1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone, 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette, and 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: I am the tech editor at how stuff works dot com. 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Sitting across from me, as he always does on the 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: occasions on which I podcast, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Hey there, so, um, the number seven, the number seven, 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: number seven. Don't jump ahead, We've got listener mail to 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: deal with. Okay, let's do that. Then this listener mail 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: comes from Ted. Ted says, so when are we getting 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: the low down on Windows seven? As a user, I'm 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: loving the new OS is as better OS than XP 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and Vista, and finally starts to rub off the black 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: eye for MS. So when are you going to tackle 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. M thanks and chat later, Ted, Well, 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: we don't tend to tackle elephants. They're very large. Yes, 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: they tend to charge. Yes, we can take away their 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: credit cards. We will. Someone left a footprint in the 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: butter we will. Um. We will, however, tackle Windows seven. Yeah. 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: I should point out too that this is a little 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: difficult for us, simply because UM, as a group that 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: typically does not do product reviews. UM, we don't have 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: a review copy of Windows seven in the house, although 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: both of us have had the chance to mess around 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: with the preview version that Microsoft released last year. We 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: have a test machine that we use for stuff like 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: that and lenox um, so you know, in a way, 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: we have had the chance to mess with it some, 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: but we haven't had a chance to really mess with 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: the full version. Yeah, and part of that is because 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: the office as a whole has not moved Windows seven, 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: so we don't have access to it on our work machines, 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: and neither Chris nor I have purchased a computer since 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Windows seven went gold and uh, and I'm using a 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Mac at home. So I mean, we just haven't had 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: a chance to use it in our personal lives really, 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: but there's been a lot out about it, so we 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: can talk about it. Uh. First of all, would you 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: say that, when based upon what you've read and the 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: limited experience you've had, that Windows seven is a huge 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: jump over Windows Vista. Well, in doing some research for it, 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to see what other people were saying, because 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: you know, even frankly even if it was we were 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: they were asking us just about our own experience. I 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: would still want to see UH sort of temper that 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: with some of the other reviews that I've read online 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: and get a feel for what other bloggers and professionals 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: were saying about it too. Um. Based on based on that, 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I would say that people in general seem to agree 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: that UH Windows seven is a very good interface. Yes, um. 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: I even talked with with our I T professional who's 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: in the office. Um. He said in his opinion that 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Window seven is the second best OS that Microsoft has 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: ever released. You know, I didn't ask, I was afraid 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: to ask. But program Well, the problem is too that 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: people Vista still has a very you know, as to 58 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: point out, sort of a black eye, although you know 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: by now people don't complain about it nearly as often 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: as they used to. Well, it's because it's been some 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: time and upgrade it. Well yeah, but it's still not 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I think the bells and whistles, plus a lot of 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the machines on which people were trying to install it 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: at first, you know, may not have been able to 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: handle it, whereas newer computers with it UH pre installed 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: are ready and you know, it wasn't such a big 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: deal for people who were on Vista, But most people 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I've seen who have upgraded to Windows seven seemed to 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: really like it. I think for people who's stuck with 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: the Vista platform and who continued to patch it and 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: updated as they became available, probably have come around to 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: to thinking that Vista is not really as bad as 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: everyone was making it out to be. Now. When it launched, 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: it certainly didn't have the support or the the versatility 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: that people expected, particularly when it came to things like 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: driver issues, drivers for things like video cards and sound cards, 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: and and just peripherals. Yeah, people were having problems with 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: their computers crashing. They would have all these peripherals that 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: worked perfectly when their machine was running Windows XP, but 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: when they upgrade Windows Vista, suddenly they would get all 81 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: these notifications that things weren't working correctly or the or 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the computer would crash. Um. And as we said, you know, eventually, 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: over time, Microsoft was able to address a lot of 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: these problems through patches, but the damage had already been done. 