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Speaker 4: Season two and how we're thinking what we do.

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Speaker 5: Like, it's just like, how did y'all come up with that?

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Speaker 5: Is this thing on little scripted? We kind of just

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Speaker 1: You know, we were just young and wanted to prove

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a gray Field Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield, Gravefield.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my boys, and girls class.

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Speaker 5: He love hard, Yeah, he love hard. He love his friends.

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Speaker 5: He loved real hard. And he's just like that. He

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Speaker 5: Everybody knew who he was.

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Speaker 1: On the female side and you could choose any college

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Speaker 2: At first? Tennessee is on my list because you think

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Speaker 2: coach Pat Summit was the best. But you know, my

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Speaker 2: sold on Tennessee. But it was hard. You know, people

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Speaker 2: didn't know how to take that. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 3: And hold up. I didn't know that you was Despike.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, I was doing auditions for that loving

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Speaker 4: Now, you ain't really doing nothing.

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Speaker 5: To get drafted.

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Speaker 2: It was like a dream come true. Growing up in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shift the cousin the USA team. You played for

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Speaker 1: Now I'm talking about y'all went to buy sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 1: But y'all was loaded though, just to get the opportunity

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Speaker 2: But you try to come in I didn't know. You

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00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 2: probably experienced that. You come into the league, you don't

434
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 2: know what to do, so you try to like follow

435
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: with these other players. All right, everybody's using this stylist, right,

436
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: so let me go with them.

437
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: Too, yea change jewelry.

438
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: The whole night, you just following, you know, and then

439
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: it hits you one day. And I think it was

440
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 2: that USA trip when I was like, man, I gotta

441
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 2: figure this out. I gotta be my own person, you know,

442
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 2: because each one of them a difference. You can't be

443
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: a follower anymore. I was at that point trying to establish,

444
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: like who Shamiko is gonna be.

445
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: It's interesting listen, you say, how swooped with your og

446
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 3: and she was having you get a Coca Cola for

447
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 3: every game, like but but that shows that, you know,

448
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: the difference of times, like when we came in, we

449
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 3: had to do that stop at Bury King and bring

450
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 3: Burger King, soundes or whatever, get a newspaper for guys

451
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know, as far as the women's

452
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: the w NBA. Do you see that still in the

453
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 3: game now and the humbleness for you you come in.

454
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 5: You you you you.

455
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 3: The goat at that point you got everything you got

456
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: going on, but you're still humble enough to go and

457
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: get the cold cold every game. And when you don't,

458
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: Cheryl gonna bitch at you and you're gonna still be cool.

459
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: And it's it's whatever. But like I know, I see

460
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: it and the men in the NBA, it's not the same.

461
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: It's not the same.

462
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: Like you like, come on man, like word.

463
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: No, it's a little ego. It's just the kids are different,

464
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: you know. I try not when I'm speaking to them,

465
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: like they're like coaches that hit me up, talk to them.

466
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: I try not to give them now. I don't give

467
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: them that back when I played, you know, right, Yeah,

468
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, it's disrespect. You know, these kids

469
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: don't know pioneers of the game. Man, I know everything.

470
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 5: You know.

471
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: You got Jason Kidd with the crossing and Kevin Jackson

472
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 2: you text two sept Tim Hardaway. I used to practice

473
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: these moves, you know, and these kids don't even know

474
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: that stuff.

475
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: They playing Fortnite this one kid.

476
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: To me, I was like, y'all play basketball practice, you know,

477
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: by yourself a lot. And he was like, no, I

478
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: want my team. You know you got practice by yourself.

479
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: He said, I practice. I played two K and he goes,

480
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: that's how I work on my game. No movement, the visualization.

481
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say, no, the new thing

482
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: for these young kids. I got a trainer. Everybody got everybody.

483
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: You gotta get you because they're not outside. And when

484
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: not outside, that's the difference though.

485
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: And I ain't hate not no training because I got

486
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot of homeboys and train and do their thing

487
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: and shout out to y'all. But it's just y'all don't

488
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 3: know how we grew up.

489
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 4: Bro. We was on the playgrounds trying to copy what.

490
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 5: We had out playing all day.

491
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: All night, carrying your ball, you know, going from hood.

492
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: You stopped hitting that ball on my wall in there

493
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: like I'm sitting up and watch it shoot.

494
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: Like we had in the hallway, Me and my brother,

495
00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: we had like a little nerve.

496
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to have to nail the sticker because

497
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: the sticker didn't even work.

498
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 2: That was fun. It's good, Dad.

499
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about Tamika Kitchen. She was

500
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: this shy girl in Tennessee. Coming in and seeing her

501
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: playing with you in Tennessee and having a career that

502
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: she had, winning the championship, being the Olympic winner, being

503
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, all that success. Seeing how confident

504
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: she is in herself and everything like like you can

505
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: see it on her because I remember Tamika ketching being

506
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: the shyy girls.

507
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 5: You really want to talk or do nothing.

508
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: To see her all these years later and how good

509
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: her career went, and to see how confident she's seeing

510
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: herself now, it's like amazing speaking on how that is.

