1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: and Getty and he I'm strong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump meets with a group of senior national 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: security advisors to further discuss what exactly to do next 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: with this situation with Iran, with possible military strikes high 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: on that list of considerations. On the other side of 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: this right now, Iran saying it remains open to diplomacy 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: but is quote prepared for warped. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Iran wants to Negotia. Yes, we may meet with them. 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's a meeting is being set up, but 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: we may have to act because of what's happening before 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the meeting. But a meeting is big set up call. 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: They wanted to Negotia. We may have to act before 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the meeting happens. Mark Halpern and his newsletter today predicting 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: kinetic action from the United States in Iran in the 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: next seventy two hours. I'm looking up at CBS News 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: happy to see their leading with this story because I 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: think it's pretty big since the United States might be 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: going to war with a really big country they have 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: up their death toll in Iran protests surpasses six point forty. 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: That's a lower number than almost everybody else's reporting, including 23 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: open source intelligence. We mentioned this last hour according to 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the editorial board of the Iran International. No idea what 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: that is, and I'm sure they have reasons to make 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: the number as big as possible. 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Katie can figure out what that publication is. It certainly 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: sounds like it's an ex pat application. At least twelve 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: thousand people have been killed so far by security forces 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: and calling it the largest massacre in contemporary Iranian history. Well, 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: if you've got the largest protest. 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: In contemporary Iranian history and the government seems to be 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: going all out and trying to quell it, it only 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: the math adds up to me to have the largest 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: number of people killed. 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: It'd be difficult to explain if that wasn't the case, 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: or at least close to being true right now. 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting that the way the news report 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: put it, many people believing Trump needs to act, well, 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: there's many people believe Trump doesn't need to act. A 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: lot of people have voted for Trump, including JD. Vance 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: would be on that Wall Street Journals reporting today the 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: White House is weighing a last ditch Iranian offer to 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: engage in diplomacy as President Trump currently leans toward authorizing 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: fresh military strikes on Iran. US officials say some senior 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: administration aids, led by Vice President jd Vance, are urging 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Trump to use diplomacy as opposed to retaliating with military actions. 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: So jd Vance is a don't get involved militarily kind 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: of guy. Now. Tim's version of this story is President 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: Trump is exploring options for diplomacy with Iran as he 51 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: weighs whether to attack the country, and this is the 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: new news. The Pentagon is presenting a wider range of 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: strike options to Trump than has previously been reported. Possible 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: targets include Iran's nuclear program, again going beyond the US 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: air strikes that battered it in June, various ballistic missile sites, 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: and other things. Right, yeah, I protest the phrase getting 57 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: involved with Iran or going to war with Iran, because 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: we have the capability to hit and run if we want. 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily one hundred percent great long term plan, 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: but we can absolutely. Do they attack a country like that, 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: You're going to war with it, aren't you? Now? If 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: they decide not to fight back, it ain't much of 63 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: a war. I guess it's already over. 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: Well, no, again, the phrase leads you to believe it's 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: an ongoing conflict. I would say strike Iran. 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: The narrower options include a cyber attack or a strike 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: against Iran's domestic security apparatus, which is. 68 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: You love the cyber idea interfere with their ability to 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: communicate and coordinate. 70 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Any chance we assassinate the iatola? Do you think we 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: would if we could? Do you think we should if 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: we could? And then would we if we could? 73 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: I would have to think about that for a long time. Sorry, 74 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: it's a tough one. It It all has to do 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: with what would happen next. 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: I would guess that you couldn't fly into Venezuela and 77 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: snatch up the president and get him out alive and 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: put him on a plane, given all the you know, 79 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: heads up that they had, that that could happen, but 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: we did so. The fact that the Iotola is supposedly 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: in hiding, well, does that mean we might wait, we 82 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: might have a guy you know, his chef might be 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: working for the CIA. Come on, I hate to work 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: your side of the street. But go in there and 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: yank him out by his beard, grab him by the beard, 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: having a dangling from a helicopter by the beard. Why 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: him out of there? Now you've turned bizarre and sick. 