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Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to do a very quick

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Speaker 1: an old game that we played back in January. Dan,

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Speaker 1: there is a brilliant Twitter account called message board Geniuses.

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Speaker 1: They've done a marvelous job. We are borrowing some of

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Speaker 1: veracity of some of these claims, if you will. Was

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Speaker 1: if it was. Let's get into news, the breaking news

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Speaker 1: Dan has a great job, great interviewer.

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Speaker 2: Interviewer has dipped his toe, sometimes successfully, sometimes less than

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Speaker 2: picture thing. They were not competitive with Tennessee, or excuse me,

436
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Speaker 2: Tennessee was not competitive with Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I think the.

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Speaker 2: Viewpoint is generally TCU is a cute story which I

439
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: don't fully agree with, and will lose to somebody these

440
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: next few weeks. And they're not being taken seriously, whether

441
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: it's because of their propensity to needing to come back

442
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: against decent teams and not making statements against those teams

443
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 2: every week, or the defense is being doubted now that

444
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: the health is an issue for TCU, I get. I

445
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: think that's all reasonable, and I think it's TCU is

446
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: a prime example of do not feel disrespected because you

447
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: are not ranked in the top four. You have a

448
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: new coach who has completely turned things around immediately, and

449
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: it's all gravy wherever you end up. TCU is going

450
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: from being a disaster, a catastrophic team under Gary Patterson

451
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: and that staff that he handpicked, to a ten plus

452
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: win team. That's incredible. And any anything else like that

453
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: to me is like when you say, like, oh, are

454
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: you scared?

455
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Are you scared?

456
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: It's not a matter of being scared. It's a matter

457
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: of this team hasn't been built yet. TCU hasn't been built,

458
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: Oregon hasn't been built yet. Under first year coaches, it

459
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: should just be viewed as exciting to see that this

460
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: is what is happening with you know, Max Duggan who

461
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: didn't win the starting job and Bonix who came in

462
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: after a really up and down career at Auburn and

463
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: gets this fresh start, Like we should appreciate excellence and

464
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: not put excellence into the playoff jar just because we can.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's my viewpoint on it. Tennessee is probably

466
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: in a decent position given the rest of their schedule,

467
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: given that they don't have to face the SEC West

468
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: champion again, LSU once again, who seems to have only

469
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: gotten better since they played but head to head.

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Speaker 1: It's a good place to be. It's a good see

471
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: resume place to be. It's absolutely good place to be.

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Speaker 1: One final point, TCU, and I want people to write

473
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Speaker 1: in sunemail dot com, you know, let us let us

474
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: know your thoughts on this whole issue of resume and

475
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: where things should or shouldn't rank out TCU. I don't

476
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: care where they're ranked in the new version of the

477
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff Poll. By the time all is said

478
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: and done, if TCU wins out, they'll have wins on

479
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: the road over Baylor and Texas, over SMU, which is

480
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: going to be a bowl team. Yeah, they also will

481
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: have wins over other bowl teams that I presume we'll

482
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: get there. If they're not there already. Oklahoma I think

483
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: will get the six wins, probably this weekend. Kansas could

484
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: finish with eight wins. Who knows. Kansas State another possible

485
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: eight win team. Oklahoma States already qualified for a ball.

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00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with them. They're kind

487
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: of a mess around Bencer Sanders And I mean, it's

488
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: not a great situation. It's still water, but it's like

489
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: seven bowl teams here, potential Bowl teams that they would

490
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: have beaten. Wasn't always the prettiest, but that's a pretty

491
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: strong resume. That's a pretty strong resume. So if they

492
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: win out, it's hard to keep them out of the playoff.

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00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: Certainly they would get a crack at somebody in the

494
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: Big twelve championship game. But I think they're in a

495
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: prime position. All they have to do is keep winning.

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00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: The good news is we get to say the same

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00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: thing we say every year in early November. Tie.

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00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: It generally sorts itself out. Generally, the gods above governing

499
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: over college football weirdness, they get going with the ooh,

500
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: what about if this team loses unexpectedly? Oh what if

501
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: this team upsets this team unexpectedly? And it all sort

502
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: of sorts itself out, and that's the good news. I

503
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: hope we see they say this every year as few

504
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: if any reruns as humanly possible. That's my goal for

505
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: the College wall playoff, great football, great stories, fewest reruns possible.

506
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Dan, can you play that old AOL connection sound please?

507
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: You know I've gone to do you remember when you

508
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: try to sign on and it didn't get to that

509
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: point hang or it would not do anything at all.

510
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: I remember, we've actually done a show about nineties internet things.

511
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: The greatest feeling you can have as a youth in

512
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: I don't know nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety six, nineteen

513
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: ninety eight who had AOL The greatest feeling is you

514
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: sign on, you get online, you get.

515
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: The welcome, you've got mail.

516
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Whatever, and there is a message there waiting for you

517
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: from a crush. You sign onto AOL instant messenger and

518
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: you get a message from a crush, or just you're

519
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: sitting there and all of a sudden.

