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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, this is Native Lampid. We are live from
Speaker 3: the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, home at home, and it.
Speaker 3: Is episode thirty three. But we also have a very
Speaker 3: special guest. And today for all the trolls, they will
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 5: Here again this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real talent.
Speaker 6: Yeah twice to do it twice.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you shout out.
Speaker 8: Shout out to that young lady in the in the
Speaker 8: Jacksonville Airport that worked in the subway who chased me
Speaker 8: down leaving her shift. She was making a six inch
Speaker 8: sub She left that person hanging to tell me she
Speaker 8: voted for me.
Speaker 5: You, Betty, you know what I said.
Speaker 8: I want you to know every vote counts and I
Speaker 8: remember that.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm happy here with us.
Speaker 1: Can I just say really quickly, I really appreciate eight
Speaker 1: that you are the sole voice of reason so often
Speaker 1: on CNN, and I'm excited that you'll be joining us
Speaker 1: for this another historic time, uh in Chicago.
Speaker 8: Think I'm happy. I'm happy. It's a family affair. I
Speaker 8: got y'all. I got uncle, I got uncle Jesse. You
Speaker 8: just walked out on stage.
Speaker 9: And it looks like you're welcoming a guest right next
Speaker 9: to ya.
Speaker 1: Hello, we are welcome woman in her district of Chicago.
Speaker 4: We just yes you hear hello, congress Woman Kelly.
Speaker 7: Bring up, turned around just a little bit.
Speaker 3: You are so happy to have a Congressman Robing Kelly
Speaker 3: joining us there. It's like it's like flying an airplane.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Thank you, Thanks woman, thank you.
Speaker 6: So I guess so welcome should be from her.
Speaker 4: You're in my town.
Speaker 9: Okay, your town.
Speaker 4: I want Danny Davis getting mad.
Speaker 9: We'll take them.
Speaker 5: We'll take them. If you got.
Speaker 10: Twenty blocks south of McCormick Place, we got.
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, that sounds falls. I know to talk about
Speaker 8: talk about the work y'all did, because one of the
Speaker 8: things I realized is that your coordination that you've done
Speaker 8: with McCormick Place, with this arena, with local law enforcement,
Speaker 8: federal law enforcement, protesters, Kamala Harir supporters, it's been seamless.
Speaker 8: Y'all have done good work. That's a testament to you
Speaker 8: and everybody else.
Speaker 10: It really took a village to pull this off, and
Speaker 10: it took everyone's cooperation. And one thing that uh, the
Speaker 10: organizers did, I'm giving them the credit that they made
Speaker 10: sure that all of us were in hotels that were
Speaker 10: not more than five miles away from either McCormick Place
Speaker 10: or the United Cent are very convenient, even though traffic
Speaker 10: is still a little rough, you know, But I just
Speaker 10: think you're right. It was seamless, a lot of cooperation.
Speaker 10: People really wanted this to work, and they wanted to
Speaker 10: show Chicago's best side book people come back and visit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's been seamless so far, honestly, like the
Speaker 1: maneuvering around the city. What are you most looking forward
Speaker 1: to about this time? We have a lot of listeners
Speaker 1: across a lot of demographics, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of age groups, and a lot of people be watching
Speaker 1: the primetime speakers tonight. Who are you most looking forward
Speaker 1: to here? And what do you want the people to
Speaker 1: take away watching this democratic this historic democratic national convention.
Speaker 4: Well, of course this is the vice President's show, so
Speaker 4: the president.
Speaker 10: But of course looking.
Speaker 4: Forward to seeing her.
Speaker 10: But you know, I'm House Democrat, so looking forward to
Speaker 10: seeing my leader the next speaker all and you know
Speaker 10: he can.
Speaker 4: He can speak Congressman.
Speaker 1: Hackeen Jeffries for our viewers watching Hills out of New York.
Speaker 10: And of course a guy President Obama can bring it
Speaker 10: on to really looking forward to everybody because they're all
Speaker 10: going to bring that little piece to the table to
Speaker 10: make it a whole, you know, in supporting our president elect.
Speaker 9: Congresswoman.
Speaker 6: Tonight, we're going to hear from I think this may
Speaker 6: go down historically is one of the most selfless individuals
Speaker 6: in politics, and it's this man. Oh, this man, help him,
Speaker 6: help him, Congress.
Speaker 9: But we're gonna hear from the sitting president.
Speaker 6: I just I'd love to hear any reflections you may
Speaker 6: have as we begin the long road to goodbye on
Speaker 6: the political stage for a man who spent you know,
Speaker 6: half a century uh nearly giving his time, energy, effort,
Speaker 6: love to this country.
Speaker 10: Seriously, we're gonna have to have many boxes of tissues,
Speaker 10: you know, because a lot of us were definitely Team
Speaker 10: Biden until he decided, you know, team Harris, and all
Speaker 10: of us are Team Harris now. But he's he's is
Speaker 10: who he's been, and he's been one of the greatest presidents.
Speaker 10: And what we said in CBC promises made, promises kept,
Speaker 10: and the promises he couldn't keep. The legislature stopped him, well,
Speaker 10: the court stopped him. But when think about his accomplishments,
Speaker 10: his legacy, you know, our Supreme Court justice, first vice president,
Speaker 10: African American, this first woman, you know black, you know president,
Speaker 10: So now you said.
Speaker 4: To speak it.
Speaker 9: So that's that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: That's all of his legacy.
Speaker 10: And then all of the things we've been able to accomplish,
Speaker 10: sixty percent more entrepreneurship by Black Americans, the student loans
Speaker 10: that I know people personally that you know have been
Speaker 10: helped by that, and he wanted to do more, but
Speaker 10: you know he couldn't. The lowest black and brown unemployment
Speaker 10: rate ever, you know, and I know people are still hurting,
Speaker 10: so we have to acknowledge that. But that's what the
Speaker 10: next president is going to continue to work on.
Speaker 9: That's exactly right.
Speaker 11: That's exactly right.
Speaker 6: Is there I was saying tonight, I was hoping that
Speaker 6: the cheers may be so loud that we don't even
Speaker 6: get to hear.
Speaker 9: His speech as it.
Speaker 12: Oh, they'll be loud.
Speaker 9: I expect, I expect it to be the case.
Speaker 6: I just wonder if there was a if there was
Speaker 6: a well wish that you had for for for this
Speaker 6: president beyond his time in service to the country.
Speaker 9: Uh, what would it be?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 9: What is your highest hope for.
Speaker 10: I just want him to know that he has loved
Speaker 10: and appreciated and valued and we will never forget his contributions.
Speaker 4: And I know he.
Speaker 10: You know, he might be a little you know, disappointed
Speaker 10: and feel some kind of way, but he knows how
Speaker 10: many of us were in his corner will continue to
Speaker 10: be in his corner.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, I was gonna say, Congressman Kelly, we
Speaker 3: are so grateful for your time. We actually had some
Speaker 3: technical difficulties getting started, so for the viewers at home,
Speaker 3: we love y'all. We were not trying to be delayed,
Speaker 3: but with all the excitement, we just had to keep
Speaker 3: it moving and Congressman Kelly, we did not want to
Speaker 3: start this off without hearing from you.
Speaker 4: Thank you first.
Speaker 3: We also have Mayor rest Maraka joining us, and we're
Speaker 3: so so happy about that. He's got a candidacy to
Speaker 3: announce this maybe the future governor of New Jersey, and
Speaker 3: we just want make sure that we get get you
Speaker 3: in and talk to somebody from my CBC fam Harrison
Speaker 3: and Kelly, So thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mayor.
Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you, Mayor, Mayor ras Baraka.
Speaker 13: I'm happy to be on well.
Speaker 1: We are excited to hear because we may soon be
Speaker 1: calling you governor.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I love you.
Speaker 1: So we have a lot of people watching from all
Speaker 1: over the country tonight and our by Congresswoman h Our.
Speaker 1: Our viewers span a lot of different demographics, so we
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. If somebody doesn't live in
Speaker 1: New Jersey, you would still be a historic governor.
Speaker 4: And this is a historic d n C. So talk
Speaker 4: to us.
Speaker 1: Draw the through line for us about what it would
Speaker 1: mean to have the first black mayor of New Jersey
Speaker 1: at the same time that we may have the first
Speaker 1: that we will have the first black woman leading the country.
Speaker 14: For first black governor of the state of New Jersey
Speaker 14: will be number two in the entire country. Uh my
Speaker 14: frat brother Wes Moore in Maryland and me and New
Speaker 14: Jersey only the fourth in the country's history.
Speaker 1: Letters, we got a lot of alpha fai alpha of course,
Speaker 1: the oldest and the coldest.
Speaker 8: That's why, that's why I took them five years to graduate.
Speaker 9: Five years.
Speaker 1: And you are a Howard University graduates like our future
Speaker 1: president Kabla Harris so Hu.
Speaker 14: And they're only fourth in the entire country, which is
Speaker 14: a sad state of affairs for the country. But it
Speaker 14: means a lot of work that we must do UH
Speaker 14: here and I think the things that Kamala is fighting
Speaker 14: for UH in the nation of things that we're trying
Speaker 14: to organize around in the state of New Jersey, uh
Speaker 14: and and around the country as well. So we're excited
Speaker 14: for this national election, but we're also excited for twenty
Speaker 14: twenty five, which when New Jersey will make history and
Speaker 14: make me the first black governor in the state's history.
Speaker 1: Well, we're looking forward to seeing that. I think you're
Speaker 1: on the panel. Angela and mccari and Andrew and myself.
Speaker 1: We're all huge hip hop bands, hip hop heads, and
Speaker 1: you are. You come from the tradition of hip hop
Speaker 1: and spoken word, so it's something meaningful to us to
Speaker 1: see somebody we can relate to and talk to and
Speaker 1: who comes from our era, our generation to conflate hip
Speaker 1: hop in politics.
Speaker 13: That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you have any thoughts on the role
Speaker 1: hip hop plays in politics.
Speaker 14: Well in my place day, well today, I think hip
Speaker 14: hop will always be you know, as Chuck D said
Speaker 14: the CNN of our community right, and so or most
Speaker 14: depth says, wherever hip hop is going is wherever the
Speaker 14: black community is going.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 14: So when we look at what's happening in the hip
Speaker 14: hop community or hip hop music, good or bad, it
Speaker 14: gives you a kind of a point or reference to
Speaker 14: where we are in the black community and what we
Speaker 14: have to work on, what we have to do.
Speaker 13: How far we've come, and how far we must go.
Speaker 14: So because we say everything we want to say when
Speaker 14: we need to say it, and we put a little
Speaker 14: sass behind a little beat on top of it, and
Speaker 14: everybody can understand it, you know, and it gives you clear,
Speaker 14: real clarity in terms of what it is that we
Speaker 14: need to do to improve what's happening in our community.
Speaker 8: You're somebody who understands your place and your role, your
Speaker 8: place in history and what it means to be who
Speaker 8: you are and carry your name and the legacies and
Speaker 8: the shoulders that you stand on. Tonight was an amazing
Speaker 8: moment when Jesse Jackson came on stage as the first
Speaker 8: opening special guest in Chicago of all places, beautiful sixty
Speaker 8: years since we've had freedom summer, and Fanny lou Hamer
Speaker 8: was able to echo those words from the convention floor,
Speaker 8: talk about just your role in history, how you stand
Speaker 8: on the shoulders of those heroes and heroines, and how
Speaker 8: you take that seriously.
Speaker 7: Some people don't understand.
Speaker 8: How others do, but how that helps form who you
Speaker 8: are is not only a man, but also as an
Speaker 8: elected official.
Speaker 14: I always say, like some people inherit money, we inherit responsibility.
Speaker 14: And so while other people might get privileged passed down
Speaker 14: from the generation and generation, we get responsibility. We have,
Speaker 14: you know, all kinds of legacy that we have to
Speaker 14: keep going and keep pushing.
Speaker 13: People expect us to do that.
Speaker 14: In fact, they look for you to open your mouth
Speaker 14: when other people keep their ship, to step up when
Speaker 14: other people step back, to be unafraid and unapologetic. They
Speaker 14: look for you to do that. It's almost that you're
Speaker 14: being pushed out there. I remember that Donald Payne's funeral.
Speaker 14: I said to folks that people have things to say
Speaker 14: about Donald Paine. The reality is he had to be
Speaker 14: the Congressman as soon as he was born. Right the
Speaker 14: things that he had to step into and get ready
Speaker 14: for and prepare for.
Speaker 13: He didn't ask for.
Speaker 14: These are things that were thrust upon him, so he
Speaker 14: had to get itself ready for that. And it's the
Speaker 14: same with me and many people in these positions. They
Speaker 14: expect you to do what they expect you to do,
Speaker 14: and when you embrace it, when you embrace it and
Speaker 14: understand what it really means, then you go straight ahead
Speaker 14: into it.
Speaker 13: You know, you go straight ahead without fail.
Speaker 14: And that's what I'm doing, and I think I have
Speaker 14: a responsibility to finish the things that our parents began.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of parents, you know that our bond was
Speaker 3: really created talking about that nineteen seventy two National Black
Speaker 3: Political Convention, hunting for that agenda, and when we did
Speaker 3: lay hands on that agenda, Mayor as as you know,
Speaker 3: we see that there's so many things that we still
Speaker 3: have yet to accomplish. I know that you're doing the
Speaker 3: work in new work, and you're setting such a great
Speaker 3: standard and building your own legacy in your local community.
Speaker 4: But what will you tell local elected.
Speaker 3: Officials who tune in and watching this, or folks who
Speaker 3: aspire to run for office, how can we lean into
Speaker 3: that agenda into ensuring that this party represents the interests
Speaker 3: of all of our folks.
Speaker 13: Well, and you're right as some simple as DC statehood, yes, reparation.
Speaker 4: Right, they were.
