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Speaker 2: On this week's episode, we're going into space. It's Guardians

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Speaker 2: of the Galaxy, Baby im previously on, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: recapping and reflecting on the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise

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Speaker 2: thus far and getting you up to speed on where

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Speaker 2: all your favorite characters are in the airlock. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be talking Guardians of the Galaxy volume three, So if

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Speaker 2: you haven't seen it spoiler alah, go and see it

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Speaker 2: and then listen to this episode and in nerd out

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a relevantly spacey theory about Star Wars

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Speaker 1: It coming up previously on. First up in the previously on,

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Speaker 2: Special Let's Do It. Let's Do It. God Is the

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Speaker 2: Galaxy Volume one introduced US two that at the time

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Speaker 2: You may remember him as an adult. He's a quick

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Speaker 2: mission to steal a valuable artifact known as the Orb,

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Speaker 2: he becomes entangled with Gomora, the daughter of the tyrant Thanos.

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Speaker 2: Sleep espioning, He's Thespianing. Gamura and Quilla soon waylaid by

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. So watching rewatching this, it

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Speaker 1: And then act on that information to do it yourself? Ego,

433
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: you are immensely powerful. We've seen you move around in

434
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Speaker 1: human form, go to Earth and meet up with Peter's

435
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: mom and go, and clearly you went to other planets

436
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: did the same thing. Why why do you need all

437
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: these like Postmates deliveries of kids?

438
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: Just go do it. You could use your powers to

439
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: summon them to you or something. I'm sure there is,

440
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna trust some random guy and like

441
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: a flying kind of junk trap I don't know. And look,

442
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: look what happened.

443
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: The one kid who you were looking for is the

444
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: one kid that YANDU is like, I'm gonna keep this one.

445
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: And not only that, but you're so bad at planning

446
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: that that like stopped you in your tracks. You were just.

447
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Spinning your wheels for years and years after waiting to

448
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: find Peter Quill and his little Zoon and.

449
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: The big I would say, the big introduction here is

450
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: not Ego. As much as I would have loved to

451
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: see Cut Russell become a super big bad in the MCU,

452
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: I love cut Russell. I love Ego The Living Planets,

453
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 2: such a weird character. The real heavy hit hair is Mantis.

454
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Speaker 4: Oh.

455
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: I love Mantis. Mantis for the comics. Was delighted to

456
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Speaker 1: see her come to life in the MCU.

457
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just such a delightful performance by Palm clem teeth

458
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: and just a wonderful kind character whose powers does an

459
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: EmPATH allow her to control people? We will see her

460
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: play an absolutely immense part in Infinity War, only to

461
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: be thwarted by the idiocy of Peter Quill.

462
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: Oh we were, we were right there, Peter Rat.

463
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna wrap no issue, stop it, no blip, no, no,

464
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: five years. It was about head. Embarrassing, embarrassing. It makes

465
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 2: me so angry. So the good thing is because Mantis

466
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: is such an EmPATH, she connects with drags, creating one

467
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: of the best buddy duos in the MCU. It was

468
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: delightful to see them in the Holiday special together, and

469
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: she reveals Ego's full plan the guard This gives the

470
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: Guardians kind of upper hand, and while Ego is helping

471
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: Peter harness celestial powers which are so immense that they

472
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: would immediately make Peter the most powerful person in the MCU,

473
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: they end up battling. He uses the powers to distract Ego.

474
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: Ego is destroyed, the planet is destroyed, and because Ego

475
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: has destroyed, Peter's powers are gone, his celestial powers, because

476
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: he'd be too overpowered. It would be two powerful.

477
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, because clearly the powers

478
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: are gone, but his celestial hybrid physiology is clearly quite durable.

479
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was. His physiology was noted by the

480
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: Nova Corps. That's where it kind of first came from.

481
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: So it is there, and I do think in God,

482
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: it's some of the better and best. Actually, we kind

483
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: of talked about this and we'll talk about it more

484
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: stuff in volume three. We do get to see him

485
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: kind of have a super hero movements and almost like

486
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: my favorite one of my favorite books and TV series,

487
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Shadow and Bone. There's a great way that magic works

488
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: in that and you will see people who are good

489
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: at shooting guns, and the gun shooting goodness comes from

490
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: their skills in magic. Kind of like wanted having, you know,

491
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: bullet power curving as a superpower. So I kind of

492
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: think that that inherent superheroic nature and celestial physiology. I

493
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: like that that's a good catch. It's still that he's

494
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: not celestial fully now, and he can't be like blasting planets,

495
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: but he's definitely got a little bit more than.

496
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Your average He does average guy. He does at the

497
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: end of Guardians survive excuse me. In the middle of

498
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: Guardians Survive the vacuum of space, and he does survive

499
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: many spoiler, he is a He continues to be able

500
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to be in the vacuum of space for a extended

501
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: period of time.

502
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and sadly, Peter does not only have to say

503
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: goodbye to his biological father, who was a super dick

504
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: so no one misses him, sorry, but he has to

505
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: say goodbye to Yondu, who sacrifices himself to save Peter

506
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: in an ultimate moment of what the MCU sees is redemption,

507
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: what we see as good for you but doesn't mean

508
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: you didn't traffic thousands of children.

509
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: You did travel in his final moments. One can only

510
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: hope that in addition to Peter, the many many other

511
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: nameless children run through his mind run through his mind

512
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: in the final seconds of his life, and we thank

513
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: him for his sacrifice.

514
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is really where we get our core

515
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Guardians team. Even we have Mantis joins and we end up.

516
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: Even though Nebula heads off to kill Thanos, which leads

517
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: us to the kind of events of the big Infinity

518
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: one endgame, she is already now part of the team,

519
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: and you kind of have that core crew going forward

520
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: into the rest of the MCU and the wider Marvel galaxy.

521
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: That takes us to the Non Guardians movie. Now, uh,

522
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: where these various characters ended up. The first one where

523
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: we see some Guardians characters is Infinity War first Non

524
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: Guardians movie. We see them in a mission to take

525
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: down Thanos. They are the away team. Basically they go

526
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: to Titan with Tony, with Peter Parker, with doctor Strange.

527
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Speaker 1: You have Mantis, you have Drax, you have Goamura, you

528
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: have Peter Quill and they again almost pull it off. Yes,

529
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Speaker 1: they come very very close.

530
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: They come very very close. But it's Peter Quill. He

531
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: has a lot problem because prior to this, Gomore has

532
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: gone missing. Viewers know that heartbreakingly, she has been taken

533
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: by her father Thanos, to be thrown off the cliffs

534
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Speaker 2: of Vormer in a sacrifice for the soul Stone. As

535
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Thanos told us, what did it cost him? Me everything?

536
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's feeling sad about it. He wishes he

537
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: didn't have to kill his daughter, but he does, and

538
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: in that shocking one of the most annoying moments in

539
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: the MCU. I was very happy to hear that James

540
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Gunn did not believe that this was the route the

541
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: character would have taken. In the press tour in the

542
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: lead up to Guardians the Galaxy volume three, Peter Quil

543
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: finds out from an EmPATH possessed Thanos that Gomora is dead,

544
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: so he punches him in the head. We are we

545
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: are so close that the glove is coming off, the

546
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: gauntlet is coming off. There will be no click, there

547
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: will be no blip.

548
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out Mantis in this scene

549
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: because it is her. You really get a feeling for

550
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: the depths of her power. She's able to keep Thanos,

551
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: who is unjust like you know, he beat up the Hulk,

552
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: he beat up Thor's. He's a match for he has

553
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: many stones. Yeah, without you, without the stones, he's a

554
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: match for almost any of our heroes. And Mantis has

555
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: him on the ropes for a while, just like keep.

556
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: Baren drags Ultimate Team up. It's working, it's.

557
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Really, really, really great, so shouts to Mantis. It didn't

558
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: work because Peter lost his shit and I get it.

559
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking to find out that you're the woman you

560
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: love was thrown off a cliff on a mirror in

561
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: order to relate to book and in Finney's stone. But

562
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: but just let us beat him right now.