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: That that the early perception was just that Vista was 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: not a strong operating system and that it had too 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: much stuff stripped out of it during the development process, 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: which is true. There were quite a few features that 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: were supposed to be Windows Vista that ended up being 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: pulled before it went gold, and so that has prompted 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: some folks to say that Windows seven is really what 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: Vista should have been the whole time. Well, I will 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: give you some more evidence that people like Windows seven. Um. 94 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Then Windows Vista took about a year to get ten 95 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: percent of the market. Uh, Windows seven did that in 96 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: three months. Apparently so many people were waiting for uh 97 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: an upbring system that wasn't Vista, that they were very 98 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: willing to jump from XP directly to seven. Yeah. Well 99 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: this this was this is based on an article I 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: read in All Things d by John Paskowski. And um, 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: you know, basically, one in ten computers as of the 102 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: end of January, we're using uh Windows seven. Um. And 103 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, another article I read and 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: seen it um said that Microsoft is, as a result 105 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: of the success of Window seven, enjoying record profits. Um. However, 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: that's for people who are actually buying the operating system 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: from Microsoft. So people are upgrading to Windows seven, but 108 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily buying new machines with Windows seven. On 109 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: it because PC manufacturers with Windows seven are not doing 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: as well. Um. I think that's a result of the economy. 111 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: Of course, a PC, a brand new PC is much 112 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: more expensive than a copy of an operating system, and 113 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people might be looking at netbooks, which 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: some netbooks do run Windows seven, kind of stripped down 115 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: version of Windows seven. It's not the same one that 116 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you're going to find on a fully fledged desktop. But 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you can also find netbooks on running the Linux operating system, 118 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: and um, pretty soon you will see some running the 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Google Chrome OS. But that that means that often the 120 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Linux ones tend to be priced lower than the Windows ones. 121 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Not by a whole lot, but every little bit tends 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: to help. So I think a lot of people just 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: and have have purchased Linux machines instead of Windows machines 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to the netbook market, although some of 125 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: those same people end up being dissatisfied when they realized 126 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: that the Linux machine doesn't do everything they expected it 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: to do. It's no fault of Linux, really, it's more 128 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: of not a lack of education on the part of 129 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: the consumer where they just think, oh, this is a computer, 130 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: that means that this can do blah blah blah, And 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: that's not always the case. It is often very dependent 132 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: upon the operating system, the processor, the memory of the computer. 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff definitely takes a place apart 134 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and what the computer can and cannot do. But I 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: think in the average consumer's mind they just think computer. 136 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: That means I can do this, um, and when they 137 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: get something that can't do that, they get frustrated and 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: then go and return it. But at anyway, yes, it's 139 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: true the Windows seven machines that are on the market 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: now just haven't been moving very quickly. But again, the 141 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: the economy bright plays a very large factor in that, 142 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: and it's generally if you're if you're interested in and purchasing. 143 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: So now I mean, I'm sorry, Window seven. Uh, there 144 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: are there. It seems like there was some confusion at 145 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the very beginning of what versions we're going to come out. Well, yeah, 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: before before it launched, we had heard that there were 147 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: going to be six versions. Yeah, and I think there 148 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I think there still are. It's just that o M, 149 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: which is original Equipment manufacturer. They you know, they come 150 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: pre installed on systems like netbooks and other computers. Right, 151 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: that would be like like the netbook would be a 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: stripped down version, like I said, but you could get 153 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Windows seven Premium, or or Windows seven Ultimate or Windows 154 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: seven Professional. I think are those those are the main 155 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: three for if you were if you're looking at upgrading 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: a desktop, and I think in most cases, Windows seven 157 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: Professional would be more than what most people would need. 158 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't seem I don't see a whole lot of 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: value to Windows seven Ultimate for the average user. I mean, 160 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: for for real power users maybe, but for most people 161 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: myself included, I include myself in this group. I don't 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: see any need to go beyond Windows seven Professional. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 163 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the Home Premium is the most stripped down of of 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: the three, and it's um and it lacks a lot 165 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: of the features. It's basically just the rudimentary version, you know, 166 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: for the average computer. I guess um it doesn't have 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the XP mode, which that's that's uh, one of those 168 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: modes that a lot of businesses really essentially demanded. I think. 169 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: I think the reason why that mode is in there 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: is that's Microsoft's nod to corporate the corporate world. Because 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the XP is one of those proven platforms and a 172 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of businesses still use XP. I can think of 173 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: one that's very close to us right now that still 174 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: uses the XP operating system run many of its computers, 175 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: all of them. We have a few, uh, we have 176 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: a few Mac based computers. There are a couple of 177 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: people with the newer laptops who have Vista. Really. Oh 178 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: and then we also have a one Linux machine. Yeah 179 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: that's true, probably more than more than one, but one 180 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: that went actually so um. But at any rate, yes, 181 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: we we mainly depend upon Windows XP machines. And there 182 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of companies out there that have proprietary 183 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: software it was specifically designed with Windows XP in mind. Now, 184 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: these are these are companies. Sometimes they have hundreds of employees, 185 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: each of whom has a computer. That's big business. So 186 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: if Microsoft had not built in some form of XP 187 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: compatibility where you could run in XP mode, uh, they 188 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: might have risked dis you completely counting out that whole 189 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: section of the market. But by building in the XP capability, 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: you allow these these companies to come in and say, well, 191 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: we should get we should upgrade two Windows seven. Uh 192 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: that I'll make most of our processes go more smoothly. 193 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: And for the stuff that is proprietary and legacy, that 194 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: has to run XP. We still have XP modes that 195 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: we can still run it now. Um. Yeah, that that's 196 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the case too, especially for out of large companies, at 197 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: least in my experience, that they get to supporting a 198 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: particular OS, they've got it, they've got it downpad. If 199 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: they need to push out an update system, why they 200 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: can do that without having to worry about who's on what. 201 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Um And some you know, especially very very large companies, 202 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: are really slow to migrate. UM. I worked for one 203 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: company a few years ago where they were actually two 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: os is behind the current just because they had everything. 205 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: It all worked, and I kind of uh, I mean 206 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: said said is that sort of seems in a way, 207 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: especially if you love the you know, seeing what's on 208 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: the cutting edge, you know, you have to appreciate that. 209 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: Put your shoe feet in the shoes of you know, 210 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: the person you have to manage all that and go 211 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: you know what, if it just works right, why why 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: make the risk of moving to a new operating system 213 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: that's both expensive and not guaranteed to work. Yeah, those 214 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: are two big risks there. And uh yeah, so it 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: makes sense from a corporate perspective, But going back to consumers, UM, 216 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: that's a lot easier because then you're just dealing with 217 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: with one machine. You know, a handful of machines in 218 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: your house. Yeah, you're not having to convince some some 219 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: person in charge of the entire uh whatever you wanna 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: call it, I T department, whatever, whatever particular department oversees 221 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the the computer purchases for your company. Uh, you don't 222 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: have to sit there and think about that. On a 223 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: scale of this is gonna affect two machines or whatever, 224 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: it's usually going to be two or three at most. Um. 225 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: There's some some nice elements to Windows seven that make 226 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: it attractive to consumers, one of which is that Windows 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: seven was optimized for machines that have multi core processors. Yes, 228 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: now that's something that Windows XP does not have. You 229 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: don't it's not, Um, it's not optimized in that way. 230 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: So that means that if you have a machine with 231 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: a multi core processor, uh, the Windows seven operating system 232 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: is built in such a way that it will use 233 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: that to the best of its ability. And that uh, 234 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: just because you have a multi core processor doesn't mean 235 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna run a particular program better than another computer. 