520
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: You hear that door open. Yeah, and there's that crush

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: like is this gonna be the day? And I think

522
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of overlap there with college football fandom

523
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: of is this gonna be the day man, what a memory.

524
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I yeah, as you bring that up now, I think

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00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: of away messages, of course, think of my own personal

526
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: evolution from song lyrics, yeah, uh huh on the away

527
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: message all the way through to like doing work, you know,

528
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: like this maturation of whatever, trying to get noticed, all

529
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: the way through to not really giving a damn.

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00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: There is You can evolve from the song lyrics to

531
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: just like some people dot dot dot, you like what

532
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: does he mean?

533
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: What does she mean?

534
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: And I think that's I still I think that's a

535
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: very good segue to college football fandom online in the

536
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: Ear of Our Lord twenty twenty two. So we have

537
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: selected some messageboard geniuses posts, generally from you know, the

538
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven Rivals Whoever message boards, a lot

539
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: of which happen during or after a game that melts

540
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: the brains of a team's fans. Should we go neither

541
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: are some recent ones from the Twitter feed and from

542
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: the top twenty five of October. I like to check in.

543
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: We can watch these games, we can pour over stats,

544
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: we can rewatch these games and form our own opinions,

545
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: but we are never going to be in the marrow

546
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: of these programs like fans are, so I think this

547
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: is important to sort of get inside the brains of

548
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: people who are so invested in these teams.

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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Absolutely so. I want to I

550
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out again to the account that, yes,

551
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: that collects all of these It is bored Geniuses b O,

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00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: A r D Geniuses. It works on two levels. It's great. Well,

553
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: the other board genius bought Twitter, but this is true.

554
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: This is the better account. Bored Geniuses on Twitter. Message

555
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: board geniuses dot com is the website. They do a

556
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: phenomenal job. They've got a podcast, all sorts of stuff

557
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: out there. Go and check them out. We're very much

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00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: borrowing the content that they put forth, and we are

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00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're borrowing content themselves of course, of course,

560
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: but we appreciate the hard work that they put in here.

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00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Yes A plus attribution, Ty, thank you. Let's get to

562
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: our first post, Dan, you want to read it off?

563
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I want to tinfoil hat on.

564
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: You can choose. This is your choice. Do you want Texas,

565
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: do you want Auburn? Do you want Texas A and

566
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: M or do you want Tennessee?

567
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I need Texas A and M.

568
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: Man Okay, So tech A and M is a rich

569
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: treasure trove. This is from text Aggs, the notable text

570
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: A and M message board. Go fundme for Hugh Freeze

571
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: plus hookers equals sec greatness. I think we can get

572
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: him cheap. Just keep some hookers on the side. It's

573
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: the easiest and most financially responsible option.

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00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: TIE.

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00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: You're now wearing your tinfoil hat, so it depends on

576
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: how you categorize sex workers.

577
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: TIE. But it doesn't.

578
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Seem like this is a long term because I want

579
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: to take all these seriously. I want to give them

580
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: the validity that college football fandom demands. Do you think

581
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: it's possible that one if text A and M gets

582
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: rid of Jimbo Fisher, that Hugh Freeze could come in

583
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 2: And do you think a key to his success is

584
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: the ability to do consistent business with sex workers, as

585
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: has been the accusation with regards to massage parlors and

586
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: burner phones during his time at Ole Miss Do you

587
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: think that is a viable path forward for Texas A

588
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: and M to take the next step.

589
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, so the definition

590
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: of viable is perhaps a little bit different than if

591
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: I take this thing off. But what what I what

592
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate by the poster here is the fact that

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00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: he or she is willing to go to extreme measures,

594
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: of course, to seal the deal here, right Like, they

595
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: see what they want. They suspect, based on previous behavior,

596
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that this is something that Hugh Freeze might find attractive

597
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: right in the college station, once he's there, help him succeed.

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00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And now they're putting pen to paper, They're saying,

599
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: we need to we need to make this happen. So

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00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I guess on some level I sort of admire the creativity. Still,

601
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, still don't know if it's a great PR

602
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: News story though, you know, like these things have a

603
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: way of getting out, especially if things don't go well.

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00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: If you free starts three and six the way Jimbo

605
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Fisher has started this season. Yeah, and then there is

606
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of that seeded or under belly to the agreement.

607
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: You could see that ultimately being something that ends up

608
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter, that ends up taking him down and sends

609
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: him back to an independent or group of five school.

610
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: See what I would want from this situation. If Hugh

611
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Freeze is enthusiastic about working at texts A and M

612
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: which I have no idea.

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00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: If that's the case, if he's able to mount an offense,

614
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: which it seems that that's something he's been successful doing,

615
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: is developing offenses wherever he goes, I would my priority

616
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: here would be to see to it that the agreement

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00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: with said sex workers results in all sorts of really

618
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: good life benefits for them, like I want them on

619
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: the text A and M payroll in no show positions. Essentially,

620
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: I want health insurance, I want dental I want this

621
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: to be a fully unofficial, official role that just sort

622
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: of gets things down on paper so there's no confusion,

623
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: there's no That's who I'm most concerned about in this transaction.

