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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burrie, Ohio. Is Cleveland Browns Daily on FIFESP in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bou Bishop and Nathan Zigura. All right,

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Speaker 1: we are doing it live out here in Bourrea at

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Speaker 1: the c c MC. Bou Bishop merely and the great

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Speaker 1: z Um. I want to I want to do uh,

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Speaker 1: a picture for you. So Friday night was watching the game. Um,

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Speaker 1: and we have a lot to get into on that front.

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Speaker 1: But there became a point where, you know, as as

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Speaker 1: is the case often with children, they want to go

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Speaker 1: play the game. And so I said to myself, well,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. They're young, they go back to school

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Speaker 1: this week. Let's take advantage of this. They want they

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Speaker 1: want you to come spin it around him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: God knows I can do that in my sleep. So I, um,

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Speaker 1: out there and we're spinning it around, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of myself, I really need to keep paying attention to

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Speaker 1: this preseason game. So I opened the Browns app and

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Speaker 1: I hit listens live, and I listened to and and

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Speaker 1: I would say this, whether you were one of my

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Speaker 1: great friends or not, I thought you and Jim were sensational.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was so natural. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was so entertaining. You were you were always prepared,

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Speaker 1: as you always are. But the balance of it just

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Speaker 1: there was there was nothing I would change. It was

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Speaker 1: such a clean, Chris professional broadcast. You learned as you

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Speaker 1: were listening. Um. I found always know exactly what was

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Speaker 1: And so not that I'm surprised that you'd be good

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Speaker 1: at this, but sir, you are. Good job by to you, buddy, Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, But second of all, it's

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Speaker 1: very easy when you're working with Jim Donovan who is

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Speaker 1: but don't understand you you were. You were sensational, buddy,

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Speaker 1: you were. You had the right that's it. Look, he's established,

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Speaker 1: he's the voice, the icon, and you're stepping into big

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Speaker 1: time shoes. Obviously there's a lot in that. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I thought your balance of of entertainment informative,

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Speaker 1: and he had it all. He crushed it. Thanks. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that, dude. Probably, and I'll keep working hard

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Speaker 1: to keep getting better. And you know, it's it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It was just fun. And the thing I told Gibbey

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Speaker 1: I said it pretty much everything that could go wrong

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Speaker 1: has gone wrong here to open the game for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: when when Deshan was on the field, you losing, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 1: you know, I got drops from Anthony Schwartz, a miss

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Speaker 1: one misfire on the first play that had a chance

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Speaker 1: He never does that. So the start was not obviously

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Speaker 1: in that second quarter, and you think yourself, Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns team that doesn't have a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jerome Ford put on an absolute show. Mjas

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Speaker 1: about the kid Chris Odom, the USFL Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: Greg Newson will be back eventually. Like the the back

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Speaker 1: the way, Greedy looked great Friday night. A J. Green

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Speaker 1: which was certainly not lost on m J when he

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Speaker 1: But you're right this defense, and I think defensive end

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Speaker 1: So like that's a lot there, and I do wonder

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, I did say Jerome Ford, and

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Speaker 1: to be fine. But going forward, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, you know, we Nathan said it, you're not

430
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Speaker 1: gonna see Russette on Sunday, you might as well play.

431
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Speaker 1: You might as well play him again on Sunday and

432
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Speaker 1: play him and get him reps provided he I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean provided that suspended for the year. By correct,

434
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Speaker 1: I mean, as long as he's eligible, you might as

435
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Speaker 1: well give him reps here for the next two games.

436
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Speaker 1: Let him throw it a little bit um. You know,

437
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Speaker 1: that's another part of this. You know, when they when

438
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Speaker 1: you when you think about the big picture portion of

439
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Speaker 1: this is you don't know what his mental state is

440
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Speaker 1: when he does decide to play or when he's allowed

441
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Speaker 1: to play. I should say, when he's allowed to play,

442
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Speaker 1: you have no idea what his mental status. And that's

443
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Speaker 1: what that's gonna feel like, because he hasn't done it

444
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Speaker 1: for a long time and and so he's gonna have

445
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Speaker 1: to wrap his mind around that a little bit too.

446
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Speaker 1: Um So that's it's all just really complicated and tricky,

447
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Speaker 1: and it pulls you in a lot of different directions.

448
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Speaker 1: And I just keep coming back to the fact that

449
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Speaker 1: there is no damn reason why this wasn't done a

450
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Speaker 1: long time ago. There's certainly a timetable for it. We

451
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Speaker 1: acquired him in what March? It was March. The n

452
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Speaker 1: C Double A Tournament was on Ohio State was playing, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: it was. It was on a Friday. It was a

454
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Speaker 1: bit of the March. So you've marched twenty or whatever

455
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Speaker 1: it was. You know, he's been acquired since then. You

456
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Speaker 1: could have reaped. You could have played out this process

457
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Speaker 1: in April. You could have played it out in May.

458
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Speaker 1: The idea that that this process has not been played

459
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Speaker 1: out yet is really sucks and it's put everybody in

460
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Speaker 1: a tough spot and you need to have some resolution

461
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Speaker 1: of it. We'll go around the NFL landscape a little

462
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Speaker 1: bit later. On the other side of this quick time

463
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Speaker 1: out Coach Tefanski at the podium. It listen to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Bron's Daily on ESPN Cleveland, m Cleveland Browns Daily e

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Speaker 1: S b N Cleveland. We're waiting coach Stefanski at the

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Speaker 1: podium here in the next minute or so as we

467
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Speaker 1: broadcast live at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. Uh, the

468
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Speaker 1: last two days of camp for the public. We will

469
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Speaker 1: have the joint practices on on Thursday and Friday into

470
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Speaker 1: the Eagles game on Sunday. UM, so the last two

471
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Speaker 1: opportunities for the folks get out here. I gotta tell you,

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you've ever had a I know

473
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Speaker 1: we had sticky days a couple You've never had weather

474
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Speaker 1: like this for Augustine camp. Yeah, I mean we only

475
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Speaker 1: it's storm that one Friday. Um, I'm trying to six

476
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Speaker 1: seventy eight. Even like the day was flooded over here. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: it wasn't there. Yeah, we were still able to go out.

478
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Speaker 1: Speaking over there, his coach Devans get the podium, guys,

479
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Speaker 1: really good, Alright, fire away it Kevin his miles back today,

480
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Speaker 1: He's not, he's but he's excused. I don't because he's

481
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Speaker 1: little back. Yeah, it's great. He's been working very hard

482
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Speaker 1: inside and out here, so ready to get back on

483
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Speaker 1: the field. And obviously we're we're exciting him back out there,

484
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Speaker 1: not just yet, but we'll we'll work him along appropriately.

485
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Speaker 1: Would he be fullied by Thursday? Fire, We'll see, Kevind.

486
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Speaker 1: You approach these kind of practices leading up to the

487
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Speaker 1: drawing practices is a sort of a build up into those. Um.

488
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a build up. No, I think

489
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Speaker 1: those practices are we know the value in them. But

490
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Speaker 1: also we're still in training camp mode, so we got

491
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Speaker 1: to work, uh independent of those days coming up here. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think those will be a couple of really good

493
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Speaker 1: days for all three sides of the ball to measure

494
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Speaker 1: yourself up against another team, a playoff team. But for now,

495
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Speaker 1: it's really about training camp. Talking about those two days, Kevin,

496
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Speaker 1: you've mentioned and we've heard the players talk about the importance.

497
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Speaker 1: Have you had that conversation almost They like, we want

498
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Speaker 1: to get our work and we want to have those

499
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Speaker 1: really good days. There was a kind of an unspoken part.

500
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Speaker 1: I've talked to a few of the players about it.

501
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Speaker 1: The guys that were here last year kind of know

502
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Speaker 1: the program and how it works, and guys coming from

503
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Speaker 1: different teams. I'm sure a lot of people are doing

504
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Speaker 1: similar programs. But yeah, there's there's great value in it,

505
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Speaker 1: um and we feel like week two is the right

506
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Speaker 1: time to do it. If it called me present will

507
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Speaker 1: play against the Eels, will to show I'm playing. I'm

508
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Speaker 1: not ready to say that just yet, Kevin. Several teams

509
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Speaker 1: are doing two joint practices. The Eagles are one of them.

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Speaker 1: Could you explore that or you've been you're saying like

511
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Speaker 1: last week or next week? Yeah, I feel personally, I

512
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Speaker 1: feel like week two is the best week to do it.

513
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Speaker 1: I think week one you're still in your installation and

514
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Speaker 1: week three week treat as a regular season uh dress

515
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Speaker 1: rehearsal if you will. So, it just felt like we

516
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Speaker 1: feel like week two is the right time to do it, Kevin,

517
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Speaker 1: your strength in the past using the tight ends as much.

518
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Speaker 1: Is there any clarity beyond the top tool, like, do

519
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Speaker 1: you feel like you know what you have in that group?

520
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: I think we have a bunch of good players in there.

521
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's clarity per se of of

522
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Speaker 1: the depth chart, but I think those type of things

523
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Speaker 1: will play themselves out over the next few weeks. Kevin,

524
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Speaker 1: it looked like Jacobe had a pretty sharp day yesterday

525
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Speaker 1: just from our advantage point. Obviously, the NFL is pushing

526
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Speaker 1: for a tougher suspension to sign if it ends up

527
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Speaker 1: being a lot more than six games. You know, what's

528
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Speaker 1: your confidence level in TWA Kobe is potentially your starter

529
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Speaker 1: for an entire season, Yeah, Jake, I think he's been

530
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Speaker 1: sharp since April. So I've been very impressed by Jacoby,

531
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Speaker 1: very comfortable with him. I think understand his skill set

532
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Speaker 1: and uh, I think he has a very good understanding

533
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Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do offensively. Let me time

534
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Speaker 1: to stop earlier, and he was saying that, Kevin, I

535
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Speaker 1: mean's he was their time. Neither or not either nick

536
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Speaker 1: Job nor Green have reached our potential. Yeah, but he

537
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Speaker 1: and then he thought about also getting seventy eight seven,

538
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Speaker 1: eight to eighty offensive plays a game. Is that well,

539
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Speaker 1: we'll see. I do think he's right that those have

540
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Speaker 1: those two haven't reached our potential. I hope none of

541
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Speaker 1: us have reached our potential, but two really good football

542
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Speaker 1: players talked about about it a lot, uh and we

543
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Speaker 1: think we think we have a good plan for both

544
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Speaker 1: of those guys to impact the games because that's ultimately

545
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Speaker 1: what they do. It's paid with Korem just you know,

546
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Speaker 1: letting the Walkers set up at center. Is he is

547
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Speaker 1: he leaven yards out there by just being maybe two

548
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Speaker 1: of the rest of the times. I think Stump, as

549
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Speaker 1: you know, challenges our guys, wants them to be their best.

