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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Lake Cakes Live. It is Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: September twelfth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one, jam.

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Speaker 2: Packed wall to wall, full week two reaction.

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Speaker 1: You had never had it more clear to you that

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Speaker 1: you can't trust him. When the quiet Saturdays arrived, that's

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Speaker 1: when you need to plan for the chaos. Yesterday we

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Speaker 1: had it all over the place. We had upsets sun

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Speaker 1: up to sundown. We had near upsets. We had full

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Speaker 1: circle of life moments everywhere, from suicidal cats, a baby

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Speaker 1: flat out got born at the Southern Miss game right

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Speaker 1: there in the stadium in front of God and everyone.

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Speaker 1: So a momentous Saturday on a number of different occasions,

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Speaker 1: for a number of different reasons, we are going to

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Speaker 1: have full reaction here. I got to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about Oregon and Arkansas, rolling over Ohio State and Texas respectively.

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Speaker 1: We had just utter nightmare scenarios unfold at Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Some of you didn't catch that live last night, but

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Speaker 1: you probably seen the replay. I put the over under

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Speaker 1: it ten times. You guys have watched that so far. Today,

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Speaker 1: Southern cal in the wee hours of the morning, lost

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Speaker 1: outright emphatically to Stanford. Our Chris Hummer said, boy, you

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Speaker 1: know when the sun comes up. He was speaking something

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Speaker 1: to that effect. I said, I don't think the sun's

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Speaker 1: coming up on Clay Hilton, and that was figurative in nature.

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Speaker 1: He's still the head coach right now, but I think

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Speaker 1: it is a matter of time now. At Southern cal So,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about that. A and m barely

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame almost lost to Toledo.

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Speaker 2: We got a whole up to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I was at Iowa State last night, slashed yesterday afternoon

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Speaker 1: and sporting a pretty serious sunburn. As evidence, ninety five

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Speaker 1: at kickoff in Ames, Iowa. It was seventy five in Athens, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Just turned the entire country upside down. We are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about that several more games. There were some

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Speaker 1: tight ones in the SEC yesterday and beyond. Michigan had

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Speaker 1: a really good afternoon. One of the most crazy run

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Speaker 1: to pass ratios you will see in the Jim Harbaugh era.

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Speaker 2: There is. They're not lacking at Michigan right now.

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Speaker 1: It's an identity. So before we go off the air

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Speaker 1: to night, I'm going to get you three best bets

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Speaker 1: on the Ram and Noodle Express. We went three and

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Speaker 1: two yesterday. That's all we ever try and do you

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Speaker 1: go three and two in life? You're hitting sixty percent? Well,

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Speaker 1: you're doing okay, You're doing really good if we're doing that.

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Speaker 2: So we had a good day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Vandy pulled us out of the fire outright when I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk more about that in a second. Also,

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Speaker 1: we are going to momentarily reveal where we'll be headed

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Speaker 1: for this week's tour stop in the Late Kick Renaissance Tour.

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Speaker 1: Had a good time, had a really good time at

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Speaker 1: Iowa State yesterday. I can't tell you how many dozens

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Speaker 1: and dozens and dozens of you that walked up and

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Speaker 1: said hey, everyone from staffers to stadium workers to other

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Speaker 1: photogs they're on the field. Saw a lot of our

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Speaker 1: folks from twenty four to seven in the press box

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you in the stands. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it, really appreciated all the kind words.

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Speaker 1: So there was a challenge I gave to you guys

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Speaker 1: last week, and it was you know, it was it was.

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Speaker 2: A couple fold in nature.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I said is college game days come

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Speaker 1: They picked Ashton Kutcher. They could have gone elsewhere for

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Speaker 1: our presence there in ames Iowa. Can we get lape

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Speaker 1: onto college game? Dan, I told you, if you pull

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Speaker 1: And then as I'm getting ready to leave my hotel

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Speaker 2: We do not know who this person was.

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Speaker 1: But if you're listening to the podcast, right there front

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Speaker 1: is a great, big, fat late kick live poster, and

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Speaker 1: so someone pulled it off. One of you actually pulled

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Speaker 1: nothing but net. We got to find out who that was. Someone,

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Speaker 1: Bring that person to me.

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Speaker 2: That is a hero.

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Speaker 1: Bring the hero to me because we got something for him.

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Speaker 1: If it's you, just prove to me that it's you

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Speaker 1: and we will hook you up. So thank you. Now,

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Speaker 1: Where are we going this week? Because I was in town.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't on the set. I was in town. College

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Speaker 1: not just following college game day, but stands to reason,

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Speaker 1: a couple of tough decisions here. Of course, we got

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Speaker 1: that's on CBS, that's the three thirty Easter and two

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Speaker 2: A couple of undefeated, big.

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Speaker 1: And then we've also got the white out. We've got

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Speaker 1: And so where do we go? I got probably more

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Speaker 1: We just came home from Ames, Iowa. Week three, they

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Speaker 1: on the field at Penn State Saturday night. The Late

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Speaker 1: Game day will be in town. Same challenge is on

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Speaker 1: though they can't say it publicly, they're really looking forward

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Speaker 1: we got to take a dive back into yesterday. This

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Speaker 1: sleeper Saturday. Be careful letting people in your life that

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of ways that I've seen

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of pure fundamental things yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: return on investment. And when they see a bunch of

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Speaker 1: folks randomly voluntarily saying, hey, just wanted you guys to

434
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Speaker 1: know it, just gave you some of my money only

435
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Speaker 1: because you're on this show that I like, it goes

436
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Speaker 1: a long way. I'll just leave it at that. Thank you. Ah.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Faithville, Arkansas, this one's gonna be fun that

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Speaker 1: not for our Texas viewers, but I'm going to talk

439
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Speaker 1: about Texas in a second. Arkansas splattered Texas all over

440
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Speaker 1: Fateville yesterday. The final was forty to twenty one. And

441
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: we have not used the term splattering a whole lot

442
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Speaker 1: this year. I save it only for the most special vccasion,

443
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: and this was a splattering. This was a wood shippering,

444
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Speaker 1: and the wrong team was favored. Really, when it comes

445
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 1: down to it, rarely do you say a touchdown favorite,

446
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: wrong team favored. But in retrospect, when you look if

447
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Speaker 1: they played this game again tomorrow, I don't doubt that

448
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: maybe an odds maker could still install Texas as a favorite.

449
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Speaker 1: I would not allow that to happen in our model.

450
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Speaker 1: I would manually override it. Texas was not a better

451
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Speaker 1: team than Arkansas, and so this was an incredible environment.

452
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Speaker 1: There were a lot of dynamics. We're gonna unpack it

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Speaker 1: here because you need to be paying attention to this.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you're not an Arkansas fan.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of places out there that need

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Speaker 1: a lesson from Arkansas. Right now. They are telling you

457
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Speaker 1: how to do it. And by it, I mean run

458
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Speaker 1: a successful program and build it the right way.

459
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Speaker 2: And a lot of you want to microwave it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you think you can you can market

461
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Speaker 1: and hashtag your way to success. That's cotton candy. They

462
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Speaker 1: are cooking the steak. They're grilling the steak right now.

463
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Speaker 1: Watch just shut up for a second, watch how they

464
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Speaker 1: do it. Because they're trying to show you. They to

465
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Speaker 1: show you how throw this domination was had five different players.

466
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Speaker 1: Did the Arkansas Razorbacks run for forty four or more

467
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Speaker 1: yards that they had four or five of them with

468
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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns? The final rushing statistics you ought to put

469
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Speaker 1: crime scene tape.

470
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Speaker 2: Around what I'm about to say.

471
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Speaker 1: Forty seven carries three hundred and thirty three total yards.