Speaker 14: Talking about those things in nineteen seventy two where we
Speaker 14: are and we still have not achieved any of those things, right,
Speaker 14: And so it means that we have to not just
Speaker 14: be in the Democratic Party because we're in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 13: We have to make the Democratic Party represent us and represent.
Speaker 3: All the clean Woman.
Speaker 4: Congress Maxie Waters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we love you so, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Just so you all know at home, Congressman Maxie Waters
Speaker 1: is Angela's yeah.
Speaker 15: I'm sorry anytime, anytime.
Speaker 4: We have an audience that you all can't see. And
Speaker 4: she just said, I'm coming on with y'all.
Speaker 1: She so we know you're in the rest of the week, Yes,
Speaker 1: ma'm we will have congress Woman Waters on with them Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Careen cancel, We're coming back. Angela is talking to the audience.
Speaker 1: As you all see, well, it's live native, we got
Speaker 1: an audience interactive.
Speaker 6: If I could, I just I want to want to
Speaker 6: congratulate you for the excellent work that you've been doing
Speaker 6: already as a sitting mayor. But as a as a
Speaker 6: former mayor myself, I often encountered people who were disillusioned
Speaker 6: by the pace of change that they wanted to see
Speaker 6: in the community right, and then they would get in
Speaker 6: some ways frustrated when we might aspire to a higher
Speaker 6: position without all of what we want to have done
Speaker 6: and perfect in the communities in which we come from.
Speaker 6: And I wonder for you, how do you help folks
Speaker 6: in the community to see that your work as a
Speaker 6: mayor can only be further broad elevated if you were
Speaker 6: to become governor. But how do you make the connection
Speaker 6: for folks who don't follow politics so closely as to
Speaker 6: why it is you would go from being a local
Speaker 6: mayor with an excellent resume but more work to do,
Speaker 6: to now being mayor, I mean being governor something like mayor,
Speaker 6: but of a state governor of New Jersey.
Speaker 14: That's a good point because you're an executive and you're moving.
Speaker 14: A lot of these people who run for governor are
Speaker 14: not executives. Never ran anything that, never organized anything. The
Speaker 14: buck never stopped with this ran. They don't have to
Speaker 14: answer or be responsible for anything.
Speaker 13: But we do.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 14: So the things that we do locally people do get
Speaker 14: frustrated when you begin to move on because they feel
Speaker 14: like it took you too long to do what you did,
Speaker 14: and they want it.
Speaker 13: They want you to finish. You gave them, that's right.
Speaker 14: But but you know, when you move on, you have
Speaker 14: more resources, more opportunity to field is bigger, uh, you know,
Speaker 14: because what we're trying to do is heavy, and so
Speaker 14: to move it, you need more hands on deck. You
Speaker 14: need more people involved. You need more resources, more, more laws,
Speaker 14: more opportunity.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 14: And you also need to make way for somebody else
Speaker 14: because you don't want to be the mayor forever that key.
Speaker 14: You want to be able to bring people up. We
Speaker 14: grew up in a place where the mayors were mayored
Speaker 14: for twenty years. I never wanted to do that, right,
Speaker 14: So I want to be able to groom young people
Speaker 14: so they could take over where we left off and
Speaker 14: begin to carry it baton further and then be in
Speaker 14: a spot to give them the resources that nobody gave.
Speaker 8: Me before you. I was gonna say, before you leave,
Speaker 8: tell people what you what you need. I mean, because
Speaker 8: you know, likes on your Twitter feed and prayer right
Speaker 8: are good, but that ain't how you necessarily win elections.
Speaker 8: Andrew didn't make it that far on love alone.
Speaker 14: Right, I would say, go to Rask for Governor and donate.
Speaker 14: We need ten dollars, twenty dollars, thirty dollars, forty dollars.
Speaker 13: We need that. We are you know, we are high
Speaker 13: up in the polls. We're doing well.
Speaker 14: Our name recognition is big because we're the mayor of
Speaker 14: the largest city in the state.
Speaker 13: Our favorabilities are high.
Speaker 14: We just need the resources to be able to knock
Speaker 14: on doors and pass out literatures and literature and come
Speaker 14: to your neighborhood and your block. So I would, you know,
Speaker 14: admonish people to go to rasfogovernor dot com and donate
Speaker 14: as much as you can. And if you live in
Speaker 14: New Jersey, host something in your house and let us
Speaker 14: come through and I'll come talk to two people, three people,
Speaker 14: thirty people, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're HEARDing Native lampod fam invite the governor elects.
Speaker 4: We're going to speak that into existence into your house.
Speaker 1: Mister mayor. Thank you so much. We know it's very
Speaker 1: the busy time for you. So we want to thank
Speaker 1: you for joining us, hate you taking the time.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We are joined now by Derek Johnson, the president of
Speaker 1: N double A CP, and Angela and Derek have a
Speaker 1: unique history.
Speaker 4: Angela, you want to tell us about your.
Speaker 5: Bond you all have.
Speaker 3: Yes, we actually and the that's a good teaser for
Speaker 3: our next guest. Derek and I become like siblings because
Speaker 3: of the tutelage and the mentorship of Benny Gordon Thompson,
Speaker 3: who of course was mentored by Fanny Louhammer. And that's
Speaker 3: the sixth year anniversary that Bacari just referenced. Derek, you
Speaker 3: are running the most innovative campaign in restoring the brand
Speaker 3: and the legacy of N double ACP. Talk to us
Speaker 3: about why this week is so important for the civil
Speaker 3: rights community and and what you had to say in
Speaker 3: your speech in bringing people into the folk.
Speaker 16: Well, it's significant because we didn't get here because we
Speaker 16: woke up this morning.
Speaker 4: One second, Derek, we are yeah, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 11: You're on one.
Speaker 8: Yes, sure, that was Angela those I think.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 11: So we didn't get here because we woke up this morning.
Speaker 16: We got here because there was a lot of sacrifice, blood,
Speaker 16: strategy and work to.
Speaker 11: Bring us to this moment.
Speaker 16: And so part of what I talked about in the
Speaker 16: speech was given the history of the nineteen sixty four
Speaker 16: Missipi Democratic Freedom Democratic Party and all the work they
Speaker 16: did leading up to nineteen seventy three in large city
Speaker 16: mayors getting elected, whether it's Manager Jackson, coman young Tom
Speaker 16: Bradley turning the corner to nineteen eighty four to eighty
Speaker 16: eight with Jesse Jackson, who really established what was possible,
Speaker 16: would keep hope alive, and you turn the corner. You
Speaker 16: look at this moment, we would not have a convention
Speaker 16: the way we're having. And now if individuals didn't put
Speaker 16: together strategy, they understood the rules, they implemented the rules,
Speaker 16: and they didn't run to the microphone. They ran to
Speaker 16: the work. And that's what's really important.
Speaker 1: Derek, let me ask you, because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people you and I met in Jackson where you
Speaker 1: did a lot of work, and in Jackson, the NAACP
Speaker 1: is like a governing body practically has a lot of relevance.
Speaker 1: There are cities where you know, when it's time for strategy,
Speaker 1: don't hear people say, oh, I just came from the
Speaker 1: NAACP meeting. So for people who don't necessarily have a
Speaker 1: personal connection to the organization, what today is the significance
Speaker 1: of the NAACP and why should people their care?
Speaker 16: Excellent question. So you know one of thing I'm gonna
Speaker 16: start here piably too. Ray socli car Micros to come
Speaker 16: to two Glue College where I'm a graduate every year
Speaker 16: and he would say organize, organized, organized, and he said,
Speaker 16: whether it was your Sunday school or this organization, I
Speaker 16: don't believe in organizational supremacy. I believe in getting the
Speaker 16: work done. And if the NACP is your vehicle for voice,
Speaker 16: then use it. If you go to another community, is
Speaker 16: that's not your vehicle, but you have a vehicle to
Speaker 16: impart a Black community, then I celebrate that.
Speaker 11: So for us, we got.
Speaker 16: To make sure that community by community we build out
Speaker 16: an infrastructure of black power and use the vehicles that
Speaker 16: are available in ACP. We are most predominant in the
Speaker 16: Southeast region where the former Confederate States, where majority of
Speaker 16: black people live, not large metropolitan areas. In fact, I
Speaker 16: met Andrew through the NACP when where he was a
Speaker 16: high school student and then went on to the family
Speaker 16: Because in local communities, whether you Florida with th h Pool,
Speaker 16: when you started Aaron Herroy, when I started that's the infrastructure.
Speaker 11: The backbone of the black community.
Speaker 16: We oftentimes look to major city politics and we forget
Speaker 16: about majority of black folks don't live in Detroit, Chicago,
Speaker 16: New York.
Speaker 11: They live in the Southeast region.
Speaker 8: Yea from Chicago from Mississippi anyway is nothing but the
Speaker 8: capital of minister Mississippi.
Speaker 11: I mean, this is nor North Mississippi.
Speaker 16: And you think about you know your father, right, your
Speaker 16: father was a part of that group who put forth
Speaker 16: a strategy as students to recognize that this generational fight
Speaker 16: we have us versus them all, versus young male versus female.
Speaker 16: It's a self defeating reality. Intergenerational organized have always been
Speaker 16: the most effective approach. Community centric leadership is the most
Speaker 16: effective approach. When you start having ecocentric leadership is the
Speaker 16: beginning of the end because individuals will fail you, but
Speaker 16: community interests will always seceed.
Speaker 11: And that's how I try to lead to NACP. So
Speaker 11: if I go to the community in a CP, ain't
Speaker 11: the lead?
Speaker 16: Great, plug me into what is the lead? Because i'most
Speaker 16: celebrate that too.
Speaker 8: Go ahead ahead, what are some of the I mean,
Speaker 8: we celebrate you often, but we don't necessarily know the
Speaker 8: challenges you face. What are some of the challenges you
Speaker 8: face and overcome on a daily basis as being the
Speaker 8: leader of the oldest civil rights organization.
Speaker 7: Yeah, remember the.
Speaker 16: Internal community external, because internal a mess. If anybody ever
Speaker 16: went to a tend of the Black Baptist Church, that's
Speaker 16: the nub A CP.
Speaker 11: We are all of you. Name it.
Speaker 1: Benny Thompson, who's of course ranking member on Homeland Security
Speaker 1: out of Mississippi, and he and Derek and Angela all
Speaker 1: work together in the House were of Congress.
Speaker 4: We look, we work for this lovely gentleman.
Speaker 3: He's also the superstar that you all were recognized from
Speaker 3: the January sixth Special Committee.
Speaker 5: Welcome, Boss, thank you so much. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 4: We're happy to have you.
Speaker 6: You arrived just in time, Congressman, because Derek was about
Speaker 6: to tell us what is the biggest challenge he faces
Speaker 6: at the NAACP and needs all of our help and
Speaker 6: try to address.
Speaker 5: Is money?
Speaker 16: Is people with common sense and courage. You get the money,
Speaker 16: common sense and courage.
Speaker 7: You know the content.
Speaker 11: And I it was been fourteen years ago.
Speaker 16: I was in DC for something and we were trying
Speaker 16: to get someone to activate because we was doing inside
Speaker 16: outside strategy and look, he says, you know, I'm getting older.
Speaker 11: You can't do this by yourself.
Speaker 16: We need to build something so we can replenish the
Speaker 16: progressive black community in Mississippi.
Speaker 5: You are fourteen years later.
Speaker 16: We have a whole system where we train people over
Speaker 16: nine months, twenty five folks, and we put them that
Speaker 16: we have. I mean, you have actually US attorney nominees,
Speaker 16: district attorney sheriffs, beautations, barbers. Because the leadership don't come
Speaker 16: with titles or degrees, becomes with courage and common sense.
Speaker 11: And that's how we see this.
Speaker 1: Congressman, I want to bring you in the conversation because
Speaker 1: Derek was just explaining to our listeners or something. We
Speaker 1: all know that a lot of times in the mainstream
Speaker 1: media when we talk about rural politics, the face of
Speaker 1: that politic is the body politic is a white person.
Speaker 1: When we know a lot of our community lives below
Speaker 1: the Bible belt in rural communities, we too are rural America.
Speaker 1: You have championed legislation the lack of hospitalization in the South.
Speaker 1: That was a piece of legislation that you introduced in
Speaker 1: the House to make health care more accessible.
Speaker 4: What would you say to the people who.
Speaker 1: Feel forgotten about in those Bible belts, like, how can
Speaker 1: they too sing America and be acknowledged that they too
Speaker 1: are a part of a country that sometimes it so
Speaker 1: often forgets about it.
Speaker 17: Well, thank you so much for having me. The notion is,
Speaker 17: in this democracy, you have to participate.
Speaker 5: What we have to do is to.
Speaker 17: Organize those communities just like we organize urban areas.
Speaker 5: They're no different.
Speaker 17: They've just been overlooked and once you get there you
Speaker 17: find out, Gee, they are just like people in the
Speaker 17: big city. And so what we have to do is
Speaker 17: have a joint strategy urban rule to make sure that
Speaker 17: no one is overlooked. Our problem in America is that
Speaker 17: we somehow, even in urban areas, overlook the black community.
Speaker 5: In the rural areas, they're forgotten.
Speaker 17: And so we just resolved a lot of black farmer
Speaker 17: issues in this country.
Speaker 5: Huge, that's right. But this is the fourth time that
Speaker 5: we had to do a pavement.
Speaker 7: You know, we did the pickfoot case pick for the
Speaker 7: one and two.
Speaker 17: That's right, And so all of a sudden, people say, oh,
Speaker 17: isn't that wonderful now, but we're still behind because a
Speaker 17: lot of people who still owe debt.
Speaker 5: Uh that got the money, but they owe more money
Speaker 5: in debt than they had.
Speaker 4: John Boyd, that's right.
Speaker 17: So what we have to do now is to somehow
Speaker 17: come up with that strategy that encompasses it all. And
Speaker 17: so that's why at a convention like this, we need
Speaker 17: to make sure that a lot of those policies after
Speaker 17: we celebrate, are talked about and that that that policy
Speaker 17: is absolutely how.