511
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: It's bad as sports. The power of being supported, developing

512
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: into who you are as a woman, kind of what

513
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: I talked about early, figuring out who you are Tomko.

514
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: When she first cans Quiet, I would think I was

515
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: a host in college, you know, sharing stories about her

516
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: background and things like that. And from day one she

517
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: was this very organized person, you know, worked hard, was

518
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: still figuring out the game. But just when you put

519
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: in that type of effort, something positive is going to happen.

520
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: And the nicest person, that's the thing. You know, when

521
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: I look at her, I always hit her up man

522
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you, you know, like, man, the

523
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: things that you've been able to accomplish, you know, and

524
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: also the fact that you know having a disability. I

525
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: know she spoke about being teased and things like that

526
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: when she was younger, but you work through that, you know,

527
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: and one of the kindest people that I know. I've

528
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: learned a lot just from like even watching her to

529
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: you know, put certain things in my life in the

530
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: way that I touch people.

531
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Her basketball game, like miss triple Double. I know, like

532
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: she took the Fever and won the championship and led

533
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: them to that being everywhere on the I'm talking about defense.

534
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Offense is when they need a three a three point shooter, but.

535
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: You need a three hit.

536
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: Everything.

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and winning that championship and just seeing where she

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: came from to now, it's just like, man, that's love

539
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: because we grew up watching her.

540
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: She knows American Gladiator.

541
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 4: I was.

542
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 5: Going through the oscles and stuff.

543
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like catch. I had ran into her.

544
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: I guess like a day after I was in Indiana

545
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: doing a program with the Fever and I'm looking at her.

546
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: I'm like, after I retired, my knees were swollen like

547
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: she's still fit, still in shape. Yeah, out there.

548
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: So I want to know you was one of the

549
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: first women to have your own signature shoes, The.

550
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: BB for Me shot, Yeah, the BB for Me shot.

551
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: How was that was?

552
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's legendary though, with Nike and all with

553
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: the top you know what I'm saying, the Top dolls

554
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 3: rocking with you.

555
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: It was just unbelievable.

556
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: Man.

557
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: You know, I look back because you know when you're

558
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: in it and we can all price, so you're in it.

559
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: You just don't like realize some time impact it's having

560
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: been so fast and you get old and you look

561
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: back and you're like, man, like I got my own shoe.

562
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 4: That's that's a ball.

563
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: Like my name is, Like, I never forget. We used

564
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: to go hoop at the Running Shoot in DC. You know,

565
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: you talk trash. I grew up playing with guys, so

566
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: they talked talk and this dude have my shoes on, right,

567
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: He just talking hot mess, hot hot mess to me.

568
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, motherfucker, you're wearing my shoes.

569
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: And then another dude was like, yeah, and you know

570
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: that girls size and Susan I never forget that. And

571
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: I actually know what was in there. I think Joe

572
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: Forte remember North Carolina, and everybody just started laughing, man,

573
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: because like they weren't girls size, and so he had

574
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: to go, yeah, the girls. You know, I laughed about it,

575
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's respect though, you know he

576
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: went to the ladies wall to get that ship.

577
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's respect.

578
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: Slam Magazine, you were one of the reasons that I'm

579
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: so glad that I was part of a cover that

580
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: was dope with the Slam magazine. Like your Slam Magazine

581
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: cover is one of the dopest Slam magazine covers I

582
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: ever seen in Slam history. You with the New York

583
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Nick Jersey and like you was like wonder woman with.

584
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: The mic.

585
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: You had the Slam cover.

586
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: It was like you had used goat status with that.

587
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: Like what did it feel to get that cover? And

588
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I know the appreciation that everybody showed for that cover,

589
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: Like take me back in that moment of how you.

590
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: Felt, and that was that was like really love. You know.

591
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: When I was at Tennessee, you know, I didn't realize

592
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: what it really meant that I won at that time

593
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: three consecutive championships. It was like the first and I

594
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: guess the Slam cover was like appreciation, you know how

595
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: it is. When we were young. I used to go

596
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: get every Slam every.

597
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: Time, every one of them.

598
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: So when they said I think it might have came

599
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: and said, you know, they want to put you in

600
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: some magazine and they say it's pretty popular. You're gonna

601
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: be the first woman said what I call my friends

602
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: back and I was like, man, I'm doing Slam magazine.

603
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm coming to New York and I just will never forget,

604
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, going there, being in the studio. I think

605
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: before the photographer, I can't remember his name, but he's

606
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: really parpu legitleman anyway, shot like Lenny Kravitz. The day

607
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: before he was telling me how Lisa Bonet was there.

608
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this is like suit super dope.

609
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: You know I was overseas for you.

610
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: Oh man. Actually, you know I loved playing abroad. I

611
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: loved it the first time I went. I think I

612
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: went to go playing Korea. That was different A lot

613
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: of times. It's the first time people are seeing people

614
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: of color.

