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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two. I'm gonna get a

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Speaker 2: chuckle out of Mat every time. As long as he

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Speaker 2: keeps chuckling, I'll keep doing it our number two of

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. As we get closer and closer to Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and I just you know what, Matt, just real quick

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Speaker 2: off the topic, it's gonna be nice to be at

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Speaker 2: Akroscher Stadium on Sunday. I've been a while, right. I

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Speaker 2: know that Vikings game counted as a home game, but

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Speaker 2: that's the furthest game that the Steelers are gonna play

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Speaker 2: all season. At the same time as well.

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Speaker 3: We're pretty deep in the season. Did not have much

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Speaker 3: act your action, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean like I'm driving home from work and everyone's

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Speaker 2: got their Halloween stuff out. Yeah, yeah, Costco's got Christmas

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Speaker 2: stuff out already. It's getting dark at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Now, sure.

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers have played one game home game at

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Speaker 2: Akshire Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Which means there's a lot coming up which means there's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot coming up, which is the good news.

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Speaker 3: Of that, and you're sitting in good shape, sitting in.

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Speaker 2: Good shape and hopefully getting a right opponent at the

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Speaker 2: right time. In those Cleveland Browns, who were you know.

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Speaker 3: They scare me a little, though they always yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: defense scares me.

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Speaker 2: They particularly scare me in Cleveland where the Steelers I

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Speaker 2: think have lost three years in a row there, the

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Speaker 2: Browns have I.

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Speaker 3: Meant to ask Labs this and sorry to interrupting, You're good.

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Speaker 3: I mean I hate and that so many Thursday games

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Speaker 3: or division games, hate them. I mean, and I've asked

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Speaker 3: many people why that's the case. There's one to night,

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Speaker 3: there's I mean one next week's including Steers. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of them, and they do them on purpose because

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Speaker 3: the league says, well, you know this opponent better than others.

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Speaker 2: It's easier for you to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: That's their lodge.

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Speaker 2: I figured it was like because Jeff Bezos wrote a

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Speaker 2: huge check for Amazon to have the rights too important.

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Speaker 3: Yes, obviously a little bit of both, But the fact

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Speaker 3: that they basically count double as other games. I hate.

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Speaker 3: It's so much harder on the road team and Steelers

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Speaker 3: at Browns on Thursday night is the best example ever.

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Speaker 2: They they I feel like the Steelers have kind of

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Speaker 2: gotten the short end of the stick in that regard,

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of their Thursday games over the recent

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Speaker 2: years have been on the road against the divisional.

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Speaker 3: Opponent off in Cleveland. It doesn't go well.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that snow Globe game was a Thursday game? I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure if I'm remembering correctly. As mister TV our

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Speaker 2: video producer nods his head over there, now you got

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Speaker 2: to go in way more, way more. Yeah, Like a

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Speaker 2: few years ago when the Steelers hosted one, it was

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Speaker 2: at home against the Titans. If I'm if I'm recalling correctly, okay, great, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, that's it's it's the division ones

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Speaker 2: are tough, and especially it feels like the Steelers get

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Speaker 2: most of those on the road.

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Speaker 3: Now. What I'm hoping, and I know we want to

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Speaker 3: get this practice for it is if and when eighteen

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Speaker 3: games two buys come that game is with ten days rest.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it makes more sense.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you know, right, you still put a great

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Speaker 2: And I mean Labs made a great point Monday, you're

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Speaker 2: the coaches everything. Everything. Yeah, they're like sleep. They're going

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Speaker 2: like Sunday night to the office, probably the Steelers. After

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Speaker 3: If you have a road game on Sunday before even

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Speaker 2: Get like half a practice on Tuesday, and then Wednesday

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Speaker 2: you practice and you get on the plane, it's just yeah,

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Speaker 2: speaking of those Browns, here's what they've got in their

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Speaker 2: injury report. I guess some good news, some bad news.

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Speaker 2: Joel Buttonio went from limited on Wednesday to full participant today.

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Speaker 3: Uh he missed any time last week?

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Speaker 2: No, I I don't believe. So. Malachi Corley has been

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not part of the mix much though.

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Speaker 2: Grant Delpit full participant with an ankle injury. Mike Hall,

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Speaker 2: for two days in a row Wednesday and Thursday. Miles

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Speaker 3: That's all news to me. Let's not get our hopes up.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, no doubt, but I think it's still noteworthy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's something to massively keep an.

