WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Denny Hamlin (05-21-20) 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.160 Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Thursday, Dan and The 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:09.200 Dan h. Stan Patrick Show covered a lot of ground. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.640 Spoke to Chris Collinsworth, NBC Sports Football Night in America 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.120 analyst Denny Hamlin, NASCAR driver. He won last night at Darlington. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.080 He'll join us coming up phone calls. We have an 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.439 old poll question, apparently because mclovin says he has a 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.840 new poll question. Okay, the first two hours was what's 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.720 the best part of the experience of college football? Tailgating 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.159 or being in the game? Sixty forty being in the 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.239 game kind of obvious. So you have a choice. You 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.040 want to switch to NBA season or what they should do, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.560 or do you want something off of Dak Prescott. Oh, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.160 we'll give me the Dank Prescott. You're looking for clicks? Yeah, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.760 I mean it's totally clicks. But can you win a 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.440 Super Bowl if you pay your quarterback forty million dollars 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.880 a year? I will put Dak's name. I'm just asking 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:01.680 that question. Well, because we say forty million now, and 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.600 then it's going to be forty five million, and then 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.560 it's going to be fifty million. I think history sounds 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.520 pretty big. Well, history shows that you're not. You haven't 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.240 had teams win super Bowls with quarterbacks making that kind 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.399 of money. A lot of these teams have used that 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.440 rookie quarterback contract to be able to build a team, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.800 and then by the time that quarterback matures into you know, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.120 a good quarterback, a leader, then you have a chance 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.160 to win a Super Bowl there. I mean, that's what 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.560 the Rams were hoping with Jared Goff. But now that 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.440 you pay him, the Eagles, you pay Carson Wentz, you know, 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.040 the Kent City with Patrick Mahomes when you pay him, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.360 Deshaun Watson when he gets paid. You know, Cleveland's hoping 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.640 they get something out of Baker Mayfield, the Jets still 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.320 hoping they get something out of Sam Darnold, the Bills 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.680 with Josh Allen, you get these young quarterbacks, Miami taking 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:57.280 tah the Chargers, you know, with Justin Herbert. You know, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.680 I still think about that if you said that, I 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.760 could have Justin Herbert, who I'm not sure about, or 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.600 I could have Cam Newton. If I'm the Chargers, am 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.280 I ready to win now? And who gives me a 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.920 better chance of winning now? Assuming Cam Newton is healthy, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.920 I'm gonna have a guy who is gonna be there's 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.480 some star power with him. He is meant to be 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.840 a starter, not a backup. And if I have Tyrod Taylor, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.280 there's the backup. I feel better. If something happens to Cam, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.680 you did not get to a that would have been 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.720 the direction I would have gone in if i'd the Chargers. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.720 And then if let's say you took Isaiah Simmons and 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.280 you put him on that defense that's all ready an 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.639 elite defense. Now all of a sudden, I think you 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.400 got people's attention because you're gonna go after Kansas City 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.880 with that defense, and you have Cam that gives you 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:57.240 a respectable offense. You have some weapons there Cam. A 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.240 healthy CAM makes you a super contender in my opinion, 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.880 with the Chargers. And if I can use that draft 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.800 pick and I get a guy who's going to be 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:11.280 impactful like Isaiah Simmons will be, then I think that 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.440 I've strengthened my offense, strengthened my defense. And in the draft, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.120 at least with your first pick, you didn't strengthen your 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:22.240 offense or your defense. Yes, McLevin, is there some fear 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.760 of injury in the Chargers because they've been guided by 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.239 injuries for the last four or five years. Remember that 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.919 the year you had him going far, they got they 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.600 got hit hard, and they still won twelve games. Yeah, 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.560 I had him going to the super Bowl that year, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.960 but I just think that would have made more sense 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.240 for Cam Newton. He's just going to wait until something 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.680 happens to a quarterback. You know, he's putting out these 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.000 videos and just showing you know, I don't know how 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.240 healthy he is. I don't know how healthy his foot is. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:55.480 Shoulder looks good, but throwing passes in the backyard or 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.080 on a football field, doesn't that you're not simulating, you know, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.240 game action. And I'd like to know Kenny throw deep, 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.840 what kind of velocity does he have on that? How 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.080 does he feel as they're swelling when he's done with this? 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:12.480 Shoulder surgery is tricky having had it done, and it's 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.920 never it doesn't feel like it's ever. Like when they 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.200 say surgery, the successful surgery. How many times we hear 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.440 that with an athlete, Oh yeah, it was successful. I 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.719 don't think you can say that about the shoulder. Look 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:31.039 at Andrew Luck, Cam Newton. It is tricky and who 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.120 knows how long it's going to stay in place. You know, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:39.000 my shoulder is and I'm just a regular person. My 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.520 shoulder is not successful. I mean, is it better than 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.960 it was? I couldn't lift my shoulder much higher than 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:49.240 my head, and you know, so I couldn't throw a baseball, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.719 even shooting hoops or playing golf, and I wanted to 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.560 get that corrected. I'm just an average person and it's 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.880 still tricky, and I still have problems with my shoulder. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.799 And I had a great doctor. It's an inexact science. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.159 That's what I don't know about Cam Newton. He's not 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.160 a great passer, accurate passer. This doesn't help that. It 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.680 hurts that. But I would want to know if I 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.400 get in front of him, you know, can he be 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.200 a different quarterback or is he just going to be 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.720 Cam Newton? This is the way it is. I'm gonna run, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.560 I'm going to take chances. But if I'm the Chargers, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.760 I would have taken Cam Newton in because it felt 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.719 like they wanted to. They didn't get to. You settled 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.280 for Justin Herbert. Then maybe settles not the right word. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.279 I just don't know if Justin Herbert is great, can 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:36.479 be great athletic. Absolutely came up and played well in 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.480 some big games. Absolutely. I just I need some star power. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.680 If I'm the Chargers, Cam Newton would have given me that, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.400 and I get a defensive player who's going to be 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.599 a great player for a long time. Yeah. P A 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.080 question for you and Andrew about the Cowboys when both 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.600 are healthy and they both have good teams around them, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:06:00.760 is Dak Prescott drastically better than Andy Dalton? No? Is 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.719 he better than Andy Adalton? Yes, casually better or like 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.800 a lot Well, neither does well in the playoffs. Okay, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.440 and that's a knock I have on Dak. He's not 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.280 good in the playoffs. But I think he's a good quarterback. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.159 I think he handles everything that goes around that circles 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.680 you as as the quarterback for the Cowboys. But I 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.080 will say he should be doing what Patrick Mahomes is doing. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:31.200 From the standpoint of you got the offensive line, you've 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.960 got a you know, all pro running back, you've got 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.400 weapons wide receiver like this year, there's no excuses for 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.000 this team not to win that division. None. Now, I 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.960 know that they haven't spent as much time on the 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:47.440 defense offensively, Dak Prescott should have a monster year. Yeah, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.560 mclubn Yeah. I was gonna say, where do you rank 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.440 his set of weapons? Is it sort of a top 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.839 five top ten set of people around it? If I 0:06:53.880 --> 0:07:00.240 put offensive line, running back and wide receivers, I don't 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.400 know who comes close close to that. I mean, he's 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.880 got young receivers. They don't have Jason Witten any longer. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.000 But I put Cdee Lamb in there, who I think 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:15.160 is awesome. Amari Cooper, Okay, paid him a lot of money, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.880 But I got Zeke Elliott and that offensive line like 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.320 they should be a dynamic scoring offense, and they were 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.200 last year. They outscored the opposition by over one hundred points, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.280 and you didn't. You didn't win your division. Now you 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.120 got a new head coach. Can Mike McCarthy bring in 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.960 some magic that he had with Aaron Rodgers. That's what 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.080 I'd be curious about. Yeah, point perloff. Cover your ears. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.720 Andy Dalton career in the playoffs, he's owing four one 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.280 touchdown six picks. What is Dak Prescott in the postseason? Please? Yeah, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.720 that's J. J. Watt's fault. He used to remember the 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:57.160 Bengals will play every Saturday weekend. It was so bad 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.480 we didn't even consider that starting the playoffs. It was 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.800 like that game doesn't start the playoffs. Yeah, in three 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.800 playoff games, Dak Prescott's one and two. He's got five 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.280 touchdowns and two picks. You gotta win those games though, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:16.800 if you're yeah, wait, did he did he drow the 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.880 Dez Brian catch? Not? Catcher was at Romo? I think 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.640 that was Romo. Yeah, that was Romo. Okay, and it 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.680 was a catch. Yeah. And I'm not even a cowboy. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.000 I mean I should you know, qualify that that I 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.640 didn't grow up being a Cowboy fan. I have become 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.840 a Cowboy fan because my Cowboys are doing damage this year. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:44.160 My Cowboys. What about your bucks? Oh? I love my bucks. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.800 I fall in love easily, I do. I see a 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.600 lot of teams. I see some teams behind other teams backs, 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.880 I have to admit, but I yeah, I love the Buccaneers, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.880 but I think the Cowboys. I wouldn't want to pay 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.600 Dak Prescott that kind of money unless I felt like 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.400 he is the right guy for this team And they 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.360 should have made up their mind a while ago and 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.240 just said here's the number that we're going to give you. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.760 If not we're going to franchise you, and then what 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.079 we're gonna do is will franchise you the next year, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.280 and then we're going to draft a quarterback because at 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.480 some point there's diminishing returns of paying somebody that amount 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.280 of money, and that's what all these teams are trying 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:32.920 to avoid. And Dallas, because he wasn't a first round pick, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:38.560 you didn't get that extra year at Dak Prescott. But 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.920 if Deshaun Watson steps up to the plate and gets 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.240 forty million, the price of poker just went up again. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.920 And we know that Mahomes is going to be a 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.679 separate entity. But all right, a couple of phone calls 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.720 in here. Let me see Garrett in Kansas City. Garrett 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.400 is back, Hey Dan, sorry about that foot one five, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.719 first time, long time. I wanted to call in a 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.200 story about double birds to follow up on yours. So 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.560 a couple of years ago, my wife, my soon to 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.880 be ex wife, and I were coming over from dinner 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.040 and a truck pulled out of his driveway and about 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.800 TBone dust. So I honked on my horn, drove past him. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.199 He started tailing me, kind of following me home. My 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.280 wife flipped him off and we pulled in the driveway, 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.000 he drives by. Don't think anything of it. Go inside. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.520 Three am that morning, here loud knocking on our front door. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.480 I go down and I opened the front door and 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.040 the fire department standing there, and the firefighter asked me 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.000 if this is my jeep, Grand Cherokee that's sitting in 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.720 the driveway. And I look out and the whole back 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.720 half is completely melted and had been on fire and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.439 was just smoldering and smoke. And one of the worst 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.880 parts of it I seen on the cake where my 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.480 callaway epic irons were in the back trunk at the car, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.040 so those were those were taking care of as well. Well, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:06.680 now it's a tragedy if your callaway clubs were all 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.640 from the ex wife flipping the bird to the to 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.600 this guy circle back around. Did they arrest that guy? Um? 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.440 So I pursued that, but since we didn't have any 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.559 video evidence or no one saw him, we weren't able 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.520 to press charges. They could go question him. But the 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.960 last thing I wanted to do was go question this 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.080 guy that uh burnt down my car for, you know, 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.440 flipping the bird. And we found we found at the 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.520 top of a bottle of a Jack Jack Daniels bottle 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.760 under my gas tank, so he had lit that on fire, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.320 but my gas tank was completely full, so the fire 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.760 department said that it was bubbling and it didn't explode. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.760 If it would have been any less, the vapors would 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.280 have exploded, and that would have been even more. Yeah, well, 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.920 thank you, Garrett. Yeah, poll, it sounds like a country song. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.520 A bottle of Jack, a burn up truck, and I'm 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:59.560 flipping the bird my jeep. Cherokee Kyle in Wisconsin high Kyle, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.280 would you have me? Yeah, good morning Dan. First of all, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.439 thanks right, you can found the class boy. What is 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.440 it eight or ten weeks to keep all of us 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.400 sports had kind of a saying, So I've been hearing 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:14.760 you talk about having a quarterback only salary cap, and 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.960 we know that the salary cap was implemented a number 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.920 of years ago to kind of level the playing field 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.280 for all thirty two NFL teams. But how would you 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.200 how would a quarterback only salary cap operate when you 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.959 have a team like Cincinnati that will most likely probably 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.280 start Joe Burrow week one uh this year, paying him 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.480 on a rookie wage scale compared to uh, you know, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.200 Pampas City. That's probably gonna give Patrick Mahomes forty five 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.040 to fifty million. How would how would because if you 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.760 have a salary cap, you would also have to have 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.240 a floor correct to like a salary floor like you 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.120 have to spend How would that? How would that work? Well? 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.120 I didn't have this thought out crazy, Kyle, I just 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:55.600 throw it out there that why don't we have a 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.520 separate salary cap there? I wonder if you could take 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.360 that that you can allocate a certain amount of money 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.040 for your quarterback and it doesn't hurt you. But I 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.280 don't know if you look at this overall picture and 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.600 say the entire since Joe Burrow is going to be 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.240 on a rookie deal, therefore do you have more money 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.560 to spend on other players until you get to that 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.439 point where Joe Burrow in four years is going to 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:22.520 be asking for sixty million dollars a year. Paulie and 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.840 I just discussed it, and we just thought, well, they 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.360 the fact that the NFL considered this, we thought that 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.680 that was progress on our part that they actually discussed 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.880 a separate salary camp four quarterbacks this year. Yeah. Plus, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.280 don't you say be fascinated if the salary cap for 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.680 the quarterbacks in league was a fixed number. Let's say 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.840 you had forty million dollars to spend on the quarterback position. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.480 You could have as many of them as you want. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.040 You could have seven of them if you want, or 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.800 you could have one. Or you could have a guy 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.040 making thirty nine million and a guy making one, or 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.240 a guy making twenty six and a guy making fourteen. Yeah, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.120 but if Joe Burrow is going to make nine million 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.400 dollars this year, you don't have to spend that money elsewhere, 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.000 but you can get you can upgrade at the position 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.080 as a backup for Joe Burrow as much as you want. Yeah, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:14.800 we gotta work on that. Yeah, we got Dave in Pennsylvania. Hi, Dave, Hey, Dan, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.280 thanks for taking my call. Five ten to thirty. Question 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.720 for you, actually two questions. First of all, going with 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:27.360 the Oscar robertson nobody seeing him play. Just want to 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.200 know how you feel like the greatest baseball player of 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.400 all time. Everybody's going to say one person and nobody 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.480 ever saw him play back in the nineteen twenties. And 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.920 my second question is, I'm from Pennsylvania. We just saw 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.400 a picture of a certain quarterback that was getting a 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:49.280 haircut and a shave on video. When we're not allowed 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.040 to do that, it gets law in Pennsylvania. Well, shaving. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.680 Shaving is legal though, thank you Dave. Shaving is legal, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:05.880 but going to a barbershop is not legal. Shaving is illegal. Yeah. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.800 I don't have to see Babe Ruth to know that 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.280 Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player, because I see 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.440 all of his numbers, and the fact that he won 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.160 almost one hundred games as a pitcher would lead me 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.480 to believe that that's as balanced as well rounded. We 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.800 talked about five tool players. Babe did it all. Now 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.840 you can say, oh, well he did it against you 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.120 know though there was no integration there, and we can 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.720 argue all of that, or you know, maybe it's not 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.640 even an argument it is in fact, but Babe Ruth, 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.360 with those numbers compared, he was hitting more home runs 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.200 than teams and that he could have been a Hall 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.680 of Fame pitcher by all accounts. I didn't have to 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.800 see him. What I'm saying about Oscar Robertson is great player, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.040 great stats. I don't think many people saw him because 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.920 he was in Milwaukee and he was in Cincinnati, that's all. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.240 And we didn't have TV back then to be able 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.320 to watch him. I saw him because I'd go to 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.800 the Cincinnati Royals games, and it's a college basketball town, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.880 not a pro basketball town. People did not show up 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.120 to see the Cincinnati Royals. Nate Archibald is one of 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.600 the greatest players I ever saw, but I got to 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.600 see him in person. Not many people did. They saw 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.720 him when he was either in Kansas City with the 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.960 Kings there or when he was with the Celtics. When 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.760 he was with the Cincinnati Royals, Nate Archibald was spectacular. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.000 Let me see here, Nick and Indiana. Then we'll take 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.680 a break. Hey, Nick, Hey, thanks for taking my call. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:45.320 Six two two eighty five. Chris Mannick last week said 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.560 Russell Westbrook and Rick Berry aren't even in the same league. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.120 That's insane. Rick Berry was a bad man. If you 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.840 watched ten minutes of film, all you gotta see he 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.600 could do it all, shoot past I mean it didn't matter. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.600 I mean, go down the court and fight you. Oh, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.320 I know. I just Mannix never saw him, and therefore 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.040 if you didn't see him, then he can't be good. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.600 And I just wanted to let Chris Mannox know rick 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.159 Berry led a team to the NBA title, was a 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:18.520 great score and great passer, rebound rebounder as well. I mean, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.040 rick Berry was a great player. That's all we get 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.280 caught up in. Oh Russell Westbrook triple double? Is he 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.199 more athletic than Rick Berry? Yes? He is. Is he 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.960 a better player than Rick Berry? Not in my opinion, 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.800 And I love watching Russell Westbrook play. Love one of 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.879 my I'm on record who's saying he's one of the 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.399 players that I would pay to see, But he's not 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.240 a better player than rick Berry. Yes. One of the 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.080 things that gets tough though, as someone who didn't get 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.280 to watch then, right, like there's a whole bunch of 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.200 us that weren't alive so we didn't watch back then, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.240 is like comparing the athletes of today or even like 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.960 an Allen Iverson and saying that they're just as good 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.440 when people didn't even dribble through their legs yet then 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.399 or something, you know what I mean, where you're like, well, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.240 wait a minute, Like the athleticism is just completely different. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.960 It's like two totally different games. So it gets hard 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.840 to say, like, well, yeah, like who could back then 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.639 could guard Alan Iverson, probably nobody, but it was a 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.399 totally different game. So, but I have to look at 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:18.160 what you did in your time, and Iverson was spectacular 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.439 in his era, and because of Iverson, you had people 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:27.520 who added to their games. Because of Alan Iverson. It 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.400 feels like everybody keeps sampling off everybody as they built. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.000 If I said Lebron James is going against Bill Russell, 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.200 Lebron James is bigger than Bill Russell. Who do you have? 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.200 So if I'm going to compare like that, you would 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.760 take Lebron James because he's a better athlete. He's bigger 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.760 than Bill Russell, He's more versatile than Bill Russell. Bill 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.680 Russell's people put him, you know, as the greatest basketball player, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.760 one of the greatest basketball players of all time. If 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:58.080 we matched athleticism, it's not close Lebron with what he 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.520 does at that size, it's not even a comparison with 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.680 Bill Russell. Yeah, McLevin, I kind of assume it. Rick 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.280 Barry's athletic because his son Brent won the dunk contest 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.240 wearing sweatpants. Is that a complete No? No No, he's athletic, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.000 He's not as athletic as Russell. How many people are 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.760 is athletic as Russell Westbrook? Oh? Very few. Yeah. I 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.320 mean it's not fair to say, oh if if they 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.840 played one on one, that was Mannox's argument. They played 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.600 one on one. That's not what this is about. What 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.640 did you do for your team? How great were you? 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.840 I mean, that's what we're talking about. Let me take 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.879 a break here and get some more phone calls. Denny 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.080 Hamlin will join us fresh off a win last night 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.040 and twenty one after the hour. This is the Dan 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.080 Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.040 Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.840 to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.720 Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Dan Patrick 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.639 Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.199 live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.800 s R. Denny Hamlin, driver of the Number eleven FedEx 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.880 to Toyota camera car, big winner last night the rain 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.639 shortened Toyota five hundred race from Darlington. He and his 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.760 crew unveil the Number eleven FedEx Small Business Paint scheme 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.640 ahead of this weekend's race and Charlotte, and it pays 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.080 tribute to small business owners. The real backbone of America, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:21.320 which is represented through the stars on the car. Denny 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.800 joins us on the program, how are you feeling today? 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.480 So I'm good. I kind of knew this interview was coming, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.040 so I had to put up a good performance to 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.800 make sure O jitomized it. Yeah, if you weren't on 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.760 the show, would you have won last night? Is that 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.880 what you're saying. I think we've talked about this, right, 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:39.920 I mean, I think Paul and those guys have talked 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:45.080 about you come on there and you win. I don't 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.040 want the word to get out, Denny. Then we'll be 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:52.200 inundated with the drivers trying to win. Is the job different? 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.120 First of all, you're you're racing on a Wednesday night 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.639 and you're racing, you know, with what's going on with 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.040 no fans there. How different is that? It's different? I 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:05.800 mean it's just it's quiet. I mean, I don't I 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.399 can't express like just the silence of it is the 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.280 biggest thing inside the race car where the race is 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.600 going on. We don't notice a huge difference. But when 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.320 you get out and you win the race, and it's 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.880 like okay, um, come back to your body for your 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.680 your zoom media availability. That's that's when things become a 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.840 little different. Did you pour like a drink on your 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.880 head and like, do you celebrate it all? Uh? I haven't, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.440 but I will in due time. Do you smoke the tires? 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.080 I mean when you come on? No? Well we know, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.480 because you know, we got to reuse this engine in 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.760 another race. So I got you know, I got an 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.960 email the night the night before saying, hey, take this engine, 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.399 no burnouts. Do you ever have to get like you 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.399 gear up for the weekend, but here it is a 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.320 Wednesday night? Is it? Is it different to gear up 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.520 for a Wednesday night race as opposed to a weekend race? Well, 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.240 we usually you know, like like golf, you know, we 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.520 have one event per week usually, Well when now we're 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.000 doing two per week for the next few months, trying 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.760 to catch up. And so the biggest issue we have 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.880