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<v Speaker 1>for the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise in the MCU,

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<v Speaker 1>including volumes one, two, add three. Hello, my name is

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<v Speaker 2>On this week's episode, we're going into space. It's Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>of the Galaxy, Baby im previously on, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>recapping and reflecting on the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise

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<v Speaker 2>thus far and getting you up to speed on where

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<v Speaker 2>all your favorite characters are in the airlock. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be talking Guardians of the Galaxy volume three, So if

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen it spoiler alah, go and see it

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<v Speaker 2>and then listen to this episode and in nerd out

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a relevantly spacey theory about Star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>from listener Tony I love.

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<v Speaker 1>It coming up previously on. First up in the previously on,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be looking back at the first two installments

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<v Speaker 1>in the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise and the MCU

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<v Speaker 1>to get you up to speed for Guardians of the

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<v Speaker 1>Galaxy three, and also check in on where the characters

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<v Speaker 1>from the Guardians team ended up after the very tie

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<v Speaker 1>ins at They appear in mostly two Yeah, mostly end Game,

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<v Speaker 1>Some thor Love and Thunder, and also of course the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas special.

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<v Speaker 2>Special Let's Do It. Let's Do It. God Is the

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxy Volume one introduced US two that at the time

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<v Speaker 2>extremely deep cut titular team. It was a bombastic space adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>There was as music listened to by the hero star Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>who was kidnapped as a child by space pirates known

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<v Speaker 2>as the Ravengers and was raised by their leader Yondu.

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<v Speaker 2>You may remember him as an adult. He's a quick

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<v Speaker 2>talking thief with quips for days, and on a routine

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<v Speaker 2>mission to steal a valuable artifact known as the Orb,

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<v Speaker 2>he becomes entangled with Gomora, the daughter of the tyrant Thanos.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember him remember him important in the MCU when she

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<v Speaker 2>is sent after him by a violent Cree alien known

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<v Speaker 2>as Ronan the Accuser. Lee Pace in the MCU.

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<v Speaker 1>Still great, doing fantastic things.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep espioning, He's Thespianing. Gamura and Quilla soon waylaid by

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<v Speaker 2>bounty hunters Groot a talking tree and Rocket Raccoon, a

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<v Speaker 2>gun toting raccoon. But then in the end they have

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<v Speaker 2>to come together to save Gomora from another strange alien

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<v Speaker 2>known as Drags the Destroyer, who wants to kill her

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<v Speaker 2>because his family was killed by Ronan the Accuser.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some interesting, some interesting interesting context for our for

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<v Speaker 1>uh Our Ronan the Accuser. On the es SO. Ronan

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<v Speaker 1>is a member of the Cree race. As an accuser

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<v Speaker 1>and important figure in the judicial process, but has broken

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<v Speaker 1>off from the Cree because they signed a pea Street

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't like, and so he's decided he's taken this

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<v Speaker 1>job to get a certain orb that contains a certain

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<v Speaker 1>gem for one Thanos, because Thanos has been colleckeding those

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<v Speaker 1>things big time collector. He wants all the gems. As

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<v Speaker 1>we all remember, the Infinity Stones's tasked, Ronan was doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ronan has taken the gig. But also he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the stone so that he can blow up

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<v Speaker 1>the treaty and decimate Zandar, the planet with which the

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<v Speaker 1>Cree have signed a treaty with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he wants to put the stone on his

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<v Speaker 2>super cool hammer and make a super powered hammer. Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember the first time watching this movie? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like, as MCU fans, the

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<v Speaker 2>first time watching God into the Galaxy was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a mind blowing experience. It was it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That that stage in the evolution of the MCU where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I can't believe they're doing this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was the real Obviously, putting all the Avengers together

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<v Speaker 1>in a team was a pretty big swing, creating a

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<v Speaker 1>shared universe as a big swing. But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>real heat check movie, where you know, the big criticism

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<v Speaker 1>of the MCU at launch was like, nobody cares about

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America, nobody cares about Iron Man, nobody cares about

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<v Speaker 1>the Hulk, and that was true. And let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody really, really, really nobody gave a shit about the

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<v Speaker 1>Guardians of the Galaxy and this is I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>fun if you are a true like Marvel Comics, Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>Cosmic Comics, NERD digging in the back issue, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is not even the original team. This is like the

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<v Speaker 1>team that emerges after Annihilation, Yeah, after a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>Cosmic Marvel crossovers. And it really felt like, God, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if people will like this. It'll be crazy

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<v Speaker 1>if people like this, and they and it was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>really super fun movie. Obviously, I think the music has

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<v Speaker 1>become a hallmark of the series and continues with Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>of the Galaxy three, and really they've expanded past the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties they were there into the nineties and the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousands now in Guardians three. That's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler, but just super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>What was do you what your thoughts were.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it at like a midnight screening I think,

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<v Speaker 2>or very late night screening at the Imax in London,

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<v Speaker 2>which at the time I think was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest screens in the world. And I remember that opening

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<v Speaker 2>so well with you know, Pias, He's going through space

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<v Speaker 2>and he's listening to his headphones and he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like kicking little lizards. I really came out of it like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>they star Wars the MCU, and like what I felt,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very enjoyable way. And this was pre

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<v Speaker 2>sequel trilogy, right, so it felt very different. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's wild to think this was only the fourth film

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<v Speaker 2>in phase two of the MCU.

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<v Speaker 1>So you say it was just.

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<v Speaker 2>A total tone shift. I think obviously like exploded James

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<v Speaker 2>Gunn into the stratosphere and yet made the music and

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<v Speaker 2>needle drops such a huge part of the MCU, which

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't really been a thing before because it was such

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<v Speaker 2>a score based, cinematic, operatic, serious take on the franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas this was much more pop culture reference heavy. You

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<v Speaker 2>had Peter who grew up in the eighties, so he

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<v Speaker 2>had these memories of an Earth that had never been updated,

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<v Speaker 2>which allowed for a lot of fun nostalgia. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just a totally different vibe for the MCU.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. So watching rewatching this, it

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<v Speaker 1>struck me that we don't know how a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gems ended up where they are, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just Peter is tasked by the broker, who was

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<v Speaker 1>just just a guy with a storefront shop, literally just

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with a jewelry store.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, it would be called to have an ORB.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you go get the ORB for me? And we

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<v Speaker 1>never really find out how it got there. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be so cool to find out at at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in the future how all the Infinity Gems got to

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<v Speaker 1>the places where they eventually got picked up at.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that. I think that could actually be

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<v Speaker 2>something really cool to do in the animated stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>they do it. There is a great bit of exposition

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<v Speaker 2>we get in this movie that kind of is the

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<v Speaker 2>next part the team. They team up together sort of unexpectedly,

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<v Speaker 2>this ragtag alliance of convenience, and then another one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite big swing weird moments from this movie. We

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<v Speaker 2>head to Nowhere, which is a floating outpost of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like ravagers and bad guys and anti heroes and

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<v Speaker 2>space pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of an open city in space inside the

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<v Speaker 1>head of a celestial.

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<v Speaker 2>Casually, just a floating celestial head. So note that eternals

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<v Speaker 2>lovers because you're hearing the word celestial for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time here. And Celestials actually end up playing a large

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<v Speaker 2>part in the ongoing Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, and

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<v Speaker 2>they end up going to the Collector played by Benicio

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<v Speaker 2>del Toro, who's so great in this movie. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>weird and he's so weird, and he's so over the

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<v Speaker 2>top and he is even more of a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>collecting things than Thanos, and he does that great one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite MCU exposition dumps where he explains the

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<v Speaker 2>histories of the Infinity Gems and how they were created.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it. You get the millenniare year old history

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're just here. I feel like, let's explore that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would absolutely love to know what if they've been

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<v Speaker 2>up to. Who had him before? We know it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Warlock like in the comics. Yeah, how did it

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<v Speaker 2>end up on moregg mm hm? Who had it? What

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<v Speaker 2>were they doing with it? Who put it in this

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<v Speaker 2>nice little orb? So Yeah, they go and see the

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<v Speaker 2>Collector and we get a very good info dump. We

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<v Speaker 2>learn about the Power Gem. It's very powerful, give you

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<v Speaker 2>almost infinite powers, and if you have them all then

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<v Speaker 2>of course we know you can snap out half of

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<v Speaker 2>the universe. Spoiler alert. That happened. They got a battle Ronan.

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<v Speaker 2>Ronan wants the Power Gem for himself, but he's also

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<v Speaker 2>consistently snitching to Thanos about the Guardians, so Thanos kind

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<v Speaker 2>of has a good idea of what's going going on.

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<v Speaker 2>They ultimately head back to Zander, as you mentioned, where

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people thought they were gonna see Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>Fillion as Nova. It didn't happen, but we did get

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<v Speaker 2>to see the Nova Corps in one of the epic

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<v Speaker 2>things falling out of the sky third act battles in

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel History. It's still one of the most impressive ones. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a I have a note for all

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<v Speaker 1>super villains, obviously pointedly Ronan the Accuser in Guardian the

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<v Speaker 1>Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy Volume one, but also General

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<v Speaker 1>Zod in Man of Steel. If you're gonna destroy a planet,

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere and destroy it. You don't don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>like the Capital City where all the military forces are.

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<v Speaker 2>Like make it, do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I understand like this was an act of humorist by Ronan.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to like make a big speech before he

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<v Speaker 1>did all the shit. But like, go to some go

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<v Speaker 1>to the middle of the sucking ocean and.

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<v Speaker 2>Destroy take some notes from the Death Star, destroy it

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<v Speaker 2>from far away.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do something you don't need to get on the.

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<v Speaker 2>On the planet and then ultimately anywhere, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>beaten in a dance battle with Peter Quill a very

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<v Speaker 2>famous EMCU moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is honestly a mistake that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>super villains make. Mephisto has done this, you know, name

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<v Speaker 1>War has done it. They always invade like New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the Avengers, the x Men. Everybody lives here,

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<v Speaker 1>live there, like please, it's somewhere's the middle of nowhere destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Physical it's definitely the physical version of monologuing. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell somebody your plan before you've enacted it, and

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<v Speaker 2>don't go to the central city, especially here where as

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<v Speaker 2>we see there are like thousands of Nova court ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is like a heavily defended place. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course you know spoiler alert, but it is an

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<v Speaker 2>empty movie and it's not Infinity War. The Guardians come

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<v Speaker 2>out on top and as little dance battle. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a little dance dance battle, which is one of Again

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<v Speaker 2>these are those hallmarks. It's interesting because it's so sincerely

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<v Speaker 2>its stylized that I don't know if it's full camp,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are definitely campier elements to this movie than

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the MCU movies. Having a dance battle,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of ongoing joke about the headphones, the tapes,

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<v Speaker 2>the music, Peter's nostalgia. His ship is called the Milano,

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<v Speaker 2>though I will say on merchandise, including the recent Lego release,

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<v Speaker 2>they call it the Guardian Ship. So I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>Alyssa Milano sent them a little letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I will say that Ronan, I mean Lee paces

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<v Speaker 1>straight out camp in this movie. Oh yeah, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>every every line reading is just so insan.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing when he's chewing every piece of scenery?

