1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, girlfriends, it's Anna here to let you know what 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: to expect in this episode. Like with the last episode, 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: this one takes place inside prison. That'll be mentions of 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: murder as well as domestic and sexual abuse, plus some 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: distressing scenes. But you'll also hear how Kelly makes a 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: real difference for some of the women of Bedford Hills 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: in true Gailhouse lawyer style, and there's going to be 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: some bad language. Enjoy. Kelly Harnett's life changed forever on 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: July seventh, twenty ten, with the death of one man, 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Reuben Angel Vargas, but his wouldn't be the last death 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: connected to her case. 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: The amount of people they have pairsd away within my case, 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: it's just it's very eerie. First, my trial attorney, who 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: was in his fifties, pairs to away. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: David Epstein. He died in twenty seventeen. 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: My call Defennin's ex girlfriend who used to start fistfightsing 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: me every single day in Rikers passed away. There was 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: a man who was going to write an affid David 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: for me. He actually physically saw Tommy beating me up 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: all the time. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: I called. 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: One night he passed away. 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: You can't make these things up. It's eerie, Yeah, it is. Arie. 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: It's twenty seventeen. Kelly's been in Bedford Hill's maximum security 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: prison for over two years. She has ten years left 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: of her sentence. It's a normal day. Kelly's in the 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: law library. She's going through the legal mail when she 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: sees something addressed to her. It's from a guy called Dan, 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: another house lawyer who Kelly refers to as the male 30 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: version of her. The two of them talk on the 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: phone sometimes abouts ideas, around formotions, test their legal arguments 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: on each other, that kind of thing. Kelly's curious about 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: what Dan sent her. She rips open the envelope. 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Something pulled the ground from under me. 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: It's about her co defendant, an ex boyfriend, Tommy Donovan. 36 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: He died. 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: Tommy's died from an overdose in prison. He was thirty 38 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: eight years old. Kelly doesn't know how to feel. Part 39 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: of her is relieved the man who terrorized and abused 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: her is dead and can't hurt her anymore. But she's 41 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: also pretty fucking furious. Tommy killed someone in front of 42 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: her and then helped make sure she got dragged down 43 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: for it too, and now he's dead. Never able to 44 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: give evidence and take back what he said, while she 45 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: still has ten more years to rot behind bars. 46 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: He got the easy way out. I did all the suffering. 47 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: One good thing that Tommy did for Kelly, and there 48 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: aren't a lot of those to choose from, was when 49 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: he wrote that letter, the one he sent to Kelly's 50 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: trial lawyer David Epstein, that said he alone killed Angel 51 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: and that he had only incriminated Kelly out of anger 52 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: and jealousy. But now that Tommy's dead, that letter is 53 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: worth less than the paper it's written on, because now 54 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: that Tommy's dead, there's nobody else alive who is there 55 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: on the night of the murder who can attest to 56 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Kelly's story in open court. 57 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Why are people dying? Why are people dying? 58 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm Anisonfield and from the teams at Novel and iHeart Podcasts. 59 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: This is the Girlfriend's Gelhouse Lawyer, Episode seven, Going Underground. 60 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: People are particular about their birthdays. Some of my friends 61 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: are determined to let theirs pass without so much as 62 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: a hint of fuss. And then I've got other friends 63 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: who claim the entire month for celebrations. I'll probably put 64 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: myself somewhere in the middle of those two. However, you 65 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: spend yours, I think it's fair to say, but it's 66 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: unlikely you'll be doing it behind bars. It's the twelfth 67 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: of August twenty nineteen, Kelly's birthday. This is the tenth 68 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: she's had while locked up. Kelly's thirty eight today, about 69 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: the same age Tommy Donovan was when he died two 70 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: years earlier. There's only so much you can do to 71 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: celebrate whilst you're in prison. It's not like you can 72 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: quickly nip out to Costco for a big cake, and 73 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: even if you could, the guards would probably end up 74 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: tearing it apart looking for rogue nail files. But Kelly's 75 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Bedford family does try and make things special for her. 76 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: One year, one of Kelly's friends goes around the prison 77 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and gets loads of women to write down some nice 78 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: things about Kelly. Then they put