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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jack Katie and Key Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 3: There are senior aides inside the Biden White House who

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Speaker 3: are deliberating over whether there should be a more formalized

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Speaker 3: approach by the president to protect people with a preemptive pardon.

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Speaker 3: So it's that's something that's in the discussion phase right now.

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Speaker 3: A preemptive pardons to people that may be on Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump or his allies lists of people they dislike. That

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Speaker 3: would be a whole new world of the usage of

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Speaker 3: the presidential pardon. So a lot of typical implications there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it'd be a whole new world.

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Speaker 1: And that came out originally from Jonathan Martin his reporting,

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Speaker 1: and it was confirmed yesterday by Peter Baker of The

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Speaker 1: New York Times. The White House is weighing blanket pardons

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Speaker 1: for Trump's perceived enemies. James Cliburn, the guy from South

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Speaker 1: Carolina who's the only reason Biden ever ended up being president,

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Speaker 1: is urging Biden to do it. I've seen Cash Bettel

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Speaker 1: saying who he's going after? So why should we not

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Speaker 1: believe them.

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Speaker 4: Well, if the justice system and a jury of their

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Speaker 4: peers find the guilty of the stuff that earned them

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Speaker 4: the dislike of Trump, well then they're guilty. To presume

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Speaker 4: that every single thing Donald Trump is unhappy about or

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Speaker 4: his people are happy about, is merely a creation of

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Speaker 4: their own insanity.

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Speaker 2: Where did you get that?

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Speaker 1: Well, let me present it as a lefty I would

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Speaker 1: I think, why wouldn't you say, let this is good news?

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Speaker 1: If I'm a Democrat, Let Trump and his Justice Department

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Speaker 1: bring crazy charges against innocent people and make you spend

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Speaker 1: all their political capital on that.

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Speaker 2: Go for it?

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Speaker 1: Is what I would say, is a Democrat, because they're

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Speaker 1: claiming it's all nuts.

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Speaker 2: Well, then what do you need the blanket partons for?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: You know, I might respond that it's incredibly expensive and

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Speaker 4: disruptive merely to be accused of stuff and follow Yeah, such,

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Speaker 4: it'd be miserable enforcement, it'd be miserable.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if they're they're talking about some journalists

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Speaker 1: to Okay, if you think it's just insane and it

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Speaker 1: would be pretty insane to go after journalists, uh that way, well, then.

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Speaker 4: What are you worried about? Well, and come on just

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Speaker 4: and this is this is a minor point, because the

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Speaker 4: constitutional point is is all powerful here. But Trump spent

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Speaker 4: his entire twenty sixteen campaigns saying Hillary ought to go

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Speaker 4: to jail. Then the moment he got in the office,

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Speaker 4: he said, no, that would be too divisive and time consuming.

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Speaker 1: Act point Tilly, We're not going to do that. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna focus on the Yeah, excellent point. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: a Republican, I might say the same thing. And I

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Speaker 1: was just saying about the Democrats, Hey, go for it,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, go with the blanket pardons, and see what

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Speaker 1: that does for your party. I don't care about your legacy,

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Speaker 1: but see what that does for your party. The problem

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Speaker 1: is what it does to people's view of the Justice

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Speaker 1: Department and rule of law and cynicism towards politicians and everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, as Peggy Noonan wrote, well, just quote

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Speaker 4: her as embarrassing as a citizen to see the president

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Speaker 4: of the US pardon his son in such an all

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Speaker 4: encompassing way for any legal transaggression going back nearly eleven years,

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Speaker 4: which feels like a concession to the assumption that is

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Speaker 4: more interesting law breaking or stretching may yet be unknown.

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Speaker 4: And then she goes into the fact that he promised

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Speaker 4: frequently and explicitly that he'd play it straight and let

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Speaker 4: the course of justice play out, which means he knew

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Speaker 4: it was important to people how they viewed him, so

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Speaker 4: he lied to reassure them all. This did what others

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Speaker 4: have said, lower trust and political leaders, made them more cynical,

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Speaker 4: I think, and that's absolutely true, and that was indefensible

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Speaker 4: that blanket pardoned for a period of many years.

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Speaker 2: That's just sick.