Speaker 13: We put it together.
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite things about having worked for you,
Speaker 3: and I think still work for you. I learned from
Speaker 3: him all the time, and you will always say, we
Speaker 3: can celebrate this, but we got work to do, so
Speaker 3: we can't celebrate too long. What are some of the
Speaker 3: things that you think it is imperative in addition to
Speaker 3: taking care of our rural communities that have to be
Speaker 3: addressed this week. We know there are protests happening simultaneous.
Speaker 17: Yeah, but you know, to be honest with you, the
Speaker 17: protests that are going on when you talk to people
Speaker 17: in my district, it's probably number twenty out of fifteen
Speaker 17: in terms of priorities because everybody is in a survival mode.
Speaker 17: They want to make sure that kids get education, they
Speaker 17: want healthcare. Now you can talk foreign policy, but you know,
Speaker 17: it's about what I'm getting right here at home, and
Speaker 17: if the policies don't impact me at home, it's tough
Speaker 17: for me to look overseas at a policy. The other
Speaker 17: situation we have to do is to make sure that
Speaker 17: the policy make us don't overlook people. That paternalistic approach
Speaker 17: to politics is crazy. That means that, oh, you just
Speaker 17: elect me and I know what's good for you. That's
Speaker 17: absolutely ludicrous. You know, unless you've walked in my shoes,
Speaker 17: you don't know anything about me other than what you
Speaker 17: might have read. And so our challenge in this country
Speaker 17: is to put those concerns on the front burner. You know,
Speaker 17: too many times we've been told, oh, oh, we're gonna
Speaker 17: get to it. Yeah, you know, I got to get elected.
Speaker 17: And you know, look, every major entity in this country
Speaker 17: has leverage, but somehow the black community has always been told, well,
Speaker 17: you know it'll come, you know it'll and it never comes.
Speaker 6: Congressman, can you speak to as our nominee Kamala Harrison
Speaker 6: continues to make her rounds around the country a lot
Speaker 6: of time and in really important flip states. But I
Speaker 6: wonder to the point that you just made for the
Speaker 6: community that sits at home and says, we're always the
Speaker 6: backbone of this party, but we rarely rarely get to
Speaker 6: toil in the largest of it. What advice might you
Speaker 6: have for her, as she, of course rightly focuses on
Speaker 6: some of these swing states to ensure that a message
Speaker 6: is delivered are at home community that she's gonna be
Speaker 6: their president too.
Speaker 17: Well, that's why the speech I'm looking for Thursday night
Speaker 17: has to be encomplishing of all the Democratic constituents. And
Speaker 17: I think she is that person properly positioned to make
Speaker 17: those arguments on behalf not just of people of color,
Speaker 17: but people who have been left out. And so it's look,
Speaker 17: the people on the other side are gonna demogogue her
Speaker 17: for sure anyway, So you might as well come with
Speaker 17: those issues that are important, and once you come with them,
Speaker 17: then you go with it.
Speaker 13: But you come with sound.
Speaker 17: Policies, those policies around healthcare, those policies around education, those
Speaker 17: about income insecurity, all those kinds of things.
Speaker 5: I mean, one thing she's talking about with the housing issue, well,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 17: When you put that twenty five thousand dollars down on
Speaker 17: the home ownership thing, guess guess who does the financing.
Speaker 5: Guess who owns the lumber company?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 17: I mean, so it's a it's good for the economy.
Speaker 17: Don't look at that family that gets a home for
Speaker 17: the first time. Right, I'm still putting water systems together
Speaker 17: in my district. When the system comes and says, well,
Speaker 17: why are you always helping them? I said, I'm glad
Speaker 17: you asked. Do you know who owned the pipe company
Speaker 17: that sells all these pipes for this rual water system?
Speaker 17: You know who sells the meter who? So all we
Speaker 17: get is the water. We get none of the economics. Now,
Speaker 17: if we are really radical, we would say to that
Speaker 17: pipe company, you have to have a conversity equit an
Speaker 17: inclusion program so that when that community gets water, they
Speaker 17: also get.
Speaker 5: Some of the economics that go with it.
Speaker 11: That's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some said that's radical, but that's paying community back,
Speaker 5: putting people in office.
Speaker 8: Let me let me just ask a question of both
Speaker 8: of you guys, while you're here and before y'all traverse
Speaker 8: and meet all these people, good folks out here. What
Speaker 8: I've been admiring is nineteen eighty four was Jesse, two
Speaker 8: thousand and eight was Barack Obama. Twenty sixteen was also
Speaker 8: Hillary with a little history. They all stand on the
Speaker 8: shoulders of Fanny Lou and they stand on the shoulders
Speaker 8: of Shirley Chisholm. But what are you seeing in this
Speaker 8: convention that makes Kamala Harris a little bit different? And
Speaker 8: what do you hope we learned from all of those
Speaker 8: heroes and heroines that have come before. Well, and that's
Speaker 8: for both of that one, both of you guys.
Speaker 17: Yes, yeah, Well I knew Fann and Lou oh very personally.
Speaker 17: She became my role mal. The first real campaign I
Speaker 17: worked in was her campaign for Congress, of which I
Speaker 17: now represent that district. So you know, history has a
Speaker 17: way of repeating itself, so that legacy we can't let
Speaker 17: become forgotten. So for sixty years she came and said
Speaker 17: to Democrats, you know you got to do better. You know,
Speaker 17: you can't patronize us and then enjoy all the spoies
Speaker 17: of victory.
Speaker 5: You have to be inclusive.
Speaker 17: And that's what we have to do as a people,
Speaker 17: is not let our friends forget us, that's right, not
Speaker 17: let our friends take us for granted. And so for
Speaker 17: Fannyluke celebration sixty years, we're still in training.
Speaker 5: Because we haven't fulfilled.
Speaker 17: That notion that somehow, as fan Lu said, we're sick
Speaker 17: and tired of being sick and tired. And a lot
Speaker 17: of us are sick and tired of being sick and
Speaker 17: tired of telling our friends what they need to do.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, say it for the people in the back bus.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, you know the lesson and all of
Speaker 16: this is none of us can do it by ourselves.
Speaker 16: And if we think we are the super person that's
Speaker 16: gonna do by ourselves, we're gonna fail every time time,
Speaker 16: and we're going to disrupt progress of people. You know,
Speaker 16: I grew up in Detroit. I come to Mississippi. I
Speaker 16: went to Tugaloo, and instantly I was surrounded by, you know,
Speaker 16: a large number of folks who were civil rights veterans,
Speaker 16: whether it's snake or whatever else.
Speaker 13: And I felt at home.
Speaker 16: Why because the lessons that were there for me not
Speaker 16: to make old mistakes. We've got to stop making old mistakes.
Speaker 16: There as new ones to make. Secondly, you have people
Speaker 16: who were committed to improve the quite of life of
Speaker 16: our communities, and they had been doing it for generations. Thirdly,
Speaker 16: I have a responsibility to both listen to the wisdom
Speaker 16: and train the youth, because if we don't do that,
Speaker 16: we will lose the progress as made. We wouldn't sit
Speaker 16: we'd be we wouldn't be sitting here. We would have
Speaker 16: never had a Barack Obama if it wasn't for your father,
Speaker 16: if it wasn't for a fella new hammer, if it
Speaker 16: wasn't for you can name another a lot of people,
Speaker 16: including conference maker, ell a banker, you know, because they
Speaker 16: sacrificed and they would not you know, celebrities. Then we
Speaker 16: celebrate them more now, but now that they're dead than
Speaker 16: when they was alive. And so we need more people
Speaker 16: who are willing to sacrifice to improve the quality of
Speaker 16: life of all black folks and not just for themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I ask so, Congress, might I want to
Speaker 1: tell you that Angela told us a story one time
Speaker 1: about when she was your staffer and she was exhausted
Speaker 1: with something, and she made the mistake of saying she
Speaker 1: was tired, and you said you tired, stressed out, stressed
Speaker 1: out out, stressed out?
Speaker 4: Are you stressed out?
Speaker 1: We heard you gave her quite the tongue lashing that
Speaker 1: day for being stressed out.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when I was a young child, uh
Speaker 5: who loved me the most. Yes, gave me the worst
Speaker 5: whooping of my life. And that was my mama.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 17: And look and after Mama disciplined me, she said, I
Speaker 17: did that because I love you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all worse.
Speaker 17: She said, you know that hurt me more than it
Speaker 17: hurts you. So I take Angela in that perspective because
Speaker 17: I see the talent. The other thing she didn't tell
Speaker 17: you she might have is I told her that her
Speaker 17: job was to help me make some black folk rich
Speaker 17: in the government space. She looked at me and said,
Speaker 17: I said, look, I don't care what you do. If
Speaker 17: we need to bring booring Lockheed Martin the CEOs here
Speaker 17: and asked them about diversity, asked them about and so
Speaker 17: twice a month we brought those folks in and we asked,
Speaker 17: you know, do y'all have black people?
Speaker 4: I love that, you know, I mean, you know, I mean.
Speaker 5: It's it's what you do.
Speaker 1: How many people on your board, your corporate board, how
Speaker 1: many in the c suite the executive rings.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's right, we appreciate you.
Speaker 17: But now that the problem with that is those companies
Speaker 17: will go around my back. That's somebody who look like
Speaker 17: me and every time and try to you know, say, oh, well,
Speaker 17: you know, we can't talk to Benny, but we can
Speaker 17: talk to Robert.
Speaker 9: Perpetual, one of the people.
Speaker 4: Harriet was left behind.
Speaker 16: You let me sorry when you work for the count
Speaker 16: man my second day, he said, okay, let me tell
Speaker 16: you what you do.
Speaker 11: Your jobs have black folks, you may you're gonna make
Speaker 11: a mistake.
Speaker 16: That's okay. As long as you having black folks. If
Speaker 16: you make the mis sake, ain't having black folks. And
Speaker 16: we got a problem. But as long as you having
Speaker 16: black folks. Yeah, and you fast forward, you talk to
Speaker 16: our college. Our college will say tell you that his
Speaker 16: consultancy goverment relationships firm would not exist but for the
Speaker 16: contry because folks came to his office. One of meet
Speaker 16: he said, y'all come back when y'all got somebody that
Speaker 16: can talk to Well, you said, you got a recommendation.
Speaker 16: It's fell over here next to you know, Art starts
Speaker 16: the group.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he did it all ethically and above board.
Speaker 4: That's most important thing. Yes, absolutely, because you.
Speaker 5: Know car they would tell me, so, you know, if
Speaker 5: I could find somebody.
Speaker 7: Right there, but if I could find some if I
Speaker 7: could find some talent right today.
Speaker 3: Some times that made us put together a book for
Speaker 3: hearing witnesses, for appointees in the administration, for staffers. We
Speaker 3: absolutely had to do that. So you you talked right
Speaker 3: to his heart.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, we tried to do on mainstream media as well,
Speaker 1: because it's like, there are black people who can talk
Speaker 1: about Middle East politics, there are black people you can
Speaker 1: talk about domestic policies.
Speaker 6: But the example of the congressman what I love about it?
Speaker 6: And Derek, I'm going to tell you something about you
Speaker 6: and this but is it is? It is transferable any
Speaker 6: if you were an elected official, you're a policymaker. You
Speaker 6: are a person out there who runs owned business and
Speaker 6: you are operating right now, and you're not asking the
Speaker 6: sensible questions about why doesn't this reflect the community that
Speaker 6: we have?
Speaker 9: Why doesn't this room reflect the community that we have?
Speaker 6: When I lost the race for governor and twenty eighteen,
Speaker 6: one of the first calls I got in late twenty
Speaker 6: eighteen was from that brother over there, Derek Johnson, asking me,
Speaker 6: are you set up?
Speaker 9: Are you okay?
Speaker 6: He knew that, in addition to me having come out
Speaker 6: of that race that way, that I was also no
Speaker 6: longer mayor, and he didn't know what my economic situation was,
Speaker 6: but he can't go to do it. And I had kids,
Speaker 6: and he said he wanted me to be okay. And
Speaker 6: I use these two examples. One, they're excellent examples of.
Speaker 5: Humans.
Speaker 6: But their clarity around the way in which they are
Speaker 6: to impact the world is clear. But it doesn't belong
Speaker 6: to them. It's transferable. All of us can learn from
Speaker 6: it and.
Speaker 9: We can repeat it. And gentlemen, we thank you for
Speaker 9: that examptly, you know.
Speaker 8: And I think I messed up because I asked him
Speaker 8: should I start a gofund me?
Speaker 13: Yeah, take it.
Speaker 5: He didn't take mine.
Speaker 7: Coming from the heart, we can't help.
Speaker 4: But before you leave the set, I do want to ask.
Speaker 1: You have two former staffers here, Which of the two
Speaker 1: former staffers.
Speaker 4: The most.
Speaker 7: The one you like the best?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 17: He just looked, but look, look, uh, my job is
Speaker 17: to train another hundred people.
Speaker 5: And look when somebody comes and.
Speaker 17: Complained to me about how hard Angela is on them,
Speaker 17: I know Angela is doing a job.
Speaker 5: Right When they say that Derek that you know, I
Speaker 5: don't understand. I can't talk to Derek. He did.
Speaker 17: Derek's doing his job, so I judge them by the
Speaker 17: people who come to me complaining about if nobody's complaining that,
Speaker 17: that's right, and we have a lot to do, but
Speaker 17: our charge for this audience. We now have people in
Speaker 17: positions who can help us make a difference, and somehow
Speaker 17: they take the coloration and character of the enemy. And
Speaker 17: so we now find ourselves button the heads with people
Speaker 17: who look like us, trying to convince them that it's
Speaker 17: all right to do business with people who look like you.