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, I suppose it could happen. I'm not sure 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: that would be the best thing. I think it'd be 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: better if the Iranian people did it themselves. 91 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know. What's next is always the question. 92 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: Though, when you overthrow a regime, and how does what's 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: next take shape? And how can we influence that. The 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: idea of negotiating with the Iranian regime right now strikes 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: me as idiotic. I'd like to talk to jd Vance 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: about that. I mean, what are the chances they're going 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: to that they're just trying to buy time? What are 98 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: the chances they're going to negotiate in good faith and those. 99 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: Agreements will hold over the long term? They're a zero percent? Yeah? Please? 100 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: What are we even talking? I don't know. I don't 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: get that kind of politics. I think he's a I 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: think he's a what's the term you use, what's the 103 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: one being strainer? I always beyond restrainer. I think he's 104 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: a full on isolation isolationist. I think he's damn near 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: an isolationist. We make him a fool. I can't. Well, 106 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: you just said there's a zero chance they wouldn't honor 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: any agreement, So yeah, I don't. I don't get it either. 108 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: It's like going back to Bernie Madoff and saying, all right, 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: you got one more chance, I'll invest with you again. 110 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: There's nothing in their history to indicate that they can 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: negotiate in good faith. 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Nothing. Iran has been the top couple of enemies of 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: the United States for half a century. I think they've 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: killed more soldiers in any country. I'm sure this than 115 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: any enemy we've got on Earth. They've killed more of 116 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: our people. I got no problem with taking out the 117 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: top guy on this one. Well, okay, but I don't. 118 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we probably could so. 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: On a different angle. And this is absolutely fabulous. I'm 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: going to quote Gerard Baker of The Journey. Oh oh, Katie, 121 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: do you have that information on the Iran International. 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like it's based out of London, and 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 4: it's high in the opposition to the Islamic Republic, and 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: it's it's licensed in Europe. 125 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a legit news source. I would guess 126 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: their number is closer to righte than CBS's six hundred 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: and forty. 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Do you think that's likely? Right? Yes? Yeah, 156 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: if I had to bet, I do think so. Yeah. 157 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: So I want to get to the where the hell 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: are the protests angle? And there's a fair amount to it. 159 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: It's more than that. Just simple question, but real quickly 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 3: in this segment a really good article by Austin Ramsay 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: about how if China is your buddy, like a bridge 162 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: over troubled waters, they will get the hell out of town. 163 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: When Maduro was under stressed, China was like, yeah, who 164 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: dis don't recognize your number. And now that Iran is struggling, 165 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: their brave friend in proxy, Iran who they buy a 166 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: bunch of oil from, and all the Iatola can't get 167 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: a call back from the Chinese communists and everybody who's 168 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: talking about the was it brink or flinker or zinc 169 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: or something the well, no, it's different because it includes 170 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: North Korea. All right, yeah, China era sinc maybe like 171 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: Stuart Sync the pro golfer. But I mean, you want 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: to talk about the axis of a holes and if 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: you form an access with a holes when things get tough, 174 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: they're gonna act like a holes. 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: You know why, because they're a holes. 176 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: So evidently China is about the worst friend you could 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: possibly have. And this is good, though, more countries need 178 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: to look at that and think, oh wow, wait a minute, 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: CHESI and Pink came with a hard cell. But the 180 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: minute things get a little rough, he hits the road 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: forget it. 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: Do you think, because then we're really at war. If 183 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Iran retaliates the way they're claiming, they say they got 184 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: their sights on a number of bases. We have something 185 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: like thirty thousand people in the near area, you know, 186 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: we got people all over the Middle East. 187 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: Put them on hy alert, fire up the air defenses, 188 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: and let the paper tiger roar all at once. 189 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: They are weak. Iran is weak t manage him wanting 190 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: to actually jump ugly with us. 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: Oh and if I'm a revolutionary guard guy, I'm thinking 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: Namolas on his way out where the obvious inheritor. Because 193 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: we have the power structure, maybe we can talk to 194 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: a Jade Vans and Company. 