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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: You're right on top of this. You're the top in

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Speaker 2: the ballgame of it all. And you can talk so

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Speaker 2: kindly and so much in layman's terms, and even if,

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Speaker 2: like if I get stuck with some something that I

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Speaker 2: just can't understand, you are right there to try to

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Speaker 2: help me to understand it. So to be a patient

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Speaker 2: of yours must have been just a wonderful thing for people.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate those kind words, and it's really true, Connie.

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Speaker 3: We measure patient satisfaction and for a solid year we

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Speaker 3: were at the ninety nine percentile on all questions I ask.

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Speaker 3: So it's not only excellence and cancer care. I try

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Speaker 3: to provide every day for my patients, but we also

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Speaker 3: provide it compassionately and that just makes such a big

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Speaker 3: difference when you're in any kind of cancer treatment environment.

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Speaker 2: Well tell me where you are, now, what do you

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Speaker 2: what's your work right now?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Right now, I'm hanging out in Georgetown, Kentucky. That's

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Speaker 3: where we live. Connie, You like this. I thought I

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Speaker 3: was going to retire. I've been practicing radios ontology for

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Speaker 3: thirty seven years and while came here and got bored

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Speaker 3: and decided to go back to practice again, working full time.

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Speaker 3: And I think part of that is I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love helping people, and especially in this modern era, Connie,

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Speaker 3: we're curing more people than was ever possible before. And

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Speaker 3: we'll get into that, but the exciting thing about cancer

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Speaker 3: care today is that we are able to treat patients

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Speaker 3: with modern cancer approaches that have less side effects, less

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Speaker 3: risk for long term problems or complications, if you will,

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Speaker 3: and yet we're able to cure more people than we

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Speaker 3: certainly could I think even ten years ago. So exciting

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Speaker 3: times to be involved in treating cancer.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that, but I'm sure there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of other people out there that are that they

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Speaker 2: didn't get that chance. You know that they know someone

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Speaker 2: close to them that they didn't get that chance of

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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. And I know you have dealt

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Speaker 2: with so much of this, and that's why you are

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Speaker 2: also one of the leaders in the near death experiences,

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Speaker 2: because you've been right there and you've been open enough.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the things I really love about you, too,

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Speaker 2: is not only are you on top of your game,

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Speaker 2: but you're also open enough to the things that we

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Speaker 2: discuss here on Coast to Coast of what's afterwards, and

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Speaker 2: you you're open to that. A lot of people are

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Speaker 2: not in your field.

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Speaker 3: You know that's true. But the good news is people

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Speaker 3: are more and more open to my interest in near

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Speaker 3: death experiences and good like Bigfoot and a lot of

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Speaker 3: paranormal things. Connie, I think due to a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot more information available to the public, not only

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Speaker 3: in cancer, but also in the paranormal arena, you've got

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Speaker 3: more people believing in these paranormal phenomena who would have

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Speaker 3: poo pooted, say, ten twenty years ago. Certainly Coast to

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Speaker 3: Coast am has got a lot of critic for that.

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Speaker 3: Bringing information out to the world, new and exciting information.

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Speaker 3: It helps people understand the reality of these phenomena.

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Speaker 2: Well. One of the things, thank goodness, one of the

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Speaker 2: things that I had asked you about with the cancer

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Speaker 2: me the just educate us on the past, very briefly,

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Speaker 2: because I think everybody wants to get into the president

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Speaker 2: and the future, and you're ahead of the game on that.

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Speaker 2: But before you even do that, I'm gonna throw something

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Speaker 2: wherever you want to answer it. It might be quickly.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things whenever I mention anything like this,

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Speaker 2: there's always the people, especially the people that listen to Coast.

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Speaker 2: I mean they, you know, they're not afraid to say this.

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Speaker 2: They say, look, they already have the cure to cancer.

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Speaker 2: It's just a money thing, and if they cure everybody,

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Speaker 3: That, Oh, Connie, I wish that were true. I wish

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Speaker 3: we had some simple, effective care for all types of cancer.

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Speaker 3: I could told you something else professionally, but unfortunately that

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Speaker 3: does not exist. There's cancer, first of all, is not

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Speaker 3: there are literally hundreds of different types of cancer, and

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Speaker 3: an estimated six hundred thousand deaths. So cancer is a

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Speaker 3: huge problem. But the good news is with modern techniques validated,

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Speaker 3: But you were asking about the history of cancer, and

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Speaker 3: that's fascinating. For example, the very first cancer diagnosis that

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Speaker 3: was documented was three thousand BC in the ancient Egyptians.

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Speaker 3: They're recorded what we now know to be breast cancer.

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Speaker 3: So cancer and our awareness of it as is humanity

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Speaker 2: So what about like, yeah, there's just so much to

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Speaker 2: is cancer? And is this what? Ultimately it's just a

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Speaker 2: very is it a very natural thing? And hey, we're all.

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Speaker 2: We all know we're naturally going to die, and this

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Speaker 2: and we gave it a name. Or is this something

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Speaker 2: that we've done to ourselves? How do we get this

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Speaker 2: is something that we've done to our to the human race.

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. In a real sense, You're right,

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Speaker 3: cancer is, if you will, natural, it's our own bodily

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Speaker 3: cells that just divide uncontrollably and invade adjacent normal tissues

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Speaker 3: ultimately starts that what's called the cellular DNA. The DNA

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Speaker 2: Is it in the future, is there a way to

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Speaker 3: We absolutely, we're getting better and better at targeting what

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Speaker 3: And some of our modern targeted therapy is actually able

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Speaker 2: So we're all going to go at one point, we're

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Speaker 2: So it is it just uh, is it kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not really inevitable. It's a big problem though.

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Speaker 3: selectively kill cancer. And that's the fundamentally what we do

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Speaker 3: we see patients getting both chemotherapy and radiation therapy, it's

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Speaker 3: amazing enheartening to me how they describe how few side

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Speaker 3: that's just part of the ongoing modern techniques where are

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