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<v Speaker 2>God with his full six and a half foot stature

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<v Speaker 2>and his thespian training. Lovely pace still blows my mind

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<v Speaker 2>every day when I think that he was in the

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<v Speaker 2>MCU and this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just such a you stead accused your rich in peace

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<v Speaker 1>treaty will not save you.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be the tinder on which you burn. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing like a dramatic glamorous hood and he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a giant hammer. He's really doing the most in a

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<v Speaker 2>delightful fashion. And as the movie comes to an end,

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<v Speaker 2>we learn an important plot point for Guardians of the

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxy volume two that Yondu didn't just kidnap Peter for

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<v Speaker 2>no reason. It was not random, It was not a

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<v Speaker 2>mistaken identity, which I think was kind of the vibe

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<v Speaker 2>that Peter had been told. In fact, the night Peter's

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<v Speaker 2>mother died of a brain tumor and Peter ran out

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<v Speaker 2>and was so upset he was kidnapped by Yondu because

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<v Speaker 2>to have been hired by Pizza's mysterious father who happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be a powerful deity. And Pizza now learns this

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<v Speaker 2>shocking fact and we head into the wilds of Gudians

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<v Speaker 2>of the Galaxy volume two. I mean, this movie made

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<v Speaker 2>so much money for the movie, an incredible seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy three million dollars worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the moment when Groot creates the group

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<v Speaker 1>ball to save everybody, It still gets me it's and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so beautiful in there with the little flowers and

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<v Speaker 1>his I think they've made him like meaner ever since

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<v Speaker 1>he got reduced to a twig. Like he had this

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<v Speaker 1>very placid and gentle look in his eyes in the

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<v Speaker 1>first movie. And it's you know, when they're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>inside the group, Ball and Rocket his leg but you'll die,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and don't do this, and it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>you just look at Grout's face and he's so at

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<v Speaker 1>peace with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is just like a wonderful moment, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I'm so glad you brought that up, because

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<v Speaker 2>that actually is such a vital part of why I

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<v Speaker 2>think these films have become so popular. It is this bombastic, silly,

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<v Speaker 2>camp colorful adventure much like the old space adventure serial

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. But it has a very effective emotional heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a lot of that comes from Group,

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<v Speaker 2>from Rocket, from the relationships of this found family, from Drax,

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<v Speaker 2>who lost his family and then comes in and tries

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild even though all he really wants to do

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<v Speaker 2>is kill the man who killed his family. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love that, yeah, because that's the line I think when

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<v Speaker 2>when Group says we are group.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, setting the stage for something that

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<v Speaker 1>happens in Guardians and twist letting you know that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants to. Groot does have a somewhat larger vocabulary,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sort of cannon in the comics. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when he appears in I believe it's Annihilation conquest, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is an annihilation? Yeah, it's Annihilation conquest right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>He is like saying full sentences and stuff before the

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<v Speaker 1>movie came out, and then all of a sudden it's

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<v Speaker 1>just iron grout.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a very interesting evolution of the character. And

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<v Speaker 2>the version that we know as the Gardens of the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians of the Galaxy is the Annihilation Conquest version. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting because that's two thousand and eight and

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<v Speaker 2>their original team was nineteen sixty nine, you know, created

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<v Speaker 2>by some legends in comics like Gene Colan and you

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<v Speaker 2>know Roy Thomas was in there. Arnold Drake was the

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<v Speaker 2>one who wrote the first issue, and then obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>just we always have to shout him out. It was

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Mantlow, who who was a co creator of Rocket Raccoon,

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<v Speaker 2>who sadly was in a hit and run accident many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and is still in care at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>of his brother, and you can go to the Hero

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<v Speaker 2>Initiative and find out ways to support him and other

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<v Speaker 2>comic book creators, because these movies do not exist without them,

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<v Speaker 2>and ol Mantlow is like a huge part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardian's legacy, especially when it comes to Volume three because

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<v Speaker 2>of the importance of Rocket Raccoon. But before then, it

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty seventeen. It was three years after Guardians of

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<v Speaker 2>the Galaxy Volume one, which was originally just called The

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians of the Galaxy but is now retroactively called Volume one,

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<v Speaker 2>as we are now with Guardians of the Galaxy Volume

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<v Speaker 2>two mixtape relevant now right Rewatching this movie, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>writing a recap for it is like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest things I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna understand nuts movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely bonkers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Kurt Russell so much, so I'm just so

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<v Speaker 2>happy to always watch a Cut Russell movie. But I

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<v Speaker 2>will begin with this sentence that sums up the energy

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<v Speaker 2>of this movie specifically, and also quite a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the energy of Volume three. While protecting some magical batteries

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<v Speaker 2>for the Golden Aliens known as the Sovereign, in order

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<v Speaker 2>to free Nebula from the aliens crutches. The Guardians are

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<v Speaker 2>saved from a battle with their supposed Sovereign allies by

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<v Speaker 2>an unknown Batton. It is led by the celestial Ego

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<v Speaker 2>known in the comics as Ego the Living Planet, who

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<v Speaker 2>is literally a planet in the comics, who soon reveals

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<v Speaker 2>himself to be Peter's biological father. As they head to

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<v Speaker 2>Ego's homeworld, Aisha, the Golden Skinned Lady played by Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>de Becky, who is the leader of the Sovereign the

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<v Speaker 2>High Priestess and is very relevant for Gardians of the

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxy volume three, she hires Yon Dou and his Ravagers

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<v Speaker 2>turned down the Guardians. Important to note here something Jason

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<v Speaker 2>has pointed out to me that I had forgotten. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason she can hire Yon Do is because Yonder and

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<v Speaker 2>his Ravagers have been thrown out of the Ravager community.

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<v Speaker 2>Why for trafficking children. For trafficking children, and not only

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<v Speaker 2>trafficking them, but trafficking them to their deaths. You ain't

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<v Speaker 2>dressed like us, but you'll never hear the Lords of Freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you die?

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<v Speaker 3>Yon?

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<v Speaker 2>The cord will never flesh over your greed. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>And that and that is the car a Gourd played

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<v Speaker 4>by Sylvester Stallone who summarily ejects Yandu from the Ravager

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<v Speaker 4>community for being a serial trafficker of.

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<v Speaker 1>Children to any chilanet who end up dead?

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<v Speaker 2>How many children?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at the end of this movie and this

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<v Speaker 1>in the final third of this movie, you will see

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<v Speaker 1>a pile of bones. Who are the children who, unlike Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>did not survive being trafficked. Well, he never delivered Peter

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<v Speaker 1>to Ego, but you know you delivered the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And this pile of bones, folks, you've heard me talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this before.

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<v Speaker 2>The pile of bones. It's immens It's like forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet high, maybe maybe ninety one hundred feet wide. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a pile like it's got to contain certainly thousands

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<v Speaker 1>now you might say thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Ego said it at least thousands, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And now now many have said to me, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in an attempt to you know, to absolve Yandu quite

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<v Speaker 1>long theologists. I get it, and I get it because

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, they make Yandu is the father figure this

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<v Speaker 1>movie and he's he's he's actually a good guy. Throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this series, they point out that surely

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<v Speaker 1>Ego had other traffickers, which is probably true, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just do the math, it seems like unless he,

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<v Speaker 1>unless YANDU was rounding up like one hundred at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably would have taken too long. So maybe Yandu

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<v Speaker 1>is only responsible for like twenty twenty percent of the pile,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is still so many.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, I would then counter with what is the minimum

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<v Speaker 1>number of child children that you could deliver exactly death?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you are enough, You're fine. I will also say,

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<v Speaker 2>as proven by the existence continued existence of Peter Quill,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very easy for Yondu to actually save one

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<v Speaker 2>of those children and not deliver them to Ego. It

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<v Speaker 2>took you like thirty years to find this guy. Yonder

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<v Speaker 2>really could have been not delivering.

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<v Speaker 1>The to say apparently he was getting them too old,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the implication is, but he kept Peter

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<v Speaker 1>alive because Peter was small enough to like wriggle through

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<v Speaker 1>like ducts and different things.

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<v Speaker 2>He was used as a thief.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess what they're implying there is that the

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<v Speaker 1>other kids that Yondu delivered the ego were maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit older, like, oh yeah, young adults side not

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<v Speaker 1>quite so.

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<v Speaker 2>Acceptable trafficking age, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, legally, Yeah, yeah, if you're killed by your father,

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<v Speaker 1>who is an omnipotent celestial being, when you're an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say as if.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a kid, Yandu might be redeemed in the

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<v Speaker 1>course of Guardian's Galaxy two and three. That may have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but he'll never hear the horns of freedom when he dies,

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<v Speaker 1>and the colors of a gourd, the colors of a

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 1>gourd will never flash over his grave.

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<v Speaker 2>They will never flash over his grave. And that's all

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I have to say about that. But that's what we

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 2>have to say about that. This is a movie that's

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<v Speaker 2>all about daddy issues. You've got Themura Nebula who are

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of battling each other. Nebula wants to kill Thanos

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and they end up in this fight that ends luckily

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 2>for everyone in a sisterly reunion of some kind. You

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<v Speaker 2>also have the fact that Yondu, who is sent by Aisha,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually want to give over Quill because that is

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<v Speaker 2>his you know, he he has love for him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy. Human trafficker, but a good guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course the biggest daddy issues belong to Peter, who

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<v Speaker 2>learns that not only is his father Ego omnipotent super being,

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<v Speaker 2>but also a giant dick, just a super dick.

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Multiple time child murderer, and also the reason that his

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>mom is his dad, but the reason his mom died.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we learn that not only has Ego spent millennia

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<v Speaker 2>traveling the universe trying to sire children so he can

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>terraform planets with the celestial.

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<v Speaker 1>Powers, very very rucio.

