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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha Moome.

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Speaker 2: Stuff I never told you production buy Heart Radio, and

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Speaker 2: welcome to another sub subsegment of fictional women around the world.

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Speaker 2: I have to say this is a first for me.

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Speaker 2: I started an outline on someone else, Dina from the

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Speaker 2: Last of Us too, because it is Last of Us

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Speaker 2: Day coming up in September. My birthday also that yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's the first. It's a first.

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Speaker 2: But today we are talking about Mortitia Adams, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can see our Wednesday Adams episode that we justreran

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Speaker 2: as classic or is about to re run as classic.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah.

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Speaker 2: There will be spoilers for the Wednesday show, the second

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Speaker 2: season and the first season, I guess, but I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to keep them vague. But there will be spoilers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, So today we are talking about the matriarch

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Speaker 2: of the Adams family, Martitia Adams born Mortitia Frump. Her

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Speaker 2: name is a play on Mortician, perhaps obviously. She was

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Speaker 2: played in live action by Carolyn Jones, Ellie Harvey, Angelica Houston,

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Speaker 2: and currently by Catherine Zada Jones in the Netflix show Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: The Adams Family is a fictional family created by Charles Adams.

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Speaker 2: It originated as a comic strip in nineteen thirty eight

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Speaker 2: and followed the adventures of a creepy, kooky family. They

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Speaker 2: weren't named until the TV show debuted in nineteen sixty four.

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Speaker 2: It's darkly humorous and very strange and has been brought

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Speaker 2: to live action in movies and TV shows and theme

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Speaker 2: song you probably hear every Halloween if you're like me.

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Speaker 2: People loved it, although it did take a minute to

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Speaker 2: really take off. It was a show told from the

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Speaker 2: point of view of the outsiders, so they are normalized,

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Speaker 2: and the quote normal people are strange, they're wealthy, supernatural mistakes. Allegedly,

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Speaker 2: Adams loosely based Mortitia on his first wife, who had

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Speaker 2: the same pale skin and strikingly dark features, and the

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Speaker 2: house on a house in his neighborhood. You can go

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Speaker 2: look up at pictures and I'm like, yep, I see it.

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Speaker 2: And at the head of the family was Mortitia. Mortitia

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Speaker 2: married Gomez Adams, and together they had Wednesday and Pugsy

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Speaker 2: and in some versions Wednesday Junior, Pugsley Junior, and Pubert.

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Speaker 2: Pubert originally was in the family, but they were worried

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Speaker 2: the censors would stop them, so they took it.

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Speaker 1: I stn't remember a few words, so that sus to me, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I've family lived with Uncle Fester, Thing Lurch

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Speaker 2: and cousin it. Morticia is cool, steely, loyal, and deeply

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Speaker 2: caring about her family. She is unfaced a danger and

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Speaker 2: do get up to stuff. And while she is pretty protective,

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Speaker 2: she's also very like, let them spread their wings. I

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Speaker 2: guess they're dark wings of torture. She does maintain that

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Speaker 2: her children uphold traditional Adam's family values them possibly related.

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Speaker 2: She was there rebellious and rambunctious as a child, and

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Speaker 2: her parents didn't really do anything to stop her, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that impacted her parenting style. I

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Speaker 2: was late to the Adams family game, but I loved

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Speaker 2: how openly sexual and passionate Morticia Gomez we're together.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really refreshing.

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Speaker 2: They are often labeled as the first sexually active couple

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Speaker 2: on TV. It's pretty playful and sweet, even if what

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Speaker 2: they're talking about can be kind of gothy BDSM dark.

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Speaker 1: Which is all cool with consent, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Generally outside of what is displayed as typical in our

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Speaker 2: mainstream media, especially back then. But they're fun together. Here's

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Speaker 2: a quote from sci Fi. Her marriage is absolutely hashtag

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Speaker 2: relationship goals for anyone who wants a healthy, long term relationship,

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Speaker 2: because it challenges the stereotype that years of love and

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Speaker 2: kids automatically leads to passive misery. Her guy is passionately

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Speaker 2: her endeavors, respects her thoughts sans mansplaining, and frequently complements

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Speaker 2: her brains and beauty. Oh and let's not forget that

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Speaker 2: he's filthy rich. It's a bold, refreshing portrayal of a

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Speaker 2: marriage that was certainly revolutionary then and isn't explored as

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Speaker 2: often as it should be on TV today. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's very supportive of her. He's very like, you've got this,

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Speaker 2: I will be there for you. She is multi talented.

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Speaker 2: She can speak multiple languages, play multiple instruments, and is

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Speaker 2: an excellent fencer in the new show. She's also what

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Speaker 2: it's called a dove or a type of supernatural spellcaster

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Speaker 2: and psychic. We'll get more into that later. She's also

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Speaker 2: a big fan of carnivorous plants. But yeah, and the

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Speaker 2: show Wednesday. She is a former student of Nevermore Academy,

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Speaker 2: where her children are now attending. It's a gothy magic

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Speaker 2: out of concern despite their fraught relationship. It was really

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Speaker 2: interesting because she was kind of like, maybe I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: join because Wednesday clearly wants space. But then she was

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Speaker 2: so worried about Wednesday she joined anyway. She met Gomez

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Speaker 2: at the school and the two fell in love. She

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Speaker 2: was pretty successful at school, a member of the night

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Speaker 1: She also keeps a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Secrets, largely out of a sometimes misguided attempt to protect

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Speaker 2: the ones she loves. A lot of the show does

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Speaker 2: revolve around Wednesday and Mortitious similarities and differences and their conflicts.

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Speaker 2: They're both good at fencing, both psychics. The Wednesday is

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Speaker 2: a raven, which is the dark version the dark visions,

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Speaker 2: and Mortitia is a dove, which is the positive version.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday resents her mother's secrets and what she views as

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Speaker 2: her overbearing nature, and to be fair, so far, both

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Speaker 2: seasons do come back to a secret Mortitia has kept.

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Speaker 2: In the first season, it's revealed that she was being

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Speaker 2: harrassed and stalked by Garrett Gates, whose murder. Wednesday was

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Speaker 2: trying to solve Garrett and Gomez faults, and mortitiou stepped in,

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Speaker 2: accidentally stabbing Garrett with the sword. It later turns out

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Speaker 2: that that she didn't accidentally kill him, but I digress.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to watch it if you want.

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Speaker 1: To learn more.

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Speaker 2: In season two, Wednesday resents her mother's warnings about her

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Speaker 2: She's like bleeding from the eyes and nose from these powers,

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Speaker 2: and contacting family members that Mortitia doesn't have the best

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Speaker 2: I suppose, and Mortitia wins, destroying the spellbook Wednesday had

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Speaker 2: been using. Uh. Mortitia is worried her mother will treat

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Speaker 2: Wednesday like her sister Ophelia, who is sent to an asylum.

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Speaker 2: Her mother also thinks that Gomez is beneath Mortitia, so

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Speaker 2: When you've learned why Gomez doesn't have powers.

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Speaker 1: But again I digress. You have to watch for more.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting because a lot of that stuff I've

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Speaker 1: They're doing a lot of like lore building in there.

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Speaker 1: But I did I remember.

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Speaker 2: I think after we did the episode on Wednesday the

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Speaker 1: Thinking like, this is so cool.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen like a relationship like this that is

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Speaker 1: Like between her and Gomez, and so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to see it continue, and clearly it's had

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Speaker 2: an impact.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the.

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Speaker 2: Articles I was reading about this was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it got canceled pretty the first TV show got canceled

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