195 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: The one thing I ain't gonna do is go to 196 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: war with the Marines, the US Marines. No effing way. Yeah, 197 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: that's why I want to yanked. I told out. I 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: think the Revolutionary Guard takes over. I think they take 199 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: the beard. I think the Revolutionary Guard says, fine, we 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: don't need a nuclear weapon. We just want to run 201 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: this country and be rich. 202 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: Keeping in mind, the Revolutionary Guard is also a giant corporation. 203 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: They own all sorts of companies rights. It's a graft enterprise. 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: They just want to keep the money fly. 205 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: I doubt they care a lot about the whole Islam thing, 206 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: depends which guy you're talking to, but a lot less 207 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: than the malas Yep. I was talking to Mohammad, not 208 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Muhammad oh Mohammad oh oh. He doesn't give a crap. 209 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: We got more of all this and a bunch of 210 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: other stuff on the way. Stay here. Complate a pretty 211 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: definitive strong statement about anti Semites in the Republican Party 212 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: to the New York Times doesn't get much attention because 213 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't work for the whole He's evil thing. Got 214 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: to check in on the Supreme Court and their oral 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: arguments around the whole trans athlete thing, and a couple 216 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: of interesting things I've just come across. I want to 217 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: talk about that movie that's getting so much attention one 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: battle after another that a lot of y'all are worked 219 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: up about a whole bunch of other stuff. So hope 220 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: you can stay here. Uh, condolence is rest in peace. 221 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: It's too bad in One of America's favorite creative artists 222 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 3: over the last fifty years has passed away. 223 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: That would be Scott Adams, who Drew Dilbert. He died, Yeah, 224 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: he passed. 225 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 3: He's been sick in recent years, become a online the 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: thinker for vocateur. 227 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Who was alive as of last night when I was 228 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: reading some of his stuff. So yeah, at least that's 229 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: the word that's out. Wow, okay, that there was really 230 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: these last words. He recorded a podcast I think yesterday. 231 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: He was a. 232 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: Classic example of a guy who even if I disagreed 233 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: with him, I'd think, wow, okay, Scott Adams thinks that 234 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: I disagree with that. I need to dig into why 235 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: he thinks that and take another look at my ideas. 236 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: I just loved him as a thinker and as a cartoonist. 237 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: He was absolutely brilliant and wonderful. Anyway, So I promised 238 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: you this, and I want to give it to you. 239 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Gerard Baker with a fabulous, fabulous righteous peach in the 240 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal, Iran cracks down where the Western protesters, 241 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: and you know, he describes what's happening, what is so 242 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: different about the cause that they've been espousing in their 243 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: demonstrations over Gaza, in the cause of millions of innocent 244 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: coreligionists a thousand miles to the east of what's happening 245 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: in Iran. Those Kafia wearing banner waving slogan channing activists 246 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: say they were moved to protests, sometimes violently and unlawfully, 247 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: by the plight of Muslims dispossessed of their lands and livelihoods, starved, beaten, 248 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: and murdered by a savage regime in Iran. 249 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: This has been happening for decades. 250 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: More than three million Iranians have been driven from their 251 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: homeland in the forty seven years of the Mullah's rule. 252 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: People have been forced into prisons, literal ones, not the 253 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: metaphorical open air prison of Gaza or driven in exile 254 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: in foreign lands, their homes and property stolen. 255 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: The loves went punished and frequently murdered. 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: Over the past two weeks, the clash between good and 257 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: evil has seemed to be approaching a climax. 258 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Brutality is escalated. 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: Where are the student radicals disrupting classes? We all marveled 260 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: at queers for Palestine. Why don't we have queers for Iran, 261 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: a country who's official attitude toward homosexual homosexuality is similar 262 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: to Hamas's. Where are the movie stars and pop icons 263 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: with their beautifully produced video plea for justice? Why haven't 264 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: we heard condemnations from Zoron Mandani, the Mayor of New York, 265 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: or Sadik Khan, the Mayor of London, pledging solidarity with 266 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: the Iranians and demanding the end of the theocratic occupation. 267 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: Why hasn't dear little Greta Tunberg gotten herself arrested for 268 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: passionately supporting the Iranian people against their overlords. Where it's 269 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: the international criminal courts cracked team of lawyers to investigate 270 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: crimes against humanity initia issue indictments against Ali Jamini around 271 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: supreme leader and the country's president, as they did for 272 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Benjamin nettnak. 273 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Now a lot of all those At the end, I 274 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: definitely agree with. I mean the fact that the you know, 275 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: your international bodies, ooh, and it's Israel. In the United States, 276 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: we got all kinds of sanctions and tough words. But 277 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: if it's the Iranian government, you're busy with other things. 