1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking? Move the sticks DJ Bucky together 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: here Buck in Kansas City. It looks nice outside, But 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: as as you can imagine her this week, I don't 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: know that I'll go out there until Wednesday. So just 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: sit out here trying to polish up some prep work 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: here as we get ready to go. Man, how you doing. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm good. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: I'm glad that the week is finally here. Draft week 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: is is a big chaotic, but you can see the 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, light at the end of the tunnel. I 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: think the big thing for me is always the curiosity. 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: It's one thing for us, you and I to evaluate 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: prospects and kind of talk about how the pieces of 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: the puzzle shift fit for teams. It's another thing to 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: see what teams really think about it. And as we 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: get closer, you begin to get some of the intail 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: from teams and some of the things that they thought 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: the entire time that are radically different in the way 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: that you may. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: View a player or a series of players. 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: And those things, and so it's fun to kind of 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: see how it all plays out. Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You know, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: because then we get schedule released, we get mini camps 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: and training camps, we get some kind of put it 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: all together. 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. By the way, my sandwiches get brought 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: in here. 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, I bought this the door. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Hold on once, that's the big news. Hold on, you know, buck, 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: you got to get into can you want to get 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: into scouting mode as we get towards the draft is 33 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: you've got to have a Jimmy John sandwich rails. It's like, 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, what have we even doing? So here's here's 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: what I do today. Let's uh, you've got your final 36 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: top five, I got my tinal final top one fifty. 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: We'll touch on some of those you know, movement that 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: we might have had in those spots, and then we'll also, uh, 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I think we should kick things off just latest stuff, 40 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, top ten. What we think not only what 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you're hearing, but like, can we can we just make 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: an agreement? Is something we've always tried to do do 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: here on move the sticks, which is I don't know 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: you some common sense? Can we can we do that? 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Can we bring some common sense to this? 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: We can? We can definitely these ride to bring some 47 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: commisons to the madness that we've been dealing with the 48 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: last few weeks. 49 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: For sure. 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's go Bryce Young. I think we're both 51 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: on the same page. It's going to go one to Caroline. 52 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't think when you spend any time there it 53 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: will be a shock of all shocks if that doesn't happen. 54 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: So we get to Houston at too. A couple of 55 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: things I wanted to bring up there because the and 56 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: this is again we give our buddy lanzer Line credit 57 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: for this because he was the first on this. And 58 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: there's been a lot, a lot of chatter about two things. 59 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: Number one, not taking a quarterback right and number two, 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson over Will Anderson. So there's two parts to 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: this thing here. I want to talk about the second 62 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: one quickly, which is I can understand why somebody would 63 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: take Tyre Wilson over Will Anderson, like I have Will 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Anderson overhim. You have Will Anderson overhim. But if you're saying, okay, 65 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: if this, if both these players hit the ceiling, then 66 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: you'd say, okay, Tyrey Wilson has more. He's just bigger 67 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: and longer and just rangier, like he probably had more 68 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: in there. If you can tap into that. Whereas I 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: think Will Anderson, as we always say, man, it's a 70 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: double all day long, like you are not messing on him. 71 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: We feel comfortable with him. But you know, I could understand. 72 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: I could wrap my brain around it. I don't agree 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: with it. I could wrap my brain around it if 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: he were to go ahead of Will Anderson. The part 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: that I can't wrap my brain around buck is them 76 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: not taking a quarterback. I can't. I hear it, we 77 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: all hear it. I can't. I can't do that. I 78 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: just when it comes time to put in your final 79 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: mock drafts, and I know what everybody's saying. Maybe I'm 80 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: just going to go away an idiot. I can't. I 81 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: can't have them not take a quarterback. 82 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. 83 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: But then here's here's the thing, like Dude to Will 84 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: Anderson Tyree Wilson debate, When I think about those two 85 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: DJ it reminds me not in terms of them being 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: the same type player, but it reminds me of the 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: debate that you would have with Davian Clowney and Khalil Mack, 88 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,559 Speaker 3: meaning that in Tyree Wilson you have the maybe more athletic, 89 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: more physically imposing pass rusher. But in Will Anderson you 90 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: had what Khalil Mack was, which was a powerful, technique 91 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: oriented player who you're banking on that technique, that power, 92 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: being able to get it done. And so I can 93 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: understand gambling on the upside, gambling on maybe the ceiling, 94 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: But there's just something with Will Anderson that I am 95 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: more comfortable saying, Hey, whatever he is in college, he's 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: going to be more like that than me saying the 97 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: same thing for Tyger Wilson. Tyree Wilson flashes, he has 98 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: nice production seventeen and a half sacks over those last 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: few years of Texas Tech. But Anderson's been the Markee name, 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: I mean for three years, and each of those three 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: years he delivered. From his freshman year on, he is 102 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: being the bell of the ball and he's lived up 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: to those things. And I think there's something too when 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: you have to carry that crown and carry that I'm 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: a known commodity but still have to deliver. There's something 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: to that as opposed to kind of flying under the 107 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: radar than your last. 108 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: Season, Like Boo, I'm the prospect. 