563
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: Be angry afterwards, take the take, take the gold let,

564
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: and then do it. But no, he blows up. All

565
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: goes horribly wrong. The only other member that wasn't on

566
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: the team at that point, in that very moment, Nebula,

567
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: had been being tortured by Fanos, but she manages to

568
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: escape because he kind of puts the Chittarian charge and

569
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: as we know, Tari can't really get shit done, so

570
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: she escapes, teams up and she is one of the

571
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: few members of the Guardians who does not end up

572
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: getting dusted as we head into endgame.

573
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Speaker 1: Do let me ask you this, Do robots, do androids

574
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Speaker 1: get dusted? M just just just synthetic life. I'm not

575
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: saying it's not life, but I'm saying, would Ultron get dusted?

576
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Would you Acosta get dusted? Would Danger the uh, the

577
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: sentient human formed embodiment of the Danger Room get dusted?

578
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't think so. In MCU canon, I cannot.

579
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Speaker 1: Really would Cyborg get dusted just the human part?

580
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Everything I believe, would.

581
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Death Luck get dusted? Just the human part them.

582
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: Is too it adds many more rules. I feel like

583
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: in the comics when the blit happens, it's just you

584
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: just eradicate life, right, and it's just Iologically he wants

585
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: to he wants to impressed death, he wants to sleep

586
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: with his girlfriend who say and note him, and he

587
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: does it to impress her. I feel like in the

588
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: movie's sentient life is a grey area because we don't

589
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: like vision seems to still exist, and that could be

590
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: that he didn't never like a loophole. Really, Nebula is

591
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: a loophole, I think because she actually that is such

592
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: a great point. She is essentially her father's own downfall

593
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: because he has tortured her so much, replaced her eyes

594
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: as a form of torture. We see him pulling her

595
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: apart and kind of going through her memories, and Karen

596
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: Gillen is so brilliant in that role. I really love

597
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: Nebula and that is such a great catch because you're

598
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: absolutely right. She essentially becomes a loophole, and then she

599
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: goes on to join the Avengers in endgame and become

600
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: a primary part of taking down her father.

601
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, is a huge and obviously her connection with her

602
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: alternate self basically sparks the final big fight on Yeah. Second,

603
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: the Avengers compound post.

604
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: Sister Gomora, you know she is the one who's able

605
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: to make that connection with her and put her on side.

606
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Next, there's Drax, who we last saw. Of course he

607
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: got uh, he got dusted very back. He uh put

608
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: put in a great showing during the big fight at

609
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: the Avengers compound against Santos and his forces, and uh

610
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: we see him stab one of those big Chatari beasts

611
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: in the back, among other things. He's a very very

612
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: tough guy and later we see him in the Guardians

613
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: of Galaxy Christmas schedule as part of the hair Brain

614
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: scheme to kidnap Kevin Bacon in order to cheer up

615
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Peter Quill, who is very very very depressed because one

616
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: his girlfriend Gemora died and two she came back but

617
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: the all version from where they were together and doesn't

618
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: know him and has no interest in ever getting to

619
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah, which is and honestly fair, because it's

620
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: such a weird what a weird imagine coming to an

621
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: alternate world and being like, hey, by the way, we

622
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: get together later and you're just like, I can't know.

623
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: And also like he is annoying. Let's be real, he

624
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: doesn't have He's not He's not coming at it with

625
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: like a romantic or interesting sensibility.

626
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, were you know, having just watched the Guardians

627
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: movies back to back, man, Peter, Peter makes a lot

628
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: of his galactic body count in that first movie. He

629
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: is just talking about it, talking about the furious scars

630
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: that he has all over his body as a result

631
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: of these galactic dalliances with various alien women.

632
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get that really famous scene where he's you know,

633
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: he goes up in the ship and kind of flies

634
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: around crazy and then the girl comes out of his

635
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: bedroom and he'd forgotten she was there, you know, So Pete,

636
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: come on, man, what are you doing. Oh? Also, speaking

637
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: of the Holiday Special, very important thing to note it that,

638
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: honestly I still think is actually my favorite Guardian's thing.

639
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: I loved it. The vibe was just so good and

640
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: that was a massive moment for Mantis, who, again, like

641
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: you said, absolutely smashed it. Almost defeated Dan as Peter

642
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: fucked it up. Comes back after the blip and we

643
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: see her really coming into her own with Dras during

644
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: the Christmas Special or the Holiday Special, they go on

645
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: this funny kidnapping adventure, but really the big moment is

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Speaker 2: that she reveals that she's actually Peter's half sister. She

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Speaker 2: is also the daughter of Ego, so that was a

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Speaker 2: big beat for her and it explains why her powers

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Speaker 2: are so intense. Makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Next up, our good friend Rocket Raccoon played a very

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Speaker 1: very important role in Infinity War, goes off with Thor

652
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Speaker 1: in order to create a new Uru metal weapon, this

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Speaker 1: time an X.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: They go off to Nider and they create this X.

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Speaker 1: Rocket then plays again in a really important role during

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Speaker 1: the final battle.

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Speaker 2: He does not.

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Speaker 1: Get snapped notably, and then in the time between Endgame

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Speaker 1: and Love and Thunder is running around in space with Thor,

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Speaker 1: who is kind of like an adopted member of the

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Speaker 1: team for a period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we really thought we were going to get the

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Speaker 2: as Guardians of the Galaxy and it didn't really happen,

665
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Speaker 2: but we got to kind of tease it, and then

666
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Speaker 2: we got to see it a little bit with that

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Speaker 2: one great opening fight scene in Love and Thunder, And obviously,

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Speaker 2: again going back to Holiday Special, it's Rocket who really

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Speaker 2: befriends Cosmo. Cosmo first appeared in the post credit scene

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Speaker 2: for Guardians Galaxy Volume one with Howard the Dark as

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Speaker 2: part of the Collector's collection, but we really get to

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Speaker 2: see Cosmo kind of be borret into the fold in

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Speaker 2: the Holiday Special, which becomes a major part of volume three.

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Speaker 1: We should Yeah, so I guess should we talk about

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Speaker 1: Cosmo briefly?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: First, let's so Cosmo, of course the space dog sent

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Speaker 1: up by the Russians during the early days of the

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Speaker 1: Space Race. It just kind of was floating around up there,

680
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Speaker 1: was picked up by the collector who loves weird one

681
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Speaker 1: off kitchy things, and here is a dog in a

682
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Speaker 1: Russian dog and Space Collector loved it, picked him up,

683
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Speaker 1: picked her up, experimented on her, and basically gave her

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Speaker 1: full human level intelligence, sentience, and an ability to communicate

685
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Speaker 1: both with her mind and to and to use telekinetic powers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a freak a cool like up Doug style,

687
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Speaker 2: you know, speaking calla which really really gets used well

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Speaker 2: in in volume volume three. I love to see Cosmo.

689
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the coolest asmu's fintasts.

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Speaker 2: That's such a cool bit of real history kind of reimagined,

691
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Speaker 2: like what if she wasn't just sacrificed for the space

692
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Speaker 2: race and instead became this super cool hero. And I

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Speaker 2: guess that's what Guardians does so well, because I mean

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Speaker 2: the member that we have yet to talk about what

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Speaker 2: he got up to after, you know volume two is Grout,

696
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Speaker 2: who is literally a tree but has become one of

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Speaker 2: I mean sorry, I shouldn't say that he is an

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Speaker 2: alien species that looks like a tree. Super yeah, yeah, Superflora.

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Speaker 2: But two fans and people out there, this is a

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Speaker 2: really one of the weirdest, big strange MCU characters and

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Speaker 2: comic book characters. And the thing I love about it

702
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Speaker 2: is like you see kids now who are going around

703
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Speaker 2: and they are wearing like a little groot on their shoulder. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: this is a character that speaks so much to who

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Speaker 2: and what the Guardians are and why they've become so popular.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of mind blowing. Especially like this is you know,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a Stanley, Stanley's brother Larry Lee but

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Speaker 2: and Jack Kirby creation. This is like old school weird,

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Speaker 2: super iconic creator stuff. And he has become one of

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Speaker 2: the most beloved characters in the whole of the MCU.

