WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Deborah Sampson

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<v Speaker 1>Happy. Saturday. May twenty third is Deborah Samson Day in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>so since it's May twenty third, we've chosen our episode

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<v Speaker 1>on her as Today's Saturday Classic. Deborah Samson served in

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<v Speaker 1>the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War under the name

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Shirtliff. This originally came out on July fourth, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Frye. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out on July fourth, which is Independence Day

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<v Speaker 1>in the US. So since we have an episode coming

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<v Speaker 1>out on the day itself, which hasn't happened in a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time, I thought we'd do something that's both

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<v Speaker 1>thematically related and also a listener request. That is Deborah Samson,

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<v Speaker 1>who known by her married name of Deborah Samson Gennett

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Just as a note upfront, we recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>gender is broader and more nuanced than this, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is not a new idea. Deborah Samson was descended from

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<v Speaker 1>multiple people who arrived in North America aboard the Mayflower

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen twenty, at which point, there were indigenous nations

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<v Speaker 1>all over the continent that recognized and continue to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>more than two genders. We've also talked about people like

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<v Speaker 1>the Public Universal Friend, who we covered on the show

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, and the Friend lived at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time as Deborah Samson did. They described themselves as genderless,

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<v Speaker 1>but the communities that Deborah Samson was part of saw

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<v Speaker 1>things as very, very very binary. That applies to everything

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<v Speaker 1>from people's descriptions of her to how children were educated,

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<v Speaker 1>to laws about dress, and it is central to what

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<v Speaker 1>made her famous, which is serving in the Continental Army

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<v Speaker 1>as Robert Shirtliffe during the Revolutionary War. Deborah Samson was

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<v Speaker 1>born on December seventeenth, seventeen sixty in Plimpton, Massachusetts, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just inland from Plymouth. Her family spelled their last

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<v Speaker 1>name Samsom. The spelling with the pa in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>shows up in her life later on. Deborah's parents were

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Samson Junior and Deborah Bradford Samson, and as Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>just said, they were both descended from people who had

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to North America aboard the Mayflower. The Elder Deborah

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<v Speaker 1>Samson was the great granddaughter of Plymouth Colony governor William Bradford.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan's ancestors included Miles Standish and John and Priscilla mullens Alden,

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<v Speaker 1>who today are probably best known as characters from the

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<v Speaker 1>Courtship of Miles Standish by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. Deborah was

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<v Speaker 1>one of seven children and the family was poor. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>was a farm laborer and claimed that he had been

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<v Speaker 1>cheated out of his inheritance from his late father and

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<v Speaker 1>that his being cheated out of that money was the

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<v Speaker 1>root of the family's poverty. But there are probate records

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<v Speaker 1>showing that Jonathan Samson's senior's estate looks like it was

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<v Speaker 1>divided up pretty fairly, and then there are also records

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<v Speaker 1>showing that Jonathan sold his property to his brother in

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<v Speaker 1>law shortly after his father's death. Family drama. Jonathan Samson

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<v Speaker 1>eventually went to sea, and when the young Deborah was

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<v Speaker 1>about five, he didn't come back from a voyage. The

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<v Speaker 1>family was informed that he had died in a shipwreck,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's possible that Deborah believed this was what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him, but in reality, he had moved to what

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<v Speaker 1>is now Maine, where he and a woman named Martha

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<v Speaker 1>lived as a married couple, and he had two more

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<v Speaker 1>children with her. Deborah's mother could not afford to raise

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<v Speaker 1>seven children on her own, so Deborah and at least

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<v Speaker 1>some of her siblings were sent to live with various

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<v Speaker 1>friends and relatives. Than When Deborah was ten, she was

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<v Speaker 1>indentured to the Thomas family. Some sources say that she

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<v Speaker 1>was indentured to Benjamin Thomas Deecon at First Church of Middleborough,

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<v Speaker 1>and others say it was to Jeremiah and Susan Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many Thomas's living in this area that

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<v Speaker 1>it was nicknamed Thomastown, and Susan was Benjamin's daughter, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's understandable that there is some confusion about exactly who

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<v Speaker 1>she was indentured to. This was a large family, with

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<v Speaker 1>more boys than girls, and although Deborah wasn't provided with

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<v Speaker 1>an education the way that the family's children were, she

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<v Speaker 1>did use their books and school materials to teach herself

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<v Speaker 1>to read and write. Most of the documentation we have