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Speaker 1: That's good for seven point one yards per carry. I

473
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Speaker 1: was over on Hog Sports earlier today, which is our

474
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Speaker 1: Arkansas twenty four to seven site, and I was asking

475
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Speaker 1: because I was watching this replay this morning on the

476
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Speaker 1: flight home, and I had the earbuds in, but I mean,

477
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Speaker 1: you can hear a little bit. You you have to

478
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Speaker 1: play an engine and all that, so it's kind of

479
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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to tell if you're hearing what

480
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Speaker 1: you think you're hearing. It sounded to me like the

481
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Speaker 1: most electric environment that I've ever seen in an Arkansas game.

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Speaker 1: So I asked some of our folks over there, for

483
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Speaker 1: those of you who went to the game, was this

484
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Speaker 1: as electric as you've experienced it? And a lot of

485
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Speaker 1: them said yeah. A lot of them jumped to my

486
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Speaker 1: DMS and said yeah, I mean there were a couple

487
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Speaker 1: of other moments maybe that compare for individual moments in

488
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Speaker 1: a game, but for a four quarter, just sustained guttural intensity,

489
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Speaker 1: all in fully emotional.

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Speaker 2: You know, choose any other cliche you want to.

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Speaker 1: This was it. This was the new benchmark, and it

492
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Speaker 1: sounded like it to me. So what's going on at Arkansas.

493
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Speaker 1: They're not parked in the top ten on national signing Day,

494
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Speaker 1: They're not pumping guys into the first round right now.

495
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Speaker 1: So what's going on on Arkansas? Well, here's what you

496
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: need to know, and this is where it extends well

497
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: beyond fayettbum One of the best lessons in college football

498
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Speaker 1: is being taught at Arkansas right now. And Sam Pittman,

499
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Speaker 1: the head coach there, for those unfamiliar, will not brag

500
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Speaker 1: on himself. He will only deflect praise to his roster.

501
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: The only time he's talking about himself is when he

502
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Speaker 1: shoulder and blame. But I'm going to brag for him

503
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Speaker 1: because this is a guy that has figured it out.

504
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Speaker 2: Arkansas's a university that has figured it out.

505
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Speaker 1: Culture. Everyone preaches it, so few places get it right.

506
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Speaker 1: The key to culture is it's built in layers. Game

507
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Speaker 1: by game, you know, quarter by quarter, but year by year.

508
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: But you add it in layers. It doesn't all come

509
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: at once. But what has to happen. You can go

510
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Speaker 1: about it different ways. It has to be built around

511
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Speaker 1: a core of authenticity, and a lot of times it

512
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter which kind of layers you add. You don't

513
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Speaker 1: have a core of authenticity because a lot of folks

514
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Speaker 1: just aren't authentic. A lot of folks are frauds. You

515
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Speaker 1: can be a good football coach and be a total

516
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Speaker 1: fraud as a person. We've seen it before. Sam Pittman

517
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Speaker 1: is the inverse of that. But what happens is you

518
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Speaker 1: get a guy in there that could grease bores you

519
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: to death, and he can chalk talk you to death.

520
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Speaker 1: But he's not authentic and he's not relatable, and he

521
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Speaker 1: doesn't blend in with the culture there, and so you're

522
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: trying to oil and water your way to success and

523
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work. Sam Pittman is Arkansas. It's not velcro.

524
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Speaker 1: They're like cemented. There is not one and the other.

525
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 1: They are one. You have a core built around a

526
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Speaker 1: guy and a culture that is as purely authentic as

527
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Speaker 1: any place in college football. That's why it's working. That's

528
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Speaker 1: why all the layers are sticking. And so now another

529
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Speaker 1: layer got added yesterday, this big win over Texas. This

530
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: meant the world to Arkansas. Some of you were too

531
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Speaker 1: young to understand. I'm too young to have lived it,

532
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: but I know history, at least of this sport. I

533
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: know history. There was a time where what happened last

534
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: year to Arkansas in the Auburn game, and by that

535
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean having a game ripped from their clutches that

536
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Speaker 1: they had earned, that used to happen against Texas in

537
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: the Southwest Conference. That used to happen Texas folks know it.

538
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Some of them would even brag about it. This meant

539
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Speaker 1: everything to Arkansas, and I'm telling you what it was

540
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Speaker 1: was it was an early warning sign, you know, to Texas.

541
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff's overblown, but it was an

542
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Speaker 1: early warning sign that when you come over here, when

543
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Speaker 1: you finally do make the jump, you could win over here.

544
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Speaker 1: But this is what it's like pretty much every week Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I mean most people would call them a middle of

546
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Speaker 1: the pack SEC program. Well, it was a knife fight

547
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Speaker 1: for Texas last night, and they came out on the

548
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: wrong end. They finished second place in the knife fight.

549
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Speaker 1: Last night. But also what it was is whether you

550
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Speaker 1: believe in this or not. A lot of people do

551
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Speaker 1: believe in it, so very least if it's a mirage,

552
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: we can erase the mirage of home cooking, of things

553
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: being tilted in Texas favor. Again. Modern day, I think

554
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: a lot of that's overblown. But back in the SWC

555
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: days that was not overblown. And so Arkansas folks, they

556
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of frustration. I don't even think four

557
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: quarters was enough, but they would have beaten that pinata

558
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: last night, well into the early hours of the morning,

559
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: long after the candy had been strown all over the place.

560
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: But man, Arkansas has got the cultural fit figured out.

561
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Speaker 1: And Sam Pittman, like I told you last week, is

562
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Speaker 1: a guy that not only will his players and staff

563
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: go to the cliff, they'll go over the cliff for him.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what it reminded me of last night.

565
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: When you watch Arkansas right now, you don't see him

566
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: in the top ten on National Signing Day. Yet they're

567
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: not pumping guys into the first round of the draft.

568
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: But yet they're beating teams you don't think they're supposed

569
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: to beat. And it reminds me of what can happen

570
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: when you get culture right, and guys will go over

571
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 1: a cliff for you, and they'll just all stick their

572
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: face and the fan and they don't care about the consequences.

573
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Speaker 1: That's how much they're bought in. That's how authentic the

574
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Speaker 1: culture is. That's how much culture matters. It's not quantifiable,

575
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Speaker 1: it's not something you can draw on a stat chet,

576
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: but it matters. Think Michigan State with Mark D'Antonio when

577
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Speaker 1: they were at their best, how hard it was for

578
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and Ohio State against those guys. Think Auburn

579
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: at various points as long as Nick Saban's been at Bama,

580
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: that place has had its moments where Obama's been far

581
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: superior roster wise and couldn't get it done against Auburn.

582
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what people think, What Bama

583
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: fans think when they watch Auburn, what Texas fans thought

584
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: last night when they were watching Arkansas, and what Buckeye

585
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: fans thought in the past at times when they were

586
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: watching Michigan State. Why won't you just lay down? Why

587
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: won't you know your role? We're better than you, we're

588
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: more talented, we got more future. First round draft picks.

589
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: We are superior, we're favored, We're supposed to win. Why

590
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: won't you just do what you're supposed to do and

591
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: lay down? They won't.

592
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Speaker 2: It gets really aggravating to watch.

593
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: Now. No one says that out loud because it makes

594
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: you sound like some words I can't say on air

595
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: right now. But that's what you're thinking. You're thinking, you're

596
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: just Arkansas. Okay, it's nice you tried for a little while.

597
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: Sit down, They're not gonna sit down. This is the

598
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: jello to the you're not nailing it to the wall.

599
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: And so last night, Texas, you watch them last night

600
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: and then you compare them to the emotion and the

601
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: body language and the energy from Arkansas. There was no

602
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: comparison because one of them is built on a foundation

603
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: of culture that is rich and it's going the place

604
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: that needs to go. And then the other place they're

605
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. Now, this is not

606
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: an apples to apples, sar. It's been there five minutes.

607
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: This is Pittman's second year, and so you know, the

608
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: roots have been able to take a little bit more there.