615
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: You know, they want to touch your hair so that

616
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: you feel kind of like was the depiction on loving

617
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: basketball like, you know, like the coaches talking and then

618
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: you sit there like what they said, get you the boss.

619
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: Pretty much pretty much, that's what it is. That's what

620
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: it is. After Korea. Korea, I didn't know any Korean,

621
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, and I learned how to count and say

622
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: backroom and stuff like that, but I didn't know anything.

623
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: He was saying all types of crazy stuff. And then

624
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: the translator, I knew what she was stressed when they

625
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: told her not to tell me because I'm like, send

626
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: me soon, what do you say? She was stressed about it. Yeah.

627
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: So when I went to Spain, no, that was like

628
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: the best. I played three seasons or a teen ros

629
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: casatas and you know from New York, so Spanglish I

630
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: can understand a little bit. But they were like super competitive.

631
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: The culture, I mean, the party scene and everything. It's lit.

632
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: The Spaniards they eat like nine to twelve, right, go

633
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: to the bar from twelve to two. Then the party

634
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: it's from two to like five in the morning. I said, man,

635
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: I can't keep up with it.

636
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: You seeing the game evolve from when you play when

637
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: you was younger all the way to now watching the

638
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: WNBA now girls is duncan and some of the shots

639
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: that girls are taking from range, and it's evolving like

640
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: the men's game and evolving like what you think about

641
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: the women's game now.

642
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. It's the athleticism. I just hope

643
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: they really focused a little. The thing that made us

644
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: special is always the skills, but now we're getting that

645
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: the physicality, so like now we're just you know, trying

646
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: to do the dunks and the fancy show boating type stuff.

647
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: But I knew the game change. I always tell people this.

648
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: It was twenty eleven, my last season in the league,

649
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: and I was having a good seasons playing out in

650
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: San Antonio with Becky Hammond, and we played La you know,

651
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: me and Kennas talking before the game, I'm like, all right,

652
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: she gonna do her thing, I'm gonna do mine. She

653
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: caught the ball in the post and I was guarding her.

654
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: It was like a switch off guarding her. She did

655
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: something so quick I ain't know where the hell I was.

656
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, man, the athleticism is real.

657
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: Like these players. She's playing the three. I'm a three.

658
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm six or two.

659
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: She's like six'. Four, yeah she's.

660
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Ag y'all putting the ball on the. Floor and THEN

661
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: i look at Like Elena. Deladon you, KNOW i, know

662
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: people get mad WHEN i say, This AND i Told elena's,

663
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: Dad i'm, like two best players in the league in

664
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: my opinion is her And Candas. Parker you. Know, yeah

665
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: but Lately i've been mad, because you, know people trying

666
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: to hate on my girl a little bit In. Canadas

667
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: BUT i think those two are the, best best two

668
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: in the.

669
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: League THAT i wanted her to go To yukon so,

670
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: bad BUT i understood her, reason BUT i just wanted

671
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: to see A yukon so.

672
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: Bad you.

673
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: Know it was her number one right. ALWAYS i teased

674
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: her WHEN i saw the Summer tennessee she was gonna

675
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: come to.

676
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: Tennis she was gonna go to. Tennis.

677
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, YEAH i think that was her.

678
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: Number.

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Onember that has been, crazy, man that would.

680
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: Have Been she's something.

681
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: Else it is quiet, quiet you, know that's you Know.

682
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 5: Chicago, yeah that's what.

683
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: He's, Like i'm Gonna i'm gonna take. That when you

684
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: went The, whitney Young Dominique, canty.

685
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah oh, yeah yeah.

686
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah so that's how like WHEN i first got into women's,

687
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: Basketball i'm telling you you was doing. Thing and then

688
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: WHEN i got To Witney young my sophomore, Year Dominique

689
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: canty had just left and McDonald's and all of.

690
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: That then right after.

691
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: Her Tasha pe, like she was like, you she used

692
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: to play with, us and that's What cafi grew up

693
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: watching her.

694
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Games that's why she.

695
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: Went she grew.

696
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Up they both on The West, side And Tasha pee

697
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: was for. Real she had the whole. City they knew

698
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: shout out.

699
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: Coaching now she coaches AT usc In.

700
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Chicago's do what do you think about women's? Sports they're

701
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: getting equal, play not really equal, pay but more, money

702
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: like something to make sure they're they're really living a

703
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: good life and they can really take care of the

704
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: things that they need to take care.

705
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: OF i think it's up to the leagues to find

706
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: out a way how to generate more. Revenue you, know

707
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: it's easy to, say, OH i think we should get paid,

708
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: More but IF i go to a game or an event, like,

709
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: okay how many people are in the, Stands if how

710
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: many people are buying merchandise and jerseys and things like,

711
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: That so how can we sell it and make it more.

712
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: MARKETABLE i think that's the. KEY i know people will

713
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: go out there and you, know they work, hard they

714
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: work hard and give they. All why should? They they always,

715
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: say why DO i have to go over? Seas? Yeah

716
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: WHY i got to go across this? Border you know

717
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: What i'm. Saying so hopefully NOW i know the league

718
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: is trying to figure out more ways to generate generate.