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<v Speaker 2>Very titan ish, and he is going to find the

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>child who can harness the celestial powers and the two

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>of them can terraform the universe in Ego's nightmarish, delightful

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Kurt Russell form, And as Jason pointed out, heartbreakingly, it

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<v Speaker 2>is also revealed that Ego, for some reason, gave Peter's

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>mama brain humor evil. I mean, already very pful behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>but seems extra evil like unnecessary, unnecessary, unnecessary bad times,

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 2>so all bad. And if that wasn't bad enough, short car,

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess what we already talked about it Jong Du Piasa.

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<v Speaker 2>The dad was helping his real dad kill all these children.

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>So no bad times. You know what I realized?

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So much evil happens in the MCU, and who must

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>make MCU because of the gig economy, just like just

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the sovereign. You have this massive fleet. Just go get

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Peter Quill?

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Why are you? I get it?

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Yon Due knows him, But yeah, why don't you just

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like be like, hey, where would we where would he go?

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>And then act on that information to do it yourself? Ego,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 1>you are immensely powerful. We've seen you move around in

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>human form, go to Earth and meet up with Peter's

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<v Speaker 1>mom and go, and clearly you went to other planets

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<v Speaker 1>did the same thing. Why why do you need all

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<v Speaker 1>these like Postmates deliveries of kids?

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Just go do it. You could use your powers to

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>summon them to you or something. I'm sure there is,

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're just gonna trust some random guy and like

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>a flying kind of junk trap I don't know. And look,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>look what happened.

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 1>The one kid who you were looking for is the

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<v Speaker 1>one kid that YANDU is like, I'm gonna keep this one.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>And not only that, but you're so bad at planning

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that that like stopped you in your tracks. You were just.

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Spinning your wheels for years and years after waiting to

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:36.360
<v Speaker 1>find Peter Quill and his little Zoon and.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>The big I would say, the big introduction here is

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>not Ego. As much as I would have loved to

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 2>see Cut Russell become a super big bad in the MCU,

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I love cut Russell. I love Ego The Living Planets,

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>such a weird character. The real heavy hit hair is Mantis.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Mantis. Mantis for the comics. Was delighted to

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<v Speaker 1>see her come to life in the MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just such a delightful performance by Palm clem teeth

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and just a wonderful kind character whose powers does an

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 2>EmPATH allow her to control people? We will see her

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>play an absolutely immense part in Infinity War, only to

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>be thwarted by the idiocy of Peter Quill.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh we were, we were right there, Peter Rat.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>We ain't gonna wrap no issue, stop it, no blip, no, no,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>five years. It was about head. Embarrassing, embarrassing. It makes

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 2>me so angry. So the good thing is because Mantis

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 2>is such an EmPATH, she connects with drags, creating one

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>of the best buddy duos in the MCU. It was

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 2>delightful to see them in the Holiday special together, and

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>she reveals Ego's full plan the guard This gives the

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Guardians kind of upper hand, and while Ego is helping

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Peter harness celestial powers which are so immense that they

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>would immediately make Peter the most powerful person in the MCU,

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>they end up battling. He uses the powers to distract Ego.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Ego is destroyed, the planet is destroyed, and because Ego

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 2>has destroyed, Peter's powers are gone, his celestial powers, because

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 2>he'd be too overpowered. It would be two powerful.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this, because clearly the powers

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>are gone, but his celestial hybrid physiology is clearly quite durable.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it was. His physiology was noted by the

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Nova Corps. That's where it kind of first came from.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>So it is there, and I do think in God,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>it's some of the better and best. Actually, we kind

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of talked about this and we'll talk about it more

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff in volume three. We do get to see him

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 2>kind of have a super hero movements and almost like

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>my favorite one of my favorite books and TV series,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Shadow and Bone. There's a great way that magic works

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>in that and you will see people who are good

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>at shooting guns, and the gun shooting goodness comes from

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 2>their skills in magic. Kind of like wanted having, you know,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 2>bullet power curving as a superpower. So I kind of

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>think that that inherent superheroic nature and celestial physiology. I

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>like that that's a good catch. It's still that he's

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 2>not celestial fully now, and he can't be like blasting planets,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 2>but he's definitely got a little bit more than.

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Your average He does average guy. He does at the

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>end of Guardians survive excuse me. In the middle of

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Guardians Survive the vacuum of space, and he does survive

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>many spoiler, he is a He continues to be able

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to be in the vacuum of space for a extended

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>period of time.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and sadly, Peter does not only have to say

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>goodbye to his biological father, who was a super dick

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>so no one misses him, sorry, but he has to

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>say goodbye to Yondu, who sacrifices himself to save Peter

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in an ultimate moment of what the MCU sees is redemption,

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>what we see as good for you but doesn't mean

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you didn't traffic thousands of children.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>You did travel in his final moments. One can only

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hope that in addition to Peter, the many many other

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>nameless children run through his mind run through his mind

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in the final seconds of his life, and we thank

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>him for his sacrifice.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is really where we get our core

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Guardians team. Even we have Mantis joins and we end up.

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Even though Nebula heads off to kill Thanos, which leads

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>us to the kind of events of the big Infinity

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>one endgame, she is already now part of the team,

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and you kind of have that core crew going forward

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>into the rest of the MCU and the wider Marvel galaxy.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>That takes us to the Non Guardians movie. Now, uh,

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>where these various characters ended up. The first one where

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>we see some Guardians characters is Infinity War first Non

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Guardians movie. We see them in a mission to take

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>down Thanos. They are the away team. Basically they go

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to Titan with Tony, with Peter Parker, with doctor Strange.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>You have Mantis, you have Drax, you have Goamura, you

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>have Peter Quill and they again almost pull it off. Yes,

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they come very very close.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>They come very very close. But it's Peter Quill. He

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>has a lot problem because prior to this, Gomore has

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>gone missing. Viewers know that heartbreakingly, she has been taken

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>by her father Thanos, to be thrown off the cliffs

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>of Vormer in a sacrifice for the soul Stone. As

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanos told us, what did it cost him? Me everything?

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's feeling sad about it. He wishes he

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to kill his daughter, but he does, and

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in that shocking one of the most annoying moments in

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the MCU. I was very happy to hear that James

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Gunn did not believe that this was the route the

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>character would have taken. In the press tour in the

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>lead up to Guardians the Galaxy volume three, Peter Quil

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>finds out from an EmPATH possessed Thanos that Gomora is dead,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 2>so he punches him in the head. We are we

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 2>are so close that the glove is coming off, the

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>gauntlet is coming off. There will be no click, there

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>will be no blip.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I just want to shout out Mantis in this scene

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>because it is her. You really get a feeling for

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the depths of her power. She's able to keep Thanos,

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>who is unjust like you know, he beat up the Hulk,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he beat up Thor's. He's a match for he has

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>many stones. Yeah, without you, without the stones, he's a

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>match for almost any of our heroes. And Mantis has

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>him on the ropes for a while, just like keep.

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Baren drags Ultimate Team up. It's working, it's.

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Really, really, really great, so shouts to Mantis. It didn't

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.719
<v Speaker 1>work because Peter lost his shit and I get it.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>It's heartbreaking to find out that you're the woman you

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>love was thrown off a cliff on a mirror in

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>order to relate to book and in Finney's stone. But

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>but just let us beat him right now.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Be angry afterwards, take the take, take the gold let,

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and then do it. But no, he blows up. All

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>goes horribly wrong. The only other member that wasn't on

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the team at that point, in that very moment, Nebula,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>had been being tortured by Fanos, but she manages to

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>escape because he kind of puts the Chittarian charge and

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>as we know, Tari can't really get shit done, so

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>she escapes, teams up and she is one of the

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>few members of the Guardians who does not end up

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>getting dusted as we head into endgame.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Do let me ask you this, Do robots, do androids

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>get dusted? M just just just synthetic life. I'm not

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>saying it's not life, but I'm saying, would Ultron get dusted?

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Would you Acosta get dusted? Would Danger the uh, the

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>sentient human formed embodiment of the Danger Room get dusted?

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. In MCU canon, I cannot.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Really would Cyborg get dusted just the human part?

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Everything I believe, would.

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Death Luck get dusted? Just the human part them.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Is too it adds many more rules. I feel like

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 2>in the comics when the blit happens, it's just you

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>just eradicate life, right, and it's just Iologically he wants

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to he wants to impressed death, he wants to sleep

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>with his girlfriend who say and note him, and he

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>does it to impress her. I feel like in the

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>movie's sentient life is a grey area because we don't

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like vision seems to still exist, and that could be

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 2>that he didn't never like a loophole. Really, Nebula is

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 2>a loophole, I think because she actually that is such

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 2>a great point. She is essentially her father's own downfall

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>because he has tortured her so much, replaced her eyes

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>as a form of torture. We see him pulling her

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>apart and kind of going through her memories, and Karen

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Gillen is so brilliant in that role. I really love

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Nebula and that is such a great catch because you're

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. She essentially becomes a loophole, and then she

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>goes on to join the Avengers in endgame and become

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>a primary part of taking down her father.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is a huge and obviously her connection with her

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>alternate self basically sparks the final big fight on Yeah. Second,

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the Avengers compound post.

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Sister Gomora, you know she is the one who's able

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to make that connection with her and put her on side.

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Next, there's Drax, who we last saw. Of course he

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>got uh, he got dusted very back. He uh put

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>put in a great showing during the big fight at

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the Avengers compound against Santos and his forces, and uh

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we see him stab one of those big Chatari beasts

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>in the back, among other things. He's a very very

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>tough guy and later we see him in the Guardians

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of Galaxy Christmas schedule as part of the hair Brain

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>scheme to kidnap Kevin Bacon in order to cheer up

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Peter Quill, who is very very very depressed because one

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend Gemora died and two she came back but

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the all version from where they were together and doesn't

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>know him and has no interest in ever getting to

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>know him. Yeah, which is and honestly fair, because it's

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>such a weird what a weird imagine coming to an

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>alternate world and being like, hey, by the way, we

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get together later and you're just like, I can't know.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And also like he is annoying. Let's be real, he

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have He's not He's not coming at it with

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like a romantic or interesting sensibility.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, were you know, having just watched the Guardians

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>movies back to back, man, Peter, Peter makes a lot

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of his galactic body count in that first movie. He

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is just talking about it, talking about the furious scars

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that he has all over his body as a result

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of these galactic dalliances with various alien women.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we get that really famous scene where he's you know,

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>he goes up in the ship and kind of flies

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 2>around crazy and then the girl comes out of his

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and he'd forgotten she was there, you know, So Pete,

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>come on, man, what are you doing. Oh? Also, speaking

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Holiday Special, very important thing to note it that,

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>honestly I still think is actually my favorite Guardian's thing.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. The vibe was just so good and

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>that was a massive moment for Mantis, who, again, like

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, absolutely smashed it. Almost defeated Dan as Peter

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:27.399
<v Speaker 2>fucked it up. Comes back after the blip and we

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 2>see her really coming into her own with Dras during

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the Christmas Special or the Holiday Special, they go on

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 2>this funny kidnapping adventure, but really the big moment is

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>that she reveals that she's actually Peter's half sister. She

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>is also the daughter of Ego, so that was a

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>big beat for her and it explains why her powers

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 2>are so intense. Makes a lot of sense.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.919
<v Speaker 1>Next up, our good friend Rocket Raccoon played a very

0:37:56.000 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>very important role in Infinity War, goes off with Thor

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>in order to create a new Uru metal weapon, this

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>time an X.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They go off to Nider and they create this X.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Rocket then plays again in a really important role during

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the final battle.