624
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't really care about Hugh Freeze in this transaction.

625
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: If he's able to get things going for the A

626
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: and M offense and the A and M program and

627
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: recruiting and everything like that, that's terrific. I just don't

628
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: want them to be seen as pawns.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, by the way, on the point

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00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: of Hugh Freese either wanting the Auburn job or really

631
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: any job. I remember the posting from Dennis Dodd once

632
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the coaching carousel started spinning earlier and earlier every year.

633
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: It was like week two this year and he had

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00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: mentioned Hugh Freeze's name. The Hugh Freeze is almost desperate

635
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: to get another big time job, right, And so Brandon

636
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: Marcelo went out and got a quote from Hugh Freese quote,

637
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that Auburn wants me. I have no clue.

638
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: I know this. I have won everywhere I've been in

639
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: my staff and kids have turned programs around fast. It's

640
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: our culture that we instill. I know we do that,

641
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: and the proof is in the pudding. That to me

642
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: sounds like a guy who is entertaining offers. Yes, you

643
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: do not say that if you are fine with your

644
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: current circumstance. So maybe he enjoys his time at Liberty,

645
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: but he's clearly putting his name out there as somebody. Also.

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00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: I mean, Houston's not terribly far away from College Station, right,

647
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't believe so. No, I think it's within a

648
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: couple hours. You have to think that there's a big,

649
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: too huge medical supply company that can help him out

650
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: with any of his hospital bed needs should anything flare up.

651
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: Once again, one are the more ridiculous screen grabs of

652
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: all time.

653
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: College football him in the bad it was pretty perfect.

654
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: So I hope everything because I never hope that anybody's,

655
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: you know, physically unable.

656
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: So I hope that he's able to go moving forward.

657
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: But if he's not, it's probably nicer than it is

658
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: not to be near a big city that can accommodate

659
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: those needs.

660
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: I agree you, we'll go to the next one. Let's

661
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: go to the next one. Which school tie, Let's go Auburn.

662
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to go Auburn? Okay? Okay? Does Will

663
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Muschamp get a look from Auburn? Got to look for

664
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Auburn head coach. I think we'd be crazy not to

665
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: give him a hard look is from rivals in Auburn's sports.

666
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: I think we'd be crazy not to give him a

667
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: hard look. SEC head coaching experience check. Elite recruiter check.

668
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: I think both of those things are true.

669
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's recruited top players to Florida, South Carolina,

670
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: elite x's and x'es and o's coach double check. Probably true.

671
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: He's fielded some very very good defenses. Handsome triple check.

672
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: So he is better at being handsome naturally or with

673
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: efforts than he is recruiting players, coaching or coming up

674
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: with scheme for a defense. If we don't get Dion,

675
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: then give me coach boom wardamn eagle. Wow.

676
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: Which of these, if any, do you take? Exception two?

677
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Do you take?

678
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: He does have SEC head coaching experience. Do you believe

679
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: him to be a head, an elite recruiter, a great

680
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: X as an o's coach and for sure for sure

681
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: Ford sure triple check handsome?

682
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, sure? Like do you think well must

683
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: CHAMPI gets a luck? No? No, come on, man, why

684
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: why he's a name, he's a name. You know he'd

685
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: be interested. Yeah, Okay, just because you know he'd be

686
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: interested does not mean you should reach out to him, right.

687
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that if you are Auburn, you are aspiring

688
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: for something a little bit more than one William mush Champ,

689
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: who we've seen twice prior now in the SEC.

690
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and has been a defensive coordinator for Auburn, the

691
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator for Auburn.

692
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: Right, so he got familiarity with the area and all that,

693
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: and he's been over his time as a college football

694
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: coach pretty good defensive coordinator, right objectively, so yeah, but

695
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: as a head coach No, No, you don't want that.

696
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the tire fire that that would be.

697
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if after all of this strife so

698
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: Gus Malzon's gone, they decide they're going to get rid

699
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: of Brian Harson. A year and a half into this thing,

700
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: the programs in disarray, They're already going to be people

701
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: transferring left and right, maybe even more than transferred last

702
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: season r last offseason. Will mush Champ, do you think

703
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: it could be a good experiment to giving somebody more

704
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: power behind the scenes, whereas like Will must Champ is

705
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: sort of a figurehead has you know, makes defensive decisions,

706
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: is involved in recruiting, you know, shakes all the hands

707
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: of Auburn boosters who like him, and goes to the

708
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: golf outings and Bo Jackson's you know bike thing, the

709
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: Cross Alabama, all that kind of stuff, and he's literally

710
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: locked out of the offensive rooms. He's literally he literally

711
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: cannot get into the offensive meeting rooms. All of his

712
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: calls are blocked to offensive assistance. Is there is that

713
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: the new model where you bring in somebody as that

714
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of figurehead, uh to just only worry about defense,

715
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: it to never he can't even call time out s

716
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: during games. He can't even he doesn't eat, like the

717
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: channel doesn't work to his headset when Auburn is on offense,

718
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: like he just can't give input. This is the Dwight

719
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Shrewt fake wheel on Lakewall and Paul Pack.