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Speaker 4: But she made makes two points kind of indirectly and

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Speaker 4: directly that I thought were interesting. Number one and the

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Speaker 4: less important one is she says this pardon struck me

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Speaker 4: as a bitter action too. A president who cared about

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Speaker 4: public opinion, even that of his own party, would not

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Speaker 4: have done it or this way. It's a president flipping

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Speaker 4: the bird to an ungrateful nation that coldly turned on

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Speaker 4: him after a single debate and then elected that tramp,

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Speaker 2: They deserve what they get. There might be some of that.

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Speaker 1: There also might be some Most of us don't know

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be on d's d death's door,

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Speaker 1: which Biden might feel like he actually is that although

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Speaker 1: where does the anger come from, Where does the whole

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Speaker 1: the justice department is corrupt thing come from? Again, there's

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Speaker 1: that's a completely different.

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Speaker 2: Emotion.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm a dad and I can and save my son,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to well And it's just bizarre given

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Speaker 1: the facts of the case. I mean, the hunter bragged

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Speaker 1: about the gun thing in his memoir, he confessed in

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Speaker 1: writing to the crime, so that one check and then

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Speaker 1: the tax stuff he got the opposite of unfairly harsh

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Speaker 1: treatment or unusually harsh treatment.

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Speaker 4: So again it was just factually nuts. It was useless politically,

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Speaker 4: I swear I smell the the unfortunate perfume of one doctor.

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Speaker 4: Fake doctor Jill Biden in the wording say one way,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, I sneeze. You should see doctors should give

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Speaker 4: you some Come on, here's the main point. Though all

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Speaker 4: of this has been great fun, but here is this

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Speaker 4: is the devastating point.

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Speaker 2: Cleary calendars.

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Speaker 4: Tell your kids to shut up, full over to the

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Speaker 4: side of the road, all right, Joe's about to launch

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Speaker 4: a truth ICBM.

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Speaker 2: In your direction. The kids shut up in the same

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Speaker 2: way that I just moved. Here.

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Speaker 4: I'll illustrate this, Judy and I moved several years ago

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Speaker 4: from a house that.

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Speaker 2: Had very little storage.

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Speaker 4: It's weird, like, didn't have enough closets, there's no attic whatever,

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Speaker 4: to a house that had just tremendous amounts of storage

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Speaker 4: in the attics and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows this.

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Speaker 4: The more storage space you have, the more crap you accumulated,

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Speaker 4: and everyone knows it, or.

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Speaker 2: Keep it least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, George Carlin had a great bit on it yourself anyway,

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Speaker 4: right in the same way, in a similar way. And

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Speaker 4: I don't make to make don't mean to make light

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Speaker 4: of this, because again I'm going to level the city

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Speaker 4: of your illusions with my atomic weaponry of logic. And

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Speaker 4: here it is, let's face it, politicians in general, people

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Speaker 4: in general, they get away with they try to get

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Speaker 4: away with what they think they can get away with.

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Speaker 2: They push against the.

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Speaker 4: Constitution or just tear it to the extent that they

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Speaker 4: think they can. They loot the treasury, they abuse your rights.

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Speaker 4: They you know, at list every conceivable miscarriage of power

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Speaker 4: misuse of power that you can think of. Okay, if

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Speaker 4: I am operating in a world where it is routine

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Speaker 4: or even just possible that the head guy will pardon

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Speaker 4: me in advance for anything that I do. Don't you

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Speaker 4: think that really enlarges the palate of things I might do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No kidding, Holy crap.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know to some superhero who you know,

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Speaker 4: what's the superhero dude who you can like shoot him

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Speaker 4: and he's a wisecracking guy and the it heals real quick.

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Speaker 4: You can break his arm and it heals wise crack,

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Speaker 4: and everybody loves him as violent but funny. Come on, Katie,

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Speaker 4: you're young and hip. What the hell am I think

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Speaker 4: it's dead? Where's a mask?

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Speaker 2: Deadpool?

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Speaker 2: Exactly if I was in a beauty Why are you

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Speaker 2: shaking your head like that? Because I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What you're supposed to know. I'll look into my superhero

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Speaker 4: rolodex there knowing. But seriously, if I, as a bureaucrat,

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Speaker 4: a government official, can commit virtually any sin against the

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Speaker 4: people or the constitution knowing that I will be preemptively pardoned,

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Speaker 4: because that's a thing. Now, Holy crap, let's hear what

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Speaker 4: Ari Fleischer said about these potential pardons.

