1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy and Sarah and I. 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: As usual, we're talking about books today and I had 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: read The Lost City of z over the summer, which 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: if you haven't picked it up, is amazing. It's all 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: about the search in the Amazon for a what may 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: or may not be a mythical city. I'm not going 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to tell you the answer, something we might actually want 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: a podcast on in the future, but it got us 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: talking about how the search for lost or mythical cities 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: sometimes unearthed a lot of real stuff and we actually 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: do some real exploring. And one of the best examples 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: we thought of for this is the Golden City of 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: El Dorado. The streets were supposed to be page in gold, 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and obviously all the gold hungry explorers went looking for 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: it and consequently mapped a lot of South America. And 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: another one was the fabled Seven Cities of Cibola, which 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to have castles in the air, and in 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: the hunt for this, explorers mapped a lot of the 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: southwestern United States. And it's not true that space is 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: the only unexplored frontier really, because according to Noah, of 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: the underwater realm is still unexplored. So all you adventurers 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: out there and get out your scoopa equipment. So today 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about another lost city, Atlantis. Yeah, 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: that that no effect probably should have glued you in. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: So Atlantis starts back with Plato. He's the first real 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: primary source we have for any of this, and he 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: started on what was supposed to be a trilogy of dialogues. 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: Book one was Timaeus. He did half of his second book, Critius, 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and he never did book three. And all the dialogues 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: talk about the creation of world, the nature of man, 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and they also mentioned Atlantis and Atlantis. The story of 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: it starts with Poseidon, the god of the ocean, who 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: was given the island of Atlantis when the Greek gods 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: divvied up everything, and he fell in love with a 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: mortal woman of Clito, and they had ten kids, five 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: sets of twin boys. And he remakes the island that 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: he's given for her, surrounding it with moats, and it's 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: just the ideal utopian land, right, And it's very circular 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: in design. There's an island in the middle, there's a moat, 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: there's a strip of land in a circle, another moat, 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: another strip of land in a circle, and then more water, 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: and no one could get to the island because of 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: course there weren't ships at the time, so it was 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: cut off from everything else. But over time he gave 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: the best part of this land to his oldest son, Atlas, 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: and it grew to be an incredibly prosperous place. They 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: had bridges and canals and connected it to the outside 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: world again, and Um just built it up, so it 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: was this splendid city with castles and um everything you 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: could imagine horse tracks randomly or a sign of a 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: really great city, so Um be assured Atlantis had them. 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: But like with so many great civilizations, it became greedy 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and corrupt, and the Atlanteans began fighting wars and enslaving 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: the people they conquered, and they even went after the 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: great city state of Athens. And they finally got their 58 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: come upance when an earthquake swallowed them in UH nine thousand, 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: six hundred BC, which in my notes after that I wrote, bam, 60 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: so that's the end. That's what happened. So that's the story. Yeah, 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: that's the story. And to me it sounds like a 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: nice story about a civilization that has become too corrupt 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: and too violent, which, uh, from Plato's perspective, that's a 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: pretty good warning for the city of Athens. Watch out, Athenians. 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Maybe we're also coming too combative or too money driven. Um. 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: But not everyone saw it as this allegory or myth. Right, 67 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: some of his own students that he was telling this 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: truth like Cranter, although Aristotle, Plato's most famous student, said 69 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: he who invented Atlantis, also destroyed it trying to say, 70 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, come on, this is a story. So so 71 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: most people at the time accepted it as a myth, 72 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: as a story that Plato had created, a lesson, if 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: you will. But as time went on, people started to 74 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: get more interested in this myth and trying to interpret 75 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: it is fact and hunt for the loscity of Atlantis 76 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: and the idea that there was a huge continent that 77 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: was past the Pillars of Hercules, which is the modern 78 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: day Straits of Gibraltar, which is where Plato placed Atlantis, 79 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: was pretty unlikely. As we got sophisticated or more sophisticated 80 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: ocean mapping technology in the twentieth century and learning how 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: the plates worked, and yeah, there there probably wasn't going 82 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: to be this enormous continent under the Atlantic Ocean, and 83 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: but that hasn't stopped lots of people from placing Atlantis 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere in the world. We have. Recent candidates 85 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: have been the Caribbean, South America, Antarctica, Ireland, French Polynesia, 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the Canaries, the Azores, Tunisia, West Africa, Sweden, Iceland, and Spain. 