236 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: It has to be the program has to be designed 237 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: to run on a multi court processor. Yes, it does, 238 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and in this case with Window seven, that means that 239 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: you get things like faster load time. It shuts down 240 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: faster than Vista. Um, and it does have a really 241 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: pretty snappy booting and shutting down sequence compared to uh 242 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: TO specifically compared to Vista. Also compared to my Windows 243 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: X being machine which now approximately takes four days to 244 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: shut down. Yeah. Yeah, I find that the longer you 245 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: use a machine, the more digital crud accumulates, and it's 246 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: bits and bites. Yes. Um, So there are all other 247 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: things that are added into Windows seven. They're the home 248 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: Groups Oh yes, which is a home Groups is a 249 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: a product from from Microsoft that's supposed to make it 250 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: easier to set up a home network. Um. Home networks 251 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: are really not that difficult to set up, but it 252 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: can be a little intimidating for someone who is not 253 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: used to working with computer networks. Well, home Groups takes 254 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot of that out of the equation. It does 255 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the thinking for you. There is one 256 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: major downside to home Groups. Yeah, it works with Windows 257 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: seven machines and yeah, so if you are running multiple 258 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: computers on different operating systems, the home Groups option isn't necessary, 259 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: isn't gonna necessarily work for every machine in your house. 260 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: It'll work for anything that's running the Windows seven and 261 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: you can still network the computers. It's not like it 262 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: prevents you from networking. It's just that the the tool 263 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: itself won't be applicable in that case. Um. It's uh. Also, 264 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: it's also better designed with as to work with direct 265 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: x ten UM standards, which is that's mostly used in gaming, 266 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: it's used for video cards and sound cards and uh. Again, 267 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: one of the problems with Vista was that whole driver issue. 268 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: The Microsoft really took a good look at that when 269 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: they were designing Windows seven to try and avoid as 270 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: much of that as possible. Sometimes it's impossible to avoid 271 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: that because you know, unlike Apple, Microsoft is not in 272 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: the business of designing computers from scratch. They don't they 273 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: don't build every single element that goes into a computer. 274 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: They're designing an operating system. That's it. It's it's the 275 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: platform that exists between the hardware and all the applications 276 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: you want to run. Um. They're not the ones building 277 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: the video cards, sound cards, all that kind of stuff, 278 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: and they don't dictate what goes into a computer they 279 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: have you know, they might work with developers to make 280 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: sure it works properly, but they don't. They don't demand 281 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: that you use a specific video card or sound card, 282 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: whereas a different there's another company that's taking a very 283 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: different approach. Yes, you're you're thinking of Apple Cane, And 284 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that one approach is better or worse 285 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: than the other, by the way. No, Actually they both 286 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: have their good points and their bad points. Um. You 287 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: know there's that diversity that the diversity of uh, you know, 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: the PC, the traditional you know, Windows Slash Linux, not 289 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: a Mac PC that has you know, you can you 290 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: can build your own you know, put your own case together, 291 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: throw whatever graphics card you want to in there with 292 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: a motherboard and you know, put it, put all the 293 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: guts together. The thing is, you know, while that it 294 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: can be inexpensive, very inexpensive. You have to get all 295 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the drivers for that. Sometimes they don't support it. For example, 296 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: actually on our test machine here's an example. Um I 297 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: install installed the newest version of a Buntu Linux and 298 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Windows seven the test release we got last year, neither 299 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: of which had a driver for the sound card on 300 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: that um sound does not work on that machine gradually updating. 301 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Actually the one who did recognize the sound card and 302 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: I'd given up trying. I had, as of this podcast, 303 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: tried the Windows seven to see if they've actually uh 304 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: done this is this is an old Dell machine actually 305 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: probably a couple of years old now, um, and uh, 306 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, you figure it was recent enough where they 307 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: would do it, but they had, you know, they just 308 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: hadn't gotten around to releasing the driver as part of 309 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: the main software. And of course they're a third party 310 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: people who will write, especially with the Linux community. They 311 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: are all sorts of developers who are working with that UM, 312 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: who may or may not be interested in putting something together. UM, 313 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: but from Microsoft. In a lot of cases, you know, 314 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: it's either from them or one of the major like 315 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: the sound card manufacturer, who's interested in in writing those drivers. Right. 