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: So with a quarterback, I don't know, man, I think 110 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: some of this is, man, I think people overthinking when 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: we get to this time of the year. 112 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 2: There are times when you look at CJ. 113 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: Stroud over the course of the fall, you watch him 114 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: doing the College Football Playoff, and he looks. 115 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: Like what the NFL quarterback should look like. 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: And so I mean, we could talk about testing and 117 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: all this other stuff, but I just know when you 118 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: watch him play the game, I don't see anyone who 119 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: has issues in terms of that stuff. Yes, there's things 120 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: that he can clean up. He's not a perfect prospect, 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: none of them are. But to me, if you're going 122 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: to bypass on a guy like that, and you better 123 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: be right, man, because especially in your division where he 124 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: could come back and he's laid the dragon two times 125 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: a year, you just gotta be right. 126 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: You gotta be right. Here's here's where I am on 127 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: the those two topics, and I'll wrap up my thoughts 128 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: on both of them. I felt like with last year 129 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: with Hutchinson and Trayvon Walker, same thing. We're talking about 130 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: will Anderson and we're talking about Tyry Wilson. This is 131 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: not to say that I don't like. I mean, Tyre 132 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: Wilson I think is my fourth player, not that I 133 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: don't like him. It's not that I didn't like Treyvon Walker. 134 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: I think Travon Walker was my fifth player. But I 135 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: think there's a difference. Buck Sometimes I think we get 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: caught up, teams get caught up. I'm not trying to 137 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: find a defensive end to play in a movie. Yeah, 138 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a defensive end to playing a game. 139 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 140 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, wow, look at this. This is central casting. 141 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: Look at look at look at these guys. Man. Whereas 142 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: that's great, the other two guys are just better football players. 143 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Like that's who I come back to on that one. 144 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: So your thoughts on that that, don't get back put 145 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: up bow on the tracks. 146 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's something to it. There's a 147 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: lot of truth in that statement. At the end of 148 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: the day, you have the great people on how they 149 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: play ball. I mean, that's what it's about. We can 150 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: talk about the beauty paths, and we can talk about 151 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: how they look, how long they are and all those 152 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: other things. Production matters, production and performance over time. Like 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: that's what they're going to do. And I don't think 154 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: that you can ignore the production. The production of both 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: of the guys, we talked about the production Aiden Hutchinson 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: had a season ago was real and legitimate. We saw 157 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: that carry out and translate to production with the Detroit Lions. 158 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: I am confident that wherever Will Anderson goes, the production 159 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: that we've seen him do throughout this time at Alabama, 160 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: he's going to continue to do that. 161 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: Guys don't change, and. 162 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: So I just have a hard time thinking that he's 163 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: not going to be able to do those same things. 164 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: And so we'll see. 165 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a vision, maybe there's a plan that the 166 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: Texans have in place if they elect to go Tyree Wilson. 167 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: But I mean, you're passing up two things. 168 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: That would be here scratches that you could be called 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: in the question down the line. One not taking a 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: quarterback at two. Two taking a different pass rusher than 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Will Anderson number one. 172 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Those two things put a. 173 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Lot of pressure, put a bulls right right in your chest. 174 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: If those things don't go in your favor. 175 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, then other thing I would say on the quarterback 176 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: thing is, I know there's the theories of all the 177 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: take one at twelve and you know, take somebody else 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: at two. And we went down this Roadbuck, remember when 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: we talked about this. When you look at that, it 180 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: is a trail of tears. So say, you know we 181 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: debated it. I think there was like okay, well maybe 182 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: we could say three or four of those guys were 183 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: okay players Outside Lamar Jackson, it's not a great list, 184 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's just not either good enough to go. 185 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: If you're going to be my starting quarterback at twelve, 186 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: then shoot, I'm taking you at two. I swear to 187 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: you I would have more. 188 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: I would. 189 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: I would. It would make more sense to me if 190 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: Hennon Hooker was their guy, if they just said we're 191 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: taking Hendon Hooker with a second pick. Man, Hendon Hooker 192 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: is like my forties on my list, so that's higher 193 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: than I have him grated. But my whole thing is, 194 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: if you think he can be your guy at twelve, 195 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: then shoot, you might as well just take him at two, 196 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: because ultimately you're. 197 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: Great on how to play a plays? Yes, how did 198 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: they play? It doesn't matter when you pick him, how 199 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: do they play? What's the performance like? Once you get 200 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: him in the building, So it doesn't matter. The only 201 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: thing draft status does. It gives you pole position coming 202 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: into the building. You come in as a first round pick. 203 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: That means you get to the front of the line. 204 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: We expecting you to start right away, YadA, YadA, YadA. 205 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day is how do 206 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: you when you have your opportunities, what do you do? 207 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: How do you impact the game? And those things? And 208 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: given the impact of the starting quarterback in a league 209 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: that is governed by quarterback play and now governed by 210 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: young elite quarterbacks, you better get you a quarterback, because 211 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: we've seen it. 212 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: You don't have a chance if you don't have a 213 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: level quarterback. 