all the notes into 79 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: a hot pink, sparkly folder and give it to Kelly 80 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: as a present. They bake her a cake and throw 81 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: her a party. Kelly says it's the best birthday she's 82 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: ever had in or out of prison. Something special about 83 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: this birthday, her thirty eighth. For years, Kelly's been fighting 84 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: for her clients with one arm tied behind her back, 85 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: two arms. Sometimes getting verdicts overturned, cases reopened, and women 86 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: out of prison, even for an established lawyer on the 87 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: outside is extremely hard and very rare. For the women 88 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: of Bedford, the law just isn't always on their side. 89 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Laws change and a new one 90 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: has just come into effect. It's called the DVSJA, also 91 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: known as. 92 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: The Domestic Violence Survivor is Justice Act. So I had 93 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: been studying this bill for ten years since Ryker's Island. 94 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: The DVSJA, or an early version of it, was dreamt 95 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: up by the women of Bedford Penitentiary all the way 96 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: back in the eighties and now in twenty nineteen. It's 97 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: law is designed to be applied in resentencing motions. It's 98 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: meant to be used for the people who are already 99 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: in prison. In practice, it gets judges more opportunities to 100 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: consider how domestic abuse might have factored into someone's crime 101 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: in a way that wasn't considered at an earlier trial, 102 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and then that judge can give out a new sentence. 103 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: In order to submit a DVSJA, you had to be 104 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: incarcerated for at least eight years you had to be 105 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: a victim of domestic violence, the domestic violence had to 106 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: have been a significant kinshiputing factor of the crime, and 107 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: the third prong is based on the history of the 108 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: character and the condition of the defendant that this sentence 109 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: imposed wasn't Julie Harsh. 110 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: Kelly was really lost when she first got removed from 111 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: her job in the law library in late twenty eighteen. 112 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: She saw it as a retaliation from the prison Service 113 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: for reporting the officer she'd been having that secret inappropriate 114 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: relationship with. Kelly does get her job back at one point, 115 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: but then she's told that she's going to be removed again, 116 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: this time because of a new rule saying that an 117 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: inmate can't be in the same job for more than 118 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: thirty six months and that you need to wait a 119 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: full calendar year before getting that job back again. Kelly's 120 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: furious about it, and she's not alone. Her fellow inmates 121 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: really don't want her to be removed either. They rally 122 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: behind her, sending letters of support to the prison. 123 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I have some of the letters myself, and some of 124 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: them are heartbreaking. 125 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I've seen some of these letters. There's so many, and 126 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: you do really get the sense of how much Kelly 127 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: means to the women she's been helping. One of them says, 128 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: I'd lost all hope in the judicial system until Kelly 129 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Harnett arrived. Miss Harnette has given me hope towards the future. 130 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: I fully trust Miss Harnette with my life, and her 131 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: possible removal will, in all likelihood take any hope that 132 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: I have left. As Kelly runs out the clock on 133 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: her job, she's studying the new Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act. 134 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Because this is a brand new law, there's no existing 135 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: template to follow when it comes to filing motions, so 136 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Kelly makes one. 137 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: When I made this template, I started asking people if 138 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: they were victims of domestic violence. It was on my birthday, 139 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: on the very first day that it passed, there was 140 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: a girl that came into pick up meal. 141 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: We'll call this girl Jessica. On Kelly's birthday in August 142 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, which of course she's spending in the law 143 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: library while she still can. She bumps into Jessica. 144 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: She was like, hi, Kelly, And when she was walking out, 145 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: I said, wait, Kim, here, were you a victim of 146 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: domestic violence? And she was like yeah, And then I 147 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: said listen, this new lawg just pissed. 148 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Kelly breaks down the workings of the DVSJA. Next, she 149 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: works up a motion for Jessica and it struckt her 150 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: on how to submit it. 151 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: Now, before you know it, the girl has a court date. Yeah, 152 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: she's screaming, I'm. 153 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: Going a court. 