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Speaker 1: And among our h our qure MCU characters. Is notable

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Speaker 1: for basically being unkillable.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. He's I think it's fair to

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Speaker 2: say he's immortal.

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Speaker 1: If there is even a splinter of groot that remains

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Speaker 1: Groot lives on, like you have to chop up his

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Speaker 1: entire body and like incinerate it.

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Speaker 2: At the highest possible temperature, because I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: believe a little bit of even I think a little

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Speaker 2: bit of ash. If there was just a tiny bit

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Speaker 2: of liquid still in there, you could probably plant it

722
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Speaker 2: and get annualized. I think certainly if he creates pollen

723
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Speaker 2: and the pollen flies off I think he comes back

724
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: like just you know, we've seen him reduced to essentially

725
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: a twig, we see him grow up from a baby.

726
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Speaker 2: In Guardians three, he is even more able to like

727
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Speaker 2: morph his body than ever before and.

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Speaker 1: Essentially unkilled. You can't kill Groot cannot die.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a key character, fun character. He's what's

730
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Speaker 2: he been up to. He was in thor Love and Thunder.

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Speaker 2: You got to see him there. We're seeing in the

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Speaker 2: Guardians of Galaxy Holiday Special, freaking people out with his

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Speaker 2: buff kind of early twenties body, and obviously as well,

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Speaker 2: he's so popular that he even got his own Baby

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Speaker 2: Grew animated series, which is very delightful and not necessarily

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Speaker 2: like important canon, but just very cute. So that's what

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Speaker 2: they've all been up to, and now they're headed to

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Speaker 2: old Guardians the Galaxy Volume three.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it up next, Guardians the Galaxy Volume three,

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Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. Depending on when you're

741
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Speaker 1: hearing this, it might come out the very day that

742
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Speaker 1: you are hearing this release eight May fifth. It is

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Speaker 1: the second film in Phase five of the MCU, after

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Speaker 1: ant Man in the Wasp Quantumnia, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: recap it now off the top of our heads, wow

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Speaker 1: vere fo because obviously we saw it in a screening.

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Speaker 1: We're not able to take notes, have devices out and

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Speaker 1: it's been a few days. But here we go as

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Speaker 1: we attempt to do this. So we open on nowhere,

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Speaker 1: which is now the headquarters of the Guardians of the Galaxy.

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Speaker 1: The Guardians have opened a kind of bar slash headquarter base, like.

752
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Speaker 2: Like p I office. You can come and hire a guardian.

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Speaker 1: What you all you the Guardians to do stuff as

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Speaker 1: we saw, you know, just like we saw the opening

755
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Speaker 1: of Guardians too, where you know, they're hired by the

756
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Speaker 1: sovereign to uh to basically kill the battery eating monsters.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could hire them out depending on.

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Speaker 2: Parents and what the rates are.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Peter Quill has fallen into substance

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Speaker 1: of abuse. He is depressed because again Gomura was killed

761
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Speaker 1: by her father Thanos, and then Gamura came back. But

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Speaker 1: it's not but it's alternate version. Gomora, who from the past,

763
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Speaker 1: who never had a relationship with him, doesn't remember him

764
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Speaker 1: and is not interested in having a relationship with him,

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Speaker 1: and basically Peter treats her as if she died, which

766
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Speaker 1: she did. She did die, so he's basically acting like

767
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Speaker 1: she's she's she's dead and he's mourning her. But the

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Speaker 1: alternate version Gomora remained in this timeline and is now

769
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Speaker 1: running around with the Ravagers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pias having a rough time of it. He is

771
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Speaker 2: so wasted in that little bar that we begin the

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Speaker 2: movie with Rocket listening to Creep by radio Head as

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Speaker 2: all of this is going on. He has taken Pete's

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Speaker 2: beloved zoon. That's how out of it Pieter is. He's

775
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Speaker 2: not even looking off to the zoon.

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Speaker 1: So once again, it's a gig economy in space. And

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Speaker 1: the High Evolutionary, who is the big bad of this

778
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: movie and is a mad scientist, genius level genetic madman

779
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Speaker 1: who also has like various corporations that are made up

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Speaker 1: of his creations and has even created entire worlds, has

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Speaker 1: tasked the Sovereign and our good friend Aisha, who we

782
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Speaker 1: learn here are actually a creation of the High Evolutionary.

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Speaker 1: The High Evolutionary created the entire people and world of

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Speaker 1: the Sovereign has tasked Ayisha with getting back his most

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Speaker 1: prized creation, and that is Rocket Raccoon, who we see

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Speaker 1: in flashbacks the things that Rocket endured throughout this movie

787
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Speaker 1: at the hands of the high evolutionary and let's stop

788
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Speaker 1: here to talk about that, because it is bracing.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: We know a lot of parents listen to this, listen

791
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: to this podcast, and certainly you're thinking, oh, man, my

792
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: kid loves Guardians one and loved Guardians two. I would say,

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Speaker 1: if your kid is like, let's say, younger than thirteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe younger than eleven, what would you say.

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Speaker 2: I'd say it all depends on the capacity that your

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Speaker 2: kid has for watching animals in trauma. I feel like

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Speaker 2: it's very specific. I watched a lot of horror films

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Speaker 2: as a kid, Yeah, but I was devastated by, you know,

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Speaker 2: Warship Down.

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Speaker 1: This is very much like watershiped Down, Ship Down, the

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Speaker 1: huge animals getting put through terrible, terrible things at the

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Speaker 1: hands of one of the most evil characters that we've

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Speaker 1: seen at the FC.

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Speaker 2: If you are somebody who uses the website does a.

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Speaker 1: Dog Die, you will likely.

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Speaker 2: Have issues watching this movie. It has a very vigorous

807
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Speaker 2: and visceral representation of animals being tested on, of animals

808
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Speaker 2: being harmed, and some animals rip to those animals sadly

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Speaker 2: being killed.

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Speaker 1: Animals do die.

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Speaker 2: In animals do die and fictionally, fictionally CGI animals made

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Speaker 2: by the hard working VFX people at the prop store.

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Speaker 1: I believe yes. And I will tell you as a kid,

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Speaker 1: as a as a person who has a child, rented

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Speaker 1: Watership Down because I saw cute bunnies on the cover

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Speaker 1: of the VHS and thought this will be great cute

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Speaker 1: bunnies and was really really messed up for a little

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Speaker 1: while after watching that film. I could imagine, if you're

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Speaker 1: a young kid and you love cute animals, that this

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Speaker 1: is a rocky raccoon or rocket raccoon. This is going

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Speaker 1: to be this is going to be a hard watch. Also,

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Speaker 1: I would say as a person, I had to I

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Speaker 1: had to delay my screening because my dog got spade

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Speaker 1: on the first night of the screening, so I defined

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Speaker 1: it one this second night, and so going to that

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Speaker 1: movie while my.

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Speaker 2: Dog was recovering from surgery was really rough. It was rough,

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Speaker 2: It really rough. It's it's definitely very much in that

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Speaker 2: horror movie Vein. And I would also say, you know,

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Speaker 2: far less importantly, but just have to put out there.

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Speaker 2: If you're a fan of the comic book version of

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Speaker 2: the High Evolutionary. You will likely be shocked because this

833
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: version is very, very, very evil. The High Evolutionary has

834
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Speaker 2: a lot of problems, but this is a very This

835
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Speaker 2: is a villain who, by the time you inevitably watch

836
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Speaker 2: him defeated, you are happy. It's extremely cathotic. You love

837
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Speaker 2: to see it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, yeah, And like it's a good point, Rosie,

839
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Speaker 1: because the comics version of the High Evolutionary is a

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Speaker 1: very frosty, remote, like emotionally unavailable, cerebral, kind of prefessorial,

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Speaker 1: kind of semi villain. I wouldn't kill him, an out

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Speaker 1: and out villain. But the movie version of the High

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00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Evolutionary is period but a bit a basic, like a

844
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Speaker 1: raving madman, like a stark, raving madman who's even his

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Speaker 1: like top lieutenants and assistants are like destrified, like on

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Speaker 1: the edge of losing it. Okay, So the High Evolutionary

847
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Speaker 1: hires the Sovereign and our good friend Nisha and her

848
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Speaker 1: newly hatched Adam Warlock.