214 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: And tying those two conversations together, while I like Will Anderson, 215 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: you like Will Anderson, and we both like Tyry Wilson 216 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: good football players, we both like Anderson over we've established 217 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: all that, the other side of it is we don't. 218 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't feel like this is a Nick Bosa. I 219 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: don't feel like this is a Mile Scart. I don't 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: feel like there's a Von Miller. So it's not like, 221 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, I saw Times video the other day. I 222 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: think he was on cow Hurt and he was like, 223 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, Nick Bosa's like you're gonna regret taking the 224 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: little quarterback. Blah blahlah blah blah, Like that's one of 225 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: those ones where man, I might not sleep right at 226 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: night knowing I'm passing up a potential Hall of fame. 227 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you'd have that issue here. I'm sitting 228 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: here thinking like, there's no guarantee that those top two 229 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: defensive ends are going to me significantly better than the 230 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: defensive end. You could take a twelve like you're gonna get. 231 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: You might get Nolan Smith, Lucas van S, whoever your 232 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: flavor is at that point in time. Like I just 233 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: that's why I just keep I keep going around circles. 234 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: But I'm like that take a quarterback at two. 235 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: They got to well, I mean like depending on how 236 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 3: they haven't graded, I don't know what the system would 237 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 3: would say, but to me, the grade is the grade 238 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: I gave CD Stroud a man, a very impactful grade. 239 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Now, I mean it's a solid first round grade. 240 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: This is coming off to the CFP, coming off a 241 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: bad games and everything, and so to me, it doesn't 242 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. And I felt like they 243 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: were separation between Bryce and this CJ. Stroud and the 244 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: rest of the pact. I don't see it as close 245 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: as some would see it. When it comes to Will 246 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: Levis or Anthony Richardson or whoever being the next one. 247 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: So I need to see it, like part of the 248 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: reason why I want to see what happens on Thursday nights, 249 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: we're hearing all this stuff. I can't wait to see 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: if it plays out, to see if people really felt 251 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: like that it was just a smoke screen the entire time. 252 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: And we did to spend a lot of conversation talking 253 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: about guys at the top of the board who would 254 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: never raided or viewed as guys that should have been 255 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: at the top of the board. 256 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt. All right, let's get to pick five. 257 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I'll take a quick little break here, so let's get 258 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: to three Arizona. You know, I know, we can say, gosh, 259 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: they would love to get out. Hopefully somebody would come up. 260 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: But when you look at it, in the last five years, 261 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: Buck in twenty twenty two, nobody no on draft Day, 262 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: no trades in the top ten, and twenty twenty one, 263 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the only trade in the top ten was Philly going 264 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: from twelve to ten, and twenty twenty no trades on 265 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Draft Day in the top ten. Twenty nineteen, the only 266 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: trade was Pittsburgh going to ten from twenty. Like if 267 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: you're going to move nowadays, if you're going to move 268 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: up into the top five, it's usually done well ahead 269 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: of time because. 270 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: You want to plan and you want to prep. You 271 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: want to have the opportunity to do everything you want 272 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: to play in prep. You want to be able to 273 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: invite the guys that are potential prospects to your facility 274 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: as one of your top thirty so you can get 275 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: a field form all of that. Like, no one wants 276 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: to have played this cute game today up Like it 277 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: looks great in movies it was great Kevin Costner and 278 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: all those guys moved around or whatever, But in real life, 279 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: you want you don't want to do that because you 280 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: want to plan and so you know, it has to 281 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: be a player that drives it. Like a lot of times, 282 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: and I want people to understand it because we always 283 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: get asked to talk about trades and stuff on path 284 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 3: or whatever. 285 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: But you just don't trade up for the sake of 286 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: just moving. 287 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: Uh, don't can confuse like John, will you to say 288 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: you don't mistake Like yeah, actually, like look but just 289 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: because we're moving around the board doesn't mean it. There 290 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: has to be a player that is worthy of moving 291 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: the needle like that. Now, if you're saying that Jalen 292 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: Carter didn't have the issues away from the field, Jalen 293 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: Carter's talent moves the needle where you could do it. 294 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: And so if there's an actual that I put by 295 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: one player, he would be the one player. And so 296 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: as much as we're hearing about the stuff all too field, man, 297 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: I don't know. D you have a hard time when 298 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: I look at the tape saying, Man, I'm good, I'm 299 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: taking a lesser player just because I just have a 300 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: hard time bypassing the talent that you see on a 301 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: player who played with first rounders and he's the most 302 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: dominant one when it wasn't even his turn to come out. 303 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That's that's why it's interesting to me. 304 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: So if we if we say kind of will Anderson 305 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: more than likely goes three Indy, if we're if we 306 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: if we go with Stroud at two, if we're talking 307 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: about that, then you get to Indy and I think that, 308 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of Levice smoke. There haven't 309 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: heard as much about Richardson, So I don't know what 310 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: that means. Maybe there's a reason they haven't talked about Richardson. 311 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Maybe Richardson's been their guy all along, but I tend 312 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: to believe it. It's I tend to believe in that 313 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: smoke with Levice there at four and then we get 314 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to five, and then it's Jalen Carter. No Jalen Carter. 315 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, we look at the edge rushers, but buck 316 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: they've got, uh whether Carter, Uh, Darryl Taylor coming off 317 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: a good year, Sheennon and Wilso who they you know, 318 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: who they got a really good year out of, who's 319 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: still really young, and who they just drafted. So it's 320 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: not like they're baron of They got young, talented edge ushures. 