154 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: I was so happy because you never really saw people 155 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: go to court in Bedford. Like when someone went to court, 156 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: the whole place would know about it because it's such 157 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: big news. And she went to court. She came back 158 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: for like a day and she was gone. 159 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: She went home. When Kelly first came to Bedford, she 160 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: promised herself that she would be the first jailhouse lawyer 161 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: to get someone out of prison. And now, finally, after 162 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: years and years of graft, she's done it. But why 163 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: stop at just one? In addition to Jessica, Kelly says 164 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: that she helps at least two more women get out. 165 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: One will called Stacy and the other will call Mikayla. 166 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Another of the many women that Kelly helps is an 167 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: old friend from Rikers, Tasha. It's not her real name, 168 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: but it's what we're calling her. You first met her 169 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: back in episode four. Like Kelly, Tasha had witnessed her 170 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: then boyfriend commit a murder, but she ended up in 171 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: prison for it as well. She came to Bedford from 172 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: Rikers in twenty eighteen without much hope for her future. 173 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: So I just have been I've seen her one day 174 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: in a walk week and I've seen I was like, 175 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 5: oh my. 176 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: God, Kelly Tasha had just received some bad news about 177 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: her case. 178 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: He said, I can appeal it. She said, yes, you can. 179 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: She told me what to do, she wrote it down. 180 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: I did it. 181 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: I submitted it and it was accepted. And these people 182 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 5: told me I could doing a pill. That letter got 183 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 5: me the legal aid lawyer. 184 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: Now I'm excited. I got a lawyer. My first time 185 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: sitting with him. 186 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: He's going very impressed on you know your pill people 187 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: broke you stay in low library alert and said, nope, 188 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 5: somebody did it for me. 189 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Kelly has an inmate client waiting list as long as 190 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: her arm. She's getting through each of them as quick 191 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: as she can. But she's not prepared to do a 192 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: rush job. Firstly because Kelly is nothing if not a perfectionist, 193 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: but also because she knows how high the stakes are. 194 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: One of the next thing makes Kelly helps is a 195 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: woman called Lulu. 196 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: We started out Lulu and I very slowly because I 197 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,119 Speaker 2: had so many other people that I was assisting. However, 198 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: what made me put like bump her up on the 199 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: list was her perseverance. Lulu came to the law library 200 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: more often than anyone that I knew, and she stayed 201 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: for what they called the whole module, because some people 202 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: go and within an hour they say movement, and everybody 203 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: gets up and they can leave if they want. But 204 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: she would stay for the entire module. We were in 205 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: the process of actually reaching out to her attorney. 206 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: But just as Kelly is starting to make progress, and 207 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: as Lulu must allow herself to imagine the light at 208 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel, there's a dark shadow growing 209 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: outside the walls of Bedford Hills. This shadow will morph 210 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: and swell, and neither Lulu, Kelly, or even the justice 211 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: system itself will be powerful enough to stop it. 212 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: I didn't even get to finish the latter, and there was. 213 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: It before we go any further. There's some things I 214 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: want to tell you about Lulu. Her real name is Darlene, 215 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: but she's Lulu to her friends. She was born in Buffalo, 216 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: New York, in nineteen fifty eight and she was one 217 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: of thirteen children. Her story is like a really tragic case. 218 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: It really is. 219 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: Lulu was a victim of childhood sexual abuse and then 220 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: when she was around just eight years old, her mother 221 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: was murdered. 222 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: I started getting acquainted first with her story. It was 223 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: complete heartbreaking. She kind of had to play the mother 224 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: role for many of her siblings. She had suffered throughout 225 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: her childhood just to eat a regular meal, and when 226 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: she got older, unfortunately, she had gotten into drugs. However, 227 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: the person that she was in a relationship with was abusing. 228 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: Her and. 229 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: She felt that she was trapped in this abusive relationship. 