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Speaker 2: Eye less than ideal if you're if you're Cleveland, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Demante Kayz has not practiced yet this week. Yeah, formerly

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Speaker 2: Let's see here, Katie, it's in the tackle has been

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Speaker 3: Okay, they want to replace him with Cam Robinson anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Correct? And then good news for Denzel Ward. He

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Speaker 3: Okay, Award's a great player too, but I mean it

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Speaker 3: sounds like he's gonna play, I think, so okay, so

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Speaker 3: we're in pretty good shapeall and all. I'm gonna assume

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Speaker 2: I'm going to as well too.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, sure they don't need to practice him

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Speaker 2: That's the you know, he is the proverbial veteran that

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Speaker 2: just get yourself right for Sunday and that's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, going to be something that will keep an

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Speaker 3: Last Garrett note, though I've mentioned all week Colum pressed,

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Speaker 2: And I don't think i'm breaking any news here, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: Because you have some of those injuries and you get

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Speaker 2: so be it. But a seven and a half eight

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Speaker 2: from England, completely different story. Matt. I wanted to for

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Speaker 2: the back half of this segment. In our next segment,

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Speaker 2: get back into some Matt's stats with you, if that's

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Speaker 2: all right with you always, and let's kind of start

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Speaker 2: or continue maybe Steelers offense, Brown's defense, because I think

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Speaker 2: that's where a lot of the meat of this matchup is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Browns defense is a lot better than

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Speaker 2: A very good Browns defense against I think a Steelers

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Speaker 2: most encouraging performance since the opener against the Jets. I

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Speaker 2: think certainly. So let's talk about this Steelers using play

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Speaker 2: action thirteen percent of the time. Only the Falcons, Jets, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and Bucks use it less. This is another thing we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'd like to give the bottom of it

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Speaker 3: more because week one against the Jets it was very high.

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Speaker 2: Stats for Week two it was in the thirties.

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Speaker 3: I was citing things along the lines of, that's the

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Speaker 3: clearly gotten away from it. Is it his uncomfortableness with it?

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Speaker 3: matters is if they're super worried about their past protection.

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Speaker 3: It just explains a lot of how they play offense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all the short passing, lack of shot, lack

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Speaker 2: Long'ive Mike, Tomlin and Arthur some truth serum and get

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Speaker 3: And I think the best analy and I think I'm

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Speaker 3: why teams do things. You know, Dale and I talked about.

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Speaker 2: This for years, especially after four games too, right, You.

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Speaker 3: Know that there's a couple of times during the years

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Speaker 3: or to anyone the draft. They're gonna pick the player

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Speaker 2: Like, unless it's the Browns and they pass on Richard.

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Speaker 3: Free agency, you know, hires and fires, you know where

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Speaker 3: it's sometimes true, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes you gotta read

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Speaker 3: the tea leaves for all teams. But where What I

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Speaker 3: love about off season acquisitions is no one lies, you know,

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Speaker 3: or trade or whatever. Absolutely other reasons are the other

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Speaker 3: Dakoder ring out and figure it out. But it seems

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Speaker 3: kind of a parent that they don't trust their past

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Speaker 3: protection or a lot of these things wouldn't be the

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Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, and I think you can

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Speaker 2: kind of combine that with the fact of worried about

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Speaker 2: the past protection and worried about the exposure the hits

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it all goes hands hand.

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Speaker 2: If you've got twenty seven year old Ben or twenty

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Speaker 2: seven year old Aaron, you're more likely to let them

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Speaker 3: But better shape and you're you know, you're less likely

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Speaker 2: And Matt another one again, Wendy, learn to trust it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't live that way forever.

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Speaker 2: And this kind of paints that picture as well too.

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Speaker 2: And they're not really that close.

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Speaker 3: So much more right, And there's thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, these are these are strong trend they're not even trends.

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Speaker 2: And that you are right now, that number, to me

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no chance. And maybe this is not the Sunday

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Speaker 2: Close right that. I'm really glad you included the others there,

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Speaker 2: You need that full scope right right, right, Matt, last

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Speaker 2: And that makes a lot of sense, and especially now again,

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Speaker 2: Final dive into max stats packets here on this Thursday. Matt,

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Speaker 2: let's continue rolling. Yeah, some of these. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty strong, indicating.

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Speaker 3: That is wild, and it affects the play calling and

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Speaker 3: the first three, four or five minutes of the of

439
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: the game, it's zero zero if you don't score off

440
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 3: the bash. Yeah, it's like it's you know, there's a

441
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: lot of them that are just a wash. Or you

442
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: get three points and I answer three points.

443
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: You know, Matt, you referenced a time of possession earlier on.

444
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: It really worries me with this team.