Speaker 17: Now we would never say do business with someone that's
Speaker 17: not qualified, but the most of the people you're doing
Speaker 17: business with you don't even know. One of the things
Speaker 17: I'm doing now is mentoring people who are new mayors
Speaker 17: in cities. I was a mayor in the seventies, and
Speaker 17: I said, especially when those mayors have either been congress
Speaker 17: people or something like that. I said, Now, when you
Speaker 17: win that office, uh, and this consultant comes up who've
Speaker 17: been representing that city that you've been the congress person
Speaker 17: and you never met them.
Speaker 5: Problem, run them off.
Speaker 17: Run them off if they didn't see the value of
Speaker 17: you when you were in this other position. When you
Speaker 17: hear now, yeah, yeah, if you want to watch out,
Speaker 17: they'll go and bring somebody who looks like you that
Speaker 17: you don't even know. They're not going to even give
Speaker 17: you the respect of saying, look, I'm looking for somebody.
Speaker 5: Send me some people you might know. They'll go pick
Speaker 5: Joe blow off the street, put put a suit on him.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yes, yeah, Congressman, we know, we know you
Speaker 1: and Derek are both super busy.
Speaker 4: We want to thank you guys so much. Appreciate finest Congressman.
Speaker 4: We appreciate, we love, thank you.
Speaker 1: We are being joined right now by Democratic Senator Race.
Speaker 1: We're being joined right now by Democratic Senator Corey Booker
Speaker 1: from New Jersey. He was one of three senators black
Speaker 1: senators in the upper chamber of the House during Vice
Speaker 1: President President elect Kamala Harris's tenure in the senior Senator.
Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you. Thank you so much
Speaker 4: for taking I.
Speaker 7: Am thrilled to be here.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: We are home.
Speaker 18: I feel I would just hang out with you guys
Speaker 18: if there weren't thousands of people watching.
Speaker 7: I know you got to run quickly. We just grabbed
Speaker 7: you off the street real quick.
Speaker 8: If you could tell Kamala Harris what we need to
Speaker 8: do over the next four days to elicit that hope
Speaker 8: that we know reverberates within you and get people turned
Speaker 8: out to vote.
Speaker 7: What you're telling her.
Speaker 18: I want to tell people the truth right now, Kamala
Speaker 18: Harris is next level, exceptional, extraordinary. I got a chance
Speaker 18: to serve for word. I'm not worried about her. The
Speaker 18: thing that's most exciting to me right now and I'm
Speaker 18: telling you right now, all of us maybe a year
Speaker 18: or two old to really understand this, what is happening
Speaker 18: with young people in America who many of them were
Speaker 18: maybe four.
Speaker 12: Or five, six, seven years old in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 18: They are now equipped with tools and technology we never
Speaker 18: even dreamed of.
Speaker 12: They are driving this campaign.
Speaker 18: This will be the first true millennial gen Z election
Speaker 18: of our lifetime because they are making her viral, They
Speaker 18: are elevating her and creating enthusiasm, and so I just
Speaker 18: want to say to the young people, you will decide
Speaker 18: the outcome of this election. I know that we have
Speaker 18: older voters and voting at high percentages and the like.
Speaker 18: But the hype, the energy, the excitement, the funk, the groove,
Speaker 18: the things that I think bring real soul to a campaign.
Speaker 18: I think that's coming from the top, but it's really
Speaker 18: being sourced from a new generation of young people who,
Speaker 18: for the first election in their lifetime, are really ascending.
Speaker 3: Senator Booger is always so good to see you. We
Speaker 3: were told you had about five seconds.
Speaker 1: So what an exciting time? Only amazing people walking by, Angela.
Speaker 1: What was it like for you having your former boss
Speaker 1: on sets?
Speaker 4: You let me tell you.
Speaker 3: So I get to serve on the CBC Institute board
Speaker 3: with Congressman times and and with Derek actually, so it's
Speaker 3: always a good time. And so I knew he would
Speaker 3: be excited t if you got right to the thing
Speaker 3: that he both loves and hates, and so I knew.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, she got him on a roll, baby,
Speaker 3: And I love to see him like that because people
Speaker 3: normally see BGT so reserved. So to hear him like
Speaker 3: in his comforta and you could see he was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: we're gonna post up here on a.
Speaker 4: Board, let's go. So we love that.
Speaker 3: We it's also a pleasure who talked already about but Caari.
Speaker 4: And a guest host with us.
Speaker 3: We're doing a joint podcast today with the Bacari Sellers Podcast,
Speaker 3: and right now we're walking at Congressman Jamal Bowman.
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 7: You got to stop doing. You gotta stop doing before
Speaker 7: you put your shirt on.
Speaker 12: Okay, and then he got that got that medium.
Speaker 3: He's literally joining.
Speaker 8: You.
Speaker 11: I'm just happy, Congressman.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, congress Yeah, we are so happy to have
Speaker 4: you with We don't call you congressman as long as
Speaker 4: you in the House of.
Speaker 9: Congressman until he runs for Senate.
Speaker 4: I do want to just say thank you. I know
Speaker 4: you're busy, and and thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: I do just want to say a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about your background, but you are
Speaker 1: a pH d. You have worked in education, you are
Speaker 1: married to an educator, and you know sadly you lost
Speaker 1: your congressional bid. We talked about it on our show,
Speaker 1: but your background kind of got lost in that narrative.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious, because you know, we're here at another
Speaker 1: historic Democratic national convention. There are protests out that were
Speaker 1: connected to a lot of the issues why some arguably
Speaker 1: why you may have lost your district. What would you
Speaker 1: like to say to the Native Land Pod audience today,
Speaker 1: First of all.
Speaker 5: Peace and love to you all. Really good to be
Speaker 5: here with you.
Speaker 19: I think this is the first time Angela has interviewed
Speaker 19: me on any platform. So great to be with Angela
Speaker 19: Baccari brother, Andrew, you.
Speaker 5: And I go way back. Yes, well, good to be
Speaker 5: with you all.
Speaker 19: And yes, education for twenty years before running for Congress,
Speaker 19: teacher guidance counselor, middle school principal for ten years now.
Speaker 5: The PhD ed d in education leadership.
Speaker 19: Special education circles.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I ran because of my kids.
Speaker 19: I governed for the kids and families who have been
Speaker 19: marginalized and least loss and left behind. It was a
Speaker 19: great time in Congress. The work will continue for the
Speaker 19: rest of my life. We all gonna fight for justice
Speaker 19: no matter what. And yeah, regarding the protests, you know,
Speaker 19: we're going to continue to screen free Palestine. We're going
Speaker 19: to continue to talk about a foreign policy that's rooted
Speaker 19: in diplomacy and peace and self determination for all people,
Speaker 19: no matter what. And the work continues from the Bronx
Speaker 19: to Mount Vernon to you know, Gaza, We're gonna keep
Speaker 19: doing the work.
Speaker 8: We ask you the personal question because one of the
Speaker 8: things that Andrew had to go through, I guess what
Speaker 8: year was that? Andrew twenty eighteen year raised twenty eighteen
Speaker 8: in twenty eighteen he went through yesterday. In twenty fourteen,
Speaker 8: I had to go through it. I ran for lieutenant governor,
Speaker 8: gave up my state house seat, Andrew gave up his
Speaker 8: mayoral seed and ran and wasn't successful. We tried to
Speaker 8: trip away at the glass and now you're in this
Speaker 8: same phase. It kind of feels like you're in the
Speaker 8: wilderness for a minute because you've you've been attached to
Speaker 8: something thing for so long. But tell tell people who
Speaker 8: have not been there, you know, because a lot of
Speaker 8: times they see politicians win or lose and they don't
Speaker 8: really know what it feels like to go through that
Speaker 8: when you're not on that high of winning.
Speaker 7: And what are you doing to help.
Speaker 8: Figure out what the next step is and how are
Speaker 8: you getting there? What's up, brother Ford, to determine, to
Speaker 8: determine what's next for you.
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 19: First and foremost, rest, pray, meditate, spend time with my
Speaker 19: family first and foremost. That's what I did for the
Speaker 19: first few weeks after the race. Races are exhausting, as
Speaker 19: we all know, exhausting, So just resting and spend time
Speaker 19: with my family.
Speaker 9: Especially when they spend time calling you something you're not well.
Speaker 19: You are not more money spent against me than any
Speaker 19: congressional race in history, And so the ads were constant,
Speaker 19: the mailers were constant to tell it was really really crazy.
Speaker 5: So first and foremost rests.
Speaker 19: Secondly, quite honestly, I feel a same of liberation after
Speaker 19: this loss, because it's not really you know, every loss
Speaker 19: is a learning experience, and I learned a lot in
Speaker 19: Congress for four years. I still have deep, great relationships
Speaker 19: in Congress. I'm going to continue to have those relationships.
Speaker 19: But you can have impact and do good work outside
Speaker 19: of Congress, and in Congress sometimes you know, I'm a
Speaker 19: little rough around the edges, so I would get myself
Speaker 19: in trouble every now and then in Congress. Now I
Speaker 19: feel like, Okay, I'm a private citizen who's still going
Speaker 19: to do everything I can to serve the people of
Speaker 19: my district or around the country and around the world.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you, Speaking of around the world, one
Speaker 3: of the things that Congressman Timpson just talked about when
Speaker 3: he was on is that in his.
Speaker 4: District, the issue of Israel Palestine is like.
Speaker 3: A number twenty because folks are just fifteen again, twenty
Speaker 3: out of fifteen. Okay, all right, So But my point
Speaker 3: is that he was saying that they are just on
Speaker 3: kitchen table issues and survival themselves. What do you say
Speaker 3: to folks who have taking this on as issue number one,
Speaker 3: right and the folks who are seeing this huge gap
Speaker 3: of it being number twenty out of fifteen, how do
Speaker 3: we close that gap? Because there is so many similarities
Speaker 3: between these causes of oppression and fighting against it for liberation.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it speaks to the diversity of our
Speaker 19: country and the diversity of our district.
Speaker 5: Like, depending where you are, it may not be, it
Speaker 5: may not even be on the radar.
Speaker 19: At the same time, in my district, it was very
Speaker 19: heavily on the radar, particularly on the other side in
Speaker 19: terms of when you look at the majority of Americans,
Speaker 19: the majority of American support a permanent ceasefire, but most
Speaker 19: some people, most people in my DISTRICTI vote against me,
Speaker 19: do not support that. And so it was a top
Speaker 19: issue in my district for the kitchen table issue.
Speaker 5: People in my district.
Speaker 19: The conversation around why are we saying spending four billion
Speaker 19: dollars a year to support the killing of women and
Speaker 19: children and civilians in Gaza when I'm struggling to pay
Speaker 19: my rant. I'm struggling to pay my mortgage, I'm struggling
Speaker 19: to for childcare, I'm struggling to pay my utilities, I'm
Speaker 19: struggling to afford my day to day existence, and we're
Speaker 19: spending billions overseas to support war. So that's one way
Speaker 19: to bridge the gap. Secondly, and you know, we could
Speaker 19: debate this in different settings. Many people see our support
Speaker 19: of the state of Israel and the way Benjamin and
Speaker 19: Yahoo particular is behaving as supporting white supremacy. Yes, and
Speaker 19: that white supremacy is oppressive to black and brown people
Speaker 19: here all the time, whether you look at a Project
Speaker 19: twenty twenty five or even some of the Democrats policies
Speaker 19: historically tough on crime policies.
Speaker 5: White supremacy impacts us.
Speaker 19: All impacts us in the justice system or injustice system
Speaker 19: and the healthcare system, the education system and housing, and
Speaker 19: it impacts us in our foreign policy.
Speaker 5: So those are a couple of ways we bridge the
Speaker 5: gap in our district.
Speaker 4: I love that through line.
Speaker 1: I think that makes so much sense, given though that
Speaker 1: there are you know, a significant amount of young people,
Speaker 1: especially who are protesting and pleading with Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Our President elect, I speak it into existence. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: given that there are people though, who are frustrated by
Speaker 1: the current administration's policy, President Biden, on President Biden's watch,
Speaker 1: the amount of fiscal support that has been given to Israel.
Speaker 1: What would you say to those young people, which I
Speaker 1: think is what Angela was alluding to, for those people
Speaker 1: who are making it their central issue, what is your
Speaker 1: piece of advice? Because it's not going to be better
Speaker 1: under a president Donald Trump, No, it's not. Can they
Speaker 1: continue to be heard? I guess, pressure but also support
Speaker 1: this president because honestly, it's starting to feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the on the Palace Indian side, black people are
Speaker 1: supporting white supremacy is like time out. Don't let the
Speaker 1: old pressor our community.
Speaker 19: That's that's that's one of the insidious aspects of white
Speaker 19: supremacy is constant and conquer. It's very challenging because I've
Speaker 19: met Palestinians who have lost twenty thirty, forty fifty members
Speaker 19: of their family right in Gaza because they all live together.
Speaker 19: So you bomb a building, you're killing generations of people.
Speaker 19: So it's going to remain a top issue for the
Speaker 19: Palasainian community. It's going to remain a top issue by
Speaker 19: extension for the Muslim community and for the Arab community
Speaker 19: and for Middle Eastern communities, and so continue to speak
Speaker 19: up in protest as what our country is founded upon.
Speaker 19: But you also got to understand that when we talk
Speaker 19: about the fight against white supremacy, black people have always
Speaker 19: been at the forefront of that fight, and we will continue.
Speaker 19: Look at this, brother here, answer question seriously, and.
Speaker 4: You come up here.
Speaker 7: Let me just tell you you ain't much flavor.
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Speaker 4: Can you hook us up? Roland's like, say less, he
Speaker 4: let us borrow.
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Speaker 4: Can I just say, though this Roland Martin, they still
Speaker 4: interview before no interview with.
Speaker 1: Bro I just want while we have you, though, I
Speaker 1: do want to seriously thank you because you know you
Speaker 1: and I as a journalist, how how important it is
Speaker 1: to not only have black faces but black voices, and
Speaker 1: the Black Star Network you carry things that are not carried,
Speaker 1: you know, Vice President Kamala Harris held a rally three
Speaker 1: million people watched online and the major networks did not
Speaker 1: carry her.