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: So basically anywhere. I'm sure there are other ones, do 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: you Basically, yeah, anywhere you can think of Atlantis. But 89 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: my favorite connection with Atlantis is the fascination the Nazis 90 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: had with it, which is completely insane. And it starts 91 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: with a Swedish guy named Olaf Redback who said he 92 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: had found Atlantis in Sweden, of all places, which of 93 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: course has nothing to do with anything that Plato wrote 94 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Pillars of Hercules. Yeah, not so much. He said that 95 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: the biblical Jaffe came to Sweden after the Great Flood 96 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and then gave birth to Atlas, which perhaps you remember's son, No, 97 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: it's someone else's, according to Redback, and he came up 98 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: with lots of rationalizations whenever his didn't make sense. For example, 99 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: swee and is nowhere near the straits of Gibraltar. Well, 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: perhaps that was a mistranslation then, and some of his 101 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: research was picked up by a theosophist named Helena Blavatsky, 102 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: who expounded on some of his stuff and added some 103 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: more of her own. I was excited to see her 104 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: name in Katie's outline because she popped up in an 105 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: article I wrote a few years ago about karma and secularizing. Yeah, 106 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: she's actually considered responsible for secularizing karma in the West. 107 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: So it's not just a religious thing. It's something that 108 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: can be in a pop song, right that we used 109 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: someone incorrectly all the time. But this particular religion became 110 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: popular when the Third Reich decided that Christianity had too 111 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: much of a Jewish influence and maybe people should find 112 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: some other religion to take a part in. And her 113 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: idea was that when Atlanta sank because some of the 114 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: elite priests escaped from the city and they went to Shambala, 115 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: a mythical place in the Himalayas, and the Arians, a 116 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: completely new race, learned from the Atlanteans all of their wisdom, 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: which she said involved things like inventing airplanes and explosives, 118 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: although I'd like to add the Theosophists also said there 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: was an entire sunken continent named MoU. So perhaps they're 120 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the most reliable, and they were waiting for the Aquarian Age, 121 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: a time of enlightenment and brotherhood. So it makes me 122 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: want to see the Age of Aquarius. But I'm not gonna. 123 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna avoid that. So, of course, who 124 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: likes this arian stuff. That would be the Nazis, especially 125 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Heinrich Himmler, who believed in all sorts of weird stuff, 126 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: like glacial cosmogeny, which was the idea that the whole 127 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: universe was a conflict between fire and ice basically since 128 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: the dawn of time. It's kind of James Taylor esque, 129 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: it is. I'm sorry, I don't want to compare him 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: to the Knox. It's not what I was trying to hear. 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: But he was in charge as part of the s S, 132 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: as part of the National Heritage Institute, and so he 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: had access to all sorts of scientists, scholars, and archaeologists 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: who he sent out on missions to find Atlantis. He's 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: we know for sure. He sent people to Tibet to 136 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: look for this place in Shambala where perhaps the Atlanteans 137 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: might have given their wisdom to the Arians. And that's 138 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: a common theme in people who believe there was an 139 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Atlantis that uh, they passed on their wisdom to the 140 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: great ancient civilizations. A lot of people have a hard 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: time or I don't know if it's a lot some 142 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: people have a hard time accepting that, uh, the megaliths 143 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: in Great Britain were built, you know, just people were 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: inspired to build them and think that maybe the people 145 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: of Atlantis taught them how pyramids. That's another a popular example. 146 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Anything like that is saying, well, it's too advanced for 147 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: the people at that time to and it must have 148 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: been part of the super race. Anything that's too impressive. 149 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: The Atlanteans must have helped out. Yeah, they didn't believe 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: that particular Tibetan city that they went to could have 151 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: been formed by the people who lived there, which is insulting. 152 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: But another Himler associate named Edmund Kiss decided that it 153 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: was in the Andes, and another one came up with 154 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: some idea of polar shift in runs coming from the Atlanteans, 155 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: and then Otto Huff decided it was in the Canary Islands. 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: But this wasn't even about history. And that's the thing 157 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: about Atlantis. People read what they want to into it, 158 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and for the Nazis and especially Himmler, it was a 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: way to figure out the racial superiority, giving the pseudo 160 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: scientific reason or pseudo historical reason as to why Atlantis 161 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: was so great and so was the Arian race. Yeah. 162 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: One of the one of the theories that's a little 163 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: more accepted than than those the Aliens and teaching ancient 164 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: civilizations is that Atlantis was increte. Uh. The accomplished Minoan 165 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: civilization there collapsed in the middle of the second millennium 166 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: bc UM, probably from a volcanic eruption that was on 167 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: the era which is the modern santorini Um, So that 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: that theory has holds a little more weight for some 169 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: people than the more off the wall ideas as the aliens, 170 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: which I seriously think that's my favorite one, and the 171 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: idea goes that they accidentally blew themselves up with a 172 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: nuclear bomb. It's another and more or lesson about the 173 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: dangers of technology, but a little bit different, or the 174 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: one that they were behind the cro magnan and cave paintings. Well, 175 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of these potential Atlantis locale sound not very 176 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: hospitable Antarctica especially. I'd say, um, there's one in particular 177 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: that might be the Atlantis you would most want to 178 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: visit should it be true, or even if there's not, 179 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: an Atlanthara and I are happy to go and explore 180 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: this to our fullest abilities. And that's a Bimini in 181 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the Bahamas. Edgar Casey, who was a clairvoyant psychic, he 182 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: would go into trances and read fortunes and predict things. 183 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: He had a vision that Atlantis was located from the 184 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: Gulf of Mexico to Gibraltar, so at least we have 185 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: the pillars of Hercules in there, unlike the Sweden theory. 186 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: But it was destroyed in a final catastrophic event circa 187 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: ten thousand BC, which again puts it about where Plato 188 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: said or earlier, right, yeah, a lot earlier. Yeah, But 189 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: he founded an Association for Research and Enlightenment, and that 190 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: group today has focused their efforts on the Biminy Island 191 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: chain Uh. They go on dives and search for traces 192 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: of Atlantis, and they actually believed that bminy Uh were 193 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: mountaintops in Atlantis they were really high ground, and that 194 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the world's oceans were a lot lower. And he claimed 195 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: that there was a record hall on Bimony, Uh that 196 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: was identical to one under the Sphinx, which just sounds 197 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: like a really tangential connection. Um, and this housed all 198 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of the ancient records of Atlantis. But it's interesting how 199 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: that so many of them seemed to try to tie together, 200 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: all these cultures that have nothing in common, Like they 201 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: couldn't have sprouted up independently of one another. They must 202 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: have come from that one original source. One civilization basically 203 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: gave everyone the blueprints for advanced civilization. And of course 204 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: it must have been Atlantis. But you said something cool 205 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: that was a little bit more recent. Yeah, just earlier 206 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: this year, Google Earth launched a new underwater search tool, 207 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and so, like people do on Google Earth, they start 208 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: looking around, and um, folks started noticing a grid like 209 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: pattern off the western coast of Africa, which of course 210 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: is another suspected Atlantis site. I mean, what isn't and uh? 211 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: The product manager of Ocean in Google Earth debunked the 212 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: rumors and said that the lines were quote artificial data 213 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: remnants left by sonar equipped boats collecting data from the 214 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: ocean floor. That's kind of a lot of technical jargon 215 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: for me. But um, as far as he knew, the 216 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: research from those boats, or the research that those boats 217 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: were conducting, was not Atlantis related at all. It does 218 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: look cool though. I saw a picture of it. It 219 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: looks kind of like an underwater street grid. Well, and 220 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: if you're looking for that kind of thing, that would 221 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: be a good place to start. But you also had 222 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: a really good quote that you told me earlier. Yeah, 223 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: and this is why people aren't going to give up 224 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: searching for Atlantis. Richard Ellis, who is the author of 225 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Imagining Atlantis, wrote that Atlantis lives on in people's minds 226 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: largely because you cannot prove it doesn't exist. You can't 227 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: search every inch of the ocean bottom, and so the 228 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: hope remains alive and the promise of finding treasures in 229 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: sunken palaces. It's like that pot of gold at the 230 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: end of the rainbow. You're going to continue looking, except 231 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: under all of the world's oceans, which is a little 232 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: harder to find perhaps. But let us know what you 233 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: think about Atlantis and what your ideas are. 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