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Speaker 6: So I just think this whole thing is nuts. They

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Speaker 6: think that Donald Trump is going to come out and

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Speaker 6: get them. It just shows they haven't learned any of

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Speaker 6: the less sins that made them lose this election. They

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Speaker 6: still have Trump de arrangement syndrome as opposed to realizing

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump actually stands for a lot of common sense.

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Speaker 6: But it's also destructive. It's destructive because if they do it,

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Speaker 6: rest assured another Republican president will do it as well, right,

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Speaker 6: and then the pardon as established in the Constitution is demolished.

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Speaker 6: Now it becomes a tool for presidents of both parties

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Speaker 6: to in advance give out get out of jail free

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Speaker 6: cards to anybody and anybody on their list, even if

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Speaker 6: they didn't commit a crime.

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Speaker 4: So here he's making the same point I did, without

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Speaker 4: the charming illustrations of attic Space and superheroes.

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Speaker 2: So the question I have is.

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Speaker 1: Most even lefties, think this pardoning his son was horrible,

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Speaker 1: mostly because Biden went out there and claimed five hundred times.

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Speaker 2: That he wasn't going to do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, people feel the same way about a blanket pardon

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Speaker 4: See I don't because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If they would react the same way as they're reacting

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Speaker 4: Again, the lying in the hypocrisy is absolutely a legit

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Speaker 4: topic to be fired up about. It's the blanket nature

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Speaker 4: of any offenses for a given period of time that

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Speaker 4: is a horror. Right, that is the part we cannot accept. Well,

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Speaker 4: that's the people. Yeah, that's why I asked that it's articulately.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that a lot of Democrats

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Speaker 1: react with, well, he had to do that because Trump's

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Speaker 1: a hitler, and you've got to do this, and so

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Speaker 1: that will as you said, and NARRII Fleischer said, it's

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Speaker 1: just kind of it's going to rewrite the rules of pardons,

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Speaker 1: the Overton window of pardons, and establish that's what people

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Speaker 1: do now. And as you said, now all kinds of

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Speaker 4: Right, it's the proverbial license to kill. You can give

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Speaker 4: all of your cronies a license for lawlessness with no

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Speaker 4: fear of retribution or repercussions. Again, that's the stuff of nightmares.

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Speaker 4: Never mind that the senile old mummy who's about to

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Speaker 4: leave us. Finally and let us get on with our

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Speaker 4: country is a lion hipocrite who cares it's the blanket anything.

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Speaker 4: They did think that it's Orwellian. I wish Orwell wasn't

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Speaker 4: quoted so much because it's lost some of its weight.

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Speaker 4: But this is a nightmare for a free people.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't happen because the reaction to the Hunter pardon has

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, what was it?

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Speaker 1: Five New York Times columnists the other day, in one

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Speaker 1: addition saying it was horrible. I'm thinking that the nose

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Speaker 1: will win the debate inside the White House.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that they're having a vigorous debate over

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Speaker 4: Amazing, you know, And it's frustrating just as a per

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Speaker 4: who actually and I'm sure all of you share this,

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Speaker 4: who actually cares about this country and thinks it's an

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Speaker 4: incredible experiment.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Right, some this is going to be a painful exercise

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I'll use all the Spanish ido Cabo

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Speaker 4: More to come stay with us, Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: I got some great texts around the possible blanket pardon

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Speaker 1: Any dad would do this? Any dad would pardon Adam Shift.

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Speaker 4: How about a gender bending madness update, A very special one.

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Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna need your parents to come sign off

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Speaker 8: Why can't I do what I want? It's my body,

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Speaker 4: How about a beer?

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Speaker 8: No, a fake pen? A lighter?

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Speaker 2: Not in this state?

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Speaker 8: Can I read a car bottled cough syrup?

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Speaker 2: What do you drunk?

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Speaker 8: Fireworks?

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Speaker 2: You might blow yourself up?