720
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that there is a very specific role that Will

721
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: must Champ in habits that makes people behind the scenes happy,

722
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: But they decide on who to spend, you know, one

723
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: point five million dollars on to run the offense. That

724
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: it's almost like a co head situation.

725
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Man, I just you're really scraped in the bottom of

726
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: the barrel if you're going wilmust Champ. Second question is

727
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: Will must Champ triple check handsome in your mind? Sure?

728
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Sure? Is if you're talking about

729
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: a plus plus he's a handsome. He's got a friendly face. Yeah,

730
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: he's kind a friendly face. Yeah, well most of the

731
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: time when he's not yelling.

732
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: I think he would in terms of pure looks. If

733
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: Will must Champ appeared in sec territory on your bumbles,

734
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: on your hinges, I think he would probably do well.

735
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: I think there is a size to him, an acreage, right.

736
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: You see, he's a broad dude has his hair. There's

737
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: an intensity, a stealiness to him. I can't speak in

738
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: details about his face or about you know, his his vibe.

739
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just slacked you in Imasha will

740
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: must champ. Okay is this in coaching gear or is

741
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: this in civilian Okay? So it's he does. He's taking.

742
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't not look like the bigger, more successful version

743
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: of Kirby Smart like his older brother, maybe his younger

744
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: brother who runs a hedge fund. Yeah, and has a

745
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: nicer car. He doesn't not look like that guy.

746
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: He sort of looks like a beefy Tony Danza in

747
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: this shot. Yeah, he's a great hairline, got the salt

748
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: and pepper thing going on.

749
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Shirt's ironed. Look at that friendly face he's smiling in

750
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: this photo. I think you could do worse than coach Boom.

751
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm not there, like I would have to save triple

752
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: check handsome for probably others.

753
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go the next one. What are my

754
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: team options here? We can go Tennessee, we can go Texas.

755
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: Let's go Texas. All right, here we go.

756
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: This is from inside Texas. My wife and I met

757
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: one of our current commits parents. At a swingers get

758
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: together this weekend is how this post begins. Ok Their

759
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: son told them some of the recruits are worried that

760
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: that not only is Toviano spying for LSU, but that

761
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: the Hill decommitment is an elaborate scheme for Hill to

762
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: get in with the Texas recruits and start pushing them

763
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: to A and m oh.

764
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: I love this energy.

765
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: I love double double agents. The player says, their recruiting

766
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: has been so bad they are desperate level two, so

767
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: take it for what it's worth.

768
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Wow, I love this energy. This is what I am

769
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: here for. Okay, So it's Javian Toviano is a current

770
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: let's see. I'm giving you.

771
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: He's a corner who is not committed anywhere. He is

772
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: from Arlington. He's a four star, the number eight corner

773
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: in the country class of twenty twenty three finalist Michigan, Alabama, Georgia,

774
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: LSU Oklahoma.

775
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: For whatever that's worth, do you think there's a market

776
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: for this? Do you think there's an nil market or

777
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: some sort of backdoor agreement that can be brokered on

778
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: behalf of one school to infiltrate the recruiting class of

779
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: another in recruit a way.

780
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: So there have been stories about this. I think it's legit.

781
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I think it's legit that a player is so solidly

782
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: committed and enthusiastic about where they're committed to and then

783
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: they sort of figure out where a big recruiting weekend

784
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: is going to be with the school that's still recruiting them. Yeah,

785
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: and they huddle up football term with the head coach

786
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: or the you know, the head of player personnel or

787
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: whatever and be like, it wouldn't if you want to

788
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: go to Athens, if you want to go to la

789
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: if you want to go to Austin, if you want

790
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: to go to Columbus and plant a couple. We need

791
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: some receivers, plant a couple. We need some mophents and

792
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: one man. Maybe that's a successful ploy to be had.

793
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: So anything goes in recruiting tie. Oh yeah, So you

794
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: can laugh this off. I'm not saying you specifically. One

795
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: can laugh this off as silly and conspiratorial. But I'm

796
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: willing to believe. I'm always willing. I don't believe something wild.

797
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think this is far fetched at all.

798
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: What I want to know more about is why the

799
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: poster chose to add the context of we added a

800
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: swingers gathering. Right, So here's the thing with that entry

801
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: into this into this post. You don't need to say

802
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: where you met the parents. No, I'm not saying anything's

803
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: wrong with swinging tie. Obviously you can speak to that

804
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: lifestyle more than I can. I learned something, by the way,

805
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: from our good friend Adam Amin. I had no idea.