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>He does not.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Get snapped notably, and then in the time between Endgame

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and Love and Thunder is running around in space with Thor,

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>who is kind of like an adopted member of the

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>team for a period.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we really thought we were going to get the

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 2>as Guardians of the Galaxy and it didn't really happen,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>but we got to kind of tease it, and then

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 2>we got to see it a little bit with that

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>one great opening fight scene in Love and Thunder, And obviously,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 2>again going back to Holiday Special, it's Rocket who really

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>befriends Cosmo. Cosmo first appeared in the post credit scene

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>for Guardians Galaxy Volume one with Howard the Dark as

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 2>part of the Collector's collection, but we really get to

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 2>see Cosmo kind of be borret into the fold in

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the Holiday Special, which becomes a major part of volume three.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>We should Yeah, so I guess should we talk about

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Cosmo briefly?

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>First, let's so Cosmo, of course the space dog sent

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>up by the Russians during the early days of the

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:23.919
<v Speaker 1>Space Race. It just kind of was floating around up there,

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:28.479
<v Speaker 1>was picked up by the collector who loves weird one

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>off kitchy things, and here is a dog in a

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Russian dog and Space Collector loved it, picked him up,

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>picked her up, experimented on her, and basically gave her

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>full human level intelligence, sentience, and an ability to communicate

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>both with her mind and to and to use telekinetic powers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a freak a cool like up Doug style,

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, speaking calla which really really gets used well

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>in in volume volume three. I love to see Cosmo.

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the coolest asmu's fintasts.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>That's such a cool bit of real history kind of reimagined,

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>like what if she wasn't just sacrificed for the space

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 2>race and instead became this super cool hero. And I

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>guess that's what Guardians does so well, because I mean

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the member that we have yet to talk about what

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 2>he got up to after, you know volume two is Grout,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 2>who is literally a tree but has become one of

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean sorry, I shouldn't say that he is an

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>alien species that looks like a tree. Super yeah, yeah, Superflora.

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>But two fans and people out there, this is a

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 2>really one of the weirdest, big strange MCU characters and

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 2>comic book characters. And the thing I love about it

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 2>is like you see kids now who are going around

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and they are wearing like a little groot on their shoulder. Yeah, Like,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>this is a character that speaks so much to who

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and what the Guardians are and why they've become so popular.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of mind blowing. Especially like this is you know,

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about a Stanley, Stanley's brother Larry Lee but

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>and Jack Kirby creation. This is like old school weird,

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 2>super iconic creator stuff. And he has become one of

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the most beloved characters in the whole of the MCU.

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And among our h our qure MCU characters. Is notable

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>for basically being unkillable.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. He's I think it's fair to

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>say he's immortal.

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>If there is even a splinter of groot that remains

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Groot lives on, like you have to chop up his

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>entire body and like incinerate it.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>At the highest possible temperature, because I don't I don't

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 2>believe a little bit of even I think a little

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 2>bit of ash. If there was just a tiny bit

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of liquid still in there, you could probably plant it

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and get annualized. I think certainly if he creates pollen

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 2>and the pollen flies off I think he comes back

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>like just you know, we've seen him reduced to essentially

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>a twig, we see him grow up from a baby.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 2>In Guardians three, he is even more able to like

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 2>morph his body than ever before and.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Essentially unkilled. You can't kill Groot cannot die.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's a key character, fun character. He's what's

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>he been up to. He was in thor Love and Thunder.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You got to see him there. We're seeing in the

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Guardians of Galaxy Holiday Special, freaking people out with his

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 2>buff kind of early twenties body, and obviously as well,

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>he's so popular that he even got his own Baby

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Grew animated series, which is very delightful and not necessarily

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 2>like important canon, but just very cute. So that's what

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>they've all been up to, and now they're headed to

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>old Guardians the Galaxy Volume three.

0:42:51.840 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it up next, Guardians the Galaxy Volume three,

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. Depending on when you're

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>hearing this, it might come out the very day that

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you are hearing this release eight May fifth. It is

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the second film in Phase five of the MCU, after

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>ant Man in the Wasp Quantumnia, and we're going to

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>recap it now off the top of our heads, wow

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>vere fo because obviously we saw it in a screening.

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>We're not able to take notes, have devices out and

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>it's been a few days. But here we go as

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>we attempt to do this. So we open on nowhere,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>which is now the headquarters of the Guardians of the Galaxy.

0:43:53.880 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>The Guardians have opened a kind of bar slash headquarter base, like.

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Like p I office. You can come and hire a guardian.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 1>What you all you the Guardians to do stuff as

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>we saw, you know, just like we saw the opening

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of Guardians too, where you know, they're hired by the

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>sovereign to uh to basically kill the battery eating monsters.

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could hire them out depending on.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Parents and what the rates are.

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the thing. Peter Quill has fallen into substance

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>of abuse. He is depressed because again Gomura was killed

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>by her father Thanos, and then Gamura came back. But

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not but it's alternate version. Gomora, who from the past,

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>who never had a relationship with him, doesn't remember him

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and is not interested in having a relationship with him,

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and basically Peter treats her as if she died, which

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>she did. She did die, so he's basically acting like

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>she's she's she's dead and he's mourning her. But the

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>alternate version Gomora remained in this timeline and is now

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>running around with the Ravagers.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Pias having a rough time of it. He is

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 2>so wasted in that little bar that we begin the

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>movie with Rocket listening to Creep by radio Head as

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 2>all of this is going on. He has taken Pete's

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>beloved zoon. That's how out of it Pieter is. He's

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>not even looking off to the zoon.

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>So once again, it's a gig economy in space. And

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the High Evolutionary, who is the big bad of this

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>movie and is a mad scientist, genius level genetic madman

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>who also has like various corporations that are made up

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 1>of his creations and has even created entire worlds, has

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>tasked the Sovereign and our good friend Aisha, who we

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>learn here are actually a creation of the High Evolutionary.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>The High Evolutionary created the entire people and world of

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the Sovereign has tasked Ayisha with getting back his most

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>prized creation, and that is Rocket Raccoon, who we see

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.439
<v Speaker 1>in flashbacks the things that Rocket endured throughout this movie

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>at the hands of the high evolutionary and let's stop

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 1>here to talk about that, because it is bracing.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Folks.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.760
<v Speaker 1>We know a lot of parents listen to this, listen

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, and certainly you're thinking, oh, man, my

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>kid loves Guardians one and loved Guardians two. I would say,

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>if your kid is like, let's say, younger than thirteen,

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe younger than eleven, what would you say.

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I'd say it all depends on the capacity that your

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 2>kid has for watching animals in trauma. I feel like

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 2>it's very specific. I watched a lot of horror films

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, Yeah, but I was devastated by, you know,

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Warship Down.

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>This is very much like watershiped Down, Ship Down, the

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>huge animals getting put through terrible, terrible things at the

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>hands of one of the most evil characters that we've

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 1>seen at the FC.

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 2>If you are somebody who uses the website does a.

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Dog Die, you will likely.

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Have issues watching this movie. It has a very vigorous

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and visceral representation of animals being tested on, of animals

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 2>being harmed, and some animals rip to those animals sadly

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>being killed.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Animals do die.

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>In animals do die and fictionally, fictionally CGI animals made

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 2>by the hard working VFX people at the prop store.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe yes. And I will tell you as a kid,

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as a as a person who has a child, rented

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Watership Down because I saw cute bunnies on the cover

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of the VHS and thought this will be great cute

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>bunnies and was really really messed up for a little

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>while after watching that film. I could imagine, if you're

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a young kid and you love cute animals, that this

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 1>is a rocky raccoon or rocket raccoon. This is going

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to be this is going to be a hard watch. Also,

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say as a person, I had to I

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>had to delay my screening because my dog got spade

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>on the first night of the screening, so I defined

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it one this second night, and so going to that

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>movie while my.

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Dog was recovering from surgery was really rough. It was rough,

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>It really rough. It's it's definitely very much in that

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 2>horror movie Vein. And I would also say, you know,

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>far less importantly, but just have to put out there.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 2>If you're a fan of the comic book version of

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the High Evolutionary. You will likely be shocked because this

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>version is very, very, very evil. The High Evolutionary has

0:48:53.880 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of problems, but this is a very This

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>is a villain who, by the time you inevitably watch

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>him defeated, you are happy. It's extremely cathotic. You love

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 2>to see it.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that, yeah, And like it's a good point, Rosie,

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 1>because the comics version of the High Evolutionary is a

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>very frosty, remote, like emotionally unavailable, cerebral, kind of prefessorial,

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of semi villain. I wouldn't kill him, an out

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and out villain. But the movie version of the High

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Evolutionary is period but a bit a basic, like a

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>raving madman, like a stark, raving madman who's even his

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like top lieutenants and assistants are like destrified, like on

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the edge of losing it. Okay, So the High Evolutionary

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>hires the Sovereign and our good friend Nisha and her

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>newly hatched Adam Warlock.

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>You may remember from the post credit scene of Guardian's

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Galaxy volume.

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Two, who's been hatched. He is fully presenting as an adult,

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but has the intellectual abilities well of basically like a

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe like a twelve year old.

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a baby. He is a baby, but he

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:29.240
<v Speaker 2>is a baby. He's really stupid. Yes, it's a very

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 2>he's a he's a himbo, and it's gonna be a

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>very controversial read on one of the most powerful characters

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 2>in Marvel Comics history. Your gig, your gig economy question

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 2>is right, Your point is right. Do not hire the

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>baby alien even though he's very powerful, he doesn't know

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.279
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing.