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Speaker 2: You may remember from the post credit scene of Guardian's

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Speaker 2: Galaxy volume.

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Speaker 1: Two, who's been hatched. He is fully presenting as an adult,

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Speaker 1: but has the intellectual abilities well of basically like a

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Speaker 1: maybe like a twelve year old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a baby. He is a baby, but he

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Speaker 2: is a baby. He's really stupid. Yes, it's a very

856
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Speaker 2: he's a he's a himbo, and it's gonna be a

857
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: very controversial read on one of the most powerful characters

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Speaker 2: in Marvel Comics history. Your gig, your gig economy question

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Speaker 2: is right, Your point is right. Do not hire the

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Speaker 2: baby alien even though he's very powerful, he doesn't know

861
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: what he's doing.

862
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't know what he's doing, folks. So they hire

863
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: Aisha and she sends h Adam Warlock to go pick

864
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: up Rocket in order to return him to the High Evolutionary,

865
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: who is threatened to wipe out the sovereign if they

866
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: are not successful. So Adam Warlock got flies to nowhere

867
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: is just a wrecking shop all in the streets, destroys

868
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: the Guardian's bar slash Base, is fighting with Nebula, is

869
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: fighting with Drax, is fighting with everybody, and long story short,

870
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: they fight him off, but Rocket is very, very seriously

871
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: injured in the scrap and unfortunately they can't fix They

872
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: can't fix them, They can't do any medical care on

873
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: him because there is a kill switch inside of his

874
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: chest that is copyright registered, copyright protected to ORG Corp,

875
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: the main corporate entity, the CEO of which is the

876
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: High evolutionaiy.

877
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: So basically they have.

878
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: To find the you know, the unlock key at corporate

879
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: headquarters of Org Corp in order to save Rocket's life.

880
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: Now we're on this mission, the Guardians enlist Gomora, who

881
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: has been running around with her with her ravagers. They

882
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: actually invade the Guardian ship at one point and they

883
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: convince her, hey, let's team up. You want to break

884
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: into org Corp because you and the Ravagers want to

885
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: steal a bunch of like really really expensive and rare

886
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: corporate ip that the High Evolutionary has created, and we

887
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: want to save Rocket. So will you help us? And

888
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, So the Guardians for money. So

889
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: the Guardians plus Gomora break into org Corp. And it's

890
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: it is a feast for the odds.

891
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: Yes, this is one of my favorite parts of the movie.

892
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: We get a classic powerful James gun needle drop, we

893
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: get space Hog and it's playing as they wear these

894
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: rainbow colored face suits and kind of a little bit

895
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: ether and Or Corp is very fun because it's a

896
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: organic space, not a sentient being, but an organic space

897
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: structure or very little metal. It's a space of skin,

898
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: essentially pretty gross in the best way. And so they

899
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: get there and they decide that the only thing they

900
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: can do is cut their way in, seeing as it's skin,

901
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: which is great. They get in there, they sort of

902
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: seem like they're going to do a great heist. I

903
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 2: have to say, I feel like it's going quite well

904
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: at the beginning until they come up against Nathan Fillion

905
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: in a very hilarious role.

906
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Right he's secure security head. Yeah, security guy. So a

907
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: big fight, uh breaks off there in various little groups.

908
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: You have mantis and drags Nathan Fillion, you have Gomora

909
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: and Peter Quill kind of Peter trying to rekindle the romance,

910
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: actually just kindle because again this is a different person,

911
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: just kindle it in the first place. And they're off

912
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: like trying to steal the flesh ball, that is the

913
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: hard drive that contains all the information about the creation

914
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 1: of Rocket Raccoon. They managed to get the flesh ball,

915
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: but it doesn't contain the key. The key, they discover

916
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: has been downloaded into the neural implant of one of

917
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: the two top assistants to the High Evolutionary, who they

918
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: learn is not in ORG core headquarters. He is on

919
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: counter Earth in his pyramid other pyramid shaped corporate building there.

920
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: And counter Earth is a kind of continuation of the

921
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: experiments that create a Rocker raccoon the You know, all

922
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: of this time the High Evolutionaries were trying to create

923
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: very very smart animal hybrids that are peaceful.

924
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: Yes, he wants to create a utopian world, and for

925
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: some reason for him, that includes making animal human hybrids.

926
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 2: And this is very interesting because it's a Counter Earth

927
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: is a big comic book thing from High Evolutionary's past,

928
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: created by Royd Thomas and Gilkane, and it's this idea

929
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: of a purer Earth. Yes, it's a better version of Earth,

930
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: and that is what he is going for here. But

931
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: as we see, there are not There are many problems

932
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 2: on counter Earth that are just the same as real Earth,

933
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: even if you do fill it with very very very

934
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: brilliantly to life animal human hybrids.

935
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: And now it seems like, you know, they land in

936
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: a suburb and for the most part, everybody seems very

937
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: generous and very nice. There is an animal human hybrid

938
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: family that takes. They look like they are maybe, yes,

939
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: some kind of bat or bat hybrid. They take Peter

940
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: and the team in and give him delicious drinks and

941
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: point him in the right direction where to find the

942
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: high evolutionary, but also on the outskirts of the suburbs

943
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: and kind of like closer into the city of counter Earth.

944
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: There's like, you know, there's drugs, there is crime, as timelessness,

945
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: there's homelessness. And this is a very this is a

946
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: sticking point for the high evolutionary who has views counter

947
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Earth essentially as a failure and is currently on onto

948
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: another experiment in this line of experiments to create a utopia.

949
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: He's created these other creatures who, again, who are very smart.

950
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: They can solve all these kind of mathematical problems, they

951
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: can repair starships. But he's not he's still tinkering with it.

952
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: He's not quite happy with it. But they all exist

953
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: as children.

954
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he believes that the key to fixing his

955
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: problem and creating a true animal human hybrid super being

956
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: is Rocket Raccoon, because Rocket is the only one of

957
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: his creations that's ever been able to innovate every other

958
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: one of his creations. He feels like can just repeat

959
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: things that he's taught them. But Rocket was incredibly smart.

960
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: Rocket was actually, as we learn in a flashback, it

961
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: was Rocket who worked out how to make the animal

962
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: human hybrids peaceful. It was to do with a filtration system.

963
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: It Rocket. The reason Rocket is still alive is due

964
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: to his own innovation and creation with building things and

965
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: invent things. In fact, Nebula has a very cool new

966
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: arm in this movie, and we learn that it's Rocket

967
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: who created it. So we're really getting to see how

968
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: his horrific past encouraged his intelligence and inventiveness, as well

969
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: as this kind of trauma and anger that it obviously

970
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: gave me.

971
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Now, during these flashbacks, we meet Rocket's friends who are

972
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: part of the same batch of this animal experimentation that

973
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: the High Evolutionary is doing. Now, these are evolved up

974
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: animals that have been given various kinds of cybernetic implants,

975
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: very rough and very hard to look at ones. But

976
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: so these friends of Rockets are Lela, who is a

977
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: seattter with metal arms, Thiefs, who is a walrus with

978
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: big wheels for hind legs, and Floor who's just like

979
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: a very delightful, very sunny, very very optimistic little bunny

980
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: rabbit with kind of a racknid metal racknid.

981
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: Legs and a scary mouth.

982
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: And a scary mouth, and they all get to they

983
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: all create names, these names for each other, and they

984
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: all bond over the idea that one day Master the

985
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: High Evolutionary is going to create this utopia which ends

986
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: up being counter Earth and they are going to get

987
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: to live there in freedom and stare at the sky.

988
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: And it is fucking heartbreaking. Ship Yeah, real talk like

989
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: it is really, it is hard. And again this is

990
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: where if you have it, if you have to want

991
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: to take a young kid to this, it's gonna be

992
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be rough, because like me and as adults,

993
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is rough.