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<v Speaker 1>of Deborah's young life comes from a biography by Herman

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<v Speaker 1>Mann that was published for the first time in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven. Parts of that biography were definitely fabricated, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will be talking about that more and a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>But it does seem like she learned to do various

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<v Speaker 1>types of work around the home and the farm during

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<v Speaker 1>her indenture, and this included tasks that were more often

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<v Speaker 1>done by men and boys, like plowing and whittling. Samson's

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<v Speaker 1>indenture ended when she was eighteen. For the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, she worked as a teacher. During the summers,

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<v Speaker 1>in the window between when crops were planted and when

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<v Speaker 1>they were harvested, in the colder months, she worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a spinner and a weaver. She also joined First Baptist

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Middleborough on November twelfth, seventeen eighty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>shortly before she turned twenty. Although there was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big Baptist community in Middleborough, they had at least three

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist churches, most people in the area were Congregationalists, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the people who had the most wealth and power and influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Baptists were really seen as outsiders. This was all happening

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<v Speaker 1>during the Revolutionary War, and we don't know much about

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<v Speaker 1>how the war's earlier years affected Deborah Sampson. That's seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven biography. He does give a lengthy recounting of

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<v Speaker 1>a vivid and violent dream she reportedly had just before

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<v Speaker 1>the Battle of Lexington in seventeen seventy five. Though it's

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<v Speaker 1>not totally clear whether this is a dream she actually

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<v Speaker 1>had or whether it's a dramatic embellishment, but if it

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<v Speaker 1>really happened, it may have reflected her fear and anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>about what was going on. Although thousands of men joined

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<v Speaker 1>the military at the start of the war, by the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventeen seventies the Continental Army was really struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>find recruits. Recruitment happened at the state level, and the

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<v Speaker 1>state started drafting people and offering incentives to entice people

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<v Speaker 1>to join. This included offering bounties for people who volunteered

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<v Speaker 1>to serve in the place of men who had been

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<v Speaker 1>drafted but didn't want to go. Although this did motivate

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<v Speaker 1>some people to join, it also caused some issues. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts set quotas for how many recruits each town should provide,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was up to the town to decide how

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<v Speaker 1>much money they would offer as a bounty. This led

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<v Speaker 1>some people to basically shop around for the biggest bounty

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<v Speaker 1>they could find. Men were expected to enlist for three

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<v Speaker 1>years or until the end of the war, whichever came first.

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<v Speaker 1>But some just disappeared as soon as they claimed their bounty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this caused various issues. In addition to the disappearance of

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<v Speaker 1>people who had claimed a bounty and then just vanished,

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<v Speaker 1>they were disproportionately enlisting people who were desperate for money

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe not people who were who would do well

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<v Speaker 1>as soldiers. There was a whole many layers going on

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Samson's first attempt to join the army might

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<v Speaker 1>have been in pursuit of a bounty. This is documented

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<v Speaker 1>in a diary entry by Abner Weston dated January twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty two. This diary was found in New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen and then bought by the Museum of

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<v Speaker 1>the Amya Revolution in Philadelphia in twenty nineteen. Somehow it

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<v Speaker 1>did not cross my radar for any of the unearthed

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<v Speaker 1>episodes that happened during that time. Weston wrote, quote, there

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<v Speaker 1>happened an uncommon affair at this time for Deborah Samson

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<v Speaker 1>of this town dressed herself in men's clothes and hired

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<v Speaker 1>herself to Israel Wood to go into the Three years service,

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<v Speaker 1>but being found out, returned the hire and paid the damages.

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<v Speaker 1>Other second and third hand accounts add some other details

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<v Speaker 1>to this, including that Samson was living in the home

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<v Speaker 1>of Captain Benjamin Leonard, who employed her as a weaver,

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<v Speaker 1>and that a woman named Jenny helped her steal some

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<v Speaker 1>of Leonard's son's clothes. Jenny is described as the daughter

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<v Speaker 1>of an enslaved woman and as Samson's roommate at the

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard house, where Jenny was probably working as a servant.