278 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: But for the college kids, is it fair to say, well, 279 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: they don't get worked up about stuff they don't think 280 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: they have any control over. Like they feel like I'm 281 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: protesting my country being involved in doing this. 282 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: We're not involved in you know what the Mullahs are doing. Yeah, 283 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: that is partly it. That's how you get them to 284 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: turn out to some extent. But the actual plan, as 285 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: we've discussed before, is the whole neo Marxist settler colonial thing. 286 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: If you can establish that anybody who took over a 287 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: land mass is illegitimate, you can overthrow them. And since 288 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: they intend to replace democracy in Western civilization with Marxism, 289 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: any justification for overthrowing the regime is a good one. 290 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: You're racist, your homophobes, your transphobes, you're the patriarchy, you're 291 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: white supremacists whatever, or your settler colonialists. They're just looking 292 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: for something to say, you're illegitimate, therefore we can overthrow you. 293 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: And Israel was the perfect test case because it's a 294 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: small country and it's surrounded by armed enemies. You're not 295 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: gonna overthrow the United States, except very slowly by perverting 296 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: the children's minds. So they thought Israel might be a 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: win for the whole settler colonial Marxism thing. 298 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Nobody cares what celebrities think anymore, thank god, I mean, 299 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: a very very small chunk of Americans any more care 300 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: about these award shows and what they say. But nobody 301 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: was wearing pins for the Iranian people, and you know, 302 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: doing little shout outs when they got their award for 303 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm standing with the Uranian people in the crowd cheers 304 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: and stands up and everything like that, like happened with 305 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: the Palestinians. At an amurb of award show. There were 306 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: several people at the Golden Globes wearing pins on behalf 307 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: of the woman got shot in Minneapolis. Yeah, yeah, women 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: are getting raped and murdered for showing their hair and 309 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: you are just not interested. Okay, that's interesting. 310 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even bother to get annoyed with the 311 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: like the usual suspects at their awards show with their pins. 312 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: I had a very pretty moment of oh my god, 313 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: but then it passed because nobody cares major Epstein news. No, 314 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing. Oh my god. That wasn't even a micro trigger. 315 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: That was a full scale trigger an attempt. The Clintons, 316 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Bill and Hillary have refused to testify in the Epstein 317 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: investigation before Congress they had been speened and they have 318 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: said they will not show up. So trying to blame 319 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: them this is a rare case. I'm on the side 320 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: of Hillary and Bill. I wouldn't show up either. No 321 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: the hell, Yeah, what are we doing here? Yeah? I guess. 322 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Back to the Scott Adams thing. 323 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the last word was he was in hospice and 324 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: didn't have very long but a friend tweeted seventeen minutes 325 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: ago Scott Adams just passed, Wow. 326 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: That's something he I think he did a podcast as 327 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: recently as yesterday. I know he did one the day 328 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: before and he said he said he felt horrible, he 329 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: can't he can't use his legs anymore. This was yesterday, 330 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: and he said, but he's going to keep doing the 331 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: podcast as long as he can. Yeah, and he got 332 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: the prostate cancer got him, which gets very few people. 333 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: But you know, if something is ninety five percent curable, 334 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: that means one out of twenty it ain't curable. Yeah, Yeah, 335 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: God rest his soul, great artist. So are we gonna 336 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: finally get the answer around the whole trans athletes in 337 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: high school stuff out of the Supreme Court? 338 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: If you're saying you already have the answer, But yes, 339 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: it would be nice if it was codified. 340 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: In law again. Supreme Court listening to oral arguments today. 341 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Some interesting details have come across, and we'll lay out 342 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: what's going to happen there coming up. I hope you 343 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: can stay with us, Armstrong and Getty. 344 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: Now, a central question the year four justices is does 345 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: Becky have a specific competitive advantage since she's been on 346 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: hormone therapy and has not yet technically gone through puberty. 347 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: Now, West Virginia's Attorney. 348 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: General says this law is about protecting girls and fairness 349 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 5: at sports, not violating Title nine, and he says that 350 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 5: Becky could still compete just on the boys team. 351 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 6: Women and girls all across this country deserve a safe 352 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 6: and fair playing field. Always when they're introduced into girls sports, 353 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 6: teams displace them. They take their places on podiums, they 354 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 6: take their places in championships, then they take away their 355 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 6: opportunities for scholarships. 