1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Serious Conversation is something that happened in the NFL, well, 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: the NFL offices, and that would be yesterday. We had 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: the incident that occurred in the building which the houses 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: of some financial buildings as well as the NFL, and 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: so I want to give you I want to be 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: specific about the updates here what we know and then 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of dive into just our thoughts about some things. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: So you had again a shooting that occurred there a 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: gunman who went in the building and he unfortunately killed 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: four people ultimately killed himself as well. We know a 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: little bit more about him as well. Now he is 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: from His name is Shane Devon Tomorrow. He is twenty seven. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: He's from He's originally from here, southern California, played high 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: school football here and then he went into this building 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately unleashed on folks and as I mentioned forward, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: dead he ultimately would kill himself. Now here's where it 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: kind of first of all thoughts, concerns, prayers for everybody involved. 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: What has come out since then in the investigation is 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: that it is believed that he was trying to get 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: into the NFL. They were on the higher floor. He 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: was trying to get up there. And then you start 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: to read about it. He had a suicide note in 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: his pocket, and in that note he said that he 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: was dealing with CTE. He went on to say that 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: he was disappointed in the NFL because they were lying, 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: they were keeping information. He had a documented mental health 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: history and this is what he said here. He said CTE, 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and it caused me to drink a gallon of Vanni freeze. 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Once he mentioned he went on to talk about his 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: own issues. And so he believes the NFL is at 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: fault for not giving all people all the information and 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: telling the truth about CTE. And so it is believed 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: that he was trying to get to that building. Obviously 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: he did not get there. So there's a lot to 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: get you here for me, and I want to start 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: with this again I'm definitely just a sad story. And 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: you hate to hear about this because a couple of 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: things for me carry one. I don't know him, didn't 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: know him, and if he may have been dealing with 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: some issues. I don't know if this to be true. 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: We know that he has a document of mental health history. 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: He says it comes from football and CTE and that 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: very well could be true. I don't know, but either way, 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: that's not how you handle things, right. Taking the lives 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: of others who had nothing to do with it is 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: not how you handle things. Killing people is absolutely not 54 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: how you handle things. But there is for me. I 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: want to switch from the incident into the conversation of 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: the NFL and CTE, and you know what, I look 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: at it as Carrie, The NFL is really like America's cigarette. 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: The NFL is like when you go bungee jumping or 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you go skydiving. They tell you everything. Hey, they tell you, look, 60 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: this can do this, this can happen. Here are the dangers. 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Use at your own, you know, discretion. And the NFL 62 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: for years was hiding things. Yes, right, the NFL wasn't 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: telling us about things. They weren't telling us about t 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: t they were trying to cover it up. But then 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: around two thousand and five information starts to come out. 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: Right around we start to hear more and more of 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: what it's doing to people. We started to hear more 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: folks stories, and we started to hear about the tragedies 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: that happened. We start to hear about the junior Seius 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: killing themselves, hard to hear about Andrea i Waters that 71 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: hurts himself and injures himself. When we start to get 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: this information about ct and it's real to the tune 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: of one of the biggest actors, biggest blockbuster actors, Will 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Smith does a movie called Concussion. That's right now, we 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: see it, and you know, we can watch a movie 76 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: about it, and we can hear the stories and see 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the truth, and yet we still tune in. Right Damar 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Hamlin died on the field, We still watch and I 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: think I'm at a place where for me, the NFL 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: has no more hiding to do. They don't have to 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: hide anymore. Tell us everything here is exactly what can happen. 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: We're not hiding, we're not sugarcoating. We're telling you everything 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: we've ever found. We're telling you every inherent danger. You 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: know why, Carrie, why we are consumed. We don't care 85 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: if you see somebody die in the field. We're gonna watch, right. 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: We don't care about ct Guess who's signing up to play, 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: still said, parents sending them in their players. 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: Now we do know younger folks. 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: The numbers have dropped a bit, but what you're seeing 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: is they're going into flag football preparing to then do 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: high school football more. But football participation is still high. 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Viewership is crazy high. Guys are still making millions of dollars. 93 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: So to me, the NFL had none else to hide 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: about CTE, about any other thing, because they're in a 95 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: position where they can say, hey, we told you all everything. 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: We've given you, all the data, we've given you, all 97 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the facts, we're giving you everything you do football is dangerous. 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: Here you go. Yeah. 99 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 4: And the only reason you they will not do that, 100 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: or they have not done what you just said, come 101 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: come completely clean, is there's still ongoing court cases and 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: things that are going against the NFL as far as 103 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: the CTE from the former players. And that's the part 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: where you cannot do it that way. Yes, and so 105 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: the shaddow that's cast by all of that is it's 106 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: still looming, and that's the part that you cannot do that. 107 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: And so I understand why that's not the case. Now 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: as far as you know, the shooting incident and the 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: shooter trying to go in and solve this problem by himself, 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: that's just not the way to do it. Absolutely, it's 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: only hurting yourself. It's hurting your family. It's hurting other 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: people's families that, like you said, had nothing to do 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: with this. Right, So that's a big no no. But 114 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: the crazy part about what you just said is people 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: are still going to consume this product. I don't think 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: there's anything that can be done that will cause that 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: to be the opposite. 