321 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: So what they don't have is that dynamic interior guy. 322 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: And then you could say, well, corners, they haven't drafted 323 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: a corner in the first round since Kelly Jennings that 324 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: they find they find those guys down there. 325 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: That's not their normal mo. 326 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: And even though I may have mocked a corner there, 327 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: but I mean the tea leaves would suggest that, man, 328 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to take an inside players that's. 329 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: A disruptive force. 330 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: Uh, you haven't had issues with players on your team 331 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: like you have a unique environment that allows all these 332 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: different type of personalities to flourish. I just have a 333 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: hard time thinking, man, I'm pep care I'm gonna turn 334 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: down a dude inside that can absolutely dominate the game 335 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: from inside out? Man to put him alongside? Was it 336 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Draymond Jones? Did they signed in the off season? Like, 337 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: you know what kind of problem is you can have 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: put Jalen Carter over top of the center and make 339 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: him turtle up over the course of sixty minutes, just 340 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: beating the center's head in. 341 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'll find it hard to do, 342 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: but I know this. 343 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: You notice the Detroit Lions have become increasingly more comfortable 344 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: with Jaylen Carter. 345 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: He doesn't get back to six, he doesn't get past 346 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: If he's there at six, the Lions take him. 347 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: And now you have the opportunity to put him on 348 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: the inside with Aiden Hutchinson, you have James Huston. I mean, 349 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: you talk about the Detroit Lions being able to put 350 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: together some goons at the. 351 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: Point of attack. I mean, that's the kind of defense 352 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: you want. 353 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I just I don't know. I don't 354 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: know who to put to Seattle and then then the 355 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: other thing is like, well, maybe Seattle's just gonna take 356 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and say forget it, like we're gonna, you know, 357 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: let him sit under Gino. We don't know if we'll 358 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: ever be picking up here again. So this gives us 359 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: our quarterback of the future. But man, I don't know. 360 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Pete, how many more years does Pete want 361 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: to do this? He want to sit and wait, like 362 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I feel like he feels like he's got a pretty 363 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: decent young team right now. 364 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: So everything they've done this off season has been an 365 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: attempt to recreate the twenty tens defense. You think about 366 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: what they've been able to pick up. So you talk 367 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: about Draymond Jones coming over. They bring back Jan Reid. Okay, 368 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: so imagine that Draymond Jones Jan Reid on the inside. 369 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: You now throw Jalen Carter in there to rotate with 370 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: those guys. 371 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: You have it. 372 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: They bring Bobby Wagner back. They signed DM Bush to 373 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: play linebacker. Jordan Brooks obviously eventually come back. They're moving 374 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: Jamal Adams down in safety two weeks side linebacker. 375 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: They signed Julian Love. 376 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: You have to reap willand and all those guys like DJ, 377 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: everything to me screams we want to get back to 378 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: play in the dominant defense that. 379 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: We played in the past, and so we can be like, nah, 380 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: we don't want an upfront guy because we're gonna take 381 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: another position. 382 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: To me, it just makes sense that they're gonna take 383 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: the Georgia defensive tackles just based on what they're trying, 384 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: just a vision that they have for. 385 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: How they want to play. 386 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've got some people in the league swear 387 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: to me they won't be scared of Jalen Carter and 388 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: other people said, now you know, you got to remember 389 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Malik McDowell on the issues they had with him, that 390 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: they won't want to go down that road. So I 391 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: got no blue buck. 392 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: Remember they took Frank Clark. Oh yeah, they've had me, 393 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: They've had Brandon Browner on their team. They've had guys. 394 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they've had Michael. 395 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: Bennett was Michael Bennett was an interesting guy. 396 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 3: So that doesn't I don't. I don't think that bothers 397 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: them and DJ where he's from. We talked about man being. 398 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: Top to Seattle. I don't think there's a direct flight 399 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: from a popcast. 400 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean about being able to just tuck away, far 401 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: away from everybody. To me, it makes sense you have 402 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: control over and market everything. To me, it just makes sense. 403 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: Interview a perfect fit, not only schematically, but I think 404 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: the type of hey coach he is dealing with the player. 405 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's interesting. We're gonna take a 406 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come back. We'll roll for the rest 407 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: of this top ten, maybe hit a couple of these 408 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: guys in the top fives, in the top one fifty, 409 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: and we'll wrap this bad boy up on a Monday 410 00:17:54,119 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: of draft. Wee to be back right after this, all right, Buck. 411 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: So then we get to uh, we get the six 412 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: here and you get to the Lions you've talked about. 