719
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: REVENUE i always felt like WHEN i played in THE,

720
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: NBA i used to go to the sports.

721
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: GAMES i used TO i played In.

722
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: CLEVELAND i used to practice with the team and always

723
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: go to their. GAMES i feel like THE nba players

724
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: need to support the W nba, player not JUST i

725
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: know it was a lot at The All Star, game

726
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: but like in general over the, SUMMER i feel like

727
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: we need to support that game. Too could we playing

728
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the same? Thing we fell in love with the same,

729
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Ball AND i feel like IF nba players support it

730
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, more that definitely will give a little

731
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: bit more help to, Like, OH i can See Lebron

732
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: james or this player or that player at a basketball

733
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: game or at the W nba, games and all through

734
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs playoff, Speak, YEAH.

735
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: I started seeing more. Guys WHEN i. PLAYED i would

736
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: tell the guys to come. Out you know what Happens

737
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: they start having daughters and the campaign with THE nba. Guys, yeah, like,

738
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: man my LITTLE. Cj what's his. Name C J, Wasathington tennessee.

739
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Guy he always at The aces. Games i'm, like all,

740
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Right i'll see. You i'll see.

741
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 5: You See. Jack have you got a chance to check

742
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: Out kobe's? Daughter oh, NO i.

743
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: HAVEN'T i hear she. Nice but you, KNOW i was, like,

744
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: man she you can't come. ON i was, like come,

745
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: on candas you know some of the other.

746
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: Direction it was pretty clean cut what was going On.

747
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: TENNESSEE i like.

748
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: That it's good to be back though two really great,

749
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: programs you, Know fortune Coach summing is not, there so

750
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: we have a new face to. It but they need

751
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: to play each. Other there two of the greats and women's,

752
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: Basketball So, giants we better win.

753
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Now, yeah started the, history so it's.

754
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: DEFINITELY i, mean we had, battles BUT i won three

755
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: out of four. Championship it really was.

756
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: Like when you doing your, time we ran you're talking

757
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: about the, overalls but like doing my.

758
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: Era but it was pretty clean cut what was going.

759
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: ON i got a fun question for, you if you

760
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: had to pick you and four other girls from The

761
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: tennessee history of basketball history to play Against Pat summit

762
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: and the rest of the. Girls who would the other

763
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: four girls be?

764
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay along with, Myself Tamika, Samika Kandas. Parker i'm a.

765
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: Rock WHO i need a? GUARD i gotta think another.

766
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: Guard i'm a rock with my point. Guard she New

767
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: tennessee head Coach kelly Jo you know when you need

768
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: that general you know out. There but, man we Got

769
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: kandas and we got some.

770
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Players, yeah do like it's some. Players y'all cated a

771
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: monster over there coming behind.

772
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: Y'all that's. Dope start cut.

773
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Or? Bench Yyl, Swoops Cynthia, Cooper Diana? Tarassi who do you?

774
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: Start who do you? Cut who do you?

775
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Bench so we Got, Tarassi Cheryl, swoops and who's the other.

776
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 5: One Cynthia?

777
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: Cooper i'm Starting, Tarassi i'm a Bench swoops.

778
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 5: And, uh you don't Cut.

779
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: Cynthia, No, No i'm a Bench, cynthia And i'm gonna.

780
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: Cut.

781
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: Man they might come after me after. That i've never

782
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: seen a, player, honestly Like diana got ice in her.

783
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Veins man At ITALIAN i. WENT i played for An

784
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: italian coach In New, york and you know a lot

785
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Of italian. Friends hot. Bloody you know What i'm. Saying

786
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: they like, us they want to they come with. It

787
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: she don't back down and he speaks her. Mind AND

788
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: i can respect, that you.

789
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: Know What i'm.

790
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Saying So i'm rock with.

791
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: Her So i'm interested in.

792
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: This since you was in are considered one of the

793
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: goats in the Wn females. Basketball you, know, period who

794
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: is your goat in THE? Nba who is your?

795
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: Goat my?

796
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Goat, dang if you could only choose, One, Karem Mike,

797
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: Magic Kobe.

798
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Man everybody knows. This this is no. Surprise Kobe. Bryant you,

799
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: KNOW i Love Kobe bryant WHEN i played here IN.

800
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: La just getting to see his work. Ethic you, know

801
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: the season's, over we're, started so we practice at. Ten

802
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: kobe will take like maybe like a week or two

803
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: off back in the gym and he will work out

804
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: from eight to. Ten So i'm like sitting there IF

805
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: i got there early for treatment or, whatever going to the,

806
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: gym Watch kobe work. Out you, know real slow, methodic

807
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: working on his posted up. Moves you'll see him doing

808
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: sprints and stuff with his trainer when all other guys were.