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: Right. 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: I just had a call on the way over here 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: with a friend of mine asking me should I put 121 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: my ten year. 122 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: Old son in football? And you know what I said? Would? 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: I said? Let him play flag football? Again? 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 4: Like that's me. I'm somebody that actually went through the fire. 125 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: I played it, had plenty of concussions, had a concussion 126 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: in my first preseason game, knocked out cold, and because 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: I knew that I had to make the team, I 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: get back up and still play like that's my decision, 129 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: even though you're probably basing a lot of those things 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: and those decisions based off doctors and the team and 131 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: the NFL and all those things, and laying out the 132 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: stuff for you for your safety. You're also for your 133 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: livelihood to doing something that you've want to do your 134 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 4: whole life, and you know what the benefits of it 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: can be for you and your family. So there's there's 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: this thing where it's just very hard to kind of 137 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: be mad at the NFL with this and for somebody 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: to try to take some take matters into his own 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: hands and try to go course correct this thing. 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen that way. It's not again, 141 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: and it's sad. Again. 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: We don't know if that's what his issue was and 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: if he you know, but I do know look at 144 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: this so we know. Just to name some of these 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: junior saw Aaron hernandez Andre Waters, Dave Derrison, they all 146 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: had confirmed CTE. And when you start to look at 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: further into these numbers, it's absolutely it's astonishing what they found. 148 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: So look at this. 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Two percent of the of the folks that they actually 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: have studied. 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: I take that back, it's nine hundred. 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, I I've played in the NFL that they fit 153 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: that had it. It's fifth that had fifteen plus years. 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the brains that they have studied 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: had CTE. So the Boston University, who's been at the 156 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: epicenter of this, they've been leading this again, they had 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five brains at the three hundred 158 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: and three hundred and seventy six, and of three hundred 159 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and forty five of them were former NFL players study 160 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: ninety two percent of them had CTE. And of those numbers, 161 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: that's where we get the ninety nine percent that play 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: fifteen or more had it. So you look at the 163 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: names we led, we talk about it, and to me, 164 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: that's why I said, it reminds me of cigarettes. Hey, 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, it can cause cancer. You can die, 166 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: or you can be sick or secondhand smoke. In this case, 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: it will be hurt to your family, pain that they 168 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: have to go through if you end up being having 169 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: these brain issues. People are still signing up. We're watching 170 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: at crazy numbers, We're attending at crazy numbers. Business is booming, 171 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: and that's just where we are. And the NFL has 172 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: pretty much survived anything. We know that they were lying 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: about ct We get the information about CTE, we get 174 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: a movie about CTE, and we still consume and we 175 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: watch it and you see the guy can kneel, and 176 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: people feel like, hey, he shouldn't be penalized because he's kneeled. 177 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: And Colin Kaepernick people are still watching. Domestic violence is 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: people are still watching. So if you're the NFL, you 179 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: have just putt your your there non position where they're king, 180 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and we've just consumed. We're entrench It's entrenched in us 181 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: and we love it and it's not going anywhere. And 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: to me, that's why hearing this guy's story, don't know 183 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: if it's true. Horrific events, terrible events, terrible decision making. 184 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: No one deserved this, you know. But on the CTE 185 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: side of the conversation, to me, I think here we are, 186 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: say twenty years later from really becoming a conversation. I 187 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: don't think that we care. Yeah, I don't think that 188 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: we care. And I think that the NFL kind of 189 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: has gone. 190 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a con And you know why, because 191 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: it's a conscious decision by everybody. So you're putting the 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 4: power in everybody else outside of the entity, outside of 193 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: the shield, right, we've we've we've confirmed it. 194 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: Whatever however much or. 195 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: Small or how big that that confirming was, it's been confirmed. 196 00:09:59,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Right. 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: So now it's up to you as a consumer, as 198 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: a player, it's up to you, like you know, the warnings. 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: Like you said, you talked about it perfectly well with 200 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: the cigarette analogy. I love that because the olden days 201 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: of TV, the olden days of film, the olden days, 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: the images that we saw was you know, with a cool, 203 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: like rustic looking actor with some Wrangler jeans and puffing 204 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: a cigarette and that was cool. Yeah, And so we 205 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: talked about the consumer consumerism when you look at the 206 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 4: product of the NFL, right for the most part, when 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: you look at that the things that they do on 208 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: the field, like we'll sit back and say, man, that's cool. 209 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Yep. And so the correlation one hundred percent adds up. 210 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say before we break here to 211 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: your earlier point, I was going to get to this 212 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: as well. 213 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: We're talking about tet. 214 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: My point was the NFL needs to just go ahead 215 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I told you, lay it all out. 216 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: And the reason why, one of the reasons at least 217 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: why they have it is because they haven't paid out everyone. 