356 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: So while they're going to get into the actual today, 357 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: arguing in the Supreme Court about whether or not there's 358 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: a biological advantage to dudes over women, now known as 359 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Pepper says that people don't understand what's going on in 360 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: this case. 361 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 5: I wish these people would educate themselves just so they 362 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 5: would know that I'm just start to have a good time. 363 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: That's a Oh, she just started to have a good time. 364 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: That's good, Michael. Uh oh. If you're just starting to 365 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: have a good time, then go ahead. Dude should be 366 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: able to beat girls at their sports and win the 367 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: medals and get the scholarships and literally beat them down. 368 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, depending on the sport, well, unless you 369 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: beat people down. In track, you do it however you want. 370 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: I just try to run the fastest, but maybe you 371 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: throw a punch as you're going around the outside corners. 372 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: Offense is good defense in track as well as other sports. 373 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: That's what I say. You got album right off the track. 374 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: So there are two cases go on on today, let 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: me go at the silly angle before Joe goes with 376 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: the serious angle, since he almost went to law school. 377 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: So you know how in literature and movies, the authors 378 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: often use a name that gives away the characters demeanor 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Sure like Harry Potter was full 380 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's Dickens was really 381 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: big on under whatever you have you know, you know 382 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: you have a woman named do Gooder or something like that. 383 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: And that movie One Battle after Another, which I plan 384 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: to talk about because I watched half of it yesterday. 385 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: The Sean Penn character, So he won the award the 386 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: other day for Best Actor. He's gonna win the oscar 387 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: To I can't imagine him losing because he is freaking 388 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: phenomenal in this movie. It's his best role ever. But 389 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: is his character this military heart asks his name is Lockjaw. 390 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: It's one of those names. And so is this from 391 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court Oral arguments one of the cases and 392 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: this person is trying to get out of it? How 393 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: did we all miss that? In the Indiana case, this 394 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: person born a dude who decided they're a woman, is 395 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: named Lindsey Hee Cox. 396 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: Oh your name is he Cox. Oh my, that's too much. No, 397 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: that's that's they've got to disallow. 398 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: That can't be named Hea Cox. No as a woman 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: with a penis and argue in the Supreme Court. 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: I believe the plaintiff's attorney, Miss Chaouvary, is now prepared 401 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: to address the coot. 402 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: That is really something antyway Lindsay Heacox, the transgender college 403 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: student who challenged the state law in Idaho, is now 404 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: a senior at Boise State, no longer participating in sports, 405 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: and says they don't want to be involved. So the 406 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: justices are actually going to decide today whether or not 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: to dismiss that case and whether it'll just be the 408 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: other case. 409 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: Miss her Uterus, would you like to respond? All right, listen, 410 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: here's a controversial take. It'll probably get us banned from 411 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: the airwaves. Katanji Brown Jackson, Henry, I've got a dick 412 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: is gonna be competing in the boy? 413 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: What is that Swedish? 414 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: All right, here's your controversial take, Katanji Brown Jackson is 415 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: either there are only two choices. 416 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: She is either a just. 417 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: Blatant dei hire who is incompetent for a job, or 418 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 3: she is a progressive activist who's not there to seek 419 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: the truth or interpret the Constitution. She's there to further 420 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: progressive aims. Here's my evidence. She was questioning the attorney 421 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: that defending the state. She's objecting that the state fails 422 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: to address that a subset of transgender students can show 423 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: that they have no such advantage. There might be a 424 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: boy masquerading as a girl who's so weak and terrible 425 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: at sports, they don't have an advantage. That argument comes 426 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: up a lot, and it's a stupid one. It's a stupid, 427 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: stupid argument. The idea that because one male might be 428 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: able to well lose to women negates the idea that 429 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: we should have men's and women's sports. 430 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: Are you insane? 