550
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Speaker 1: So it probably speaks to Stump is gonna give every

551
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Speaker 1: player something they can work on each year and push them.

552
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if you're a you know, a

553
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Speaker 1: six year pro, if a rookie, Stump is gonna push you.

554
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Speaker 1: So having said that Kareem is a very good football player,

555
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Speaker 1: has been very productive for us, but we do want

556
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Speaker 1: to make sure that he has the mindset that he

557
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Speaker 1: has to improve. He also mentioned trying to get Megan

558
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Speaker 1: Koream together on the field. I know we talked about

559
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Speaker 1: this much, but our disappointing I guess it wasn't that

560
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Speaker 1: you could do it more Lass, just because the guys

561
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Speaker 1: weren't healthy an, Yeah, it's it's a little bit of

562
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Speaker 1: a balance. Obviously, you gotta have both guys healthy, and

563
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Speaker 1: then you want to make sure that you're maximizing both

564
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Speaker 1: of them. Uh. And there will be times where we're

565
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Speaker 1: able to do that, and there's times where we want

566
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Speaker 1: one guy to be out there and one guy to

567
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Speaker 1: be resting and to be fresh for when it's their turn.

568
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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of different ways to do it.

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Speaker 1: But first things first is having both guys available. And

570
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Speaker 1: I know we always asked me about will be direct

571
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Speaker 1: going back and forth between the receivers and the running back.

572
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Speaker 1: Stump talked a little bit about it today, but just

573
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Speaker 1: how have you seen him kind of go between those

574
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Speaker 1: those two words. Yeah, he's done a very nice job

575
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Speaker 1: of it. And that's part of his value to this

576
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: football team is he can play receiver for us. He

577
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: can play running back for us. He's done both in games. Uh,

578
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Speaker 1: he's it's done it in practice where he's with the

579
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Speaker 1: running backs and individual practicing as wide receiver. So I

580
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Speaker 1: just think there's inherent value and having that player, uh

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Speaker 1: who's able to do both, because number one, it helps

582
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Speaker 1: you from a depth standpoint, but number two, it helps

583
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Speaker 1: you from the defense having to treat him either as

584
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Speaker 1: a running back or as a wide receiver, and and

585
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: if they do one or the other, you can hopefully

586
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Speaker 1: have an attack based on their plan. Kevin, We've asked

587
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: you this about Bill, but it's stop. He's a guy

588
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: that you kept after you took this job. How important

589
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: has it been to have him in the buildings last

590
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Speaker 1: three years? Yeah, you know, I really value Stump's opinion,

591
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Speaker 1: value his ability to coach. He's he played this game

592
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Speaker 1: at the NFL level, He's been a head coach in college,

593
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: he's been a position head coach. So I just think

594
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Speaker 1: he brings a lot of wisdom to our staff and

595
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: toughness to our team. Kevin, we talked to Nick Sirianni

596
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Speaker 1: this week about structuring it or is this some months ago?

597
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, months ago? Yeah, you know, you have the

598
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: general framework. Nick's done this with a bunch of teams

599
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. They may have done

600
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Speaker 1: even last week. So we have a general framework, and

601
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Speaker 1: then we'll we have touched based with the coordinators, enough

602
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: touch based with Nick, and then we'll finalize exactly what

603
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Speaker 1: we wanted to look like. Starters out of the game too,

604
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: you think after these two days, I believe that's their plan. Yes,

605
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Speaker 1: do you have any older Eagles gear for your youth?

606
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Nothing that fits? Uh? No? Yeah, always. I know a

607
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: lot of people in that organization from coach's staff, so

608
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Speaker 1: excited to see all those guys. Who was your favorite

609
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Eagles player? Reggie White, the minister of defense. It's an

610
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: easy one. Yes, first jersey, I don't still have it.

611
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Speaker 1: It was a white T shirt with marker written. That's true. Good, Okay,

612
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Speaker 1: thanks guys, appreciated. There's Coach Stefanski at the podium. Uh.

613
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Speaker 1: Several things noteworthy there. Give a the um as we

614
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Speaker 1: mentioned at the top of the show, Denzil a Ward

615
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Speaker 1: activated off the pub but kind of taking off obviously

616
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Speaker 1: a cautious approach to him as he you know, gets

617
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Speaker 1: back into the mix on on Thursday or Friday. So

618
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Speaker 1: that's certainly of note. Uh. The The other thing they

619
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Speaker 1: jumped out, of course, was you know, nothing on Watson

620
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Speaker 1: if he'll play this weekend or not. He were clearly

621
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Speaker 1: in a wait and see pattern on that. Yeah. I mean,

622
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Speaker 1: until they tell you you can't, you might as well.

623
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Speaker 1: I am with some reps. I agree with you because

624
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Speaker 1: I mean, he needs to he needs to throw the

625
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Speaker 1: ball in game situations, you know. I so I agree

626
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Speaker 1: with you on that. Um. And then the other one,

627
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Speaker 1: which was I think probably the real headliner this thing,

628
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Speaker 1: was the Miles Miles excused again for personal reasons. UM.

629
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Speaker 1: And and so that's you know, I'm not sure when

630
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Speaker 1: he'll be bad, not sure when he'll be back. It's

631
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Speaker 1: a couple. That's a new little twist in this. Yeah, yeah,

632
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Speaker 1: it is. So those are the things that jump out

633
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Speaker 1: to me. Um. As you see, obviously you could hear

634
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Speaker 1: there as the as the interview is going on with coaches,

635
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Speaker 1: a bunch of kids here greeting the players as they

636
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Speaker 1: matriculate out onto the field. Um, several guys out there

637
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Speaker 1: yet pretty early though in terms of of guys starting

638
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Speaker 1: to get out on the field. Will begin this thing

639
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Speaker 1: in earnest around two o'clock. So Z will join us

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Speaker 1: on the other side of this, on the other side

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Speaker 1: of this quick time out. We'll go over some of

642
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Speaker 1: these things with him. Also, want to run back. You know,

643
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: how much distraction can you take? I want to run

644
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: that by him as well. You listen to Clevelandrod's Daily

645
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Speaker 1: on fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily sp in Cleveland

646
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Speaker 1: Elks Lawyer's Serious Century. He's called one in under elk

647
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Speaker 1: Ohio for a free case or you Elkin. Elk is

648
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Speaker 1: a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns as weird joined

649
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Speaker 1: now by doctor z en route to Canton. A couple

650
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: of things there in the Stefanski interview that there's one

651
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: thing I mentioned previously. I want to run by you,

652
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: my friend, but let's start with the Miles news excuse

653
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: from his second practice for personal reasons and not sure

654
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: when he'll be back. Do you uh that that's certainly

655
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: noteworthy when the best player on your team is is

656
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna miss a couple of days and we're not exactly

657
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: sure why. Yeah, that certainly caught my attention. And obviously,

658
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: you know, you just hope that everything's okay with Miles, right,

659
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean that typically a personal reasons, you know, that's

660
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: his business, and and I hope that everything's okay with

661
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: him and his family and that he gets back here soon.

662
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: The good news is we are well away from the

663
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Speaker 1: part of the season and we are all very well

664
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: aware of what Miles Garrett can do. But yeah, that's

665
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: certainly was something that you're that he said, Okay, I

666
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: hope everything's okay and and you'll be able to get

667
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: back here soon. Yeah, And I think you know, it's

668
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: similar to I don't know that we have we don't

669
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Speaker 1: know anything about. It still means personal, so you leave

670
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: it at that, but you it also allows for all

671
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: of the questioning and stuff and just like the Brady

672
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: thing down in Tampa, like, well wait, how long, what's

673
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: going on? Like it just lends itself to more more

674
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: questioning a little bit to it. So that was that

675
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Speaker 1: was noteworthy to be We mentioned this off the top.

676
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward activated off the pup. But we'll see how

677
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Speaker 1: things go for Thursday Friday. As I mentioned, to give

678
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Speaker 1: it like you'd be as as cautious as possible with

679
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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. There is no rush to see him run

680
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: around out here against this group of receivers. You need

681
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: him week one, no doubt. And as we saw, you know,

682
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Speaker 1: on NFL Networks Topple under Players, he comes in at

683
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Speaker 1: number eighty seven on the list for the first time,

684
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Speaker 1: got the big contract in the off season that made him,

685
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Speaker 1: for a brief period of time, the highest faith corner

686
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, exactly who is you love

687
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: to be able to get him some work against a J.

688
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Brown and Devonte Smith. I think that would be a

689
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to get to see. But at the same time,

690
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: be judicious with him. Let's not forget Jack Conklin has

691
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: been off the pup for a while now and we

692
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: haven't seen him do anything in a team set yet.

693
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: So when you have guys of that caliber, you bring

694
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: them back, you're gonna make a good plan. Be judicious

695
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: with it because what really matters is not hey, can

696
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: you participate in the joint practice. What matters is hey,

697
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Speaker 1: is he ready to go Week one in Charlotte against

698
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, that's absolutely it on that And

699
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: of course nothing to the from a Newsworthy standpoint on

700
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: the Wet Watson side of things in terms, but nobody

701
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: knows anything on that. You're at the at the will

702
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Which does get us back to something

703
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Gibby and I were talking about, um when you when

704
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Speaker 1: you got got en route to your vehicle in that

705
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: that one segment before Coach Stefanski and I tweeted this

706
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Speaker 1: on Friday, Buddy and I don't it's not men as

707
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Speaker 1: a shot, because I don't know how else you could

708
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Speaker 1: say it. It felt like on Friday was a distracted

709
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: uh performance. It felt distracted to me, um, And I

710
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: think that how could it not be right? How could

711
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: it not be But we can sit here and say,

712
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, one foot in front of the other, and

713
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: you can come out here and you can say and

714
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Jake said this, and I said it, and you say it.

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Speaker 1: You come out here and you go, Boy, doesn't seem

716
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: like the is any there's nothing wrong, Like everybody's out here.

717
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: De Sean was taking all the ones, all of this.

718
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: But these guys are human, they're human, they read and

719
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: by the way, they're also asked about it constantly, like

720
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Speaker 1: I just don't know how. I don't know how you

721
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: could not be And I do think that there we

722
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: we are long past the point of resolution, needing to

723
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Speaker 1: be on this one way or another so that the

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Speaker 1: people that are going to be on this football team

725
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: for the full season or for a vast majority of

726
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: it know what they're getting into. Because I think that

727
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: it kind of played out a little bit on Friday night.

728
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, and I think that's one of the

729
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: things that's so unfair about this. This needs to be

730
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Speaker 1: resolved by the NFL, and it's been any over. Not

731
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: only Deshaun Watson said, but this football team's head and

732
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: this organization and these fans in this city, and they

733
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: need to go ahead and make whatever decision it is

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Speaker 1: that they're going to make. It was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: an expedited decision, and here we are, you know, ten

736
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Speaker 1: days later, and still nothing. So yeah, I think that

737
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: you're right. I think it was tough. Look, there were

738
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Speaker 1: booth there and we heard Joel Mattonio say yesterday it's

739
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to be even more Cleveland against the world

740
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: and and that's all fine, but Deshaun Watson and he admitted,

741
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, look, I've got to be a better person.

742
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: And I think that interview for him prior to the

743
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: game was probably a big distraction because you're thinking about, Okay,

744
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: here's the first time I'm I'm apologizing, which I have

745
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: not done before. How is this going to be received?

746
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Speaker 1: What does this mean? And I'm sure that was weighing

747
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: heavily on it. You know. The thing that's been amazing

748
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: about training campus that you, for the most part, would

749
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: not have known other than the day when the news

750
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: came down at the NFL with appeal when he found

751
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: out on the field, and you got to see his

752
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: emotional reaction to that. Other than that, you wouldn't know

753
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: anything was going on. And it's not surprising to me

754
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: he was a little off in that because that was

755
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: I think the pre game a big moment that went

756
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Speaker 1: out at six thirty. Let's not forget pregame shows in

757
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: the preseason are a half hour before kick that goes

758
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: out six thirty, the Browns gets the ball, he's thrown

759
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: a pass. Thirty minutes after that, that interview airs, and

760
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I do think it was a distraction. Look, I've seen

761
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: him make the pass on the first plate every single

762
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Speaker 1: day out here. That is not a pass that he

763
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: typically would miss. In this case, he did miss it,

764
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Speaker 1: and then you got a couple of drops and you know,

765
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: make Harris injury, and all of a sudden it was

766
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: kind of like, whatever could go wrong is going wrong

767
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Dour in his fumbles. But I do think that that

768
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: was somewhat of a distraction. It's got away and then

769
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: he still is, at the end of the day, a

770
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Speaker 1: human being in his mid twenties. Yeah, and yeah, everybody's

771
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: got an opinion about you some of them and many

772
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: of them not good. That is got to be very

773
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Speaker 1: hard for anybody to deal with. And I think that, Yeah,

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00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: you did see some of that with the Sean and

775
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: I did think he settled down though after that because

776
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: the passes following were on target. It just unfortunately, you know,

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: he had a drop and and and what not with

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwort. Yeah. I think it's it's fully um you

779
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: fully expect. I mean, he hasn't played a lot of football.

780
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: And Gibby was talking about this right before you hopped on,

781
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: like you know that he would play him on Sunday

782
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: if he's eligible because and I would too, I would

783
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: play with all of them. Like, I think he needs

784
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: to throw the football in front of fans. He hasn't

785
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: done it since the you know, the end of the

786
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: twenty when he season, um and up until Friday night.

787
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: So I think he needs all of that. The other

788
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: thing that um that I think bears watching for him,

789
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and I you know, we see his greatness out here

790
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: in the practice when we when we watched the practices,

791
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: it's obvious it's on display. Um. But the other thing

792
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: about it is is the mental fatigue that comes with this,

793
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: and and the reality is is that this is a

794
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: guy who was one of the most popular college football

795
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: players of all time. He was beloved at Clemson, absolutely beloved.

796
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: He was beloved by most in his early UH Houston

797
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Speaker 1: Texas career. There wasn't anybody that didn't say anything bad

798
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Speaker 1: about him, and now loved him on and off the field.

799
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Speaker 1: Incredible charity, philanthropic, all of that. And now all of

800
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, instead of people looking at you in awe,

801
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: people looking at you in a different way. And we

802
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: saw this with Tiger Woods when he came back from

803
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Speaker 1: golf after after what happened on Thanksgiving weekend, where it

804
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: was the mental part of it that had him fried.

805
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't the physical, it was the mental. It took

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Speaker 1: him a long time to kind of get over that

807
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: how people were viewing him. And that's something with de

808
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Shaun's have to work through too. Look at Lebron James

809
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the first year he go down to Miami. They should

810
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: have beaten Dallas, they were a better team, but he

811
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: had you know, you could tell that it was wearing

812
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: on him. And then when you can kind of embrace

813
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: the heel for a little bit, all of a sudden

814
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: you become the good guy again. And so it's a

815
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: weird thing and it's really psychology ripped right from the

816
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: pages of professional wrestling. But that just kind of is

817
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: what it is like. You've got to almost be able

818
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: to embrace that in you that is fuel, and then

819
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: when you do, you become who you were once before

820
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: and people like you again. And that's even for Tiger,

821
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: that happened right. Tiger went from being then he was

822
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: the underdog, you know, and then people loved him again.

823
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: And so it will happen for DeShawn. It does take time,

824
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: and I do think it is taxing. I think it's

825
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: take in the whole team again, this is an unfair

826
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: situation that the Cleveland Browns are being put in. Nobody

827
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: is going to cry for the Cleveland Browns because of

828
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: course they made the move to acquire DeShawn Watson at

829
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Speaker 1: the same time. If the NFL was going to do

830
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: this or this is the way they they were going

831
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: to handle it, they just shouldn't let anybody trade former. Frankly,

832
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: they should have resolved it last year and they did not.

833
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: This is this, This is the state of affairs periods

834
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns to deal looking for to Shaun,

835
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: but it obviously is not easy. I do think it

836
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: will get easier with time. But look, I'd love to

837
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: see him on Sunday, if for no other reason, then

838
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: get him in there, let him experience some success again,

839
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: and then get out. I don't think you want the

840
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: last memory of him because if he's coming in late

841
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: in the season and you're in the mix, and I

842
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: do think the Browns will be where you need him

843
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: to come in and play well to push you into

844
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you want him to at least remember something

845
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: very positive from the last time he played football. Now,

846
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: his memories of January third, he had a great game.

847
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: That was the last time he played in the NFL.

848
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: But with this Brown seeing this uniform get in front

849
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: of our home fans, I think it could be a

850
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: positive at least see him for a little bit have

851
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: some success where you turn it over to Josh Dobs.

852
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: You know, Paul, there's a lot of this stuff in

853
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: this acquisition of Watson that was in the brochure. The

854
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: way that this has been adjudicated was not nobody had this.

855
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: Nobody had that this would you'd still be dealing with

856
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: this now not. And this could have been any one

857
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: number of the four teams at the end, could have

858
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: been any number the thirteen teams that inquired this. They

859
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: would all be in this situation. If it wasn't us

860
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: in this situation, would be Atlanta, would be the Saints,

861
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: would be Carolina, and you'd all be saying the same thing.

862
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: This was not how we were led to believe this

863
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: thing would go. I'm not talking about the length. I'm

864
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: talking about the way that this has played out. Nobody

865
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: had this so that part wasn't in the brochure. Everything

866
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: else was, lots of it was, but this part hasn't been.

867
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: And I think you know that goes back to my

868
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: distracted conversation with this team. You know, it's interesting, like

869
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: even Joel Betonio, who's the best guy ever, like he

870
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: took some heat naturally from his for his Cleveland against

871
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: the World thing that he said on Sunday. Well, what

872
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: he's trying to say is is that inside this room,

873
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: we're worried about us, and if it has to be

874
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: us against the world, fine, it'll be us against the world.

875
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: Will handle that. That's something that we got to get

876
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: used to. That's what he's saying, and even that gets

877
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: parsed over like that, it's just so much to put

878
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: on a team. And the longer this hangs over, the

879
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: more that it's omnipresent. If if if this was if

880
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: you either accept Suel Robinson, or if the timeline of

881
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: this was different, if he's suspended of the year and

882
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: you know about it in June or July, fine, it's done,

883
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: it's over. We're we're we've we played a preseason game,

884
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: for god's sakes. It's the second week of the preseason now,

885
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: and we're still having this to deal with this, and

886
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: that's not right, and that wasn't in the brochure. It

887
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: was not And in fact, i'll take you one step.

888
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's the end of training camp, the parts that open

889
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: to the public, training camp, like the Browns have concluded

890
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: training camp, and yet this still is outstanding as we

891
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: talk right now. No, this was not in the brochure

892
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: for anybody. And I think that that's the part that

893
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: has been the most frustrating. And I'm surprised Joe Matonio

894
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: said to keep for that. What he's saying is exactly right. Look,

895
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: we have to rally. We all still have a job

896
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: to do. If people want to come and they want

897
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: to boo us, that's they're prerogative. But we're going to

898
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: kind of galvanize our elves, unify ourselves, and go out

899
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: there and try to accomplish what we set out to

900
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: accomplish at the beginning of this year, which is to

901
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: win as many football games as possible and play in

902
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: the preseason with a chance to win the Super Bowl.

903
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: That's the goal for the Cleveland Browns. And that's not

904
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: changing due to this kind of hanging over this football team.

905
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: And no, this was not in the brochure. And and

906
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: again it's not fair. And you wonder is the NFL

907
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: punishing the Browns for who knows what reasons? The contract

908
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: you've heard people talk about that is it for because

909
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: they actually were the ones who traded for me. Well,

910
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: if you don't want somebody to trade for, you shouldn't

911
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: let him be traded, right, And again, expect that all

912
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: of this happened while he was the Houston Texans. All

913
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: of this happened with some level of knowledge of the

914
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Houston Texans who were sued and settled thirty suits themselves.

915
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: And yet they're not dealing with anything, No, nothing, there's

916
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: nothing and there's no outcry for that. It's it's brutal.

917
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: There's a million ways to handle it, and it it

918
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: never it never had to be like this. It just didn't.

919
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: And and so you know, as we make the transition

920
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: Kevin's Fansky made it on Sunday to this being Jacoby

921
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: Brissette's team, um, you know, and getting him ready, Like

922
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: that's something you talked to Browns fans, you and I,

923
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: you and Jim and Jeron on the on the broadcast,

924
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: like everyone can get behind the reality of this, right,

925
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: we can all get behind and you can win a

926
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: lot of games with Jacoby Brissette, um, and and you can.

927
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: You're just gonna be playing a different way. But we've

928
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: got to be able to prepare for that different way.

929
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: And the longer that this hangs over this, the the

930
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: harder that that is. So to me, like that's that's

931
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: that's where this team is now. I'm interested to see,

932
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: like how he breaks it up, how did he How

933
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: did coach Zefansky break up the reps yesterday Bell with

934
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: with Sean and Jacoby. Jacoby was the starter. Jacoby took

935
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: the first four reps with the starters Deshaun Watson then

936
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: took the next two reps or the next four reps

937
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: with the second team, although the offensive line stayed with

938
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: him for the first one. They basically just flipplot exactly

939
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Jacoby inverted he's a starter. Yeah,

940
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: and he's a starter. And now you've got you know,

941
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Deshan has the backup and Josh Dobbs remains a third quarterback.

942
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: So there you go. So that that's that's now how

943
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: you'll that will be the plan going forward and and

944
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: as you await the NFL portion of that, so that

945
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: that's that was the thing that's been tricky about all

946
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: of this is because there there are these things to

947
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: be excited about. It's just that the start of this

948
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: thing on Friday night was, as as you and Jim

949
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: said on the broadcast, or as you said on the broadcast,

950
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong did uh. And then this

951
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: this spectrum of the Watson decision hangs over you. So uh,

952
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: that's just kind of where it is on this point,

953
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: and you just hope that there's some resolution to it. Um.

954
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: All right, you got an event down in in Canton today,

955
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: correct her, and you're that took forward to which is

956
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: very very nice. Um, My man Kevin will take care

957
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of you down there. Um and then just think a

958
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: year from now, we'll be down there with the half.

959
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: That's right, baby, that's I'm I'm considering. It's like some

960
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: advanced scouting last year, you know with Edre and James,

961
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: we did a little scouting. Now I'm gonna do some

962
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: scouting today and then next year it will be full on,

963
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: full steam ahead with the half. The Um. I'll tell you,

964
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: if they have that they got, you're gonna be shocked

965
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: at how much that they've done in a year. Um.

966
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Like if that water parks in play, that's that that

967
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: could be a win for everybody. I mean, nobody loves

968
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: the water park. Brother, don't never forget, but he loves it. Uh.

969
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Safe travels to you and my friend. Uh and we'll

970
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow on the program. All right.

971
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: Think all right, that's our buddy, Nathan's Gura en route

972
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: to Canton for an event down there. Uh. The team

973
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: out here doing some special teams. The full team is

974
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: out here among those but Deshaun Watson, as I mentioned,

975
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: though no Miles Garrett so out for personal reasons excused

976
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: excused but out for personal reasons, and you you just

977
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: hope that that that everything is okay and good with Miles.

978
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: Denzel Award is back. This is the first time I've

979
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: seen him in a helmet in since minicamp Um. So

980
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: he's in. He's on the side, just kind of doing

981
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: some really rudimentary movement and stuff, and you'll be extra

982
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: cautious with him by the time he gets going. And

983
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: I know yesterday you know Newsome set out he's battling

984
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hamstring. He got hurt the

985
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: day that Kim Grant went out, correct, it was kind

986
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: of lost in the shuffle of everything, but he came

987
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: up a little hobbled and they held him out the

988
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: rest of practice that day. And really we have not

989
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: seen him since. I don't need to both of them. Yeah,

990
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Just get ready for Carolina. Yeah, you see

991
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: Jedevan looks like it's gonna be a light day for

992
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: him too. He's in gear, but looking like a light day.

993
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: I see Greg Newsom over there, he's got the Yeah,

994
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: he's got the floppy hat on, so it looks he's

995
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: not even in pants. So he's going. He's going low

996
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: key today as well. Looks like Jacob Phillips is going

997
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: to be kind of low key today working out over here.

998
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: Was battling a little bit. I think, uh, I think

999
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: it was a hamstring. I don't want to miss speak

1000
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: on that. But this is the dog days, man, you know,

1001
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: the only differences it doesn't feel like summer, you know,

1002
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: with the being in the in the seventies, you know,

1003
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: it feels pretty nice. So it's but if these are

1004
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: these are the dog days of camp? Is this week

1005
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: just today and tomorrow and then that's it for camp.

1006
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: So that gives you kind of an idea of who's

1007
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: in and who appears to be out today. Um, in

1008
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: respect to camp, is at j Okay over there getting

1009
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: stretched as well as he down there with Denzel. It's

1010
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: j Oka new some greedy Denzel. We'll coming over here

1011
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: in front of us. That'll be your That'll be your

1012
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: off day, whether it's veterans off day and whether it's

1013
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: uh kind of injury tweaking. Yeah. I mean again, like

1014
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get good work in with Philly on Thursday

1015
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: and Friday. You've got the game on Sunday, and then

1016
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: this is it for camp. So you get today tomorrow

1017
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: and then that's it. Yeah, And I would think today

1018
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a pretty heavy day. Well, it

1019
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: looks like we're all in full gear, I mean from

1020
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, I think today is gonna be your

1021
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: heavy day. Maybe you go a little bit lighter tomorrow,

1022
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: off day on Wednesday, and then you're getting some serious

1023
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: work in Thursday. In front. Yeah, Greig Newsome walking over here, uh,

1024
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: in a bucket hat and miming some basketball moves. It

1025
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: looks like he's he's he may have some moves. Oh,

1026
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I think he can play it that. Yeah, it looks

1027
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: like he can play a little bit. Yeah, a little cross,

1028
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: a little step through. I like the look at that.

1029
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: We'll keep you updated on things out here in Bury

1030
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. Gerge Cherry said to

1031
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: join us next. Jim Donovan will join us in this

1032
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: hour as well. You listen to clean Them roun Ley

1033
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: on a fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily on FIFESPN Cleveland.

1034
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: All right, second hour here Cleveland Browns. Dailey from the

1035
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: c c mc bow Bishop and now the great Rod

1036
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Cherry joining me here. Good to see you, buddy. I

1037
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: mentioned this disease. I just thought you guys crushed it.

1038
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate I thought you crushed it. I was watched the

1039
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: first quarter on TV and then went out and threw

1040
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: it to the boys. They were excited, so we went

1041
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: out and threw it around a little bit. So I

1042
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: was listening to you guys on my phone on the app.

1043
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: Awesome and just really natural. All the way across the board.

1044
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Jet fun had a great time, man, And it was

1045
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: that the weird part about the bow was getting accustomed

1046
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: to the crowd noise and speaking in the crowd noise

1047
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: was so manufactured. On top of that, they were blowing

1048
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: it in. I'm like, where is this coming from? Because

1049
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: it's only maybe twenty people at this game. They were

1050
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: blowing in crowd noise, funny loud, and then the music

1051
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: at the same time. It's like every time you go

1052
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: to speak, yeah, and you could just feel it going

1053
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: through your body. But it was a heck of an experience, man,

1054
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: being back on the sideline. And I shared this with

1055
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: some other people too, so and we just were talking

1056
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: about this. So you covered the super Bowl in Jacksonville.

1057
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: The last time BO that I had shoulder pads, helmets

1058
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: a helmet on was on that football field and the

1059
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Last time I ever played a football game

1060
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: that was your last game was the Super Bowl against

1061
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles. That was my last game. Come on, I didn't. Yeah,

1062
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: and I thought I had more years than me. So

1063
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: after the game, I wanted to get a physical. After

1064
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they give you a post game physical, and

1065
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: a guy who's a doctor goes up because I had

1066
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: some issues of my achilles tenant. He rubs it and says,

1067
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: you have a parsley torn achilles tenm if I look

1068
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: at the X ray or anything like that, and that

1069
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: was a kiss of death for me, and turned out

1070
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I just had real bad tendonitis. Oh come on, that's unbelievable. Yeah.

1071
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: So we were off air and we were talking about

1072
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: the fact that that's you know, that that is that

1073
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: there's an NFL team there. It's crazy, especially when you're

1074
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: where you guys were, like downtown, Like you look around

1075
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: and you go, what I mean, it's like Toledo, Like

1076
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense that that's right. I mean, that's anc.

1077
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how much bigger is it? Like the downtown?

1078
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, expensive, but literally every parking lot's empty, every

1079
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: parking garage is empty. That's right there. There's literally nothing

1080
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: going on. I mean we're looking out my window, which

1081
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: we converted my room into a radio studio. I believe

1082
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: it did four or five shows over two days out

1083
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: of my room, and it literally we're looking outside like

1084
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: there's nothing. There's there's some traffic. I don't know where

1085
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: they were going. Marcos, this guy found himself some nice

1086
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: little food joints. Did you go to the water I

1087
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: did not. We the Riverwalk piece they shut down and

1088
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: they pretty much of demolishing it because it draw out

1089
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: too many types who that I don't want downtown. That's

1090
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: the best way I can describe it. But Sam Marcos,

1091
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I went over there because spot that. J and I

1092
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: went to the rest of the guys, part of the

1093
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: broadcasting team, radio broadcasting team. We went to this what

1094
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: was it called again? Cows uh, the cow post, some

1095
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: type of post, you know how we found it. Looking

1096
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: out my window, I'm like, there's a rooftop bar. I'm like,

1097
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where that is. We're going there tonight,

1098
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: so go there. We're talking to the bartender and the

1099
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: bartender tells us, yes, you got tried in the Maple

1100
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: Street Biscuit Company Okay, tell me more about it, biscuits.

1101
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: It was so I went to the following morning and

1102
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: I am here to tell you and I brought give

1103
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: something back too, so he can testify to this. It

1104
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: was incredible, absolutely incredible. I mean, if they opened a

1105
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: franchise around here, because it's it's there's plenty of them

1106
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: down there in Florida, I think they'll do very well,

1107
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: especially up here because it's comfort food for breakfast. It's

1108
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: a home run. Yeah, well that sounds pretty good what

1109
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: we uh So, so, while that was pretty good the

1110
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: start to this game, and Nathan alluded to it on

1111
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and we've talked about it for the first hour,

1112
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong did um? You know? You

1113
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: had uh you know, I think a very distracted performance.

1114
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: And rightfully so, there's a lot going on around this

1115
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: football team, obviously that you're waiting on resolution for. But

1116
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: as it went along, there were some glimmer of bright

1117
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: spots from field level. What jumped out to you, positively,

1118
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: let's start there with the glasses a full approach. Well,

1119
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: what jumped out for me is the young players slash

1120
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: rookies look like they got promised because that's one of

1121
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: the key things. If you're gonna have a football team

1122
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: that has a lot of talent, and you've paid a

1123
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys money already, that's a part of your

1124
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: core you have to hit in the latter part of

1125
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: the draft. And yes, you're gonna have a first and

1126
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: second round guy who's gonna be under contract for a

1127
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: decent amount of money. But if you're finding your third

1128
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: and beyond guys and undrafted free agents are coming in

1129
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: here and contributing and showing signs of promise, that is

1130
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. So what I've seen out of Ford,

1131
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: what I saw out of Thomas, and then you look

1132
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: at Emmerson, what he was able to do that was phenomenal.

1133
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure there's some other guys whose name

1134
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm not calling, who contributed as well, who just brought

1135
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: in his free agents, who played a part and just

1136
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: really impair on He had a couple of moments where

1137
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: he was pushing the pocket and causing it to collapse,

1138
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: though he didn't get a sack or anything like that,

1139
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: but he was having moments of great penetration. If you

1140
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: can get that from your defensive tackle, because that's gonna

1141
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: be one of the primary concerns boat is that to

1142
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: take place. So I saw a youth movement last night,

1143
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: excuse me, Friday night, and I was very, very very

1144
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: impressed by what I saw. Yeah, I think so too.

1145
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think everything if you you know, we

1146
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: talked about it, are you guys talking about on the

1147
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: next level? Like Emerson has jumped out all camps? Jerome

1148
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Forward has jumped out all camp Like you know, these

1149
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: guys you come out, they all of a sudden, they're

1150
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: out in on a big stage and they're ready to go.

1151
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: Like the embarrassment of Riches in this running back room

1152
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: is something else. And Gerard and I'm gonna this is

1153
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna dovetail into another point. It might be too much.

1154
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: And and when I look at like what could be

1155
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: a lack of depth and talent receiver, Maybe there's a

1156
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: solution there somewhere, because I don't know that you need

1157
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: those four backs. It's too much. Yeah, it could be

1158
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: a situation where you just simply wasting talent because everyone

1159
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: can't touch the ball, everyone can't be on the field.

1160
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't think we're gonna go

1161
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: to a wishbone offense or power I ay times soon

1162
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: were you take a receiver's and tight ends off the

1163
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: football field incorporate running backs. But that's how talented we are.

1164
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I got a sense and

1165
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: feel it early on, depending on what takes place with

1166
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: the Shawn's decision and what whether or not he's available

1167
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: sooner rather sooner rather than later. They we're gonna run

1168
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: the football a lot. But at the same time, two

1169
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: guys being in the rotation is a lot right there.

1170
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: Just to get a sense of feeling, you throw throw

1171
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: three or four guys in there. I think that's too

1172
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: much because someone's at some point they get cold and

1173
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: out of rhythm and won't be in sync with the

1174
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: offensive line in the floor of the game. And that's

1175
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: really what you saw in the first quarter in that

1176
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville played a preseason game. They had an idea what

1177
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the tempo felt like, looks like it smells like. We

1178
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: didn't have that. And then you see the situation with Deshan.

1179
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: You could feel the adrilling leaving his body as he

1180
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: passed the ball. I mean, so that errand throw was

1181
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: more due to a drilling because you can't it's like

1182
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: being in the super Bowl. You don't feel your legs.

1183
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: You don't feel your body when you step out on

1184
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: that football field until you get hit. And I'm pretty

1185
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: sure consider and what he's gone through and what he's facing,

1186
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: that he probably felt like that when he touched the

1187
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: football field. Would you play him on Friday if there's

1188
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: no or on Sunday rather if there's no ruling, Yeah,

1189
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: because it sounds like, you know, obviously he's the majority

1190
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: of the one reps are gonna go to Brissette from

1191
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: here on out. Percent will get the majority of the

1192
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: ones against filling and the joint practices. If Watson is

1193
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: going to play at some point this season, then I

1194
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: would want him getting every game repent that I could.

1195
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to get hurt, obviously, but

1196
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I think he's smart enough to avoid that, uh, you know,

1197
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: having played judiciously. But but at the same time, like, um,

1198
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since he played. I mean,

1199
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: it's just you need to get out there with the

1200
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: bright lights a little bit and you like just for

1201
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: your sense of confidence to have a positive moment with

1202
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: you on a football move of your office. At some

1203
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: point you're gonna be the focal point of and take over.

1204
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: There's no question, there's absolutely no question on this. Can

1205
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: you believe that there's not a decision on this from

1206
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: the NFL yet? Actually, actually I can't at this point.

1207
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Is it just because you've played and you know how

1208
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: they operate, Because to me, it just feels like Jim

1209
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Doavandy with us a couple of weeks ago, use the

1210
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: word cruel, like how long this is taking? That allowed

1211
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: that we're allowed this facade of him out here, and

1212
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: it's like you appointed the the guy doing the appeal.

1213
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: If you wanted to be a year, just make it

1214
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: a year and everyone can move on. It's a combination

1215
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: of control mechanism to really reinforce and reiterate to the

1216
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: players and NFL Players Association who's the boss, and at

1217
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: the same time let the shan know that as well,

1218
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: and then also a combination of public perspective because if

1219
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: you rush on a decision even though we know what

1220
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 1: it is, on one hand, you're gonna make the camp

1221
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: of this is not fair. I feel like, hey, we

1222
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: took our time and deliberating on this deal, and if

1223
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: you rush to it, for the side in which you

1224
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: do give them what they want, which is a year

1225
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: or beyond they'll be okay with it at this point.

1226
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: But had they rushed and said something, it would have

1227
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: been a situation of okay, well, if it's not what

1228
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: we want, then that's a bad move. So that's stuck

1229
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: in that spot. But I think ultimately it's a flexing

1230
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: of the muscles to say that, hey, we are in control. Yeah,

1231
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: there's no question, and now it's you know, you're just

1232
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: hit their whims a little bit as you wait these

1233
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: things out. Um, we have um Denzel Ward activated off

1234
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: the pub list today, which is good to see the

1235
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: beautiful man he is. Yeah, he's something else. But the

1236
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: other thing about Denzel coming back is you can afford

1237
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: to be really patient here. Derives like I don't need

1238
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: to see him stress himself. Now you can see him

1239
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: in September, right, And I'm that cornerback that deepensive back

1240
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: room is talk about how load the running backs are,

1241
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: you have the same dynamic taking place in the dB room. Yes,

1242
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: you have a load of talent. So for the guys

1243
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: who may not make this roster, I don't think they'll

1244
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: be unemployee loan because what you see out here is talent.

1245
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: I know, talent, specially defensive backfield when I see it.

1246
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: There are a lot of talented guys out of here

1247
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: making plays and putting and putting a good naming for themselves,

1248
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: and this practice against Philadelphia will only help that cause.

1249
00:59:52,280 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Denzel Newsome, Greedy Emerson, A J. Green. I mean that's

1250
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 1: five dudes right there, and I mean, I mean that's

1251
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of talent in the secondary. It really is.

1252
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: And the same is true at safety. So this is

1253
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: you know that. That's the one thing about this like

1254
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: as you get through this Watson thing, Gern, like, this

1255
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: defense is good enough to keep you in the mix

1256
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: depending on how long this thing all goes right. And

1257
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: then on top of that, if you feel you have

1258
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: confidence in your kicking game and that you're field goal

1259
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: kicker can get the job done, that's only going to

1260
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: help the cause. Because I don't have an issue with

1261
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: the early on until we figure things out with our

1262
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: quarterback position. If it's old school field position, cloud of

1263
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: dust football, I can live with that. The whole key

1264
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: is to win. Yeah, that's it. Remember the Keenom game.

1265
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: Remember against Denver last year Keenom game when dearing Us

1266
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: on Thursday night ran for a hundred forty yards carries

1267
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: you want seventeen to thirteen. It wasn't flashy butt. And

1268
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: guess what I know, it was a four point game

1269
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Speaker 1: or thereabouts. It's not like I ever thought we were

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Speaker 1: gonna lose and it's gonna win. The whole way. It

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Speaker 1: was a very men and you can tell that, you

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: can see to feel that. But I look at the

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01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty niners as my example of what you

1274
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: can do one of these on the auspices of, hey,

1275
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: we don't have to be flashy and air it out.

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: They were a pass away from being in a super Bowl,

1277
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Speaker 1: and they pretty much I think employ what we went

1278
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: more than likely will do, which is run, rely on

1279
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: great defense, utilize our tight ends, do the sala screen action,

1280
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: and just physically beat you up and win football games.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more thing before I

1282
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: let you go, because one thing I've been harpened on

1283
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: here the first couple of weeks of camp I talked

1284
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: about a lot in manicamp, and this was before you

1285
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: know Friday. I don't know if we have everybody we

1286
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: need to have a receiver draw. I don't know if

1287
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: we do well. So is that something that you think

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed further or are you confident and

1289
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Speaker 1: who's there? I would give it a couple more weeks,

1290
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: especially how are they fare against Philadelphia, because I've been

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01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: comment on this throughout the course of training camp that

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01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: the dbs have been dominating our receivers day in and

1293
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: day out. Now, if that same dynamic takes place once

1294
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles come in town, from the practices, from the

1295
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: one on one drills, from a team drills seven on seven,

1296
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: and you get that sense and feel that that's occurring,

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01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: and then you go into the preseason game and guys

1298
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: that you're counting on are dropping passes and not making plays.

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Speaker 1: You have to strongly considered the idea that you need

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: one more go getter or two to get the job done. Yeah,

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: it's something that that's a because of how get Our

1302
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: secondary is a little worried about Shortsy little worried, Yeah,

1303
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: and I gotta get it going. To deal with him

1304
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: is exist. I think he has to rekill like speed.

1305
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: And when you have that type of ability, what takes

1306
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: place normally is instead of just concentrating initially on catching

1307
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: the football, you're at night meditating and dreaming about what

1308
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna do after you get the football. But at

1309
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: this stage, just catch the damn thing this and that's

1310
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: really critical. And and and go and let that stuff

1311
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: figure yourself out as you get more and more comfortable

1312
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: with just catching the balls, because right now, if you

1313
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: get a basic hook what we suhould call button hook

1314
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: back in the day, don't think about spinning out. I mean,

1315
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: think about making plays. But catch the ball for us

1316
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: because I can. I'm pretty certain that. And if you

1317
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: were to ask him, he probably admitted to tell you, Yeah,

1318
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Okay, I'm gonna catch this ball, gonna

1319
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: spin out that the tackle, and I'm gonna take it

1320
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: to the house for eight yards. That's probably what he's thinking.

1321
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: But at this stage, just catch it. And as you

1322
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: get more and more comfortable with it, those things will

1323
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: let itself play out. But if you try to rush

1324
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: the process and you're trying to just do too much

1325
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about too much instead of just initially

1326
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: receiving the football, bad things occur, like dropping it. The

1327
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: funny thing is, is everything that that I'm sure you're

1328
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: spot on in that as you typically are, everything that

1329
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: you're saying that he's thinking about, all of that will

1330
01:03:53,280 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: come naturally right. Once this happened something what I did

1331
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: never caught it. That's it, hey man, great seeing you.

1332
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: Excellent job on Friday. Listen to your brother as always

1333
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: we will go around the league. Coming up next you

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1339
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Speaker 1: individual drills going on out here in bree We've got

1340
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: the safeties here right in front of us, running us.

1341
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: It looks like some cover tight end routes a little bit,

1342
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: just kind of going through some things. Linebackers down on

1343
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 1: the far end of the field working on some pass

1344
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: cover drills and uh coming up, and I'm gonna employe

1345
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: that tonight with the boys, all right, pick up ding

1346
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and then drifting, planning, coming up and hitting the dummy.

1347
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: I can work that end tonight. So I literally scouting

1348
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: these practices. You know, three teams I do well, I'm

1349
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: only all three of them are playing. I'm only intimately

1350
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: involved in two, So I head coach Bootsy and then

1351
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm um, I assist with not black Cobra Beams is

1352
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: in the very capable hands of the c y O

1353
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: Flag League, so he's in good hands there with guys

1354
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: I've coached with before, so he'll be fine. And then

1355
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: we practice the same time as him, so uh, we're

1356
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: out it. I'll tell you what there's I've spent an

1357
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: inordinate amount of time, uh thinking about defensive schemes for

1358
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: ten year old tackle football, and an inordinate amount of

1359
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: time that I spend on it. It's probably not healthy

1360
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: to me. You should, well I have, so I I'm

1361
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna give you one. So as you know, I used

1362
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: to do a I used to a show with Hits

1363
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: a little something. Yeah, yeah, he knows a little bit. Um.

1364
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: So he's he's coaching at uh AT at the Notre

1365
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: Dame now and they open with a school you may

1366
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: have heard of named o highest State. That's gonna be fun.

1367
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: It's not so much for him. I don't think I

1368
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: love him a brother, but not so much for him.

1369
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: Sunday is gonna be a rough day. And luckily it's

1370
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: a holiday weekend. Yeah, so I said, you know, we're

1371
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: playing four to five. So he goes, this is the text.

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Speaker 1: Now it's possible. I sent this to him after I

1373
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: had had a couple. So he goes, okay, so you're Nickel.

1374
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's install a little three match outside leverage band with

1375
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: post safety other safeties down to the tight end. Linebackers

1376
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: the gap, the A gap and B gaps. Set the

1377
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: front to the tight end six three shade five technique.

1378
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Tell your backers one has the half back, the others

1379
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: in the hook area for body presence for the other crossers.

1380
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: So both linebackers play the halfback essentially from depth and

1381
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: less empty. Yeah, that'll sober up. What did you say,

1382
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: come again? I I think you lost me after the

1383
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: first sentence. There you imagine me going out. I want

1384
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: you to come. So this is gonna go. We're like, no,

1385
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: I just think we need to either all of you

1386
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: guys go upfield or or then we have another call

1387
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: where three of you drop like that's kind of where

1388
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: we need. That's that's where we're at. So that was

1389
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: a little technical on that side of things, but it's

1390
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: it's going well. So we have games. Bootsie's debut game

1391
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: is Saturday. Um, young team, We've I've never lost in

1392
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: this flag league. But I'm I'm gonna that's coming because

1393
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: we have a lot of young kids. We had a

1394
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of first graders, so I think Annel is probably

1395
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: coming there. Um and then, uh, has he gotten a

1396
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: little more comfortable he had? No, he didn't. He had

1397
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: a rough tryout, get an incredible first practice he had

1398
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday last week. He was a model citizen, like,

1399
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: just dialed in, focused, paying attention. It was awesome to see.

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01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with him. Um, and how he

1401
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: was going on the current depth chart. Well, he's probably

1402
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna start out defensively, will probably play a little corner um,

1403
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: and then offensively, you know, maybe a little receiver, a

1404
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: little bit of running back, maybe some quarterback, that type

1405
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: of thing. It's pretty much here you go, here, you go. Here,

1406
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: I'm in the huddle like showing him because of their

1407
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: six so exactly. That's that's the way that that goes.

1408
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: But he's grasping at starting. He succeeding. Oh yeah, he's

1409
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: dialed in, he's fired up. My my oldest nephew is

1410
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: in seventh grade and Josh is playing tackle football for

1411
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: the first time. Okay, how's that going? Well, I don't

1412
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: think my sister has slept in two weeks since we

1413
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Speaker 1: started this whole process. Yeah, and they've been practicing from

1414
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: nine to eleven in the morning. Great, get it out

1415
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: of the way before the heat of the day whatever.

1416
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: They're supposed to come here today to practice. Yesterday, they

1417
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: get the phone call, well, school starts a week from now,

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: and they're changing everything. It's now at three o'clock, which

1419
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: means he is out of the training camp practice. He's like, well, no,

1420
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm skipping practice, to which my sister said, I don't

1421
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: think that's happening. Uncle Jason, come in out of the

1422
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: bullpen for the assistant, be the bad guy. I'm fine

1423
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: doing that. You have signed up for something, you need

1424
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: to commit and do it. It's okay, we'll get you.

1425
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: We'll get you out again. Don't worry. It does suck, though,

1426
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: like you have things locked in and then you can't. Yeah,

1427
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: you know that does suck. But my younger nephews like,

1428
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: what did I do to deserve this to be in

1429
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: the hospitality tend eating ice cream? That's right. I was like,

1430
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: it was like a win for me on that one.

1431
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's yeah. The trial was a little testing

1432
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: at first, but then he rallied. Um, so yeah, all

1433
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: the boys are in it. It's beautifuotball is a beautiful thing. Man.

1434
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: It's the one eleven or in the case of this flag,

1435
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: the one eighth that takes everybody to be able to

1436
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: do it. And and so you're learning about teamwork and

1437
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: camaraderie and all of that. And I think as we

1438
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: bring it back to this team, that's the thing that's

1439
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: been hard is like, you know, you need you need

1440
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: something to rally behind, and and like you can rally

1441
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: behind anything. I think Joel what Joel was trying to

1442
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: say on Sunday was, look, please let against the world, Like,

1443
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: no one's gonna like us this year. That's okay, It'll

1444
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: be fine every time. It's fine. We'll deal with it,

1445
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: you know. And by the way, there's gonna be Browns

1446
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: fans everywhere, so it's not gonna be that loud to booing.

1447
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: And then like Baltimore, what's the hardest ticket for a

1448
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Browns fan to get? What's the hardest road game for

1449
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: Browns fans? What's the one place that you see the

1450
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: few was Browns fans probably the Pukers Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean,

1451
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: they might be in the upper deck. It's not that

1452
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: you can't get tickets, but it's it's it's a tough ticket.

1453
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore has been pretty They're pretty welcome me as much

1454
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: as Yeah, I it kills me. But they have a

1455
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: great stadium and it's a great environment. I feel like

1456
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: Washington on New Year's Day. There'll be plenty of good seats.

1457
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah, there's there's gonna be a lot of them.

1458
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of places where I think you could

1459
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: take over. But I was curious what ones you can't

1460
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: take over. And it's the ones that I would think.

1461
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: It's Pittsburgh and it's and it's Baltimore. I'm guessing Sincinnati

1462
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: will be that way. I'll be interested to see what

1463
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Bengal fan shows up. I would assume this would be

1464
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: the year, but they've been good and not sold out

1465
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: playoff games. It's different though, down there with Burrow, like

1466
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: he is a different it's a different animal with him.

1467
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't I don't think it's overstepping

1468
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: to say that like he's on a trip objectory from

1469
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: an athlete standpoint, that would supersede like he's on a

1470
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,480
Speaker 1: traject it seems crazy to even say. That's almost sacrilegious,

1471
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: but it's it feels like he's on a trajectory to

1472
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: be like Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Joel more like big

1473
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: red and machine type beloved. Like that's kind of where

1474
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: he's at right now. I'm sure he's got a he's

1475
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: had a stake there for a year named after him. Yeah,

1476
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,879
Speaker 1: I mean he's I think he's got He's changed everything

1477
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: down there. He's changed, I mean, the naming of the stadium,

1478
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: the indoor facility, the you know, even the stuff they're

1479
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: doing with the uniforms at the white Bengal and all

1480
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like everything that that that they're doing is

1481
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: a reaction to his popularity. And I do think for

1482
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: them it's kind of a difference between the two teams.

1483
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: I think that they're kind of like, it feels like

1484
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: to me like them and the Bills are like just

1485
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: universally liked by Everybody likes those two teams. They like

1486
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. They're just they're kind of like America's

1487
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: team a little bit right now, and at least until

1488
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: they win, kind of felt felt like the way that

1489
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City felt with Mahomes until they won the Super Bowl,

1490
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: and then you'd find reasons like Mahomes as a younger

1491
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: brother to us like them. But in the beginning, you know,

1492
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: you loved them just because they were fun to watch,

1493
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of the case with Cincinnati

1494
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Yeah, going through our schedule, there's plenty of

1495
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: places you can go to watch them on the road. Um, Washington, Carolina,

1496
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: I think will be tough simply because it's the season opener,

1497
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: and it's the season opener is always a tough time.

1498
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: I've got no feel on that place. A great city. Yeah,

1499
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: I like Charlotte. I mean I've been to. Yeah, I've

1500
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: already We've already been there one other time in the

1501
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: ten years we've been doing this one other time. Yeah, Okay,

1502
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: Cam Newton was the quarterback. Was he was? He a dude.

1503
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: He was still a dude. He was there were some

1504
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: signs that it might be going south, but yeah, not

1505
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: that day. Yeah, I remember him playing here. I was

1506
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: at the game when he played here. It was not

1507
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: himself at that point, he was he was, you know,

1508
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: on the way to you know, that could be that'll

1509
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: be a tough ticket. I mean, what was it like

1510
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: for you seeing Baker in blue, it's interesting. It was

1511
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: weird to me. I mean it was like you're prepared

1512
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: for it, you're aware that it was going to happen, um,

1513
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: But as I'm watching the game, it was like, oh, yeah,

1514
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right he was. He was here all

1515
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: that time, but now he's now he's there in blue.

1516
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm not who's being carted off here, but it is not.

1517
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: Everything is serious, but this is not one of the

1518
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: one of your pre eminence. I don't believe so from

1519
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: a lot from a carded off standpoint, but I mean,

1520
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: we're in individuals, so I'm trying to well, they did

1521
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: they did a little bit of of not really eleven

1522
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: on eleven, but they did a little well I guess. So, yeah,

1523
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: they did a little offense defense stuff down there, um

1524
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: over on that far field, so that I didn't see

1525
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: anything happen. I was keeping my eye on it. I didn't.

1526
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything that happened there. Uh oh it

1527
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 1: was our it's our seventh rowd pick Dawson Deaton. Okay,

1528
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: headed off on the card. Yeah that's not a good

1529
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: size center guard. Yeah, yeah, that is. That's that room

1530
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: already tested. Yea the loss of Nick Harris, um, and

1531
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: then potentially more so with with uh, with Dean going

1532
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: off in the cart here. Uh. In the last couple

1533
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: of minutes, we're back to some individual stuff. We have

1534
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: running backs where Cream Hunt just put a move on

1535
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, which is just nothing short of sensational, so

1536
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: that that was certainly a lot of fun. We've got

1537
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks and some and some defensive backs working here

1538
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: as well. UM, so everyone's starting to get active a

1539
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: little bit out here to Shaun Watson, Jacoby Brisette working

1540
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: with the group here right now. And then oh my goodness,

1541
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: the voice is going to join us here on the

1542
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: other side of this quick time out. Uh. Jim Donovan

1543
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: gonna join the program. We'll all get better. Coming up

1544
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: Nextuous to Clean the Bron's Daily Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily

1545
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,400
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1546
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1547
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1549
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1554
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Speaker 1: app today? The Land on Demand remodeled by the Bath

1555
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: Authority and now joined by the voice of the Cleveland Browns,

1556
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: the Great Jim Donovan. When you get back after what

1557
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: felt like about a six week vacation, you guys are Oh,

1558
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: I made a very big decision in my lifestyle. Um

1559
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: and I presented it to my dear wife Cheryl the

1560
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: other day. We will not retire in Jackson. It's just

1561
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: the damnedest thing that that's an NFL city. It really is,

1562
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, there's wonderful people down there. Was

1563
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: down there a lot um, but but was down there

1564
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. It's just the craziest thing that

1565
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: that that's a thing that was the Super Bowl, right,

1566
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: you were down there too, Yeah, with all the yachts

1567
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: for the owners. I mean it was it was, Yeah,

1568
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: it just wasn't. It's crazy. I mean that in the

1569
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 1: mid nineties he said, Yeah. And it's a college football

1570
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: towns Georgia, Florida Georgia game and the Bowl and that

1571
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: is the that's the footprint of that stadium still it

1572
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: is the old the bones of it are the old

1573
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: Gator Bowl bow in history. I broadcast the first ever

1574
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars win in the NFL. Come on, yeah, you were

1575
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: you were on the Was that an NBC NBC game?

1576
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,520
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you it was in the Houston Astrodome.

1577
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: The Oilers were still I think this was their last

1578
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: year in Houston. Uh, and they were gonna go, didn't

1579
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: they go? They went to Memphis first and then they

1580
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: finally but anyway, it was in the Astrodome and um,

1581
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: they ended up winning their first game. Steve Burline was

1582
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: their quarterback. But a couple of weeks later they went

1583
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: to Mark Burnell Forever then UM and they ended up

1584
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: winning the game. Desmond Howard was on the team yea

1585
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: and returned to punt for them, and it really got

1586
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: them going by the end of the year. I think

1587
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: they finished their first season pretty close to five hundred.

1588
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was perfect for that situation in that job

1589
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: that time around. I don't know about the second time

1590
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: when he was the president of the team, but yeah,

1591
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: there was their first win in the Astrodom. We were

1592
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: talking about that last week the NFL. I mean both

1593
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Jaguars were really good right away

1594
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: their second year each they were in the conference championship game,

1595
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: and I believe as far as the Jaguars were concerned,

1596
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: they ended up losing to the Patriots in the a

1597
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: f C Championship game in Foxbro. But they lead going

1598
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter and the Pats, Yes, Parcels Bell,

1599
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: check the count coordinator right and then, and then we

1600
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: wondered if that was you know, there was always talk

1601
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: that that's what happened. Like when the Browns came back,

1602
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: it was like a weekend him, it's good this week, Like,

1603
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: how good can these guys there in the championship game

1604
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: year too? You know, we can't have that. Um. This

1605
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: was Jim I. I tweeted this on Friday. Um, it

1606
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: felt like a distracted team to me. And I don't

1607
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: know how they couldn't be. I mean, how how could

1608
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: you ever not be? Um? They are human. I think

1609
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: sometimes we think they're like maddened players and you just

1610
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: put them in positions. It just felt distracted to me

1611
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: on Friday night. Buddy, Oh it really did. Um. You

1612
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: know what, maybe they should have deferred, after all, they

1613
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: won the toss maybe they should have deferred and put

1614
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: the defense out there, but they won the toss and

1615
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: they went out there. They got the ball not in

1616
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: great field position. Bradley only got him out to the

1617
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: thirteen yard line. And I'm wondering, Bough, if he had

1618
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: hit the pastor Schwartz the one he threw over his head,

1619
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: might things have really settled out. But he missed that,

1620
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: and then Schwartz missed everything else after that, and then

1621
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: it was just a disaster. It was you know, it

1622
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: really was a disaster. Offensively, they couldn't do anything. I mean,

1623
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: there are penalties. He tripped over the new center carress

1624
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: before that went out. Deernest Johnson fumbles. I mean, that's

1625
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: unlike them. That is really unlike them. Yeah, but I

1626
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 1: also think that it's it's probably maybe we should have

1627
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: expected it, because you know, we come out here and

1628
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: we're out here every day at camp, and we see

1629
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: a team. And I've said this before in the show, Jim, like,

1630
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: if you just come out here, you don't have a

1631
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: real sense up until today, we're now and as of

1632
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: yesterday pricts getting a lot more of the ones. You'd

1633
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: have no sense that Deshaun Watson wasn't the starting quarterback

1634
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: in the Cleveland Browns up until Sunday, right, he got

1635
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: all the ones, and so you come here and it's like,

1636
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: well he's starting Week one against Carolina and the but

1637
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: the reality is in the back of your head, you

1638
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: know he wasn't, So how could you not. It's like

1639
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: he's gets the fancy's preparing two teams. Yeah, and I

1640
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: think that, Um. You know, the other thing is I

1641
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: think they wanted it in in high speed. They wanted

1642
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: to get the ball, get him in, get it going,

1643
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe go down the field, get a score right away.

1644
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: Because really, the other thing that we've watched, as we

1645
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: have watched him participate through the spring and now into

1646
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: the summer as their number one quarterback, he's made it

1647
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: look so easy, so easy, But the other day it

1648
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: was just so hard. And the other thing bo the

1649
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: the acoustics of the booze um, and that's were they

1650
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: piping it in. You know, I heard your ride when

1651
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: I was driving over here. I didn't know that they

1652
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: were pumping it in. It wasn't a huge crowd, but

1653
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: it was a boisterous crowd. Soon as he came out,

1654
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as he left the sideline

1655
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: and came out for that first series. I mean, it

1656
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: was resounding. Now, not to the point where I don't

1657
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: think anybody was having trouble hearing the signals or anything

1658
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: like that. But you have to think about it. He

1659
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: was such a popular player, even if he was a

1660
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: visiting player coming in and playing, because a lot of

1661
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: people enjoyed watching him playing college and what he did

1662
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: at Clemson and then into the NFL, and you enjoyed

1663
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: the way he played, and you heard about the citizen

1664
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 1: he was at that time in Houston, and it was

1665
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: all good. You admired him. So I'm wondering had he

1666
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: ever been bowed before? So I actually brought up exactly

1667
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: that in the first hour, because he is arguably the

1668
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: most one of the five most popular college football players

1669
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: in the last years. It's he's at the very top

1670
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: of the list of most popular college football players the

1671
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: last years. Um, you couple that with everything you just

1672
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: mentioned about the Houston thing, I would not only hazard

1673
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: to guess it's the first time he's ever been bowed,

1674
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: but it's probably the first time, maybe ever, that he's

1675
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: even wrapped his head around being disliked, you know, like

1676
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: or or people viewing him negatively. There's a psychological toll

1677
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: to that. I brought up the Tiger Woods thing with

1678
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: remember Tiger when he came back, Like it wasn't the physical,

1679
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: but like all of a sudden, it was like instead

1680
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: of oh my god, that's Tiger Woods, it was like, hey,

1681
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: that's Tiger to hear what he did, like that type

1682
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: of thing, And there's a mental toll that that takes. Yeah,

1683
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: And I even think last year when he just stood

1684
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: off to the side at Texans practice, there was I

1685
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: don't think there was any animosity or anything like that

1686
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: towards him. I think his teammates realized what his position was,

1687
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: that he wanted to be away from that organization. Um,

1688
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: now is everything that kind of mounted as these cases

1689
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: really started to roll out, and most of them right

1690
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. But um, you know,

1691
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: he's really been very, very warmly received everywhere he went.

1692
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time he played here in

1693
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: that monsoon here and he was you walked away and

1694
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: you went, what a player. And the Browns beat them

1695
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: that day and he was the only reason that they

1696
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: were close. I mean, my god, both they had Duke

1697
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: Johnson is their only running back, and I mean that

1698
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: he was. He didn't they didn't have other running backs

1699
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 1: at that time, and he was he kept them in

1700
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: the game and he made some real to Shaun Watson

1701
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: plays and so you walked away and you tip your

1702
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: hat to a guy like that. No, it's and it's

1703
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: something that you know, I just cannot believe we're sitting

1704
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: here August fifteen and we're still having this conversation. It's

1705
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: just absolute nonsense to me that it's been the case. Um,

1706
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: it feels like this is pretty straightforward. We were even

1707
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: told when this went to Appeal Gym that this would

1708
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: be expedit expedited right, Well, it's ten days, yeah, I

1709
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: I which would tell me that right now? And you know,

1710
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: we've gone a thousand different ways on this thing. What's

1711
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: going on now? What's going on now? You would have

1712
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: to think that maybe settlement talks are going on right

1713
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: now and and strategically, um, there there probably is a

1714
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: lot of strategy going on. And I think a big

1715
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: hunk of that was Friday night in that pregame show

1716
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: for the Browns on TV when he did the interview

1717
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: with the duty Ki Kabwala and they did the interview

1718
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: and he came out. The first thing he said was

1719
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: listen that I'd like to apologize. And that's the first

1720
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: time we had heard him go down that road. Really. Yeah,

1721
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: and I think for this team, for this fan base, uh,

1722
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: for us, you know that are caught talking about the

1723
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: you can wrap you can you can get your head

1724
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: around a lot of things. I can get my head

1725
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: around Jacoby Bursett season. You know, I've said this before

1726
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: in the show, like I can envision, you know, the

1727
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: Broncos case Keenum game last year on Thursday Night. You

1728
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: win a lot of games playing that way and in

1729
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: that style, Like, I can wrap my head around that.

1730
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: But I gotta know what we're what we're what we're

1731
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: doing here at some point. And I'm not Kevin's I'm

1732
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 1: some guy talking about on the radio. I can't imagine

1733
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: him and this coaching staff going like, what are we

1734
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 1: preparing for? How do we prepare? Yeah? Um, And you

1735
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: really go back to Kevin's first year and how they won.

1736
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, played those first six and seven games of

1737
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: that year. Remember Baker Maybee was only throwing on an

1738
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: average of like a team passes a game. I mean,

1739
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: that was a Chub Hunt offensive line, very very timely turnovers,

1740
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: play good defense, you know, be solid and specialty teams.

1741
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: But it's Chubb and Hunt. We get ahead, they grind

1742
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: the clockdown, let him kind of feed in a couple

1743
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: of throws here and there, don't put anything in danger.

1744
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't until you know, the second half of their

1745
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: year when they kind of opened it up and he

1746
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: got hot at that time. Yeah, and and as has

1747
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: been the case, they're doing some eleven on eleven work

1748
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: on the far field over there from us, the westfield. Uh,

1749
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: it is it's Jacoby Brissette running with the ones now again.

1750
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: So now he's he's getting They basically just flopped. So

1751
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: now de Sean's running getting those two reps and occasional one,

1752
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: but it's primarily Jacoby Presett with with the ones. They

1753
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: gotta get ready, they got we're not that far away now. Yeah,

1754
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: big week for him apparently not on Sunday, but on

1755
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday. It would be a big week for

1756
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: him as he got a lot of work against the Eagles. Now,

1757
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: I watched the Eagles, uh the other night after them

1758
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: they played the Jets on in their opening game. Now

1759
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: they're front liners. They lost the game, but I mean

1760
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: the front liners were very good. They are very very good.

1761
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean they're good defensive line, great offensive line. They're

1762
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of structured like us UM. You know, they leaned

1763
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: on the running attack last year. That's when they got hot.

1764
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: They went away from the past. I mean, there's still

1765
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a question mark about Jalen Hurts. But this will be

1766
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: a really good test I think over the week and

1767
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: probably on Sunday too. But I know a lot of

1768
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: the players say most of the real good work will

1769
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: be Thursday and Friday. Yeah, that those will be when

1770
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: you really pay attention to Thursday and Friday. It feels

1771
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: like most NFL teams now well that you it feels

1772
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: like the way they're handled it is that first preseason

1773
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: game you make. Those that play ones, you'll get a

1774
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: little of that on that first one and then that's it,

1775
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm curious if that's the way that

1776
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: this plays out throughout the league this week. And then

1777
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the other thing bow is that you have that extended

1778
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: time after that last game to get ready for the

1779
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: opening game. I mean it used to be ready set,

1780
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: let's go right, you play Thursday night. You know, a

1781
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: lot of times in the in the way back when

1782
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: they used to play Saturday night and then cut and

1783
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: then get ready, you know for the game coming up

1784
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: that following week, and it was the regular season opener. Now,

1785
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: I think you have about eleven days before we go

1786
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: to Karen in that game, so they'll get and I

1787
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: think Kevin is counting on a lot of time now

1788
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: with Brissette. Yep, yeah, I mean that that's where you're

1789
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: going to bank on it and put together what at

1790
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: least for you know, at the very least for a

1791
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: decent portion of this season will be a Brown's offense

1792
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: with Jacoby Brissette. Uh. Always excellent to talk to you,

1793
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 1: my friend. Oh I I do have to tell you

1794
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: when I was driving over here feverishly to try and

1795
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: get on with you, Um, when you were going through

1796
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 1: the James Laronitis defensive that you're saying, I was yelling

1797
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: at the radio in my car bo call it eight

1798
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: time out, time out, call it time that man, that

1799
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: was ya. That's a different lay. It's like being at

1800
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: the United Nations and some guy gets up that speaks

1801
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: and you have to go. You have to wear the headphones.

1802
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit Yeah, there's a little bit

1803
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: of that too. It I was like, wow, that's what

1804
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: But that's his And honestly, I know you pay very

1805
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 1: close attention to Notre Dame. Like his his enthusiasm for

1806
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: like he's a g A and analyst now, but he'll

1807
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: be a coordinator, linebacker, coach that like, his enthusiasm for

1808
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: ball is just at any at every every level. It's

1809
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: just ten year old tackle. That was great. That was great.

1810
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Did you get by the way, do you have carrots

1811
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: for the boys when you got home after the long vacation? Oh? Boy,

1812
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Yes, from from dad. Absolutely, boy,

1813
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: they were happy to see I bet they were. Mom.

1814
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: Could be a little tough on them, right, great could

1815
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Speaker 1: seeing you both. The great Jim Donovan here so much

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Speaker 1: Uh so we have some eleven on eleven happening here.

1825
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Um de Sean just sort of bullet to Kareem right underneath.

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: It was such so sweet Jacobe getting the majority other

1827
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: reps with the ones, which is the case on Sunday,

1828
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: we see Josh Rosen out there slinging it around a

1829
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: little bit now too. I have not seen Josh Dobbs,

1830
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: but it could just be that I'm not looking ros

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01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: There's a great ball. That's a great ball in the

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01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: back of the end zone there. Um. Kind of he's

1833
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 1: another guy that on Friday night the moment didn't look

1834
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: too big for him. Considered always been through, He's been

1835
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: through a lot. It's he has. Yeah, it's a it's

1836
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna be something worth monitoring now that we at least

1837
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: have you know, some idea of how this thing will

1838
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: look going forward. Still awaiting the NFL, of course, the

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Speaker 1: next level is coming up next. We're back tomorrow out

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