609
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: But I wish more places would learn from this. South

610
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Carolina's trying it right now. South Carolina watched what Arkansas

611
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: did and they saw the immediate result. They saw the

612
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: immediate return. Last year, Arkansas was better than they were

613
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be. They got culture figured out. South Carolina's

614
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: trying to do it. They hired a guy in Shane

615
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Beemer that much like Sam Pittman, doesn't feel like he'd

616
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: be a fit anywhere else, But it doesn't matter. That's

617
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: the uniqueness of college football. My fit could be a

618
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: duck out of water at your place in the NFL.

619
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Speaker 2: A job's a job.

620
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: In college football, it's more than a job. It's about

621
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: blending in with the culture. And Sam Pittman fits perfectly.

622
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: He is a puzzle piece fitting into fate of Arkansas.

623
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: Hopefully Beemer is that. But there are a lot of

624
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: places out here that are in need or are about

625
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: to be in need. Wink wink, that could learn from

626
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: the criteria that Arkansas used. And it also goes back

627
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: to that underrated question. All the time in college football,

628
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: you lose a game, or you finish four and six

629
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: or four and eight or whatever in a season, and

630
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: everyone wants to ask, well, if not now, then when

631
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: they're about to ask this at Nebraska. If they fire

632
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Scott Frost, well, if not him, then who the next guy?

633
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: The next guy? Trey Biddy, who is over at howgsports

634
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: dot com. He does a feature after every Arkansas game.

635
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: It's called Walk and Talk, and it's really good feature.

636
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I always watch it after Arkansas games. He did the

637
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: best one, in my opinion, he's ever done last night.

638
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: And all it is is he's got the softy stick.

639
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: I actually don't know what equipment he's using. Anyway, He's

640
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: walking literally outside the stadium and he's just talking.

641
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube. It's on there right now.

642
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: If you want to go watch it, I would strongly

643
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: encourage you, even I'm not an Arkansas fan, go watch

644
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: it because he gets it and he was explaining how

645
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: people there get it. But what he did was he

646
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: laid out all these upsets and all the embarrassment, like

647
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: when Western Kentucky came in there and won a few

648
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: years ago, all of that, and he said tonight was

649
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: so emotional because the context was key. We were remembering

650
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: all that and then looking that after we hired these guys,

651
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: these hot shot former coordinators, up and coming head coaches,

652
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. We hired a guy that

653
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: no one else wanted, Sam Pittman. No one even so

654
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: much as gave it a second thought. People looked and said, oh,

655
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I guess Arkansas has just resigned themselves to reality. And

656
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: the guy no one else wanted is the one that's

657
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: in the process of resurrecting the program. That is it.

658
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I would encourage you to go watch that. It's about

659
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes long, but he really laid it out. It's

660
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: a fun feature. But that's the answer for a lot

661
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: of these places, Nebraska and elsewhere. They're going to ask, well,

662
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: if not now, if not him, then who the next guy?

663
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Because I can guarantee you one thing. While some Arkansas

664
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: fans who have proper perspective may have remembered the bad

665
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: times last night as they were celebrating the good times,

666
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: at no point did it temper the excitement. At no point,

667
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: after one of several touchdowns they scored against Texas yesterday,

668
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: did any Arkansas fan golf clap and say, yeah, but

669
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, after that Western Kentucky lost a few years ago,

670
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to get excited about the program.

671
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: That'd be stupid. No one thinks like that. You only

672
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: have to get it right once. Doesn't matter how many

673
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: screw ups. Just keep swinging, just keep chopping. As long

674
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: as you eventually get it right, no one cares. No

675
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: one's thinking about the past now. In fact, it makes

676
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: you appreciate it the present all that much more when

677
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: things are good because you've had some lean years, which

678
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: Arkansas had. But kJ Jefferson man our quarterbacks continuing to grow.

679
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: They followed roughly the kind of game plan we thought

680
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: they would if they were going to pull the upset.

681
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: He ran the ball, did kJ Jefferson early and often.

682
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: Next up, Arkansas has Georgia Southern. I'm not crazy about

683
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: the opponent. I'm not crazy about the placement right there,

684
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: sandwich between Texas and A and M, a game which

685
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: we are strongly considering going to in Dallas in two weeks,

686
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: by the way, but they're favored by I think about

687
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. So same question for Sam Pittman. This is

688
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: not a flawless team. Please don't mistake me. Please don't

689
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: make the mistake of ranking Arkansas in the top ten

690
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: this week. Arkansas is a good team that is rapidly improving.

691
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Do not make the mistake, as we've all been prone

692
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: to do in the past of overrating them right now

693
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: and then having them lose a game or two, which

694
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: they're going to do. They're not at that level yet.

695
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: This is still a process, still a work in progress.

696
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Don't rate them high, have them lose a game, and

697
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: then trash them. It's not the way you should be

698
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: handling this program. This is not a top ten team yet,

699
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: but it is a team that is better today than

700
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: they were this time last week. And they were better

701
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: this time last week than there were two weeks ago.

702
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: That is called week over week improvement, and that's the

703
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: hallmark of an improving program led by the right man.

704
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: So it's a very very intriguing program right now. If

705
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: you've got some stock out there you want to buy,

706
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Arkansas is a program to buy. Listen Texas right now.

707
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: By the way they and by they, I mean Steve Sarkisian,

708
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: they entered into what I thought was not worst case scenario,

709
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: but it was a threat, and it was a fear

710
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: I had for them, and that is choosing a quarterback

711
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Hudson card and then getting into the season, and because

712
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: they're just not loaded for bear yet, they are not

713
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: fully prepared to run everything.

714
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: Sark wants to run.

715
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: They had what I call crowbar and the spokes threat

716
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: about them, and that's an all or nothing, feast or

717
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: famine sort of deal. Last week when Texas played Louisiana,

718
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: they were eight for ten on third down passing.

719
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: That's not sustainable.

720
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: And so while it was good for last week's result,

721
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I kind of tried to warn you on this program,

722
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: there's going to come a time where they don't execute

723
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: at that level. And what happens in an offense like

724
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: that where everything is built on precision precision. Mac Jones

725
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: played good enough to win his first NFL game today

726
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: cause he exercises that talent precision. If you don't have it,

727
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: then you don't slow down. It is crowbar into the

728
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: bicycle spokes and you just fly over the handlebars. You

729
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: don't slow down. It just grinds to a halt. And

730
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: that's what happened yesterday. There were some really really bad

731
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: numbers in that game. Texas had one hundred and eighteen

732
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: total passing yards in this game yesterday, so it was bad.

733
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: But now moving forward, they yanked Hutson card in that

734
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: game too late, according to many, and they brought in

735
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Casey Thompson and they popped a couple of scores. Now,

736
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: you could argue that's after the game was already out

737
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: of reach, or you could argue it should have been

738
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: done a little bit sooner to try and salvage a

739
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: game which Texas still technically had a shot to win.

740
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: The bottom line is we're two games into the season.

741
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: There's a long way to go. And now after you lose,

742
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: what did we talked about throughout the entirety of fall camp.

743
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: When they lose is when it'll get real. As long

744
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: as you win, even people who disagreed with your initial

745
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: quarterback decision, they're not going to chirp, they're not going

746
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: to run their mouth.

747
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: No one runs their mouth when you're winning.

748
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: But now they lost convincingly, and so they got to

749
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: get ready for rice. Number one rule on the show,

750
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: better not lose to food. So you got rice coming up.

751
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: But then it gets real in a hurry. They got

752
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Texas Tech at TCU Oklahoma, Oklahoma stead it does not

753
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: get any easier. They got a treacherous Big twelve schedule,

754
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: and now you've got people questioning your decision making it quarterback,

755
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: and it doesn't necessarily limit itself to just fans or media.

756
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: It could be in your locker room.

757
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking firsthand now, I'm speaking purely hypothetically. That's

758
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: the biggest threat for young coaching staffs. Make a decision.

759
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't immediately produce fireworks and people start questioning you,

760
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: because that is the natural tendency of human beings. But

761
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: Goodwin Man, Congratulations for Arkansas. Really happy for those folks.

762
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: As I tweeted last night, if I do not see

763
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: an Arkansas game in person this year, I will consider

764
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: it a personal failure. So we are working on that

765
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: even as we speak. Let's move on. We cannot dance

766
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: around this forever. And you know what I'm talking about.

767
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. Florida State lost

768
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville State yesterday. That's where we begin, and now

769
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: let's go from there. Twenty to seventeen was the final.

770
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to recall a worse moment in dope Campbells

771
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Stadium history. It is hard to recall a worse moment

772
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: in Florida State football history, at least in the modern era.

773
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: And I was reading a lot of folks who cover

774
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: this team for a living and they were kind of

775
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: echoing the same sentiment. If there was a worse moment,

776
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: we don't remember it. Six days after taking Notre Dame

777
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to overtime in the season opener, we watched Jacksonville State

778
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: plant a flag on Chief Aziola's face at midfield in

779
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: Dote Campbell Stadium. If that doesn't explain the volatility of

780
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: college football better than anything, I don't know. What does

781
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: that really happened last night? A lot of you weren't

782
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: watching this that actually happened. So what happened exactly? Well,

783
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: they got beat that's the first thing that happened. And

784
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't some freak turnover fest or a bunch of

785
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: special teams scoring. They just got beat by Jacksonville State.

786
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: But to put a finer point on it, I'm assuming

787
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: you guys have seen the ending of this game. But

788
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: if you have not seen the ending of this game,

789
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: I don't think I've said unconscionable on the show this year.

790
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: I was waiting for a moment like this, Something flat

791
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: out unconscionable happened at the end of this Florida State

792
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville State game. There were six seconds left in the ballgame. Okay,

793
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: you're watching the play right now. That is the last

794
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: play of this game. If you're listening on podcasts, just

795
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: be glad you're not watching six seconds left, Jacksonville State's.

796
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: On their own forty one yard line.

797
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Norvell apparently in the postgame claims they're in cover two

798
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 1: man under which I guess is to prevent them getting

799
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a field goal arrange, which they would have needed twenty

800
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: five to thirty more yards just to do. And oh,

801
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: by the way, there's still the threat of actually giving

802
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: something up over the top and losing the game. The

803
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: effort or lack thereof for several trailing defenders not to

804
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: mention the guys who were in position for the third

805
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: time in this show so unconscionable. If I were a

806
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: former Florida State player, forget fan, and forget booster administrator,

807
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: it would have been a good thing if I wasn't

808
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: at the game. Like That's the kind of stuff some

809
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: of those old school Miami or Florida State players when

810
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: they watch the current guys play like that, a lot

811
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: of times it can.

812
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Get really ugly behind the scenes.

813
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Because those guys back in the day took a ton

814
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: of pride in wearing that garnet and gold or wearing

815
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: that you on the side of their helmet, and it's

816
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: really disgusting to, you know, for them to watch the product.

817
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's on the field these days.

818
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: I cannot begin to imagine some of those former secondary

819
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: players for Florida State watching the way this game ended.

820
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the furniture broken in the living rooms

821
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: all up and down the Florida Panhandle. But Mike Norvel afterwards,

822
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: this is where a lot of the rub has come

823
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: for Florida State fans. Mike Norvel had no answer. Really,

824
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: he had an answer, but it wasn't worth anything. I

825
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: could have given a better answer. I mean, my cousin

826
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: could have given a beat answer. Who's never coached a

827
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: game in his life. Your head coach at Florida State

828
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: being Marke Novelt, would have been a lot better off

829
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, I called the offensive plays here.

830
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I really wasn't dialed into what was happening. Now, that

831
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: in and of itself would have been inexcusable, but it

832
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: would have been better than what we heard, because what

833
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: we heard was a head coach, you know, last check,

834
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: that's the guy who's clear in everything. A head coach

835
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: stepped up and actually said he put his stamp of

836
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: approval on running cover two man with six seconds to

837
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: go in a game and the opponent on their own

838
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: forty one yard line. He signed off on that. That

839
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: stuff that would get you demoted on a high school

840
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I'm just telling you, you guys out there

841
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: in the football world, know that's true. And this is

842
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the head coach at a Power five, a former national

843
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: championship winner. In the last decade, this program has won

844
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: a national championship. And that's where it is right now.

845
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: This has obviously big impact short term and long term.

846
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: The short term is it throws your season into possibly

847
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: a tail spin. The long term is all the good

848
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: will you built up last week in the world of

849
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: recruiting could have possibly been erased.

850
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: I know that sounds herky jerky.

851
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: It is. It very much is because these are the extremes.

852
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: You save that reaction, the knee jerk reaction, only for

853
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: the most extreme of occurrences. This is the extreme. You

854
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: take a top ten team at least in AP ranking

855
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: to the very wire in overtime, and then you fall

856
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: to an FCS program and this is not a top

857
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: shelf FCS program. This year, guys, Jacksonville State got wood

858
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: shedded by UAB in Week one, I mean shut out,

859
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: wood shedded.

860
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: So this is not one of.

861
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: Those classic Jacksonville State teams that would compete in some

862
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Power five conferences. That's not them this year. And Florida

863
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: State it didn't really matter yesterday. So the short term

864
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: is the season. Who knows what happens now. But here's the.

865
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Problem with the long term.

866
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: The long term is what happened last week in front

867
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: of your eyes is Florida State almost won a big game.

868
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: And as I said on the program, it's not like

869
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: I've forgotten what I said.

870
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: It was a huge, huge win for them.

871
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Even though they lost on the field, it's a huge

872
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: win in other areas because recruits got to experience a

873
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: fully charged electric environment, but they got to witness a

874
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: product that looks like it's on its way and looks

875
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: like it's close and looks like with the addition of them,

876
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: it could be pushed over the top. Now, let me

877
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: tell you what happened this week. What happened this week

878
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: is rival staffs got in the ear of those recruits

879
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: and they said, I'm sure you had a good time,

880
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: but listen, a lot of what you saw is a mirage.

881
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: It's not gonna stick. You just watch.

882
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: You don't have to take my word for it. Wait

883
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: and see the rest of the season. You will not

884
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: get that result duplicated. And to put a finer point

885
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: on it, there are a lot of people out there

886
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: doubting the quality of this overall coaching staff. I'm telling you,

887
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you my opinion. I'm telling you this

888
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: is what we hear from the recruiting trail and from

889
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: folks in the industry. That's what's happening. Okay, Now you

890
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: totally hold it in your possession to prove that right

891
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: or wrong. And then last night weapons So let me

892
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: tell you what today consisted of. Today consisted of a

893
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: lot of rival staffs picking up the phone and typing

894
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: three words, told you so, and then set the phone down.

895
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: What are you going to do push back on it?

896
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: You can't because you know what they have. They have

897
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: the benefit of replay capability. All they got to do

898
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: is go watch. And so that's the long term. Here's

899
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: the problem. We were just talking about culture with Arkansas

900
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: and how they're building it the right way. Everyone hopes

901
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: they're building it the right way. I remember the first

902
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: time I ever took a ski trip in my junior

903
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: year of high school. We went out to winter Park, Colorado,

904
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: and they had just had a massive snowfall. It was

905
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: like one of the second or third biggest snowfalls in

906
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: the history of the Rocky Mountains, and the Rockies have

907
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: been there a long time, I'm told. And so they

908
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: were teaching us about avalanche protocol, and they were explaining

909
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: the science behind avalanches, and all that happens is you

910
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: get weaker layers of snow and then several more heavy,

911
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: compact layers of snow on top of it. And you know,

912
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: it makes sense, but that doesn't matter. What matters is

913
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: if you have a weak layer underneath, it's a recipe

914
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 1: for disaster because the more weight you put on top

915
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: of it, the closer you're getting to an avalanche happening.

916
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: And you have to build programs the right way. And

917
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: what happens when you get a layer like this is

918
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it terminally flaws.

919
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Your ability to keep building.

920
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: Now sounds that sounds hyperbolic, but it's not. You've seen

921
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: this happen before. You've seen some really bad stuff happen

922
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: that looks like it's gonna stunt the growth of a program,

923
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: but then some good stuff will come down the road.

924
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: But then when it crashes, it really crashes. I'm telling

925
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: you it's happened in the southern cal right now we're

926
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: about to talk about USC. USC has not been built

927
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: the right way. US. He's had some good moments though

928
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: US he played for the Pac twelve championship last year.

929
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: There's some heavier layers of snow. It's on top of

930
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: a layer that will not hold though, because it hasn't

931
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: been built the right way. And so when avalanche is

932
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: coming in Los Angeles, California, of all places, and it

933
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: could very well be that an avalanche is coming in Tallahassee, Florida.

934
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: I know this sounds like a much different tune than

935
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: last week. A lot's changed. The status quo has changed,

936
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: as Nicholas Cage's dad said, National Treasure Son, the status

937
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: quo has changed. This was a horrifically bad loss, very

938
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: well could be the worst in Florida state football history.

939
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even the craziest thing that happened on Saturday.

940
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: To let you know how crazy yesterday was in college football,

941
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling. The funeral procession continues here. Stanford forty

942
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: two Southern Col Twenty eight. Dare I say it was

943
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: not as close as the final score indicates. This game

944
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: was simmering all week. We did not break it down.

945
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: But when I was.

946
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: Talking to the guy that we do the model with

947
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: the data science as the unnamed enigmatic data scientist from

948
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: parts unknown, we were talking about this game, the model

949
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: did not necessarily peg it. It wasn't like it was

950
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: saying Bett Stanford, Bett Stanford. But it was so weird.

951
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: It was just sitting there at seventeen. Southern Cal is

952
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: favored by seventeen. Not quite the forty two point underdog

953
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Stanford was back in the day when they beat him

954
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: in oh seven. But Southern Cal is favored by seventeen,

955
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: and it wasn't really moving either, or you know the

956
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: backstory Southern Cal covered in week one.

957
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: They beat San Jose State.

958
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Meanwhile Stanford goes to Kansas State and they get beat

959
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: handedly and so there's just no life in the Stanford program.

960
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Everyone's questioning them all week. It's the second straight road

961
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: game to start the year, and then they go in

962
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: there and they just handle USC Stanford. I know it

963
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: sounds weird. This is where college football differs from a

964
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: lot of the other sports. I'm watching this game in

965
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: my hotel room last night, and the only thing I

966
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: can think is Stanford is doing Southern Cal favors that

967
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: they never even thought they needed. Southern Cal fans, some

968
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: of them have longed for this. The worst nightmare for

969
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: a college football fan, for an elite program, or a

970
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: program that has the capability of being elite, at least

971
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: for traditional power programs, the worst thing for the fan

972
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: base is floating in that nether region of well, we're

973
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: not good enough to win it, but we're not bad

974
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: enough to do anything. That's where Southern Col's kind of

975
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: been in the Clay Helton era, and Stanford did Southern

976
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: col fans a huge favor last night because they removed

977
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: the doubt. That's what they did. They pulled the veil back.

978
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: They showed you what was behind the curtain, and what's

979
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: behind the curtain is not something good enough for USC football.

980
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: I never rarely do I do that on this show

981
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: because I don't like doing that kind of show. I

982
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: don't do the hot seat stuff. It's most of the

983
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: time it's stupid, So I don't do that this is

984
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: not a hot seat, this is just a coaching staff

985
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: that's not good enough for USC.

986
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: I have made my feelings about USC well known.

987
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: This should be a perennial national championship contending program. It's

988
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: really hard when you think about this, because there's a

989
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: huge disconnect right now with USC. And to be honest

990
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: with you, I know a lot of the fan base

991
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: gets it.

992
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't think the administration out.

993
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: There and maybe some older Southern cow blue hair types

994
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: get it. There is a massive disconnect about Southern Cal

995
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: football right now between what the perception is for someone

996
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: thirty five, forty five, fifty five and older versus someone

997
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. Now, you may listen to that and

998
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: you may say, yeah, I know we've been down a

999
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: few years. No, someone my age or ten or twenty

1000
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: years older than me, they can remember one or several

1001
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: generations where Southern col ran college football for a period

1002
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: of time. When I was growing up, it was Matt Leiner,

1003
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: it was Reggie Bush, it was La it was Hollywood.

1004
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: It was celebrities all over the sideline. Last night. If

1005
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: you watched the luder portions of this game, you could

1006
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: have shouted your name in one end zone, and your

1007
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: buddy sitting one hundred and twenty yards away could have

1008
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: heard you clear as day. It was a ghost town.

1009
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: They were still playing the football game, and it was

1010
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: like a Marlins baseball game in the regular season back

1011
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: at the Joe Robbie days. You could count everyone in

1012
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: the stands. People who are seventeen years old, i e.

1013
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: The lifeblood of your program, ie recruits. They don't even

1014
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: remember a time where a usc were in college football.

1015
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: They're not old enough. That's how long it's been. That's

1016
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: a big problem. It's inexcusable that there should ever be

1017
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: a drought that long. This is not atmospheric science. You

1018
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: can get droughts that long ecologically. You totally control this.

1019
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: The administration there has it within their power to make

1020
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the right decisions in a sport that is so heavily

1021
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: tilted in your favor you almost have to try to

1022
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: screw it up. And yet here we are. Southern col

1023
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: can't get out of its own way. It can't take

1024
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: a leak without getting the front of its pants wet.

1025
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: And so now we're gonna watch them, with the most

1026
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: favorable schedule in the Pac twelve, South stumble to a

1027
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: finish that's well below standard. And now the only question

1028
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: is gonna be all year long as the cloud hangs

1029
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: over the program, when's it dropping and where's it gonna happen?

1030
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Or we're gonna wait to the end of the season,

1031
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: or we're gonna do the middle of the season. But

1032
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: at the very least, Stanford last night did a lot

1033
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: of USC fans a favor. And this is not anything

1034
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: that's even polarizing to say on the West Coast at

1035
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: this point, far far, four more people out there agree

1036
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: with what I'm saying than disagree. They finally did them

1037
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: the favor in removing the doubt. There are no two

1038
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: sides to this argument. Now, there is no fifty to

1039
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: fifty split of over here there's the pro Helton, here's

1040
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: this list of accomplishments. He's still doing a lot more

1041
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: right than he is wrong. Those people are few and

1042
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: far between, if you can find them at all. This

1043
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: is a mass consensus that something needs to be done,

1044
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: changes need to be made. Question becomes, as has often

1045
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: been the case out there, is there's still a disconnect

1046
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: between the fan base and the administration. And then the

1047
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: follow up to that is how hard are you going

1048
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: to press the issue.

1049
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: If you're a Southern Calfan.

1050
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: By that, I mean, how longer are you guys showing

1051
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: up to games? Because if they won't make the change,

1052
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: you do have the power. You do have one ace

1053
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: in your back pocket, and that is your money, and

1054
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: that's your attendance.

1055
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: You got to choke it away from him.

1056
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: That's why fairweather fans sometimes can be a gift. It

1057
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: can be a blessing in disguise, because the diehards sometimes

1058
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: trigger the sense that you can take them for granted,

1059
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: and you can take the fan base for granted. And

1060
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: it's a very admirable quality to stick with the team

1061
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: through thick and thin. But sometimes it is a perilous

1062
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: quality because when you know you have them in our

1063
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: world where they're called P one listeners, and sometimes misguided

1064
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: program directors or show hosts think they can take their

1065
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: P one audience for granted. You guys who watch every

1066
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: episode of Late Kick. If I were stupid, I would

1067
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: think I can take you for granted. You don't ever

1068
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: take anything for granted. You can't take anyone for granted.

1069
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: But at USC they think they can take you for granted,

1070
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: and anyone sitting in that stadium last night. Unless you're

1071
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: a parent of a player or you have some external

1072
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: attachment to the university, they think they can take you

1073
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: for granted, because if you're still sitting there at the

1074
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: end of that, then what's going to make you walk away?

1075
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Be very interesting to watch and see how Southern cow

1076
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: fans handle this and then in turn, how the administration responds.

1077
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: There are several more takeaways we're about to rattle through.

1078
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: It was a very busy night in college football, but

1079
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: it didn't have to start on Saturday, so I think

1080
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday of last week we ran the model and I

1081
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: was trying to get some more ram Noddle Express picks,

1082
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: and so we ran the model.

1083
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Got some picks coming up at the.

1084
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: End of the show, by the way, and one game

1085
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: stood out. And the game was a game where there

1086
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: was a seven point underdog, but our model said that

1087
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: the seven point underdog was gonna win outright. And who

1088
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: was it? Of all programs, it was the Vanderbolt Commodores

1089
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: who had just been thrashed at home against East Tennessee State.

1090
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: I think the score was like twenty three to three.

1091
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: They got beat by several touchdowns at home against an

1092
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: FCS opponent. So our model says, not only is Vandy

1093
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: gonna go to Colorado State and cover, they're just gonna

1094
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: win outright. Well, as you know, our old buddy, Barton

1095
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: Simmons is now the general manager of Vanderbolt Football. So

1096
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I did what I do. I picked up the eye Josh,

1097
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: and I texted Barton. And it wasn't an that I

1098
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: just texted him. I screenshotted it, as close friends often do,

1099
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: screenshot your personal private messages and then show them to

1100
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: the world. And I told Barton, you're gonna win Saturday.

1101
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: Do with that info what you will, And I said,

1102
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: The model says, twenty four to twenty two, This is

1103
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: a Vicky Valancourt special circle. Water Boy, ain't no guess

1104
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: that's how it's going to be. Vicky Valancourt once told

1105
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Lynn Swan that on the sideline in the middle of

1106
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: the Bourbon Bowl. I told Barton Simmons the same thing.

1107
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty two, the model said, Vanderbilt beats

1108
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Colorado State twenty four to twenty one. Last night, round

1109
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: of applause for the model. Heck of a job, great

1110
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: accomplishment by all, and Clark Lee's first win as a

1111
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: head coach at Vanderbilt, and so they played late last night.

1112
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: They probably just got back home. But with that in mind,

1113
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: that was the cap. I didn't go to bed last

1114
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: night until that game was over. But that was the

1115
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: cap on what was a wild day in college football.

1116
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: What happened elsewhere? Well, the game I was at was Iowa.

1117
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: Iowa State and the Hawkeys win twenty seven to seventeen.

1118
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: I'd love to do an extended breakdown on this, but

1119
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: it really isn't warranted. All you need to know is

1120
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: the padlock stat. Probably the most standout padlock stat in

1121
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: any major game yesterday was this one minus four turnovers

1122
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: for Iowa State, or alternately, you could say four turnovers

1123
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: forced by Iowa. However you want to look at that,

1124
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: No one's winning this game at minus four turnovers. It

1125
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: was a miracle that it was even a ten point

1126
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: game at d M. And So Kirk Ferrence is a

1127
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: veteran man. I mean, that's a prose pro. When it

1128
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: comes to college coaches, that is a prose pro. So

1129
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: there was no gimmick about Iowa yesterday, There was no hype.

1130
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: That was all on the cyclone side. I was a

1131
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: part of it.

1132
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 2: I participated actively willingly.

1133
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't crazy about the black jerseys, but I was gonna

1134
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: let it ride because that's your program, that's not my program.

1135
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: But red and yellow is a hard color combo to

1136
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: screw up.

1137
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: Jersey Colors didn't lose the game yesterday.

1138
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is Kirk Ferrence did something that is

1139
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: so veteran and so savvy. With all that hype, he

1140
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: just sat back and he watched it and he almost

1141
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: stroked his chin and said, against that veteran team in

1142
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: a hornet's nest of a stadium and game day in

1143
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: town and all the trappings, I'm gonna walk in there

1144
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna sit and wait for them to

1145
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: hand the game to us. We're not even gonna overly

1146
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: be aggressive. We're just gonna go in there and play

1147
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: our brand and they'll give us the game. And Iowa

1148
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: went in there and they took in retrospect, what was

1149
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: the most sound and shrewd approach that you could take

1150
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: in that game yesterday? They sat in Jack Trice Stadium

1151
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: and they just waited. They might as well to prop

1152
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: their foot up on their knee, and Iowa State turned

1153
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: it over and turned it over and turned it over

1154
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: and turned it over, and Iowa did just enough. I mean,

1155
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: there was a three point thirty nine to one seventy

1156
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: three yarda J edge in favor of the Cyclones. There

1157
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: was a four point eight to two point nine yards

1158
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: per play edge cyclones, and yet Iowa puts twenty seven

1159
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: on the board. Didn't even accumulate one hundred and eighty

1160
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: yards total offense, and they put twenty seven on the board.

1161
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: And so so now we have to ask about Iowa

1162
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: because this is two weeks in a row that turnovers

1163
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: and points off turnovers have led to emphatic wins, and

1164
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: you start to ask that question, is it sustainable? Do

1165
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: they just continue to do that all year long? I

1166
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: will tell you this, we have seen years where teams

1167
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: do that. They're not plus four every week, but we

1168
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: have seen years where teams finish plus ten or plus

1169
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: fifteen turnover margin. And it's just a staple of the

1170
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: formula that they use. Iowa plays good, complimentary ball. They're

1171
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: not fragmented. Everything works in unison on that team. And

1172
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: so now people are talking playoff. It's way premature to

1173
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: talk like that. They are a team that understands perfectly

1174
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: what their identity is they don't try and be anything

1175
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: they're not. They are, though a team that's very dangerous.

1176
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: And they'll sit there and they'll back themselves into a

1177
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: corner and then you'll start reaching in there and then

1178
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: they'll bite you. Don't reach. That's the secret. Don't reach.

1179
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: But it's really hard. I know, it's really tempting. So

1180
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: congratulations to Iowa. That was not an easy place to

1181
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: put yesterday, and they went in there and took control.

1182
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: There was never a time, there was never a time

1183
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: where Iowa State could fully get that crowd into it

1184
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: because there was never a time where they jumped ahead

1185
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: and grabbed momentum. There was never a time it happened.

1186
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: So congratulations to Iowa. Good trip though, it's the best

1187
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: trip I've taken. I've never been treated better than the

1188
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: folks both sides now treated me in Iowa. That was

1189
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: a great time yesterday.

1190
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 2: I'm very very.

1191
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: Much looking for an excuse to get back up there,

1192
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: Penn State at Iowa down the road. Who knows, Michigan

1193
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: thirty one, Washington ten. Let me tell you one thing

1194
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: you're not going to do. You will never this year,

1195
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: at least question the identity of Michigan's offense. It may

1196
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: not be the offense you all thought you would get

1197
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: when you hired Josh Gaddist a couple of years ago,

1198
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: but they've got an identity.

1199
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: Three touchdown win here. How about these numbers.

1200
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Forty four yards passing not a padlock stat because if

1201
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: I told you Michigan was going to have forty four

1202
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: through the air, you would have thought crushing defeat. Nope,

1203
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: because the follow up is three hundred and forty three

1204
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: on the ground. There was a fifteen to fifty six

1205
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: run to pass ratio in this game from Michigan. That's

1206
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: an identity. It's called sledgehammer. That's the identity. It's pretty obvious.

1207
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they said it in the broadcast last night.

1208
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious. At some point over the summer, Jim

1209
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Harbaugh went to Josh Gattison said, all these pass plays, Yeah,

1210
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: forget it. Here's what we're gonna do. It's like Herman Boone.

1211
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: I run six plays like Novacaine. Just give it time,

1212
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: it'll work. This was not an immediate pull away. It

1213
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: was a four quarter were you down, lean on you,

1214
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: eventually you crumble. I mean, I credit Washington for even

1215
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: standing up as much as they did. Washington's a good team,

1216
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: but you can't just keep getting pounded on like that.

1217
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. Washington's zero to two. Now they

1218
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: are one of my favorite teams this week. We're gonna

1219
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: do romin Middle Express in just a second. Washington's a

1220
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half point favorite against ARC State. Looks

1221
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: like a terrible line. We love Washington, love them this week.

1222
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: Horrible matchup for Arkansas State, the least of which is

1223
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: they have to fly to Olympia Washington. But we love

1224
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: Arkansas State. What we love watching over arcsas State this week.

1225
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a second. Pitt beats

1226
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee forty one to thirty four. I got some very

1227
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: interesting feedback on this game. You know, Colin. Director Colin

1228
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: is my resident Tennessee insider, so I always ask him

1229
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: what do I need to know about that Tennessee game?

1230
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: And I wanted to see if Director Colin was going

1231
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: to tell me what other Tennessee fans told me. Because

1232
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: I was obviously not at this game, I was not

1233
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: able to watch it live, but I was getting a

1234
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: lot of feedback and a lot of Tennessee fans that

1235
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm buddies with. They kept texting me, and they kept saying,

1236
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, eventually when they lost the game, we've lost

1237
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: the game. We hate that, blah blah blah. But there's

1238
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: a lot of encouragement. And that's rare because most of

1239
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: the time, the sky's falling when Tennessee loses, according to

1240
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: these guys, at least. So Colin walks in tonight and

1241
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: I asked him, how'd you feel. I know the final

1242
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: I know the outcome, we all know that. How did

1243
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: you feel? He said, you know, I mean, I hate losing,

1244
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: but like I liked a lot of what I saw.

1245
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: That was a theme yesterday. That's rare. I've wanted to

1246
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: point that out because you don't hear that most of

1247
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: the time from a losing side losing, but they're still

1248
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: encouraged by what they saw. They were down several players

1249
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: to start the game. They lost more players during the game.

1250
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Pitt's average age is like thirty, and so there was

1251
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: a roster advantage in favor of Pitt. Let me just

1252
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: say that what lost this game for Tennessee, as I

1253
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: went back and watched it is something I don't say

1254
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: very often. I really think officiating disproportionately impacted Tennessee in

1255
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: this game, but I'm not going to call that the

1256
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: reason they lost. Now, you could argue with me if

1257
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: we changed some calls here and there in a one

1258
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: possession game, maybe it changes the outcome. But when I

1259
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: look at stat Broadcast, which is a service we use,

1260
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: and I see thirteen penalties for over one hundred and

1261
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: thirty yards that lost you the game, I'm willing to

1262
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: guarantee it that lost you the game. So there is

1263
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: a lot in this sport that may be outside of

1264
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: your control. If a guy blows a call on you,

1265
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: he blows a call.

1266
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: But there was an old little league coach by the

1267
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: name of Dan.

1268
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: Pate that coached the Catola Mudcats back in the day,

1269
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: and we went one in fifteen our first year, but

1270
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: rattled off three consecutive league championships the year after. And

1271
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons, among many, is because we got

1272
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: taught Umpires or officials can only cost you a game

1273
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: if you put them in position to cost you a game.

1274
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: If you let an official break your heart, they will

1275
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: break your heart. Tennessee put the game in position for

1276
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: officials to break their heart, and they got their heart broken,

1277
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: but there was a lot of encouragement. There is a

1278
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: lot to build on. There's a long, long way to go,

1279
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: don't mistake me. It's not like they're on the precipice

1280
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: of something enormous. But there was some encouragement. And at

1281
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: the very least, like we said at the beginning of

1282
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: the year, when Tennessee loses games this year, they're going

1283
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: to go down with no bullets in the chamber. It's

1284
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: not going to be like a thirteen to nine rock

1285
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: fight where they get stopped inside the twenty yard line

1286
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: four times.

1287
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: This is not that kind of team anymore.

1288
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: So at the very least, when you lose, we thought

1289
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: this was what it was going to sound like. Yeah,

1290
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: we lost, but there were some encouraging signs. Now you

1291
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: got to build on it. I thought the most fascinating

1292
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: under the radar game of the entire week was being

1293
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: played in Lexington, Kentucky, and sure enough it delivered Kentucky

1294
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: thirty five Missouri twenty eight. Huge win, I think an

1295
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: underrated win right now in the East, but a huge

1296
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: win for Kentucky.

1297
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: And there is probably a difference.

1298
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: In what you think happened versus what really happened because

1299
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: there's a new perception about Kentucky, and that is they're

1300
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: going to throw it all over the place, and long term,

1301
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: I think they may be committed to that. But Mark

1302
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: Stoops is still one of the most veteran head coaches

1303
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: around and he understands that styles make fights and matchups

1304
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: are how you win games. And they looked at Missouri

1305
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: and they thought, we're gonna have to run the ball,

1306
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to run it a lot. And

1307
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: as much as I told you that Michigan Washington game

1308
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: was tilted in run pass, think about this Kentucky. You

1309
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: may think they threw the ball all over Missouri. A

1310
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: lot of you didn't watch this game. Eighteen runs fifty

1311
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: Let me reverse that. That's probably what you thought happened.

1312
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: They threw the ball eighteen times, they ran it fifty

1313
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: two times, three hundred and forty yards on the ground

1314
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: six point five per carry. That that's pretty heavily tilted.

1315
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: That's an identity in a game. But it's very important. Man.

1316
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: It's a huge win in the SEC East because you

1317
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: think you know how the East is gonna shake out,

1318
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: You think you know George is gonna win it.

1319
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win it.

1320
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: You think you know Florida will finish runner up, but

1321
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: you don't know that because I think there's a I mean,

1322
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: there's a gap there right now, and so there is

1323
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: probably some competition to be had at that number two spot. Now.

1324
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: Florida has a very high ceiling on them. We've in

1325
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: a lot of ways still yet to see it this year.

1326
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: Very excited about Anthony Richardson, very excited. Notice the quarterback's

1327
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: name I mentioned is not QB one right now, but

1328
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: for all we know, as I said last week, the

1329
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: winner of this game could end up finishing second in

1330
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: the East. Crazier things have happened, and in a renaissance

1331
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: year which we are very much in the throes of.

1332
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: Just keep this game in mind, is all I'm saying.

1333
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: Texas A and M one against Colorado that was expected.

1334
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Winning with ten points was not expected. True story here yesterday,

1335
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm on the sideline at the Iowa State game, and

1336
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: as is usually the case, during the commercial breaks, they're

1337
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: scrolling scores over the banners and the ribbon screens and

1338
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: the scoreboard, and the A and M game keeps popping

1339
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: up and it says seven to three Colorado fourth quarter.

1340
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: Then it said ten to seven A and M. Fourth quarter.

1341
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: The assumption on the sideline amongst all the assembled media

1342
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: and everyone else is that scores messed up. All the

1343
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: rest of them look right, but there's a glitch in

1344
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: the A and M score. We don't really know what

1345
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: the score is. That was the assumption. I agreed, that's

1346
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: how off this game was. It was right, there was

1347
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: no glitch. So good to the tech crew in ames Iowa.