994
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: It's truly and it makes you hate.

995
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: You fucking hate the High them. You will hate the

996
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: High Evolutionary.

997
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: And if you have read the Grant Morrison Frank Quietly

998
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: comic from Virtego, we three.

999
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: We suggested it on one of.

1000
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: Our Yeah, we've suggested it in the past. Is it's

1001
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: such a brilliant comic. It's heartbreaking, but it's hopeful, and

1002
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: it essentially works as a story about three animals who

1003
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: are created as prototype weapons and their kind of journey

1004
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: to freedom. And it is very I think fair and

1005
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: likely to say that that was a huge influence on

1006
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: Floor and Rockets journey. And I'm Grant James Gunn is

1007
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: a huge fan of Grant Morrison. We know Grant's work

1008
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 2: will be a large part of their next steps at DC.

1009
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: So it's kind of wild to see a little version

1010
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: of We three come to life, especially in Flaw, who

1011
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: I feel like is very similar to the rabbit in

1012
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: that pirate who is just heartbreakingly sweet and optimistic in

1013
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: the way they talk. It's really brutal stuff. I'm very

1014
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: it's very brutal. X Ray Vision will be.

1015
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1029
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: is in his pyramid shaped corporate headquarters on counter ears

1030
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: and the Guardians figure out that he's there, and the

1031
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: High Evoution she knows that they know he's there, and

1032
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: in fact, he has set this trap because he wants

1033
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: to write a Raccoon. The Guardians have Rocket Raccoon, and

1034
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: he knows that they need the key in order to

1035
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: unlock the corporate trademark lock on Time lock on Rocket's

1036
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: Heart in order to save his life, and this will

1037
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: allow the High Evolutionary to have Rocket basically delivered right

1038
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: into his clutches, and it kind of works. So the

1039
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: Guardians go to the corporate headquarters and there's a big

1040
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: fight there and one of many shootouts in the movie.

1041
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: One of many shootouts many evolutionary.

1042
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh, we should add that Adam Warlock, who is saddened

1043
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: at the death of Aisha in one of the one

1044
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: of the previous scenes, goes to counter Earth, basically gets

1045
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: his clock cleaned and then kind of soft joins the

1046
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy, or at least like adds some.

1047
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what we learn about the High Evolutionary, and

1048
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: we can assume that the Sovereign is one of the

1049
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: lucky communities. This didn't happen to He has gone through

1050
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: history creating these new worlds and then destroying them if

1051
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: they don't live up to his right, you know. So

1052
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: when they got to counter Earth and counter Earth is

1053
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: going to be destroyed because there's these drug problems as homelessness,

1054
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: he wants to do it again. I thought the Guardians

1055
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: might try and save counter Earth, but it's too late.

1056
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: They're already destroying it. They're always happening.

1057
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: So Peter and Peter and group get the code, get

1058
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: the past code from the head of the Assistant to

1059
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: the High Evolutionary.

1060
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: His and not just like his memory, his literal head.

1061
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: They killed him and take the head and take the

1062
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: peace out of the head. And while this is going on,

1063
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,959
Speaker 1: the High Evolutionary has triggered the destruct of counter Earth,

1064
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: all of counter Earth and the Untold millions, if maybe

1065
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: not billions of animal hybrids that live there are all

1066
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: in the process of being destroyed. Peter gets the code back,

1067
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: they save Rocket's life, and as they are saving his

1068
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: life in the present, we get the flashback of basically

1069
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: how Rocket escape from the clutches of the Higher. He

1070
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: discovers that the High Evolutionary plans to kill all of them,

1071
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: kill his friends, kill them all, so he played. He

1072
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: puts into motion an escape plan which he had apparently

1073
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: been been working on all of this time.

1074
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: He had hidden little.

1075
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: Pieces of machinery all around his cage, and he puts

1076
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 1: them together and it's a key in order to escape.

1077
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: He escapes from the crate, opens the other cage to

1078
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: get the other animals out, but the High of Issue

1079
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: shows up with his guards. They open fire, and very

1080
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: very very sadly Rocket's friends are killed. Rocket flies into

1081
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: a rage. He jumps onto the High lutionary and just kicks,

1082
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: just tears, literally tears his face off, and then jumps

1083
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: in a spaceship and escapes, and then you know, we

1084
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: don't know what happens until we catch up with him

1085
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: at the beginning of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume one.

1086
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: Now we learn about that. And then as they're working

1087
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: on Rocket, it seems like it seems like it's not

1088
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: going to work. They've unlocked his heart, but it's the

1089
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: heart isn't beating and Rocket is near death in his

1090
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: in some kind of limbo state, his consciousness is walking

1091
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: into a light. He sees his friends, he sees Lilah

1092
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: comes to him, and this is again, I'm like actually

1093
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: getting choked up. Talkdah.

1094
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to be crying at this.

1095
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: Lilah comes to him, tiefs and floor there in the background,

1096
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: and and he's so happy to see her. And he's like, oh,

1097
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: finally I can just be with my friends and like, yeah,

1098
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: we can be together.

1099
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: We're going to do that.

1100
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: Lila tells him We're going to be together one day

1101
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: and just stare at the sky, all of us together

1102
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: and be friends. He's like, this is so great. I

1103
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: finally I can rest. And then she puts her metal

1104
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: hand on his chest and she says, but not now,

1105
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: because you still have something to do. He needs to

1106
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: go back and he needs to fight with the Guardians

1107
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: and free all the children that are the current experiment

1108
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: of the high evolutionary.

1109
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: So he comes back to life.

1110
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: They go to the High Evolutionaries now space borne Pyramid,

1111
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: they invade it, they free all the kids.

1112
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: There is a.

1113
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: Wonderful So the High evolution has put out the alert like, okay,

1114
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: all forces be on alert for the Guardians, get me

1115
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: Rocket Raccoon by any means necessary, kill the rest, and

1116
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: do what you have to do to get them. That

1117
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: sets up and this is a wonderful subversion. We've talked

1118
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot on this podcas about about the third act

1119
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: big fight problems that Marvel often encounters. Right, I think

1120
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: this is one of the smartest, if not the smartest

1121
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: subversion of that trope that Marvel has done yet. So

1122
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: rather than have this big showdown with the High Evolutionary,

1123
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: right the big Boss, the big fight is with his henchees,

1124
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: including these half animal, half android cyborg creatures and a

1125
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: bunch of human guardsmen. And it is awesome.

1126
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: They do such a good job. But it has this

1127
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: great these large one shots, this really interesting use of

1128
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: slow motion. It really speaks. I think it's a great

1129
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: callback to some of the earlier fights that really made

1130
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: Guardian stand out. But it's been streamlined to the point

1131
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: where when you see it on that big screen it's

1132
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: incredibly impressive.

1133
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: It it recalls the fight on running the User Ship

1134
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: from the first one, but with the kind of scope

1135
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: and ambition and general coolness of the Big Infinity War. Yeah,

1136
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: totals fight like it's that kind of thing.

1137
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: But moral question you mentioned this, You mentioned the cyborg

1138
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: animal hybrid kind of characters who are used as part

1139
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: of the body count for the high evolutionary what are

1140
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: the morals here? Like, we're saving the ones who look

1141
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: like humans. Rocket was one of the ones who was

1142
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: unfinished and was kind of androidy. I feel like that's

1143
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: one of the things for me where I was left

1144
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: thinking about it afterwards, where I was like, who gets saved?

1145
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: And how do we try and save them? And I

1146
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: understand they didn't have a lot of time to answer those.

1147
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a moment where I did want I

1148
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: did find myself wishing for some kind of just even

1149
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: a line about how sad they were, you know, like

1150
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: something in the Matrix. I remember that moment in the

1151
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: Matrix where where Nea, where Neo is having explained to

1152
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: him that everybody they see in the Matrix is a

1153
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: person and that occasionally that means they're going to have

1154
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: to kill people who are plugged into the matrix. But

1155
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is because they're trying to

1156
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: free everyone. In order to free everyone, they're going to

1157
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: have to fight these pieces of the system that are

1158
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: trying to imprison them. I found myself wishing that there's

1159
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: something some kind of justification like that, where it's like, listen,

1160
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: we wish we could free these very very aggressive and

1161
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: hyper violent and hyper loyal creations of the High Evolutionary.