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<v Speaker 1>After giving her name as Timothy Thayer and receiving her bounty,

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<v Speaker 1>Samson went to a tavern and drank, then came home intoxicated,

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<v Speaker 1>got into bed with Jenny, and got up and went

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<v Speaker 1>about her business. The next morning, when Timothy Thayer didn't

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<v Speaker 1>report to be mustered in, a woman who had been

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<v Speaker 1>in the room when he enlisted said she noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>he held a pen, just like Deborah Samson. Apparently, Samson's

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<v Speaker 1>way of holding a pen was distinctive because of an

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<v Speaker 1>injury to one of her fingers, and after being questioned,

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<v Speaker 1>Samson reportedly confessed and returned the bounty money. This was

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<v Speaker 1>really a scandal, and although herman Mann's biography gave some

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<v Speaker 1>other reasons. Samson may have enlisted for the second time

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get away from it. We will get

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<v Speaker 1>to that after a quick sponsor break. On May twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty two, Robert Shirtliff accepted an enlistment bounty from

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<v Speaker 1>the town of Uxbridge, Massachusetts. He was tall, taller than

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<v Speaker 1>the average soldier, but apparently too young to grow facial hair.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no physical exams required to enlist at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody had to provide any kind of documentation of their

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<v Speaker 1>name or their age. About a year and a half

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<v Speaker 1>would pass before anybody realized that Robert Shirtliffe, whose name

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<v Speaker 1>is spelled a lot of different ways in different various

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<v Speaker 1>records for anybody, realized that he had previously been known

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody before this point as Deborah Sampson. Shirtliffe was

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<v Speaker 1>mustered into the fourth Massachusetts Regiment at Worcestern, Massachusetts. Three

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<v Speaker 1>days later, he marched with the regiment to West Point,

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<v Speaker 1>where he was assigned to Captain George Webb's company of

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<v Speaker 1>light Infantry. The light Infantry was seen as an elite

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<v Speaker 1>group made up of young agile men who could move quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>do reconnaissance and engage in skirmishes with the enemy. Webb's

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<v Speaker 1>company spent most of their time in the Hudson River Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>The Battle of Yorktown had ended the previous fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is seen as the last major battle of the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War and as a decisive victory for the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but the war did not actually end for almost two

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<v Speaker 1>more years after that. Much of the Hudson River Valley

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<v Speaker 1>was neutral ground between US territory and New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>which was still being held by the British, but there

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<v Speaker 1>were lots of troops from both sides in this area.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also French troops who were allied with the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, as well as indigenous peoples. Some were on

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<v Speaker 1>the sides of the British and some of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>In this particular area, they were more likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>allied with or otherwise support the British. Although this area

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see any major battles in seventeen eighty two or

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty three, there were lots of smaller skirmishes. Later on,

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<v Speaker 1>Herman Mann's biography of Deborah Sampson would recount a dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>tale of her being seriously wounded with a head injury

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<v Speaker 1>and two musket balls lodged in her thigh. She was

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<v Speaker 1>so afraid that her sex would be discovered that she

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<v Speaker 1>thought about taking her own life with a pistol. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she made her way to a French encampment, where she

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<v Speaker 1>allowed a French doctor to treat and dress her head

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<v Speaker 1>wound before sneaking away with some wine, a penknife, and

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<v Speaker 1>a needle to extract the musket balls herself. She was

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<v Speaker 1>able to remove one of them and treat and dress

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<v Speaker 1>the wound, but the other remained in her body for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of her life. It is extremely likely that

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<v Speaker 1>during her time as Robert Shirtliff, Deborah Sampson really was

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<v Speaker 1>wounded in action and really was disabled afterward. She had

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<v Speaker 1>to document all that to receive pensions for her service,

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<v Speaker 1>which she did. We'll talk about that more later. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this part of Samson's biography is uncannily similar to another work,

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<v Speaker 1>which was titled The Female Soldier, that describes the experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of Hannah Snell, who joined the British Army as James

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<v Speaker 1>Gray in seventeen forty five and fought against the Jacobites.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in Middleborough, Massachusetts, First Baptist Church was deciding what

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<v Speaker 1>to do about Deborah Sampson's earlier enlistment as Timothy Thayer

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<v Speaker 1>the Church Minutes from September third, seventeen eighty two read quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The Church considered the case of Deborah Sampson, who, last

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<v Speaker 1>spring was accused of dressing in men's clothes and enlisting

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<v Speaker 1>in the army, And although she was not convicted yet,

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<v Speaker 1>was strongly suspected of being guilty, and for some time

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<v Speaker 1>before behaved very loose and unchristian like, and at last

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<v Speaker 1>left our parts in a sudden manner. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>not known among us where she is gone. And after

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<v Speaker 1>considerable discourse, it appeared that as several brethren had labored