413 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: If Jalen Carter was there, they take him. I mean, 414 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: it just feels like to me, it makes too much 415 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: sense with the corner. If Witherspoon's there, I feel like 416 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: that's a good match for them. 417 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 418 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: Now, Witherspoon is a great match. He's a great match 419 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: for anybody. Like his ability to play man his own Uh, 420 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: just how hard he plays, the preparation that he puts 421 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: into it. 422 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: If you want to gamble on somebody, you want someone 423 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: who is all in like that. 424 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Yep. So then we get to pick number seven with 425 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: the Raiders. You know, I look at the at the 426 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: offensive line and say, okay man, they could still they 427 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: could still use some help there. But then you know, 428 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I think about their kind of philosophy of you know, 429 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels, he's going to get the ball out quick, 430 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: and maybe they don't need that as is quite as 431 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: big a need at right tackle as maybe you or 432 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: I might look at it and uh, you know, I 433 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: can make a case for Skronsky. You can play right tackle, 434 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: you can plug in, play right guard, whatever he wanted 435 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: him to do. But I feel like they've got to 436 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: do something to help this defense. And in this case, 437 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have Tyree Wilson would still be would 438 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: still be out there. You didn't not get out of 439 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, but you were hoping to get out of 440 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones last year. 441 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: No, you certainly didn't do that. 442 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: And so Tyree Wilson would be in play at corner, 443 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: would always be in played, Christian Zalez, devinly withersp which 444 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: everyone is available. They have to be able to play. 445 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: You got to defend all those wide receivers in the division. 446 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: Let's have to say, because I think I saw this somewhere. 447 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if Peter King talked about this, but 448 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: there appears to be a lot of love for Paris 449 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: Johnson Jr. Like a lot of love, a lot of 450 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: people talking about he won't get past the Bears, And now, 451 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on him? 452 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Initially, that's a little high for me just where I 453 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: have him individually. But I've heard that same talk. I 454 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: think that teams there's a lot of split opinion out there. 455 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a tackle, so at the end 456 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: of the day, one of the things that gives me 457 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: some comfort with him is that if you look at 458 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: big ten tackles, who are you know, big, smart and 459 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: instinctive like those guys all play and they all play 460 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: for a long time. Now, I don't think he's a 461 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: great bender. I don't think he's you know. I don't 462 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: think he can drop his weight, sink his weight like 463 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: I would like to. I don't think he plays with 464 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: outstanding core strength. I think he needs to get physically stronger. 465 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's you know, I don't think 466 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: he's in the class of Rashan Slater. I don't think 467 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: he's in the class of Piney Seul. I don't think 468 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: he's in class of you know, the worspecting you know, 469 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, that whole group of guys. I don't think 470 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: he's in that group either. But I think he's a 471 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: solid player, and to me, he's actually, I guess technically 472 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: my top tackle because I kicked Skeronsky inside the guard. 473 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: But you know, tackles get pushed up buck You look 474 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: with those guys get paid in free agency, they don't. 475 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: They rarely hit the market. So if you need one, 476 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: you got to take one in the first round. That 477 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: that pushes those guys up. 478 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 479 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: No, It's funny because I had him initially as my 480 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: top offensive tackle because I Skoransky in the list and 481 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: I get going back and forth. I feel like he 482 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: was more athletic than Skoronski. I felt like his upside 483 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: and those things were intriguing. But at the end of 484 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: the day, I made a flip at the end, just 485 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 3: because when I see SCARANSI just from a technical standpoint, man, 486 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: he does all the things right, footwork, quick said, hands, inside, 487 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: all those other things. If he fails, he won't feel 488 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: because he doesn't have all the tools in the toolbox. 489 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: He just feels because he simply is overwhelmed. But I 490 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: just can't see that. Yeah, it's just an interesting debate, 491 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, seeing more of the love on him. And look, 492 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: I mean he was still up there. I mean I 493 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: had a second. He's still like a top twelve player. 494 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean, when you look at the row of spots 495 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: where the offensive line is coming, he's not coming off 496 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: later in you know, the mid first round. But it 497 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: is interesting to hear this conversation about him and some 498 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: of the other guys that kind of popped up. 499 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's you know. The interesting one to me 500 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: is when you look at Darnell Wright, I struggled with 501 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: where to put him at the end. It has showed 502 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: up a little bit out of shape at the Pro Day, 503 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: which some teams were concerned about that. So you've got 504 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: inconsistent play as a as a junior. You've got him 505 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: playing rate this year, really good at the Senior Bowl. 506 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: I thought he had a good combine workout, but then 507 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: just a little little ass shape at the Pro Day. 508 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I still kept him as the number two guy. But 509 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I've got I've got it. Paris Johnson, then him, then 510 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: Broderick Jones. So all through those guys stacked together, I 511 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: think sixteen seventeen eighteen overall my list. But again tackles 512 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: they're going to get pushed up, probably above where they're 513 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: great is just because the need and the supply is 514 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: not great. So we'll see what happens there. We got 515 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: to the Raiders that if we get to the Falcons 516 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: at eight buck you buying Are you buying or selling 517 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: on John Robinson's there? 518 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I like it. 519 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense if you 520 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: go and you look at how the franchise is operated. 521 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: When they've been at their best with a young quarterback, 522 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: they had a big time running back behind them. So 523 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: when Matt Ryan was there, they had Michael Burner Turner 524 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: and Michael Burner Turner those first two and a half 525 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: three years, he was able to leave you at a 526 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: lot of the pressure on Matt Ryan to carry the offense. 