809
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: There it was the same. Thing WHEN i was IN,

810
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: DC i couldn't, believe like When Gilbert arenas came that

811
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: he works so. Hard i've never seen any other. Guy

812
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: then Shoot, in Shoot, in we had a little fobs

813
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: AND i would go take my friends because they knew

814
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: the uh you, know you, know the security come, in

815
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: so they would let my guy friends in. There And i'm, like,

816
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: man Now i'm in the gym With gilbert a, lot you,

817
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: know because he really is here, working so you, know

818
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: it was. Cool and then to See, kobe you, know

819
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: you look at, Him i'm the, greatest but not always the.

820
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Greatest work so hard he. Was he was getting it

821
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: in and his dad was cool. Too he can like,

822
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: coach so you, know just the one day he was,

823
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: like you, Know kobe lives here In Newport beach with.

824
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: Her he got helicopter and, stuff and he was just,

825
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: like you, know this, man he's like he could be

826
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: on any beach right, now he could be anywhere in the,

827
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: world but he's in the, Gym like you know What i'm,

828
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Saying he's in, there you, know come, one where were you, guys,

829
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: like and he's. Working SO i just really was a big.

830
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Fan but before him it was it Was.

831
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Mike of, course when you came, up like what female

832
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: did you see? That he was, Like i'm padding my

833
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: game after her.

834
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: Female i'm probably gonna say The Cheryl. MILLER i used

835
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: to watch her a, lot especially when Coach summon gave

836
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: me the. Tapes after, that it Was Teresa. EDWARDS i

837
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: liked her her ball, handling she had some nice, moves

838
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: and then leadership, WISE i took a little bit of

839
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: everything for. Everybody Don Staley Don. STALEY i, mean she

840
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: just knew the, game you, know AND i never. Forget

841
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: like one day she just grabbed me on my. Shirt

842
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: she's like just follow, me like follow, Me you're in good.

843
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: Shape i'm gonna get you to where you gotta. Be

844
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: AND i respected that because me coming in, man a

845
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: lot of people hate, him you, KNOW i wanted that,

846
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: support you, know like helped me show me the.

847
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Way but it was, like you, know it's the, best

848
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: and everybody saying you the best.

849
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 5: They got to go out or.

850
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: Anything SO i was just kind of like out there about.

851
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Myself but when she said, THAT i was, like all, right,

852
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: cool because it's. GREAT i was used to that coming

853
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: from that type of environment in college. Pros it was

854
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: kind of like tough AND i had to like figure

855
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: out a lot of things on my, own make some.

856
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: Mistakes learn the first.

857
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: Time you Met Michael, jordan how did that make you

858
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: feel like when we first Met, Listen.

859
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: WELL i was. STUCK i WAS i was. Shook so

860
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: we were, PLAYING i would, say were playing To Paul

861
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: chicago's as a Whole tennessee, team AND i noticed The

862
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: Nike nike lady on the bus Ray pond and she's,

863
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: like all, right we're gonna make a, stop coach something

864
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: That we're gonna make a stop. Somewhere we're gonna visit some,

865
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: offices and SO i swore saw a. Harpo So i'm,

866
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: like we're gonna go Meet oprah Right then all of a,

867
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: sudden we get to this floor and they're, like shmik

868
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: will come to the, front come to the come, here

869
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: come up, here and we open. It so one opens the.

870
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Doors Michael jordan's and sitting at his desk and we

871
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: go in AND i was just, like oh my, god

872
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: like all the posters as a, kid you, Know and

873
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: he looks at me that come, here come. On he

874
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: looks at. Me he, said damn what's un show? You

875
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: AND i, said uh uh thirteen and he, said we

876
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: wear the same. Sign that's a big, figure so you

877
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: know it W it was, cool definitely someone have a

878
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: lot of respect for or, whatever until he became the

879
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: president of my team and wanted to yell at me

880
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: all the. Time but he taught me a valuable. Lesson one,

881
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: time was having some difficulties with my coach and he called.

882
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: Me it's like ten o'clock in the. Morning, Oh michael

883
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: wants you to come to this. Office i'm, like all,

884
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: right let me. Go you, know he's poffing on a

885
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: cigar And i'm, like put that, out, man it's early

886
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: in the. Morning he's, like shut up and sit. Down

887
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: just let me tell you. Something WHEN i first came

888
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: into the. League well first he, said you, KNOW i support.

889
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: You you know What i'm, saying it's A nike athlete.

890
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: Whatever you, Know i've been a supporter of. Yours he,

891
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: goes don't you ever ever ever have a public battle

892
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: with your. Coach you, know you shut up and you

893
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: just play your. Game the fans are gonna get rid

894
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: of the. Coach and he started to tell me about

895
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: his experience when he was younger will Coach. COLLINS i

896
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: think it Was Doug, collins and he was like how

897
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: he had some, adjustments they didn't really get along and,

898
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: stuff and you KNOW i took, that you, know humble,

899
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Pie Michael jordan's talking to. You and ever since, THEN

900
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: i never said anything about another. Coach you, know just

901
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: let them. Do only thing you can do is be

902
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: responsible for your play and your.

903
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Effort, yeah top five women's basketball player.

904
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 5: Ever if you had to pick, five.