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<v Speaker 1>with her before she went away without obtaining satisfaction, concluded

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<v Speaker 1>that it is the church's duty to withdraw fellowship until

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<v Speaker 1>she returns and makes Christian satisfaction. Okay, that means they

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<v Speaker 1>basically kicked her out, and still she apologized and was

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<v Speaker 1>absolved for having done wrong. A couple of other notes

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Today, the word loose has sexual connotations when

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<v Speaker 1>it's used in this kind of a contact, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the time it was more of a general description of

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<v Speaker 1>bad behavior, and in terms of a conviction. Cross dressing

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<v Speaker 1>had been outlawed in Massachusetts since the sixteen nineties. The

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition on cross dressing also traced back to a verse

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<v Speaker 1>in the Biblical Book of Deuteronomy, which described men dressing

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<v Speaker 1>in women's clothes and vice versa as an abomination. To

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<v Speaker 1>return to Samson's time as Robert Shirtliff, that injury made

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<v Speaker 1>it impossible to keep up with the light infantry, so

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<v Speaker 1>Shirtlift seems to have convinced someone to assign him to

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<v Speaker 1>the task of caring for a wounded soldier who could

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<v Speaker 1>not be moved. After that, Shirtlift was given another assignment

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<v Speaker 1>in seventeen eighty three, this time working as a waiter

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<v Speaker 1>for General John Patterson. This wasn't a food service position,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more like a personal servant. Shirtliff accompanied Patterson

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<v Speaker 1>in his unit to Philadelphia, which at the time was

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<v Speaker 1>the US capital. An armistice went into effect on April nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty three, and as the US started demobilizing its forces,

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<v Speaker 1>it furloughed troops without fully paying people for their services,

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<v Speaker 1>also without a clear plan for funding pensions for anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Demands for pay and for better conditions were part of

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<v Speaker 1>a mutiny along the Pennsylvania line in seventeen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and Patterson's troops were sent to Philadelphia to try to

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<v Speaker 1>put that mutiny down. In Philadelphia, Robert Shirtliffe became ill

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<v Speaker 1>with a fever and delirium and was hospitalized. The cause

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<v Speaker 1>isn't clear, although there were epidemics of both measles and

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<v Speaker 1>smallpox in Philadelphia at that time. Measles is the more

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<v Speaker 1>likely of the two, since the various descriptions of this

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<v Speaker 1>don't include typical smallpox symptoms, and George Washington had ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the troops to be inoculated against it. Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been something totally else, but those two diseases really

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<v Speaker 1>were rampant. While working at a hospital in Philadelphia, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>barnabas Binny discovered that one of his patients, known as

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Shirtliffe, was wearing a breastbinding, but he kept that

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<v Speaker 1>a secret. It is not totally clear how Samson's commanding

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<v Speaker 1>officers eventually learned her identity. In Man's book, Benny gave

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<v Speaker 1>her a letter that explained the whole situation and told

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<v Speaker 1>her to deliver it to General Patterson, and she did

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<v Speaker 1>that even though she was pretty sure the letter was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that she was a woman. Later, even more romanticized

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<v Speaker 1>versions of this claimed that she gave the letter not

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<v Speaker 1>to Patterson but to George Washington himself, whatever those details were,

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<v Speaker 1>general Henry Knox granted Robert Shirtliffe an honorable discharge on

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty third, seventeen eighty three. And this is not

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<v Speaker 1>at all how the Continental Army or the various militias

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<v Speaker 1>generally dealt with women who tried to enlist, or with

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<v Speaker 1>people who successfully enlisted but were later discovered to have

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<v Speaker 1>female bodies. It was way more common for people to

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<v Speaker 1>be publicly shamed, charged with crimes including fraud and cross dressing,

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<v Speaker 1>or subjected to just deeply humiliating and traumatizing physical examinations

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<v Speaker 1>which really were just sexual assaults. It's possible that there

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<v Speaker 1>are other women who managed to serve undetected in the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War, or people who might describe themselves as non

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<v Speaker 1>binary or as transgendermen today, but the honorable discharge of

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Shirtliff is really unique. After being discharged, Samson returned

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<v Speaker 1>to Massachusetts, and as far as we know, once she

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<v Speaker 1>got there, she resumed her life as Deborah Sampson. The

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<v Speaker 1>first public report of her service in the Revolutionary War

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<v Speaker 1>was published just a few months later. It named Robert Shirtliffe,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did not mention Samson's name. Quote for particular reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't say what they are, just that they're particular.