Speaker 4: There are so many things that happened, every single one.
Speaker 9: Yes, even though emphasis on HBCUs.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're working HBCUs your endless love for Alpha Phi
Speaker 1: Alpha Fraternity Incorporated.
Speaker 4: Tell your frat brother stop breaking my hand. He's supposed
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 5: I want to see you.
Speaker 1: Will see you wednesday, Governor, We'll see you wednesday. But bro,
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for because you are
Speaker 1: integral to the community. And so if you don't watch
Speaker 1: Black Star Network, well I'm tell you.
Speaker 20: I'm tell you black out coverages being uh anytime somebody
Speaker 20: black come on the stage, I'm like, okay, you about
Speaker 20: to stop talking.
Speaker 7: Back to the stage. So, speaking of speaking of witch
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris on stage right.
Speaker 4: Now, she's not right now, you will see the mayor
Speaker 4: of Chicago.
Speaker 7: No, she is on stage.
Speaker 4: She's on stage seeing different Yours.
Speaker 12: Is probably delayed, Yeah, because you watching it on Black
Speaker 12: Star Network.
Speaker 13: Over here.
Speaker 8: Is a hater.
Speaker 12: But he's also not technically savvy.
Speaker 20: Not because there's a there's a live feed here the
Speaker 20: ninety Center and if you're streaming it there's a delay. Yeah,
Speaker 20: that's somebody who's too has a flip phone.
Speaker 4: Yes, he said he got boost mobile.
Speaker 12: All you can text the car is okay.
Speaker 9: This conversation.
Speaker 4: You are subterranean.
Speaker 9: You are a subterranean over here.
Speaker 1: Well, if if you are tuning into US, I do
Speaker 1: want to say Roland is right. Vice President Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: is taking the stage right now. It looks like she
Speaker 1: seems to be welcoming people to the convention. It looks
Speaker 1: like you may have just shouted out the second gentleman
Speaker 1: soon to be the first gentleman, Doug m.
Speaker 4: Hoff.
Speaker 1: Camera's pan to him. This is not her keynote speech,
Speaker 1: which we will hear of course Thursday, and please tune
Speaker 1: in a Native Land pod live. We will be live
Speaker 1: on Thursday right before she speaks, so we'll be talking
Speaker 1: about all the primetime speakers. But yes, she is speaking
Speaker 1: right now, and tune in tomorrow because we will talk
Speaker 1: about some of her remarks.
Speaker 6: And it isn't typical, uh, Tiffany, for the for the
Speaker 6: presidential nominee to be here this early, But I think
Speaker 6: this is I think this is partly an o to
Speaker 6: her work in partnership with Joe Biden.
Speaker 9: President Joe Biden will be the keynote speaker.
Speaker 1: Of her unique position as his vice president, but who
Speaker 1: he's passing the tords to, but also as the soon
Speaker 1: to be nominee officially the nominee for the Democratic National Convention.
Speaker 20: And let me let me say what you talk about,
Speaker 20: and I won't say ego less, but to be a
Speaker 20: sitting president come on and to say I'll speak on
Speaker 20: Monday and I'm gonna fly to Keller from and you
Speaker 20: have the convention. Uh that listen, we we know President's
Speaker 20: got egos huge. He could have said, Yo, I'm speaking
Speaker 20: on Wednesday. No, he said I'll do Monday, and then.
Speaker 6: You have way that's that's huge where it was huge, brother,
Speaker 6: And I think you'd agree for the man to be
Speaker 6: the most powerful leader of the free world so far
Speaker 6: as we know it, and believe he could run and win,
Speaker 6: and to step back and say I don't want that fight.
Speaker 6: Our country doesn't need that fight right now, I said earlier,
Speaker 6: and I hope it will be true this evening. The
Speaker 6: man out of get so much of an ovation this
Speaker 6: evening that there's not time for his remarks because our
Speaker 6: appreciation runs that deep for the sacrifice that he's made,
Speaker 6: not just at this moment but over the arc of
Speaker 6: his uh uh political career. Jamal, I'm curious if you
Speaker 6: have reflections on on on on the believe.
Speaker 20: I'm going to the floor. Y'all got Omega coming up.
Speaker 20: That's a big step down from Alfha. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Appreciation appreciated.
Speaker 20: And Chris Chris Berry at I heart, I'm gonna see
Speaker 20: you the envoys.
Speaker 4: That actually is.
Speaker 3: Warranted, Jami, before you chime in here, I know this
Speaker 3: is something that's there to get down, down, stop it,
Speaker 3: shut up. That's near and dear to your heart. And
Speaker 3: that is the theme of this convention today is for
Speaker 3: the people. We know, of course that was Kamala Harris's
Speaker 3: a campaign slogan going into twenty twenty, but it's for
Speaker 3: the people for our future is a full campaign theme.
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to talk about that just briefly.
Speaker 3: Because we're seeing a lot of labor leaders, civil rights
Speaker 3: leaders who are coming up today.
Speaker 4: They're showing that huge chant that this party is supposed
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 3: And again we know that there's still protests on the outside,
Speaker 3: but even those voices, the dissension is welcome.
Speaker 19: It's all welcome. And if we are for the people,
Speaker 19: we have to be for all the people, and we
Speaker 19: have to be for equity, and we have to be
Speaker 19: for justice in all its forms. And for me to me,
Speaker 19: that means we have to be for universal childcare, universal
Speaker 19: pre K, paid leave for all.
Speaker 5: Finally, we're one of the only developed nations that does
Speaker 5: not I have paid leave.
Speaker 19: We have to make sure we're investing in education, education, education, education,
Speaker 19: and can we please raise the damn federal minimum wage?
Speaker 4: About that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, seven five and hour.
Speaker 19: Was still And just to piggyback on that and talk
Speaker 19: a little bit about President Biden. So my first two
Speaker 19: years in Congress, we had control of the House and
Speaker 19: the Senate, and I felt like.
Speaker 5: We was rocking and rolling.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 19: We was getting things done in the American Rescue Plan,
Speaker 19: the Chips and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, the
Speaker 19: Safer Communities Act, the Bipartis of Infrastructure Bill. We were
Speaker 19: getting things done and it was incredibly active and incredibly inspiring.
Speaker 19: Two years later, Republicans come in take control and we
Speaker 19: literally stopped doing the people's work. And so when we
Speaker 19: talk about contrasts, to me, there's no conversation Republicans want
Speaker 19: to shut down the federal government.
Speaker 5: They want to end the Department of Education, they want.
Speaker 19: To defund health and Human Services. Human services. Democrats were
Speaker 19: governing for the people. We just have to continue that.
Speaker 19: And when President Kamala gets in and we have to
Speaker 19: support her on the outside by holding members of Congress,
Speaker 19: the House is centered accountable to push a very aggressive
Speaker 19: agenda forward because we need transformation right now.
Speaker 5: We do, we do.
Speaker 4: While we speaking of transformation real quick, Macory, I do
Speaker 4: just want to.
Speaker 7: Welcome let me introduce.
Speaker 5: Be taking all a you.
Speaker 7: Like this Saturday mornings.
Speaker 12: Like I'm Andrew. My god, you guys don't be welcome
Speaker 12: back to the show.
Speaker 8: A young man from Morehouse College who is just exceptional
Speaker 8: in the amazing city of Montgomery. I love how we
Speaker 8: have the balance on this show. We have some people
Speaker 8: from the big city of New York, the brons et
Speaker 8: cetera boogie down, and we also have people like Benny
Speaker 8: Thompson and Darry Johnson. We now have the mayor of
Speaker 8: the amazing city of Montgomery, who is it's growing leaps
Speaker 8: and bounds. Just want to re election, not that long ago.
Speaker 11: Show.
Speaker 5: Congratulations to the show.
Speaker 8: Yeah no, they talk about this environment because you you've
Speaker 8: kind of grow we it's amazing. We were talking to
Speaker 8: uh Maya Baraka, the next governor of New Jersey, and
Speaker 8: he grew up in it, and I kind of grew
Speaker 8: up in it as well, and you definitely grew up
Speaker 8: in it. How does it feel to kind of grow
Speaker 8: up on your parents' knees seeing all of these heroes
Speaker 8: and icons and then coming to something like this where
Speaker 8: you celebrate Jesse, you celebrate Fanny lou Hamer, you celebrate
Speaker 8: now Kamala Harris still making history.
Speaker 7: What that feels like for you?
Speaker 21: Man?
Speaker 11: It's amazing. First, I want to thank everybody.
Speaker 21: Thank y'all for all the great work that you do
Speaker 21: on behalf of the African American Mayors Association, all five
Speaker 21: hundred plus African American mayors across the country from Seattle
Speaker 21: your dad, all the way to Savannah.
Speaker 11: We got Mayor's.
Speaker 21: Represent and all the D nine and all the organizations,
Speaker 21: all that stuff, all those things, and so you know,
Speaker 21: I think when you come here and you think back
Speaker 21: to Reverend Jackson in eighty four and we sit here
Speaker 21: in twenty twenty four, and you think about his speech
Speaker 21: and his run and all the things that happened since then.
Speaker 21: It is just emotional. I mean, I can't describe it.
Speaker 21: I remember being here in ninety six. I'll date myself
Speaker 21: when Clinton was running for a re election and Jesse Jr.
Speaker 21: You know, they were the new Jackson the block, all
Speaker 21: those guys, you know, and so you know, thinking about
Speaker 21: this energy that we have here is just you know,
Speaker 21: I almost want to say, it's oh eightish if I
Speaker 21: can say that, there's just a level of enthusiasm and
Speaker 21: energy that has just changed.
Speaker 11: And that is no disrespect too.
Speaker 21: I think has been one of the most transformational presidents
Speaker 21: in the last seventy five years. In President Joe Biden
Speaker 21: is just a shifting energy, shifting optimism, and I certainly
Speaker 21: think when you consider the history and the legacy that's
Speaker 21: tied to Chicago and all the things that have come
Speaker 21: to pass now with the nomination of Vice President Kamala Harris,
Speaker 21: it's just it feels right.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just a synergy that that's with this.
Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge, mister Mayor. We recently celebrated a
Speaker 1: holiday out of Montgomery, Alabama. Some of you may refer
Speaker 1: to it as August tenth or fade in the water.
Speaker 11: But what.
Speaker 4: An honor it is to be sitting with you as
Speaker 4: a new monuments.
Speaker 21: Absolutely absolutely, we talked about symbols, we talked about changing
Speaker 21: the city seal.
Speaker 11: Everything has just been.
Speaker 4: White folding chair.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 21: I support it that the chair has just taken on
Speaker 21: a life. I mean, you know what, and let me
Speaker 21: say this and the mayor, I can't can relate to this.
Speaker 21: I just left there back to school event. I mean,
Speaker 21: it wasn't thirty minutes.
Speaker 7: Are you get to call.
Speaker 12: Talking about talking about I just left thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 5: He swam across that I was here.
Speaker 11: I'm like, get him on our fire and rescue.
Speaker 4: He used to be emergency show.
Speaker 21: Got him before Alabama and Alren signs him to a
Speaker 21: verbal committment because I'm like, somebody who can swim across
Speaker 21: that river and get up.
Speaker 11: And still do some work.
Speaker 4: Maybe he should have represented us in the Olympics reps. Yes,
Speaker 4: he was the black aquaman. Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 9: Just texted me to say, what's up.
Speaker 5: I've been here.
Speaker 7: I've been here twenty minutes and.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 4: From Andrews.
Speaker 8: Let me ask you a question real quick, because this
Speaker 8: is this is what bothers me because we're Florida. Different Florida,
Speaker 8: like three states shut out in one you got like
Speaker 8: which is like at South Alabama until you got the
Speaker 8: middle of it and.
Speaker 9: Then you got like you got the four states.
Speaker 8: But go ahead, But we are in the south. So
Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask you a tough question. What does the
Speaker 8: mayor of Montgomery do next? Oh man, this was in
Speaker 8: South Carolina, Alabama.
Speaker 4: He's the best question.
Speaker 12: As money didn't give the governor.
Speaker 7: We're not We're not about to sit here and be
Speaker 7: a martyr. That's what.
Speaker 8: Home and run against Lady Graham to get beat by
Speaker 8: twenty for Yalla laughing at me.
Speaker 4: You've been breaking barriers a long time. I laugh at you.
Speaker 21: You know, listen, listen, this brother was what was doing
Speaker 21: the way back when the twin two. You're like, who
Speaker 21: the hell's twenty two runnings for state rep?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 11: You know who got those kind of chops more?
Speaker 21: But you know, I think when you're in states like ours,
Speaker 21: where it's Alabama or Louisiana, Arkansas, we all talk about
Speaker 21: that as mayors, like you know, where can you give
Speaker 21: and where can you continue to serve?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 21: You know, is a tie coming to US next. Can
Speaker 21: we be the next Georgia? Can we be that next
Speaker 21: purple state? And I mean I think the answer is
Speaker 21: is yet to be seen. What I hope we get
Speaker 21: from this election is we get a movement, not a moment,
Speaker 21: of young people and working class people who really have
Speaker 21: not been voting for their interest in my opinion, in
Speaker 21: parts of the South, to take a look at what
Speaker 21: Vice President has and what Governor wall is really an offering,
Speaker 21: and what my goal is to make sure they see
Speaker 21: the difference when you get beyond the personality, when you
Speaker 21: get beyond just the cult of Trump, and when you
Speaker 21: get beyond all of those things, and you look at
Speaker 21: who's looking out for you and who's really working for
Speaker 21: the people. So hopefully that opens up opportunities, whether that
Speaker 21: be at a statewide, dominatorial level, whether to be at
Speaker 21: a centator's level, or whatever it may be, to take
Speaker 21: a look at Andrew what you did, I mean, and
Speaker 21: to say, okay, this is how we do it.
Speaker 11: But I tell people this all the time who come
Speaker 11: for the civil rights trailer.
Speaker 21: I say, look, you would have no doctor King, you
Speaker 21: would have no Ralph Abernatty without money, without resources.