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Speaker 8: That Gruger GP one hundred and a box of thirty

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Speaker 8: I just I don't know. Like getting irreversible gender surgery?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or get powerful hormone treatments. So your gender betning

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Speaker 2: They as usual these activists.

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Speaker 4: You've come to believe Twitter is America and your activist

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Speaker 4: Well, precisely as she writes, she says, on such and

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Speaker 4: such a date, I resigned for such and such a board.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah, an organization that has become a travesty

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Speaker 4: of my original intent. From an organization with a specific

444
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Speaker 4: mission of supporting biological women who want to give their

445
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Speaker 4: baby just say women, to just say women. It's the

446
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Speaker 4: only kind of women there are who want to give

447
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Speaker 4: their babies the best start in life by breastfeeding them.

448
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 4: LL's focus has subtly shifted to include men who for

449
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Speaker 4: whatever reason, want to have the experience of breastfeeding despite

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Speaker 4: no careful, long term research on male actation and how

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Speaker 4: they may affect the baby.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's horrible, I mean now, I mean, this is

453
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Speaker 1: like another level beyond other horrible stuff. You got a

454
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Speaker 1: tiny little baby that needs nutrients to survive and they

455
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Speaker 1: might not be getting any of it because who knows.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrifying.

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Speaker 4: I read on this shift from following the norms of nature,

458
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Speaker 4: which is the core of mothering through breastfeeding, to indulging

459
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Speaker 4: the fantasies of adults is destroying our organization. She further

460
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Speaker 4: explained in an interview quote, there's no justification for experimentation

461
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Speaker 4: on newborn babies. No one knows the effects of the

462
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Speaker 4: multiple drugs and hormones used by these males on the

463
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Speaker 4: health of babies. There are no long term studies at all.

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Speaker 4: Of course, one of the drugs almost all well, yeah,

465
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: because this lunacy only reared its nutty head a few

466
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Speaker 4: years ago. Indeed, one of the drugs almost always used

467
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Speaker 4: to induce lactation, dom paradone, is actually banned in the

468
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Speaker 4: United States. How can we justify experimenting on babies? Who

469
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Speaker 4: cannot give any type of consent. How is this ethical?

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Speaker 4: God bless you, ma'am for doing that and writing that

471
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Speaker 1: It reminds me the Ricky Gervais joke a different issue,

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Speaker 1: same thing though, where he said, you know why there

475
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Speaker 1: aren't any rules about that because nobody thought we having.

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Speaker 2: Needed any.

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Speaker 4: Right exactly why are there no rules against people with

478
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Speaker 4: penises and women's sports because nobody thought it was necessary.

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Speaker 2: To become one.

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Speaker 4: Ah okay, So back to the Supreme Court. A couple

503
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Speaker 4: of comments. There was so much madness in that hearing

504
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Speaker 4: the fact that it even occurred is a measure of

505
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Speaker 4: how far down the road to crazyville we've gotten that.

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Speaker 4: You know, the state of Tennessee could say there's no

507
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Speaker 4: scientific basis for this dangerous medical treatment you're laying on children,

508
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: how that you can't do this anymore? And then activists

509
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: say no, the Constitution says we can continue to experiment

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Speaker 4: on children.

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Speaker 2: That's a decent point. And I made it all the

512
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Speaker 2: way to the Supreme Court. Yeah, yeah, gosh, dang it,

513
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Speaker 2: that's disturbing.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Judge Justice Alito asked whether transgender is an

515
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Speaker 4: immutable characteristic because under the fourteenth Amendment that the plaintiffs

516
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: were saying, you can't have unequal treatment. If a boy

517
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Speaker 4: can get hormones for you know, some sort of testicular

518
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Speaker 4: malfunction for instance, then a girl should be able to

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Speaker 4: get hormones to turn her into a boy. Otherwise that

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Speaker 4: sex discrimination because she's transgender. Well, Alito said, all right,

521
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Speaker 4: is transgender an immutable characteristic which means you can't possibly

522
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Speaker 4: change it? You can't like become a white guy tomorrow

523
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Speaker 4: if you're a black guy, you just can't.

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Speaker 2: That's what immutable means. What about Michael Jackson, the.

525
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Speaker 4: Exception that proves the rule? He anyway, so strongio.

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Speaker 2: The the the the.