218 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: That's my point. 219 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you were saying earlier, they we found out 220 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: they were doing race based brain testing. We're finding out, 221 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, that only certain people are being paid others aren't. 222 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: They're holding up the money to people who were thought 223 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: they were getting this money, Families who thought they were 224 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: getting money, whether he posthumously, or folks who were dealing 225 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: with it in real time, because just to make sure 226 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: for the folks are clear, you can't determine TT unless 227 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: someone is dead, just for those who maybe didn't know that. 228 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: But so there's a bunch that we find out that 229 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: so many players who have filed for the claims. Looking 230 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: at this, you got players who filed for TTE issues 231 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: with brain dementia and forty one at filed for dementia 232 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: cases based on their diagnosis from the doctors, and only 233 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: about fifteen percent were approved. So there's a lot going 234 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: on with how they're getting people their money. Who's getting 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the money, And that's the issue to what you were 236 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: saying earlier, where they're still trying to keep quiet because 237 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: then they'll have to retroactively go back and take because 238 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: think about that guy retired of making it up seven 239 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, who is like, something ain't been right, 240 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and his family's like, man, something just changed five ten 241 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: years after retire, Well now they kind of know. Now 242 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: you can put a name that's what it was, or 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: that's what he's dealing with in the NFL doesn't want 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: to does that. But I believe moving forward, the NFL, 245 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: you ain't even got a hide none. 246 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: We are proven, We're all in. We are proven. 247 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: It is a drug that America needs, America wants no 248 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: matter what the situation is. We arguing about politics, we're 249 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: working about kneeling, we' working about CTE, We're working about 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: domestic bonds, we're arguing about use of military and stuff. Again, 251 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: we don't matter. People want their NFL. Give me my 252 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: parlays and to me the NFL at this point, they 253 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing else to hide because we have proven 254 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: we can't do without it as a society. 255 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: There you go. 256 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 257 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 258 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 259 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: listen live. 260 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 5: Hey, We're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 261 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 5: five to seven pm Eastern, but here's the thing. 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Listen Over Promised with 285 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 6: Covino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or 286 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcasts. 287 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: We've been talking about a particular quarterback, Yeah, who I 288 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: believe as ex mentally talent. We all talented, we all do. 289 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: But I believe there's some shortcomings and I need to 290 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: see something. But his coach is all In. I'll tell you. 291 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: We're talking about Justin Herbert. Here's what Jim Harbor had 292 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: to say about him. 293 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: That is from the heart. This is the truth. 294 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 7: Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is all of those that he's 295 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: counting on on offense, coaches, offensive line, playmakers, receivers, running. 296 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: Backs to get up to his level. 297 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 7: You know That's that's I wake up every day to 298 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 7: try to get. 299 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: To his level. 300 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: All right, Carrie, you're already said Jim Harball right there 301 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: is doing exactly what Jim Harball is supposed to do. 302 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Big up his quarterback. There you go. 303 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: You know what, Jim Barbara also big up Colin Kaepernick, 304 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, JJ McCarthy, talk about he's a ball. 305 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: He's the best quarterback I've ever had. 306 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: And no, he's the best quarterback in the I am 307 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: from Ann Arbor, Michigan, home of University of Michigan. That's right, 308 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: rooting for JJ and in the Gold Blue Boys. But 309 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: when I tell you JJ McCarthy, we were all blown 310 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: away that he was a tenth pick. Really we all said, who. 311 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: What quarterback? 312 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Uh huh JJ McCart Oh you said he was a 313 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: tenth quarterback. Take I got you no top ten, top 314 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: wait players, top ten players. But Jim Harball puts on 315 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: his khakis and he gets to selling people. And that's 316 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: what's going on here. Now here's what I mean. Justin 317 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Herbert is incredibly talented. That is not I mean, he's 318 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: literally if you're making it. We're talking about movies earlier. 319 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: If I'm making a movie and it's gonna be called 320 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback, it's gonna be him. Six' five, hair looks, 321 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: good got the, face looks like he could be A 322 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Southern california, quarterback you. Know and he's, big he's got 323 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: the big, arm he can throw it all. That, yeah 324 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and he's been. Good he has been. Good but to 325 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: go to What Jim harball, said that's WHERE i draw an. Issue, 326 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: now some of that has Been staley was his, coach 327 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: and he was he was not a great. Coach we 328 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: all know That, yes everybody ain't meant to be a head. 329 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: COACH i doubt he'll get a chance. Again maybe, wrong 330 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: at least in THE nfl. Level Maybe i'm. WRONG i 331 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: don't see that Happening Brenda staley because the way he 332 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: handled himself in tight. Situations so maybe you want to 333 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: cut him slack for a year or. Two, okay you had, 334 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: that you were dealing with. That but my challenge with him, 335 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: is To Jim harvall's, point, well you know what great quarterbacks. 