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know what he's doing, folks. So they hire

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Aisha and she sends h Adam Warlock to go pick

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>up Rocket in order to return him to the High Evolutionary,

0:50:58.040 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>who is threatened to wipe out the sovereign if they

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>are not successful. So Adam Warlock got flies to nowhere

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is just a wrecking shop all in the streets, destroys

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the Guardian's bar slash Base, is fighting with Nebula, is

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 1>fighting with Drax, is fighting with everybody, and long story short,

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>they fight him off, but Rocket is very, very seriously

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 1>injured in the scrap and unfortunately they can't fix They

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>can't fix them, They can't do any medical care on

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>him because there is a kill switch inside of his

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:44.720
<v Speaker 1>chest that is copyright registered, copyright protected to ORG Corp,

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the main corporate entity, the CEO of which is the

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>High evolutionaiy.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 2>So basically they have.

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>To find the you know, the unlock key at corporate

0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.959
<v Speaker 1>headquarters of Org Corp in order to save Rocket's life.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Now we're on this mission, the Guardians enlist Gomora, who

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>has been running around with her with her ravagers. They

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>actually invade the Guardian ship at one point and they

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:15.919
<v Speaker 1>convince her, hey, let's team up. You want to break

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>into org Corp because you and the Ravagers want to

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>steal a bunch of like really really expensive and rare

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 1>corporate ip that the High Evolutionary has created, and we

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 1>want to save Rocket. So will you help us? And

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the answer is yes, So the Guardians for money. So

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians plus Gomora break into org Corp. And it's

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it is a feast for the odds.

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is one of my favorite parts of the movie.

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 2>We get a classic powerful James gun needle drop, we

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>get space Hog and it's playing as they wear these

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>rainbow colored face suits and kind of a little bit

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 2>ether and Or Corp is very fun because it's a

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>organic space, not a sentient being, but an organic space

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 2>structure or very little metal. It's a space of skin,

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 2>essentially pretty gross in the best way. And so they

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 2>get there and they decide that the only thing they

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:37.919
<v Speaker 2>can do is cut their way in, seeing as it's skin,

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.680
<v Speaker 2>which is great. They get in there, they sort of

0:53:40.719 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 2>seem like they're going to do a great heist. I

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:44.479
<v Speaker 2>have to say, I feel like it's going quite well

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning until they come up against Nathan Fillion

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:49.399
<v Speaker 2>in a very hilarious role.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Right he's secure security head. Yeah, security guy. So a

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>big fight, uh breaks off there in various little groups.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 1>You have mantis and drags Nathan Fillion, you have Gomora

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and Peter Quill kind of Peter trying to rekindle the romance,

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>actually just kindle because again this is a different person,

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>just kindle it in the first place. And they're off

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 1>like trying to steal the flesh ball, that is the

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:24.880
<v Speaker 1>hard drive that contains all the information about the creation

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:28.959
<v Speaker 1>of Rocket Raccoon. They managed to get the flesh ball,

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't contain the key. The key, they discover

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:40.919
<v Speaker 1>has been downloaded into the neural implant of one of

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the two top assistants to the High Evolutionary, who they

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 1>learn is not in ORG core headquarters. He is on

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 1>counter Earth in his pyramid other pyramid shaped corporate building there.

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:05.439
<v Speaker 1>And counter Earth is a kind of continuation of the

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>experiments that create a Rocker raccoon the You know, all

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of this time the High Evolutionaries were trying to create

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>very very smart animal hybrids that are peaceful.

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he wants to create a utopian world, and for

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>some reason for him, that includes making animal human hybrids.

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:30.240
<v Speaker 2>And this is very interesting because it's a Counter Earth

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>is a big comic book thing from High Evolutionary's past,

0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 2>created by Royd Thomas and Gilkane, and it's this idea

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 2>of a purer Earth. Yes, it's a better version of Earth,

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:44.279
<v Speaker 2>and that is what he is going for here. But

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 2>as we see, there are not There are many problems

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.959
<v Speaker 2>on counter Earth that are just the same as real Earth,

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:59.200
<v Speaker 2>even if you do fill it with very very very

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 2>brilliantly to life animal human hybrids.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And now it seems like, you know, they land in

0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a suburb and for the most part, everybody seems very

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:14.320
<v Speaker 1>generous and very nice. There is an animal human hybrid

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.919
<v Speaker 1>family that takes. They look like they are maybe, yes,

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:24.479
<v Speaker 1>some kind of bat or bat hybrid. They take Peter

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and the team in and give him delicious drinks and

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>point him in the right direction where to find the

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>high evolutionary, but also on the outskirts of the suburbs

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and kind of like closer into the city of counter Earth.

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>There's like, you know, there's drugs, there is crime, as timelessness,

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>there's homelessness. And this is a very this is a

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:51.359
<v Speaker 1>sticking point for the high evolutionary who has views counter

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Earth essentially as a failure and is currently on onto

0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>another experiment in this line of experiments to create a utopia.

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He's created these other creatures who, again, who are very smart.

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>They can solve all these kind of mathematical problems, they

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>can repair starships. But he's not he's still tinkering with it.

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>He's not quite happy with it. But they all exist

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>as children.

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he believes that the key to fixing his

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 2>problem and creating a true animal human hybrid super being

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 2>is Rocket Raccoon, because Rocket is the only one of

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 2>his creations that's ever been able to innovate every other

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 2>one of his creations. He feels like can just repeat

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>things that he's taught them. But Rocket was incredibly smart.

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Rocket was actually, as we learn in a flashback, it

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>was Rocket who worked out how to make the animal

0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 2>human hybrids peaceful. It was to do with a filtration system.

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 2>It Rocket. The reason Rocket is still alive is due

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 2>to his own innovation and creation with building things and

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 2>invent things. In fact, Nebula has a very cool new

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.360
<v Speaker 2>arm in this movie, and we learn that it's Rocket

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>who created it. So we're really getting to see how

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 2>his horrific past encouraged his intelligence and inventiveness, as well

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 2>as this kind of trauma and anger that it obviously

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 2>gave me.

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, during these flashbacks, we meet Rocket's friends who are

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>part of the same batch of this animal experimentation that

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the High Evolutionary is doing. Now, these are evolved up

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>animals that have been given various kinds of cybernetic implants,

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>very rough and very hard to look at ones. But

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so these friends of Rockets are Lela, who is a

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 1>seattter with metal arms, Thiefs, who is a walrus with

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:56.560
<v Speaker 1>big wheels for hind legs, and Floor who's just like

0:58:56.600 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a very delightful, very sunny, very very optimistic little bunny

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 1>rabbit with kind of a racknid metal racknid.

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Legs and a scary mouth.

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And a scary mouth, and they all get to they

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 1>all create names, these names for each other, and they

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 1>all bond over the idea that one day Master the

0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 1>High Evolutionary is going to create this utopia which ends

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>up being counter Earth and they are going to get

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to live there in freedom and stare at the sky.

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 1>And it is fucking heartbreaking. Ship Yeah, real talk like

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it is really, it is hard. And again this is

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>where if you have it, if you have to want

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to take a young kid to this, it's gonna be

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be rough, because like me and as adults,

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is this is rough.

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 2>It's truly and it makes you hate.

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>You fucking hate the High them. You will hate the

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>High Evolutionary.

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And if you have read the Grant Morrison Frank Quietly

0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 2>comic from Virtego, we three.

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 1>We suggested it on one of.

0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Our Yeah, we've suggested it in the past. Is it's

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 2>such a brilliant comic. It's heartbreaking, but it's hopeful, and

1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it essentially works as a story about three animals who

1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 2>are created as prototype weapons and their kind of journey

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 2>to freedom. And it is very I think fair and

1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 2>likely to say that that was a huge influence on

1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Floor and Rockets journey. And I'm Grant James Gunn is

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a huge fan of Grant Morrison. We know Grant's work

1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:31.439
<v Speaker 2>will be a large part of their next steps at DC.

1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of wild to see a little version

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 2>of We three come to life, especially in Flaw, who

1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like is very similar to the rabbit in

1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 2>that pirate who is just heartbreakingly sweet and optimistic in

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 2>the way they talk. It's really brutal stuff. I'm very

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:54.800
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<v Speaker 1>is in his pyramid shaped corporate headquarters on counter ears

1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Guardians figure out that he's there, and the

1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.640
<v Speaker 1>High Evoution she knows that they know he's there, and

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:03.919
<v Speaker 1>in fact, he has set this trap because he wants

1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to write a Raccoon. The Guardians have Rocket Raccoon, and

1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he knows that they need the key in order to

1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 1>unlock the corporate trademark lock on Time lock on Rocket's

1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Heart in order to save his life, and this will

1:02:24.360 --> 1:02:28.760
<v Speaker 1>allow the High Evolutionary to have Rocket basically delivered right

1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:30.480
<v Speaker 1>into his clutches, and it kind of works. So the

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Guardians go to the corporate headquarters and there's a big

1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:38.600
<v Speaker 1>fight there and one of many shootouts in the movie.

1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.240
<v Speaker 2>One of many shootouts many evolutionary.

1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we should add that Adam Warlock, who is saddened

1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:48.280
<v Speaker 1>at the death of Aisha in one of the one

1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of the previous scenes, goes to counter Earth, basically gets

1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:56.640
<v Speaker 1>his clock cleaned and then kind of soft joins the

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Guardians of the Galaxy, or at least like adds some.

1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because what we learn about the High Evolutionary, and

1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 2>we can assume that the Sovereign is one of the

1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.960
<v Speaker 2>lucky communities. This didn't happen to He has gone through

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:12.640
<v Speaker 2>history creating these new worlds and then destroying them if

1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:15.280
<v Speaker 2>they don't live up to his right, you know. So

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>when they got to counter Earth and counter Earth is

1:03:17.320 --> 1:03:20.360
<v Speaker 2>going to be destroyed because there's these drug problems as homelessness,

1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:22.280
<v Speaker 2>he wants to do it again. I thought the Guardians

1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.440
<v Speaker 2>might try and save counter Earth, but it's too late.

1:03:26.800 --> 1:03:29.400
<v Speaker 2>They're already destroying it. They're always happening.

1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So Peter and Peter and group get the code, get

1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the past code from the head of the Assistant to

1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the High Evolutionary.

1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:44.240
<v Speaker 2>His and not just like his memory, his literal head.