905
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: All, Right, Okay i'm gonna. Go we get L A

906
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: SO i gotta Go Lisa. LESLIE i gotta go with show,

907
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: swoops you, know just. Theture i'm gonna Add Charyl Miller,

908
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: tarassi And i'm gonna go With Don. Stanley you need

909
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: a good point, guard you need a. General so that's

910
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: my that's my. Five you, Know candi still. PLAYING i

911
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: think you know at the end of middle step in

912
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: there she'll replace. Body but, yeah that's my.

913
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: FIVE i.

914
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: Respect coming From New, york everybody got a nickname when

915
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: you was younger that they used to call you like flat,

916
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: out oh.

917
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: MAN i had a bunch of, everybody you, know, Chef

918
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: and what's the first? Pick first? Pick because everybody hit the.

919
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: Court you, know WHEN i first started playing on the

920
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: guys wanted to pick, me you know What i'm. Saying

921
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: and then it was, like, oh everybody's eyes is, open

922
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: like who got the first first? Pick pick? Her and

923
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: so this dude is in the, part he's like a.

924
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Ship that's, right you first. Picked that's.

925
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: Hard that's hard right.

926
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: There you speak on mental, health thinking back in the

927
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: day and me being an adult now and looking back on,

928
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: IT i see mental health issues and, like not only like,

929
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: myself BUT i feel like everybody can talk to, somebody

930
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: you know What i'm. SAYING i feel like it's, uh

931
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: definitely a thing that we need to talk. ABOUT i

932
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: see THE nba has got them on every team, now

933
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: which is.

934
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: A blessing because, yeah you.

935
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Just need somebody to talk, to never knowing what anybody going.

936
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Through can you speak up on the mental health that

937
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: you talk about and the speaking that you, do.

938
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: And so it's about, wellness you, know being in a good,

939
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: place you, know, mom body and. Spirit us as, athletes

940
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: we look at, athletes we are put in the, grinder you,

941
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: know we want to jump. Higher you can price, that all,

942
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: RIGHT i gotta work on. This you, know LIKE i

943
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: work with my boy and you went to, gym working

944
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: and everything, physically you, know but you're dealing with so

945
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: much pressure and, stress you, know newfound, success dealing you,

946
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: know with family and. Friends everybody needed, something everybody wanted, something.

947
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: Relationships it's a lot to. Bear you, know you have,

948
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Children so why not, Decompressed why not want to be

949
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: the best you and open up and really take care

950
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: of the mentor it's a part of your. Body but

951
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: for some, reason you, know it's a Detached AND i

952
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: remember WHEN i first started talking about the challenges THAT i,

953
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: had everybody THOUGHT i was like, crazy and it's, like

954
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: oh my, gosh she's. Crazy she is a. Problem. MAN

955
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: i was really really in a bad, place you, know

956
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: and you, know having like suicidal, ideations and it really

957
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: to an extent impacted my, career you, know and the

958
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: PERSON i was becoming SOMEBODY i didn't. KNOW i felt

959
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: LIKE i couldn't talk to, nobody talk to my, cousin,

960
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: Girl are you? Sad you made? It you? Know da

961
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: da da you, know and you try to put on

962
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: that coat to be, brave you. Know and y'all y'all black.

963
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: Men SO i can only imagine you know how y'all

964
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: carry that extra. Weight, ALSO i had to realize, that you,

965
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: know looking at my brother and close. Friends So i'm, like,

966
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: yo we got to get to a place where we

967
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: just take care of. Ourselves we talk about the issues

968
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: and things that we're dealing. With you may not can

969
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: talk to your best, friend but you know, what you

970
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: could sit there and talk to, somebody a. Therapist somebody

971
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: is not going to judge, you you. Know So i'm

972
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: just glad now in sports leagues that they have these.

973
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: THINGS i think, football because of the concussions the pressure

974
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: that was on, them were like the first league to

975
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: talk about these. Things but for, me it was changing the.

976
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: NARRATIVE I i got tired of successful. Athletes you, know

977
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: we have great. Careers we've had some problems while we've

978
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: been on, teams but no one has ever pushed us

979
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: to get the help because they needed us as the.

980
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Product you, know we need to get that. Talent but

981
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: then you, retire you got issues off the, core and you,

982
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: know left with that all had you, stuck but you

983
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: had the resources they, had you could have been, helped you.

984
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: Know SO i just really just really try to get out,

985
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: there and it's really helped these young. Kids you.

986
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: KNOW i feel like with, athletes like you, know we

987
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of pressure and so. Forth, far but

988
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: like people just living regular. Life the smallest thing can

989
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: a person can get traumatized from. That it can depress,

990
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: them or it can stress them, out you know What i'm.

991
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Saying it can be from a bill that you need

992
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: to pay this you don't got the. Money it can

993
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: be stressing you. Out it can be from the smallest,

994
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: thing and they can traumatize the. Person they can go

995
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: on for years and years and, years and that person

996
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: can hold it. In but when they can talk to

997
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: somebody and kind of like release it and move on from,

998
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: It everybody don't get. That people quick to say, that, like, oh,

999
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: man you're going to talk to somebody like a doctor

1000
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: or something like.