527 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: If Desmond Ritter is going to be your guy, an 528 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: opportunity to get b Jhon Robinson to go with Tyler 529 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: as Years and Kadaril Patterson, you make the move you 530 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: go for and so yes, I can see it and 531 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: also because Arthur Smith has a comfort level with kind 532 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: of creating a running game with a big time back. 533 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm all in on. 534 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: It, you know, the one, the one that I'm I'm 535 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: just kind of looking at their team and I'm curious 536 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: about because you mentioned you've got Algery, You've got Corderio Patterson, 537 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: You've got options back there, and now you've got Kyle 538 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: Pittson tight end. Hopefully he stays healthy for the whole year. 539 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: You look at Drake London, well he can bring to 540 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: the table. They brought over mac Collins. You know, you 541 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: think about Drake Lonnon mac Collins and now if you 542 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: if and I have not, I'm just literally thinking about 543 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: this on the flyers for doing this, but like Jackson 544 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Smith and Jig but would be kind of interesting for them. 545 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: Oh him in the slot. Put him in the slot 546 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: with that three lection. He kind of kind kind of fits. 547 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: Kyle pissed Drake London just in it's a passing leaving 548 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: three years in a road getting pass catchers in the 549 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: top ten, Well, they just paid. They just locked in 550 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: their offensive line. So that's you know, they're pretty set 551 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: there for the time being. So I don't know, I 552 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: just I'm looking at their group and how it kind 553 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: of comes together. And if you're going to go all 554 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: in on Ritter, I know one thing. If I'm getting 555 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: ready to push my chips in on a young quarterback 556 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: I've got on my team, you know, I'd be telling 557 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, hey man, I know we got we 558 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: need this, we need that, we need the other. But 559 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: in order for all of us to keep our jobs 560 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: and to keep this train rolling, we need the quarterback 561 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: to play good. So what what pick helps us help him? So, 562 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think the running back would accomplish that 563 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: in a big way. You know, Smith and Jiggo would 564 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: be interesting, but it'll be fascinating. I've been told a 565 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: lot of people think that they would get out, and 566 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: they would. You know, they might not even need a 567 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: huge return to get out of there. 568 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: So I mean, yes, me see if they Yeah, But 569 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: then once again, which player is going to drive. 570 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: That? Oh I'm gonna give who. 571 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get up the head trying to 572 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: get ahead of the who? 573 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 574 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean, And so the player will drive that market 575 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: as opposed to, oh, we want to be out, we 576 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: up for business. You have to want to get up 577 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: there to get somebody to give up additional picks to 578 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: give that player, and so depending on how to bor shakes, maybe, 579 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: but man, I think they may get stuck and have 580 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: to stick and pick. 581 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what they end up doing. Nine 582 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: the Bears. I feel like if Jalen Carter did somehow 583 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: get down there to them perfect Ryan Poles coming from 584 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Think about Chris Jones and his impact, I 585 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: could see him easily looking at that and saying, come 586 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: on in, we'll take our chances here, take a little 587 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: bit of a risk, and off you go. Philadelphia gets ten. 588 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: The last one we'll touch on here. You know, to me, 589 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at Paris Johnson, Peter Skroonsky, those 590 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: two guys because they love offensive lineman early. And then 591 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: I would look at two other guys. I would keep 592 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: an eye on Nolan Smith, give him a real fastball 593 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: off the edge, and Lucas Vans. I think those guys. 594 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: I think that decision is probably coming down those four guys. 595 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: Man's that's a good list. 596 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: It's not bad, right, which you know what tells you 597 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: if if more than a couple of them are there, 598 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: you can you can maybe slide back along. 599 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a good list and the options 600 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: are there. It kind of depends on what you want 601 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: to do when it comes to building out your team. 602 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: How quickly can you get one side of the ball 603 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: up and running. 604 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about that, like, hey, let's maybe 605 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: one side great and then do it and maybe I mean, 606 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can go wrong in this. 607 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: And are you if all those guys are there? Man, 608 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: what do you think offense defense been around the quarterback? 609 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 610 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think probably more defensive line. I 611 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: just think they'll look at that as kind of a priority. 612 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: You know, you've got you do have a little bit 613 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: of age there with Brandon Graham and think about Fletcher Cox, 614 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: like this is just one last hurrah with those guys, 615 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: so continuing to just add to that mix. It's a 616 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: nice little group that they've got going forward. When you 617 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: look at Jordan Davis plugging in, You've got Milt Williams, 618 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: who's young, explosive interior guy. You've got Sweat who's really Goodbviously, 619 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: we know what they have with the San Reddick, so 620 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: they could just I mean, they like the players, as 621 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: they like to say, with the Alpha and the Bravo units, 622 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, like all those, So give another fiecet so. 623 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: Dj I uh. 624 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: I did my mock draft last night, so I had them. 625 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 3: I think at the time I had them take a 626 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: pass rusher. I think Luke's VanNess was on the board, 627 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: so maybe it was Miles Murphy there. But then to 628 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: come back at the end of the first round and 629 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: take another inside outside combo guy like we talked about 630 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: a Keon White or somebody like that. Like, to me, 631 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 3: if the Eagles do that kind of stuff, you talk 632 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: about really cornering the market on just past rushers, like 633 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: deep talented. 634 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: Passers, so you could roll through there. 