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Speaker 4: Lawyer person person argued, Yeah, there is a strong biological

528
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Speaker 4: basis between sex and gender. Therefore it is immutable. In

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Speaker 4: the very next question, the next question, Alito asked about

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Speaker 4: gender fluidity and strongio. The transgender lawyer argued, the gender

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Speaker 4: identity is informed by an individual's understanding of their gender.

532
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Speaker 4: Therefore it is fluid, which is the opposite of immutable

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Speaker 4: right back to back questions.

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Speaker 1: Aw, that's interesting, I had missed that. But yeah, that

535
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Speaker 1: argument has been a problem all along, and this doctor

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Speaker 1: right now, I could born that way, and it's up

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Speaker 1: to me on it can change on a daily basis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: which is it exactly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the devastating point by this doctor. It should

541
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Speaker 4: not be lost on us that we live in a

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Speaker 4: time when the US Supreme Court is presented two arguments

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Speaker 4: back to back that are completely and undeniably in contradiction

544
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Speaker 4: with each other, while the arguing attorney has the ability

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Speaker 4: to carry on with full confidence lacking any awareness of

546
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Speaker 4: these glaring problems. Thus, we have some of the best

547
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Speaker 4: legal minds in the country hearing arguments from someone who

548
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Speaker 4: not only cannot identify her own contradictions, but does not

549
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Speaker 4: appear to comprehend the very concept of contradiction in the

550
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Speaker 4: first place. I guess this shouldn't be much of a surprise,

551
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Speaker 4: since the judicial bench is shared with another justice who

552
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Speaker 4: casually compares the risks of taking aspirin to the chronic

553
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Speaker 4: administration of deforming and sterilizing hormones. There are many questions

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Speaker 4: that will arise from the skurmeti case. But one that

555
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Speaker 4: I imagine we will be pondering for quite some time

556
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Speaker 4: is how we got to this situation in the first place.

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Speaker 4: And then let's see what time is it. We're running

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Speaker 4: kind of late. That's too bad. We've got some great

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Speaker 4: about this. You have time for this.

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Speaker 2: We can do them, maxt I was going to do

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Speaker 2: a couple of texts.

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Speaker 1: You want to do text mail, sure from some of

563
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Speaker 1: you who are smart slash funny. Got that on the way,

564
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other stuff. Stay here, how y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: You realize that you got this weekend, two more weekends,

566
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Speaker 1: and then you got Christmas on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You realize that, right? Okay? Do I realize that? I

568
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Speaker 2: better realize that craziness.

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Speaker 4: I was tempted to get into this great piece by

570
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Speaker 4: a legal expert on at least a half a dozen

571
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Speaker 4: false claims that were made during the governments, the federal

572
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Speaker 4: government and the transactivists side. What the hell the federal

573
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Speaker 4: government Joe Biden's federal government is arguing in favor of

574
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Speaker 4: mutilating kids lovely anyway, But there were many false false

575
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Speaker 4: claims that are easily debunked in front of the Supreme

576
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Speaker 4: Court about the safety of these drugs and the side

577
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Speaker 4: effects and their permanence and all sorts of stuff. Man,

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Speaker 4: if you're having to come to the Supreme Court with dishonesty,

579
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Speaker 4: it's because you don't have an honest case to make.

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Speaker 4: But why don't we go with some of the text

581
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Speaker 4: and emails instead? You want to lead with a text

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Speaker 4: or two.

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Speaker 2: Or no, no, no, do your stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's see you got this from anonymous morning fellas.

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Speaker 4: I want to chime in on what the lawyer she

586
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Speaker 4: him at. Whatever they were said about children not having

587
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Speaker 4: the right to hormones due to sex discrimination, I couldn't

588
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: help but think as I listened to them speak, how

589
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Speaker 4: absurd it is to claim sex discrimination while simultaneously being

590
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Speaker 4: unable to define what a boy or a girl even is.

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Speaker 4: It goes back to the same question. If genitals don't

592
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Speaker 4: decide gender, then how does cutting them off a fermit?

593
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Speaker 4: The mental gymnastics are wild. How can these people be

594
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Speaker 4: so blinded by ideology that their arguments don't even hold

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Speaker 4: up within their own framework?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That is the one that has really struck me in

598
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Speaker 1: recent days, is that idea that it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: I have boobs in of a I'm not a woman. Okay, well,

600
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Speaker 1: then why does removing them help you?