1001
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 5: That and they'd be, like, Oh i'm not.

1002
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: Crazy you gotta be, Crazy but you just want to

1003
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: talk to somebody to kind of get some, understanding whether

1004
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: it's in a relationship or or.

1005
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 5: ANYTHING i mean that's WHAT i.

1006
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Was might be fighting and in a relationship and it's, like,

1007
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: MAN i need to understand where she's coming from AND i.

1008
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Can't and she said it's LIKE i gotta TAKE i

1009
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: take it another. Way but if you said it's, LIKE

1010
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: i believe. It that's HOW i.

1011
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: Was.

1012
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 3: LIKE i was a stubborn, one like talking about go

1013
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: get anger management or, whatever BECAUSE i you, know my,

1014
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: BROTHER i lost my brother AND i was The knicks

1015
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: AND i was wild AND i was wild and, hourly

1016
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: like raising out and everybody teammates and. Everybody i'm cool with. Everybody.

1017
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: MAN i remember getting to it one Time Mo taylor we.

1018
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 5: Hooping he.

1019
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: Scored he, Said i'm just. HOOPING i went, crazy try

1020
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: to thought about he was like, fuck like Like Mo taylor,

1021
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: six like me, up and he was like he was

1022
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: looking at.

1023
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: Me like, yo because that's not.

1024
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: You AND i was LIKE i wasn't trying to hear.

1025
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: It so they try to make me.

1026
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: GO i remember them trying to make me go to

1027
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: the thing AND i was, Like i'm not about to

1028
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: talk to this, Lady LIKE i want to talk to.

1029
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: SOMEBODY i talked to my. SISTER i talked ABOUT ill

1030
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: talked about. It but it's like that whole, us as you,

1031
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: know coming from the hood we come, from we come

1032
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: up like. Crazy that's THE. Tv you talk to mental

1033
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: people ON. Tv and SO i ain't, crazy you, KNOW

1034
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: i just had them all possible with my. Sister i'm,

1035
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: feeling you know What i'm, Saying that's HOW i. Was

1036
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: but then it was, like it's like you, say when

1037
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: you get, older it's kind of like the same. Thing

1038
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: you sprain your, ankle you go get treatment. Ankle you

1039
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying you you get treatment for. That

1040
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: like why if your heart is hurting on your brain it's,

1041
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: hurting why you don't go seek that treatment for?

1042
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: That, so you know What i'm.

1043
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: SAYING i began to understand that WHEN i got. Old,

1044
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: then you, Know i'm glad with you, know with them

1045
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: having former players like you And kean and different. People

1046
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: you know That kevin loves The Marty rods and speak

1047
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: stepping forward like it's making it a lot more comfortable

1048
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 3: and acceptable for these. Kids it's coming up as opposed.

1049
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: To how we.

1050
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 3: Were we were, all like you, said we were bearing

1051
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: it like, Man i'm too tough to do that like,

1052
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: That like that vel has been pulled down and it's

1053
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: like it's okay to do. This that's even more courageous

1054
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: to do this. Almost So i'm glad to see.

1055
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: That and, YEAH i have, children, Right, so you, know

1056
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: when working with these kids in the. SCHOOL i remember

1057
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: first TIME i got a call come to a, SCHOOL

1058
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: i get kind of choked. Up nine year old commit

1059
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 2: suicide in. School you, know you get there and you

1060
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: know you're, asking you, know like what happened is things like,

1061
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: bullying you, know and then you see it happen again

1062
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: in the news and again and, again and it's, like,

1063
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: man we got to talk about these. Things you. KNOW

1064
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: i run into ignorant. Parents, man like my kid has

1065
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: everything like what this kids you know in high school

1066
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: and has A mercedes and the mother that it's a.

1067
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 5: Dad.

1068
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: Right one, Situation dad's is going off and he walks

1069
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: away and the mother's like starts. CRYING i gotta get

1070
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: my kids some. Help you. Know it's just, like come,

1071
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: on like you have the. Resources there's a lot of programs,

1072
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: now there's no reason to suffering. Silence you. KNOW i

1073
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: feel my case for my, FAMILY i bear the, burden you,

1074
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: know and through a lot and in my, family you damage.

1075
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Relationships people don't, understand they don't think it's. Real and you,

1076
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: KNOW i got to the point Where i'm, Like i'm

1077
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna do this. Work it hurts BECAUSE i had to

1078
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: really like follow my protocol and, say you know that

1079
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: the doctors were, saying work through a lot of, stuff

1080
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: but to help my, family you, know so my little,

1081
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: cousins you, know IF i decide to have, kids they

1082
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: don't have to deal with. That i'm gonna be better. Prepared,

1083
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: yeah that's.

1084
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: Dope you in the podcast game in the space and

1085
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: talk about what you're doing and what you're bringing to.

1086
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 5: Us.