806
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: I went and got tacos with him, that the pineapple

807
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: is a symbol of swinging. That if you drive by

808
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: somebody's house and there's like a little pineapple statue or

809
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: a pineapple figurine or some sort of pineapple decor outside

810
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: of somebody's house, that's like the Crispy tree Krispy Kreme

811
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: wink and nod that something fresh is happening inside. So

812
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: you guys should put that on Extra Nuggets if.

813
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: It comes up. We absolutely will put that on our

814
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: Extra Nuggets podcast. But we go into a taco spot

815
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: and that they were selling a pineapple hat, and I

816
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh, what a cool hat, like all pastor,

817
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: and like, well, it also could send a message that

818
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: you are part of a very specific lifestyle. I just

819
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: want to know how that I understand. My guess is

820
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: you make small talk with people at a function and

821
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: you sort of get to know them because you don't

822
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: just get into it.

823
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Is my understanding. You know you want to everything's online

824
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: these days, Dan, No.

825
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: I know, but you still like, once you're in person

826
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: to me, you want to get comfortable with somebody. You

827
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: want to sort of feel out the situation for lack

828
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: of a better term. So somebody is telling somebody that

829
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: they're a gigantic Texas fan, and then that other somebody

830
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: is saying, what a coincidence, What a crazy world got

831
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: a couple connections?

832
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Tell me more. The other thing I want to know

833
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: is did this lead to further activity? This sort of

834
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: conspiratorial Texas recruiting depends on the validity of the information.

835
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: Was it more than just a social lubricant tie? No,

836
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on how accurate the info is.

837
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, you know how these message boards are.

838
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: People will do anything for a real source.

839
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: And do you segue bluntly or is it a more

840
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: gradual segue where you're like, you're talking about it. You're

841
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: talking about this corner commitment, this quarterback, and you're talking

842
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: about arch Manning, You're talking about all these guys committed

843
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: to this. I think it's a really good Texas class.

844
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: And then is it just uh so anyway, Linda, I

845
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: feel like it's a cheeky enough subject yea, the double

846
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: double agent thing that you can kind of use that

847
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: as a natural transition into So Linda, you know, right

848
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: right right? I want to hear more though from this poster.

849
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm this this was the one that had me the

850
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: most intrigued, was it?

851
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm trying to look back at the

852
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: post here. All it says is my wife and I

853
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: met one of our current commits. Parents had a swingers

854
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: get together this weekend, So it may have been after

855
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: the fact. It may have been post where everybody.

856
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: Is just chilling. I have no idea what these events are.

857
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: There are many layers to this college football onion Dan.

858
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Apparently it's an upside down pineapple outside symbol an upside

859
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: down pineapple because of pineapple. People watching along on verballers

860
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: dot com are pointing out that the pineapple is a

861
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: symbol of hospitality, So the upside down pineapple is a

862
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: symbol of.

863
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: A little extra hospital little zazz. Thank you all right,

864
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: we have Tennessee left it's do Tennessee. Let's close it out.

865
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: By the way, we got an email accusing mostly me

866
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: of shoehorning in the nicknames on Saturdays and saying that

867
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: they're corny and I'm horny and everything. And I looked

868
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: it up and I was right, by the way about

869
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: it being a super moist Saturday affecting things.

870
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: Was I not tie the rain? I mean it was

871
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: more of a weind situation, but it was not not moist.

872
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: It's moisture in the air. We can right now buy

873
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: for like fourteen dollars hornycornyanrite dot com if we want it.

874
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: If we want it, I don't want that. We can

875
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: make shirts. No, okay, you can make sure it's some

876
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: good Okay, do Tennessee, Tennessee. Speaking of which, this comes

877
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: to us from Vall Nation Beautiful. This is a bigger

878
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: one tie. I was thinking about what makes this team

879
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: really special, talking about the Valls and much stronger than

880
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: the sum of its parts. When you just look at

881
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: our level of talent, it's hard to imagine that we

882
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: would be where we are. That got me to thinking

883
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: about something Colin Cowhard said years ago. Oh boy, let

884
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: me stop you right there. Take a beat. Okay. I

885
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: think it was something about good looking players making good

886
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because of confidence, or something that got me to

887
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: thinking about how much confidence this team always seems to

888
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: play with. How good looking, not in a weird way,

889
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: our star players are. It's okay to call people good looking.

890
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything.

891
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: No, if you look at Hooker or Tillman, each one

892
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: of them has a terrific smile and would make them

893
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: super attractive to the ladies. Even if you look at

894
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: our backup quarterback Joe Milton, it's got an amazing body.

895
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: Does anyone have a picture that was posted last year

896
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: on voll Nation of him practicing without his shirt on

897
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: His chest and abs are ridiculously defined, almost like a sculpture.

898
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Even our best defensive players like Banks are objectively really

899
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: attractive guys. I think the confidence that these guys have

900
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: had their entire lives from being good looking and probably

901
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: chased by the ladies, carries over onto the field. They

902
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: are always so poised and confident. Anyway, I always thought

903
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: that Cowherd was one of the smartest guys around.