Speaker 11: So anything you want us to do is.
Speaker 21: Gonna take investment, It's gonna take time. War Knock and
Speaker 21: Abrams and everybody else showed us that in Georgia, you
Speaker 21: got to invest in the South. I mean, we've got
Speaker 21: the We've got the foundation. Mississippi is probably the one
Speaker 21: that's really.
Speaker 12: Got the highest be that your Carolina, be that only twenty.
Speaker 7: Two and it's purple.
Speaker 6: Florida's is thirteen thirteen thirteen percent of the population percent
Speaker 6: of the population of the state is black. And that's
Speaker 6: why I think that South how much is brown unfortunately brown,
Speaker 6: and Florida doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 9: So it's a complicated narrative.
Speaker 5: But we're not.
Speaker 6: We as black elected officials who in many cases aren't
Speaker 6: necessarily representing majority black constituencies, not overwhelming majority of black constituencies,
Speaker 6: have the ability to, I think, reach places and cause
Speaker 6: people to think beyond what they're the recesses of their
Speaker 6: minds are telling them are their biases against us. And
Speaker 6: I think part of the charge Jamal, you do this
Speaker 6: where you are, I know, Bakari Mayor, you have to
Speaker 6: move people beyond what is in what feels a little
Speaker 6: uncomfortable for them so that they can see you in
Speaker 6: your humanity, and that when I make education good for
Speaker 6: my kids, I make it good for yours. When the
Speaker 6: streets are safe for my kids to walk in, play in, so.
Speaker 9: Are they for yours. So the priorities are so different.
Speaker 6: Doctor King tried to help us find common calls with
Speaker 6: each other, across race barriers and even across economic ones,
Speaker 6: to see what we share in common. And I just think,
Speaker 6: as we sit here in Chicago, so many, so many
Speaker 6: people have forgotten these areas of common calls, have thrown
Speaker 6: them to the wind. And I think it's incumbent upon
Speaker 6: us our generation. Are you know this, this generation of
Speaker 6: young people? I think to find a third way that
Speaker 6: leads us back into positions of leadership, not for the
Speaker 6: purposes of us making history and and and climbing new barriers,
Speaker 6: but for the case of delivering something to people that
Speaker 6: has felt aloof like unachievement.
Speaker 7: There is one There is one.
Speaker 8: There is one person who hones in on that message
Speaker 8: better than most who I actually put in the same
Speaker 8: category as a Ralph David Abernathy or doctor King or
Speaker 8: Judy Richardson or those people who were talking about the
Speaker 8: same plight that you're talking about, and that's somebody we
Speaker 8: don't acknowledge enough, but that's the Reverend doctor William Barber.
Speaker 9: To try to get in.
Speaker 8: That message of what of what how poverty can really
Speaker 8: really draw some similarities. The funny part is in South
Speaker 8: Carolina and Denmark, my dad used to tell the story
Speaker 8: about the couple who would go to the grocery store
Speaker 8: on their tractor, and they would ride on their tractor
Speaker 8: and they were they were just dirt poor, but there
Speaker 8: there was some level of comfort they felt in just
Speaker 8: being white, that they still felt as if they were
Speaker 8: better than you, although they literally rode to the grocery
Speaker 8: store on their tractor. And so I think that in
Speaker 8: what you know, I knocked on that door when I
Speaker 8: was running for office because the naivete or the youthful exuberance,
Speaker 8: or where those two things meet, had you believing that
Speaker 8: you could convince somebody, And maybe you do. You never know,
Speaker 8: don't know how people vote, but that you you know
Speaker 8: how their grandparents get healthcare, or how their children get
Speaker 8: their prescription drugs or get educated, or if they can
Speaker 8: make ten dollars an hour, you can meet people where
Speaker 8: they are. And I think that's a message we still
Speaker 8: have to hone in on and it's one that resonates respectfully,
Speaker 8: particularly in the South, because that's what I know.
Speaker 5: I got a question for the mayor. Yeah, is that okay?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Before and then we know we can't hold y'all too
Speaker 3: long and we have to get to we have another
Speaker 3: guest coming, so we want to make sure that we
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 19: Yes, So, mister mayor, I've only been in Congress four years,
Speaker 19: almost three and a half years, and I'm very interested
Speaker 19: in the local implementation of federal policy.
Speaker 5: So when we pass a piece of legislation and we.
Speaker 19: Appropriate dollars to local mayors, can you speak a little
Speaker 19: bit about one, how you make decisions in terms of
Speaker 19: how that money is spent and invested Number one, But
Speaker 19: then also speak to the collaboration that's necessary or lack thereof,
Speaker 19: with the county that you're in, with the state that
Speaker 19: you're in.
Speaker 5: Et cetera.
Speaker 19: Correct, right, Because in my district, there's been a lot
Speaker 19: of frustration around Okay, we just allocated X millions or
Speaker 19: billions of dollars, why is it not getting to the
Speaker 19: black and brown folks in my district and the way
Speaker 19: that it needs to.
Speaker 5: Can you speak a.
Speaker 21: Little bit to that yeah, if it's not getting to
Speaker 21: the black and brown folks and the people who need
Speaker 21: it is because you need the leadership that values them,
Speaker 21: and you need the leadership that is prioritizing. And one
Speaker 21: of the things that we highlight about President Biden and
Speaker 21: Vice President Harris is that with the Arbor dollars, they
Speaker 21: came straight to the.
Speaker 11: County and straight into the cities.
Speaker 21: So a lot of us that are in conservative led states,
Speaker 21: with legislation, we would have never gotten that money to
Speaker 21: community violence intervention programs, hospital intervention programs, education after school programs,
Speaker 21: when you think of small business support, we would have
Speaker 21: never gotten that money directly where it's needed. And we
Speaker 21: had pushback from legislative forces, but the money was coming
Speaker 21: to the county. Even talking with Sylvester Attorney in Houston,
Speaker 21: I was made somebody who had been in the legislature
Speaker 21: then served as a major city mayor was having the
Speaker 21: trouble he was having in a city like Houston, in
Speaker 21: a county like Harris County, right Texas. But when you
Speaker 21: think about what this administration was allowed us to do.
Speaker 21: It allowed us to have the autonomy and the control
Speaker 21: to prioritize those things in the hood that we knew
Speaker 21: needed to help and needed to support. If it's not
Speaker 21: getting there, it's because those elected officials don't have the
Speaker 21: chops and don't have the medal to stand up and
Speaker 21: say these communities have been left behind far too long.
Speaker 21: They get caught in the bureaucracy and the red tape,
Speaker 21: and then by the time you look at there is
Speaker 21: no tape, so they don't get any help. So what
Speaker 21: we were able to do was to say, you know what,
Speaker 21: we believe in equity. We're gonna be unapologetic in our
Speaker 21: approach to this. We know who suffered the most from COVID,
Speaker 21: we know who had the hardest impact, who's hit worse.
Speaker 21: So this is what we're gonna do. And I feel
Speaker 21: like as African American mayors in this generation in particular,
Speaker 21: coming on the heels of those that came before us,
Speaker 21: we have a responsibility, We have a debt to make
Speaker 21: sure that we are just as intentional as a Harald
Speaker 21: Washington was many many years ago and others were an
Speaker 21: assistant made of no question and assisting our communities directly
Speaker 21: and making the case you cannot assume or hope or
Speaker 21: wish or pray that that money and those funds are
Speaker 21: gonna be there in some other administration unless you make
Speaker 21: it so. And that's what we have as the chief
Speaker 21: executive officers of cities and communities.
Speaker 3: Yes, we really appreciate all you time today. It has
Speaker 3: been fantastic to be.
Speaker 4: Here with you.
Speaker 1: Can I just say real quick before he goes the
Speaker 1: This week More House students went back and there was
Speaker 1: a beautiful image of the incoming freshman standing in the rain.
Speaker 1: It looks so artistic, and you have the men walking.
Speaker 1: I gotta feeling and I just want to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: significance and importance of Morehouse in this country. And having
Speaker 1: two men the Morehouse on set real cool. We got
Speaker 1: another guest we broke up.
Speaker 21: Harrison Bryant, Jamal Harrison Brown was my new student leader,
Speaker 21: yes in my year, and he wasn't near as cool
Speaker 21: and near as as charismatic as he seems now. He
Speaker 21: was saying a whole lot different when I came. It
Speaker 21: rain on our heads even worse.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, mister Mayor and congressman. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you both. I cannot see the next guest, but Angela
Speaker 1: or Bacari, who has a better view than me, will
Speaker 1: bring up our next thing.
Speaker 22: Yes, thank you, Congress. We appreciate to you, and thank you,
Speaker 22: mister mayor, thank you so much. All right, so the
Speaker 22: mayor don't want to leave answer. Okay, we're taking a picture.
Speaker 22: They take it as selfie. You're taking a selfie.
Speaker 4: Ear well, they take a selfie. We're going to welcome
Speaker 4: on next gues.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it is Ty McMillan, who is the DNC
Speaker 3: Coalitions Director. We cannot be at a big tenth convention
Speaker 3: and not make sure that young people's voices are actually heard.
Speaker 3: LASA League is coming up. Let me just say, y'all,
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by who they chose to m see the
Speaker 3: convention floor.
Speaker 4: Yes, y'all, there's a throwbag. It's scandal and I'm just
Speaker 4: wondering how y'all feel about that. While he puts his
Speaker 4: headphones off.
Speaker 1: So after Tony Goldlin is the host of It's a Foursome.
Speaker 1: So it's Tony, you'll correct me, Tony Goldland and a Navarro.
Speaker 4: I think they're taking turns. So Carrie Washington's later this.
Speaker 8: Week, Kerry Washington's Thursday, it's Tony today, Tomorrow is uh
Speaker 8: An no Man's Wednesday.
Speaker 4: I think Oh it's a Mindy Kenny.
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, so I think it's interesting.
Speaker 8: There's a special guest on Wednesday. I heard is it
Speaker 8: going to be Beyonce noon coming?
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's the rumor.
Speaker 9: You know, he talked to her last night.
Speaker 4: She said, you text her. She said she could make it.
Speaker 7: No text, Jay, I got respect.
Speaker 3: Well, I just I'm just saying I would. We'll talk
Speaker 3: about it when Tyley is concluding with his remarks.
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm sorry, I was yelling at Chuck Sham.
Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly right into the and you guys forgive our
Speaker 3: guest co host. He has no cues anyway, Tyley talk
Speaker 3: to us about the importance of youth representation at a
Speaker 3: convention like this that is so ground breaking, so historic.
Speaker 4: Tell me what y'all got going on?
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 23: So I think you know what's exciting about this conference
Speaker 23: is that we talk about the content creators is a new,
Speaker 23: a new, a new route, and so I think meeting
Speaker 23: young people where they are, and I think, you know,
Speaker 23: the Party is leading the way in that effort, whether
Speaker 23: it's through traditional media or we understand how young fools
Speaker 23: get their information and it's through content creators, just through
Speaker 23: folks that are on TikTok and so I'm excited about
Speaker 23: that aspect of the conference.
Speaker 11: I'm excited.
Speaker 23: The vice president has the energy of young people, you know,
Speaker 23: uh and has been on the she has been leading
Speaker 23: on the issues, and I think, you know, the excitement
Speaker 23: that we have, uh, you know, we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 23: continue past this, especially as we get back to uh,
Speaker 23: you know, welcome week at schools, as we get into
Speaker 23: you know, homecomings and activities, and we're gonna keep on
Speaker 23: that momentum and continue.
Speaker 11: To you know, connect with young folks on the ground.
Speaker 15: M H.
Speaker 6: What's the biggest organizing challenge you're facing? You feel with
Speaker 6: young girls right now? What's the we we see we
Speaker 6: all think we're still young and formerly formerly you're accepting,
Speaker 6: but Cary will be there twins a little bit.
Speaker 7: Too here, right.
Speaker 9: What's the challenge?
Speaker 6: Tell us what's the biggest challenge y'all feel like you
Speaker 6: have to get over an organizing tip?
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 23: I think when when when the folks that young people
Speaker 23: get getting their information from social media, we fight a
Speaker 23: big battle of miss and this information and as we
Speaker 23: fight the bots in the comments, we fight all of
Speaker 23: that and so I think it's the fact of being
Speaker 23: able to get real and accurate information to folks, Folks
Speaker 23: to be able to have trusted sources, and folks to
Speaker 23: be able to trust their trusted sources.
Speaker 11: And I think is what we're fighting. We continue to fight.
Speaker 23: But I think, you know, we live in this time
Speaker 23: where voter education and even the basics of what what
Speaker 23: what how the government even operates. As I have conversations
Speaker 23: with folks across the country, some of them don't even
Speaker 23: know the three branches of government. They don't know they
Speaker 23: don't know the power of the vice president. They don't
Speaker 23: know the fact of the filibuster or the fact that
Speaker 23: the vice president has broke the most tides in the Senate.
Speaker 23: And so I think voter education is really big, is big,
Speaker 23: but we get that done through peer to peer influence.
Speaker 23: And I think that education is the first step, and
Speaker 23: not only connecting with folks that are within the you know,
Speaker 23: like the ecosystem of politics, but also how we connect
Speaker 23: with folks who may not have that interest. And so
Speaker 23: the importance of meeting people at the basketball court, it
Speaker 23: meeting at the brunches and meet them, you know, at
Speaker 23: these different events, whether it's music festivals, and so we
Speaker 23: have that unique perspective.
Speaker 4: But what do you say though when you meet because
Speaker 4: I'm so curious about that.
Speaker 1: I know when I see young people pop up in
Speaker 1: my feed and just when I overhear what young people
Speaker 1: are talking about who are not interested in politics and
Speaker 1: don't understand how politics impact them. Some people don't know
Speaker 1: when an election is even happening. What is the thing
Speaker 1: that you say to compel them to get involved and
Speaker 1: what wasn't that compelled you to get involved?
Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely what compelled me to get involved.