431 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: You've got to do away with the men's and women's 432 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: sports then, and every single part has been in every 433 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: single sport everywhere in America has to go on a 434 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: case by case basis. Is that what you're asking for 435 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: that's idiotic. And it's like saying, all right, so there's 436 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: an adult who is very weak, they're asthmatic. They you know, 437 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 3: they had the illness as a child that so they 438 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: ought to be able to compete in youth sports. Therefore, 439 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: we can't ban adults from competing in under twelve soccer 440 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: because there exists one or two or a handful of 441 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: special cases. 442 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: Right, you can't bring adiotic Jenny, can't breathe as you're 443 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: as you're defendant. 444 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: Well what about this blind man whose limbs don't work properly? 445 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: He wouldn't have an advantage in you twelve soccer? Are 446 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: you effing kidding me? That seriously was enunciated by a 447 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice. 448 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do so this. It seems 449 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: to me that and I didn't almost go to law 450 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: school or ever even really even consider it. So best 451 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: case scenario is the Supreme Court says, yeah, these states 452 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: can have these laws, but then your blue states are 453 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: still gonna do what they do. Right. 454 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: No, I would be shocked if that were to occur, 455 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: because it is a blatant violation of the Federal Title 456 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: nine to protect women's sports. I mean, you can't, let's say, 457 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: progressive Chusetts or Blueifornia say nof girls, we're gonna let 458 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: them beat the get the crap beaten out of them 459 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: on the field of play. 460 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm taking in a bunch of legal opinions on this, 461 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: and one thought that could this ruling could have an 462 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: effect on whether or not you need to have trans 463 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: bathrooms or all that sort of stuff. 464 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, it could, I mean, because the point I 465 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: made earlier is one worth repeating. I think to even 466 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: use the term biological male is to concede that there's 467 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: a different kind of male, which is what the radical 468 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: gender theory people are desperate for you to do. 469 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous notion. 470 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: It's like saying, again, astronomical star or you know, I 471 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: don't know, what's another good example of an architectural architecture. 472 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: That's the only kind there is. It's an entirely biological 473 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: question male vi female. How you present or how you 474 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: act or dress or whatever is entirely up to you. 475 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: But that's why the activists wanted to blur the line 476 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: between the meanings of the word sex and the word gender, 477 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: And they said, genders however you want to present. And 478 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: by the way, gender is also your genitalia and everything else. 479 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Now you're talking about sex and it's an entirely biological question. 480 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: Man, if they get into the full on, as some 481 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: legal minds seem to think, is gender fluid can you 482 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: at one point, you know, decide, you know, I think 483 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm a woman now or going back to me, man, 484 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: is that a thing or not? And the Supreme Court 485 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: rules on it. I mean, I know that won't convince 486 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: some people, but will that'll be a big moment. 487 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, a lot of this radical theory stuff, 488 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: the neo Marxist stuff that we're always talking about, the 489 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: critical theory crowd. What they do is they question every 490 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: premise you've ever had, and they say, and if you 491 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: don't agree with us, you are a hater and a 492 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: bad person and a racist and a bigot, and you 493 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: should probably lose your job in your career. And people 494 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: are so confused by their arguments and terrified by their 495 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: tactics that they just shut up. But when you bring 496 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: this thing out into the light and actually ask people 497 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: who are no longer terrified in the wake oft George Floyd, hey, 498 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: do you think boys ought to be able to play 499 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: in girls youth sports? 500 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: Lakes? Enormous majorities of people say no, absolutely not. It 501 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be like this, But I think it's probably true. 502 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court had a kind of tepid ruling 503 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: around the trans stuff in twenty twenty when it was 504 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: super super too hot to touch as a topic. And 505 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: it ain't like that now, No, And I think that 506 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: makes a difference in their willingness to take these on 507 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: and and speak truth to common sense. I don't know 508 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: what the right term would be. 509 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: For the record, I have not changed my point of view, 510 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: or my attitude or my arguments one iota since those days. 511 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: But you see a human with a dangling member TwixT 512 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: their legs, you call that a man. Do you produce sperm? 513 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: You're a male. 514 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: Do you produce an egg? You are a female? Nothing 515 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: else is significant biologically speaking. But I'm wearing mass skara 516 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: and I took hormones to give me breasts. 517 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. So the whole elon Groc deep fake 518 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: porn thing has exploded in the last couple of days. 519 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: I thought that would come and go, honestly, but people 520 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: are unhappy. Yeah, well it's good. It's gonna be here forever. 