230 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: According to Lulu, one night, a group of men turned 231 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: up at the house she shared with her partner. They 232 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: were after money owed for drugs. Lulu said they knocked 233 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: her out and when she came to, she saw her 234 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: partner had been stabbed. Lulu ended up being arrested and 235 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: charged for his death, and apparently, just like Kelly, had 236 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: given police statements while extremely intoxicated. Terrified at the prospect 237 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: of serving twenty five years, Lulu took a plea deal. 238 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Back in twenty twelve, she pled guilty to first agree 239 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: manslaughter and was sentenced to twelve years in prison. 240 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: When I heard that she took a plea bargain, I 241 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: realized she did not have effective representation of counsel because 242 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: this was a clear defense. 243 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: Kelly believes that Lulu should have had the chance to 244 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: speak in court about what she'd been through. 245 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: I believe that if they heard lu story that they 246 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: would have found her not guilty. 247 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: She should not be here. 248 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: This is not right. 249 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: By the time Kelly starts working on her case, Lulu's 250 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: being locked up for over seven years. Kelly's heartbroken by 251 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Lulu's story and impressed with her dedication despite all her challenges. 252 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: Lulu she was struggling as far as her education. I 253 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: don't think she went very far in school because she 254 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: had so many things that she had to do at 255 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: home for her family. 256 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: After bumping Lulu up her list, Kellyan was to file 257 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: something called a four forty ten. It's a motion that 258 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: challenges the fairness or legality of a conviction, and if successful, 259 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: it can overturn a court judgment. But first they need 260 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: to check in with Lulu's original lawyer. Kelly wants to 261 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: ask him to sign an affi david, which is another 262 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: word for a written statement. The aim is to find 263 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: out if and why he advised Lulu to plead out. 264 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: I did not want the four forty to be denied, 265 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: but if I could get an effort David from him, 266 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: that's a piece of evidence. 267 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: But it all comes too late, because it's now March 268 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and the entire world is shutting down as 269 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: a global pandemic is on the rampage. On the sixteenth 270 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: of March, Bedford Hills locks down from COVID nineteen. The 271 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: inmates are kept in their cells for twenty three hours 272 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: a day. The work Kelly and Lulu are doing comes 273 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: to an abrupt stop. On March twentieth, Lulu sends a 274 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: message to her sister. She thanks her for sending a 275 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: care package and asks her to make sure her kids 276 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: are continuously washing their hands and face. COVID nineteen tears 277 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: through Bedford Hills. As infection rates surge all around her, 278 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: Lulu starts to panic. Lulu has chronic kidney disease and 279 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: an underlying heart condition. She's recently had open heart surgery. 280 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: On March twenty eighth, Lulu sends another message to her sister, 281 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: begging her to do all she can to raise the 282 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: alarm with the higher ups in the prison. She says, 283 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: I cannot afford to get this virus. It may kill me. 284 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Please help. Lulu tests positive for COVID in early April 285 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Fellow inmates say she's been lying in her 286 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: cell for days, barely able to move. On April seventh, 287 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: she's taken to the Bedford Infirmary and then to the hospital, 288 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: where she's placed on a ventilator. One of Lulu's friends 289 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: says her family requests a video call, but that the 290 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: on duty officer guarding Lulu in the hospital refuses. Her 291 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: family eventually convinced the doctor to hold the phone to 292 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: her ear so they can say goodbye. Lulu dies alone 293 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: in hospital on April twenty eighth, twenty twenty, sixty one 294 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: years old. She's the first incarcerated woman in the state 295 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: of New York to die from COVID nineteen and if 296 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: you ask Kelly, she shouldn't have even been there in 297 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: the first place. Do you remember the first time you 298 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: learned that she had died. 299 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: I don't remember the date, but we cried like babies 300 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the usual circumstances when somebody passes away. We have like 301 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: a memorial for them in the church, but because of COVID, 302 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: we couldn't even have that. I'm not gonna say I 303 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: was her best friend, but I mean that hit home 304 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: because I felt guilty. I felt like the way. 305 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: She died in a hospital, she couldn't even talk to 306 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: her family. That it just breaks my heart. If I 307 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: got routes, I don't know. 308 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: What all those times that she came there, like, why 309 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: didn't I take her first? 