904
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Let's take another beat. Let's take a quick.

905
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: Beat, and when it comes to confidence and attractiveness. I

906
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: think he might be onto something. Obviously, we wouldn't just

907
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: go out and try to recruit a bunch of zac

908
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: Efron's I pause once more good reference point though, good

909
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: looking dude, But it's cool to see how it all

910
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: works out with a confident team. It might be something

911
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: that we use in quarterback recruiting in the future. Look

912
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: at guys like Brady and Goff. Pause again, those guys

913
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: can basically be models. And some of our best quarterbacks

914
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: like Hooker, Ange and the Iceman were really good looking guys.

915
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: So this is volos or volos however he's pronouncing his

916
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: screen name or she's pronouncing her screen name. Do you

917
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: believe in attractive privilege when it comes to college football performance?

918
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: Are the best Notre Dame and Penn State players in

919
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: recent memory because you follow those two teams closer than others,

920
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: objectively more handsome than more failed players.

921
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: I love I love the energy off this one. Of course,

922
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: this is this is That was a that was like

923
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: five hundred words long. Agree, somebody puts some thought into that,

924
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: And I doubly appreciate the fact that the poster said, Look,

925
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be weird about this,

926
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: but then seeded to get weirder and weirder as the

927
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: post went on. Yes, sort of makes that's the hallmark

928
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: of any of these great postings. My favorite. My favorite

929
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: part of that was does anybody have that picture from

930
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: Joe Milton when he was throwing shirtless? As if somebody

931
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: has a repository of images like, oh, yesh I got

932
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: it right here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, ready to go. Yeah.

933
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: So the the notion that maybe Tennessee should recruit based

934
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: on looks, it's interesting. Yeah, it's an interesting zag that

935
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: you don't often hear in the world of recruiting. We're

936
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: close to a lot of these guys who cover recruiting

937
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: much more closely than we do, whether it's Ari or

938
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Brandon or haven't heard them mention this one. Really haven't

939
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: heard this come up, and it is something Maybe you

940
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: can text Brandon now and see if it's something that

941
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: he and the twenty four to seven team have considered. Yeah,

942
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: when ranking prospects.

943
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: Mm hm, So I have some thoughts on this. I

944
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you have any any more thoughts continue

945
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: some Aaron in our comments mentioned Jimmy g Jimmy Garoppolo

946
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, sure objectively good lookings.

947
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: So my first thought is, I think most quarterbacks are

948
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: going to have like they're going to be fit right

949
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: like in terms of fitness, like you're playing high level

950
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: college football. It's kind of hard to do if you're sloppy.

951
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: All due respect to some you know pictures of who

952
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: was Mac Jones who are like, that's not what I expected.

953
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: All due respect he who doesn't have that body casts

954
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: the first still that's me. I do not have a

955
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: chiseled body. But the other.

956
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: Thing I thought about, and this is my intention is

957
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: not to be mean here. I promise you the best

958
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in the history of Tennessee football is not somebody

959
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: who I'd immediately say, look her. Peyton Manning does not

960
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: necessarily seem like he is or has ever been catwalk material. No,

961
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is a Peyton Manning beefcake

962
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: calendar to be found on eBay or something, So I

963
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: think that probably knocks the argument down a little bit.

964
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: But that said, TI, yeah, I think there is something

965
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: to attractiveness privilege. I think we generally believe attractive people

966
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: to be more successful and smarter just because of how

967
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: they look. I think that's kind of well documented that

968
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: people can ascend higher in life and in society if

969
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: they happen to be if they haven't have more symmetrical

970
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: faces and have broad shoulders, if you're a dude or whatever,

971
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: if you have the look, I think there is a

972
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: leg up to be had if you don't look like

973
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: a swamp monster. But I think you could probably look

974
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: at a number of wildly unsuccessful college football teams and

975
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: find some handsome dudes and key positions for those teams.

976
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at coaches we're talking about Will Muschak. Sure, sure,

977
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: there's a confidence that comes with it. Yeah, of course

978
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: there's a confidence that comes with it. There's a confidence

979
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: of being the star player on your high school team,

980
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: or the star player and your college team, being in

981
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: any position of prominence like that. I would imagine if

982
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: these guys went out on the town and we're looking

983
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: for a date, they wouldn't have trouble finding one just

984
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: because of their position. I don't know if there's a

985
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: whole lot of correlation to the looks department. I think

986
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: their stature on campus, their stature within their community is

987
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: what elevates them. That's what gives them the confidence, not

988
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: necessarily what they look like. Now to your point, sure

989
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: they've done scientific studies about face symmetry and all that.

990
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Maybe those folks have a leg up on society getting

991
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: to places of you know, greater earning potential whatever. Who cares. Yeah,

992
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I love the energy of this post. I mean, part

993
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: of the part of the game when it comes to

994
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: all things message board posting is writing something unique, trying

995
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: to stand out from the crowd, trying to zag when

996
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: others will zig. Well, it's it's cracking the code, right,

997
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: it's cracking is making people think on a different level.

998
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: Becoming David Epstein, becoming Malcolm Gladwell, we're like, aha, this

999
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: is the formula.

1000
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I I sort of. I I appreciate

1001
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: the fact that they want a different direction with this.

1002
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: M I don't believe there's much correlation here. I don't

1003
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: think it's so either. I don't you got a text brand,

1004
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: text brand, And before we get off this and just

1005
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: just see if it's something that they've considered in their

1006
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: war room, you know, talk to Bud, see what Bud thinks.

1007
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm probably gonna take a hard pass

1008
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: in this one.

1009
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably just a random sampling. But again,

1010
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: as somebody who always whether it's for you know, wagering purposes,

1011
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: whether if it's for just figuring out who's better or

1012
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: not better, I tend to look at things like pressure rate,

1013
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: or ability to stop big plays, or what you're able

1014
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: to generate explosive play wise. But maybe we should be

1015
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: looking for four K photos and going like, I don't know, man,

1016
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: this aid and O'Connell I think is probably better looking

1017
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: than blobby blot Like, yeah, I don't I don't think

1018
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: that's probably something that he runs.

1019
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: But right, look at his Facebook profile. I mean, just

1020
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: look at it. Look at the guy's beaming from ear

1021
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: to ear. I would argue, okay, this is just me.

1022
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt's speed and ability as a receiver, the offensive

1023
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: lines evolution, the defense getting better over the course of

1024
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: the season. Obviously, Hendon Hooker's high ceiling probably more to

1025
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 2: do with hard work and dedication and ability developed over time.

1026
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Did you mention Joe Milton with the shirt off? Had

1027
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: did not mention a shirt off? I think that's probably

1028
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: a more reliable factor to point to for Tennessee's incredible season.

1029
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: I'd be interested to get more feedback from the verballer

1030
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: hood on this one. I want to see they only

1031
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: posted this comment. I want to see what the responses

1032
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: were like. Was everybody just saying ooh interesting, didn't think

1033
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: about it? Makes you think? Just like an emoji with

1034
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: an NFM right, just want to give some approval thumbs up,

1035
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: maybe the thinking emoji.

1036
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you think about some of the recent quarterbacks

1037
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: who really tore it up in college football. And I

1038
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: don't know if to a man we're talking about that

1039
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: kind of privilege.

1040
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1041
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and call people ugly

1042
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: other than Peyton Manning. Apparently, I don't think Peyton Manning

1043
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: is ugly. I just don't think.

1044
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: Again, this is this this person's choice of words. I

1045
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: don't think he's a zach Affron. No, No, I'm saying here,

1046
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning has enough money in the bank to buy

1047
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: this show and our entire lives if he really wanted to. So, yeah,

1048
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: he's in a position that if he wants to get

1049
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: the upper hand here, I'm saying, I'm not. You cannot

1050
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: find a beefcake calendar with me, as mister March, you

1051
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: just can't. I am I'm not speaking above anybody.

1052
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm trying to objectively from afar say, well,

1053
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't.

1054
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Know who's to say, Who's who's to say? Message board

1055
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: geniuses Go and check them out. Bored Geniuses, b A

1056
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: R D Geniuses on Twitter. Yeah, that is where you

1057
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: can find these posts, among many others. Message board geniuses

1058
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: dot com. We don't know those guys, but they do

1059
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: a great job. We've tweeted at him before, We've retweeted

1060
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: some of their stuff, so hope they don't mind us

1061
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: borrowing some of their material, some of their borrowed material,

1062
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: as you pointed out rightfully before.

1063
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: But by the way, another theme that I found which

1064
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: we don't really have to get into, specifically when fans

1065
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: are sick of their coach or they're in the middle

1066
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: of a terrible performance, so they're like, we just we

1067
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: got to find a way to get rid of this guy.

1068
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Whether it's tech A and M fans with Jimbo Fisher

1069
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: or Brian Harrison and Auburn fans, or whatever. One of

1070
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: the theories that's getting floated at multiple places, or one

1071
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: of the ideas that's getting floated at multiple places is

1072
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: basically to smoke them out, like, don't fire them with

1073
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: no cause and be forced to pay a payout a buyout,

1074
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: but transfer them to do something else within the football

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Speaker 2: program that's not coaching and force their hand to quit

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Speaker 2: rather than fire them. So basically, say, Jimbo Fisher, you

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00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: are now serving food at the training table for Brian Harrison.

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00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: You now are driving the equipment bus, and that's going

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: to piss them off so much as if their contract

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: doesn't explicitly say duties as head comduties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a tried and true practice. We

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: saw it an office space, we saw it in Seinfeld

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00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: when they try to slet George out. Yep, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, there's so many instances of this and

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00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: keep trying to make it harder. Major League the whole

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00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: premise of Major League one was you're going to take

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Speaker 1: away all the luxuries try and try and get them

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Speaker 1: to quit. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, I appreciate the inventiveness of we don't want to

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Speaker 2: pay out this contract, so what if we I love it.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. You know what, Ti, I've traveled

1092
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: more than you have across this college football land because

1093
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: of my days at SI. It may sound like these

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00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: are just people in front of laptops on their couches

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: and they're so disconnected from reality. These people go to games, ty,

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Speaker 2: These are real humans that are not afraid to discuss

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00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: their plans and ideas and theories in person to people

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: with microphones and cameras and notepads.

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Speaker 1: And that's something else that a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: that are highlighted these on these sites and these feeds

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Speaker 1: stand by they're thinking and I love it. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little disappointed that you didn't mention the one post. They

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: have a post to their website their top fifteen moments

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: from October, and it was one from a Florida State fan.

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you remember this one,

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01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: I sent you a message. Oh yeah, yeah, there was

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: Florida State fans says the way this is a war chant.

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: The way FSU has played the last three weeks has

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01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: put a lot of doubt in the novel era. Now,

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Speaker 1: if things go by the way this is posted, yes,

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Speaker 1: this is a wild They were on a losing streak. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now if things go sideways the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: I think FSU needs to make a run at Kirk Farence,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Farns, Kirk Farens, Iowa fans are tired of him anyway,

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Speaker 1: and he may need a change of scenery. I cannot

1116
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: imagine a worse fit than Kirk Farence going to Tallahassee.

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Speaker 1: I continue, tough coach, great defenses. Just don't let him

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Speaker 1: bring his son. Everybody agrees on that as offensive core.

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Speaker 1: I think it could potentially be a home run higher

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Speaker 1: you've just hired their defensive coordinator. There are other guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what Kirk Farrence's agent has to

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: say about that one. Kirk parents may not even know

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Speaker 1: about the state of Florida. That's how big the blinders

1124
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Speaker 1: are that you, oh, he's heard things, he's won Bowl games.

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Speaker 1: That's great. I love that. That is just you know

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Speaker 1: what that speaks to.

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Speaker 2: That speaks to how much this sport and online culture

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Speaker 2: of this sport, as great and as entertaining as it

1129
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: can be, just absolutely poisons all of our minds. And

1130
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Speaker 2: I think in like thirty seven different ways every game,

1131
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: Like somebody doesn't complete an easier, easy ish third down pass,

1132
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: it's fire this guy, change this, kick him out, do that,

1133
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you do something correct.

1134
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: It's we need to pay him everything. We've got to

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Speaker 2: keep him. And it's the the range of emotions that

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Speaker 2: happens in huge Alabama games, tiny Mountain West games and everything,

1137
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: you know, Mac games, everything, Even if they don't have

1138
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: huge fan bases, you're gonna find that pocket of just

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Speaker 2: otherwise somewhat hopefully normal people whose brains just turned to

1140
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: guacamole during games.

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Speaker 1: If you propose this trade to Iowa fans and said

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Speaker 1: you can get Mike Norvel, you have to trade Kirk

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Speaker 1: Ference and Brian Farrence, I gotta believe eighty percent of

1144
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Speaker 1: the Iowa fan base would be like, yep, cool, done, done,

1145
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: don't know anything about Mike Norvel. Got a very strong hairline,

1146
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: a lot like salt and pepper. Yeah, you know, definitely

1147
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: younger take it in a heartbeat. It's pass. I think

1148
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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of love for Kirk Farents probably

1149
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: in that fan base. They've been broken. It's all I

1150
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: got Dan Bor Geniuses message Borgenius and bor Geniuses on Twitter.

1151
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: We appreciate their hard work. Always a bit of a

1152
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 1: rest bit here for us, especially during the season ago

1153
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Speaker 1: into some of the lunacy that makes college football so

1154
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1155
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1163
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Speaker 1: night before the SEC Championship, the night of the PAC

1168
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Speaker 1: twelve Championship, we are going to be inducting people, places,

1169
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Speaker 1: college football entities into our own believe college Football Hall

1170
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Speaker 1: of Fame, not affiliated with the actual college. Again. We

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Speaker 1: have offered to set up a solid verbal yurt with

1172
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Speaker 1: an exhibition of all of our inductees right there in

1173
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: the parking lot of the College Football Hall of fame

1174
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: to be paid for by the college football They would

1175
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: have to cot, they would have to defray the cost,

1176
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: do all the arranging. But yes we would show up

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Speaker 1: to a ribbon cutting, absolutely solidverblelive dot com tickets are

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Speaker 1: going quick. We'd love to see you out there if

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Speaker 1: you are ever so inclined. Dan agree, All right, fun show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you one and all again for your continued support.

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: We are rounding the bend here, getting into the final

1182
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season, but we wanted to freshen it

1183
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: up and keep everybody on their toes for that guy

1184
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ti Hillebrand, thanks again

1185
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Speaker 1: for downloading, listening, playing along at home. You'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you all tomorrow. Stay solid, Peace,