Speaker 23: I got involved in this movement when I was about
Speaker 23: thirteen years old under the leadership of Reverend now sharped
Speaker 23: in how are you?
Speaker 11: I'm twenty seven, twenty seven, now twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 11: and so no day, it's not a day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, her from both she has she's.
Speaker 4: Not doing that. She's not doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ignoring these just saying, Kylie, please continue, young
Speaker 1: young man one older than.
Speaker 7: You, better shoot your shots.
Speaker 11: Not you miss every missing.
Speaker 9: Pull up.
Speaker 5: Night night.
Speaker 1: That is not I'm listening to the only only adult
Speaker 1: many Please continue.
Speaker 3: That's a great time because AOC just got on the
Speaker 3: stage as well.
Speaker 23: For those of you all at home, Yes, but carry
Speaker 23: on till you look another fire person who continues to aspire.
Speaker 23: There you go, young young people. In addition to Miss
Speaker 23: Tiphany cross everybody loves Miss Crossing. So, like I said,
Speaker 23: I I'm a son, I'm a son of the civil
Speaker 23: rights movement, and so that got me in the work.
Speaker 23: But I think how we meet people is we make
Speaker 23: it real. We make we bring the conversations. Jackson is
Speaker 23: joining us in the middle of the conversations to them,
Speaker 23: and we make it real how it relates to them,
Speaker 23: whether it's you know, like politics is local. And I
Speaker 23: always say, you know, politics isn't the sexiest of conversations,
Speaker 23: but it's like we got to make it relatable of
Speaker 23: how it impacts them, Like we talked about the local roles.
Speaker 11: How the funding from your city council.
Speaker 23: We were talking about as we're talking about schools, and
Speaker 23: the funding is happening at your at your state, at
Speaker 23: your state houses. And so making it real and making
Speaker 23: it relatable is how is how we inaccessible inaccessible.
Speaker 1: I do want to welcome to the conversation Congressman John Jackson,
Speaker 1: the son of Jonathan.
Speaker 4: Forgive me that you don't like John.
Speaker 1: Sorry, He is the son of the great Jesse Jackson
Speaker 1: and also representing Illinois First District Illinois first District without
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 4: I didn't say no, damn s she did. I did not, anyway,
Speaker 4: hostrophe s I got. I got what you were saying.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Congress, we're a very lively bunch tonight, as you
Speaker 1: can see.
Speaker 4: But we're so started about ago.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're so honor to be joined by you this
Speaker 1: significant history this year. Bakari referenced earlier the first presidential
Speaker 1: campaign I actually remember was your father, Jesse Jackson in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, and my grandmother took me to a
Speaker 1: rally and someone said, young lady, who are you voting for?
Speaker 4: My grandma said, baby, you telling me you voted for
Speaker 4: Jesse Jackson. And that's what I said.
Speaker 1: And it just that time doesn't seem like that long ago.
Speaker 1: But here we are forty years later. Yeah, what does
Speaker 1: this convention.
Speaker 5: Mean to you?
Speaker 15: Well, thank you so much for having me on. Thank
Speaker 15: you Angela, thank you for there's Congress.
Speaker 1: So we're alive and we're being passed by Congressman Gregor York.
Speaker 11: That goes Chairman. I love you, Chairman, Meeks, you.
Speaker 1: So as we're as we're here, a lot of people
Speaker 1: are walking by and saying hello. I know you guys
Speaker 1: can't see it on the cameras, but we have a
Speaker 1: whole audience and crowd out here. But yes, I want
Speaker 1: to call you Reverend Jackson. But Congressman Jackson, tell us
Speaker 1: what this convention means to you.
Speaker 15: Well, first of all, starting with, are soon to be
Speaker 15: chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee. I have the opportunity
Speaker 15: to serve on the Foreign Affairs Committee. I met Congressman
Speaker 15: Meeks almost thirty some years ago. He ran as a
Speaker 15: Jesse Jackson Democrat out of Queens. When he became the
Speaker 15: congressman from there, it was a tremendous honor. I know,
Speaker 15: is this mine or somebody?
Speaker 5: Okay? All right?
Speaker 15: I met Congressman Meeks thirty some years ago when he
Speaker 15: ran as a as a as a delegate and then
Speaker 15: for Congress as a Jesse Jackson specifically Democrat in Queens,
Speaker 15: New York and then Angela. It's been some years now
Speaker 15: that I had met you with your great family in
Speaker 15: the Northwest, and I was like, black folks live out
Speaker 15: here as well.
Speaker 1: Family's from Louisiana but migrated to the West he was
Speaker 1: as a surrogate to his dad's campaign in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4: There's a picture when I'm.
Speaker 3: About eight and he's lean over me and kissing me
Speaker 3: on the cheek, and I got on my Jesse Jackson
Speaker 3: eighty eight shirt. We need, we need to.
Speaker 13: Angela her family.
Speaker 15: Thank you for your service and your continued spirit and
Speaker 15: civil rights and Bakari, your father, Cleve is legendary in
Speaker 15: so many ways. I don't know all the people up here,
Speaker 15: but I thank you.
Speaker 4: For your spirit. He's gonna say, I don't know what
Speaker 4: happened to you. Sorry, I had to get you back.
Speaker 15: When I was at North Carolina, A and T please please,
Speaker 15: Father please, Father would come and sit down and talk
Speaker 15: with us as students. And so this to me is
Speaker 15: more of a celebration really of civil rights. It's not
Speaker 15: into the politics. And I know it's a political convention
Speaker 15: and so forth, But forty years later, what does it
Speaker 15: mean my father's real motivation. It was a moral crusade.
Speaker 15: It wasn't a political groups said and by the vehicle.
Speaker 15: It was in empowerment. It wasn't finding a district. It
Speaker 15: was uplifting the entire network. Why would somebody run for
Speaker 15: president that's never ran for a local office. That it
Speaker 15: was about a movement, and out of that movement, it
Speaker 15: was that massive voter registration. And we have to pick
Speaker 15: that up today. And so in the spirit of Fanny
Speaker 15: lou Hamer sixty four to eighty four was his foundation.
Speaker 15: It wasn't a political move it was massive voter registration participation.
Speaker 15: And I hope that the party picks that language back up,
Speaker 15: massive voter registration. If we vote our numbers in South Carolina,
Speaker 15: we'll have a the Democratic congressional seat. We'll have another
Speaker 15: one in Louisiana, another one I've got South Carolina. We'll
Speaker 15: have another seat in Tennessee, and a first black to
Speaker 15: have a seat in Arkansas. We still haven't had an
Speaker 15: African American representative in the state of Arkansas.
Speaker 4: Wow, a black mayor though. Mayor Frank Fresh.
Speaker 8: One of the questions I wanted to ask you, is
Speaker 8: you know Uncle Jesse as we called him in our household,
Speaker 8: because little Jesse used to come over and babysit my
Speaker 8: brother and sister in Greensboro and all of those things.
Speaker 8: In his campaign in eighty four and eighty eight, he
Speaker 8: just cultivated so many souls and personalities that went on
Speaker 8: to do great things. My father was a Southern regional
Speaker 8: field direct and ended up hiring a young lady named
Speaker 8: Donna Brazil on that race. You have Mignon Moore, you
Speaker 8: have all of these people. Talk about the impact of
Speaker 8: your father on the modern day Democratic Party because just
Speaker 8: a lot of people don't even know that his fingerprints
Speaker 8: are all over everything that we're doing right now.
Speaker 7: That's right.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 15: So if you look at Mignon Moore on her for
Speaker 15: over forty years. This is my tenth Democratic Convention. Mignon
Speaker 15: Morris from Chicago. She worked in the organization of Rainbow Push.
Speaker 15: She comes out of eighty four. Now she's the chair
Speaker 15: of the Democratic Invention in the state of Illinois. When
Speaker 15: you look at donnal Brazil, she went on to become
Speaker 15: the chair of the Al Gore for President. She came
Speaker 15: out of the eighty eight campaign as well. When you
Speaker 15: look at Dave Dinkins, after the massive voter registration drive,
Speaker 15: he became the first African American mayor of New York City.
Speaker 15: That's true of Doug Wilder, the first African American governor
Speaker 15: out of Virginia, David Wellington, the first African American mayor
Speaker 15: of a non black city, majority white city.
Speaker 5: In Denver, Colorado. And it can go on and on.
Speaker 15: And when I hear President Barack Obama says that he
Speaker 15: was inspired when he was in law school and when
Speaker 15: Vice President Kamala Harris was a student at Howard University,
Speaker 15: she was protesting in nineteen eighty six for free South Africa.
Speaker 15: And she gives my father credit for her inspiration. And
Speaker 15: I have to give myself. I wouldn't be here today, uh,
Speaker 15: thelone being interested in politics and public office. And I
Speaker 15: wouldn't say politics, but public office us being able to
Speaker 15: assert ourselves in government. Uh, to live off the will
Speaker 15: of our people and our desire.
Speaker 8: What advice you got for this young man senter right
Speaker 8: here to my right, who is running this youth organization
Speaker 8: in our in our d n C. That is going
Speaker 8: to probably be the reason that Kamala Harris wins this race?
Speaker 8: Young voters, What do you have to say to him
Speaker 8: about organizing those young minds in a way that you
Speaker 8: know so well because you grew up in it.
Speaker 11: I'm a AGGI to.
Speaker 9: I knew there was something brilliant about you, young man.
Speaker 7: He can't get in the morning.
Speaker 12: Uplift.
Speaker 7: We will get you an honor.
Speaker 11: What's amazing.
Speaker 23: I decided to go to North Carolina A and C
Speaker 23: because of Reverend Jesse Jackson. It was you know, like
Speaker 23: I said, I grew up under the leadership of Revenue Sharpton,
Speaker 23: who also grew up under the leadership of Reverend Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 23: And I'm like, I've always been around the family, and
Speaker 23: I'm like, I visited the campus and the and the
Speaker 23: impact of Reverend Jackson on the campus was like I
Speaker 23: had to come here because I felt the legacy of
Speaker 23: not only as we talk about the Greensboro for the
Speaker 23: A and T four, but also the legacy of civil
Speaker 23: rights leaders from HBCUs across the land. And I know,
Speaker 23: I know we got fam you over in the corner,
Speaker 23: and yeah, like I would tell you Jackson was my
Speaker 23: inspiration as well.
Speaker 15: I would tell you, be a study, be a student
Speaker 15: of these organizations, Be a student of the history so
Speaker 15: that you can make your desired impact.
Speaker 13: Make sure that you have the affiliation.
Speaker 15: I'm so honored to see you next to my brother,
Speaker 15: but card, you couldn't learn from anyone greater than that.
Speaker 15: And see you sitting besides Angela, I mean like, surround
Speaker 15: yourself around the people that are already know, that have
Speaker 15: been down there. And this has legacy, not dynasty, not
Speaker 15: as in something that the whites have where they're passing
Speaker 15: on bequeathing wealth to one another. Legacy. We have to
Speaker 15: be concerned about our names. We have to be concerned
Speaker 15: about passing on history and tradition. So we're in an
Speaker 15: empasy part of our struggle in so many ways. We
Speaker 15: just got an African American History Museum. There's so much
Speaker 15: about a history we still trying to learn and figure out.
Speaker 15: So surround yourself with those that have legacy, whose parents
Speaker 15: have already paid that taught them. There are some things
Speaker 15: that have happened around these two people's kitchen table that
Speaker 15: what's it like growing up in the Northwest suburbs and
Speaker 15: still being an advocate? And guess what, many great whites
Speaker 15: are out there that applaud and support these causes. Once
Speaker 15: they see us moving, they double down. What's it like
Speaker 15: growing up in South Carolina having to get over all
Speaker 15: the issues of Jim Crow. So it's a vast nation,
Speaker 15: a lot of a lot of complexities to the United States.
Speaker 15: And so I would say continue and I applaud you.
Speaker 15: I am so proud to know at your age that
Speaker 15: you've had your mind made up. This was the furthest
Speaker 15: thing from my mind being in public office. I went
Speaker 15: to business school and at the law school, I was
Speaker 15: doing private business. And at the age of fifty six,
Speaker 15: this opportunity opened up, and I said, what is the
Speaker 15: highest and best useage your mind time with the days
Speaker 15: that I have left, let me go run for office.
Speaker 15: And if I of course, I was afraid if it
Speaker 15: doesn't work, I failed. But if I don't try, I'll
Speaker 15: certainly fail. So thank god I was giving this opportunity.
Speaker 23: Can I say yes like I wanted to say while
Speaker 23: I'm here at the stage, I'm so grateful for leaders
Speaker 23: like yourself who continue to pour into the next generation
Speaker 23: and who continue to you know, you know, give inspiration
Speaker 23: like as I always see you all doing the great,
Speaker 23: amazing work that you are doing.
Speaker 11: Your inspiration to many.
Speaker 23: I remember I say it all the time when I
Speaker 23: went with the family to impact their families and we were,
Speaker 23: you know, advocating for George Floyd Justice and Policing Act,
Speaker 23: and we had went to like all the Senators offices,
Speaker 23: and we went to the White House I said, I
Speaker 23: remember when I was following, following around the carry sellers
Speaker 23: around that we was with George Floyd family and others,
Speaker 23: and so you all, even this all impacts, even the
Speaker 23: small things that that you do. People are watching, young
Speaker 23: folks are watching, especially me especially, and I would say,
Speaker 23: I'm just grateful for your your your your being a
Speaker 23: great role model and for paving the way for young
Speaker 23: folks to to come up and to get get into
Speaker 23: this work.
Speaker 12: So I'm grateful.
Speaker 4: We're so grateful for you all for being here. We're
Speaker 4: so grateful you show, but we're so grateful for you
Speaker 4: all being here. Thank you all so much. So, you guys,
Speaker 4: I wanted to just take a moment.
Speaker 3: To talk a little bit about what's happened, not just
Speaker 3: what's happening on the stage, but what we've experienced today
Speaker 3: for the viewers at home, you are, this has been
Speaker 3: such a rich, rewarding experience.