1162
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: We can't because they're trying to kill us. I did

1163
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: find myself wishing that had happened, but that does not

1164
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: happen until they just kill them all. But there's a

1165
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of killing, and it's the fight seat is freaking incredible.

1166
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: And then the final showdown with the High Evolutionary is

1167
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: a really cathartic, like one minute fucking beat down the

1168
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: High Evolutionary with his gravity powers that he upgraded his suit.

1169
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: Ever since Rocket tore his face off, he's like never

1170
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: again and gave himself gravity powers. Well, Rocket had created

1171
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: a kind of like anti gravity power device that he

1172
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: then triggers after a little while of getting thrown around

1173
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: by the High Evolutionary, and he just proceeds along with

1174
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the Guardians to beat the living tar

1175
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: out of the high evolutionary who then lies, you know,

1176
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: before them, And everybody's like, okay, well, Rocket, if you

1177
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: want to fish them off, you go ahead and do it.

1178
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: And then Rocket says, no, I won't because I'm a

1179
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: guardian of the galaxy. I won't and which is again

1180
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: a very very noble statement, which comes after they kill.

1181
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 2: Are creatures.

1182
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean, there's literally a moment where we get within

1183
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: the now Staalo is saying to Drags, we can't kill

1184
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: anyone with Gudians, that's what we do. And then Staloard

1185
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: and Groot go into a room where group pulls out

1186
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: many guns, which I will say, I do not believe

1187
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 3: he needs to kill people. But and then christ Stalald says,

1188
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 3: kill them all.

1189
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: But now you don't kill if you're a guardian. I

1190
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: feel like there is a morally complex conversation to be

1191
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: had there. But I understood where Groot was. I understoodhere

1192
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: Rocket was coming from because he has been tortured and

1193
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to enact that violence on the man

1194
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: who did it to him.

1195
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this when Peter Quill says kill them all.

1196
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: At that point, I was absolutely on the side because

1197
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: all of the people in that room were human enable

1198
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: c sweet followers of the High Evolutionary, not the hybrid

1199
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: Ania guards. It was just like the most evil top

1200
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: level cadre of the High Evolutionary, and I was absolutely like, yeah,

1201
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: get to get rid of I don't want to see

1202
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: any of them.

1203
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with it.

1204
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: So they take the other High Evolutionary and as the

1205
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: High Evolutionary's ship is crashing, they then go on a

1206
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: mission much like Noah's Ark, to save as many of

1207
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: the creatures that are on this crashing corporate headquarters as

1208
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: they can. They start with the sentient creatures, so it's

1209
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: like the very very smart animal hybrids who aren't still

1210
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 1: trying to kill them, and this race of white haired

1211
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: children who was again the latest experiment that the High

1212
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: Eblution is working on.

1213
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: They get all the kids.

1214
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: Off the ship, but then Rocket you know, visits the

1215
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: area where he was kept in the cages and decides, no, no,

1216
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: we're saving all the animals too, and the monsters and

1217
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: the battery eating monsters three of them. From the beginning

1218
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: of Guarnian's The Galaxy Too, there's three of them kept

1219
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: on this corporate headquarters, and they Mantis basically turns them

1220
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: into friends, which then made be retroactively sad that they

1221
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: slice that one open.

1222
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: Yiz. She actually realizes that they are not inherently aggressive creatures,

1223
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: just themselves. They just want to eat a battery. This

1224
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: is all they want. I love to see Mantison her

1225
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: new monster buddies. So yeah, they save everyone, and everyone

1226
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: ends up on Nowhere, which I'm very glad that Celestial's

1227
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 2: head was so big, because you're talking about a population

1228
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 2: bump of like at least five thousand.

1229
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: So there's all these are tearing animals now on Nowhere,

1230
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: and one would imagine all these children creations of the

1231
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: High evolutionary and some hybrid creations. And they join a

1232
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: ragtag cast that was already living on Nowhere, including Kraglin,

1233
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: who helps out in the big fight and successfully learns

1234
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: to use Yondu's whistle needle in a wonderful moment where

1235
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: he kind of sees the visage like a vision of

1236
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: Yondu like basically urging him on, saying, like you could

1237
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: do it, you can use this weapon. As they're defending

1238
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: Nowhere from the creations of the Highlustrey it's a nice moment,

1239
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, from a now deceased child multiple time child traffic.

1240
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: The broker is hanging out with them on Nowhere.

1241
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cosmo, she's doing some cool telekinesis. She's a good dog.

1242
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: She's very very powerful.

1243
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,520
Speaker 1: Now we see she's able to keep Nowhere and the

1244
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: corporate headquarters, the high lushite corporate headquarters like in parallel

1245
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: orbit for a period of time just using her teleconnect powers,

1246
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: which is wow.

1247
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: Like Gene VP, Cosmo MVP.

1248
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: There's a wonderful subplot with Kraglin and Cosmo where he

1249
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: calls her a bad dog and it really just bothers

1250
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 1: her for basically the entire movie.

1251
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really great. And then he finally she gets

1252
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: a good dog moment when she smashes some people with

1253
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: some giant rocks. So all good stuff.

1254
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: Love con Peter once again survives the vacuum of space.

1255
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna die.

1256
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was done. No Guardian perishes, shocking twist,

1257
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: shocking twist, but the original team does break up. Peter decides,

1258
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I've got some unfinished business on Earth.

1259
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: My grandfather's still alive. I'd like to go visit him.

1260
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: Jack says, I don't even know who I am. I've

1261
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: been fighting all this time. I've now met He really

1262
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: had an immediate connection and affinity with these children created

1263
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: by the Evolutionary, and it makes him think of what

1264
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: he missed with his daughter who was killed by Thanos,

1265
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: and now he's basically gone off to raise these kids.

1266
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: Mantis also leaves because honestly, being an EmPATH is wearying,

1267
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: and she's just been carrying the emotional baggage of all

1268
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: of this team for all of this time. She's fucking burnt.

1269
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: Out and she needs to know who she is. So

1270
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: she takes some battery eating monsters and off they go.

1271
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: A beautiful you love it, you love to see it.

1272
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: And the new team who we see at the first

1273
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: stinger is Rocket Raccoon, Leader now retconned as basically a

1274
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: super genius.

1275
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: Who is accepted that he is a raccoon. He's accepted.

1276
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: He would always say it, said.

1277
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: It on his cage, So he finally he says, I

1278
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: am I guess so, Leader Rocket Raccoon Cosmo, Yes, which

1279
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: I think wonderful edition perfect.

1280
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: One of the children rescued from the High Volutionary, who

1281
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: we discover is fi leavel I.

1282
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: Would say almost certainly, with the purple flaming hands that

1283
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: seemed to be able to create weapons. Very cool deep cut.

1284
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: Addition, there Adam Warlock, the baby, the baby, He's that

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Speaker 1: he's being charm and he's being bumbling, he's bringing a

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Speaker 1: Hugron energy to the entire thing, and and swollen Groot

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Speaker 1: and it's a wonderful and wonderful team. They're out out

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Speaker 1: in the galaxy just basically still for hire. And then

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Speaker 1: were where do we leave Peter? We leave Peter on Earth.

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Speaker 1: He goes back, he visits his grandfather, who recognizes him instantly,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's now an adult and less

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Speaker 1: like eleven. Something in the eyes, I would imagine, and

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Speaker 1: we leave them around the breakfast table just talking about

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Speaker 1: mowing lawns. And the words that come across the screen

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Speaker 1: as the movie ends are.

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Speaker 2: The legendary Staalowed will.

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Speaker 1: Ritton in what you might be asking, no one knows,

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Speaker 1: no one knows, all in all and emotionally powerful MSU film. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it depends your minds may

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Speaker 1: vary depending on how big a Guardians fan you are.