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<v Speaker 1>This was printed in the Independent Gazette or the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Journal revived on January tenth, seventeen e and it

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<v Speaker 1>was picked up by other newspapers later on. It began quote,

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary instance of virtue in a female soldier has

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<v Speaker 1>occurred lately in the American Army in the Massachusetts Line.

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<v Speaker 1>Vis a lively, comely young nymph, nineteen years of age,

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in man's apparel, has been discovered, and what redounds

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<v Speaker 1>to her honor. She has served in the character of

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<v Speaker 1>a soldier for near three years, undiscovered, during which time

0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:33.000
<v Speaker 1>she displayed herself with activity, alertness, chastity, and valor, having

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<v Speaker 1>been in several skirmishes with the enemy, and received two wounds,

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<v Speaker 1>a small shot remaining in her to this day. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a remarkable vigilant soldier on her post, and always

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<v Speaker 1>gained the admiration and applause of her officers. Was never

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<v Speaker 1>found in liquor, and always kept company with the most

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<v Speaker 1>upright and temperate soldiers. This report describes her illness and

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<v Speaker 1>the discovery of her sex, and her honorable discharge, before

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<v Speaker 1>offering an ex explanation for why she did all of

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<v Speaker 1>this quote. The cause of her personating a man, it

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<v Speaker 1>is said, proceeded from the rigor of her parents, who

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<v Speaker 1>exerted their prerogative to induce her to marriage with a

0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:16.920
<v Speaker 1>young man she had conceived a great antipathy for, together

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<v Speaker 1>with her being a remarkable heroine and warmly attached to

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<v Speaker 1>the cause of her country, in the service of which

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<v Speaker 1>it must be acknowledged, she gained reputation, and no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>will be noticed by the compilers of the history of

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<v Speaker 1>our Grand Revolution. I have so many feelings about that

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<v Speaker 1>right up. A couple of factual notes on this. Samson

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<v Speaker 1>was about twenty one when she enlisted, rather than nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and although recruits were expected to serve for three years,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Shirtliff's time in the army is documented it closer

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<v Speaker 1>to eighteen months. Samson's parents also weren't really involved in

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<v Speaker 1>her life at all, so this story about fleeing an

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<v Speaker 1>unwonted marriage reads more like a literary trope and a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make readers or sympathetic to her, Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>any real explanation of her reasoning. We'll talk about Samson's

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<v Speaker 1>post Revolutionary war life after another quick sponsor break. Deborah

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<v Speaker 1>Sampson married Benjamin Gannette of Sharon, Massachusetts, on April seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty five. There is a gown in the collections

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<v Speaker 1>of Historic New England that may have been her wedding dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Was originally made as an open gown to be worn

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<v Speaker 1>with a petticoat around seventeen seventy, and then it was

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<v Speaker 1>remade as a full dress without that open front about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years later. Then it was altered again in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighties, presumably so Deborah could get married in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the dress from there was passed down within the family.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of her descendants even wore it for things like

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<v Speaker 1>historical reenactments and other events. Deborah and Benjamin had three children, Earl,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and Patience, and they adopted Susannah Shepherd after her

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<v Speaker 1>mother died. As had been the case in Deborah's own childhood,

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the family struggled financially, which is one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>she worked so hard to get the benefits that she

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<v Speaker 1>was entitled to as a veteran. This started with petitioning

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for backpay in seventeen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 1>She was awarded thirty four pounds. Over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety seven and seventeen ninety eight, Gannett applied for

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<v Speaker 1>a pension under the Invalid Pension Act of seventeen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not clear why four years passed between when the

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<v Speaker 1>law was passed and when she submitted an application, But

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<v Speaker 1>this process could be really onerous, so we said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of stuff that you had to document.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that documentation was really hard to track down or

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<v Speaker 1>didn't exist. It's possible she had trouble finding a lawyer

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>who was willing to help her with it. Herman Mann's

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 1>biography of her was almost certainly written to support this

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 1>pension application, As we said earlier, It was published in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ninety seven, and its full title was The Female Review,

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<v Speaker 1>or Memoirs of an American Young Lady whose life and

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>character are peculiarly distinguished. Being a Continental soldier for nearly

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<v Speaker 1>three years in the Late American War, during which time

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>she performed the duties of every department into which she

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<v Speaker 1>was called with punctual exactness, fidelity, and honor, and preserved

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<v Speaker 1>her chastity inviolate by the most artful concealment of her sex,

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<v Speaker 1>with an appendix containing characteristic traits by different hands, her

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<v Speaker 1>taste for economy, principles of domestic education, etc. I do

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<v Speaker 1>love the long title. I do too. They're so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>This book is so romanticized, and it has so much

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<v Speaker 1>in common with other books in print at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just the one we mentioned earlier, there were multiple others.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some critics today that have described it not

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<v Speaker 1>as a biography or a memoir, but as a novel.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like Man himself might have even thought of it

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<v Speaker 1>this way too, and he later talked about it having

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<v Speaker 1>just been rushed into print without enough time to do

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<v Speaker 1>a good job with it. Some parts of it are

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<v Speaker 1>questionable but not totally impossible, like the vivid dream that

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned and the sneaking a way to remove a

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<v Speaker 1>musket ball also in that category, or things like a

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>romantic interlude involving a young woman from Baltimore who falls

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<v Speaker 1>in love with this patient known as Robert Shirtliff at

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<v Speaker 1>a military hospital in Philadelphia, who she, of course believes

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<v Speaker 1>to be a man. There's so many dramatic and thrilling tales. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of them, and several people have

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<v Speaker 1>traced and this also save dramatic tale is in this

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<v Speaker 1>other book that was in circulation at the time. There

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<v Speaker 1>are parts of this writing that are flatly untrue. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Man claims Deborah Samson Gennett was at the Battle of Yorktown,

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<v Speaker 1>which was over long before she enlisted. There's also an

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<v Speaker 1>account of rescuing a white woman who was held captive

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>by indigenous people and marrying her, but putting off consummating

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage until it could be properly solemnized in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>In the words of Man's book quote, on their return

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<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia, they purchased her a suit of clothes, but she,

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<v Speaker 1>unable to express her gratitude, received them on her knees

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<v Speaker 1>and was doubtless glad to relinquish her sham marriage and

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<v Speaker 1>to be sent to her uncle, who she said lived

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<v Speaker 1>in James City. This is almost certainly just completely fabricated.

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<v Speaker 1>Man commissioned a portrait of Gannett by folk artist Joseph Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>which became the basis for the engraving for the book's frontispiece.

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<v Speaker 1>This portrait still exists in the collection of the Rhode

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<v Speaker 1>Island Historical Society today. It shows her in a feminine

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<v Speaker 1>white dress with long brown hair that curls softly around

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<v Speaker 1>her cheeks and her shoulders, blue eyes, fair skin with

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<v Speaker 1>rosy cheeks, and a pretty prominent jaw. It's framed with

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<v Speaker 1>some patriotic and elishments, like an eagle bearing a shield

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that's decorated with stars and stripes. Mann was not the

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>only writer trying to support Deborah Sampson Gannett's pension efforts.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Shortly after she filed her paperwork, poet Philip Freneau published

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<v Speaker 1>A Soldier Should be Made of Sterner Stuff on Deborah Gannette,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was published in a publication called The time Piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Gannette pursued this pension she was entitled to for months,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>her petition for it wound up stalled in Congress. She

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>tried applying again a few years later, and in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh two she went on a speaking tour to raise

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<v Speaker 1>money and to try to gather support. She went all

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<v Speaker 1>around New England and New York and was billed as

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<v Speaker 1>the American Heroine. She worked with herman Mann again on

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<v Speaker 1>the text of the address that she would give on

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this tour. Some historians have concluded that this was not

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<v Speaker 1>a collaboration between the two of them, but he just

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it for her. She would speak while wearing a dress,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she would go off stage and change into

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<v Speaker 1>her soldier's uniform and then come back and do military

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>drills like presenting her arms. We don't really know how

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<v Speaker 1>much Genet stuck to the prepared remarks that man worked on,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do have a print version of it. It

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>begins quote not unlike the example of the patriot and philanthropists,

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<v Speaker 1>though perhaps perfectly so. In effect, do I awake from

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<v Speaker 1>the tranquil slumbers of retirement to active public scenes of life,

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 1>like those which now surround me. That genius, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the prompter of curiosity, and that spirit, which is the

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>support of enterprise, early drove, or rather allured me from

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<v Speaker 1>the corner of humble obscurity. Their cheering aspect has again

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<v Speaker 1>prevented a torpid rest. If you found that to be

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of words that essentially said nothing, I

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<v Speaker 1>was very stilted. I have bad news for you. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is like this, and It's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>about patriotic ideals than about any real specifics from her

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<v Speaker 1>life for her time in the army, which makes for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe bad copy, but probably worked really well to drum

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>up crowds to support her. Gannett kept a journal during

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>her tour, and this journal reveals that it was really

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a difficult time. She was traveling alone, and

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>she was sick a lot. There are lots of descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of toothaches and a pain in her face and at

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>one point what she described as dysentery, and she also

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<v Speaker 1>just really missed her children. Deborah Samson Connette was finally

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<v Speaker 1>awarded a pension as a disabled veteran on March eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen oh five, after some prominent people spoke up

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>on her behalf, one of them being Paul Revere. Her

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<v Speaker 1>pension started at four dollars a month, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>applied for and was granted increases in that amount in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixteen and eighteen nineteen. Sometimes she's described as the

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<v Speaker 1>first woman in American history to receive a military pension

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<v Speaker 1>or the first woman to be wounded while fighting for

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the United States, but neither of these is true. One

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>earlier example is Margaret Cochrane Corbin, who became a camp

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>follower after her husband John joined the Pennsylvania military. Margaret

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was helping her husband load his cannon at the Battle

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of Fort Washington on November sixteenth, seventeen seventy six, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he was killed, she took his place. She was

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>then seriously wounded as well, and she became a prisoner

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of war after the battle. The Continental Congress awarded her

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime pension on July sixth, seventeen seventy nine, although

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>at half the amount that men received. In her later years,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Deborah Samson Ginnett seems to have wanted her family to

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<v Speaker 1>know about and to remember her time as a soldier,

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>but she really stepped away from the public spotlight. While

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>her military service was described as exemplary, the idea of

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>cross dressing was still really scandalous, and any association with

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the military could be seen as very suspicious for women.

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<v Speaker 1>There were thousands of women in camp followers during the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though a lot of them were doing absolutely

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>necessary work like cooking and mending and caring for the sick,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>they were viewed with a lot of derision and suspicion,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and this all fed into a lot of really salacious

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>rumors that she seems to have found genuinely upsetting. Dembra Samson.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Gannett died on April twenty ninth, eighteen twenty seven, at

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the age of sixty six. At the time, Herman Mann

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>was working on a revised version of her memoir, one

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that was written in first person, in which she had

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>given him permission to print only after her death. Mann

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>got almost two hundred subscribers to fund this revised work,

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but he also died before getting it published. His son

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>took up the project and made all kinds of revisions,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>but then he died as well. Overall, these revisions made

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the book more sensationalized and definitely not more accurate. Benjamin

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Gennett petitioned the government for a survivor's pension, one that

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>typically would have been paid to a widow after the

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>death of her veteran husband. Congress authorized this on July seventh,

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty eight, with a committee noting that the Revolution

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>had quote furnished no other similar example of female heroism, fidelity,

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and courage. Benjamin Ginnett actually died about eighteen months before

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Congress finalized this payment, so in the end, it went

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to his attorney and his heirs. John A. Venon printed

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<v Speaker 1>a new version of Herman Mann's biography of Deborah Samson

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Ganet in eighteen sixty six. It included lots of annotations

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and corrections, as well as new information. There were also

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.479
<v Speaker 1>lots of dime novels and other stories about her printed

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century. During World War II, a liberty

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>ship was named the SS Deborah Gannett. In nineteen eighty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Michael Dukakis signed legislation naming Deborah Sampson the official

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>heroine of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, with May twenty third

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>being designated as Deborah Sampson Day. A life sized statue

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of her was unveiled at the Sharon, Massachusetts Public Library

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>on Veterans Day nineteen eighty nine. In the late twenty teens,

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<v Speaker 1>legislation known as the Deborah Sampson Act was introduced to

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<v Speaker 1>in Congress a number of times, at one point passing

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the House but getting stalled in the Senate. This legislation

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was meant to improve women's access to care and benefits

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>through the Department of Veterans Affairs, and to improve the

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>quality of that care. The Bill's content was eventually folded

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>into the Johnny Isaacson and David P. Row MD Veterans

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Healthcare and Benefits Improvement Act of twenty twenty which was

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>signed into law on January fifth, twenty twenty one. In

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>this Act, title five, Deborah Sampson is subtitled Improving Access

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for Women Veterans to the Department of Veterans Affairs. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to listener mail, something came up during research

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on this that would normally probably go into the Friday

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes, but it seems like enough listeners might

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have heard it and be wondering that I wanted to

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and talk about it now. When I'm pulling

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>together resources for episodes, one of the places I look

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>is Gail databases that I have access to through the

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>public library. Gail's first book result when I searched for

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Deborah Samson is from the nineteen ninety two book Notable

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Black American Women. I was immediately confused, since none of

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the material that I had gathered before that point suggested

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that Deborah Gannette was black, and the many references that

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I had seen to were ancestors being aboard the Mayflower

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>without mentioning any other ancestors kind of implied that she

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>was not. Sources from Gannette's lifetime don't mention her race

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>at all. It wasn't typical for white writers to spell

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>out another white person's race, but noting the race of

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>black people was routine in everything from enlistment records to

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>newspaper articles to personal journals. The idea that Deborah Samson

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was black seems to trace back to William's Nell's book

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Colored Patriots of the American Revolution that was published in

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty five. This book is noteworthy on its own

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>William Coopernell was a journalist an abolitionist. This was one

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of the first books by a black person to document

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the contributions of other black people to the American Revolution.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Nell also wrote books about black soldier's service in the

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>War of eighteen twelve and on christ Path addics in

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the Boston Massacre. He is somebody who could be an

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>episode subject of the show One Day. Colored Patriots of

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the American Revolution references Lemuel Burr, who was black and indigenous.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Lemuell's grandfather, Samuel Burr, was friends with Jeremy Jonah and

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>both served in the Revolutionary War. Burr was in Gannett's regiment,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jonah was in another regiment that was also stationed

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Hudson Valley. To quote the book quote, Lemuel Burr,

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>grandson of Seymour, a resident of Boston, often speaks of

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>their reminiscences of Deborah Ganet. Nell then prints the text

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of the General Court of Massachusetts resolution awarding Debra Gannet

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty four pounds for services in the Continental Army. Multiple

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>historians have traced the idea that Deborah Samson Gannet was

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>black to this passage. People interpreted her inclusion in this

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>book as meaning that she was black as well, although

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's really not entirely clear if this was Nell's intent

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>or not. From there, it made its way into other

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>people's work. The earliest examples of this are primarily from

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>black writers and speakers who were doing the important and

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>necessary work of documenting and publicizing black people's participation in

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the Revolutionary War. For example, Lewis Hayden, who was enslaved

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>from birth but liberated himself and became a prominent part

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>of the underground railroad before the Civil War, gave an

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>address during the US Centennial in eighteen seventy six. He

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>was speaking to the Colored Ladies' Centennial Club in Boston,

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and he used Ganet as an example of black women's

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>contributions to the war. The idea that Deborah Samson Genet

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>was black became more widespread during the Civil Rights Movement,

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and it still comes up today, primarily in sources that

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>are focused specifically on black people's achievements, like lists of

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>facts for Black History Month and that nineteen ninety two

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>book that we mentioned. To be totally clear, it is

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>not impossible that Deborah Samson Gannet had African ancestry somewhere

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>in her family tree. She had one grandmother and one

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>great grandfather whose parents aren't clearly documented, and of course

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it's also possible that one of her ancestors had an

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>affair of some sort that wouldn't be reflected in things

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>like birth and marriage records. But beyond that, Deborah Samson

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Gannett's documented ancestors trace back to people who emigrated from

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Europe during the seventeenth century, nearly all of them from

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>England during the Great Puritan Migration. It would have been

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a scandal for any of them who have had a

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>child with somewhat of African descent, and there just hasn't

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>been anything found to suggest that that kind of scandal happened.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>For folks who want more on Deborah Samson Gennett, one

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of the more recent books about her is titled Masquerade,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>The Life and Times of Deborah Samson Continental Soldier. That's

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>by Alfred F. Young. There's also a recent novel titled

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary by Alex Myers. Myers is a transgender man, so

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he brings a really unique perspective to telling this story. Yeah.

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>This is the second time in recent memory that there's

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>been a novel that I started reading and did not finish.

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>In this case, it's because there is a rape in

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the first chapter and I noped hard out of it

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>at that point. I was just not up for reading

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>a book that started out with a rape over the weekend.

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>No not rest will way to spend your time now,

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>would not say those aren't important stories. Yeah, I mean

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it's been extremely well reviewed. Yeah, I just I was

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>not prepared and did not continue reading. There you go.

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