635 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: The one thing that I love about the Eagles their 636 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: philosophy is clear and everyone understands and he knows it. 637 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: So as much fun as we had like mocking b 638 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: Jon Robinson, it'd be great. Everyone knows that's not how 639 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: they get down. And so to me, like, I love 640 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: it because it's very clean and the parent this is 641 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: what we do. We don't we don't take running backs. Hi, Like, 642 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: this is what we do. We're going we can get 643 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: that value somewhere else, somewhere else. 644 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, your your final Top fives. I've 645 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: got my tin my final top fifty one fifty actually 646 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the both of those you can finals ont NFL dot Com. 647 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: Hardest decision, fuck, I'll give you the floor on that one. 648 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: Hardest decision for me. 649 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about Parris Johnson, uh Junior 650 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: and Skorronsky. That was probably one of the hardest ones 651 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 3: in just in terms of which one deserves to be 652 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: number one. 653 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: I finally flipped on Kin Kid and Michael Meyer. 654 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: That was a huge one for me because coming into 655 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: this I thought, man, I just thought Maya was going 656 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: to be the guy. But then as you just look 657 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: at what King k can do and all that other stuff, 658 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a surprise. You know, I'm sitting 659 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: here looking DJ. It wasn't a lot of like, I 660 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of movement, stay true, So this 661 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: either good or bad. 662 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: I think the guy that I am interested in it. 663 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see where Elijah Kansi go, Like, 664 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: where is he coming off the board after the combine 665 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: after stuff? 666 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: How are people comfortable with his size? That stuff? 667 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: Those were kind of like the hardest ones for me. 668 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 3: Everything else is pretty much status square. After you've done 669 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: it two or three times. Man, not a whole lot 670 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: of movement that you can really do, you know. 671 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: No. I had a couple of guys move up and 672 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: down a little bit on the overall list. But the 673 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: two debates that I was kind of working through my 674 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: head and the guys that were in the top fifty 675 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: one was was Banks the corner from Maryland versus Porter, 676 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: and I ended up sticking with Porter. I had Porter 677 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: the whole process, but that's one of those ones where 678 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: I if I I didn't sleep great with that one 679 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: because I thought, I think you can do more with 680 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Deontay Banks. I think he's more scheme versatile, and you 681 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: always talk about that, you know, you play up, can 682 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: you play off? Can do all the different things you 683 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: want to be able to do. I think he gives 684 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: you more of that think with Porter some of the stiffness. 685 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think he you know, I don't think 686 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: he's he's not playmaker. He doesn't get you get you'll 687 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: poke the ball away. We didn't finish you and make 688 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: plays on the ball. So to me, I ended up 689 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: with Porter kind of staying with him with the length 690 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: and the size, but I thought Banks won't shock me 691 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: if Banks goes ahead of him. Now, when the draft. 692 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: Gets you, Bank Banks is Banks has certainly been interesting 693 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: because when I initially looked at him, I thought he's fine. 694 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: But then the more you start thinking about the more 695 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: you look at the size and more look at the 696 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: athleticism exposumoness, some of the instincts kind of begin to 697 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 3: pop up. I can absolutely believe that there are plenty 698 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: of scenarios where Banks goes before Jeordy Porter Jr. 699 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: The one thing about Joey Porter Junior. 700 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: I felt like he was very limited in terms of 701 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: what he did, very nosed to nose, get some stuff off. 702 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 2: We've talked about it. 703 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: When it comes to like mocking him to the Washington Commanders, 704 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: I brought up like Josh Norman, and I'll Josh Norman play, 705 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: but when I look at Joey Porter Junior, not because 706 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: they're the same size of the same athlete, the way 707 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: they play is very similar in terms of how they 708 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: need to play in those things. But Josh Norman carved 709 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: out a nice career for himself, so Joey Porter and 710 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: JUNI can do that. He doesn't have the fluidity of 711 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: some of the other top guys, and so that's why. 712 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm a little probably down on him compared to some 713 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: of the other guys. 714 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. The last one 715 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: was I ended up again staying with Washington over Musgrave. 716 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: But I thought when you look at at Musgrave, he's 717 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: a more fluid he's a more dynamic afid. I' know, 718 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: if you you know, you look at how they Washington 719 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: ran a good time, but it's a different more of 720 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: a lumbering runner. Whi's obviously a big time asset in 721 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: the past game. I think if Musgrave had played a 722 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: whole season, if you had the only played two games 723 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: this year, if he had played the whole way through, 724 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I think Musgrave would have left over him. And I 725 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: think there's still a chance he gets picked ahead of Washington. 726 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think so. 727 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: I think it comes down to styles preferences. What do 728 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: you want to tie in position? If you're looking for 729 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: a traditional wide tight end that you really using as 730 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: your sixth offensive lineman with Darno and Washington is your guy, 731 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: I still he makes catches and plays. He's not a 732 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: route runner playmaker for me, He's an early down tight end. 733 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna run behind him. If we have two tight 734 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: ends on the field, he's the wide, the other guy's 735 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: the H. The passes are going to the H. So 736 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: a lot of it is beauty in the eye of 737 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 3: the beholder. What are you looking for when you're come 738 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: into the draft to get a tight end? Do you 739 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: want a traditional one or X one that are kind 740 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: of determine it, because right now I just think John 741 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: Washington is just an X. He's an oversized tackle who 742 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: is a I mean oversized tackle, who's really a why 743 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: he's a regular attached tight end. He's not a flex guy. 744 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: He's not a movement guy. He's not a pass catching guy. 745 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: He's in the line of scrimmage guy. 746 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 747 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm with him. So it'll be interesting to see 748 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: how those guys end up coming off the board. Any 749 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: other takeaways from your from your final list there, Bucket. 750 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it was difficult for me because, like DJ, 751 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: some some times it's hard doing these lists. When you're 752 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: trying to do multiple iterations, it's hard to try and 753 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: sort out. Okay, am I being stubborn and my egos 754 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: in the way, or do I need to relent look 755 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: at some more tape and maybe flip the cards, and 756 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: so I always debated, particularly because you released this last 757 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: one like a week before the draft. So now you're 758 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: just always trying to guard against what you're hearing versus 759 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 3: what you're seeing. I'm hearing they may go, but what 760 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: I'm seeing is I don't really love the product or 761 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: so that's always the most difficult part, the talkest part 762 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: of it. 763 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's easy to do when you're inside with the 764 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: team because you guys all know inside that building what 765 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: you feel about players and all the outside stuff you 766 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: don't care. It's hard when you're in the media thing 767 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: and you're balancing. Okay, like here's my top one fifty. 768 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Like a great example for me is like markte mop Whu, 769 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: the linebacker from sax Staateum, I love them, man. So 770 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, you talk to teams like you'll go in 771 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. I'm like, oh, he's my 772 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: seventy third player or something like that. Like to me, 773 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: he's he's an early third round player, so I know 774 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: he probably going to go later. But my job is 775 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: not to stack them how they're going to go. The 776 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: job is feel how do you feel about them? How 777 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: they how do you feel like they're going to play. 778 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: And that's the thing that's that's hard sometimes because when 779 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: we're doing draft line we see him, the boy get 780 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: picked apart like a chicken. We're like, yeah, I didn't 781 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: like him as much, but that's okay. At some point 782 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: we didn't have to snap the ball, put the ball down, 783 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: and we'll get chance to see him play and then 784 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: we'll see who's right after that. 785 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: But you can't there's a couple of corners there. There's 786 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: a couple of corners buck that if you're a zone team, 787 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: purely a zone team, they're gonna they might have these 788 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: guys in like the third or fourth round. They didn't 789 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: make my top one fifty because because personally, I'm like, 790 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: just for my taste, like if you can't run, I don't, 791 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what can I. 792 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: Do with you? 793 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: I value that. I value that because if I can't 794 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: line you up nose to nose at some point in 795 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: time and play like that, then those are those are 796 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: teams that I kind of doesn't work with what I appreciated. 797 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: So that's how I think. So I'm like, it's hard 798 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: to do this on the media side of things because 799 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: we don't we're not scouting for a scheme. We're not 800 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: scouting for a division. You know, all that kind of 801 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: stuff that's generic. But I kind of just say, you 802 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: know what, at the end of the day, like those 803 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: guys end up being good players somewhere else whatever. I'm 804 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: just going with the guys I like. And that's why 805 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: if you can't run a corner, I'm just I'll let 806 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: some you know, I push them. 807 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: South refference you certainly play in it because we all 808 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: bring that to the table. Uh. The funny thing is, look, 809 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: I think there's enough awareness to be able to say, hey, man, 810 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: he's his own coin. 811 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: You want to put zone skin whatever. 812 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: My top units will look differently if you're going man 813 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: to man and I'm not tasked with that. 814 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm tasked with just ranking them one to. 815 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 3: Five based on on ability they have, and so it 816 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: always changes, and so you just hope that you're able 817 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 3: to explain it, whereas the listener of the viewer understands like, oh, okay, 818 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: this is what he means, this is why he's rated, 819 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 3: this is the criteria that he used to issue these grades. 820 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: M No doubt. Well, anything else you want to add here, 821 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: Buck before we jump. 822 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: Out of man I'm excited. I don't know if we 823 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: have another one? Is this it just this? 824 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: Well? I think I no bile can pop in here, 825 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: but I think, uh fast, is Lance jumping in here? 826 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: What do we got? I don't know? Uh oh, Thursday, 827 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: we got another one. A little recap, A little recap 828 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: with recapping. What the draft doesn't happen till Thursday night? 829 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Is that after the draft? Is that the Bill doesn't 830 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: want to talk. He just wanted to. 831 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: Like recap draft. I guess the last one. You and 832 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: I okay, cool? 833 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but we will circle back, uh next week 834 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: and go through all this stuff, so buck have a blast, 835 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: man and enjoy. I know you guys do a great job, 836 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward. I'm sure we'll be texting all 837 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: for the next day for sure, silly season, but I 838 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: can't wait for that. 839 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait for that DJ my draft on Wednesday. 840 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: Oh man? 841 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Any want to know? Confidence levels zero? So I'm just like, 842 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put strout at too and just let the 843 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: chip fall where they may and look like a dummy 844 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: when everybody else is right on that whole thing. But anyways, 845 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: all right, that's going to do it for us. Appreciate 846 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: you guys hanging. We'll catch you next time. Right here on, 847 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: move the sticks.