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Speaker 1: I like the Guardians. I love Rocket Raccoon. I Love Groot,

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Speaker 1: I Love Goamora.

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Speaker 2: The Goamor ending is actually my favorite part of the

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Speaker 2: while my first past this movie. We end up in

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01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,839
Speaker 2: a situation where so Nebula and Drags stay on Nowhere,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna raise these kids, They're gonna run. Nowhere is

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Speaker 2: like a safe space for people, safe safe home. And

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Speaker 2: rather than make Gamora and Peter fall back in love,

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Speaker 2: which didn't seem at all natural to the character are,

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Speaker 2: we get to see Gamura return to the Ravagers as

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Speaker 2: a hero, and there's this great kind of there's this

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Speaker 2: really wonderful five minute montage at the end that kind

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Speaker 2: of shows where everyone is set to the Florence and

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Speaker 2: the Machine song Dog Days are Over, which was definitely

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Speaker 2: emotionally manipulating me in a positive way. But Anna and

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Speaker 2: we see Gamura and when she returns to the Ravagers,

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Speaker 2: we get this great, like thirty second thing of this

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Speaker 2: is her found family and this version of the world

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Speaker 2: she fits in here. It's not the Guardians, it's with

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Speaker 2: the Ravagers, and they're hugging her and they're like do

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Speaker 2: it giving her, you know, they're rubbing their fists on

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Speaker 2: their head and it's just it feels really great, and

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Speaker 2: I love to not see them try and pull some

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Speaker 2: kind of fake romanced It would have felt really weird,

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Speaker 2: and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was nice to have, to your point, this kind

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Speaker 1: of parting where it's like Peter really wants it to happen,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't and he makes his peace with it,

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Speaker 1: and it just feels very earned and natural and honestly

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Speaker 1: with more returning to the Ravagers I have, I feel

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Speaker 1: like she will hear the horns of freedom when she dies.

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Speaker 1: She the colors of the colors of a gourd, the

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: colors of a gourd absolutely will flash over her grave

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01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: shouts to Goma. I found this again. I found this.

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Speaker 1: I thought visually it looks great for any of the

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Speaker 1: people who were disappointed by the kind of CGI tone

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01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: palette and esthetic texture of in the West Quantum Mania.

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: This is much cleaner, and.

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Speaker 2: It has a diary. It has a very clear vision,

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Speaker 2: and it's a very colorful, engaging, immersive vision. It fits

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Speaker 2: very well into that world of Guardians of the Galaxy.

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Speaker 2: It's a guardian's movie.

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Speaker 1: The creature work is unbelieved.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the creature work's unparalleled.

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 1: In high evolutionary is certainly one of the most evil

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: characters and the most effective villains that we've seen.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this about.

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Speaker 1: The animal experimentation stuff, which again, it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: for some people to peal it. I I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things that Marvel has struggled with in the

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Speaker 1: post endgame phases is stakes, and they've kind of fallen

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01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: back on stuff like, oh my daughter, Oh my family,

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: Oh this flashback of this thing that happened this uh,

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01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, Doctor SHARE's The Multiverse of Madness was like

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: this romance that like with Christine that like never really

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: got off the ground anyway when they were together. And

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Speaker 1: so I do respect that they went to a place

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Speaker 1: that we hadn't seen before to create the steaks m

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Speaker 1: h to make you hate the villain, but it is

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Speaker 1: something that will be I think hard for people who

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Speaker 1: love animals and kids to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my biggest I have very complex feelings about the

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Speaker 2: whole movie, But my biggest kind of takeaway is that

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: I love that we live in a world where a

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 2: movie this weird can be seen as a commercial movie.

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Speaker 2: It is extremely weird. It swings for the fences for me.

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Speaker 2: Some of that stuff lands for me, some of it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But this is a movie about a talking tree, a

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Speaker 2: talking raccoon, aliens and they're fighting their way through organic

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Speaker 2: space stations to save human animal hybrids, and it's probably

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Speaker 2: going to be one of the biggest movies of the year.

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Speaker 2: And that is the power of comic books to me,

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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: and comic book storytelling, and that's the thing that still

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 2: makes me excited about these movies and the potential that

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Speaker 2: they have.

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned the space hog drop where they're

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01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: kind of footing towards Org Corp. There are lots of

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01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: moments like this where, for no reason at all other

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01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: than James gunn is in his bag tying up a movie,

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: he'll give you a slow mo shot or a three

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: six year camera angle, or this this shot that lingers

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: on the character's faces, or the weird way they float

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: through space, and there are there are many of these

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01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily need to be there, and if they

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01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: do kind of need to be there, they certainly don't

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01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 1: need to be that long.

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 2: But the weight of all.

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01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: Those things makes it such a unique visual experience.

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01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: And those were some of my favorite things. Those were

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01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: some of my favorite things. Those moments where you lingo

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01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: way you give the time, to the atmosphere, to the vibe,

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01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: to the character, to the story. That's the stuff that

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01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: makes this really hit.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think star Lord TV show?

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01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: Is that what they're gonna do? It legendary s what

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna he's Is he gonna be Captain America?

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01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: Is he not Captain America?

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Speaker 4: No?

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01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: But I'm dead serious. Is I would cry of the

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Speaker 1: Avengers team.

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01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,480
Speaker 2: You know what they're doing, They're gonna need a cosmic Avengers.

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 1: I will say, he will be on the Avengers team.

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: He will. You can take that. Look, the truth is

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01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna need a cosmic Avengers because.

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01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: He knows about celestials. You've lived in a celestial head.

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01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: Whatever happens next, there's gonna be a lot of cosmic

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01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: multiversal Shenanigan. So having somebody who has connections to the celestials,

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 2: the eternals know that stuff in a creepily oversight type fashion.

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that they were probably aware that somebody

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01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: on Earth is part celestial you know, So I think

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01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: you're right. I think a legendary star Lord type appearance

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: in the Avengers team as a leader or co leader

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01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: of I think there will be many Avengers teams as

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: we lead into this next phase.

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01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Space Team, Earth Team.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very likely. I also do think the

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: legendary staraloed I think that sounds like a Disney Plus

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01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: show and you do it where he's going around the

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01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 2: galaxy kind of having very Guardians esque fun. But we'll

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Speaker 2: have to wait and see, because I don't know. I

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: think that people who really love these movies, they love

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01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: James guns Guardians of the Galaxy, So what does that

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: look like without him?

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see. That has been our

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Speaker 1: coverage of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three, the end

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: of this iteration of the team and certainly the end

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01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: of James Gun's relationship with the MCU, although it certainly

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01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: seems like James Gunn's brother will continue for a while

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01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: seeing as how Kraglin is on the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I think so that's as right. Yeah, like

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: these the truth is that actors exist in both these

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: worlds Marvel DC otherwise as well, and I think that

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01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: will continue with James at d C and James having

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: such a deep history at Marvel, and these movies in

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01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: general not necessarily becoming the billion dollar blockbusters that the

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01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: corporations want them to be. We're not far away from

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: a Marvel d C crossover, and James is somebody who

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Speaker 2: I think would be very interested in that. Up next,

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: Verte out in Today's that outweayh you tell us what

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: you love, am why or a theory that you're excited

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01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: to share. Tony shares a Star Wars theory.

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01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Tony writes us, I can learn out about a great

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01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 1: many things, but Star Wars and the Marvel Universe comics

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: and movies are near the top of my list. Long

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01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: story short, my Star Wars fan theory is that the

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01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: down Star Destroyer we see at the beginning of The

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01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Force Awakens is Thran's Chimera or Chimera two.

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01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: If the Parnel completely.

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01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: The shortage of Da Da, I think that the climax

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 1: of Dave Filoni's movie This is Good, that is the itself.

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: The culmination of the Star Wars streaming shows to this

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01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 1: point will be the Battle of Jaku.

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01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: I would love to see it.