521 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: There's there's nothing you can do about it. Speaking of Groc, 522 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: just briefly, before we take a thought, this was kind 523 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: of interesting. So I who did I ask? Was it 524 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: Croc or Claude? Okay, Claude made the mistake. So as 525 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: the movie One Battle after Another, I was gonna do 526 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: my little thing about Heacock's and I was trying to 527 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: make sure I had Sean Penn's character name right. I thought, 528 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: it's Lockjaw, I think, which is a pretty funny name, uh, 529 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: for a guy that plays the role he plays. But 530 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: so I asked Claude, what's Sean Penn's character name in 531 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: the movie One Battle after Another? And Claude said to me, 532 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: bring it back up here. Claude said to me, I 533 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: don't recognize a film called One Battle after Another with 534 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Sean Penn? Could you provide a little more context? Are 535 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you thinking of Thin Red Line or We're No Angels 536 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: or some other movie? And I thought, what, it's the 537 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: most talked about movie of the last seventy two hours. 538 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: How is that possible? Then when I asked Grok, they 539 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: immediately went to Shawn'spen's character in the twenty twenty five movie, 540 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: which recently won the Golden Globe for it's Look, how 541 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: does stuff like that happened with AI? That's the big 542 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: mystery and why it's so troubling. If you're, you know, 543 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: trying to build a legal case and you ask for 544 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: some obvious information and it says that doesn't exist. I'll 545 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: just a worse yet that does, Yeah, and then make 546 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: something up. Isn't that weird? And nobody knows why that is? 547 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's another example of like your tattoo from 548 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: last week, where you could a child could google that 549 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: anywhere and come up with that information. 550 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: How did you not come up with that, Claude, Well, yeah, 551 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: I get that because the image thing is different than 552 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: the words thing. But why haven't you fixed it? And 553 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 3: I mean it's like Claude had been on vacation for 554 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: like three or four weeks. It was on a cruise 555 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: with its sweetheart and hadn't been reading about the new 556 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Seawan Penn movie or something. 557 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's inexplicable. It's weird. Anyway, if you're a female, 558 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: there will be nudes of you floating around somewhere, guaranteed. 559 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: It's just a thing. I guess in the modern world. 560 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Am all of the things to talk about? Stay here? 561 00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 7: Ashley Saint Clair is sounding the alaw after Elon Musk's 562 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 7: Ai chatbock Grock generated and published sexualized deep fake images 563 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 7: without her permission and shared them on x. 564 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: How does it make. 565 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 8: You feel when you see your likeness being manipulated like that. 566 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: The worst for me was seeing myself undressed, bent over, 567 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: and then my toddler's backpack. 568 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this whole thing. So there's a number 569 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: of things going on here. First of all, the vocal 570 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: fry of the person on CBS News talking to Ashley 571 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Saint Clair. Actually Saint Clair, if you don't know who 572 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: she is, is one of the baby mamas of Elon Musk. 573 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Here's what's going to happen. If you're really, really rich 574 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: and you have like a dozen women you paid to 575 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: have kids with you by odds and percentages, some of 576 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: them are going to be crazy or annoying. Yes, And 577 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: this particular one, she and Elon are in a battle 578 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: over their one year old. Elon says she's trying to 579 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: transition the kid. So now she is a one year 580 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: old year old. 581 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: Oh lord, and she's an activist lefty I guess, yeah, assuming. 582 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: And now she's firing back at Elon with this to 583 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: me stupid story of people out there created deep fakes 584 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: of me naked. Yeah, you can do that with any 585 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: woman on earth. So the fact that it's you bent 586 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: over or whatever position it's in whatever, and so she's 587 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: contacted these various countries. Some countries have banned GROC because 588 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: of deep fake sexual stuff. So she's fighting back against 589 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Elon on this front because he's trying to get full 590 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: custody to their kid over the whole trans thing. That's 591 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: what's going on here. This is like a you know, 592 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: ugly divorced situation, is what it is. That's ridiculous. Okay, 593 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: while the issue still is interesting and important, I just 594 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything you can do about it that AI. 595 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: There's there's gonna be AI out there somewhere. Even if 596 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: you make this one or that one doesn't do it, 597 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: there are plenty others that will that are gonna be 598 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: able to turn any woman's picture into her naked or 599 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: having sex or whatever you want it to be, and 600 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: that that sucks. But I don't know. I don't I'm 601 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: not a woman, so I don't know how I would react. 602 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: But that's not me, that's my head on something else. 603 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know Katie's thoughts. 604 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 9: I think before this whole AI thing became such a 605 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 9: huge obvious situation, like a nude popping up would be 606 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 9: like oh my god. But now that it's I mean, 607 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 9: it's so blatantly obvious at this point. 608 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some of these where it is incredibly 609 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: blatant obvious. I mean, the head's not the right size 610 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: for the body, or facing the wrong direction or whatever. 611 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: And how damn it are you by that? 612 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: I think you've been right all along, Especially for girls 613 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: in school or whatever. People are giggling about it, making 614 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: jokes about it. That would be horrible, terrifying, of course 615 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: it would be, but especially among adults. Look, this sort 616 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: of thing is going to be over the present, has 617 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: nothing to do with you. It's jackasses doing you know 618 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: what jackasses do. Move on with your life. There's it 619 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: doesn't affect you if you don't let it affect you. 620 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: Well, and the CBS to sit down with her and 621 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: take her complaints seriously and pretend they don't know that 622 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: they're in a battle over their child for custody. Come on, 623 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: that's yeah, what are you doing here? Another angle? Well, 624 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: here's Elon defending GROC over this. 625 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 8: First of all, Elon Musk defiantly defending his AI chap 626 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 8: about Groc's ability to digitally undress images of real people 627 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 8: as countries around the World take action against the AI tool. 628 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 8: After Groc's X account was flooded with request to create 629 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 8: deep fake, non consensual, nearly nude images of adults and 630 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 8: in some cases children, EXA said it is taking action 631 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 8: against those who prompted GROC to create sexually exploitative images 632 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 8: of children and has since restricted image generation request on 633 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 8: Groc's X account to paid subscribers. Those users can still 634 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 8: digitally undress images by chatting with GROC directly. 635 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: So you have to be a paid subscriber, which I'm 636 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: not to Grok to do that. I'm not doing that, 637 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: but and and so you can ban it, but it 638 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: sounds like you can get around it by having a 639 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: conversation for a while with GROC. I just I understand 640 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: why people are outraged. 641 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: But I mean if I was like a really really 642 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: gifted artist and I could draw brilliantly, I could draw 643 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: a picture of Hillary Clinton naked, yeah, for instance, my 644 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 3: longtime dream. Uh you know? And then where are we? 645 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: Is that illegal now too? I don't, You've been right 646 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: all along. Just got to get used to this because 647 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 3: there's no stopping it. Here's euros are completely unrealistic. They 648 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: are Here's one more clip from that story. 649 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 8: Elon must repeatedly attacked UK Prime Minister Cure Starmer on 650 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 8: X and reposted AI generated images of him in a bikini. 651 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 1: Well that's out of bounds. I don't know what his point. Well, 652 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Elon just likes trolling people, yes, but he might have 653 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: been here. 654 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: Starmer's a putts and screws with the Internet too much. 655 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: But he might. Oh yeah, and they got a list 656 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: of how many people they've put in jail over tweets 657 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They out stretch any country in 658 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: the world by far. On that in Great Britain. But 659 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: Elon's point might have been here, you are in a bikini, 660 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: how much damage was done? Everybody knows that's not you, 661 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: right On, I mean, what's the what are you angry about? 662 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: That'd be a good point. 663 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 3: Hey, I got a quick Supreme Court update, singing very 664 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: quickly to clarify on the transgender athlete thing. Remember, the 665 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: Supreme Court doesn't decide cases. It answers questions. It settles questions, 666 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: and they intentionally took a case as to whether states 667 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: may ban transgender athletes based on the equal Protection clause 668 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: of the Constitution. They did not take a case on 669 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: whether states must ban trans athletes based on Title nine. 670 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 3: So my dream of them saying please, that's why title 671 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: line exists. 672 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: Forget it, and that's why I think that will die. 673 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: Blue states will just keep doing what they were doing 674 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: right until it different sort of case comes along. And 675 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: then what about heacocks up in Idaho? Its you gotta 676 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: change your name if you're gonna get involved in this. 677 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: You should kill any should change your name. If you 678 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: miss the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 679 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: demand Armstrong and Getty