310 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Maybe she could have been all before COVID, and maybe 311 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: she would have still been alive. You'd think that seeing 312 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Lulu pass away from COVID would have made Kelly a 313 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: hundred times more hyper vigilant about staying safe, but if anything, 314 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: it's the opposite. Due to the lockdown, the law library 315 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: is closed. They've also taken away access to the computer 316 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: tablets that the inmates can use to work on their cases. 317 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: The only place where you can still use these tablets 318 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: is in the infirmary. I can only imagine that after 319 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: seeing so many people die, not just those connected to 320 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: her own case but beyond, Kelly just becomes even more 321 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: desperate to secure her freedom before her own time runs out, 322 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: no matter the cost. So she does something extremely reckless. 323 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: I said, I have to catch COVID. I was telling 324 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 2: people to cough in my face. I was purposely telling people, 325 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: like after they're drinking something, I said, can you just 326 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: leave me a little sip of the drink out of 327 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: your cup? And finally, I actually really didn't feel well. 328 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: She takes a test just to be sure. 329 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: Of course it was positive. 330 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: Now that she successfully infected herself, Kelly has her ticket 331 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: to the infirmary, but before that, she heads back to 332 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: herself to pick up the stuff she wants to take 333 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: in with her. 334 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: I had two enormous garbage bags worth of paperwork. Right away, 335 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: they stopped me and they want to know where the 336 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: hell I think I'm going with two bags of paperwork, 337 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm going to the infirmary because I 338 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: tested positive. And they're trying to say I'm not allowed 339 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: to bring the paperwork, which is a lie, because I 340 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: clearly I have the directive memorize you are allowed to 341 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: bring paperwork. I threw the paperwork down and I just 342 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: laid across. I put one arm on one big and 343 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: one arm on the other. I said, I'm not going 344 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: into my cell. I'm pulling my mask off. You stay 345 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: the hell away from me. Anybody comes near me and 346 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go off all over all of you, 347 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: all of you. And it was so scared. 348 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: It was scared to death. 349 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: This went on for eight hours. So because of the 350 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: fact that it went on for eight hours, somebody finally 351 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: said just let her take it, so thank god. So 352 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: I took the paperwork eight hours later, and god, it 353 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: was so heavy, and I realized I was like, I was. 354 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: Like Jesus, I couldn't breathe. I couldn't breathe. Now, the 355 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 6: infirmary is quite a walk away, so you always know 356 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 6: who has COVID when they're being escorted. 357 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: Especially with their property. 358 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: So I have half the yard run up to me. Esquire, Esquire, 359 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: oh no, esqt library, all the library. 360 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: But I couldn't even look at them. 361 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 2: I was watching the cracks in the grounds and like 362 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: I was starting to get tunnel vision because it was 363 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: so heavy and I couldn't breathe. And I remember looking 364 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: at the cracks in the grounds and saying, I think 365 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna die here. And I said, if I die here, 366 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: you know what. I died fighting. 367 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, Kelly did not die from COVID nineteen, she makes 368 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: a full recovery and as for the work she's doing, 369 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: paying off her friend, Tasha is being resentenced. 370 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: I was, oh my god. 371 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 5: I was happy and scared and nervous. I think I 372 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 5: was maybe the third person in Bedford to get resentencing. 373 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: This resentencing means that Tasha is getting out. She's one 374 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: of at least four people Kelly says she's helped regain 375 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: their freedom. The night before Tasha's resentencing in July twenty 376 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty one, her and Kelly are hanging out in one 377 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: of the yards. 378 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: She said, Kelly, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't 379 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: be walking out of these doors tomorrow. I said, oh, 380 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: you probably would at some point she said no, no, 381 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling you I'd be doing I don't know, twenty 382 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: years or whatever. 383 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: They got old Kelly the most everything with my every being, 384 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for her, I probably would never 385 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: have gone back to the lower Library. 386 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: To try to find, you know, fight my way out. 387 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 5: A lord is say they're supposed to have your faith 388 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 5: in God, but I had nothing but faith in her. 389 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: The next morning, Kelly watches from her cell as her 390 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: friendly Spadford. 