1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:47.920
<v Speaker 1>They killed him and take the head and take the

1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>peace out of the head. And while this is going on,

1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:54.959
<v Speaker 1>the High Evolutionary has triggered the destruct of counter Earth,

1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:59.160
<v Speaker 1>all of counter Earth and the Untold millions, if maybe

1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:03.960
<v Speaker 1>not billions of animal hybrids that live there are all

1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in the process of being destroyed. Peter gets the code back,

1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:12.920
<v Speaker 1>they save Rocket's life, and as they are saving his

1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:16.800
<v Speaker 1>life in the present, we get the flashback of basically

1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>how Rocket escape from the clutches of the Higher. He

1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:25.520
<v Speaker 1>discovers that the High Evolutionary plans to kill all of them,

1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:28.160
<v Speaker 1>kill his friends, kill them all, so he played. He

1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:31.040
<v Speaker 1>puts into motion an escape plan which he had apparently

1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:33.200
<v Speaker 1>been been working on all of this time.

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<v Speaker 2>He had hidden little.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieces of machinery all around his cage, and he puts

1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:43.919
<v Speaker 1>them together and it's a key in order to escape.

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<v Speaker 1>He escapes from the crate, opens the other cage to

1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:50.920
<v Speaker 1>get the other animals out, but the High of Issue

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<v Speaker 1>shows up with his guards. They open fire, and very

1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:58.400
<v Speaker 1>very very sadly Rocket's friends are killed. Rocket flies into

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<v Speaker 1>a rage. He jumps onto the High lutionary and just kicks,

1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:07.000
<v Speaker 1>just tears, literally tears his face off, and then jumps

1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in a spaceship and escapes, and then you know, we

1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:12.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happens until we catch up with him

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we learn about that. And then as they're working

1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.200
<v Speaker 1>on Rocket, it seems like it seems like it's not

1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:27.360
<v Speaker 1>going to work. They've unlocked his heart, but it's the

1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:32.800
<v Speaker 1>heart isn't beating and Rocket is near death in his

1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in some kind of limbo state, his consciousness is walking

1:05:38.400 --> 1:05:41.640
<v Speaker 1>into a light. He sees his friends, he sees Lilah

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<v Speaker 1>comes to him, and this is again, I'm like actually

1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:47.560
<v Speaker 1>getting choked up. Talkdah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to be crying at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Lilah comes to him, tiefs and floor there in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>and and he's so happy to see her. And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>finally I can just be with my friends and like, yeah,

1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we can be together.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do that.

1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Lila tells him We're going to be together one day

1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and just stare at the sky, all of us together

1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and be friends. He's like, this is so great. I

1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:12.480
<v Speaker 1>finally I can rest. And then she puts her metal

1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:15.760
<v Speaker 1>hand on his chest and she says, but not now,

1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because you still have something to do. He needs to

1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:21.880
<v Speaker 1>go back and he needs to fight with the Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>and free all the children that are the current experiment

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<v Speaker 1>of the high evolutionary.

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<v Speaker 2>So he comes back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the High Evolutionaries now space borne Pyramid,

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<v Speaker 1>they invade it, they free all the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful So the High evolution has put out the alert like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all forces be on alert for the Guardians, get me

1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Rocket Raccoon by any means necessary, kill the rest, and

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<v Speaker 1>do what you have to do to get them. That

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<v Speaker 1>sets up and this is a wonderful subversion. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on this podcas about about the third act

1:07:03.120 --> 1:07:06.840
<v Speaker 1>big fight problems that Marvel often encounters. Right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the smartest, if not the smartest

1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:13.040
<v Speaker 1>subversion of that trope that Marvel has done yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>rather than have this big showdown with the High Evolutionary,

1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:20.840
<v Speaker 1>right the big Boss, the big fight is with his henchees,

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<v Speaker 1>including these half animal, half android cyborg creatures and a

1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:32.040
<v Speaker 1>bunch of human guardsmen. And it is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>They do such a good job. But it has this

1:07:34.360 --> 1:07:37.520
<v Speaker 2>great these large one shots, this really interesting use of

1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:41.240
<v Speaker 2>slow motion. It really speaks. I think it's a great

1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:43.400
<v Speaker 2>callback to some of the earlier fights that really made

1:07:43.440 --> 1:07:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Guardian stand out. But it's been streamlined to the point

1:07:47.000 --> 1:07:48.680
<v Speaker 2>where when you see it on that big screen it's

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It it recalls the fight on running the User Ship

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<v Speaker 1>from the first one, but with the kind of scope

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<v Speaker 1>and ambition and general coolness of the Big Infinity War. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>totals fight like it's that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But moral question you mentioned this, You mentioned the cyborg

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<v Speaker 2>animal hybrid kind of characters who are used as part

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<v Speaker 2>of the body count for the high evolutionary what are

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<v Speaker 2>the morals here? Like, we're saving the ones who look

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<v Speaker 2>like humans. Rocket was one of the ones who was

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<v Speaker 2>unfinished and was kind of androidy. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things for me where I was left

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it afterwards, where I was like, who gets saved?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do we try and save them? And I

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<v Speaker 2>understand they didn't have a lot of time to answer those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was a moment where I did want I

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<v Speaker 1>did find myself wishing for some kind of just even

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<v Speaker 1>a line about how sad they were, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>something in the Matrix. I remember that moment in the

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<v Speaker 1>Matrix where where Nea, where Neo is having explained to

1:08:56.160 --> 1:09:00.640
<v Speaker 1>him that everybody they see in the Matrix is a

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<v Speaker 1>person and that occasionally that means they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to kill people who are plugged into the matrix. But

1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's just the way it is because they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>free everyone. In order to free everyone, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to fight these pieces of the system that are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to imprison them. I found myself wishing that there's

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<v Speaker 1>something some kind of justification like that, where it's like, listen,

1:09:23.360 --> 1:09:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we wish we could free these very very aggressive and

1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:31.600
<v Speaker 1>hyper violent and hyper loyal creations of the High Evolutionary.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't because they're trying to kill us. I did

1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.519
<v Speaker 1>find myself wishing that had happened, but that does not

1:09:39.640 --> 1:09:43.920
<v Speaker 1>happen until they just kill them all. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of killing, and it's the fight seat is freaking incredible.

1:09:48.240 --> 1:09:53.439
<v Speaker 1>And then the final showdown with the High Evolutionary is

1:09:54.200 --> 1:09:58.760
<v Speaker 1>a really cathartic, like one minute fucking beat down the

1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:03.519
<v Speaker 1>High Evolutionary with his gravity powers that he upgraded his suit.

1:10:03.960 --> 1:10:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Ever since Rocket tore his face off, he's like never

1:10:06.600 --> 1:10:12.200
<v Speaker 1>again and gave himself gravity powers. Well, Rocket had created

1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:16.639
<v Speaker 1>a kind of like anti gravity power device that he

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<v Speaker 1>then triggers after a little while of getting thrown around

1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:23.439
<v Speaker 1>by the High Evolutionary, and he just proceeds along with

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the Guardians to beat the living tar

1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:30.800
<v Speaker 1>out of the high evolutionary who then lies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before them, And everybody's like, okay, well, Rocket, if you

1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:37.760
<v Speaker 1>want to fish them off, you go ahead and do it.

1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And then Rocket says, no, I won't because I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>guardian of the galaxy. I won't and which is again

1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a very very noble statement, which comes after they kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Are creatures.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's literally a moment where we get within

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<v Speaker 3>the now Staalo is saying to Drags, we can't kill

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<v Speaker 3>anyone with Gudians, that's what we do. And then Staloard

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<v Speaker 3>and Groot go into a room where group pulls out

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<v Speaker 3>many guns, which I will say, I do not believe

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<v Speaker 3>he needs to kill people. But and then christ Stalald says,

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<v Speaker 3>kill them all.

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<v Speaker 2>But now you don't kill if you're a guardian. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there is a morally complex conversation to be

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<v Speaker 2>had there. But I understood where Groot was. I understoodhere

1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Rocket was coming from because he has been tortured and

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to enact that violence on the man

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<v Speaker 2>who did it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this when Peter Quill says kill them all.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, I was absolutely on the side because

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<v Speaker 1>all of the people in that room were human enable

1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:44.040
<v Speaker 1>c sweet followers of the High Evolutionary, not the hybrid

1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Ania guards. It was just like the most evil top

1:11:48.520 --> 1:11:53.120
<v Speaker 1>level cadre of the High Evolutionary, and I was absolutely like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get to get rid of I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they take the other High Evolutionary and as the

1:12:02.360 --> 1:12:05.240
<v Speaker 1>High Evolutionary's ship is crashing, they then go on a

1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:09.519
<v Speaker 1>mission much like Noah's Ark, to save as many of

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<v Speaker 1>the creatures that are on this crashing corporate headquarters as

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<v Speaker 1>they can. They start with the sentient creatures, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the very very smart animal hybrids who aren't still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill them, and this race of white haired

1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:30.360
<v Speaker 1>children who was again the latest experiment that the High

1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Eblution is working on.

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<v Speaker 2>They get all the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the ship, but then Rocket you know, visits the

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<v Speaker 1>area where he was kept in the cages and decides, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saving all the animals too, and the monsters and

1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the battery eating monsters three of them. From the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of Guarnian's The Galaxy Too, there's three of them kept

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<v Speaker 1>on this corporate headquarters, and they Mantis basically turns them

1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:56.800
<v Speaker 1>into friends, which then made be retroactively sad that they

1:12:56.840 --> 1:12:57.880
<v Speaker 1>slice that one open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yiz. She actually realizes that they are not inherently aggressive creatures,

1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:08.960
<v Speaker 2>just themselves. They just want to eat a battery. This

1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:11.280
<v Speaker 2>is all they want. I love to see Mantison her

1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:14.080
<v Speaker 2>new monster buddies. So yeah, they save everyone, and everyone

1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:16.680
<v Speaker 2>ends up on Nowhere, which I'm very glad that Celestial's

1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:18.759
<v Speaker 2>head was so big, because you're talking about a population

1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:20.759
<v Speaker 2>bump of like at least five thousand.

1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's all these are tearing animals now on Nowhere,

1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and one would imagine all these children creations of the

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<v Speaker 1>High evolutionary and some hybrid creations. And they join a

1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:41.320
<v Speaker 1>ragtag cast that was already living on Nowhere, including Kraglin,

1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:45.240
<v Speaker 1>who helps out in the big fight and successfully learns

1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to use Yondu's whistle needle in a wonderful moment where

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of sees the visage like a vision of

1:13:56.600 --> 1:14:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Yondu like basically urging him on, saying, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>do it, you can use this weapon. As they're defending

1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Nowhere from the creations of the Highlustrey it's a nice moment,

1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, from a now deceased child multiple time child traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>The broker is hanging out with them on Nowhere.