336 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Do they elevate their teams in spite of it. All, 337 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: yes you got a bunch of. Backs your whole backfield 338 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: has Hurt Lamar. JACKSON a couple of years, back every 339 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: running back went. Down it was like a. Plague you 340 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to have a running back still was able 341 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: to produce and and and you, know and make things. 342 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Happen Right Patrick, Mahomes all your receivers go. Down he 343 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: was like he had a. Plague, yep still able to 344 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: go fifteen to two and get to the Super. Bowl 345 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: my point, is guys are gonna go. Down guys are 346 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna be. In you're gonna have a receiver you thought 347 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: was gonna be. Great he's gonna be. Mid you're gonna 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: bring in a free agent who you, Thought oh my, 349 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: gods glad we got he's gonna be. Mid great quarterbacks 350 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: find a way to elevate their team no matter. What 351 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: they find a way to keep them in, games to win. 352 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Games and that's Something Aaron rodgers didn't. Do despite if 353 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: you looked at the, numbers twenty eight, touchdowns eleven, interceptions 354 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: that was a good, season. Right, well, no that's why 355 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: his team was five and twelve because he didn't make 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: the play when he had. To And Justin herbert hasn't done, 357 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: that and nobody's saying he will. Never but if we're 358 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: keeping it real right, now that's what we want to 359 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: see from. HIM i want to throw some numbers. In 360 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: i'm thought to, You, kerrey real. Quick so in a 361 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: couple of games that, MATTERED i don't, know playoff. Games 362 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: you're playing The Jacksonville jaguars back in twenty twenty. 363 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: Three oh you going? Back OH i got to go. 364 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: BACK i got to do it because he's a six 365 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: best quarterback according to the rankings that they put out 366 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: a week and a half. Ago, well he let a 367 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: guy who wasn't in that top Ten Trevor lawrence come 368 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: back twenty seven points to win the. 369 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: Game and that game. 370 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: Alone Got Trevor lawrence all the money and we all 371 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: thought he was the. Man, yep call it The Trevor lawrence. 372 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Game call it THE i have the better hair. Game 373 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: and that's the game that got him. Paid what did he? 374 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: Do he didn't do. Bad two hundred and seventy three 375 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: yards Justin herbert. Right he had a, touchdown zero, Interceptions 376 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: he was sacked three, times but he gave up the. Lead, 377 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: yep you can't be you can't blow a twenty seven 378 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: to nothing Carry roads this. Year AND i just said to, 379 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: YOU i, Did you're that? Quarterback you can't do? 380 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: That hey cut. Him slager was a couple of years. 381 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: Ago let's go to last. 382 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Year you would say fourteen of thirty two to The 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: texans who were missing players all through the. 384 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: Year we were all wondering was wrong WITH. Cj Stroud and. 385 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Then they had a chance in that. Game they kept 386 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: having chances to win. It they lose thirty one to 387 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: thirty and he throws four. Interceptions he kept, saying, HEY. Cj, 388 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: stroud do you want to? 389 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: Win here you. 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: Go passer rating of forty point nine sack four. Times 391 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: so my point is. 392 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: He. 393 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Can't you can't sell me on he's that guy WHEN 394 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: i haven't seen it when it mattered most and in crunch, 395 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: TIME i haven't seen it. 396 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: Yet big, GAMES i haven't seen it. Yet in, PLAYOFFS 397 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: i haven't seen him. Yet can it come? 398 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: Maybe but right NOW i just want to finally see 399 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: The Justin herbert, job you, know keep selling me. On 400 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: the talent's, there the yards are there at times a 401 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: couple of, seasons you, know BUT i want to see. 402 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: More and AGAIN i name a few players they keep. 403 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: Doing Trevor. Lawrence they kept selling me On Trevor. Lawrence all, 404 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Right i'm not saying he's, horrible BUT i want to see. 405 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: It Justin. Herbert it's all, there take it to that next. 406 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: Level it's. Time everything you said it's. Accurate it's. 407 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: Time we've heard enough about him in the playoffs set, listen, 408 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: Listen we've heard. 409 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: Enough about who. 410 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: He can, be supposed to. Be he's supposed to be 411 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: all the, intangibles everything you just. Named he needs to 412 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: win some playoff. Games he needs to win some big, 413 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: games and not because of the team stepping up to get. 414 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: It. 415 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 4: Done, No, no it's about. You this conversation is About Justin. 416 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: Herbert his coach is doing the right, thing supposed to 417 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: taking the, heat you, know putting it on everybody. 418 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: Else except for that. 419 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: Guy because quarterbacks egos and who they are, internally it's 420 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: very it's very, fragile and MOST nfl players. 421 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Are but the quarterback. 422 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 4: When everything's, good they're gonna get the. Praise when everything's, 423 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 4: bad they're going to catch it. Right and So Justin 424 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: herbert over this past, offseason he played that game he 425 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: just talked about in the. Playoffs they should not have 426 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 4: lost that game to The Houston. Texans The texans weren't 427 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: the same team they were the year, prior and so 428 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: they should have been able to win that game Off 429 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: Justin herbert, alone and he did not show. Up it's 430 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: time for him to show up and be the man 431 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 4: and lead this team and actually come out and be 432 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: a little bit more aggressive with who he is. 433 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: Too he's very. 434 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 4: Reserved he's very, calm AND i love that, about you, 435 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: know the leader of your team as a. Quarterback but 436 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: when is he going to show That Brett fahr, fight 437 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: That Peyton manning, fight That Tom brady. Fight there's an 438 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: element of being an elevated superstar at that quarterback position 439 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: that you have to have and sometimes you may not have. 440 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: It and some guys are going to be really good 441 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: quarterbacks and we'll be talking about him like Matt stafford 442 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: at the end of his. Career if that's if this 443 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 4: is the way it ends up right, now the way it's. 444 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: Heading a guy that couldn't get it done in one 445 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: spot maybe goes to another spot later on and gets 446 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: the right pieces and. Win but right, now that's who 447 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: he reminds me. Of we talked About Matthew stafford the same. 448 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: Way he was a guy that looked, great like if 449 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: you wanted to start AN nfl, quarterback a franchise, Quarterback 450 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: Matthew stafford would have been that guy when he got. 451 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Drafted herbert's been that guy right. 452 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: Now he, is in my, mind the exact match of 453 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: Who Matthew stafford, is And Matthew stafford was better at 454 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: that time that we're saying these. Things so he has 455 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: a lot to. Prove this is his chance to do. 456 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: It he has a coach that believes In i'm a 457 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: quarterback friendly, coach has a. TEAM i think it's gonna 458 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 4: win that. Division this YEAR i think had the potential 459 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: to win that. Division let's go win. It let's go 460 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: win some games so we can really give him the 461 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: praise that everybody else has been getting them for a long. 462 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: Time the one Thing i'll say he has in his 463 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: favor IS i think What Jim harball is going to 464 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: do and continue to kind of create the team as 465 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: AND i think that's gonna be creating situations Where Justin 466 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: herbert can be himself but not have to be, everything 467 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: where he can, say all, right we're. 468 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: Gonna run the football more we saw that last. 469 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Year Jim harbaugh is gonna continue to run that, football 470 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: and he's gonna continue to improve a, defense because If 471 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Jim harbor ain't gonna do nothing, else, yes he's gonna 472 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: give you a, defense and he's gonna run the. Football 473 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: and THEN i think that will Enable Justin herbert to psychologically, Say, 474 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Okay i'm gonna live And i'm gonna ump it. 475 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: Down we'll punt. 476 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: It defense will give me the ball back and now 477 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: maybe this is the drive that you scored that big, 478 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: touchdown or he leads for that big field, goal or 479 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: whatever it may be THAT i think he's in a 480 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: better position now With Jim, harbaugh because, Again i'm gonna 481 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: sall him out little Bit i'm gonna Throw i'm gonna 482 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: throw them some. Ball With Brandon, Staley i'm throwing some 483 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: bail with. THAT i, agree because again that's Why i'm 484 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: Throwing caleb a little. Bit Caleb williams with his coach 485 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: and with The bears last year they had a handful 486 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: of Games they're, like coach will be, Doing. 487 00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah that was. 488 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Bad, Yeah So i'm gonna throw him a little bell 489 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to. That but All i'm gonna keep 490 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: saying is that's, cool show. 491 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Me, no it's. 492 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: Time it's to shut up and show me. Time, yes 493 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: For Justin, herbert he's been in the league long. Enough 494 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: he's not a first, year second, year third. Year it's 495 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: that time, now and it's gonna be, hard and this 496 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: is What but this is what separates, you Right this 497 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: is what separates those quarterbacks because you are in a 498 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: conference that Is i've said, it nobody wants to hear 499 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: the lesser conference right, now but not when it comes 500 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: to the big name. Quarterbacks, yes you got the four, 501 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: horsemen if you, will we're really. 502 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: One but the other. 503 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: Three you Got Patrick, mahomes you Got Joe, Burrow Josh, 504 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Allen Lamar. 505 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: Jackson are you? Next is It Aaron? Rodgers is IT. Cj? 506 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: Shroud is It Justin? Herbert you? Know is It? 507 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: Gino point, being it's time for you to want to 508 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: compete and get in that mix. 509 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: Of those four hundred percent. AGREE i mean he has 510 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: talent to do. It we know that we need to see. 511 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: It he has a team, that's like you, said it's 512 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: better constructed to win. Now they can run the, ball 513 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 4: they can play, defense they can limit other teams. Possessing 514 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: so you, know you don't have to go out and 515 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: force yourself to throw for five hundred yards and seven 516 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 4: touchdowns to, win like you have a more. 517 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: Balance that was him last. 518 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Year, yes last year you're looking at carry almost thirty 519 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: nine hundred, yards twenty three, touchdowns only three. Interceptions they 520 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: ran the ball, out they were lied on their, defense 521 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: and they were able to move get obviously to the 522 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: tune of a playoff. Appearance, yeah and that's what you, 523 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: want you, know BUT i need you to make those 524 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: game winning. 525 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 3: Plays And i'll keep giving you. Examples Russell wilson when 526 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: he was in his. Prime that's what he. Did, yeah 527 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: can make that game winning. 528 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: Play Patrick, Mahomes, hey that ain't my best year last, 529 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: year you, know but putting it on a resume. Tape 530 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: we're not gonna put last, year but we are going 531 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: to put a handful of plays winning. Plays oh, yeah 532 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: third and, five use his legs or make the proper, 533 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: play hit a, guy keep the drive. 534 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: Going third. 535 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: Down he led the league in thir down Conversions Patrick 536 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: Mahomes ultimately fifty three percent of his were first. Downs, 537 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: ultimately that's all matters with. Quarterbacks DID i get this 538 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: the first? Down did we move the? Ball did whether 539 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: it be just time with. Possession maybe we didn't get 540 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: points out of, it but, dange we got another two 541 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: to three minutes out of the. 542 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: Game That, yeah, no that part right. 543 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 4: There BUT i do want to, say after all this 544 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: that we said About Justin, herbert it's true he needs 545 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: to step. Up it's his time to be that that 546 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 4: alpha guy and lead them to the big. Wins his 547 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: supporting cast does need to step up. 548 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: Out i'm Not i'm not. Disagreeing so LET'S i want 549 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: to put that out there for the. Listen they, do they. 550 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Do that's WHY i think Having Jim harball creating an 551 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: actual a, system a, style a game plan around him 552 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: is going to help him and the. Team, also what 553 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: didn't help him's, Going, okay got my dog, Back Big, 554 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Mike Big mike, said big. Psych Mike williams, Like i'm. 555 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: Out you just got. Here that he hit him with the. 556 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: Magic i'm not even gonna be. 557 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: Here that. 558 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: Counts look. Good why you hit Up? Robdie why hit 559 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: him with the? Magic you just got? 560 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: Back were, excited you, know got, Familiarity he got a 561 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: big receiver. Back it didn't work out In pittsburgh with 562 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: The jets and on that and welcome, Back Big mike 563 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: hit him with the. League, course so not so, fast 564 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: not so. FAST i, know justin on the phone with 565 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: him right, now there was SOMETHING i, said what just? 566 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Happened you know he probably got. There Jim harbaugh was 567 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: So Jim, harball here you, go, buddy and patting him 568 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: on the bag and who. 569 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: He was, Like, No i'm gonna go ahead and call it. 570 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: Career i'm gonna go ahead and call it. Career that's. 571 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: It how many years Did mike william Play you, Know 572 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: i'm off the top Of i'm gonna go, eight say, 573 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: eight what do you? 574 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: THINK i think a? Two, yeah But i'm not sure 575 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: it's somewhere around, that. Right. Yeah twenty seventeen he came in. Both. 576 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 577 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah twenty, seventeen uh, crazy. 578 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Biggest year for, him had a couple of good with 579 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen he had a thousand, yards twenty twenty one 580 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: he had eleven hundred, yards and then the year twenty 581 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: twenty two he had almost nine, hundred but that left 582 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: to be desired two hundred and forty, nine one hundred 583 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: and thirty, two one hundred and sixty. Six last, year 584 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: maybe it was that. 585 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: Time Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup 586 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports 587 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio app SEARCH fsr 588 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: to listen. 589 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: Live all, Right so there's a. 590 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Piece there's an article That dave m mcminimu OF espn 591 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: did and it kind of talks About bronnie and where 592 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: he is right now and kind of what the expectations 593 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: are going into year two for. Him and the title 594 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Inside Bronnie's james is year two development with The. Lakers 595 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: and if you read through a couple of, things you 596 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: just learned real quick you learn That bronnie obviously Through Summer, 597 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: league he said he's not a fan of, it not 598 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: so much to. Competition he loves the, competition but he 599 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: doesn't like all The vegas stuff that goes on with. 600 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: It he just kind of wants to hoop and that 601 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: be that had a couple of solid, outings had some 602 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: not so, desirable including the one Against Cooper. Flag not 603 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: a great outing for him in a sense of big 604 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: time scoring or anything like, that BUT i did like 605 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: that he looked like he wanted to smoke, defensively wanted 606 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: the Guard Cooper. 607 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 3: Flag love. 608 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: That so the question, Becomes carrie With, bronni what exactly 609 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: are folks? Expecting and can he CRACK Jj reddick's rotation still, 610 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: overcoming you, know getting past that heart condition still a 611 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: couple years. Ago can he jump into being in the 612 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: rotation and getting some actual meaningful. MINUTES i look at 613 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: it like this With. Bronni bronni's in a great situation 614 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: for a chance to do. That And i'll tell you, 615 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: Why and that's BECAUSE i don't think The lakers drastically 616 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: improve their. Roster and when you look at what THE 617 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: nba currently, is this isn't the days of you got 618 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: your five star as a six man and maybe one 619 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: other guy and that kind of is that you roll 620 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: it out. 621 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: There you look at the better teams right. 622 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: Now these teams are, Deep these teams are DOING i 623 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: said it a lot during the. Postseason you're seeing a 624 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of line. Changes, yep like hockey pacers were thrown 625 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: in three four other guys at a, time boom, boom boom. 626 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Boom you look at the Way minnesota was Swarming yoki's 627 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons, ago and just the way they 628 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: do it bringing a bunch of. Guys you look at The, 629 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: pistons a bunch of younger. Guys you look At Houston, 630 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: rockets a bunch of guys, right just waves of, young, 631 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: athletic energetic guys coming at. You and, then of, course 632 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: So Oklahoma City, thunders who are currently the reigning. Champs 633 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: SO i think The lakers put themselves in a position 634 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Where bronnie they might have to rely on ten twelve 635 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: minutes a, game you, know thirteen fourteen minutes a game From, 636 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: bonnie just simply as a can you be the, Energizer? 637 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Bunny you're twenty, twenty twenty years. Old we need all 638 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: the energy we can. Get we need all the guys 639 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: who can. Go you, see what did you see a 640 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: lot in the? POSTSEASON a lot of ninety four? Feet, 641 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: yeah teams were pissons were checking The knicks ninety four. 642 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Feet you got The thunder checking people ninety four, feet 643 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: The pacers checking, faces and YOU i feel like The 644 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: lakers haven't done, enough aren't deep enough to kind of just, 645 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: say you, know, hey we Can you're not requiring that 646 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: From Luca Marcus, smart who is a good. 647 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: Defender when he's. 648 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: Healthy he's only played fifty four games in the last 649 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: couple of, seasons so you don't really know what you're 650 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna get from. Him and Then Austin reeves is not 651 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: a guy you want to have out there going, crazy you, 652 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: know garden people ninety four. 653 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: Feet he's an okay. Defender people pick on him a. 654 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Lot so to, me that is his best way to 655 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: absolutely try his, best to be a, dog to be a, 656 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: pest to be an annoyance on the defensive. End now 657 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: you're still learning only your second, year didn't play a 658 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: lot last year at, All so he's gonna get cooked at. 659 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: Times you know WHAT i? Mean when you like he 660 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: got cooked last year Geting Tyrese. Max he's An All. 661 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: Star so you're gonna have times where these garden guys 662 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: who are gonna still say continue to say welcome to THE. 663 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Nba BUT i absolutely don't think that The lakers have 664 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: enough to just to neglect. Him there's gonna be times 665 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: where they're gonna have to, Say, bronnie we need ten 666 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: twelve real minutes out of, you simply based off Because 667 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: luca's gonna have a night. Off lebron is about to 668 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: be forty, one really like fifty one if you consider 669 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: all the postseason runs he's gonna. Miss SO i just 670 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: think The lakers are not in a position to say, No. 671 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: BRONNIE i think he's gonna absolutely have some. Games it's 672 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: a nice period where they're gonna have to rely on, 673 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: him not saying he's gonna be, excellent not saying they're 674 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna get amazing minutes all the. Time but the but 675 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: the the desire for him to play is are the 676 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: need for him to. PLAY i think he's gonna have 677 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: to be there from time to time because they don't 678 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: have enough enough young. 679 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: Lakes is it realistic to Expect bronnie to crack The lakers'. Rotation, 680 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: yes but with that being, said that means they're not 681 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: in a good. Place he's not ready to be a 682 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: regular rotational. 683 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 7: Guy. 684 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: Right i'm looking at their their guys right, now and 685 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: if you look just their nine, deep THAT i think 686 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: their nine deep will. Be you Got, smart you Got, 687 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 4: luca you got, lebron you Got La, rabia you Got, 688 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: aighton you Got, ruie you Got, reeves you Got, vincent 689 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: and then you know that last spot connect or? Him, 690 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: Right like in, theory that's probably what it would. Be 691 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: on any given a, night you're gonna need all ten 692 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: of those guys to. Play so what you're saying and 693 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: what they're stating in this article is. Correct but if 694 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: he he's one of those guys you're expecting to come 695 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: in and can give you twelve minutes of super productive, 696 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: BASKETBALL i don't know if that's happening. Right SO i 697 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: think what this says for me WHEN i look at 698 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: this this, statement AND i think it will be. True 699 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: The lakers still need some help and they still need some. 700 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: Depth and WHAT i gather from this is he's gonna 701 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: be able to get some minutes because they need him in. 702 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Again all the guys you just, named, yep a lot 703 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: of them are either bigs or big Ish ruie Even 704 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: Dalton connects is now he's not a big but like 705 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: he's not guarding. Faster, yeah Like vincent would be the 706 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: only Day vinchen is one of the only guys who 707 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of can you, know smaller pests can get in 708 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: there and mix things. 709 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Up so they're GONNA i think they're gonna Need. 710 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Branny but, AGAIN Jj reddick talked about he's gonna have 711 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: to be in great shape and he's gonna have to 712 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: be in tip top shape to be able to do. 713 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: That cause again it might say that's ALL i need from, 714 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: you go, lockdown go be. Annoying and he's got a 715 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: long way to, go and he's got the right person 716 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: there to teach him That Marcus. Smart, yeah When Marcus 717 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: smart got The, boston he was a scored in, college 718 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: put up a lot of. Points his role wasn't that 719 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: when he got The. Boston it was to be a, 720 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: pest to be a defensive. 721 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: Guy and that's what he. Was and he Has smart 722 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: there now he needs to learn everything That smart. Nos 723 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: so that's a great that's a great point. There so 724 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: what do you brought. 725 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: To WHAT i hear from this is The lakers are 726 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be as most teams are With. 727 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: Luca they're gonna be Very luca. 728 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: Dependent AND i Think luca coming out that men's health 729 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: article being in great. SHAPE i think they're because you 730 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: look at, it they're not as. Deep they have, players 731 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: but they're not in the same type of the. System 732 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: isn't like some of these other, teams young, energetic go 733 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: get it The pistons of The, Rockets orlando a bunch of, young, 734 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: hungry go getty. Guys they don't have that per. Se 735 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: they gotta they got some guys who can play ru 736 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: we can play at, times you know you maybe sometimes 737 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: you want More Usin reeves has been, solid for. Sure 738 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: he's police found his, role his niche in the, league 739 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: and it's probably bought himself six more years in the, 740 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: league without a. Doubt but they don't they don't have 741 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: that thing. YET i don't think The lakers have found 742 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: their identity, Yet like we're absolutely at, This, yeah this 743 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 1: is what we. Are and all the other teams that are, 744 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: contenders you, know the six or seven, teams maybe three or, 745 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: two you, know three or four from kind of each. 746 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Conference they know what they. Are you know what the thunder, 747 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: are you know what the rockets. Are gonna be, energetic fast, 748 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: paced harder nor defense and In kadi you can get 749 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: us a bucket and crunch time when we need and 750 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: you know what the nuggets. 751 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: Are AND i have no. 752 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: Idea if they have an idea who their starting five 753 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: is going to. Be that's gonna be the most critical 754 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: thing with this team because obviously you look at, it 755 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: you would think you bring Over. Smart luca's not a, 756 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 4: defender So smart's gonna, start, right So smart's gonna play the, 757 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: point and you know in, theory or be the other 758 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: Guard Luca lebron and, SEE i Think La rabia and 759 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: agents to start and Bring ruy as that secondary ball 760 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 4: handler off the bench to let him go eat and so, 761 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: LIKE i want to see how they make this thing. 762 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: Work AND i think that's the first. Step we need 763 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 4: to know what the lake and that's. Problem that's gonna 764 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: be one of the THINGS Jj reddick has to. Do 765 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: figure out a row t because that's the thing They 766 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: darvin ham didn't have. 767 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: It he was hands in his. 768 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Pockets Ham hams make you dance he was hands in 769 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: his pocket and THEN jj thought he had it master 770 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: going into last. SEASON i figured it, out here's the best. 771 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: Road this is the rotation that wins a bunch of. 772 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Games and he had to start twitching things around. Him and, 773 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: then you, know in trying to figure that. Out BUT 774 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: i go back To. Luca, luca we read he's in, 775 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: shape he looks. Good and to me and you being 776 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: a you, know math, fan and you can kind of 777 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: react to, this but this Is luca's very, good very 778 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: very good to great. Moment this is his chance to 779 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: go for, Oh luca absolent, man lucas one of the 780 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: ones to being. No one of the all time. Ones to, 781 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: me this is where he has a chance to take 782 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: it to the next. Level we see the difference in his. 783 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Physique we see and this isn't just a WHO i 784 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: worked out a little bit over the, Summer, no this 785 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: is you can tell that is a mind set, change eating, 786 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: diet eating diet and having a motivation for the first 787 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: time in his. Life somebody didn't want him for the 788 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: first time in his. Life somebody was, like, no we 789 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: good on. 790 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: You yep. 791 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: No BUT i was ALL nba, fo, NO i know 792 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: but we good on. You, YEAH i dragged the team 793 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: in the, FINALS i, know but you can. Go, YES 794 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: i get buckets. ON i scored seventy some points IN 795 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: i know peace Right and for the first, Time luca 796 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: doneons felt that sting OF i ain't want, It and 797 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: NOW i think that added. Motivation he's getting in. Shape 798 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: people keep forgetting he was nicked up a. Little he 799 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: was nicked up throughout the season last. Year seems to 800 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: be in better, shape better. HEALTH i think that's what 801 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna, see a heavy dose Of. Luca they're going 802 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: to be heavily relying on, him and he's gonna be 803 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: out on a. Mission AND i Think i'm telling You 804 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: i'm not a betting, man BUT i will almost put 805 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: some money on him IN mvp right. Now oh if 806 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: you got a few. Hundred you, Know i'm not telling you. 807 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: Anybody this Ain't Shekel, city but dang, it Because LUKE 808 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: i think he is for a. Vengeance luca already take 809 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: things personally and go at he. Takes and now you 810 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: telling Me i'm not good, enough you can go and 811 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: you want eighty six years old or always, injured and that's. 812 00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: Who you want over. 813 00:36:59,640 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: Me. 814 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay oh, YEAH i just, SO i was just about 815 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: to close on this. House uh, Huh, okay got bounced 816 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: out the first. Round didn't look, great he did, not 817 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: And edwards at all we had all the smoke was 818 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: walking around Figure aura out here In la walking around 819 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: with fans. 820 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: Tight, Hey i'm just hanging WITH la. Fans. 821 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: YEAH i think all of that adds to an amazing 822 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: season on the way From. Luca and but they're gonna 823 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: be heavily relying upon, him and again they don't have 824 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: to me the defensive structure and the bunch of guys 825 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: who are defensive minded to WHERE i THINK browni might 826 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: have to be, used even if you're looking down you, 827 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: GO i really didn't want, to but almost have. 828 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 4: To THAT'S i, mean it's a good. POINT i mean 829 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: their roster isn't built that, way. RIGHT I, mean the 830 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: only one THAT i see as real defenders on this 831 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 4: list is. SMART i, Mean lebron can play, defense, Obviously 832 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: ayton at his, best the shot, blocker. REBOUNDER i wouldn't 833 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 4: say he's like an elite, switcher so he can really 834 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: guard a. Guard ruey doesn't play D reeves as in. 835 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 4: Either so it's they're gonna have to outscore a lot of, 836 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 4: people And luca can do that with a team like this, 837 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 4: Though so it's gonna be interesting to see how it 838 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 4: all messes. 839 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: Out. MAN i just think he's gonna be on a. 840 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 3: Tear he looked. 841 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: Great yeah he got he had some some shoulders and 842 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: some STUFF i never even knew he, had never knew 843 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: he had