391 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: Behind standing on my window. I looked up and I 392 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: saw her going up the hill. I watched and I 393 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: started to cry. I was happy for her, but I 394 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: was like, I wish that was me. I wish that 395 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: was me, And I guess God heard that. 396 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Kelly Hannett was officially removed from her job in the 397 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Bedford Hills Law Library in April twenty twenty. She's still 398 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: allowed to go in there, but she's not allowed to 399 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: give legal help with cases anymore. 400 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: The law library was like driven into the ground after 401 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: I left. 402 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: After losing the battle to keep working in the law library, 403 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: Kelly finally admits defeat. She stops taking clients and hangs 404 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: up her jailhouse lawyer boots for good. Now I'm only 405 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: taking the piss. The law is the true love of 406 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: Kelly Harnett's life, and she's not going to give it 407 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: up for anyone. And so, dear listener, I'm excited to 408 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: welcome you to Kelly Hannett's underground law library. 409 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: I just helping people on the unit. I started helping 410 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: people in the yards. I helped people, no joke, in snowstorms, 411 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: and I'm not even. 412 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: Kidding it was it got bared one rainy day Kelly's 413 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: in the prison yard doing some secrets prison rule breaking 414 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: door work for one of her inmate clients. 415 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: They sold ponchos in the commissary. We had girls holding 416 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: two ponchos over us because the girl whose federal habeist 417 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: I didn't finish, she had like two days left, so 418 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: they held it over us so that we could finish it. 419 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: While I was boring. I mean, if I was an 420 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: officer and I saw that, I would have thought much 421 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: worse things were happening underneath. 422 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: Oh that yeah. 423 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: Well they checked it out though, and they said, oh, 424 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: that's just Harnett, that's little library. Then they started searching 425 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: my cell, ripping it apart, looking for other people's law papers. 426 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: But I was never stupid enough to keep anyone's legal papers. 427 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: Every time I finished helping them, I get them right 428 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: back to them and say go ahead, I'll meet you 429 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: on another day. 430 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Kelly's jail house lawyer reputation is so secure that even 431 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: when she's not in the law library anymore, people know 432 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: she's the person to come to. And now with the 433 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 1: vital tool of the Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act in 434 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: her back pocket, it seems like she's unstoppable. One day, 435 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: Kelly heads into a place called the day Room. It's 436 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: on the on a floor where Kelly stays. It's a 437 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: section of the prison you get access to if you 438 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: have consistent good behavior or if you keep your clandesign 439 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: Law Library operation under wraps. And in there she finds 440 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: someone we're calling Tina, who's playing cards with some of 441 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: the other women on the floor. Tina has been in 442 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: prison since twenty sixteen. She suffered a lifetime of abuse 443 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: from family members, previous partner, and others. One terrible night, 444 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: following a drug relapse, she violently attacked her then boyfriend. 445 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: She was found guilty of attempted murder. Kelly and Tina 446 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: get to talking about what Kelly's been up to in 447 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: and out of the law library. 448 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 7: She started telling me, you know how many people she's 449 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 7: helped along the way in how many you know appeals 450 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: she has put in for individuals. 451 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: And I'm just listening to her. Tina is a little 452 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: different from most of the other women Kelly deals with. 453 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: She doesn't need Kelly's help. She already has a lawyer 454 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: fighting her corner. 455 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 7: I'm not thinking of her helping me. I'm thinking of 456 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 7: me helping her, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna reach 457 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 7: out to the lawyer that's helping me, is you know, 458 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 7: see what she can do or if she's willing to 459 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: take on this case. 460 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: The lawyer's name is Kate Mogolescu. 461 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 7: Kate was more than willing, and she was like, yeah, sure, 462 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 7: i'll you know, I'll look it up. 463 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: I'll see what I can do. 464 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 7: And eventually she did that and she took on Kelly's case. 465 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: I had a phone call with Kate mogula school and 466 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Kate asked me, Kelly, would you like to write your 467 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: own motion? And I thought that was so cool and 468 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: I would love to write my own motion and I 469 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 2: said yes, absolutely. It wasn't until after she asked me 470 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: that that I realized, wait a minute, I can't just 471 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: jump on this like every single other statute and motion 472 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: and case. This is very different. This is where emotions 473 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: meet the law. 474 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: Kelly writes and writes, pouring her heart into each page. 475 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: She's constructing what's called the narrative, sharing the abuses and 476 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: trauma she suffered throughout her life, making the court see 477 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: how all built up to the one final catastrophic event 478 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: that put her behind bars. Once she's done, she hands 479 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: it over to Kate, who tweaks it and submits it, 480 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: and then they wait a few months. After their submission, 481 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: a response comes through. 482 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: Keith said to me, they're allowing you to replee. She 483 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: said fifteen years, but I was at thirteen. 484 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I said no. 485 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: I said, it's time serves or nothing. 486 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: Kelly's lost too many years already, so she tells Kate 487 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: to go back and fight. 488 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: I just felt it. 489 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: One day, Kelly practically leaps out of her cell and 490 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: starts booking it to the law library. 491 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: I ran so that I could be the first one 492 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: in the kiask. I jumped on, I put my numbers in. 493 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: She has a message. 494 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: And I was from Kate. She said, Kelly, they gave 495 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: you time served. You got it, Congratulations And I just 496 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: started screaming. 497 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I was like. 498 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: And my best friends knew what was going on, so 499 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: they were like, you got it. 500 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 4: I was like, I got it. I'm going home. 501 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: People started pounding on their doors. 502 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: Let me out, Let me out, so. 503 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: That everybody came out from inside. They all just stood 504 00:33:51,920 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: there and clacked for me. We ran into the phone 505 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: room and I said, here's the phone call for years 506 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: I've been going over this phone call in my head. 507 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: The phone called her brother, Ronnie and their mother. 508 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: I get to call them up and scream on coming on. 509 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: Kelly dials the number, her fingers shaking. 510 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 2: I said Hi, Ronnie, and he's like hi, and I said, right, 511 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm coming on. He said, oh my god, Kelly, thank god. 512 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: But I'm like, why is he sounding like you? Normally 513 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: Ronnie would be screaming, but he's whispering. 514 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: So I said till I. 515 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: And he said, no, Oh, I can't Kelly. 516 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 4: She's sleeping. 517 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: And I said, Ronnie, I'm coming home from prison. 518 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Wake her up. 519 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: And he was like, Kelly, she can't talk. And I said, 520 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: what do you mean she can't talk. I just spoke 521 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: to her Ronnie the day before last. He said, I know, 522 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with her. She cannot speak. 523 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with her. Every time 524 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: I tell her I'm gonna call nine one one, she 525 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: shakes it. No, no, no, So I don't know what 526 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: to do. So I told Ronnie put me on speaker 527 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: and wake her up, and he did that, and I said. 528 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 4: Mom, I'm coming home. I'm coming home. 529 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: Kelly's mom doesn't reply. 530 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: I said, Ronnie, is she reacting? What is she doing? 531 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: He said, she gave a thumbs up and like that 532 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 2: broke my hell. I said, oh my god, my mother's dying. 533 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: After serving twelve years helping at least four other women 534 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: get out of prison, Kelly Harnett has finally finally won 535 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: her own freedom. The day she'll get to walk out 536 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: of Bedford Prison is just around the corner. But it 537 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: might have come too late for her mother, Kathleen. 538 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: I needed to get out. It was a race against time, now. 539 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: Next time. On the final episode of The Girlfriend's Gel 540 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: House Lawyer. 541 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: And when it came out of the yeats, I remember 542 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: a screaming and going and putting my arms in the air. 543 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 2: When I looked at her eyes, I said, that's my mother. 544 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe for our scene and Sam stated, I 545 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 2: don't know where I stand with anything. 546 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 4: Will they put me in prison? 547 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: They put everybody in prison. Really, it's over, It's over? 548 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: Is it over? The Girlfriend's Jailhouse Lawyer is produced by 549 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: Novel for iHeart Podcasts. 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