1087
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: Right, so my soigned Throwing american public media to do a,

1088
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: podcast and SO i will be interviewing and chatting it

1089
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: out with other athletes who, have you, know experienced some

1090
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: mental health, concerns all different. Sports so the first one

1091
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 2: we recorded a couple of weeks, ago my childhood Friend.

1092
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: META i hate Saying. META i don't run our, test

1093
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: run our. Test So i'm looking forward to. It you.

1094
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Know they reached out to different athletes and got a

1095
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: lot of great feedback or. Whatever So i'm just looking

1096
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: forward To it's gonna be sitting in the cheer. Next.

1097
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Awesome you the fifth woman to score three thousand points

1098
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: in N c DOUBLE a, History like when you to achieve?

1099
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 5: That what's?

1100
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: That only five?

1101
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 5: Y'all it's only five.

1102
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: Y'all and that's that's that's pretty. Correct that's that's PRETTY

1103
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: i just REMEMBER i THINK i scored like three, thousand

1104
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: twenty five or something like, that, Right and THEN i

1105
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: remember me being an Big Alan houston, fan, right and they're, like,

1106
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: oh you know Your tennessee's all time. SCORING i, remember

1107
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: BUT i was a, fan you know, that. MAN i was,

1108
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: LIKE i WISH i had that.

1109
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: Jumper when we got to the, league were seeing all these,

1110
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: players and you, know we watched the. Game so when

1111
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: we Seen Alan, houston he was down there and he

1112
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: was going through a shooting regiment before the.

1113
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: Game i'm talking about. Everything he won't he hit the.

1114
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: Rim so then he, came you, know we spoke to

1115
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: him and, stuff and we looked at his.

1116
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: Shoes he just HAD h TWO o on his. Shoes

1117
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 5: LIKE i was, always.

1118
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: It's, nice, man he's really. GOOD i saw him a

1119
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: couple of months agoing To, tennessee so that was.

1120
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Dope step Find. MARBURRY i know you got the chance

1121
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: to see.

1122
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: Be the same same same.

1123
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Year marberry is considered the Best New york player ever to.

1124
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: Play, Marbury, YEAH i.

1125
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: CONSIDERED i think she.

1126
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: Has a DIFFERENT i Love STEPH i Think steph is

1127
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: a great. PLAYER i mean the same, year like he's a.

1128
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Legend but come, on you that's before your time a little.

1129
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: Bit but, yeah you got. CULTURE i Mean stephan might say,

1130
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 2: That kenny.

1131
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: AND i understand. That but you know me for being

1132
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: from the outside looking. In the Best New york PLAYER

1133
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: i ever seen come out Of New. York to, me it's.

1134
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: Stuff was. Nice. Man we had so many, Though Like

1135
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: stuff was at the point. Guard i'll give him. That

1136
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: but at that time high, school we Have Filippe Philip

1137
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: you seen Him.

1138
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: Sensation, yeah he ranged his, name rang across the lands,

1139
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: too Like philippe definitely rang across the lands like Hen

1140
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: he definitely rang across the, lands kind of.

1141
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: Like bro a point. Guard Players.

1142
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: Kareem Read Sham god one is the one? Mixtape boy was.

1143
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 4: Yall had?

1144
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: SKIPPED i Thought RAF's real name was skipped to my

1145
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: little everybody called them.

1146
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 5: Skip he was.

1147
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: Nice maybe a lot of, players but Y'all chicago. TOO

1148
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: i always, say isn't About New york And chicago on

1149
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 2: the street street. BASKETBALL i try to tell.

1150
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: People all the, time like it just is what it.

1151
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Is I'VE i respect, That Like i'm From. Illinois so

1152
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully i'm part of that.

1153
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: List if you, like just be cousins and, everything you.

1154
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: Might let you come to the.

1155
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Bar you want mister basketball For, illinois you re mister

1156
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: basketball For. Illinois you, didn't that's all.

1157
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: What you know is. Changing it's just like you, know it's,

1158
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: political and for both of us to be In. Chicago

1159
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: New york basketball is kind of taking a dip because

1160
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: all These atlanta And, georgia the, suburbs they're stealing our.

1161
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: Guys But New york's basketball is like, Down.

1162
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah we're still right.

1163
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Here you know, Who Really chicago still were pumping. Them

1164
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 3: he's pumping them. Out who've been.

1165
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Pumping them out a lot lot though lately and most

1166
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: of the players that's the superstars in the league Or,

1167
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: california like THE La area and so forth. On you

1168
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: got all these guys FROM la that's really in the,

1169
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: league like a bunch of, them right from The, trevors

1170
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: from the West, brooks The James harden And Paul.

1171
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: George oh, yeah you're.

1172
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: Right, wise it's a bunch of them they pushing out these.

1173
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 5: Days shout out To california for.

1174
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: Real we gotta get back On New york.

1175
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,960
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1176
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1180
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1181
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1182
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1183
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Speaker 2: at it to my. Bar you know What i'm.

1184
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1185
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1187
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1188
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1190
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Speaker 3: Historians so we watched. You we was close in, years

1191
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1192
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Speaker 3: Have i'm a big time lifelong fan of all that you.

1193
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1195
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