316 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: And And to get back to the argument of of 317 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: controlling everything versus versus just taking a hands off approach. UM. 318 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: One of the pros of the hands off approaches that 319 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: you get machines in a variety of price ranges, so 320 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: you could buy a computer running the same operating system. 321 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: You can look at a selection of them, all running 322 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: Windows seven the same version of Windows seven at different 323 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: price points and different capabilities, and you're gonna see that, 324 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, a very wide range. You might see something 325 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: that around the four dollar level, and there may be 326 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: others that are two thousand or more depending upon the specs. Uh. 327 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: The other approach, the Apple approach, you're going to have 328 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: fewer choices. You're gonna it's usually a tiered choice and 329 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: you may have three or four options, but it's uh, 330 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: you're not going to find a cheaper version of the 331 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: same kind of machine from someone else. It's all through 332 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: one company. But on the flip side of that, it's 333 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: pretty much guaranteed to all work together because it was 334 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: designed that way. Yeah. So because the developer of the 335 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: operating system is also the manufacturer of Hartwell their contract 336 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the manufacturer of the hardware. So it's one of these 337 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: five chips, it's one of these seven hard drives. You know, 338 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: we're pretty much sure that we have a driver for that. 339 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: So back to Windows seven. Yeah, one of the cool 340 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: features is the home media stuff, which it incorporates very well. 341 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: So if you wanted to use your computer as a 342 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: media PC, um whether or that means to you just 343 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: watching media on your PC directly or even networking it 344 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: with your television. UH so hooking your your PC up 345 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: to your TV so that your PC becomes kind of 346 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: a a media server. Really, the Window seven comes with 347 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: that capability built in. UM, if you I think it's 348 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Premium has it. I know the 349 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: professional does. But if you if you just run the software, 350 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: you can do things like connect kind of like a DVR. 351 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: You can pull content from the web and uh and 352 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: stream it to your television. UM. It does require that 353 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: you hook your computer up to your TV, which is 354 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: a step that some people find intimidating. It's getting easier 355 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: and easier, especially when you find a machine that has 356 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: h d M I boorts and all you really need 357 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 1: is an HDMI cable and the right software and then 358 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: you're ready to go. UM it's getting so easy now 359 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that I think that the average consumer could very easily 360 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: set up a media PC and his or her own 361 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: home with uh, you know, just just by buying the 362 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: right machine. Back in the day, it meant that you 363 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: had to know your way around different codex and uh, 364 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: different networking solutions. UM it's much easier now. So that's 365 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: one I mean that and that we we started to 366 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: see that in Windows Vista. They incorporate a lot of 367 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: the home media stuff and Windows Vista. But again it 368 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: just when upon launch was not the most stable or 369 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: reliable service. Yeah. Yeah, um, and the interface has changed 370 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: pretty substantially too. I mean there are there are a 371 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: lot of benefits to using Windows seven over some of 372 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the earlier versions. One of the things, as a person 373 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: who's probably been using a lot of guests, Yeah, I've 374 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: been using a Mac longer than I have Windows, although 375 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: I've used both for many many years now. Um, I 376 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: really like the fact that UH, as opposed to the 377 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: XP machine that I use every day, Windows seven basically 378 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: has one instance of a particular program in the task bar. Now, 379 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: when you mouse over that, you can see a preview 380 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: of all the different UH windows that you have open 381 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: in that. So if you have for for word documents open, 382 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: it's basically one instance of word and you can you know, 383 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: easily find it just by mousing over that. And which 384 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, you know, I've had I've had laptops 385 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: with small screens and when you have multiple documents open 386 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: and they're they're all you can you can barely tell 387 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: what it is at the bottom that always frustrates. Yeah, 388 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: but this is far more elegant and a lot more streamlined, 389 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: although you know, there is that trade off when you 390 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: can see which what is in you know the name 391 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: of whatever it is that you have opened, and you 392 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: can go, okay, well that's the one I want to 393 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: click on, just when it gets so out of hand 394 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: on some of the earlier versions. But I really, I 395 