1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Wednesday edition of Play in Buck starts 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: right now. Thanks for being with us from all over 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the US of a big news, my friends. Oh, we 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: were talking about it yesterday. We had a feeling and 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: the folks of Chicago have had a moment a burst 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: of sanity as Lorie Lightfoot how possibly the worst mayor 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: play right? I think worst mayor? We could say it 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: is soon to be the former mayor of Chicago. A 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: crushing defeat from seventy three percent of the vote in 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: her election win to getting seventeen percent of the vote. Now, 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: granted there was a pretty big field, but you would 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: think the sitting mayor could do better than less than 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: a fifth of the overall vote. Chicago, you're coming back 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: to sanity Land and we welcome you, which is great. 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: We'll just dicus more of this. Of course, big big 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: loss for the progressive prosecutor week on crime. Let's just 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: blame the cops left. You know. That's because that's been 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: at the center of Lightfoot's time as mayor, and it 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: was also how she ascended to the mayor's office in 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: the first place, and Clay will explain in a couple 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: of moments here what she's blaming for her loss spoiler alert, 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: not her incompetence as mayor, just gonna put that out there. 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: That's yeah, I think you might know where this is going. Also, 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: really interesting breakdown in the Washington Post about the debate 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: in advance of the marl Lago document raid. Remember that, 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: remember the FBI, the guys and windbreakers, FBI Special Agent 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Johnny Utah, they showed up and they seized those records 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: at mar Lago, and we were saying, this is outrageous. 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: It was outrageous. And from the reporting in the Washington Post, 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: which Clay and I've both believe comes from direct FBI 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: sources who wanted to get this on the record, they 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: knew it was outrageous. They knew that there was a 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: political impetus behind all. We'll break that down for you. 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Two important stuff going on there. Also being joined by 36 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Banks of Indiana and the second hour of 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the program, who's going to tell you all a bit 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: about this hearing they're having on China and what to 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: do about it. It's looking like they made band TikTok, 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: which Clay Where am I going to learn the best 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: way to serious steak or how to do the perfect 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: role technique with my filet Mignon. I guess I'll have 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: to get it elsewhere. And then two thirty pm Betsy Devas, 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: former Education secretary, we'll talk to her about was prize 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: school choice education? What's going on in that world? I 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: think she got a book out as well. Am I 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: corrected that one. She did have a book out. So Clay, 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: let's start with Lori Lightfoot. We could sit here and 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: go into at some length about what's going on Chicago. 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: I broke down basic numbers yesterday, call it roughly an 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: average of seven hundred murders a year over the last 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: few years, which is just completely unacceptable. And then you 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: also look at shooting incidents, You look at theft, you 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: look at criminal sexual assault, you look at robbery. Overall 55 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: crimes through this second month of the well, through February, 56 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: according Daily Mail here, overall crimes are up fifty two, 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: which is just I don't even know how that's compared 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two. Clay, think about that, a fifty 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: percent year over year increase in overall crimes. Does Lawyer 60 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Lightfoot say to everybody, you know what, I'm just not 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: good at this. No, what does she say, Clay. She 62 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: blamed her loss on racism and sexism, which is so 63 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: par for the course on identity politics. But last night, 64 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: when I saw these results coming in, I felt compelled 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Buck to gratulate Lorie Lightfoot. They made such a big 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: deal about the fact that she was the first black 67 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: lesbian to be mayor of a major American city, and 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: I have to congratulate her on being the first black 69 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: lesbian mayor to lose eighty three to seventeen in a 70 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: reelection bid. She's the first Chicago mayor in over forty 71 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: years who was an incumbent not to be a reelected Buck, 72 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this was to me a seismic repudiation of 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: everything that we reject on this show on a daily basis. 74 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: And one of the things that we've been upset about. 75 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: And I'm curious if this reckoning is actually going to 76 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: boomerang back around in twenty four is none of the 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: people who got everything wrong on COVID have had to 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: bear the cost for getting everything wrong on COVID, Right, 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer gets re elected. If you're listening to us 80 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: in Michigan. You remember when there was literal crime scene 81 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: tape over your ability to buy some things in a 82 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: department store. I mean they literally shut down and said 83 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: only certain essential products could be bought. You couldn't buy, 84 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: for instance, if I remember correctly, seeds for your garden, 85 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: if you went out to the grocery store, they had 86 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: that part of the store taped off with crime scene 87 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: tape to disallow people from being able to go in there. 88 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: And so, Lorie Lightfoot, Chicago, I believe, alongside of La 89 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: New York, Philadelphia, Washington, DC, drastically awful decisions were made there, 90 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: and the leadership was indefensible, and all the masking and 91 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: all the social distancing and all the stand in your circles, 92 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: all of it, I think finally led to someone Lori Lightfoot, 93 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: having to pay the price. And I just I looked 94 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: at it and I said, hallelujah. Chicago is our third 95 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: largest city in the country. What were you talking about yesterday, Buck, 96 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: Illinois is the only reliably blue state in the center 97 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: part of the country. And I want you to think 98 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: about that from a geographic perspective, the only non East 99 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: coast or West coast state that you can point to 100 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: and say with virtual one hundred percent certainty, is going 101 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: to be blue. Finally, there were consequences for incompetence and 102 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: the fact that Lorie Lightfoot. I believe we have audio 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: of her we're trying to track down. I don't know 104 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: if she officially said in public. I saw the New 105 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: York Post with the headline about her saying this is 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: because of racism and sexism. One of the two finalists, 107 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: by the way, is a black guy. So it seems 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: to me hard to justify racism when someone else of 109 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: your own race was chosen to be more competent than you. 110 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: But here is Lorie Lightfoot cut three talking about all 111 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the great things she accomplished en route to the worst 112 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: beatdown of an incumbent mayor in a reelection campaign that 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I can remember in modern history. Listen, Obviously, we didn't 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: win the election today, but I stand here with my 115 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: head held high and a heartful and regardless of tonight's outcome, 116 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: we fought the right fights, and we put this city 117 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: on a better path, no doubt about it. I'm grateful 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: that we worked together to remove a record number of 119 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: guns off our streets, reduced homicides and started making real 120 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: progress on public safety. She can say whatever she wants, 121 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: but I mean it's ridiculous, right, I mean, and the 122 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: people of Chicago, the Democrat voters of Chicago, I mean, 123 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: let's be honest about what we're really talking about here. 124 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: They said, this is just too much, this is crazy. 125 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I think a big part of it 126 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: was the videos that you would see, the kind of 127 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: crimes that were occurring in Chicago. You know, there's just 128 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: one this week as well in Saint Louis. I know, 129 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: we have a lot of listeners in Saint Louis, and 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: you know there was that broad daylight execution of a 131 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: homeless man on the street and just broad daylight on video, 132 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: guy pulls out a gun and just calmly, you know, 133 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: murders a fellow human being. You were seeing things similar 134 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: to that in their depravity and the way that they 135 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: were hitting the conscience of the public. Going on in Chicago. 136 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: You know, a woman walking her dog in a quiet 137 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: neighborhood and car screeches up. Guys with hoodies on, you know, 138 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: run at her, grab her, pull a gun out on her, 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: maybe pistol whipper and maybe killer. I mean the things 140 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: that were happening in Chicago, and people were seeing videos 141 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: of these happening over and over again. Eventually it just 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: became too much. It's a shame, I think, part of 143 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: a shame that we had to learn this lesson in 144 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: this way. But I do think one of the things 145 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: you've seen in a lot of these cities is that 146 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the threshold for punishment from bad Democrat policies is higher 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: for Democrats than it would be for just a normal 148 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: rational person. So eventually the crime level gets too high 149 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, in Chicago, it just takes a whole 150 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: lot more awfulness and a whole lot more suffering before 151 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: they come to the right decision. But as we see 152 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: in Chicago, even hard and fast Democrats don't want to 153 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: walk down the streets and get worried about whether there's 154 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: going to be a drive by in their neighborhood, by 155 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: the way, in any neighborhood in Chicago, and that was 156 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: a part of it. Two, It's not just the Southside, 157 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: not just the high crime areas. There was a lot 158 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: of stuff happening in Lincoln Park, a lot of stuff 159 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: happening in you know, there was a shooting, it happened 160 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: in Millennium Park right after I was there. That stuff 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: is what really makes I think people realize this is 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: too much. Buck think about how difficult it is with 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: all of the values of incumbency. You hit on this 164 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: in the open she got seventy three percent of the 165 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: vote four years ago. To go from seventy three percent 166 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: of the vote. I believe she won all fifty voting 167 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: districts in Chicago the last time when she was elected, 168 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: to fall all the way to seventeen percent of the vote, 169 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: when you have all the powers of incumbency, when virtually 170 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: everyone knows you. To me, this is a story that 171 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: is more significant than Chicago. If I am a Democrat 172 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: and I am looking at the refuse of this result, 173 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: I am saying we are in some significant trouble potentially 174 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to incumbency in twenty twenty four. I 175 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: mainly do think so for mayor's races, that's obviously the case. 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: I think at some state level races it will matter. 177 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I will say that you know Joe Biden all along, 178 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: He's been in the game a long time, and as 179 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: much as we talk about his lack of sharpness and 180 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: mental acuity, these days, which is all very true. He 181 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: does know some things, and he understands at the national level, 182 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: the American people are not anti cop, They're just not. 183 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: And so he never he never really went down that 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: full on. He would give a lot of praise to 185 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, VLM and progress and all the stuff that 186 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, oh reform, but he never went a cop. 187 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: He never went defund police. So I don't know if 188 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: that's going to be in the presidential election as big 189 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: of a factor as I would obviously wish it to be. 190 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: But I do think at some of the city and 191 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: state levels you're going to see people who are in 192 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: big trouble. I just want to be clear, though. Clay 193 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: Lori Lightfoot rejects this entirely, and she does view this 194 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: as a referendum, a referendum on how racist the people 195 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: of Chicago are, which is so weird because seventy three 196 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: percent of them voted for her the last time. Somehow, 197 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: between a sweeping electoral victory and mandate by chicagoans, Chicago 198 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: just got super racist in the last few years. A 199 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: lot of people wandered around the streets with maga hats on. 200 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: I guess millions of them, she said, to The New 201 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: Yorker over the weekend. This is the quote, I am 202 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: a black woman. Let's not forget certain folks frankly don't 203 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: support us in leadership roles. Oh so that's why Chicago 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: just had the biggest swing against a mayor in terms 205 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: of electoral politics. I think I've never seen anything like 206 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: this before. A lot of racism and sexism suddenly took over. 207 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: This was my argument that the media missed in twenty sixteen. Buck, 208 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: a huge number of people in the Midwest voted for 209 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: Barack Obama in two thousand and eight and two twelve, 210 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: millions of people and then flip their vote to Donald Trump. 211 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: And the immediate reaction was Trump won because of racism. 212 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: And my question was, well, if you're willing to vote 213 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: for a black guy to be president of the United 214 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: States and then you flip to Donald Trump, it seems 215 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: like that's not racism. And this is, of course, because 216 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: this is the only game they know how to play, right, 217 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: the identity politics driven Democrat party. Lori Lightfoot can't say 218 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: she won seventy three percent of the vote because people 219 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: chose her as the best candidate irrespective of whether she 220 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: was black or lesbian. That's not the reason they voted 221 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: for her. It's only the reason they can vote against her. Right, 222 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: she can only be a victim of her race and sex. 223 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: She can never benefit from it at all. It's so 224 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: strange too, because when she's running, and this is true 225 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: in many different elections, when she's running, the media and 226 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and some Independence and some Republicans, we'll 227 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: all talk about the groundbreaking nature, the glass seeing shattering 228 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: nature of having not just the first black female mayor 229 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: but the first black lesbian female mayor of Chicago, and 230 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I believe of a major city of that size in 231 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: the United States as an asset, and then it is 232 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: spoken of as an asset clearly like incredible accomplishment. So 233 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the game that is played in the whole diversity and 234 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: inclusion rhetoric is isn't this so great? Don't we all 235 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: agree that this is great? Just these you know, the 236 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: immutable characteristic set issue, the identity politics involved. But then 237 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: if it goes against that person after a huge win, it's, well, 238 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: everybody's racist and homophobic or sexist or whatever. So well, 239 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: hold on a second. I thought it was it was 240 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: an asset before, but now it's a huge it's a 241 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: huge electoral liability. 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The next senator 268 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: from the great state of Indiana. He is currently a congressman, 269 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: but I believe he is going to be representing the 270 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Hoosier state very soon and he joins us now Indiana 271 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Banks. I'll start off with this one congressman 272 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: soon to be senator or I don't know the answer 273 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: to this. Are you an Indiana guy a Perdue guy. 274 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: There have been a couple of big battles, obviously in 275 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: a basketball crazy state. How are you going to manage 276 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: that as the senator when you have to represent both sides? Well, 277 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I might not be politically advantageous, but I'm a I'm 278 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: a proud Indiana University graduate. Perdue as our arch rival, 279 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and this is the first time in ten years that 280 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: my Indiana Hoosiers have beat Perdue at both home and away. Yeah, 281 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: you guys swept THEMI year. I'm proud of my beloved 282 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Hoosiers clip. All right, So that is what's going on 283 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: in the battlefield of a basketball which is a big deal, 284 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: especially now that we're into March in the state of Indiana, 285 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: but on a much bigger scale, you are really trying 286 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: to hold China accountable. And what's what's interesting is, and 287 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious how you would analyze this, it seems that 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: maybe of all things that are going on right now 289 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, there's a lot of momentum bipartisanship even 290 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: to want to hold China accountable to a large extent. 291 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: What can we do? What should we do? What are 292 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: we doing? Yeah, last night we had the first Select 293 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Committee on China hearing. I'm a part of the committee, 294 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: Mike Gallagher from Wisconsin as the chairman of the committee. 295 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: It went for three hours long. We had great testimony 296 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: from General McMaster, Matt Pottinger and others talking about the 297 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: issues of the day. But the great thing about it 298 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: was this was the first time I've seen Democrats actually 299 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: come to the table and I want to talk about 300 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: the threat that China poses to America, to our American 301 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: way of life. You had a lot of Democrats who 302 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: were who were afraid to talk about this issue over 303 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: the last four or five years. But now they understand 304 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: that this is a moment where we have to come 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: together to provide solutions to protect America from the most 306 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: dangerous existential threat that we face today, which is the 307 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party. So overall, a good hearing, but we 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: got to back that up. We got to follow that 309 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: up with legislation. Earlier this week, I introduced to build 310 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: a sanctioned China for made in China fentenol flooding into 311 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: our country, the leading cause of death of Americans my age, 312 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand and people in America killed by 313 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: fenton all poisoning. So let's sanctioned them, hold them accountable. 314 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: That's what my bill would do. And hopefully more bills 315 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: like that come out of the Select Committee on China too. 316 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Congresson Banks, you also have focused in on TikTok and 317 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the refusal from TikTok to give Congressional testimony overties to 318 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist government. So first of all, you know 319 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: what is the response. I mean, they just refused to 320 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: show up. And then if you can just tell us, 321 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: is TikTok gonna get banned? Do you think that's actually 322 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: going to happen? And would would Biden sign that? How 323 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: does this go? Yeah, Joe Biden's never going to ban 324 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: TikTok because Joe Biden is the most friendliest president we've 325 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: ever had the Chinese Communist Party. And that's saying a lot, 326 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: because we've had presidents on both sides of the aisle 327 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: who played foot seat with China. But President Joe Biden 328 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: is in bed with them. So I don't expect him 329 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: to unilaterally banned TikTok. But Congress needs to pay asked 330 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: a law to do it if he's not going to 331 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: do it, And it's so important. We talked about this 332 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: last night in the Select Committee on China. Matt Pottinger 333 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: talked about how the Chinese Communist Party uses TikTok as 334 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: an espionage tool in America to follow Americans, especially to 335 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: use it and say on college campuses where we're doing 336 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: sensitive national security related research and I'm thinking about my 337 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: alma mater. I love the basketball team, but they're week 338 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: on this issue too friendly toward Chinese Communist Party interest, 339 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: and they still allow TikTok on university devices. Now, Purdue University, 340 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I've met with the president of Purdue this week, and 341 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: while I'm glad my basketball team beat the pretty boiler 342 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: Makers twice this year, they actually did this. The new 343 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: president of Purdue University banned TikTok on university devices because 344 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: they do a lot of work on their college campus 345 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: on hypersonics research and some of the emerging technologies that 346 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: we need to defeat China. So that's what we need 347 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: to do, a blanket across the board ban on TikTok 348 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: on federal devices. If we can't get it rid of 349 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: it altogether in America, let's get rid of it on 350 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: government devices that could pose a national security threat with 351 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: our biggest enemy using it to follow Americans as they're 352 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: doing important things. We're talking to Congressman Jim Banks, he's 353 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: soon to be the next Senator from the great state 354 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: of Indiana. I'm sure you saw. Christopher Ray came out 355 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: and echoed what the Department of Energy also has said 356 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: that COVID leaked from a Chinese lab. You're having these 357 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: hearings on China right now. It doesn't seem to me 358 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: like there have been any consequences for China for both 359 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: leaking COVID, because I think that that is by far 360 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: the most likely outcome out of a Chinese lab and 361 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: then maybe we're even worse than that, covering up that 362 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: fact for years and not coming clean with the world, 363 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the global community, and certainly the United States not to 364 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: mention the Chinese spy balloon, but just for COVID. Right now, 365 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: what should the consequences to China be for what they 366 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: did with COVID, presuming that it did in fact leak 367 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: from a Chinese lab well, which which we now know 368 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: to be true. I mean, it's it's it's incredible. What 369 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: they told us two and a half years ago was 370 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: trafficking in in UH conspiracy theories and dangerous rhetoric and 371 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: foreign propaganda. Now they're admitting was true all along, Even 372 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: though Tom Cotton and myself and and Donald Trump a 373 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of other people talked about this early on in 374 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: the in the coronavirus outbreak, the likelihood of it coming 375 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: from there. Now now we know it's true, So now 376 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: we have to do something about it. We have a 377 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: moral obligation in Congress to hold China accountable for their 378 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: what they did, their negligence on their part, whether it 379 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: was intentional or not, to allow coronavirus to spread around 380 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: the world, killing so many Americans, but also wrecking havoc 381 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: on the American economy and the global economy. So for 382 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: the first starters, I mean, let's let's allow, let's pass 383 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: something they will allow for reparations or for an avenue 384 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: for Americans who lost to love one to suit China, 385 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: to hold the accountable for it. I mean that that's 386 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: common sense to me. That's what they would do to us. 387 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: And and uh with you know, with the president like 388 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, I can't imagine he would fight back if 389 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: a foreign country was trying to do that to America. 390 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: I don't know why we wouldn't do that to China 391 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: to hold them accountable for it too. Speaking to Congressman 392 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: Banks of Indiana, Congressman, how concerned are you about China 393 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: supporting Russia in Ukraine something that got a lot of 394 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: attention in the last week or so. Yeah, this is 395 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: a deep, deeply troubling We had a we also had 396 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: a hearing yesterday in the Armed Services Committee, an update 397 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: on the situation in Ukraine, and I asked one of 398 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: the Biden administration officials about the you know, the role 399 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: that the Russians were playing in US negotiating a new rondeal, 400 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: which is ludicrous in and of itself a different subject, 401 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: but it just goes to show how back and forth, 402 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: how the different the mixed sick knows that the Biden 403 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: administration sends when has come to Russia all along. So 404 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: now we have the the axis of evil Iran, Russia, 405 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: and uh and China working together and and supplying weapons 406 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: and ammunition to to to Russia to back them up. 407 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know, this is a deeply troubling situation that 408 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: just goes to show when you when you put the 409 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: weakest president that you can possibly find in the White 410 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: House as the commander in chief, it invites the aggression 411 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: of our biggest enemies. And that that's why the world, 412 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: if it feels like the world has been turned upside 413 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: down because of American weakness, is because it has been 414 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: turned upside down. So this is the opposite of peace 415 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: through strength. And what we came to appreciate about President 416 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Trump in the office who projected strength, um that that 417 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: deterred our enemies. We have the exact opposite today and 418 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and China's rolling all of it is something that we 419 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: can't ignore. Again, hold China accountable. We have we we 420 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: we finally at Democrats come to the table last night 421 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: at the at a congressional hearing. But the president is not. 422 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: It's not just that he's missing an action on China, 423 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: it's that he's on their side. We already know that 424 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: that the Biden family took millions of dollars from Chinese 425 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: Communist Party interests, and the big guy with skimming ten 426 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: percent off the top. You know this. We're talking about 427 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: corruption at the highest levels. 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Betsy. 465 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Great to have you on the program. Thanks so much, Clay, 466 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: and back thanks for having me. Let's talk about the 467 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court oral arguments yesterday. What's that issue here on 468 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: the student debt relief cancelation whatever they want to call it. 469 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: You ran the Education Department. What do you think about 470 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: this Biden administration plan to waive the proverbial magic wand 471 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: and have twenty twenty thousand dollars of debt wiped away 472 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: for a whole lot of folks. Yeah, and about half 473 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: trillion dollars by conservative estimates. Well, I and four of 474 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: my former secretary of education colleagues for former Republican Secretary 475 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Harris all agree there is no authority for the secretary 476 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: to do this. No authority for the executive branch, the president. 477 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: It's clearly illegal. And interestingly, while I attended the oral 478 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: arguments yesterday at the Supreme Court, and while there was 479 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: a lot of questioning around whether the case had standing, 480 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: they were also the justices were also very very interested 481 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: in the question of legality. And it is clear he 482 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: does not. Congress is the one with is the entity 483 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: with the power of the purse. And you know what 484 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Biden and his administration saw was a bunch of politics 485 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: that they tried to wrap in policy attract young people's 486 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: votes for the promise of wiping away their student debt. 487 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: It's wrong and it is I'm very optimistic that the 488 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: court is going to find it illegal as it is. 489 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Thank you for coming on the show. 490 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: We appreciate all the things you're doing. Another big court 491 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: case that deals directly with education is affirmative action. It 492 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: appears to be on the chopping block because and I'm 493 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: sure you've dove into the details on this to a 494 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: great degree, but in particular, Asian applicants are being discriminated 495 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: against at many elite institutions all over the country in 496 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: a way Interestingly that Jewish applicants used to be discriminated against, 497 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: which is how we ended up with standardized test in 498 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: the first place. What do you think the Supreme Court 499 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: is going to do with affirmative action based on what 500 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: you know of that jurisprudence as well, well, I would 501 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: agree that it seems to be in a direction they're 502 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: headed to indicate that these are not non discriminatory programs 503 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: and that they cannot that race cannot be a you know, 504 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: the factor in deciding admittance or not to an institution. 505 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of very important implications to that case, obviously, 506 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: But on the student debt case, it has implications for 507 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: all of us because in the case that that was 508 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: allowed to stand, all of the taxpayers are the ones 509 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: footing the bills to wipe away the debt of millions 510 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: of students, over fifty percent of whom say they don't 511 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: need their debt wiped away, that they're capable of continuing 512 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: to pay, and so it is a very big issue 513 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: with very massive implications for everyone in the country. Speaking 514 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: of former Secretary of Education Betsy de Vos, she served 515 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: unto the Trump administration, Betsy, how are we doing on 516 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: school choice initiatives? Across the country. I know we don't 517 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: have a White House that is favorable to the idea, 518 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: but I know that at the local and state a 519 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: more grassroots level, this is something that education freedom activists 520 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: are very focused in on. Are we gaining ground? How's 521 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: the movement doing? Absolutely, education freedom, school choice is on 522 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: a roll. There are now four states that have introduced 523 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and passed universal education savings accounts for every student in 524 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: their state Arizona, West Virginia, Iowa, and Nevada. Florida is 525 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: soon to follow. They're debating that bill right now, and 526 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I expect that soon we will also see it joined 527 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: by Arkansas, Oklahoma. Nebraska's considering a very big expansion, as 528 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: is Ohio, and and I think that the momentum is 529 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: going to continue to build as states see their neighbors 530 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: doing making policy change that's going to support families and 531 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: kids and is ultimately going to be an economic boon 532 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: for the states that do this to be able to 533 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: attract families to live there who want a high quality 534 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: of life and a good opportunity in an economy that's working. Betsy, 535 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure I don't know if you saw this story, 536 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: but there was a religious high school that refused to 537 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: take the court against a team they were playing in 538 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: basketball because they were using on that team a transgender athlete, 539 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: a male that was now identifying as a female. You 540 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: were at the forefront. You in particular, I don't think 541 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: you've got credit for this that you deserve to help 542 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: fix some of these kangaroo courts that were going on 543 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: inside many of these colleges and universities when it came 544 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: to allegations of sexual assault, basic due process rights that 545 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't exist. When you see the Biden administration trying to 546 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: argue that they are going to put the full force 547 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: of the American government behind the idea that if you 548 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: are a boy and you want to identify as a girl, 549 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: you should be able to compete in women's athletics. What 550 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: do you think about that? And how important is it 551 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: for people to fight back against it. It's absolutely important, 552 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: And they are in the process right now of trying 553 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: to undo all the good hard work we did to 554 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: bring a fair and balanced and reliable approach to for 555 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: students and for campuses to be able to follow and 556 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: rely upon. They're trying to not only turn that all back, 557 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: but take it multiple steps further than even the Obama 558 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: administration did before the Trump administration, and it is it 559 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: is inconceivable that this will ultimately be allowed to stand 560 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: if that's where they end up. But people have got 561 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: to continue to raise their voices and speak out against 562 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: this notion of You know, we've we've had the Civil 563 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Rights Bill passed to ensure that girls and women had 564 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: an equal opportunity to play in sports and to access 565 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: education opportunities. Well, if you allow a biological mail to 566 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: compete on a girls team, that by definition kind of 567 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: moots the point of women's sports. Amen. She's Betsy of Os, 568 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: former Secretary of Education. Her book Costages No More, The 569 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: Fight for Education, freedom, and the future of the American Child. 570 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Thanks so much for having me. 571 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: All right, beck, as we roll into the final segment here, 572 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: just going to break down everything as we get ready 573 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: for the clothes of the show here, I think that 574 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: is a safe bet. Indeed, you all know about how 575 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: woke activist sees control of America's schools. Now a group 576 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: of investment firms that Americans and trust with our pensions 577 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and retirements are playing woke politics with your money without 578 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: our knowledge or consent. A few large investment firms names 579 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: you know that control trillions of dollars of your money 580 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: are using those dollars to advance their woke ideology through 581 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: a progressive social scoring program called ESG. They claim it 582 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: promotes corporate responsibility. What they're really doing is using americans 583 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: hard earned money to finance their political agenda, forcing businesses 584 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: to comply or else. Some state leaders are fighting back 585 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: and more are joining, letting those investment firms know they 586 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: can't play politics with our pensions. They can either do 587 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: their jobs, maximize returns for shareholders, or get lost. 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Yesterday, Buck, I thought 597 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: something happened on the show that would not happen. Ever, 598 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: now it's gonna happen again. This may be even more crazy. 599 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: I am going to praise Joy behar who I've previously 600 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: called the dumbest woman appearing on any program daily in 601 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: America maybe in the world. Joy bay Harbors on the 602 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: View yesterday, Buck I said, Whoopie Goldberg nailed it. I mean, 603 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm gonna end up one of the chicks 604 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: on the View at this direct Are you gonna be 605 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: on the View and Joy's gonna say you're handsomer in person, 606 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: mister Travis. I mean they might end up adding me 607 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: as a dude, just to have a dude on the View, 608 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: not just chicks. And uh, maybe I'd end up agreeing 609 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: with them because I don't know if you get to 610 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: call them chicks if you're on set with them. I'm 611 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: just throwing that out there. Is chicks an offensive term, 612 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: not to me, but I'm a dude. I mean it's interesting. 613 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: I remember when I was practicing law. I we had 614 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: a new attorney, new female attorney, and I said, who's 615 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: the new girl? And they were like one of the 616 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: women partners was like, oh, you would never say who's 617 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: the new boy? And I was like no, but I 618 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: would say who's the new guy. She was like, Oh, yeah, 619 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's right. But I mean, so this whole 620 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: idea of you know, what words can you use? I 621 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: don't think that chicks is is a defensive term. Certainly 622 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: not gonna gonna call them babes. But joy Behart, this 623 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: has this happened to you ever? Buck? So Marjorie Taylor 624 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: Green was out to dinner, I think, and she was 625 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: confronted by someone who disagreed with her politically. Have you 626 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: had or been in any scene where you've seen a 627 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: situation like this happened? Wait to me? Or have I 628 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: started with somebody you're sitting with. I've had it happened once. 629 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: So I will tell you I was very disappointed. Where 630 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: I lived in DC was also a place during the 631 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: Trump administration where there were some Trump White House officials 632 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: of bringing up because there were and I mean the 633 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: most blue haired, you know, nose ring wearing lunatic libs 634 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: had gathered right under my window. Yeah, and they were 635 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: banging drums and cow bells and they're like, oh, like 636 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: you support like the white nationalist in the White House 637 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And there's a part of me 638 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: that's like these people are super annoying. It's a sunday 639 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: I want to sleep, But also a part of me 640 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: that was like, oh, moving up in the world. I 641 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 1: gotta They were going for Stephen Miller, and he lived 642 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: on the other side of the building, which is what 643 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: was so unfair. He never heard a peep from these lunatics, 644 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: but I thought they were there for me. Turned out 645 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: not so much. But no, this actually hasn't happened to 646 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: me yet. I had a lot of very nice people 647 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: in our radio audience come up and say wonderful things 648 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: about us, and I love them, but I haven't had 649 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: the nasty then I had. When I worked at CNN, 650 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: I had a guy look at me on the subway 651 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: and he stared at me and he said, I see 652 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: you on CNN, says you sound eloquent, but I hate 653 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: everything you say. So that was a little bit of 654 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: a thing. What did you have? What happened to you? 655 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: I've had. I've been screamed at twice while doing stand ups. Yeah, 656 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: once last year, meaning twenty twenty one. So I was 657 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: at a Tennessee, Georgia game, I think, or I don't remember. 658 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: I was standing up doing like a television hit and 659 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: in between the hits. Somebody screamed at me, I can't 660 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: believe you're defending Kyle House in any way. You're gonna 661 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: go to hell and a bunch of curse words. Um. 662 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: That was in Knoxville. And then I was doing a 663 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: person feels about himself considering Kyle Rittenhouse one hundred percent 664 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: innocent and did nothing wrong. But yeah, interesting, Yeah I 665 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: was right on that one. And then actually, I don't 666 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: even know that I mentioned this to you. I was 667 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: doing a stand up about to do one before the 668 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: Alabama Texas game in Austin when you were you and 669 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: your family were down there, you and your brothers, and 670 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: somebody came by was like, I listened to your show, 671 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: You're a horrible racist, blah blah blah blah blah, like 672 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot of curse words. And I was like, appreciate 673 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: you listening, and uh. And so that's the only two 674 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: times face to face that I've ever had face to 675 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: face I forgetting. I went to a black tie event 676 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: in New York and there was a line of protesters 677 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: outside and a couple of them got right in my 678 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm in a tuxedo and a couple of them got 679 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: right in my face. And they're like, they're look, you're 680 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: not welcome here. We know who you are, and I 681 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: want to be like, no, welcome, this is my city. 682 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: You're prob race. You probably just got off a bus 683 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: from someplace god knows where, Like, what are you talking about? 684 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: But you're not welcome in New York of this whole thing. 685 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: And they were screaming in my face the cop there, 686 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: so I think they also were hoping that I. You know, 687 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: this is these people are so tough. They want to 688 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: get right on your face. They were all nails. I 689 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: want to get right in your face and say really 690 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: aggressive things. And then the moment you like, do anything, 691 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah you attacked me. I'm throwing a jill. 692 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Not yet. Of course, ninety nine point nine percent of 693 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: all things that I hear in public are positive. But 694 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: I did want to mention that and the idea that 695 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: you would confront someone in a restaurant regardless of their politics. 696 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: And I say this to everybody out there listening as well, indefensible. 697 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: You are not in the right when you make this decision. 698 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: So Marjorie Taylor Green was confronted, and this is what 699 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: Joy Behar on the View had to say. Marjorie Taylor 700 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: Green tweeted that she was quote attacked quote unquote by 701 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: a woman in a restaurant on Monday night and was 702 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: screamed at by her adult son, not Marjorie's, the woman's 703 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: son while she was sitting at a table with members 704 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: of herself, simply because she claims it was just because 705 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: she has political views that are different. So I have 706 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: to say I'm on Madreie's side for this one, because 707 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe that anybody should be going up to 708 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: any of us, anybody in public and harassing us. Amen. 709 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: Joy Behart nailed they never have said it before on 710 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: the show. She's a hundred percent right. Hi FI for 711 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: Joy behar on that One's just gonna say it. We 712 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: will always when people speak the truth, they're speaking the truth. 713 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't care who says it. The truth is a 714 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: good thing. She's right. She probably took a little heat 715 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: from her audience on that one. I don't know many 716 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: Maybe Joy beharror is sick of carrying water for the commies, 717 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe she's starting to see a little a 718 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: glimmer of light. Let's not get crazy, Let's not get crazy, 719 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: but a little tiny bit and to joy Beharror's defense here, 720 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: this is the exact opposite of what Congressman Congresswoman Maxine 721 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: Water said. Remember where she said, and get everybody in 722 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: the face and screen at him. Basically, the view should 723 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: have us on let's just put that out there. The 724 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: view bookers have on Clay and Buck. But coming up next, 725 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about the FBI and the Mari Lago raid.