1348
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: They had the right score up. Ten to seven was

1349
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: the final. A and M was favored by seventeen. There

1350
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: were seventeen total points scored in the game. Crazy. Obviously

1351
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: there were some extenuating circumstances here. Haines King went down

1352
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for A and M. Does not look like

1353
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: he'll be able to go this week. That's not official,

1354
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: at least as of recording. But there's a lot of

1355
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: doom and gloom. But I want to say something. There

1356
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: is value in winning a game. Now. Don't think there's not.

1357
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: I know that. I say a lot of times, you're

1358
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: more than just what your record says you are. But

1359
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: you better win these. And there was a time a

1360
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: few years back in twenty fourteen. I remember Alabama won

1361
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: one of the ugliest games from anesthetic standpoint in the

1362
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: Nick Saban era. They beat Arkansas fourteen to thirteen. And

1363
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: you've heard Saban this week. He's aggravated about everything when

1364
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: they're blowing folks out. I've never heard Nick Saban more

1365
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: demonstrative in his defense of his team than when they

1366
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: won fourteen thirteen, because he knew they had won an

1367
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: ugly game, they had won a game in a different

1368
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: style than they were used to winning, and he was

1369
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: proud of them because.

1370
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: You got to be able to do that. You don't win.

1371
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: You don't win with your fastball fourteen or fifteen games

1372
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: in a row. You've got to have secondary pitches. You

1373
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: got to have tertiary pitches. Well, Alabama won with their

1374
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: change up that day, Texas A and M yesterday one

1375
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: with their cut fastball. They won with their slider. They

1376
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: had to do something else. This is not a Marque opponent.

1377
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: It was not a Marquee game. It was awful lot

1378
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: of radars. They found a way to win a game,

1379
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: and that's what matters. And they did it with a

1380
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in Zach Calzada, and that's the guy they'll

1381
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: probably have to roll with. This week, they're playing New

1382
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Mexico and that's the last game they have before they

1383
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: enter conference play against Arkansas in two weeks in Dallas.

1384
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: Very much bears watching because I think Texas A and

1385
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: M is one of my favorite teams This week too.

1386
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: I love playing on teams when the quarterbacks out. I

1387
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: love it. It has been a staple of this program.

1388
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: We have profited extremely well off of playing on backup quarterbacks.

1389
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: More on that in a second.

1390
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to show you I have

1391
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: not wrapped my head around it yet. There's stuff that

1392
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: happens in college football. It would only happen in this sport.

1393
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: Look at that lower third. I gotta know who. I

1394
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: got to know who came up with that. Afterwards, I

1395
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: am not creative enough to come up with the lower third,

1396
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: which says, by the way, Miami beats app State by

1397
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: a whisker. I know goodwell most of you weren't watching

1398
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: this game yesterday and I wasn't either. There was an

1399
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: occurrence that happened in this game that I swear to

1400
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: you could only happen in college football. This would never

1401
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: happen in Euro soccer. It would never happen in NASCAR,

1402
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: it would never happen in Major League Baseball or NFL.

1403
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: There's just some stuff that happens in the sport that

1404
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: is so unique to college football it almost brings a

1405
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: tear to your eye. And so the scene yesterday, I've

1406
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: got the video for you because I would not blame

1407
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: you if you didn't believe me if I just described

1408
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: this to you. In the middle of the Miami app

1409
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: State game yesterday, there is a cat that is hanging

1410
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: from the upper deck by its claws. You're looking at

1411
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: it right now. That is a live cat hanging and

1412
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: then the cat let's go with one claw remaining. And

1413
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: then the cat plummets to what looks like a certain death,

1414
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: except there are guys because of nine to eleven with

1415
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: an American flag draped out, and they catch it like

1416
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: a rescue net. This is the best part. Then the

1417
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: guy who caught the cat stends him above the mob

1418
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: like Simba and the Lion King, and the place explodes.

1419
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: They went crazy like Miami had just scored a walk

1420
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: off touchdown. Guys, the game's happening. This is not a

1421
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: commercial break. The game's happening on the field. And this

1422
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: cat is dangling by one claw and then the cat drops.

1423
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: Look at everybody. They caught him with an American flag.

1424
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: And then the guy doesn't know what to do, and

1425
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: so what else do you do other than raise him

1426
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: like Simba, like the lion king. Look at those people

1427
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: jumping up and down. Where else does that happen? What

1428
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: other sport does that happen in? That's the most bizarre,

1429
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: surreal but makes perfect sense video that you could ever

1430
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: show someone that is a stranger to college football to

1431
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: describe college football? Do you understand that as this was happening,

1432
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: Southern Miss was playing a game. I kid you not.

1433
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: Most of you probably don't know this.

1434
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: They had to shut down one of the tunnels at

1435
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: the Southern Miss game cause a lady had a baby

1436
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: in the tunnel right there, had a baby in the stadium.

1437
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you rework the attendance figures. I

1438
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions, to be honest with you,

1439
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: about having the baby in the stadium. But they had

1440
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: a cat almost feelin I don't know what we would

1441
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: call that. It's a rescue, that's what it was. It

1442
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: was a God bless America rescue because an American flag

1443
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: was used in lieu of an actual safety net, and

1444
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: then we had a lady gift birth. What a renaissance here.

1445
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: It is indeed in college football. So that was what

1446
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: they told you was going to be a sleeper week. Yeah,

1447
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: that was the week you could go and have your

1448
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: fall wedding. Well, no, that's a trick question, because you

1449
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: can never have a fall wedding at the right Saturday.

1450
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Let's wrap it up here.

1451
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Rob a Nettle Express goes three and two Jue chuw

1452
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: And we have got three best bets already. Normally we

1453
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: do one on Sunday, but I have three games that

1454
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: I really need to jump on. These are going to

1455
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: require bravery on your part because they require betting on

1456
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: injured quarterbacks two of them actually. So let's take a

1457
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: look at what we're rolling with. I already tweeted these out.

1458
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: It is imperative that you were following on Twitter and

1459
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: Instagram at late kick, Josh. Some of these numbers have

1460
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: already moved. We're taking Texas A and M twenty five

1461
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: and a half against New Mexico. It is very important

1462
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: you get on that number early. Penn State welcomes Auburn.

1463
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: We will be at this game in Happy Valley. That

1464
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,959
Speaker 1: is our Renaissance tour destination for week three. Penn State

1465
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: minus four and a half, we're taking them. Our number

1466
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: says seven point three, so we think the numbers a

1467
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: little low, just a little over correction this past week.

1468
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: And Nevada is at Kansas State. You've got plus two

1469
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: and a half and plus three out there. Kansas State

1470
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: lost Thompson, their quarterback. You probably think that I don't

1471
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: know that by putting the number up, I do know

1472
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: that this is not even going to be the first

1473
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 1: time that we've bet on Kansas State without that quarterback.

1474
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: So independent of what you think about their quarterback depth,

1475
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: I tell you either follow all these or follow none

1476
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: of them. We know what we're doing. It's not a

1477
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: guaranteed winner, it's not a lock or anything. We know

1478
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: what we're doing with that number. Kansas State plus two

1479
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: and a half, Penn State minus four and a half,

1480
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: a and m minus twenty five and a half. And

1481
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: I got to get out of here because we've gone

1482
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: well over an hour. Hey, this was not an easy

1483
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: show to put together. Hats off to our crew in

1484
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale. There was a lot of spider webery to

1485
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: work through, as there usually is this time of year,

1486
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: so hats off to them, Hats off to director Colin.

1487
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: Make sure you were following again Twitter and Instagram. We

1488
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: had more of our secret Friday night, can't tell management

1489
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: about it gambling chat on Instagram Live had record viewership

1490
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: on that. The liens once again performed very well, which

1491
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: makes you wonder why don't I hand out the liens

1492
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: instead of the actual picks. Everything did good.

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Speaker 2: This week on the Ramnul Express.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're following. Huge week coming up. Cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to be at Penn State Auburn this Saturday. Until then,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a busy week. Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate for our entire crew. Have a great

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Speaker 1: start to your weekend. God bless