1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cosmo, she's doing some cool telekinesis. She's a good dog.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very very powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we see she's able to keep Nowhere and the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate headquarters, the high lushite corporate headquarters like in parallel

1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:34.559
<v Speaker 1>orbit for a period of time just using her teleconnect powers,

1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:35.240
<v Speaker 1>which is wow.

1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Like Gene VP, Cosmo MVP.

1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:43.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a wonderful subplot with Kraglin and Cosmo where he

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<v Speaker 1>calls her a bad dog and it really just bothers

1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:47.719
<v Speaker 1>her for basically the entire movie.

1:14:47.920 --> 1:14:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really great. And then he finally she gets

1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:53.720
<v Speaker 2>a good dog moment when she smashes some people with

1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:55.599
<v Speaker 2>some giant rocks. So all good stuff.

1:14:55.960 --> 1:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Love con Peter once again survives the vacuum of space.

1:15:01.320 --> 1:15:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was gonna die.

1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was done. No Guardian perishes, shocking twist,

1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:11.719
<v Speaker 1>shocking twist, but the original team does break up. Peter decides,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I've got some unfinished business on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather's still alive. I'd like to go visit him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack says, I don't even know who I am. I've

1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:26.240
<v Speaker 1>been fighting all this time. I've now met He really

1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:30.400
<v Speaker 1>had an immediate connection and affinity with these children created

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<v Speaker 1>by the Evolutionary, and it makes him think of what

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<v Speaker 1>he missed with his daughter who was killed by Thanos,

1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and now he's basically gone off to raise these kids.

1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Mantis also leaves because honestly, being an EmPATH is wearying,

1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and she's just been carrying the emotional baggage of all

1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of this team for all of this time. She's fucking burnt.

1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Out and she needs to know who she is. So

1:15:52.560 --> 1:15:54.920
<v Speaker 2>she takes some battery eating monsters and off they go.

1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:57.760
<v Speaker 1>A beautiful you love it, you love to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the new team who we see at the first

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<v Speaker 1>stinger is Rocket Raccoon, Leader now retconned as basically a

1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:11.400
<v Speaker 1>super genius.

1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Who is accepted that he is a raccoon. He's accepted.

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<v Speaker 1>He would always say it, said.

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<v Speaker 2>It on his cage, So he finally he says, I

1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:26.200
<v Speaker 2>am I guess so, Leader Rocket Raccoon Cosmo, Yes, which

1:16:26.240 --> 1:16:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I think wonderful edition perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the children rescued from the High Volutionary, who

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<v Speaker 1>we discover is fi leavel I.

1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Would say almost certainly, with the purple flaming hands that

1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:40.920
<v Speaker 2>seemed to be able to create weapons. Very cool deep cut.

1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Addition, there Adam Warlock, the baby, the baby, He's that

1:16:46.240 --> 1:16:48.519
<v Speaker 1>he's being charm and he's being bumbling, he's bringing a

1:16:48.600 --> 1:16:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Hugron energy to the entire thing, and and swollen Groot

1:16:55.840 --> 1:16:58.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's a wonderful and wonderful team. They're out out

1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the galaxy just basically still for hire. And then

1:17:03.200 --> 1:17:05.400
<v Speaker 1>were where do we leave Peter? We leave Peter on Earth.

1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:08.799
<v Speaker 1>He goes back, he visits his grandfather, who recognizes him instantly,

1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:11.080
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that he's now an adult and less

1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like eleven. Something in the eyes, I would imagine, and

1:17:16.400 --> 1:17:20.679
<v Speaker 1>we leave them around the breakfast table just talking about

1:17:21.000 --> 1:17:26.040
<v Speaker 1>mowing lawns. And the words that come across the screen

1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:27.519
<v Speaker 1>as the movie ends are.

1:17:27.680 --> 1:17:29.880
<v Speaker 2>The legendary Staalowed will.

1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Ritton in what you might be asking, no one knows,

1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:44.479
<v Speaker 1>no one knows, all in all and emotionally powerful MSU film. Yeah,

1:17:44.560 --> 1:17:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it depends your minds may

1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:52.400
<v Speaker 1>vary depending on how big a Guardians fan you are.

1:17:52.439 --> 1:17:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I like the Guardians. I love Rocket Raccoon. I Love Groot,

1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I Love Goamora.

1:17:57.720 --> 1:17:59.880
<v Speaker 2>The Goamor ending is actually my favorite part of the

1:18:00.160 --> 1:18:02.600
<v Speaker 2>while my first past this movie. We end up in

1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:05.839
<v Speaker 2>a situation where so Nebula and Drags stay on Nowhere,

1:18:06.040 --> 1:18:08.800
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna raise these kids, They're gonna run. Nowhere is

1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like a safe space for people, safe safe home. And

1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:17.000
<v Speaker 2>rather than make Gamora and Peter fall back in love,

1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:19.679
<v Speaker 2>which didn't seem at all natural to the character are,

1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:22.840
<v Speaker 2>we get to see Gamura return to the Ravagers as

1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:26.040
<v Speaker 2>a hero, and there's this great kind of there's this

1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:29.360
<v Speaker 2>really wonderful five minute montage at the end that kind

1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:31.080
<v Speaker 2>of shows where everyone is set to the Florence and

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:33.439
<v Speaker 2>the Machine song Dog Days are Over, which was definitely

1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:37.240
<v Speaker 2>emotionally manipulating me in a positive way. But Anna and

1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:39.559
<v Speaker 2>we see Gamura and when she returns to the Ravagers,

1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:42.280
<v Speaker 2>we get this great, like thirty second thing of this

1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:44.920
<v Speaker 2>is her found family and this version of the world

1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:48.080
<v Speaker 2>she fits in here. It's not the Guardians, it's with

1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the Ravagers, and they're hugging her and they're like do

1:18:50.040 --> 1:18:52.200
<v Speaker 2>it giving her, you know, they're rubbing their fists on

1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:54.920
<v Speaker 2>their head and it's just it feels really great, and

1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I love to not see them try and pull some

1:18:58.000 --> 1:19:03.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of fake romanced It would have felt really weird,

1:19:03.560 --> 1:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and it was.

1:19:05.120 --> 1:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>It was nice to have, to your point, this kind

1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of parting where it's like Peter really wants it to happen,

1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.439
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't and he makes his peace with it,

1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and it just feels very earned and natural and honestly

1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with more returning to the Ravagers I have, I feel

1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like she will hear the horns of freedom when she dies.

1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:29.680
<v Speaker 1>She the colors of the colors of a gourd, the

1:19:29.720 --> 1:19:33.479
<v Speaker 1>colors of a gourd absolutely will flash over her grave

1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:38.160
<v Speaker 1>shouts to Goma. I found this again. I found this.

1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought visually it looks great for any of the

1:19:41.640 --> 1:19:46.719
<v Speaker 1>people who were disappointed by the kind of CGI tone

1:19:46.800 --> 1:19:52.080
<v Speaker 1>palette and esthetic texture of in the West Quantum Mania.

1:19:52.200 --> 1:19:54.360
<v Speaker 1>This is much cleaner, and.

1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:56.599
<v Speaker 2>It has a diary. It has a very clear vision,

1:19:56.640 --> 1:20:03.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's a very colorful, engaging, immersive vision. It fits

1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:06.560
<v Speaker 2>very well into that world of Guardians of the Galaxy.

1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:07.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a guardian's movie.

1:20:08.240 --> 1:20:10.400
<v Speaker 1>The creature work is unbelieved.

1:20:10.479 --> 1:20:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the creature work's unparalleled.

1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:17.799
<v Speaker 1>In high evolutionary is certainly one of the most evil

1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:20.519
<v Speaker 1>characters and the most effective villains that we've seen.

1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this about.

1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>The animal experimentation stuff, which again, it's gonna be hard

1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:31.160
<v Speaker 1>for some people to peal it. I I think one

1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of the things that Marvel has struggled with in the

1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:41.639
<v Speaker 1>post endgame phases is stakes, and they've kind of fallen

1:20:41.680 --> 1:20:46.200
<v Speaker 1>back on stuff like, oh my daughter, Oh my family,

1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh this flashback of this thing that happened this uh,

1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Doctor SHARE's The Multiverse of Madness was like

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:55.599
<v Speaker 1>this romance that like with Christine that like never really

1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:59.320
<v Speaker 1>got off the ground anyway when they were together. And

1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:04.320
<v Speaker 1>so I do respect that they went to a place

1:21:04.360 --> 1:21:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that we hadn't seen before to create the steaks m

1:21:07.240 --> 1:21:10.400
<v Speaker 1>h to make you hate the villain, but it is

1:21:11.320 --> 1:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>something that will be I think hard for people who

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<v Speaker 1>love animals and kids to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my biggest I have very complex feelings about the

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<v Speaker 2>whole movie, But my biggest kind of takeaway is that

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we live in a world where a

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<v Speaker 2>movie this weird can be seen as a commercial movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It is extremely weird. It swings for the fences for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of that stuff lands for me, some of it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a movie about a talking tree, a

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<v Speaker 2>talking raccoon, aliens and they're fighting their way through organic

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<v Speaker 2>space stations to save human animal hybrids, and it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of the biggest movies of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the power of comic books to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and comic book storytelling, and that's the thing that still

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<v Speaker 2>makes me excited about these movies and the potential that

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<v Speaker 2>they have.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you mentioned the space hog drop where they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of footing towards Org Corp. There are lots of

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<v Speaker 1>moments like this where, for no reason at all other

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<v Speaker 1>than James gunn is in his bag tying up a movie,

1:22:12.439 --> 1:22:14.920
<v Speaker 1>he'll give you a slow mo shot or a three

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<v Speaker 1>six year camera angle, or this this shot that lingers

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<v Speaker 1>on the character's faces, or the weird way they float

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<v Speaker 1>through space, and there are there are many of these

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<v Speaker 1>that don't necessarily need to be there, and if they

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<v Speaker 1>do kind of need to be there, they certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be that long.

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<v Speaker 2>But the weight of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Those things makes it such a unique visual experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And those were some of my favorite things. Those were

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorite things. Those moments where you lingo

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<v Speaker 2>way you give the time, to the atmosphere, to the vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>to the character, to the story. That's the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>makes this really hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think star Lord TV show?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what they're gonna do? It legendary s what

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna he's Is he gonna be Captain America?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he not Captain America?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm dead serious. Is I would cry of the

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they're doing, They're gonna need a cosmic Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, he will be on the Avengers team.

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<v Speaker 2>He will. You can take that. Look, the truth is

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna need a cosmic Avengers because.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows about celestials. You've lived in a celestial head.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever happens next, there's gonna be a lot of cosmic

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<v Speaker 2>multiversal Shenanigan. So having somebody who has connections to the celestials,

1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:40.479
<v Speaker 2>the eternals know that stuff in a creepily oversight type fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure that they were probably aware that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth is part celestial you know, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. I think a legendary star Lord type appearance

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<v Speaker 2>in the Avengers team as a leader or co leader

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<v Speaker 2>of I think there will be many Avengers teams as

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<v Speaker 2>we lead into this next phase.

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<v Speaker 1>Space Team, Earth Team.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's very likely. I also do think the

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<v Speaker 2>legendary staraloed I think that sounds like a Disney Plus

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<v Speaker 2>show and you do it where he's going around the

1:24:06.560 --> 1:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>galaxy kind of having very Guardians esque fun. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see, because I don't know. I

1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:15.360
<v Speaker 2>think that people who really love these movies, they love

1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>James guns Guardians of the Galaxy, So what does that

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<v Speaker 2>look like without him?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't wait to see. That has been our

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this iteration of the team and certainly the end

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<v Speaker 1>of James Gun's relationship with the MCU, although it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>seems like James Gunn's brother will continue for a while

1:24:44.520 --> 1:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing as how Kraglin is on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I think so that's as right. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>these the truth is that actors exist in both these

1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>worlds Marvel DC otherwise as well, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>will continue with James at d C and James having

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<v Speaker 2>such a deep history at Marvel, and these movies in

1:25:05.880 --> 1:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>general not necessarily becoming the billion dollar blockbusters that the

1:25:09.040 --> 1:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>corporations want them to be. We're not far away from

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<v Speaker 2>a Marvel d C crossover, and James is somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>I think would be very interested in that. Up next,

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<v Speaker 2>Verte out in Today's that outweayh you tell us what

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<v Speaker 2>you love, am why or a theory that you're excited

1:25:30.560 --> 1:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to share. Tony shares a Star Wars theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony writes us, I can learn out about a great

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<v Speaker 1>many things, but Star Wars and the Marvel Universe comics

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<v Speaker 1>and movies are near the top of my list. Long

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<v Speaker 1>story short, my Star Wars fan theory is that the

1:25:42.640 --> 1:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>down Star Destroyer we see at the beginning of The

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Force Awakens is Thran's Chimera or Chimera two.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Parnel completely.

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<v Speaker 1>The shortage of Da Da, I think that the climax

1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of Dave Filoni's movie This is Good, that is the itself.

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<v Speaker 1>The culmination of the Star Wars streaming shows to this

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<v Speaker 1>point will be the Battle of Jaku.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which we don't see, but happens, you know, before we

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<v Speaker 1>catch up with the events of the Force Weekends. Dave

1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>filoni saga has run in parallel with the cinematic saga

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<v Speaker 1>to this point, telling its own story but referring its

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<v Speaker 1>strategic times to the large rebellion, and this event offers

1:26:18.160 --> 1:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity to do both. We will see all

1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:23.479
<v Speaker 1>of our streaming heroes come together, including a full on

1:26:23.520 --> 1:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>live action Rebels reunion complete with Freddy Prince Juior as

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<v Speaker 1>Gaiden's forest Ghost. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>People really want to see it. They really want to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Yeah, and you know what, he looks good like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's looking good.

1:26:33.840 --> 1:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Freddy could do it.

1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I theorize that we will also see other members of

1:26:38.680 --> 1:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the Dameran family more Cgi Luke Kelleron Beck and.

1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Lizzo with a blaster. I would love to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I hope that there's an appearance by the young

1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Vice Admiral Holdo. They will all come together in an

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<v Speaker 1>Adventures endgame style galactic Straverganzi thanks for an extremely entertaining podcast,

1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:58.679
<v Speaker 1>and May the Force speed. Thank you. It's May third today,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, one day, ly me the Forced people

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I'll say this. We understand certainly there have

1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>been rumblings that Star Wars, you know, the Star Wars

1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ip World and Kathleen Kenny want to do some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of team up. They've been hunting for a team up thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this would be such a cool way to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And I mean it's kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine because we live in a post MCU world, the

1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>world whether MCU exists and kind of changed Hollywood. But

1:27:27.080 --> 1:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean a Star Wars event movie. Star Wars movies

1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:33.360
<v Speaker 2>used to be the event movie. So doing a Star

1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Wars event movie, you could be making the biggest movie

1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:39.439
<v Speaker 2>on earth, especially with how much people love the TV

1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:42.120
<v Speaker 2>shows and the movies, and to bring all of that together,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this itea sounds really cool. Tony. Keep this

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<v Speaker 2>one in your pocket, pitch it, pitch it to pitch

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<v Speaker 2>it to Lucasfilm. Thank you so much, Tony. If you

1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>have theories or passions you want to share, hit us

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<v Speaker 2>up x ray at cricket dot com instructions in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes. That's it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosy and he plugged.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be at Jeffrey's Comics in the LA area,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically Torrents, one of my favorite places in the whole

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<v Speaker 2>of America. I will be there with so many other

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<v Speaker 2>cool artists on Free Comic Book Day. You can come

1:28:14.840 --> 1:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and get free comics. And if you are not in

1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>our area, your comic book shop will have free comics.

1:28:20.280 --> 1:28:22.320
<v Speaker 2>It is the rule of free comic book Day. May six.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go there, you can grab comics, maybe they'll

1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you could give some donations of some food. Lots of

1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>different shops do it different ways, but you'll be able

1:28:28.760 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to get free comics. And if you come to Jeffrey's,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be there signing things. I'll have some new

1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>zines that I'm making to prep you. Actually, four Guardians

1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:39.559
<v Speaker 2>in the Galaxy have some fun new zines about some

1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>of the characters and their comic book history that will

1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:43.559
<v Speaker 2>be free. I will also have Godzilla stuff that you

1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>can buy. It will be rad And I will again

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<v Speaker 2>say check out the Hero Initiative because they do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of amazing stuff for the creators who made these

1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>characters possible, and made this whole world possible, and made

1:28:55.320 --> 1:28:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the state of Hollywood today possible. So check out the

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<v Speaker 2>Hero Initiative and support it where you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I will plug the WGA, the Writer's Guilts of America.

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<v Speaker 1>We're currently on strike against the Alliance of Television and

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<v Speaker 1>Motion Picture Producers. Here's the thing. These corporations are enormously profitable,

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<v Speaker 1>enormous profits. The CEOs, the eight CEOs of these corporations

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<v Speaker 1>all together made like more than three quarters of a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars eight hundred million dollar range, which if you're

1:29:33.720 --> 1:29:36.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're scoring at home, is more than the two

1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>percent raise that writers are asking for. And there are

1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>various other problems. I want, I want bar with you

1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>with them, all of which is to say, these studios

1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:52.639
<v Speaker 1>sell one thing, and that is the stories the writers write.

1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:58.439
<v Speaker 1>And we're at a stage now where writers, if my

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<v Speaker 1>only job was writing for I would not be able

1:30:02.760 --> 1:30:06.599
<v Speaker 1>to be living. It would be very, very tough because listen,

1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you might make you might make a good rate on

1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:14.519
<v Speaker 1>a weekly basis, but you might only do eight or

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<v Speaker 1>ten weeks of a mini room and then not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find anything for three months, four months, six months,

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<v Speaker 1>eight months, a year, because it's getting harder and harder.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked a lot and joked a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>the gig economy on this podcast, but the sus basically

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<v Speaker 1>want to create a world in which writing for TV

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<v Speaker 1>is a gig economy. They'll pay you by the day,

1:30:37.680 --> 1:30:42.519
<v Speaker 1>they'll have AI kind of create the outline, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll hire a couple of kids, like on a

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<v Speaker 1>day rate, to punch it up whatever the computer created,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll put that out as cheaply as possible

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<v Speaker 1>so that the CEOs could continue to garner their enormous, enormous,

1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>enormous paychecks, and so that they can serve not the

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<v Speaker 1>not the interests of the people who assume stories or

1:31:04.240 --> 1:31:07.479
<v Speaker 1>the people who create the stories, but the shareholders. Again,

1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>these corporations are seeing enormous profits, because the profits aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of profits that scale at the level that

1:31:16.479 --> 1:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Wall Street likes. All of this is seen as a failure.

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<v Speaker 1>David Zaslav pulled in some three hundred million dollars last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is for the you know, basically shepherding Discovery

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<v Speaker 1>into buying a thing that it can't afford, which resulted

1:31:33.160 --> 1:31:34.599
<v Speaker 1>in numerous layoffs, and we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing billions of dollars of debt.

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<v Speaker 1>So support your WGA writers. Support writers, post about them.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see posts from writers on any of your

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<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, give them your support. They would they

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<v Speaker 1>would appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do want to be bored. My stories on

1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>my Instagram are a source of constant WGA information. I

1:31:57.040 --> 1:32:00.320
<v Speaker 2>have many links to many stories, many different posts places

1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:02.160
<v Speaker 2>where you can go and pick it with our friends

1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:05.479
<v Speaker 2>in the WGA. So if you want to be bored

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<v Speaker 2>by it, Rosie marks my stories. That's what I'm using

1:32:08.400 --> 1:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>them for at the moment, is just to share the

1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:12.479
<v Speaker 2>stories of writers, the realities of what this is like,

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<v Speaker 2>because even this job wouldn't exist for us if people

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<v Speaker 2>didn't write these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's very correct. Catch the next episode on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>way to bond with my teen son, who, like me,

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge comic Marvel DC fan. We've listened together

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<v Speaker 1>and he often stops you to explain more to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No notes, Love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, awesome Alison, and shouts to your

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful son. X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production.

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<v Speaker 1>The show is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin.

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<v Speaker 1>The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy's Rhard

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<v Speaker 1>are editing in sound design, Who's by Vascilla's Photopoulos. Dylon

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<v Speaker 1>Villanueva and Matt de Group provide video production support. Alex

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<v Speaker 1>wella Ford handle social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for

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<v Speaker 1>theme music. See you next time, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye