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Speaker 3: These are the facts, my nigga. But I want to

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Speaker 3: Those conversations are relevant, But Bro, don't nobody really need

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean it like that, y'all niggas. Man listen,

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Speaker 3: It'll have to be cut out because of how Joe

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Speaker 3: Button and his team works, right, they let certain people

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 3: Even though these things are transformative in nature, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about this this last portion of this conversation.

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Speaker 3: You've been hearing me speak about the way that Melissa

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Speaker 3: I don't know Joe. I don't have a personal issue

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Speaker 3: to him. When you got boy, it's a lot I

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Speaker 3: Let's get back over subject prap. I love podcasting though.

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Speaker 3: I also spoke to Melissa Ford as it pertains to

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Speaker 3: Will be a long fall down if he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: Because he's now changed the texture of the show, It's

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Speaker 3: Not sure about Melissa Ford. I think their relationships is

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Speaker 3: But I want to get to this that just dropped today,

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Speaker 3: and this is our last part of the year, so

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to get to, a lot to

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Speaker 2: get to. Let's pay attention.

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Speaker 4: We need to waste a five minutes. Come on, Actually

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Speaker 4: I got a memorized.

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Speaker 2: It was mood.

432
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 4: A woman asked me what it's like working in a

433
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: space with predominantly men and then a moredominantly male space,

434
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 4: and a male answered.

435
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: Clever, it's funny. It's funny.

436
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 6: Let's just say that I've had I've had a lot

437
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 6: of like mansplaining, I've had, I've had I've had to

438
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 6: endure a lot of mansplaining the last I.

439
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: Don't know what that weeks. Why did you have to?

440
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 7: I don't know what it means, you can't, but the

441
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 7: man explaining me.

442
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 6: Just certain situations that arose over the last couple of weeks.

443
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 6: You know, there's been a lot of rumor, conjecture, opinions

444
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 6: throwing flying around, assumptions.

445
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 5: You know, that's it.

446
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: What does man's plaining mean again?

447
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 6: Man's plaining is basically just a phrase where you know,

448
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 6: a man takes it upon himself to explain how a

449
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 6: woman is thinking and feeling.

450
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Speaker 8: Oh got it?

451
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: You know.

452
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Speaker 6: But sometimes you'll be talking to somebody that you feel

453
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Speaker 6: like you have that kind of relationship with her where

454
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 6: you want you want to feel like, you want to

455
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 6: feel miss you want to feel understood by that person.

456
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Speaker 5: You know, Yes, I.

457
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 9: Them situations that you speak of.

458
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 5: I don't really want to go that way. Please God, Jesus.

459
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 8: Take the wall.

460
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: Again.

461
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: I want you guys again.

462
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: I want you guys just to pay attention to the spirit.

463
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: Just pay attention to Melissa Ford spirit. Bro.

464
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 3: It is down, it is defeated, it is beaten. It

465
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: is like they have sucked out a soul from Melissa Ford.

466
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: So what I think gonna happen in their future is

467
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 3: that Joe's gonna take a look at and say, Yo,

468
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: we might just have to get a gone. She may

469
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: just have to leave the position she's she's been placed

470
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: in on the show causes for her to have to

471
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: dive into the mud out with them sometimes. And it

472
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: wasn't that at first. It was a totally grown up

473
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: podcast at first. When they got Melissa on board, there

474
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: was no flip. The podcast was kind of doing like this,

475
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: and that was really grown up conversation.

476
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: So she would have fit right into that.

477
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: It was this era of them calling people out doing

478
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: certain things for content. That was the era that calls

479
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: the debacle of what we know with Melissa Ford at

480
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: this time. Pay attention to Melissa Ford's spirit in this moment.

481
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: It's extremely important to understand.

482
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Speaker 9: I wasn't mentioning I wasn't saying anything, okay, do you

483
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 9: because you said you you were involved in a bunch

484
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 9: of situations that that you were man explained about stuff, right.

485
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about the.

486
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 6: Like the residual like the effect, okay.

487
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: And that was what prompted the posting of the meme.

488
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 6: It was just kind of it was it was very

489
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 6: much like just kind of like an apropos moment that

490
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: was happening at the time. But like I said, it

491
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 6: was not meant for you guys to internalize.

492
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: It was a relatable at the moment.

493
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 6: It was very relatable at the moment. It was really

494
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 6: relatable at the moment she.

495
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Speaker 2: Worked with us.

496
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Speaker 1: What do you mean.

497
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: Because because.

498
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 10: As her male co workers, and she posted a meme

499
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 10: about work working with men, how are the male coworkers

500
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 10: supposed to feel? Why shouldn't not Why shouldn't they internalize that?

501
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: Imagine?

502
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 7: Do you think that there could have been some and

503
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 7: even if it was a joke, even if it was

504
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 7: came off.

505
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Best jokes have a little bit of truth to them.

506
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it with each other a lot.

507
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 11: Yes, Right then, why are you certain about how the

508
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 11: people up here will feel?

509
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: About her just making a joke that's true to her.

510
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: She's now part of the cast.

511
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 11: She's part of a larger forget just the cast we

512
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 11: are calling her sists, we call a fan.

513
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: She should be able to do the same level as

514
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: ship and can't nobody feel a way?

515
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 7: Ask your question if we if we joked about an

516
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 7: annoying female co worker that we work with, would she

517
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 7: how would she take it that?

518
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 8: If I'm posted on my stories, I.

519
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 6: Got Well, there's also length of time, there's dynamic that's

520
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: already been established.

521
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: This is, this is, this is, this is, this is

522
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: kind of new.

523
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 6: And also being the sole female, I don't expect men

524
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 6: to really understand what.

525
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: I get that.

526
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 6: But you can't compare being white to being female. I'm

527
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 6: not going to do it.

528
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: Because the minority can't you.

529
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not the same thing.

530
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: We said.

531
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Speaker 11: A lot of this white jokes up here, right, and

532
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 11: Parks feeds into it, and so it never becomes a

533
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 11: thing for him that.

534
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 6: This is a male, male dominant podcast with in terms

535
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: of the cast, in terms of the viewership, and when

536
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: a woman walks through the room, it doesn't matter. She's

537
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 6: always going to be judged more harshly on every aspect

538
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 6: of everything before she even starts talking.

539
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: So it is a lot. It is just question.

540
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Let me say it.

541
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 7: When you say, when you come in with who you are,

542
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: Melissa Ford, that we grew up watching we're not I

543
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 7: don't think, well, I don't judge you.

544
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 11: I mean, I mean it's hard being a minority. But

545
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 11: has anyone ever said, hey, Parks, how do you how

546
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 11: bad do you feel about being the only white guy

547
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 11: with all these white jokes?

548
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Is flying? He takes another chin. I'm saying what I'm

549
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: saying is true.

550
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: After the remarks with Cameron, I guess she tweeted about

551
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: working around men and they try to man explain women's

552
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: feelings and situations, and in particular, it'll be hard in

553
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: this scenario seeing that she is rounded by five different

554
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: men's opinion, so to be the sole woman's opinion for

555
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: them to not to really incorporate that into the understanding.

556
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: However, you are on a podcast, I get that.

557
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: Any event you're dealing with someone that's been in this

558
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: industry for a long time, or at least running alongside

559
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: the music industry, you ask yourself, if I'm a listen forward,

560
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: I say, damn I spent twenty years, twenty years to

561
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: not be a perfect person, but to at least try

562
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: to keep my industry image as tell a maid, to

563
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: the scenario that I may find myself in as I could.

564
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: She's always tried to keep it yo. I'm good looking,

565
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm easy to deal with, I'm pleasant.

566
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: I try at least I try to come off this way,

567
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: only to get up here with Joe Budden for a

568
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: couple thousand dollars and ruin that twenty or thirty year

569
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: legacy by way of commenting on a podcast that we

570
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: record twenty or thirty hours a week of. And I

571
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: didn't really sign up for this. Again, rewind some you

572
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: see her interaction. At first, they gave her a floor,

573
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: even when she threw some of these little corny jokes

574
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: that she throws. Right, she throws these little jokes. It's

575
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: kind of corny. They let them live. Now they don't. Again,

576
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: I understand character development, but I don't really think I

577
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: can agree or relate to any woman standing by me

578
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: and being attacked by me. Your homiees. She said what

579
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: she said, She apologized. You ain't gonna handle it like that, though,

580
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: And that may be me dragging shit from the underworld

581
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: to the mainstream, and they may not got no business

582
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: up here. I still don't know. I'm trying to figure out.

583
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: But there ain't no where an America man can talk

584
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: to a woman around me a certain way. I don't

585
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: give a fuck what she said, especially if she apologized.

586
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: And don't call me your sister.

587
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: Don't call me your sister when niggas throwing bitches and

588
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: holes and prostitute around and you niggas ducking for cover.

589
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: But it's a show and that's where they trick you

590
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: in this industry. Oh but it's business. But then when

591
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: we get out there, Hey, man, I want to treat

592
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: you like family. This is a family thing. But then

593
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: we get in the ball it's business. But which one

594
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: y'all confusing the hell out of me?

595
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: Is it business? Is it family? Is it real? Is

596
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: it fake? Are you telling the truth? Are you lying?

597
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: Imagine what they're doing to the people following their blueprint

598
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: if they're confusing the very people on the couch next

599
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: to them. You got a girl on the couch next

600
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: to some of these guys that don't even know what

601
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: we're doing here.

602
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Continue to listen to her explain.

603
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: Compare to her remove woman, No, I didn't like.

604
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: My version of podcasting was very was was different from this.

605
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 6: This is a this is a very different environment than

606
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 6: anything that I have ever been, that I've ever been

607
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 6: a part of. And that's just the that's just the truth.

608
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 6: It has been like it has been. I've had to

609
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 6: develop a muscle that don't say a word right now

610
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 6: that I've never ever ever had to use before. Like

611
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 6: my interaction with the culture has been very like peripheral, like.

612
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: It's like skin of it is. It has been.

613
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: It's been extremely challenging, you know, because the reality of

614
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: the situation is that. And don't anybody jump on me

615
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 6: for saying this. Just hear the words that I'm saying

616
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: and understand my meaning. I'm really nice.

617
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: How many of y'all deal with women? You know, when

618
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: she's trying to talk to you and you wanted them.

619
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Dudes that whether you do or you don't, what do

620
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: you think?

621
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: You are?

622
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 12: You not?

623
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: Again, as you get older, you understand it's about how

624
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: you being received. I spoke about this one hundred episodes ago.

625
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't even care what I'm saying. It's more important

626
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: how I'm being received, at least by the people I

627
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: need to receive me warm hole. I need them to

628
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: know I'm vulnerable when need be, I'm powerful when need be,

629
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm strong when need be.

630
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: Dig I need them to know this.

631
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: Right, So, the people that need to receive me in

632
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: a way, I need to be able to communicate that

633
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: and get that to them. But I've been around women

634
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: that thought that I was closed off and at a

635
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: certain point emotions flair and in their mind, I'm no

636
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: longer listening, and even if I'm listening, I'm not incorporating

637
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: it in my response what even they said. And the

638
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: more I listen to women, I hear that sometimes men

639
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: are sit there and listen. Listening and hearing is different.

640
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: So oftentimes I hear from them, Yo, dudes are listening,

641
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: but by way of their actions, I don't think they

642
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: incorporated what I told them into their understanding. Because now

643
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: they may respond to something that we're talking about, and

644
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: in their response, I don't see.

645
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: Any rimments of anything I say.

646
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: That's a peek into her mindset about when I'm communicating

647
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: with these gentlemen, it doesn't seem like they are even listening.

648
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: They're ready to attack me before I can even get

649
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: through it.

650
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 6: I'm fucking Canadian. I'm non confrontational. I'm non combative. That's

651
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: my nature. It is very difficult for me to go

652
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 6: against my nature and exhibit a different, you know, attitude,

653
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 6: because it doesn't belong to me.

654
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: It doesn't come naturally to me.

655
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 6: What comes naturally to me is to think that everybody

656
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: wants to be on the right side of good, to

657
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: think about the best in people, that people aren't fucking

658
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 6: assholes by nature.

659
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 5: Like, That's the way that I think.

660
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: So when I get when the opposite gets shown to

661
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: me or proven to me, it really fuck it really

662
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 6: shocks me, you know.

663
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 5: So I have.

664
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 6: Sometimes I have like a really difficult time dealing with it.

665
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 6: And also I don't.

666
00:35:59,640 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 4: I don't.

667
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 6: I didn't grow up with brothers, I didn't grow up

668
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 6: with nephews, I didn't grow up with boys. So I've

669
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 6: never really experienced ribbing and shit like that. What I

670
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: have experienced is poking fun blah blah blah. I've never

671
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 6: really experienced that. So what I have experience is being attacked,

672
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: you know, having my reputation you know, fucked up, my

673
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 6: character defamed.

674
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: I've had I've had that stuff happen to me.

675
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 6: And there's always had to be like a very specific

676
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 6: response to it. So this has been just very different

677
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 6: for me, you know, in terms of acclimating myself to

678
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 6: it and also acclimating myself to like an audience that

679
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 6: might have seen me as like an interloper.

680
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm going to ask you

681
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: a couple of quess I want to ask.

682
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: You a question, and just to finish off. There's other

683
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 5: times where I just.

684
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: I just don't feel comfortable expressing myself because A I

685
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 6: feel like I'm going to be cut off, so I

686
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 6: feel like, what's the fucking point. B. I feel like

687
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: there's a commitment to misunderstanding whatever I say, and see

688
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 6: I feel like sometimes the code of conduct that men

689
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 6: operate under is the strongest thing in the room, so

690
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 6: no matter what the fuck I say, it's gonna be like,

691
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 6: oh fuck that, No da da dah.

692
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: One time for Melissa for it, she was definitely just cooking.

693
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: Some she said there I believe is extremely important and

694
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: valuable to the understanding of what's happening there. She said,

695
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: there's a commitment to misunderstanding what I say, and God

696
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: knows it didn't start that way.

697
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have moved away from La over here.

698
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: For some niggas Dick are committed to misunderstanding what comes

699
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: out of my mouth. Now does that make for great

700
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: podcasting yet? But now it's affecting things because people see

701
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: how you treat your kids, and they treat them the

702
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: same way.

703
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: When the teachers.

704
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: See me and they see how I handle my children,

705
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: they expectations of my children.

706
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Better resemble that.

707
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: When you see how I handle my car and clean

708
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: my car, clean my home, don't want to handle my

709
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: loved ones or the things I appreciate. It, better resemble

710
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: that in your actions, or we got a problem. And

711
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: so if they see me beat my children, they think

712
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 3: it's okay to give them a whooping. If they see

713
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: me reason with my children, if they see me reason

714
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: with them, correct them, but.

715
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Reason with them, explain to them.

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: They tell them that they need to be quick what

717
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: they understanding, and they better be slow with trying to

718
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: just handle them any kind of way. Think about that

719
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: one It may cost you something.

720
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: Can you afford it?

721
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: Now becomes the question because once you do it, there's

722
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: no more conversation. The question becomes for you and yours.

723
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: Can you afford that? Because what you just did cost

724
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: you something. The police can't stop it, God can't stop it.

725
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: There's a coast for everything that's being done. And so

726
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: let me wrap that back around to Melissa Ford on

727
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: camera before Melissa Ford packed up and moved to New

728
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: York City from LA and left a life behind to

729
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: commit to the Joe Budnen podcast. If you asked me,

730
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: I would say, in her mind, there was nowhere that

731
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: I felt like you niggas was committed to misunderstanding what

732
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: I say. You niggas didn't say nothing last time. I

733
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: got all kind of shit off. I just showed you

734
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: out a video. You might have to come to Patroon

735
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: to see it YouTube. You know how they moved. But

736
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: I just showed you out a video. This ain't one

737
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: of them kind of things. I'm telling you. I'm showing you.

738
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing both. This is show and teil. I believe

739
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: what happened was the understanding. And again with podcasting, this

740
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 3: is big loon. You listening to the loud is popping

741
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: all in the tame and VG the media's vanguard. I

742
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: am because we are not we are because I am.

743
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: I believe when they first encountered a Lissa for. Joe

744
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: Budden was in a very strange situation. He had a

745
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: couple of guys on that that he felt like the

746
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: conversations were getting really steale, and although it was maintaining

747
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: a fan base, it was maintaining a certain consumption rate.

748
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: They work hard, but it wasn't baring any fruits. The

749
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: tree wasn't giving us any new fruits, any new sources

750
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: of income, anything we can do anymore capital. It was

751
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: just like stuck at a point, and Joe was doing

752
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: a lot of heavy lifting. They brought him a Lissa

753
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: for the acquisition of a Lissa for. To me, what

754
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: I think happened was they say, yo, just bring you,

755
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: just be you. I don't believe there was nowhere in

756
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: any kind of understanding that you would have to sit

757
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: here and talk about Cameron in Mace or some of

758
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: these things, and your takes have come out, and I

759
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: think this was good what she said, but they will

760
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: seem like it would be a commitment to misunderstanding your

761
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: take while everyone else would either be a plot or

762
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: that will be a respectable debate. That wouldn't be a

763
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: shunning of your understanding and whatever you really think that,

764
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh my God, you gotta be one of the dumbest

765
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: mother right. It was that, and maybe joeing them don't

766
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: know that because that's part of the entertainment factor. I

767
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: can imagine them Melissa Ford's man. You hear say, yo,

768
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: I ain't never been ribbed on. I really don't know

769
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: what that's like to be around me. And it's like

770
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: talking about you, Like, what the fuck is that? And

771
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: they're trying to say, Yo, it's pardon. This is what

772
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: podcast is. Like me and dude talk about each other

773
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: and we cool me and this other guy that we

774
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: really are friends, but we throw them back and forth.

775
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: This is pardon. She's like, yo, wow, that's really unfamiliar

776
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: for me. I don't really get out like that or

777
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: know about that. So now you ask yourself, how do

778
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: you take and make at least in her man when

779
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: I show up first, I was the start of scene.

780
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Now you make me the butter the joke.

781
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: It seems like we get into these weird segments where

782
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 3: is at my expense? And what it feels like Joe

783
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: Nim is trying to tell her is that everybody got

784
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 3: their little segment where it's at they expense ten fifteen,

785
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: twenty minutes. It's at your expense for these twenty You know,

786
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: how we get on it's kind of h your expense.

787
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: You know, they be getting on the light skinned gentleman

788
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: is there, They get on him, they get on the

789
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: other guy. They get on a few of these guys,

790
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: and they call it entertainment.

791
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 6: And it's just like, I'm a forty seven year old

792
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 6: black woman who has survived in the most misogynistic business

793
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 6: on the fucking planet and I'm still here. So wouldn't

794
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 6: it wouldn't logic dictate that I have a certain set

795
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 6: of experiences and wisdom that should be valued.

796
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying like that, And that's just that,

797
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: this is just how I feel.

798
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: Can I just say, wow, held up?

799
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: That's me And you can't. You can't tell somebody how

800
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 6: to respond to something. Fine, totally get that. And I

801
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: doubled down because I did not remember correctly.

802
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: You can't control the response.

803
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 11: It just is what it is at that point, and

804
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 11: you gotta eat whatever it is here.

805
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: I've seen some things.

806
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 11: Happen over the last few weeks. I've seen the people

807
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 11: you sit next to, especially these tup back you up

808
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 11: one hundred and ten percent. It just is what it is.

809
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 11: At some point, I would think the growth for you

810
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 11: is to accept that and just let it be. It's

811
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 11: not that hard. You're not in a room full of guys.

812
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 11: You're with family that just happen to be men. They're

813
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 11: not here to hurt you in the interest of entertainment.

814
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 11: Sometimes you just gotta let it be that. And when

815
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 11: people who are outside of this room question you about it,

816
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 11: sometimes it's not their business. This is family slash work business.

817
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 11: They will never understand.

818
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: Don't have nothing to do with race, ethnicity, nationality, or gender.

819
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: When you sit in front of these microphones on a

820
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: public broadcast that is of this size, it is everyone's

821
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: job here to mind their words. It is everyone's job

822
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: here to understand the words that are coming out of

823
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: their mouth, to understand the recourse that could come from

824
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: some explicit take, maybe a not so explicit take, A

825
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: take about this person, a take about the wrong person.

826
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: Everybody here has that gig.

827
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: That gig don't change because she's a woman or because

828
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 4: she's new to an all male space. If I went

829
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: to a podcast full of women, which I've done on

830
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: multiple occasions, and I say some nigga shit that do

831
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: sound nuts in a room full of women. I'm ready

832
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: for all of them to challenge me on it. I'm

833
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: ready to have the discourse and when we live ve

834
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: whatever comes from that comes from that, because I sat

835
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: here and this was the gig. But when you come

836
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: in and say shit like I misremembered something, When you

837
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: come in and throw some of the shit that she

838
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: has thrown around here, I won't say it. Man, woman,

839
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: pig count.

840
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: Anything that is a good point, I will give him that.

841
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: That's a great point. If for those of you that

842
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 3: are on YouTube that didn't see that part Joe Boden

843
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: was speaking about, yo, it's all good to say some

844
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: stuff and we bag you on it.

845
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: But when you come in and.

846
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: You say, y'all don't remember that, or I said it

847
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: wrong or something like that, it's like, oh shit, Like

848
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: it costs too much to be wrong in that way.

849
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 2: Like think about what.

850
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna say, so that even in the wrong, you

851
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: can at least tell us your thinking behind it. But

852
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: to come here and abandon ship, to come here and

853
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: abandon everything you said, that's what a problem is. If

854
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: I'm thinking what he's thinking and I can't lie, that

855
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: makes sense, But I'm speaking more so of how the

856
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: coach handle the team.

857
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: The body is.

858
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: Getting offended at that style of like that ship.

859
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: May have been cool at the other places that she's parted.

860
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure this is a very different scenario.

861
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: It's podcasting.

862
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: When you turn on the mic. It's all an act

863
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: of facade.

864
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: This is not rare to post that man after you

865
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: call out of work, after the ship that happened, that

866
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: we won't talk about.

867
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: I already gotta people, can I already have one that's

868
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: his man?

869
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: So what the fuck are we talking about?

870
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: Like, do that's you know?

871
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: You know what, niggas came in here and went to

872
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 4: war with a nigga that we've been trying to avoid

873
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: some more and with your man. Mh.

874
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: You know that ain't the time to see to me.

875
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: You know, I think he's right about that, but I

876
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: think it speaks to her emotions. I think it's like

877
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: having a woman in the house is unhappy and she

878
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: complaining when ain't nobody looking. Now she's starting to take

879
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: it to the public and you're saying, listen, this ain't

880
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: the time I'm running for office.

881
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: You niggas sound like you're running for office.

882
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, like you're going for governor

883
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: something right, because when you think about the reason why

884
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: she's now doing that is because homie, this is how

885
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 3: she feels. But I truly do understand this other side

886
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: of it, where it's like, yo, shorty, although you feel

887
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: alienated because we do do these things and the interest

888
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: of this thing and it could get blurry, but it

889
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: seems to be a pattern with Joe that people working

890
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: next to him, the lines get blurred in some way. Respect, disrespect, friends, enemies,

891
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: business partners, revenue. Sheaffs workers, bosses, a mice B mike

892
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: like it's just a thing happening. I can see how

893
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: they feel about her tweeting something that was disparaging to them,

894
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you hear them

895
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: talk about Cameron.

896
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: I'll say this in closing, there's nobody.

897
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: In this world that will make me believe that, regardless

898
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: of what's being said by that beautiful young lady that's

899
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 3: next to Cameron and Mace, that there will be no

900
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: one in this industry that takes shots at them and

901
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: call them bitches and holes and talk about them in

902
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: a way while they sit next to those guys, and

903
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: that don't affect that relationship. I don't see them letting

904
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: that happen without them standing standing up about that and

905
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: then at least taking some kind of position about that.

906
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: Like Homer, she apologized, Like after she apologized, you nigga's

907
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: gonna swing like that, bitch, stand on your apology. Damn,

908
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 3: these nigga won't war. This is really about the Joe

909
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: Budden nigga. Ain't what is this about?

910
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: Evennigga want problems. One't want no problem, but we definitely

911
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: ain't duging no problem. These niggas want problems. They want problems.

912
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: The fuck I look like when you dig this, ain't

913
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: no content shit in mind. I'm talking about from my

914
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: standpoint again, I'm fresh out of after suna.

915
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm fresh after summer, so I'm still sweating. I'm still

916
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm still hot boys, so I'm still looking at things

917
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: a little different. My understanding ain't how y'all nigga's in

918
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: this entertainment industry. So it's like, that's why you don't

919
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: hit me do too much. I talk about the information.

920
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: I talk about the things surrounding the business moves and

921
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: the indicators. I try to keep up with the industries,

922
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: the information. I'm one of them kinds, so I try

923
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: to steer away from that other shit. It's just the

924
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: truth said before everybody know what the truth is, dangerous

925
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: becomes radioactive. And I deal with that, and I'm okay

926
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: with that because I know I'll be correct and the

927
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: future favors the brave and the bowl and the willing

928
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: and to understand. But Cameron can't make me believe he'll

929
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: let some nigga call that girl business and hold after

930
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: he do nunapologize.

931
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: It's just me.

932
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: That's how I think about Cameron. I feel as though

933
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: Cameron one of them niggas like me, Yo, you don't

934
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: just handle no woman that's next to me, Like like,

935
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: you don't just we ain't doing that, bro, just like,

936
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: ain't no bitch gonna handle me no any kind of way.

937
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: She ain't finish. Just let no woman just do me

938
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: any kind of way.

939
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 3: But maybe Joe and them feel like Melissa ain't stepping

940
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 3: up for us. It ain't that type thing. So let's

941
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: not use the sister word the family. I love you word.

942
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: That's that rap game industry bullshit. I love you li

943
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: for meal. You're on the back of these nigga record labels.

944
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: Then they got you in fucked up contracts. That's this

945
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: business shit, that's this industry shit. These nigga hug you

946
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: and they ain't willing to help you. These niggas are

947
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: talk you out of being cool with niggas to help you,

948
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: just for them to laugh at you when you fall

949
00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: off this that industry shit. Sister, family, love one, I

950
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: love you, gang gang all. This is industry talk. When

951
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: a lot of these dudes is selling shit and they

952
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: know it's bullshit. Joe Budden is seeing the indicators, you

953
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: know that something's happening here, and so when closed and

954
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: I just think we need to keep an EyeT on

955
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: Melissa Ford. Again, I'm connected with some pretty powerful people.

956
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty powerful man myself. I think Melissa, for

957
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: we can match that contract if you're uncomfortable, just in

958
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: the interest of, you know, making sure that everyone is comfortable,

959
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: not trying to do on no like because by all means,

960
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's a great show over there.

961
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: That's why havn't broke it up. I think that the

962
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: podcast is great. But any event that you know you've

963
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: moved from LA and find yourself in need of work

964
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: because you no longer want to have the CEO all

965
00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: of your videos. Now, I wish I could have been

966
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 3: over there. Y'all clean that shit up, man, y'all clean

967
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: that shit up. Let's move on. I want to speak

968
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: about Honeycombe Brasey. For those of you don't know, Honeycombe

969
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: Brazy is an Alabama rapper native that you may be

970
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: familiar with his name. Unfortunately from the untimely demise of

971
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: his grandparents that were killed and the house caught on

972
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: fire down in Alabama. He has ties with j Prince

973
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: just got out of jail from doing a bid. When

974
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 3: he got out of jail, him and for next two

975
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: times with going at each other.

976
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: This was something I think.

977
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna speak a little bit about this here in

978
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: a second, but I want to focus on Honeycombe Brazy

979
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: being rearrested for some reason. Now I think he was

980
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: in a car with a couple of individuals and a

981
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: fire almost found controlled substance. He probably been out sixty days,

982
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: but they won't let him leave the town. So when

983
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: you won't let me leave, and it's almost like you

984
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: won't let me breathe, I can't get a breath of

985
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 3: fresh all around here. Is death and now get serious

986
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: out there. And people in them offices don't give a

987
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: damn about that. They don't even much know it till

988
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: it's too late. Nigga, be dead somewhere, and then they

989
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: just get the paperwork saying that one of the people

990
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: that's on probation out of their office is no longer here,

991
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 3: and they move on to the next name to call

992
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: in for a drug test. It's a dirty game human life.

993
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: Once you become a criminal, that's a whole other conversation.

994
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: Do they devalue human life after you make a mistake?

995
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: Of course, you sign all your rights over. They say,

996
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: you vote don't count, but you can work for free.

997
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: Your vote don't count, but they can get you a

998
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: job somewhere doing something for little or nothing, hurting your back.

999
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: We can work your vote. Nigga, you vote, don't wait

1000
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: nothing because you made a mistake. What if I can

1001
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 3: tell you exactly why I made the mistake, but y'all

1002
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: won't listen. And the only where you fix the problem

1003
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: is somebody that had the problem tell you the symptoms

1004
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: of the problem. But Honeycombe Brazer was rearresting off a

1005
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: fire on I can't lie man, I'm disappointed in rappers,

1006
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: though not because they make mistakes, because we all make them.

1007
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: I think it's more so about them season the moment

1008
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: and keep waiting, waiting, waiting. I'm saying, turn your people up,

1009
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: turn that shit on everything you got, turned every eye

1010
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: on the stove on. It's time right now. Not next year,

1011
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: not the next year, It's time right now.

1012
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Homie.

1013
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 3: You feel like you on fire. You don't know when

1014
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: that shit gonna go out. I know it don't seem

1015
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: like it's gonna go out. Boy, that shit seemed like

1016
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be lit. You ain't the only one's wrong.

1017
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: I be hot at them for our season a moment

1018
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: and getting they bags, but I be understanding what it's

1019
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: like being in those environments and where you rolling the

1020
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: dice they talking about. Don't be with a gun. Don't

1021
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: be around nobody with a gun. What you mean, how

1022
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: is it possible I will let me leave?

1023
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: I won't.

1024
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, now you can't leave. We got to keep a eye,

1025
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: you say, don't you know what I do'e been through

1026
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: around here? Don't you know the level of shit this?

1027
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: I see it all the time, even in this town,

1028
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Even every time I see it all the time. They

1029
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: don't even value human life. My nigga, you can say

1030
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: it's all kind of war going on. I'm saying as

1031
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: much as I can without telling on some niggas. I

1032
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: can't stay around here. I try to use I'm a rapper,

1033
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm a celebrity. I'm a ball player, I'm an athlete.

1034
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm a philanthropist. I do writing, I do pardon, I

1035
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: do this. I don't nothing work. They want me to

1036
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: stay in the jungle. They want me to be king

1037
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: of the jungle. It's easy to take him out. It's

1038
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: life outside the jungle. So as I find life outside

1039
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: of the jungle, they don't want to let me do that.

1040
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: You know how dangerous are lying there is downtown. You

1041
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: know how dangerous are lying there somewhere in a suburbian area.

1042
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: They need him to stay out in the wild, in

1043
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: the wood. They need him to stay out. Yeah, and

1044
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 3: people don't understand that. Like I remember telling some people,

1045
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 3: some elected officials in my city, right, I remember having

1046
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: a conversation with them and telling them, like, yo, you

1047
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: don't know what it's like to have to shed the

1048
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: corner store with the nigga that killed jo brother. Nah Nah,

1049
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: everybody live in this little area. It's like a five

1050
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: or ten mile radius. All are still living in this

1051
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: little area. So my mama go to that Walmart. Them niggas,

1052
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 3: mama go to that Walmart. I gotta shad these stores,

1053
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: these gas stations with the niggas that kill somebody. I

1054
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: love my niggas, So they put me out there as

1055
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 3: a target, as a rapper. I get out, get a bag,

1056
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: get with some high quality, high priced nigga. They put

1057
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: me in the middle of that war and tell me

1058
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: to survive a year and then we may consider it.

1059
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: We know you change when you survive without a gun

1060
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: and a place where they kill people you love, where

1061
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 3: you you might be involved in some things where people

1062
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: are killing people you love. I watched them go back

1063
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: and forth with for next two times, and that was

1064
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: that energy. I said, Yo, the energy hard to keep online.

1065
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: I know a lot of niggas try to do this

1066
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: shit for entertainment. A lot of these niggas are fake beef.

1067
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: At first, it really end up into it. First it

1068
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 3: started by some cloud nigga. I really don't like this nigga.

1069
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: Now that nigga was just trying to stream over at

1070
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: talking dumb shit. Now we really don't like this little nigga, Like,

1071
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: we really got to disdain for you. Nigga, you were

1072
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 3: chasing views, nogg you done caught an enemy. All they're

1073
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: chasing views, You done caught up with an enemy. Now

1074
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: you done got yourself some new enemies by chasing them

1075
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: views and shit hard to keep online. But what happens is,

1076
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: unlike rappers, a lot of these content guys can just

1077
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: hide out or when they move around, move with the police.

1078
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: These rap niggas can get expensive to move two three

1079
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: days a week in different times with all this security

1080
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: and moving around like it get expensive.

1081
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: And some niggas can do it.

1082
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: But all you fifteen thousand dollars show niggas ten grand

1083
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: a show niggas, Now when you gotta start paying out

1084
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: high right security and that you leaving every show with

1085
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: forty five hundred, which again for your safety.

1086
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: That's the rules you.

1087
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: That might be the rules you gotta play under, but

1088
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying a lot of people too selfish.

1089
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: To do that.

1090
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: They come from nothing. Niggas trying to keep everything. They

1091
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: don't want to get a lawyer, none to count the managers, nobody.

1092
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep it all. And so when you

1093
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: go live like that and you one of them guys

1094
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: from your town, that law enforcement may take you serious

1095
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: or they don't know if you're serious. They know you

1096
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: ain't playing because you ain't known to be a player.

1097
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 3: Somebody faking in fronting ain't nobody got them stories about

1098
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: you faking in front. Nigga can go live right now,

1099
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: turn the violence up into town just by saying certain shit.

1100
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: I remember back when I were younger, Nigga, Gucci and

1101
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: them nigga. That's how somebody got killed just off going

1102
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 3: on on the song.

1103
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: Yo, Get that nigga chain for me.

1104
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Nigga can raise the violence off some of these niggas mouthpieces.

1105
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: And so when law enforcement see you going back and

1106
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: forth with this dude, even though you laughing and joking,

1107
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: they may say, now that's a beef. Keep a eyeut

1108
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: on these guys. And most likely he got a gun.

1109
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 3: We don't know, And you gotta think about that. Now,

1110
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: what's crazy about honey Combe Brazen in my opinion, could

1111
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: be wrong, but he might have done some damage to

1112
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: for this image a little bit, because people see Braizys

1113
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: one of them crazy street dudes. People see for this

1114
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: as a street guy that'm been to jail light so

1115
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: they but it seemed like brazy.

1116
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1117
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: It's just when you look in the comments, and a

1118
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: lot of these comments and shit a manufactured, so you

1119
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: really can't go off that. But when I'm looking at this,

1120
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: like I never seen for this kind of get online

1121
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: do certain shit, So I can tell it was getting

1122
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: to him. Then he got his brother, you know what

1123
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I can kind of tell it's kind of

1124
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: getting to him. It's moving him a little bit. It's

1125
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: it's fucking with him a little bit. It almost feels

1126
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: like honey Comb done. Doesn't hurt his hurt his brand

1127
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: a little bit. I feel like honey Comb took a

1128
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: few shots at his brand. You know, he locked up.

1129
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: Now people are saying for this, celebrate him going to jail.

1130
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1131
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: That's nasty. I hope he ain't do that. You know

1132
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: that's nasty. Celebrating the nigga going to the jail house,

1133
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: it's nasty. I ain't gonna capt that's nasty. I don't

1134
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: know if he done that, but I ain't with that.

1135
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: You don't celebrate jail, you don't wish jail on. No

1136
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: nigga except the child un Let's let them niggas go

1137
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: through hell. Child molester's and rapists, motherfuckers, like, let them

1138
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: go through hell high water thye lids.

1139
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Off of something. But he kind of shift the narrative

1140
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: on him a little bit.

1141
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: I've seen his latest picture went viral and people like, oh, man,

1142
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: so you know, I don't know. I just think honey

1143
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: Combe Bras had a very genuine chance. If you saw

1144
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: he had Birdman next to him, j Prince Birdman flew

1145
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: out way to Alabama fuck with him in the middle

1146
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: of the war, came to his traps. See Birdman, and

1147
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: nigga moved proper, all the security all the yeah, we good,

1148
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: let's move bulletproof whatever.

1149
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm having that kind of paper.

1150
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: So he moving a certain way, niggas moving a certain

1151
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: security whatever, whatever. And he was on his way. He

1152
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 3: was trending on his music and he went to jail.

1153
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: We'll see how they played. I'm sure they're gonna say, Yo,

1154
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: that wasn't his. They'll figure that out. We'll see. Let's

1155
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: move on. I want to talk about QCP Coach Kate

1156
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: going to see li Yati and the homie Mitch on

1157
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: the Safe Place podcast. Shout out to the homies, shout

1158
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: out to the family, you know them guys.

1159
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: Podcast has been doing great.

1160
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: I really can appreciate the editing, shout out, full sin,

1161
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: shout out, happy dad like collaborations and integrations for them,

1162
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: boards round, no applause for them, guys taking care of

1163
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 3: their bid. They had coaching p on there, and I'm

1164
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: sure I'll get them on soon. Every time we see

1165
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: each other, I'll just be like, Yo, we're gonna we're

1166
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: gonna get it done. I'm telling you, it's just a

1167
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 3: phone call, so we're gonna have some great conversation. I

1168
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: believe they had a great conversation on here. I want

1169
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: to play a particular part of it and just have

1170
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: a conversation surrounding it. Again, we having a podcast. It's

1171
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: our last one another year, so we want to leave

1172
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: y'all with something. A couple of our core fans who

1173
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: love us, a couple of our new fans on YouTube.

1174
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: We want you to know that behind the paywall on Patreon,

1175
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: this is what they get. They get the solo parts. Well,

1176
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: we go through the culture, speak about the culture, have

1177
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: a great time. But let's talk about coaching p Let's

1178
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: listen to a particular part of this interview and then

1179
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: we'll go from there.

1180
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 12: But but then before all that was world star yea,

1181
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 12: world stars for like singles and videos like that.

1182
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 8: I was I was one, you know, like one of

1183
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 8: the big markets. We got to get the big top right, Yeah,

1184
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 8: but then once your artists start popping though, me and him,

1185
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 8: We're gonna listen, man, you know you want to know

1186
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 8: you want this Migos video for your top box. So

1187
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 8: then if we give you Migos and you got you

1188
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 8: got other artists, you go bunder, you know what I'm saying.

1189
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 8: So we've leveraging so you might look up QC. We

1190
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 8: might have the time box and the two boy.

1191
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1192
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 12: You gotta you gotta play how you play.

1193
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 8: But I'm to go back to that though, Yes she was,

1194
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 8: and the crazy shit is with Migos. As soon as

1195
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 8: Migos we got out the three hundred, we got out

1196
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 8: the three hundred.

1197
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: Let me just say this for those of you that

1198
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: never had a conversation with Coach K like the treat

1199
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: that it is the wealth of information that Coach K is.

1200
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: I think it needs to be celebrated, and it's not

1201
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 3: noted the level of business mind that he has, the humbleness.

1202
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: We went through something at a particular event together that

1203
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 3: I just you know me, I'm an information. I'm just

1204
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: kind of watching how everybody interact. I said, he's probably

1205
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: one of those guys in his industry that is really

1206
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: who he is on camera, him and p these dudes

1207
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: the same off camera, but Coach K in particular, right now,

1208
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: you hear him talking about leveraging. Him talking about business

1209
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: is always business. It's always some kind of game business conversation.

1210
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: When you go around these guys. It ain't all that

1211
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: low level bulls shit niggas holing about Texas and leveraging

1212
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: and companies.

1213
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: And I pos and nigga what they handling business?

1214
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 8: Pay attention still had this last album, but once we

1215
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 8: once we agreed upon terms, we put it. We put

1216
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 8: a record out called Bad and Boochie.

1217
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: Do it look like I'm what you say? Do it

1218
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: look like I'm blip o better Booch.

1219
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 8: And guess what we did? This is the first time

1220
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 8: since we've been QC. Then we put a song up.

1221
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 8: We leaked the song up on SoundCloud because we would

1222
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 8: usually go through the mixtape sites, yep, and help we

1223
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 8: liaked it on SoundCloud and shit, I never forget Bro.

1224
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 8: The boys went on the road about three weeks later.

1225
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 8: I remember them come out the road like, hey man,

1226
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 8: everybody knows this song.

1227
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: Not that other people wasn't doing it, but was other

1228
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: companies doing it at that time on that level, right

1229
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 3: when you had the world stars there, when you had

1230
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: that And I'm talking about a priority record, like a

1231
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: record that we believe in, but we're gonna go to

1232
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: SoundCloud route where all the free people.

1233
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: That and let them lift it up.

1234
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: Let them lift that record to the next level, versus

1235
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 3: going through those mixtape sites in that budget to pay

1236
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: all of that to try to cut through the noise

1237
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: and some of the noise we help create. See, this

1238
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: is what I tell you about why when you get

1239
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: in the music business, you want to integrate with the

1240
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: label some kind of way. Like for my podcast this year,

1241
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: my job is to understand how to integrate with some

1242
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: of these labels because what happens is they'll help lift

1243
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: that up. And to be honest with you, a lot

1244
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: of the marketing it's done in particularly for artists, it's

1245
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 3: part of a package deal that it's like uneffective. Now

1246
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: it does kind of just take up digital real estate, right,

1247
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: meaning they see you in more places.

1248
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1249
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: So I think it has a value from that perspective.

1250
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: But if we go dollar for a dollar on marketing

1251
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: in the music business, especially as it pertains the social media,

1252
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: once you hit some of these top sites, the rest

1253
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 3: of that money you spending, you really can't quantify how

1254
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: effective that is. And so if you could be just

1255
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 3: as effective or a little bit under effective as some

1256
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: of those social media sites that are banging and booming,

1257
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: you can integrate. But these dudes were innovative, in my opinion,

1258
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: that approach to say, you know what, I'm gonna go

1259
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: ahead and take this music over the SoundCloud, a properly

1260
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: mixed record, a real record. From a label perspective. Again,

1261
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: I ain't talking about the artists going to leak some

1262
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: on SoundCloud.

1263
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: Y'all. Please keep up.

1264
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: When I'm having conversations in my brain, I can hear

1265
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: some of these niggas in the comments saying, man, people

1266
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: was doing that on SoundCloud.

1267
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about from.

1268
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: A label perspective, the label win it said on SoundCloud.

1269
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Throw that out.

1270
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: From my understanding, a lot of the SoundCloud music where

1271
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: the artists just getting tired of the label and running

1272
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: over there and dumping shit off. Whether they count towards

1273
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 3: the deal or not, they just dumping music to feed

1274
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: their people.

1275
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: Pay attention though.

1276
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 13: Yeah ASO also like what really changed for us though,

1277
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 13: was that's when we started understanding that it was just

1278
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 13: bigger than music. Because music was like bad then. We

1279
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 13: was just like, we're just trying to get paid off

1280
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 13: the music. But it's like when you came and all

1281
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 13: the brands started coming in, all the different corporations, you

1282
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying, and you would think that we

1283
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 13: would have been getting them opportunities big as those guys

1284
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 13: was back then. But we never had got no opportunities

1285
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 13: until like you came in, and that's when all the

1286
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 13: and then once we started seeing all these brands and

1287
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 13: these different corporations coming in and want to do the checks,

1288
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 13: these multis like.

1289
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 12: I want you to check it out, like like and

1290
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 12: it's like they're like, oh, but you support you know,

1291
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 12: you posted these people music or something. But it's like

1292
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 12: that then line of like, man, you gotta support what.

1293
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 8: You like for the longest I ain't gonna live. It

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 8: was super nice to everybody, but it came a point

1295
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 8: in life where just for myself healing, you got to

1296
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 8: say no to some things, you know what I'm saying.

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01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: And I think it's just.

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 8: Honesty and being real, you know what I'm saying. So

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 8: I'm at a point now. I used to get that

1300
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 8: ship all the time and I'll be like, yeah, yeah,

1301
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 8: but now just be like, man, listen, I can't do it.

1302
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 13: I say no, but belim meate you saying what is

1303
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 13: it gonna hurt you though to post it?

1304
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 12: But I mean, I tell you, it hurts your credibility.

1305
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 12: If you continue to post things that aren't good, then

1306
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 12: it'll look like you don't have a taste for music.

1307
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 12: If you continue to post tons of content that are

1308
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 12: low quality, it looks like, oh, even no good music,

1309
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 12: you know.

1310
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: And then when you.

1311
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 12: Post something that it's good, people don't give it there

1312
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 12: to look at it. Because you got fifty story posts

1313
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 12: a fifty artist, it ain't good. That's why content. I think,

1314
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 12: let's let's quantity higher quality, you know.

1315
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: So that's what it is. It hurts.

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: It hurts you, but.

1317
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes we don't know.

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 13: Though I never looked at it like that, but I

1319
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 13: do feel like you should support.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: Your friends and support good.

1321
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 12: But what we just say, support everybody you like somebody

1322
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 12: you're gonna support?

1323
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 8: No friends with Pete Man, I might get a cug you.

1324
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 13: Know, but but but what is it gonna hurt?

1325
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: Because it do.

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01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 13: I can understand where the friends coming from, because I mean,

1327
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 13: I see it done to me all the time. You

1328
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying. I see people supporting other people

1329
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 13: stuff and they might not necessarily support me.

1330
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, many support my ship.

1331
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 13: Nigga nigga, and the reason like whatever whatever you feel

1332
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 13: what I'm saying, and you do. You might do feel

1333
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 13: a certain kind of way because you want your friends

1334
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 13: to support you just like you support them. So you

1335
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 13: got to understand from they standpoint, like, hey, you might

1336
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 13: be out help supporting a stranger. You know what I'm saying,

1337
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 13: Like my us it might not My music might not

1338
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 13: be good. And this song, this song that I asked

1339
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 13: you the post might not necessarily be good. But somebody

1340
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 13: don't like it. And you, you know what I'm saying.

1341
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 13: You might don't like it, but there's other people out

1342
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 13: there that might like it. You know what I'm saying.

1343
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 13: You helping me get visibility it's like helping me. You

1344
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 13: feel what I'm saying.

1345
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 3: So I kind of understand both sides of this, right,

1346
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 3: I stand by like the visibility part of this, and

1347
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 3: to be fruitful with that to people you know, you're

1348
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 3: cool with or you care about, I can appreciate that,

1349
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: especially when you're in a position it's like, yo, I

1350
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: got two choices.

1351
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: I can empower you, or I can try to enhance you. Right.

1352
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: If I empower you, if I don't think it's good,

1353
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: I can. If I think it's good, I can single

1354
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: handedly do bedding it with you and turn it into something.

1355
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: But if I don't do that, maybe I can enhance

1356
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: it and somebody else maybe condunct that ball and know

1357
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 3: what to do with that.

1358
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't now. If you somebody i'm cool with, I

1359
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: can understand that.

1360
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: I can also understand coach, though, where it's like, yo,

1361
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: my peace, I don't even want to have the conversations

1362
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 3: about this shit. If I don't organically want to post it,

1363
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to have no conversation about me posting nothing.

1364
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 3: Don't call me and ask me to post nothing. And

1365
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: sometimes you got to protect yourself in that way as well.

1366
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: I understand both sides of that, y'all in the comments,

1367
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: tell me your side, like your.

1368
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: Job there with your music.

1369
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 13: I mean, you ain't like you got to post it

1370
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 13: on your on your main page, SA put it on

1371
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 13: your little story.

1372
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: I used to notice that though you know they notice

1373
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Putting the close friends bro.

1374
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 8: Certain things, I'd be like, all right, cool, you know

1375
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 8: what I'm saying.

1376
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: But I get what he's saying.

1377
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 14: But sometimes sometimes but you do just gotta support though

1378
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 14: sometimes sometimes I don't know, like because I don't like it,

1379
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 14: you know what I'm saying, So I do somebody somebody

1380
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 14: if it's terrible, but I cannot. I just it don't

1381
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 14: make sense. I don't feel like it makes sense for

1382
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 14: that's what I'm saying. Don't make sense to do put

1383
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 14: you on the on the on this, you know, in

1384
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 14: front of people, and I know that it's it's terrible

1385
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 14: if I don't know that I post it.

1386
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 13: I don't know everything, but you know how many things

1387
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 13: that I thought was terrible, that that went, that I

1388
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 13: passed on and that or dup me and that end

1389
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 13: up being like.

1390
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna lie either though, I'm gonna be real.

1391
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: That's why, you know, I appreciate Pee and his spirit

1392
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: because I ain't gonna even lie to you. I got

1393
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: some homeboys, I ain't really I ain't posting that shit.

1394
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: If it's that thing, though, I'm gonna post it though

1395
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: I ain't even gotta know you. If it's that thing,

1396
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna post it. You ain't even gotta hit me.

1397
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: But I got people that I know that now. I

1398
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: ain't really posting that though. Brother, with all due respect,

1399
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: though that ain't I ain't doing that. And if that

1400
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: break up our relationship, fuck your relationship. I be looking

1401
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: for shit that like exposed the weak relationships any way.

1402
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1403
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: If something like that will break a whole relationship down, man,

1404
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: that nigga that is mentally unwell. I need to stay clear,

1405
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: stand clear, because they ain't gonna do nothing but trick

1406
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: me into going back to a spot I don't want

1407
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: to be in. So stan clear, stay away, and I'm

1408
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: gonna keep hustling. But I think both of them said

1409
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 3: they'll support it's just certain things, you know, and Pete

1410
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: do that too. Peace only supporting certain things. Everything ain't

1411
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: going He just is he big on like knowing that

1412
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 3: his support mean a lot to motherfuckers. You see what

1413
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the business side of this shit'll warp you though.

1414
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: All the business side of beat you down, and you'll

1415
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: be like, man, fuck all that man.

1416
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: If it ain't my shit, keep it away from me.

1417
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,799
Speaker 3: I keep telling people to take a lot of bandwidth

1418
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: just to keep these things afloat, all these big companies,

1419
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 3: all this big shit you see going on.

1420
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: It is not an easy run.