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: Which we don't see, but happens, you know, before we

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 1: catch up with the events of the Force Weekends. Dave

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01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: filoni saga has run in parallel with the cinematic saga

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: to this point, telling its own story but referring its

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: strategic times to the large rebellion, and this event offers

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01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to do both. We will see all

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01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: of our streaming heroes come together, including a full on

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: live action Rebels reunion complete with Freddy Prince Juior as

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: Gaiden's forest Ghost. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: People really want to see it. They really want to

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01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, and you know what, he looks good like.

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01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: I think he's looking good.

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Speaker 2: Freddy could do it.

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Speaker 1: I theorize that we will also see other members of

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01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: the Dameran family more Cgi Luke Kelleron Beck and.

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01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: Lizzo with a blaster. I would love to see it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I hope that there's an appearance by the young

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01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Vice Admiral Holdo. They will all come together in an

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Speaker 1: Adventures endgame style galactic Straverganzi thanks for an extremely entertaining podcast,

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: and May the Force speed. Thank you. It's May third today,

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01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: but you know, one day, ly me the Forced people

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: with you, I'll say this. We understand certainly there have

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01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: been rumblings that Star Wars, you know, the Star Wars

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01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: ip World and Kathleen Kenny want to do some kind

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01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: of team up. They've been hunting for a team up thing,

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01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: and I love this.

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01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 2: I think this would be such a cool way to

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01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: do it. And I mean it's kind of hard to

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: imagine because we live in a post MCU world, the

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01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: world whether MCU exists and kind of changed Hollywood. But

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01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: I mean a Star Wars event movie. Star Wars movies

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: used to be the event movie. So doing a Star

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01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: Wars event movie, you could be making the biggest movie

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: on earth, especially with how much people love the TV

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: shows and the movies, and to bring all of that together,

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01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: I think this itea sounds really cool. Tony. Keep this

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01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: one in your pocket, pitch it, pitch it to pitch

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01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: it to Lucasfilm. Thank you so much, Tony. If you

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01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: have theories or passions you want to share, hit us

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: up x ray at cricket dot com instructions in the

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Speaker 2: show notes. That's it for us.

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Speaker 1: Rosy and he plugged.

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Speaker 2: I will be at Jeffrey's Comics in the LA area,

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Speaker 2: specifically Torrents, one of my favorite places in the whole

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Speaker 2: of America. I will be there with so many other

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Speaker 2: cool artists on Free Comic Book Day. You can come

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Speaker 2: and get free comics. And if you are not in

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Speaker 2: our area, your comic book shop will have free comics.

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Speaker 2: It is the rule of free comic book Day. May six.

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Speaker 2: You can go there, you can grab comics, maybe they'll

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Speaker 2: you could give some donations of some food. Lots of

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Speaker 2: different shops do it different ways, but you'll be able

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Speaker 2: to get free comics. And if you come to Jeffrey's,

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Speaker 2: I will be there signing things. I'll have some new

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Speaker 2: zines that I'm making to prep you. Actually, four Guardians

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Speaker 2: in the Galaxy have some fun new zines about some

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Speaker 2: of the characters and their comic book history that will

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Speaker 2: be free. I will also have Godzilla stuff that you

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Speaker 2: can buy. It will be rad And I will again

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Speaker 2: say check out the Hero Initiative because they do a

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Speaker 2: lot of amazing stuff for the creators who made these

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Speaker 2: characters possible, and made this whole world possible, and made

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Speaker 2: the state of Hollywood today possible. So check out the

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Speaker 2: Hero Initiative and support it where you can.

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Speaker 1: I will plug the WGA, the Writer's Guilts of America.

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Speaker 1: We're currently on strike against the Alliance of Television and

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Speaker 1: Motion Picture Producers. Here's the thing. These corporations are enormously profitable,

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Speaker 1: enormous profits. The CEOs, the eight CEOs of these corporations

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Speaker 1: all together made like more than three quarters of a

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Speaker 1: billion dollars eight hundred million dollar range, which if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're scoring at home, is more than the two

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Speaker 1: percent raise that writers are asking for. And there are

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Speaker 1: various other problems. I want, I want bar with you

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Speaker 1: with them, all of which is to say, these studios

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Speaker 1: sell one thing, and that is the stories the writers write.

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Speaker 1: And we're at a stage now where writers, if my

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Speaker 1: only job was writing for I would not be able

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Speaker 1: to be living. It would be very, very tough because listen,

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Speaker 1: you might make you might make a good rate on

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Speaker 1: a weekly basis, but you might only do eight or

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Speaker 1: ten weeks of a mini room and then not be

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Speaker 1: able to find anything for three months, four months, six months,

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Speaker 1: eight months, a year, because it's getting harder and harder.

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Speaker 1: And we talked a lot and joked a lot about

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Speaker 1: the gig economy on this podcast, but the sus basically

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Speaker 1: want to create a world in which writing for TV

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Speaker 1: is a gig economy. They'll pay you by the day,

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Speaker 1: they'll have AI kind of create the outline, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe they'll hire a couple of kids, like on a

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Speaker 1: day rate, to punch it up whatever the computer created,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll put that out as cheaply as possible

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Speaker 1: so that the CEOs could continue to garner their enormous, enormous,

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Speaker 1: enormous paychecks, and so that they can serve not the

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Speaker 1: not the interests of the people who assume stories or

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Speaker 1: the people who create the stories, but the shareholders. Again,

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Speaker 1: these corporations are seeing enormous profits, because the profits aren't

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Speaker 1: the kind of profits that scale at the level that

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Speaker 1: Wall Street likes. All of this is seen as a failure.

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Speaker 1: David Zaslav pulled in some three hundred million dollars last year,

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Speaker 1: and this is for the you know, basically shepherding Discovery

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Speaker 1: into buying a thing that it can't afford, which resulted

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Speaker 1: in numerous layoffs, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Seeing billions of dollars of debt.

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Speaker 1: So support your WGA writers. Support writers, post about them.

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Speaker 1: If you see posts from writers on any of your

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Speaker 1: social media platforms, give them your support. They would they

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Speaker 1: would appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: If you do want to be bored. My stories on

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Speaker 2: my Instagram are a source of constant WGA information. I

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01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 2: have many links to many stories, many different posts places

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Speaker 2: where you can go and pick it with our friends

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Speaker 2: in the WGA. So if you want to be bored

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Speaker 2: by it, Rosie marks my stories. That's what I'm using

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Speaker 2: them for at the moment, is just to share the

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Speaker 2: stories of writers, the realities of what this is like,

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Speaker 2: because even this job wouldn't exist for us if people

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Speaker 2: didn't write these stories.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's very correct. Catch the next episode on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: May tenth for more market moves and return to the

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Speaker 1: wilderness with Yellowjackets on the believed Showtime network.

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Speaker 2: You are not ready for that one, And you can

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01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: also subscribe on YouTube, where you can now watch four

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01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 2: episodes of the show. Sometimes we are here on Zoom.

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01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes we are in the fancy studio. You can follow

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01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: us at XRV pod on Twitter, where we share all

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01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 2: kinds of cool things and you'll get to keep up

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01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 2: with the podcast and check out our discord. You can

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01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: join by going to the show notes. Hang out with

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01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: a ton of amazing fans and listeners who talk about

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01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: all kinds of cool stuff and very in depth ways,

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Speaker 2: and me and Jason show up there sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Five star ratings. Five we gotta have them. You gotta

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Speaker 1: give it to us. Here's one from Alison Gower. Absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun to listen to you. It's a great

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Speaker 1: way to bond with my teen son, who, like me,

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01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: is a huge comic Marvel DC fan. We've listened together

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Speaker 1: and he often stops you to explain more to me.

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Speaker 2: No notes, Love you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, awesome Alison, and shouts to your

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01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: wonderful son. X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production.

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Speaker 1: The show is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin.

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01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: The show is executive produced by myself and Sandy's Rhard

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01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 1: are editing in sound design, Who's by Vascilla's Photopoulos. Dylon

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01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Villanueva and Matt de Group provide video production support. Alex

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Speaker 1: wella Ford handle social media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for

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Speaker 1: theme music. See you next time, folks.

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Speaker 2: Bye