445
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's paint this picture and dig into this a

446
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: little bit more. Steelers opponents through their four games have

447
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: run fifty four more offensive plays than the Steelers average

448
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: of eleven more per game that the Steelers defense is

449
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: on the field than their opposition.

450
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: It's gonna wear on you.

451
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna wear on you. And you can draw a

452
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: direct direct correlation to the Steelers time of possession per game,

453
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: which is an average of twenty six minutes and forty

454
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: six seconds, third lowest in the league. Only ahead of

455
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Baltimore.

456
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only way you can survive that way and

457
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: the long term is to be like the most explosive

458
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: team in the league. You're like, okay, I get I

459
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: get the ball, you kick off to me, and I

460
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: hit a seventy yarder and I only eat up eighteen

461
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: seconds of play clock, but I scored seven points. You know, like, like,

462
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: but that's that doesn't.

463
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: This was a big thing. You remember when when it

464
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: was at the same time that Chip Kelly was at

465
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: or and had them humming when they were playing like

466
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: lights and one of the top ten teams in the country. Yeah,

467
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: and Rich Rodriguez was at WVU his first stint and

468
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: top ten team in the country, and those two teams

469
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 2: were like such outliers because their time of possession for

470
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: their offense was like twenty four to twenty five minutes

471
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: a game because they played soap because they played so

472
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: fast and were scoring so quick.

473
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: And three and out's hurt your bad though, but it

474
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: was exactly right, three and taking good and so a

475
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 4: big part of that was like, yeah, these teams are

476
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: finishing in the top ten every year and they're winning

477
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 4: double digit games and they're having a ton of success,

478
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: but if they want to win national championships, they can't

479
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 4: have their defense on the field that often.

480
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: There's a real kind of chicken or egg thing that well.

481
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: And as you know, especially a huge school like Oregon

482
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: too well, I'll just go the second team dudes are

483
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: also in scholarship. The third team dudes are also on scholarship.

484
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 3: Your rosters are deeper, your benches are better. You can

485
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: handle it, for sure, you know, right.

486
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Sure, But that was one of the things that it

487
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: was like anytime Oregan would lose a game and'd be like,

488
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: well that twenty four minutes of possession is finally catching

489
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: up with them. Yeah, and there was some truth to that,

490
00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: but it was all sure.

491
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: Defense didn't love it. No, at least the defense was

492
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: playing with leads some.

493
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: Of those early like Chip Kelly, Mike Leach, Rich Rodriguez offenses.

494
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: You could not have enjoyed being the defensive coordinator for

495
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: those times.

496
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: When Kelly came to the Eagles. It didn't work at all.

497
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: You can't play that game in this absolute disast, right,

498
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: fifty three man rosters and you have two injuries, and

499
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: you know.

500
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: Right, despite their struggles on offense, the Browns actually thirty

501
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: one minutes and seven seconds average time of possession, Yeah,

502
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: which isn't blow the doors off of you, but that's

503
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: that's a slightly better than league average.

504
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: I think a lot of their defense is really good. Yeah,

505
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: I mean they get off the off the field field,

506
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: they make play.

507
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, they force three and outs playing.

508
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: And Judkins is We've been talked enough about Judkins. He's

509
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: a really good player.

510
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna think got him playing.

511
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, he's easily their best offensive player too, Yes,

512
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: and really really impressive, better than I thought he was

513
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: at a high state, you know. So they are built

514
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: a little bit better to eat clock.

515
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: If you and I would do this from time to

516
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: time as well, you could steal any one player off

517
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: the Browns and put them on the Steelers. And I'm

518
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: gonna say, you can't say Miles Garrett because that's just

519
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: a cheat code. That's it. Would it be Junkins At

520
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: this point.

521
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: We haven't had this conversation. I think years ago you

522
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: brought this up. I'm a Siica you are.

523
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: That's why I love you, Matt.

524
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: I play this game in my own warped cranium all

525
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 3: the time, and sometimes, like when I can't sleep at night.

526
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: I'll be like, all right, I'm doing the NFC West

527
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: and lay there.

528
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: You'd have been a really good Madden player.

529
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 3: Oh dude, because I have rules in my head, and

530
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to take quarterback. It's too easy, no

531
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: matter what. You can't take a quarterback, even if you're

532
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and you're myhomes you know. But I only

533
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: do it for the Steelers. But sometimes I even go

534
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: get crazy and be like, what if I'm the Bengals,

535
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: I'll play the game because I already went through the

536
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: league in the last month or whatever. What Bear would

537
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: I take if I'm the Bengals, Or what Bengal would

538
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: I take if I'm the Bears. So you're not allowed

539
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: to take a quarterback in my rules, in my little brain.