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: really like that. That's one of those things that I 396 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: just found easy and it's um, you know, just using 397 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: the operating system on a day to day basis, you know, 398 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: editing articles, doing research podcasts and things like that. UM, 399 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: I've noticed that, you know, it's easier to find preferences. UH, 400 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: different menus are make make a lot more sense to 401 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: me than they did in earlier versions. So it's obvious 402 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: that they've taken a lot of user interface UM information 403 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: research into uh, into the design process of trying to 404 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: come up with this. And I also should point out 405 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: too that on the test machine that we've tried Office 406 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: which is UM, actually there I think a final release 407 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: candidate as of the recording of this, so that it's 408 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: probably going to hit the shelves before too awfully long, um, 409 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: but it also shows a lot of maturity since the 410 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: previous version of Office. I know this was the Windows 411 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: seven thing, but the two of them worked together very 412 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: very well. And uh, I'm impressed by the new Office 413 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: as well. And the less said about Office two thousand seven, 414 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the better. Yeah, I kind of um might have wanted 415 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: to skip that, although the uh, there are some things 416 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: they changed. That little bubble in the upper left window. 417 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: If You've used Office two thousand seven, you know what 418 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, that's gone away. They have a file 419 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: menu over there now in Office, which makes it it's 420 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: it actually makes a little sense. It's actually more intuitive, 421 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, builds on what was before. I don't get 422 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: the the nest the feeling of necessity to when you, 423 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: whenever you come out with a new version to totally 424 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: change the user interface that you have built up over 425 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the past versions, unless it was just so unwieldy that 426 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: it just didn't make sense to keep on building on 427 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: that and just you want to start over. Uh. So 428 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: many programs do that, where they'll the next version will 429 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: be a complete change, and it means that you have 430 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: to take the time to learn the system that you 431 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: theoretically should already know. Um, I hate that this is 432 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: a personal pet peeve, but I was gonna also mention 433 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Radar or tech Radar, which is a UK site, did 434 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: a test running Windows seven. Actually they had this was 435 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: back in the beta days, so it was a Windows 436 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: seven beta versus Windows Vista versus XP okay benchmark, Yeah, 437 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: bitchmarking test between the three and discovered that Windows seven 438 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: was the best whenever you were copying several files up 439 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: to a megabyton size or up to a gigabye, it's 440 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: faster than then both XP and Windows Vista. It was 441 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: also faster for network copying files of up to a 442 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: gigabyt and size, it was faster than than together to However, um, interestingly, uh, 443 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: the the if you were to network copy one megabyte files, 444 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: XP was actually faster. That happens. I mean they found 445 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: that with macOS ten snow Leopard as well. Um, there 446 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: are certain things that it does better, and there are 447 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: certain things the previous virsion of the Osterich I think 448 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. Well, what's interesting is in their 449 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: benchmark tests, under all the benchmarks that they did, Windows 450 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: Vista performed, Uh didn't. It was never first ever in 451 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: any of the benchmarks. Uh. That didn't mean they came 452 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: in last every time, but they were never first. It 453 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: was either XP or Windows seven, which means that Vista 454 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't the best at anything. That's kind of sad. Um. 455 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: And granted this was the beta, so it wasn't the 456 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: same as the necessarily the same program that that came 457 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: out available to everybody. Uh. I actually have a word 458 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: to say about that if you're somebody like if you're 459 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: somebody like us who downloaded uh, the free version of 460 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: the operating system, which I gotta say, Uh, excellent move 461 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: on Microsoft's part to give people an opportunity. It's for 462 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: marketing reasons and for um, for consumers to actually have 463 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get their hands on an early version 464 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: of the operating system. It was the best move Microsoft 465 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: could make considering the pr they had to be dealing 466 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: with with. But you can also you can also upgrade 467 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: uh your operating system online too, which is an also 468 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: a good move where you want to necessarily buy the disc. 469 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: But if you did, excuse me, download a a copy 470 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: of that early preview release, there's something you need to know, 471 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: at least depending on when you listen to this. Otherwise, 472 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: if it's afterwards, you're gonna go, why is my computer 473 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: shutting down? Well, Microsoft is going to shut your computer down. Um, 474 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: let's see I misplaced the date on that. It's gonna 475 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: be like this is gonna be like a inspector gadget 476 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: thing where after thirty seconds the message explodes. Okay, so yeah, 477 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: if you're using the Windows seven preview, uh, you have 478 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: to upgrade to the full version. A full version. I 479 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: assume it doesn't necessarily matter which one for March one, 480 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: because at that point Microsoft is going to let you 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: use the operating system for two hours, and then your 482 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: computer will shut down and it will not save your work. 483 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: And if you try to open it up again, Microsoft 484 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: will send Clippy out after you, and then Clippy will 485 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: ask you over and over, I see you're trying to 486 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: operate a defunct operating system. Can I help? Well, actually, 487 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a little bit more serious than that. 488 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: They're going to change. You won't be able to have 489 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: custom wallpaper anymore. It will be a solid black background 490 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: with a persistent message I'm actually quoting from the Microsoft side, 491 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: with a persistent message on your desktop. You'll also get 492 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: periodic notifications that Windows isn't genuine. That means your PC 493 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: may no longer be able to obtain optional updates or 494 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: downloads require in genuine Windows validation. I think if they 495 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: have I think if they have Clippy deliver that message, 496 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: it would be more effective. Yes, exactly, I guarantee it 497 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: would be more effective. I mean, granted, if your operating 498 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: system is no longer working and it's telling you why 499 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: it's no longer working, that should be effective enough. If 500 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Clippy is doing it, Yeah, it just adds a little 501 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: expediency to the matter in my opinion. Well, I am 502 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: sure that there are people working on ways to keep 503 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the preview release going. Um, those are are probably who 504 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: I say probably, I mean most definitely not legal. Um, 505 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: not that I'm sure that they're gonna necessarily know that 506 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: you're doing it, but I wouldn't recommend it anyway. Um, Yeah, 507 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: I think it's ah and I guess in somemation, since 508 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: we're sort of winding down at this point, I think 509 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: it's a good release. Um, I've been very impressed with it. 510 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: It has been you know, I haven't done any scientific 511 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: benchmarking or anything like that, but it's been uh, it's 512 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: been faster, it's been smoother, um, and I do like 513 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: it better than next pum on four sly as of 514 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: March one, I will probably not be able to trust it, 515 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, get a whole blog post written and then 516 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: suddenly it will shut down without saving my work, and 517 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: that would be kind of a bummer. Yeah, but I do, 518 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: but I do like it quite. It's nice. Um, it'll 519 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: be um and of course before we we sign off 520 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: and we should wrap up here. But currently there are 521 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: now rumors that Windows eight is already in the uh 522 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: not not just in development, because that's not a surprise 523 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: when a when an operating system hits the market, you 524 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: can get you can bet that the company has been 525 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: working on the successor to that operating system already before 526 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: it even hits the store shelves. But the rumor now 527 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: is that we may see Windows eight before the end 528 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: of two thousand eleven. Just not really that shocking. I mean, 529 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: all Bring systems used to come out every couple of years. 530 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: It's just it feels like for something as Major's not 531 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: Brings system, it just feels kind of weird, like, wow, 532 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: you don't even get two years out of it. But 533 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's because everyone's been using XP for so long 534 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: and they just skipped this to and now they're thinking, 535 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: oh and not brings system is supposed to last X 536 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: number of years. Yeah, well I think uh, I think too. 537 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: It sort of benefits tech companies to continue that go 538 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: go go cycle because you know, if they could keep 539 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: people buying a hundred and release for their operating system 540 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: every two to three years, you know that that keeps 541 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: the cycle up, It makes them seem like they're more innovative. 542 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Got to pay those shareholders. Yeah, and that I mean, 543 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: it's it's like people buying you know, new phones or 544 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: new MP three players or whatever. You know, it's less 545 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: than two years stocks. Yeah, I'm not touching that, but 546 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: why that's why I replace them, right, Okay, then all right, 547 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: well that wraps up this discussion on Windows seven. Keep 548 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: keep your ears tuned to tech stuff. 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