Speaker 4: We talked to Legacy.
Speaker 3: We couldn't have done Chicago without the Jackson family.
Speaker 4: We couldn't have done Okay, we couldn't. Bakari's on another planet.
Speaker 11: Chat.
Speaker 4: This is first and last time first love love. But
Speaker 4: this is look him. He's just in his own word.
Speaker 3: Are you checking back in? Thank you, Thank you, Congressman.
Speaker 3: We're so grateful, thank you. So here's the thing, this
Speaker 3: conversation to me has been rooted in so much history,
Speaker 3: so much legacy, and still packed with so much hope
Speaker 3: for the future. TELI like grounding up this rounding off
Speaker 3: this podcast today was amazing. It's so necessary not just
Speaker 3: to be like, well, what are the youth saying and
Speaker 3: kind of plopped them in. He's been in this work,
Speaker 3: says since he was thirteen years old. So I do
Speaker 3: think it's important that our podcast started in that very
Speaker 3: same theme that we had we saw on the convention
Speaker 3: stage for the people.
Speaker 4: This podcast has been for the people.
Speaker 3: We talked about an agenda that we were trying to
Speaker 3: feel in fulfilling seventy two, that we were trying to
Speaker 3: fulfill in sixty eight when Fanny lou Amer said.
Speaker 4: I'm tired, sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run myself.
Speaker 3: And we heard from folks who have take that responsibility,
Speaker 3: that mantled that torch that Joe Biden is supposed to
Speaker 3: pass to Kamala Harrison Night. We've seen that all on
Speaker 3: this podcast stage tonight, and I just want to say
Speaker 3: I thank y'all.
Speaker 4: I love y'all. This has been great. I want to
Speaker 4: hear from y'all. But that's what was on our to share,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, some of some of our guests
Speaker 1: were planned tonight. Some we just saw walking by and
Speaker 1: we grabbed them. And I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: great things about the convention. One thing that I find
Speaker 1: striking here Andrew Bacari and Angela is the history that
Speaker 1: has been made in Chicago. I remember being here in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight in Grant Park election night when
Speaker 1: we saw President Barack Obama win the election. He went
Speaker 1: from Senator Obama to President Obama that night, and I
Speaker 1: remember walking.
Speaker 4: Through Grant Park.
Speaker 1: It was November and it was oddly warm that evening.
Speaker 1: It was in the seventies, and it was just a
Speaker 1: spirit in the air. And I remember walking past white
Speaker 1: people and they would just randomly say congratulations.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: But I would always say congratulations to you, yes, because
Speaker 1: right exactly, because we saw change and we will always
Speaker 1: view you know, our leaders, you know, history will judge them.
Speaker 1: But it does feel very reminiscent that we are here again,
Speaker 1: feeling that collective energy, and we see a very different
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris than we did four years ago. She's got
Speaker 1: the wind at her back.
Speaker 4: She is moving with ease.
Speaker 1: I know people are eager to hear specifics about her policies.
Speaker 1: She rolled them out in North Carolina. Her economic policies,
Speaker 1: they were very I thought digestible. There were things that
Speaker 1: made sense to us in our community. Absolutely, and so
Speaker 1: you know I have said on this podcast before it
Speaker 1: is going to happen, it is written that this is
Speaker 1: something black women and I love my brothers. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: y'all have done your work, and so we've both done
Speaker 1: our work. But I in the spirit of black women
Speaker 1: who have poured so much into this country and who
Speaker 1: a lot of us felt collectively exhausted and sad and depressed,
Speaker 1: and we are fighting the same battles that our parents
Speaker 1: and grandparents fought, and it just became a time of
Speaker 1: when will we see the fruits of our labor? And
Speaker 1: I have to say it is time, because we have
Speaker 1: tried for so long to bend this country to our will,
Speaker 1: and we know what happens to things that do not bend,
Speaker 1: and it is time for us to have new leadership
Speaker 1: in this country. So I feel that energy here and
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I feel it too, so excited
Speaker 1: that even Bacari couldn't get.
Speaker 5: Me down.
Speaker 6: Touchy insults, But in a real way, I think tonight
Speaker 6: I'm just sitting in gratitude for the moment that we
Speaker 6: found ourselves, but also for Joe Biden and his legacy. Yes,
Speaker 6: and I'm deliberately focusing on him this evening because this
Speaker 6: is the evening he will bring the message of the party.
Speaker 4: Hillary's on the stage, though, I just want to say.
Speaker 7: Well home.
Speaker 1: All white addressing the audience, how you know, possibly, Andrew,
Speaker 1: because you brought this up and I'm curious to hear
Speaker 1: from you and Baccari on this, and of course me
Speaker 1: and Angelica waym But you said how she must be feeling,
Speaker 1: and I do wonder about that, because she tried to crack.
Speaker 4: That glass ceiling. She has to be feeling every day,
Speaker 4: like I told you.
Speaker 1: So, probably what an expletive Bacari when you said when
Speaker 1: you lose all, you're out in the wilderness, and she
Speaker 1: was literally out in the wilderness, and you know your
Speaker 1: spirit broke for her when when the election did not
Speaker 1: turn in her favorite, and.
Speaker 4: She won the popular vote.
Speaker 1: On the popular vote, and we've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand votes out of Detroit were completely discounted.
Speaker 1: She lost Michigan by ten thousand. Had those votes been counted,
Speaker 1: she would have carried Michigan thus won the presidency. So
Speaker 1: to have to watch someone you know, living out the
Speaker 1: nightmare that you tried to warn the country about, and
Speaker 1: then to have to watch someone else living out the
Speaker 1: dream that you for so long have dreamt, I do
Speaker 1: wonder what she must be feeling tonight.
Speaker 9: Yes, I mean I was going to say we could
Speaker 9: we could go and listen.
Speaker 6: I don't think we're gonna hear it from her from
Speaker 6: the stage tonight, because I do think there's probably a
Speaker 6: septext there that that that we won't get. I have
Speaker 6: to imagine that there's some pride, obviously for the fact
Speaker 6: that even though I didn't have that moment, we may
Speaker 6: be setting up for that moment to be had with
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris in this cycle. I have to imagine that
Speaker 6: there's also you know there I told you so, like
Speaker 6: you just mentioned, and and maybe even hopefully she has
Speaker 6: some pride and the fact that maybe she had to
Speaker 6: go that way, and that it had to happen the way.
Speaker 7: I believe. I believe she's in.
Speaker 6: Order for us to experience the moment that we're gonna
Speaker 6: have today the rest of this convention, and I believe November.
Speaker 9: Seven, I believe a great Sorry.
Speaker 4: I just have to tell you all this because I
Speaker 4: feel so shamed.
Speaker 3: I've been so like, I'm listening to the conversation, but
Speaker 3: I've been so distracted about y'all's appearance. I forgot to
Speaker 3: tell y'all the whole show you had on these credentials
Speaker 3: the entire time.
Speaker 4: That's okay, okay, okay, what were you saying?
Speaker 7: She interrupted me to say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I just thought about I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
Speaker 7: I don't know what I was. I was talking about Hillary.
Speaker 9: She she might feel.
Speaker 7: I believe, you guys, I believe.
Speaker 8: I believe one of the things about Hillary Clinton is
Speaker 8: that a lot like we want Joe Biden to be,
Speaker 8: but it's some level of compute, and I believe she
Speaker 8: feels that completeness because it is Kamala Harris. You know,
Speaker 8: four weeks and one day ago, this was a totally
Speaker 8: different convention. It was a different space it was a
Speaker 8: different feel trajectory, and I'm not sure or that people
Speaker 8: would have that level of completeness. And I think one
Speaker 8: of the things that Kamala Harris teaches you, more so
Speaker 8: than anything else, is that you have to be prepared
Speaker 8: for that moment, because it's one thing to be thrust
Speaker 8: into that light. It's another thing to be able to
Speaker 8: harness that energy. It's one thing to get that responsibility,
Speaker 8: it's another thing to be able to bear that responsibility's
Speaker 8: and I believe that what you're seeing from Hillary Clinton
Speaker 8: tonight and one of the things you'll see from Joe
Speaker 8: Biden later is this inherent trust that not only do
Speaker 8: I support Kamala Harris, but she got me too, and
Speaker 8: she and it's that's it. And so because it's in
Speaker 8: good hands, I didn't get there, but we complete real.
Speaker 6: That's real, that's real. Bokari, I believe that too. I
Speaker 6: also think it was really important that what we're getting
Speaker 6: from from him. I think what we will be getting
Speaker 6: from him this evening is permission to the extent that
Speaker 6: there are still those Biden folks who are and I'm
Speaker 6: a Biden Harris folk up until he made us a
Speaker 6: Harris Walls Clan. But I think he may may create
Speaker 6: a permission structure for those who still may be in
Speaker 6: some set of denial that it's okay to fully embrace
Speaker 6: the change that has happened that's led us to this moment.
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was possible a month ago. But
Speaker 6: we're here and this is where we're going. She is
Speaker 6: going to take us the rest of the way. I've
Speaker 6: done my part and I'm now handing it off. I
Speaker 6: think he did that in naming her the same day
Speaker 6: that he announced his pulling out of the race. And
Speaker 6: I think in very physical form this party, the leadership
Speaker 6: of this party, the delegates who are here assembled this
Speaker 6: really important and August gathering, this man will be in
Speaker 6: physical form able to pass it on. And I think
Speaker 6: that healing that visual is something necessary for our party.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I know you want to go to
Speaker 1: the floor and hear the speeches, but I just want
Speaker 1: to say what a delight it is to have you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I love you guys, I love you guys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 8: The fact that we've been able to humble each other
Speaker 8: and push each other and pray for each other and
Speaker 8: and do it all together. And then I get the
Speaker 8: most satisfaction of walking with you all and watching how
Speaker 8: other people respond to you. I think that is one
Speaker 8: of the more amazing experiences when you have peers who
Speaker 8: people want to take a picture with, or a senior
Speaker 8: who wants to hug Andrew, probably because she think is me.
Speaker 6: No shots, nostopstops, no pit stops.
Speaker 4: I really don't.
Speaker 9: Straight these straight the hair straight?
Speaker 5: The hell?
Speaker 4: No picture said tonight, just send him to hell before
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 7: I love y'all.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go Hillary. Yeah, and she got on her suffrages.
Speaker 4: Why yeah, that is yellow.
Speaker 9: That's not yellow as far as I can see, it
Speaker 9: look white.
Speaker 4: But okay, I know you want to go. I just
Speaker 4: want to say thank you so so much for.
Speaker 12: Thank you, I mean thank y'all for doing the cross
Speaker 12: collab and.
Speaker 3: Audience car tune into the Bakari Sellers podcast.
Speaker 4: He is on Ringer and Spotify Today he is with
Speaker 4: Native Lamby.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: That's definitely come back. Okay, and can you mute both
Speaker 4: those microphones? That's what you're saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and now you get to take us out?
Speaker 4: Okay, can you still hear me?
Speaker 3: I didn't I thought you were telling me to pick
Speaker 3: it up, no mute. Okay, maybe next time like when
Speaker 3: we work on our anyway. Yeah, I'm so grateful that
Speaker 3: we are here. You guys know that it was quite
Speaker 3: a journey. Even today, I'm so grateful again, what's happened today?
Speaker 11: Girl?
Speaker 3: All the things to be told later, but I also
Speaker 3: want to acknowledge again. You know, we have this really
Speaker 3: dope chat. We always talk about our growth chat, but
Speaker 3: we also have a Blacks and Media group chat, and
Speaker 3: we shouted out Roland earlier today for literally making sure
Speaker 3: not the girls one, but the blacks and media one.
Speaker 4: So well at you.
Speaker 3: Actually you actually took yourself out of that chat. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's all good, but we love you nonetheless, and we
Speaker 3: love Rolling for no matter what we love we love
Speaker 3: Rolling because whether it's today on set making sure that
Speaker 3: we're straight, or making sure that black issues are being discussed,
Speaker 3: or making sure that there are black media buys, or
Speaker 3: making sure that black people have platforms, or making sure
Speaker 3: that we are all die shiky down to the sid.
Speaker 4: Is gonna look out.
Speaker 3: So we love you Rolling, and you all make sure
Speaker 3: that you also tune into Blackstar Network, that you tune in.
Speaker 3: Rolling is live tonight until midnight. I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: go see go see the show, Go see the show.
Speaker 3: We're going to go see the floor. Yeah, and we
Speaker 3: are going to continue to cheer on the Black Chair,
Speaker 3: the Black Sea, all of this convention, Mignon Moore and
Speaker 3: the Black Chair of the Democratic National Committee, Jamie Harrison,
Speaker 3: who spoke earlier today.
Speaker 4: So we're really thrilled to be here. We hope y'all
Speaker 4: tune in tomorrow seven Central.
Speaker 6: And this has been way before you say what it's been.
Speaker 6: I just want to give a quick shout out to
Speaker 6: all of the staff have helped to pull this.
Speaker 4: Thank you, team of talent over here.
Speaker 9: The creators, bookers together here with us.
Speaker 4: We're cheering for everybody. Chris Walker, We're cheering for everybody
Speaker 4: to say thank you.
Speaker 3: We are just about rapped, and I want to say
Speaker 3: this is episode thirty three of Native LAMPI.
Speaker 4: We're still rapping. But come on up here, you'll walk back.
Speaker 9: Nick.
Speaker 3: There're seventy seven days in til the election, seventy eight,
Speaker 3: but if.
Speaker 4: You tune in tomorrow, it'll be seventy in the morning exactly.
Speaker 3: But for those that you tune into the live stream
Speaker 3: and kept it with us, Hi Mark Urban League Presator.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll have it mine at some point this week.
Speaker 3: We love you, Love you, min And for now we're
Speaker 3: gonna wrap and maybe catch the end of Hillary Rodham
Speaker 3: Clinton's right.
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