540
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: And we can play this every week if you want,

541
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: love it and you get the player as is, meaning age, contract,

542
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: everything involved.

543
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just say I want to add Miles

544
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: Garrett to the team.

545
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 3: Well you might have to cut someone to do it

546
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: in cap space and all these things too, you know.

547
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: And so I I love that game. I play it

548
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: in my own world.

549
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm putting this on our weekly outlet by the way

550
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: right now.

551
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: Should we do the Browns? Heck, yeah, they're a bad

552
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: team to pick from.

553
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: I mean there's maybe an offensive lineman or two there

554
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: that we wouldn't hate.

555
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't like their line at all.

556
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: It's too old Judkins. We're gonna get him on his

557
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: rookie deal for the next four years.

558
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure there's a team I would take a

559
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: running back though, because running backs are I can get

560
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: one in the second round. They got him in the

561
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: second round. Like often, I'm gonna take a left tackle,

562
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: or a wide receivers or a pass rusher.

563
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: If Joe Thomas was still on the Browns. This is

564
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 2: the easiest conversation ever.

565
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: Of course, if I have to take an offensive player, though,

566
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: it's probably Judkins, which is frankly a slap in the

567
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: face to the Browns, because not a slap to face

568
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: to him. It's complied to him. He's really good, but

569
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: he's also got off the field. I mean, we gotta

570
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: take the real thing, you know, like and I rarely

571
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: play that game because he's not guilty of anything. I

572
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: don't know the young man, but there could be a

573
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: suspension looming. This is public knowledge, you know, Like rightly,

574
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: the wide receiver Bond. He turned himself in for Domester

575
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: for stuff, yes, that you can find anywhere. I mean,

576
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: he's he's been. He's not a good guy, you know,

577
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: and you have to put those things into account. Now,

578
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: of course you take Garrett. We can do it minus

579
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: a superstar too, you know, like it's just.

580
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: More like the answer is Garrett.

581
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: You trade high or whatever. You find a way to

582
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: make it work and you turn TJ. Watt or Garrett

583
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 3: into a first round pick or whatever. You know, Like

584
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: you just take him because he's awesome. But who's There's

585
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: not many to pick frohim on this maybe, but I

586
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: like the corners.

587
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: At a position of strength now like last year.

588
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: It's an easy one, right, it's an easy one.

589
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean this is would you go Mason Graham? Yah?

590
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: I liked him better? Yes, I just don't like him

591
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: very much and I would not have picked him at

592
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: that pick. And he's been better than I thought so far.

593
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: But I don't think he fits a scheme and I

594
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: don't like him very much. I mean I really like

595
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: the off the ball linebacker Sweestionnger. I mean, like with

596
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: this team, a rookie would go a long way because

597
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: I got him cap controlled for a long time. But

598
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: there's a new linebacker, you know, a true linebacker, you

599
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean? For the inaugural, our version of this,

600
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: this is maybe the worst team we could picked, right

601
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of Cincinnati.

602
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: There's a couple of superstars on right, A lot of

603
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: these teams like Chase out of the equation. I'll take

604
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: t Higgins, yeah.

605
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: Right right, you know, but a lot of the teams

606
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: there's a fun discussion. Would you take Sauce Gardener or

607
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson or Williams or Membo?

608
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: One right right?

609
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we can even go back in time. We

610
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: should have done the bye week. Maybe it is Shudkins.

611
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I haven't done the Browns in my head for I

612
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: haven't had a hard time sleeping right.

613
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: Sleeping lately.

614
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: You put him next to Warren for four years, you know,

615
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: the next couple of years or whatever, you're pretty happy

616
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: about it.

617
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: During Lightning combination there I wish there was.

618
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: The young old lineman or a receiver I loved, but

619
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be Fanning. It wouldn't be Graham. I don't think,

620
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's Graham, But this is maybe my

621
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: last team to do this with. You know, I mean

622
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: other than if your Garrett's not allowed, yes, and Garrett's

623
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: on a need you know, most teams I would not

624
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: take in that rusher.

625
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you know correct, right, you want you also want

626
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: to marry this with our biggest weaknesses.

627
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely and cap issues and youth and you know you

628
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: need another expensive thirty one year or twenty nine and

629
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: a half year old guy.

630
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: Right.

631
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: Well, if he's awesome, yes, but if he's a world

632
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: you're right right, Yeah, he's a certain first ballot Hall

633
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: of Famer.

634
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: Yes, certainly. Okay, getting back to this, that's fun. We'll

635
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: continue to do well. I think jug kids is my

636
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: is my answer. We'll continue to do.

637
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: Understand it throughout the people will like this game. Because

638
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 3: I get real nerdy about it. I used to let

639
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: myself have the option of anyone on the roster not

640
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: name a quarterback or their first round pick next year.

641
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: In this case, I would definitely take their first round

642
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: pick next year. If you get any asset from the Browns.

643
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: I went there. I went there, first round.

644
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: That's our quarterback, right, that's Dante Moore, men Brown's first

645
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: That ends up.

646
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Being too easy for some teams you just take the pick.

647
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. A couple more things that kind of paint

648
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: that picture. By the way you are. That's why, that's

649
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: why I love you. Brown's running the third most plays

650
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: per game in the NFL, a little over sixty six

651
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: per game, Steelers fourth fewest at just under fifty four.

652
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Let me stop quick.

653
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Steelers play slow on purpose. That's a Rogers thing.

654
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: They go deep into the play calls on the play clock.

655
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: Likes to see what the defense is doing. Play a little,

656
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: pay a little.

657
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Which should help your time of possession, but doesn't help

658
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: you run a lot of plays, you know, like fantasy

659
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: people are so smart, Like you don't want fantasy dudes

660
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: from offenses don't run a lot of plays, you know,

661
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: especially running backs, some quarterbacks. But I wonder what I

662
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: one thing I should look at, and maybe I will tonight.

663
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Do the Browns snap the ball quickly? I bet they do,

664
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: especially when they're losing, sure, because you play faster. Yeah,

665
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

666
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, that's a very good point by you.

667
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: And that that is out there now, Like there's so

668
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: many sick goes out there, right.

669
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are making a living

670
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: doing this, certainly, and for that we are grateful Pace

671
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: Stats and we are we are grateful for you and

672
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 2: your kid. Matt Williams. Games with the Cleveland Browns are

673
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: averaging just thirty nine point two combine points scored. That's

674
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: second fewest in the NFL. Just five hundred and thirty

675
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: six combined yards. That's fewest in the league.

676
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: That's what Matt and I put the average yards on there.

677
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Yes, it's way under six fifty six.

678
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean think about that. I mean one hundred and

679
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: twenty yards less than the average NFL game.

680
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: That to me, possessions, plays, opportunities are at a premium

681
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: in this one for the Steelers on thousand.

682
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: Percent, right, it probably won't be points, it probably won't

683
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: be a lot of yards. I mean warning people like

684
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: if they win this one in a low scoring game,

685
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: and right, fine and on Monday people are complaining, but

686
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: they only had two hundred and ten yards of offense.

687
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: That's how every Browns game goes. Fine, right, right, that's

688
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: playing your opponent.

689
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: You know, we've only got so many at bats against

690
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: this team, yeah right, right right, hit some singles and

691
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: driving a couple of runs and win a low scoring game.

692
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean that's how Browns games go.

693
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly it, exactly it. The Browns have blitzed on

694
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: just sixteen percent of early down dropbacks, lowest percentage in

695
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: the league league Steelers forty two and a half percent

696
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: of the time, second highest percentage in the league. Only

697
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: that sick O'Brian Flores in Minnesota or higher higher.

698
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm a little hot shocked the Steelers are that high.

699
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: And they bring a lot of six man pressers as.

700
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Well, especially after being very low in that department last year.

701
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Like this is a I don't dislike something we talked

702
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: about in the off season a lot. I think it's

703
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: because of the Corners. When you only one corner you

704
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: trusted last year, you couldn't blitz as much because there

705
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: was only Porter, and now you got three you trust her.

706
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Four Browns just don't need it. Yeah, And I know

707
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: that people are critical of the Steelers of not being

708
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: being an execution based offense, that they don't do a

709
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: lot of different stuff. The Browns don't either. They play

710
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: a lot of single high they bring four you know.

711
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Static as well last ones for you, Matt, some bigger

712
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: picture stuff just to kind of set the table, set

713
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: the scene. Uh, let's go to Mike Tomlin. First. Good

714
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: two very good indicators for the Steelers in this games

715
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: that relates to Mike Tomlin's tenure. The first, Garrett Garrett

716
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Get Garrett Gabriel Dyl that's a kid I went to

717
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: high school with. Viln Gabriel became the ninth rookie quarterback

718
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: to face Mike well Will will become the ninth rookie

719
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: quarterback to face Mike Tomlin and one of their first

720
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: two career starts. The other eight have only won against

721
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: Tomlin two times. Good good indicator there of Mike Tomlin

722
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: against early rookie quarterbacks. He's had a ton of success

723
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: against those guys in his career.

724
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: To be fair, I bet that's not just a Tomlin's dad.

725
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean how many rookie quarterbacks.

726
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: I bet you you know, I mean even the best,

727
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: most successful coaches. Right. That's a great point too. That's

728
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: why we top the win first start, the.

729
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisbergers and the Jade and Daniels of the world

730
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: that hit the ground running and win a ton of

731
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: games when their rookie so rare.

732
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

733
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

734
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: Last one for Tomlin.

735
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: I know we're going this one. This is an accident.

736
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: This is his nineteenth season, is the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach,

737
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: fourteen and four in his previous eight teen years, coming

738
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: off of a bye week. Fantastic, phenomenal, fantastic.

739
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: And most times your opponent isn't coming from overseas on

740
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: a road game.

741
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: With our rookie quarterback making his set.

742
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, there's a lot of stuff.

743
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to like in that regard. Finally, just

744
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: to kind of paint the picture of how stinking good

745
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: t J. Watt and Miles Garrett are, they are pretty

746
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: outstand Yeah. This to me is like Crosby and Ovechkin

747
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: getting drafted into the same division and you know, are

748
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: so much better than everybody else. Reminds me Mal they

749
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: were in the same division, exactly, right, great example by you. TJ.

750
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Watt and Miles Garrett first and second, respectively in sacks

751
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: in the league since they entered it in twenty seventeen.

752
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: One hundred and eleven for TJ, one oh six and

753
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: a half for Miles. No other player has more than

754
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: eighty five during that time.

755
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: Staneil Hunter too, I mean, he's a really good player too,

756
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: But this one's even close.

757
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: That's just ridiculous, the same not even in the same breath, like,

758
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: not even in the same vein. That to me paints

759
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: the picture of just how good those two are. They

760
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: both at times can kind of downplay the personal rivalry.

761
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: I do think Miles has leaned into it a little

762
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: bit more than TJ has. But that's also what happens

763
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: when and when you're on the losing side of those things.

764
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: I think you want to puff your chest out a

765
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: little bit more when it when it does go your way.

766
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: But man, very fortunate to uh to watch those two

767
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: now for for darn near a decade, awesome chase the

768
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: league in that department, and again they.

769
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: Might go the whole fame together.

770
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: That'd be something, right they retired at the same time

771
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: and went into the Hall of Fame together. But those

772
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: two pretty stinking good at their craft. We all knew that,

773
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: But especially when you consider, I mean, there's no one

774
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: else even within twenty sacks of those two in that time.

775
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: Blowybody away.

776
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: That's insane.

777
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: And obviously guys like Parsons came along later. They're not gonna,

778
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, if you just did the Parsons stretch. Maybe

779
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: it's closed, but.

780
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: You know that's a good point. But yeah, there's again

781
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: not not many guys. He might be one of the

782
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: very few that you can even kind of put in

783
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: that same stratusy one in the time that they have

784
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: been in the National Football League. One more segment to

785
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: go when we return. On the other side, we'll turn

786
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: it over to you on Twitter. We got a few

787
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: tweets rolling in here already that I've saved. If you

788
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: want to lob a last minute hail Mary at us

789
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: at Williamson NFL at wesle Yuler is where you can

790
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: get involved. Will close down with your participation. On the

791
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: other side, it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

792
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

793
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

794
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

795
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on a Thursday, Matt,

796
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: what do you say we go to the tweets to

797
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: close us down. Annie tweets us she was at the

798
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: the Fitzsimon's Temple Bar with us in Dublin. Yes to

799
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: nice to have Andy rock a rocking and rolling here.

800
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Still a couple of quick hitters from her Number one

801
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: is Patrick Queen having a sneaky good season?

802
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah he is, And I think and better It's a

803
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: good way to put it.

804
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think people were a little disappointed

806
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: in him last year. Didn't wasn't Jack Lambert in its

807
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: first season? You know what I mean? I think he's

808
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: getting better and better, real baby steps, you know.

809
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: He's showing up every weeps and bounds.

810
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree.

811
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: Number two. Are trap games a real thing in the NFL?

812
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: Or is it just that the other team has good

813
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: players and coaches too? I don't know.

814
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: I've thought that a lot. I think you'd have to

815
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: really ask a player.

816
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: It's it's not Michigan losing to Appalachian State.

817
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Right, you know, right, like lab said, I mean, anyone

818
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: will lose anybody. I mean, I believe.

819
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: That I've never really bought into that trap game thing. Yeah.

820
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: In college football, I do.

821
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: Oh, in college I do. There's eighteen nineteen year olds.

822
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: If you easily take people lightly, if your pit and

823
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: you're playing Central Michigan and your WU and you're playing

824
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: Robert Morris, and then the next week's the backyard brawl,

825
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: sure totally. Oh yeah, but these guys are so professional,

826
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: they're so locked in.

827
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: And I bet even like the Georgia's and Ohio States

828
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: will tell you yeah, but we end up winning anyways,

829
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, Okay, the first quarter

830
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: was bad, but then.

831
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: We might not cover the forty four point.

832
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: Spread, right, but we took them lightly, but it doesn't matter.

833
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think basketball is absolutely that way,

834
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: like Duquine hangs with a a pit or what. I

835
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: don't know enough about basketball, but somebody knows well better

836
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: for a half or even three quarters, and then eventually

837
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 3: it's like I can't keep us up for sixty minutes,

838
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

839
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. Last one from Annie, this is right

840
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: up your rally, She says, I need your thoughts on

841
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: my idea of a Oddfather epic, a mashup of Godfather

842
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: one and two with bonus footage of Michael Offing the

843
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: guy who killed his first wife.

844
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: I think it exists.

845
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: Is that the like.

846
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: The the there's like you and I bonus you were

847
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 4: just talking about.

848
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: Code is different.

849
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: Code is that's like.

850
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 3: A recut of the third right, there is a version

851
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: where you watch it from de Niro, you know, like

852
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: chronologically and there's.

853
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Like, that's what she's talking about this.

854
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: I thought she made it sound like she came up

855
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: for the idea. Maybe that's just I just read No,

856
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: it's awesome, I mean, and there is like five bonus

857
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: things in there.

858
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: How long is it?

859
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it's one and two combined plus a

860
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: little bit. Isn't there one and two though?

861
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Or is it?

862
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: Ok it's been a while since I watched it that way.

863
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: It's great. And there's some scenes where veto as de Niro,

864
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 3: you know early Yeah, yeah, goes back to Cis and

865
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: whacks of people that killed his father. Yeah, people like that,

866
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: like so that there's.

867
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Some I need to I need to get on that.

868
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. She must not think she came up with this idea.

869
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: No, I just read it. Okay, I think I just

870
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: read it wrong.

871
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: It's the best way to watch the original ways flawless.

872
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: But I mean, sure, it's it's a cool way to

873
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: watch it, Okay. Instead of bouncing back to.

874
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: I was actually saying this to my wife just a

875
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: few days ago. And I know you love the Godfather.

876
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: So I've only ever watched the three Godfather movies one time,

877
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: and it was my freshman year of college.

878
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: When I was like nineteen, Okay, well the third nothing

879
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: like the first.

880
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: Thing I need to I need to. I need to

881
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: do this off season when I have time. And one

882
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: of the things that I like to do in the

883
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: off season is go back and watch old movies and

884
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: things like that and unplug from sports a little bit.

885
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no. I based a lot of my life

886
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: choices off of Godfather stuff that might have been like

887
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: right right, I mean, yeah, keep your friends closed for

888
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: your enemy's closer, and you know, learn to think of

889
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: those around you.

890
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: I think, is those around you think?

891
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: I love my son to no end, and he is

892
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: in the movies and he's watched many that I have,

893
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: but he hasn't. I mean that's a tough ask for

894
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: an eighteen year old. I mean it's long. Everyone kind

895
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: of looks the same and sounds the same. I mean

896
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: even now, I've seen him a million times, and I'll

897
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: get something out of it. Oh yeah, Oh that's what

898
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: you know. Clemenza meant by that, you know, right.

899
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: Brad tweets who starts more games this year? Mason Rudolph

900
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: or Shadoor Sanders And I'm hoping Mason starts none.

901
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: I hope not.

902
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: Knock on him.

903
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: There's only one way he starts.

904
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: Correct, and that's not good for the Steelers, whereas I

905
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: think start a game regardless. Yeah, and then Gabriel completely

906
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 2: blows the doors off.

907
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if they plan on it right now,

908
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: the Browns, but they have to know if they have

909
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: a quarterback in their building or not.

910
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Yes, if Gabriel's okay, okay, January rolls around, they know,

911
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: are we taking one with one of our high pits

912
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: or do we believe in one of these guys?

913
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: And I would think you need to give Sanders unless

914
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: Ifabriel's awesome, great, Sanders never sees a field, he's backup.

915
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: Maybe he's trade bait. And frankly, there's a lot of

916
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: teams out there that should call about Yeah, you know,

917
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: like you could do worse. But if Gabriel's just a

918
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: four or five out of ten for by rookie standards,

919
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: you might want to throw Sanders in there for last

920
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: month just to see. I mean, he's more talented.

921
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: I think that that should be the case.

922
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

923
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: Uh. Steeal a Nation nine to twenty tweets and says, Matt,

924
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: don't let Wes lie to you. He has a secret

925
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: love for Baker Mayfield deep down. Do you guys think

926
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: even when Alex Highsmith is back and healthy, we should

927
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: see an increase in her big snap count?

928
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about this, yeah, a couple of days. Yes, Yes,

929
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: you can't keep him off the field. Absolutely not like

930
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: totally in favor of high Smith. I'm not saying Highsmith's

931
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 3: a backup or anymore. He's the three, but I would

932
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: definitely incorporate a lot of snaps for herbig. I think

933
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: maybe less for what and Heighsmith?

934
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: You know I think so too.

935
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

936
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 2: Last one, Angry Bike Lane tweets and says, did Wes

937
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: really sneak in a materar could be back sooner? When

938
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: talking about the Red River rivalry yesterday.

939
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: Did you do that on purpose?

940
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

941
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Oh okay, I didn't.

942
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: You should say he did it on purpose?

943
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: I listen again. My thoughts on the University of Oklahoma

944
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: are very fractured. Okay, my dad, I don't know if

945
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: I've ever told you this before.

946
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: I say, why, what's your problem with Oklahoma?

947
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Because in the pre COVID years where w football was

948
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: still good, before we went on this seven year worst

949
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: stretch of football, we've played in fifty years. It was

950
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: like twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. We

951
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: would play Oklahoma in the last game of the year

952
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: and they'd be ranked third or fourth and we'd be

953
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: ranked fourteenth, and they'd beat the Craft in the better Yeah, yeah,

954
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: you know. So it's not that I hate him or anything,

955
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: but it's just, yeah, you know, there's a better program

956
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: than us. They beat the Craft out of us. But

957
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: my dad used to teach violin lessons in Norman every summer.

958
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma would bring him out for a couple of weeks.

959
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: He'd do like master classes at their music school. Oh okay,

960
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: my mom and I would go out and stay with them.

961
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: So actually enjoy by time there in the campus and

962
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: all that. But I like making sooner jokes when I can.

963
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: It's pretty you know nice.

964
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: You think I'm glad what we caught that I didn't

965
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 3: when we went dead alive.

966
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we'll see my tears sooner rather than later.

967
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely a reminder some big college football games to keep

968
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: an eye on. More of that, dude me as well

969
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: to watch. But that will do it for us today.

970
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody who hopped in on the tweets. Will

971
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: continue to try and do that on Thursdays as we

972
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: roll along. Big thanks to Bob Labriola for joining us,

973
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: to our producer uh mister TV Tyler V for making

974
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: us look pretty on YouTube, and a big shout out

975
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: to Swiss on Swiss himself, Matt Williamson.

976
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: I was born on sixty six. You know that. Yeah,

977
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: we've had six six love, I.

978
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Think in our you know, I know we've told this

979
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: story a million times and we got to get the

980
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: break here. But we would drive you and I and

981
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: Dale would drive out to the Combine for the last

982
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: seven or eight years together, five hours to Indy, five

983
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: hours back, and it never. At some point you and

984
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: I would start talking about hockey and drive down craze.

985
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: Hockey history is like the only time I talk hockey

986
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: all year.

987
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: That's it.

988
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: And He's like, oh my god.

989
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: I also learned Becauselemu just turned sixty last week. I

990
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: know him and Patrick Wall were born on the exact

991
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: same day. Isn't that wild? Like not different years apart,

992
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: right same day, Like maybe the best forward of all time,

993
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: maybe the best goalie of all time, same exact day.

994
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: That is pretty crazy. There's your random fun fact for

995
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: the week, But that will do it for us today.

996
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: We will be back tomorrow, five Star Friday, Full Brown's Preview,

997
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: all that good stuff. Thursday night or tonight between the

998
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: Eagles and the Giants. Can the Eagles get over that

999
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: first loss in ten months? Can the Giants get more

1000
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: belief in Jackson Dart. That'll be a fun one to

1001
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: watch that we will recap at some point tomorrow as well.

1002
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: But that'll do it for us today. Take care, everybody.

1003
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow. As always. You know

1004
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: where to find us. It's on your twenty four to

1005
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation

1006
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.