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Speaker 4: Right? And I find, as the father of a couple

602
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Speaker 4: of beautiful daughters, the idea that a woman is just

603
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Speaker 4: a low testosterone male with a couple of nips and tucks.

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Speaker 4: That's what a woman is, my ass.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

606
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Speaker 4: Anyway, let's see this gender madness. Note. You know, I

607
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Speaker 4: really like this because I think John represents so many

608
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Speaker 4: people guys. I have no personal experiments experience with this subject.

609
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Speaker 4: I don't know anyone who's dealing with this problem. I

610
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Speaker 4: personally think it's all a mental illness. I'm fifty four

611
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Speaker 4: years old. How do I not know anyone who's dealing

612
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Speaker 4: with this? Is it because I live in the Central

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Speaker 4: Valley of California. Both of my sons are mechanics. I'm

614
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Speaker 4: a tradesman myself. People will work with their hands and

615
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Speaker 4: do s don't have these issues.

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Speaker 2: It saddens me.

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Speaker 4: I think if everyone just grabbed a shovel once in

618
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Speaker 4: a while and dug a holder built a fence, we'd

619
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Speaker 4: all be okay.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm, that's good, and that's my dad right there. More

621
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Speaker 1: people need to dig a hole or build a fence less,

622
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Speaker 1: depression less, this stuff less, all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: I would agree. I would agree.

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Speaker 4: I just talked to one of my daughters as a

625
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Speaker 4: matter of fact last night about you know, emotional struggles

626
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Speaker 4: and problems and how going out and taking a brisk

627
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: walk is like a wonder drug. Hey, it's an exercise.

628
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Speaker 4: Get your heart pump.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Hunter Biden parton and maybe the

630
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Speaker 1: blanket partons for other people. A lot of people have

631
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Speaker 1: mentioned this. What if Hunter said to Joe over Thanksgiving,

632
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Speaker 1: if I serve time, we all serve time. I don't

633
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Speaker 1: know if he had to say that, or if he's

634
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Speaker 1: just kind of implied. Look, if I go down and

635
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: they start looking into this stuff, we're all going down.

636
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Speaker 2: So that might be driving a lot of it.

637
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Speaker 4: I don't mean to be unnecessarily dramatic, but no mob

638
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 4: boss has to say that. Everybody involved in the syndicate nose.

639
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if is this legally possible?

640
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Speaker 1: Day one and Office Trump should issue an executive order

641
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: revoking the blanket presidential pardon for unter Biden, let him

642
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Speaker 1: face the consequences, revoke any other blanket partons as well,

643
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Speaker 1: and then eat the Thanksgiving Turkey.

644
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Speaker 4: Too excellent comedic camp to that street. I don't know

645
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Speaker 4: anything about if you can unpardon somebody I don't respect, not,

646
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Speaker 4: but if.

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Speaker 1: You could, and maybe you can, I don't know, Probably not,

648
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Speaker 1: but then you know it'd be'd further prove what we've

649
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Speaker 1: been saying. The other side is going to get to

650
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Speaker 1: do this too. Do you want the other side to

651
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Speaker 1: be able to do this? Democrats? Do you want Trump

652
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Speaker 1: to be able to pardon blanket pardon for people as

653
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Speaker 1: he heads out the door in four years?

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Speaker 2: No, you don't.

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Speaker 4: As I always say, the fact that you even have

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Speaker 4: to use that argument is incredibly disappointing.

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Speaker 2: But there it is.

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Speaker 4: I am certain, and perhaps we could consult one of

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Speaker 4: our constitutional Anita Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Your unpardoned bitch plate.

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Speaker 4: Certainly he could attempt it, citing the unconstitutionality of a

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Speaker 4: vague like time period covering all incumstancing immunity from the law.

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Speaker 2: Let's let the courts wrestle with this.

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Speaker 1: That would be hilarious. Trump giving a speech. We need

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Speaker 1: to take a look at the pardon power. It's become

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Speaker 1: too broad. I uh, let do this.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to rein it in here broad Many

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Speaker 2: people say it's too brong.

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Speaker 1: If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty