WEBVTT - A True Crime Special: The Tammy Sytch Interview Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, It is the Queen of these between nineteen and.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Eyes up Here in the Ipart

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<v Speaker 1>Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, I am joined by the who Who's Chad

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<v Speaker 2>and Chad.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy New Year twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you believe it? I cannot unreal. How's your New

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<v Speaker 1>Year ago?

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<v Speaker 3>It was great? Yeah, I think it was wonderful. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I got to feel in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four is gonna be the year of Eyes up Here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little line.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tell it you didn't know it? Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good. I think I'm excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a great New Year's Eve I did signed

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<v Speaker 2>by Superstars. That was crazy and if you didn't watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>you missed out. It's always a party over there. The

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<v Speaker 2>third year in a row that I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We sold a lot of March nott.

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<v Speaker 2>A eight x tens, drank a lot of booze.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>So my favorite part is just going in and out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll check in and you'll be like going off

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<v Speaker 3>about one thing and laughing hysterically, and then I'll tap

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<v Speaker 3>out for a couple of minutes and come back. It'd

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<v Speaker 3>be the exact same thing when you go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm just a little more shift faced than

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<v Speaker 2>I was five minutes prior.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's always a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, and so we'll probably do it again

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<v Speaker 2>next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So happy twenty twenty four everyone. We had such a

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<v Speaker 2>good response to last week's podcast about Tommy Sitch and

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<v Speaker 2>her last interview, we decided to do a second part

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<v Speaker 2>and we only got through about sixteen minutes because I

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<v Speaker 2>was so fired up and I had so much to say.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how much we'll get through today,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to try to finish it off. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm glad that everybody enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot to learn. This is definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>as like this is a little more light, which I

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<v Speaker 3>think we need a little bit of levity in between

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<v Speaker 3>the craziness that is this story, which we'll it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to tap back into it towards the end of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but this next portion, at least you got there's a

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<v Speaker 3>little more context to the relationship you guys had, which

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<v Speaker 3>I think is super important to learn as we also

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<v Speaker 3>dive back into this topic again, is your relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>her and the not even reship, the friendship that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys had. This is where I think we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 3>learning a little bit more about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where the backlash started after we posted this,

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<v Speaker 2>because people were like, how could you sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>laugh and tell stories? And it's like, you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, again, I'm gonna say it, the Florida incident

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<v Speaker 2>did not happen. Okay. I never made light of anything

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<v Speaker 2>that happened prior. I told her fifty times how wrong

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<v Speaker 2>she was and how we're going to get on the

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<v Speaker 2>straight and narrow and blah blah blah. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want this whole interview to be doom and gloom. I

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<v Speaker 2>this was the first time I sat down with her

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<v Speaker 2>and did something like this, so I thought it would

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<v Speaker 2>be nice to give a backstory and to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>fans how we developed our relationship and things that we

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<v Speaker 2>did together, and to let people see the bond that

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<v Speaker 2>we formed and the friendship that we created. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think there was anything wrong with that, but apparently a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people did, and I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people on YouTube when we aired this. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people just hammering me for, you know, posting something light

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<v Speaker 2>hearted in this interview when I should just be focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on how horrible a person she is, and why am

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<v Speaker 2>I sitting here laughing with her and having a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, you can be the judge of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be nice to just explain, because you know what, when

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<v Speaker 2>you have a friend on, that's what you do. How

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<v Speaker 2>did we meet? Do you remember the first time we met?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when we first worked together? I just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want it to be all negative and again I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she was on the straight and narrow. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to be a turning point for her

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<v Speaker 2>and things were going to be great and she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to come back strong. That's what I had hoped.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not not tredamus. I don't know the future,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I I couldn't have predicted what happened. What

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<v Speaker 2>was it six months after this interview was taken place,

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<v Speaker 2>or however long it was like, I didn't know. So

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm going to try and turn it into

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<v Speaker 2>a positive direction, and I'm going to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>some good stories in there that I thought people would enjoy,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can be the judge.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have an update too on her status since

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<v Speaker 3>we recorded this part one, there is an update. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess we could save that to the end of this

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<v Speaker 3>viewing and kind of go over it. But there's actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's really been two updates since the recording

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<v Speaker 3>of that first part, so we can dive into that afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>since we've already kind of built this little piece up.

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<v Speaker 3>But ok yeah, I'm ready to dive into it if

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<v Speaker 3>you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So again, if you need to stop me,

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<v Speaker 3>raise your hand or say schmuck, oh stop the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just raise my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, please thank you for not insulting me. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Es.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, the New Year knew me. I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>New Year that we just will go in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thrilled when I heard you were done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and because you know you and I. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even remember what year we met, but I remember

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<v Speaker 2>the first night I met you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember the first night we met,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at the arena and I was I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who I was walking with, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, walking this way.

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<v Speaker 2>You were walking this way, okay, And I remember everybody

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<v Speaker 2>warning me about you, don't be friends with her, don't

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<v Speaker 2>be friends. I didn't know you, so I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, for me, I have to like, I

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<v Speaker 2>take it with a grain of salt. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>good to me, I to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way I look at things, right me too.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're coming this way, and all in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of my head, I just keep hearing don't be friends

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<v Speaker 2>with her, don't be friends with her. And you leaned

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<v Speaker 2>over to me as were walking, and grabbed my arms.

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<v Speaker 1>And was like, I've been wanting to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, and I've been wanting to meet you,

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<v Speaker 2>and and we were we kind of said let's get

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<v Speaker 2>together later because we were both doing something like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing something, okay, And and I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>kept walking, and I said, she doesn't seem that bad,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>such a bitch, why would you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know I am, but not to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're all a bitch in a sense. We all

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<v Speaker 1>have our bitchy moments.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean we I thought we clicked right then

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<v Speaker 2>and there, and from that night on we've been friends

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<v Speaker 2>ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened one percent. I remember it like it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>The anxiety that the boys gave me about this girl

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<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. Every single person was like, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>like her. She's gonna come in and she's a spot stealer,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's im for that, you know your position, and

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<v Speaker 2>she'll she'll sleep with your boyfriend, like the whole nine yards. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was one person, only Chris, because obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Chris loved her, and you know, Chris was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for her to meet you, and blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Every single other person in that locker room

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing nice to say about Tommy. Negative, negative, negative,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like sitting there like wow, all

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<v Speaker 2>these things like I'm gonna hate this girl. I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hate her. But I tried to keep an open mind,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because, like I said, I judge a person

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<v Speaker 2>by the way they treat me. And I've heard terrible

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<v Speaker 2>things about people in the past, like what people did

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<v Speaker 2>to other people, but these people were good to me

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<v Speaker 2>and they never crossed me, so, you know, being I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm a good judge character for the most part.

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<v Speaker 2>But with Tammy up until like this whole debacle happened,

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<v Speaker 2>we never fought. We never had anything bad to say

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<v Speaker 2>about each other, Like there were no ill will whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this girl and got.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Never once did she stiff me. Never did I stiff her,

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<v Speaker 2>worked wonderful together, like, never had a problem, not once.

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<v Speaker 2>So every single person who buried her to me, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, I mean, maybe they were trying to look

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<v Speaker 2>out for me, I don't know, and maybe they had

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<v Speaker 2>negative interactions with her in the past, but I never did.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say that every single time I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this girl, there was not one thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>can say negative about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just put that out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is before she's full blown there, correct, This

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<v Speaker 3>is just when she's coming as Chris's girlfriend Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>She might have been starting with us at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, And maybe maybe she wasn't like I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume. I would have met her a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times she came in to just hang out, so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this was just she was hanging out. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>if she actually did anything like I remember one night

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<v Speaker 2>she was like I think she was wearing that had

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<v Speaker 2>said on the in the Eagle's Nest, like on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Top helping Paul. I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, but she wasn't like part of

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room per se. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>at this point she was released, because I think she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was coming when she was I think she was

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<v Speaker 2>still working, yeah, and she would come and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how she got the time off, but there were times,

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<v Speaker 2>so it must have been before she was even with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she she said she help Paul at the pay

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<v Speaker 3>per view. She helped Paul barely legal in ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't believe they released her until mid ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so it had to be before she was

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<v Speaker 2>active with us. But I mean even still, like you

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<v Speaker 2>hear all this stuff, and you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what she did behind closed doors, but that didn't affect me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I that was none of my business I had. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they were doing in private was their business and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't my business. So you know, if she came

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<v Speaker 2>in and I had a boyfriend and she slept with

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend that it would have been my business. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't care what she was doing. It didn't affect me.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't included in that. So and again a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those stories, were they true, were they not true?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You hear so many stories. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I say that is there's stories about me

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't true. So I don't know what's true and

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<v Speaker 2>what's not true about Tammy. I honestly, I couldn't care

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<v Speaker 2>less at this point. That doesn't affect me. What I

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<v Speaker 2>focused on was the kind of person she was, how

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<v Speaker 2>I interacted with her, how we got along.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Say one hundred she became like a sister to me,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's how close we were at one point. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I enjoyed my time with her in the

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<v Speaker 2>ring and outside of the ring, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, picking a bag up, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Always tell people, like everybody's like, how is Tammy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, look, I've been friends with her for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>something years, Like I love the girl. I loved working

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<v Speaker 2>with her, I loved her outside of the business.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had an argument, like a real argument with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we've had her.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like we've bickered about stupid bullshit, but nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>not like.

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<v Speaker 4>A fight, not like you have.

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<v Speaker 1>No we've ever been mad at each other, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But it's never come to that. And

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<v Speaker 1>all these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know why you have such a bad reputation.

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<v Speaker 4>I think because when it comes to business, I can

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<v Speaker 4>be a real bitch because I don't let people walk

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<v Speaker 4>all over me. But that's a good thing, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>what I used to have to do a lot and

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<v Speaker 4>you were probably there at some shows like with Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he was a horrible businessman, nicest guy in

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<v Speaker 4>the world, but he would let people screw him over

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<v Speaker 4>left and right. He would take a show with a

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<v Speaker 4>guarantee of let's say seven point fifty, and the promoter

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<v Speaker 4>will walk up, Hey, listen, I only have three hundred. Okay,

0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.079
<v Speaker 4>that's all right, and I'm like, no, that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have to get in the promoter's face and

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<v Speaker 4>demand the money and get bitchy, and he would get paid.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got that reputation of being, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>the business just because I don't let people walk all

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<v Speaker 4>over me or him.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was I want to ask a question about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's all that had to do with

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<v Speaker 3>that reputation was being the heavy for Chris when he

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<v Speaker 3>got underpaid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And while she was saying that, it brought me

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<v Speaker 2>back to when we interviewed Bubba or bully Ry or

0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.319
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call him, he said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I said to him, why do you have

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<v Speaker 2>such a negative, you know, rep And he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to promoters, I don't let them take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of me. Now I understand that about promoters, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wanted to kind of dive into like

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<v Speaker 2>personal too, but then I was just like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to push things, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's a lot of the boys that didn't like him,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. But whatever, a lot of the boys

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like her, and I think that stems back to

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<v Speaker 2>the way she treated Chris. And I use my air

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<v Speaker 2>quotes because again, allegedly all those stories that are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of people said Chris tolerated it

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<v Speaker 2>because he was so in love with her, and that

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to like the click and the Shawn Michaels stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, having her in Sean's locker room and

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<v Speaker 2>having I don't know if it was Kevin Nash or

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Waltman. Somebody watched the door and then Chris would

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<v Speaker 2>like walk by and she'd be in that locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't I didn't work for them. I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I you know, are these stories true, are they

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<v Speaker 2>not true? I don't know. But a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>boys didn't have respect for her because they had so

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<v Speaker 2>much respect for Candido, and they didn't like the way

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<v Speaker 2>that she treated Chris. So I understand what she's saying

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<v Speaker 2>business wise, just like I understood what Bubba was saying

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<v Speaker 2>business wise. And honestly, if a promoter says I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>pay you seven fifty, he should pay you seven to fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>whether there's one ticket sold or one thousand tickets sold.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like we never go if you worked at

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<v Speaker 2>Low's and you're supposed to make thirteen dollars an hour

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't sell anything, and you think that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come and say, well, I'm only gonna pay you

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<v Speaker 2>six dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not the way it works.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this business is crazy because people think they

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<v Speaker 2>can adjust your prices. If you agree to something, you

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<v Speaker 2>should get that money. So I one hundred percent agree

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<v Speaker 2>with Tammy on that, and maybe that's why promoters didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like her. I do know Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He was wishy washy because he loved working. He would

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<v Speaker 2>have worked for free, but that's not how you make

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<v Speaker 2>a living, you know. And Chris would have been out

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<v Speaker 2>on the road every weekend working for peanuts, while you know,

0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Tammy wants the money. And I'm on tammy side for

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<v Speaker 2>that because I'm not going to go out and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to take anything less than what you offered me.

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<v Speaker 2>So one hundred percent I'm on her side with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like it's not everything. That's not the full reason.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a little bit. And maybe that's just the

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<v Speaker 2>promoter part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just picturing her getting heavy on dapper Johnny

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<v Speaker 3>Falco up there in Central Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, she said it. She could be a real bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and when it comes to money, I think, you know,

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.840
<v Speaker 2>that brings out a different side of people. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>fight for what I believe in and I could be

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<v Speaker 2>a real bitch too, And I'm sure you could be

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<v Speaker 2>a real bitch if it comes down to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if your promise something, you should get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just common courtesy. It's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, when when think of it this way,

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:35.359
<v Speaker 2>if you're the promoter, it's just like when they send

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<v Speaker 2>a deposit out and then oh, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>showing up, which I've never done that, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Just going to keep the money. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's one hundred percent wrong. So coming in for

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<v Speaker 2>seven fifty but getting paid three hundred dollars, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not there, right, Yeah, that's a big that's a

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<v Speaker 3>big chunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's like it's wrong on both accounts. Like

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.719
<v Speaker 2>wrestlers have been wrong with promoters, but more so, promoters

0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.040
<v Speaker 2>have tried to screw wrestlers over for years and it's

0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 2>just bad business. So I applaud Tammy for wearing the

0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.720
<v Speaker 2>pants in that relationship when it came to getting.

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.159
<v Speaker 3>His money agreed all right, picking back up.

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<v Speaker 4>So many people I had to get in their face

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<v Speaker 4>at shows because they didn't they were trying to, you know,

0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 4>cut his money because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of worked for Yeah, Chris would work for free,

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<v Speaker 2>like he just loved the business so much it he

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<v Speaker 2>could have had a.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty thousand dollars guarantee, and of the guy would say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't pay it, and I can I get you

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<v Speaker 4>next year, because he'd be like, yeah, no problem, and

0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.160
<v Speaker 4>it's like no, So I would have to be the voice.

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 4>So I got that reputation of being a bitch. But

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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to you, when it comes to business,

0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.520
<v Speaker 4>business is business, and you're not going to screw me

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.040
<v Speaker 4>or anybody. I love over but you know, but other

0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:51.600
<v Speaker 4>than that, I think I'm pretty easy going.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen, we've worked together so.

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<v Speaker 2>Many times, I know, and there was never a moment

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<v Speaker 2>where either of us got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we after our asses off under our air.

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<v Speaker 4>Pop off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do you remember that? Yes, Chad, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what she's talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have talked about it before, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Please we so, Tammy and I frequented the Fetish Factory and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh I was just there last year and then

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:26.320
<v Speaker 4>it's not there anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I don't think it's open anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>For it it was it was this place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was expensive too. I don't know how we found it,

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 2>but we found it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we just drove by it and saw it

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.480
<v Speaker 4>and said, oh, let's stop bondage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We thought it'd just be like cool clothes, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a whole bondage store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like sex stuff. It was.

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 4>It was this crazy masks, like zippers across the mounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Like gas mask and they had whips and changing.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember when you first walked in there were the

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 1>butt plugs. Were like there were so many crazy things.

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so here we go, Chad like, she and I

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.879
<v Speaker 4>think we're gonna find some cool clothes for work. And

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 4>we go in and sa all this bondage stuff. We're

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 4>like you guys, like, hey, ladies, how you do? And

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 4>we're like it was such a creep too. So so

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 4>Franny's looking through this rack of rubber clothing and she

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.640
<v Speaker 4>finds this awesome dress and the dress has a full

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 4>zipper up the front and a full zipper.

0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Up the back.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't find anything I like, but she's like, I

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 4>have to have this dress. It was four hundred dollars

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 4>to four hundred dollars for a rubber dress.

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:34.639
<v Speaker 1>It was like a murder. It was a gown. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a murmaid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was long, long time.

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was long.

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't it like a reddish color?

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 2>It was red? Yes, it was hot red. It was

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 2>like a red lipstick, like I what the call? Yeah,

0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>devil red.

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<v Speaker 4>So she buys this dress.

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:49.919
<v Speaker 2>I bought this dress and I bring it to the

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 2>arena and Paul says, well, you're only doing a run

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 2>in tonight, and that's the only dress that I brought

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 2>that day. And I was like, well, shit, you know this,

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna waste the four hundred dollars dressing like this

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.919
<v Speaker 2>five second running that's gonna suck. Well, little did I

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 2>know that that clip would make it ten shows. We had.

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 4>We had to run in on Bam Bam Bigelow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even remember the setup, but please, I don't

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 4>remember the whole thing. But we had to run in

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:25.119
<v Speaker 4>on bammer and I ran in first, and he basically

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 4>just scooped me up onto his shoulder like for his finish.

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Then you come running in and he's supposed to scoop

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.719
<v Speaker 4>you up on his other shoulder first finish. He's supposed

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 4>to have both of us up here. Now I'm already

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 4>up on his shoulder, you know, flailing in the breeze,

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.800
<v Speaker 4>you come running, you put one knee upon the apron

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:46.880
<v Speaker 4>to get up. Back zipper popiack whole thing you see, no.

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Braw one and I have the microthong. Yeah.

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So this dress you couldn't wear a bra with it.

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And I had on the tiniest song I think I

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 2>ever worn my life, not thinking that it.

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Was going to pop off, and it was.

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>It was legit rubber, like rubber, like a tire rubber.

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the tightest outfits I've ever worn

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 2>in my life. When I went to get up, the

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 2>zipper did pop open because I think instead of I think,

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 2>it zipped downward instead of zipping upward. So the way

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I put my leg up, the zipper just went up

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.439
<v Speaker 2>and went out. So it looked like I was wearing

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 2>an apron that wasn't tied, so the whole If you

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.919
<v Speaker 2>saw me from the back, I was almost completely naked

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 2>except for this tiny thong, and I made sure to

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 2>hold the front against my breast because I didn't have

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>a brown Bam BAM's face was pure terror.

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.360
<v Speaker 1>It just looked at me like what is going on?

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 1>And I just looked at him.

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 2>I was just like just I think I said something

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:04.399
<v Speaker 2>like just me up. I was mortified, mortified, and like

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember jumping, you know, getting on his shoulder and

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.919
<v Speaker 2>looking at Tammy and she just said you're naked, and

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like I know.

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And you could see.

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Us hysterical laughing as were, and then Shane comes out

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 2>and he drops us. He Honest to god, I think

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 2>it was played for ten weeks straight, like ten weeks ago,

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 2>and you see WTV.

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Here I come.

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>When I went into the back, I got a standing ovation.

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I was mortified, absolutely mortified, and I don't think I

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 2>ever wore that dress again. So four hundred dollars down

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the dream honestly terrible.

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:43.159
<v Speaker 3>We agreed with a towel.

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>No, I was literally just kind of like holding I

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>was trying to hold the dress in place, you know,

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and maybe Atlas helped me cover me. I don't even

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 2>remember how I got out of the arena that day,

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 2>but good lord, that was like one of the it's

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the pile driver. When my boobs actually came completely out.

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>That was like the worst malfunctioned wardrobe malfunction I've ever

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 2>had in my life. It was so bad, crazy, and

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>it's one. It's got to be on YouTube.

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I've seen it, yeah, on Twitter shared, No,

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 3>probably fairly recently.

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think somebody, I think they did tweet

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>to me because I said worst wardrobe malfunctioning.

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Whoa the driver is the worst one.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, thanks for reminding me about that one.

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Too, terrible. So yeah, so that's that's what we're talking

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>about here.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Like me, pick a back up, Yeah, gets in the ring,

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 4>gets up to Bammer and as he's picking her up,

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 4>onto her shoulder front zipper pops open.

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>No no no, no no no yeah.

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 4>And you're starting to hold it closed. And I'm already

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 4>up on his shoulder and I look over and I

0:24:54.440 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 4>just lost it. I just know you your name kick.

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Laughing and bam BAM's face like he looked like he

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>shipped a brick in his pants, like he didn't know

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 2>what to do.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 4>And I was here, we are, but both them Bambam's

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 4>shoulders supposed to be afraid for our life. He's about

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 4>to kill us at think or just crack up. She's

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 4>naked on his shoulder with a little piece of rubber

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 4>like she's trying to cover her boobs with the rubber

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 4>the whole back time.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>The sime Ever wore that four hundred dollars dress.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Thank god, because what happened again, that is awful.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what my favorite spot is I think that

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>we ever did. I think it was in Buffalo. I

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 2>think it was the Burt Flickinger Center. I don't know

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>why this is popping in n I don't remember the

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>name of that ever, the Burt Flickinger Center, because it

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>had it was a cool building and it had like

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>the bleachers went all the way up, but the entrance way,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the entranceway was in the middle, and then there were

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>two bleachers here. And I don't remember the match at all,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>but I remember for some reason, I went to the

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 2>back and we worked it out before and you and

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Chris were supposed to grab me. Shane is still in

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 2>the ring, and I remember saying to Chris, go get

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a knife.

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this, No, they aired it. I said,

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:17.199
<v Speaker 1>get some kind of a.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Knife, even if it's a butter knife, because it'll be hysterical,

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I said. And and like Tammy, or you can hold

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 2>me and the other person can put a knife to

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>my throat.

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember this.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and we did it. And it aired.

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, this must have been one of the

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 4>drunk years.

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't.

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I went back and then we come out and Joey's like,

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Chris and Sonny.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>You have fancied it. And it's like, I'm gonna good job.

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:47.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to watch this clip.

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember a minute.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 2>When she says this month must have been one of

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the drunk years. Like I can honestly say I've never

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 2>worked with her while she was in nibriyant It in

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the ECW.

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Never.

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 2>The only time I saw her like they said she

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 2>was drinking was for wew Okay. And that was the

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>night and it was reported all over the internet. That's

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the night that she was supposed to drive myself and Cindy.

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Cindy snow she was supposed to Bobcat. She was supposed

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 2>to drive us back to our hotel. And you know,

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>it was were we at the Electric Factory. It's not

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the best neighborhood, and so we're in this parking lot

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>in our gimmick clothes and Tammy's never showing up right,

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and we're just standing there and it was like for

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>forty minutes, we're like where the hell is this girl?

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's the night.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you ever heard the story

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 2>that she they found her wandering in the graveyard.

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I ever heard that she was drunk.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And wandering around.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>And thank god, I think it was either Stephen DeAngelis

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 2>or maybe it was Ronnie Lang.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>They were like, girls, what are you doing? You're in

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>your gimmick clothes. We were like, we were.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Supposed to get picked up by Tammy, but now we

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 2>don't know where she is and nobody knew, Like we

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't find out what happened to her until the day after.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So like that whole night, I'm pissed off. I'm like, I.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Can't believe she left me here in this parking lot,

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>in my gimmick outfit, in this bad neighborhood, like.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, very.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Scared, very alone. It was dark, it was like eleven

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>thirty at night, and yeah, that's what happened to her.

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And then we got not a fight but a disagreement

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 2>because she swears that I told her she was getting

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>paid five hundred dollars right I had booked her. I

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>mean it was like maybe two three days before the show,

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was Dan Kahle and dance like the only

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>thing left in the budget is one hundred and fifty bucks.

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 2>And I told her. I was like, they have one

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty dollars and she's like, well, that's better

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.719
<v Speaker 2>than nothing. And I said, okay, come on down, you know.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, where's my five hundred dollars. I

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, what five hundred dollars? I never said five

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, so, you know, little little disagreement. But I

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>think the girls were like, she's drinking vodka and I

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know. So if you watch the

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>tape of that night, I think like people were saying

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>she was slewing her words and stuff like that. But

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>that's when she disappeared and they found her in the graveyard.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>A place to be found. Now, maybe she just hit

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 3>it very well. Maybe she was drinking and just hit it.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Never yeah, I never knew if she was, you know.

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know they were taking pills because back then,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>the somas were the thing, and the Soma shakes, and

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I never took suma's, Like, don't time I ever took

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>some is I think in my life. It was that

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>story that I told when we were at the tens

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>and she put like four or five of them in

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>my hand and dummy me. I was drunk and I

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh yeah, and I took them. But that's

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the only time I've ever taken them. And thank god,

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I woke up the next morning like a

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 2>good lord, you know who takes those things like that?

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>But that's what they were taking. So I didn't really

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>know about the drinking at this point, but apparently, like

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>later on in life, she told me, like, yeah, I

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>took pills, she said, but I loved I'm an alcoholic.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I love my drinks.

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Terrible. And we will pick this one up after these messages.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 3>All right, get ready to pick it back up here.

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>We are going to wrap up the fun year or

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 3>the fun times of ECW before we move into the

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 3>next part. So I'm gonna let it play here for

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 3>another minute and let me know if you need me

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>to sid.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>In.

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, it was never work, like I always tell people,

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I never felt like I was at work or at

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>a job right because it was always fun. It was

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>never a chore. Even if I had an early flight,

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't care. I the cantym was on when.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I got home.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't wait to go back, yeah, and see everybody

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and hang out and work because it was just a

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>good time, man.

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's the one thing.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you worked all over the place,

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and I've never had that feeling anywhere else. It's never

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>been the same, and I've never even come close to it.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 4>And it was a lot of fun being on the

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 4>road at that time with that crew because everybody it

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like a big happy family and everybody

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of looked out for each other rights and stuff

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 4>like that. Yeah, sure, you know, but we always we

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 4>always managed.

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>To have some kind of fun. It was never felt

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like work, No, not at all. I mean when the

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>checks were bounced and that.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Sucked, that sucked, yeah, yes, but we were still enjoying

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>ourselves as much as.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 4>We could so making the best of it.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>But but I've said it, you know, I've said for

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the last twenty five years or whatever, I've always enjoyed

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you always.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 4>I can't.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 2>There's not a bad thing entering out of the ring

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that I can say, you know what I mean, Personally,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 2>our connection it's always been strong. I'm thrilled that things

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>seem to be going right for you because they were

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>now Yeah, and I always you know, I say, people

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>want to see you fail?

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course they and it bothers me. And it's like,

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>why would you wish something like that on someone?

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Because people are assholes. There's so many people in the world,

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. They don't like to see

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 4>someone succeed. They like misery loves company, and people love

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 4>to see people fail.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Well I don't. I like to see my friends thrive.

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>And I want you to thrive. I want you to blossom.

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>And and you know you you've been caged up for

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>so long, the last I don't even know how many.

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Five years of probation in and out for stupid ship.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, but that's all done.

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 4>It's all done as they have no control over me,

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 4>and that can't get in trouble for you know, anything anymore.

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 4>So it's good. And I'm not trying any So it's

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 4>not I don't drink anymore. I don't drink any more,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 4>drinking driving anymore. So you're focusing on you, Yes, I'm

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 4>looking at look at me.

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>You're focusing on you, okay, because we've talked about this earlier.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw a tweat from you that that I'm very.

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Haunting words by one Queen of extreme This irritates me.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I just got chills listening to this. This This is

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>really really irritating because you can see I'm trying to

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>get a point across, you know what I mean.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Like you can see.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not just being like, Okay, Tammy, blah blah blah.

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm stopping her and saying, Okay, this is what you

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>need to do, you know. And what I'm referring to is,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, make good choices, pick good men, no more drinking,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 2>stick to it, you know what I mean, Like even

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>if you had to join a program. I know she

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 2>went to like the rehabs and the sober house and

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>all that, but apparently that didn't work for her, you know.

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.919
<v Speaker 2>And I said it before, it's who you run with.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>It's the gang that you're with. And she just had

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 2>a tendency to just pick the worst friggin men. It's

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, man. And and then people got

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>mad at me for saying that, Well, you can't blame

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 2>the people that she was with. You have to blame her.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 2>I do blame her in a sense, but it's it's

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>who you run with too. You have to have a

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>support system, a good support system. And you know, I

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 2>wasn't with her twenty four to seven, and from her

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>talking to me there, I honestly thought, she's not gonna drink.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>This is great. She's gonna never go to jail again.

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe that for her. So at this point, do

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I have to check in with her every five minutes

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>to make sure she's okay? I didn't think so. And

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I think anybody watching this can tell she looks healthy.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't you think so?

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought she you know, she looked great and very healthy,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 2>and she seemed I mean, I didn't like the way

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>she kept downgrading, like I got arrested for stupid shit. No,

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not stupid. Everything that you did justifyed you being arrested.

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Like let's you know, let's call Spada spade there. Okay,

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with what she said there. I did

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 2>honestly think that this was it for her and things

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>were going to go really well. And you know, she

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>was just telling me, and you'll hear it. She was

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>telling me all this good stuff that was happening and

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>how much money that she accumulated, and she sent me

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>pictures of her apartment and it was just gorgeous and

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>overlooked New York City, and I mean, everything was going great.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Turned so hearing this really gets under my skin and

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 2>it makes me so upset because I would have bet

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>money that she was going to be okay. And do

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>you know how many people said, oh, just wait for it,

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>she's going to screw up, just wait for it. Oh yeah,

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>my friends, friends that mutual friends, Oh, she's gonna screw up.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, don't say that, Like say a prayer

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>for you know, hope for the best. Oh, hope for

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the best, expect the worst. And I'm just like, good lord,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>everybody was saying she was going to fail. I didn't

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>talk to anyone who thought positive about her at this point,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not you know again, I'm not trying to

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>be a martyr. I'm not trying to say I'm the

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 2>only one who believed in her. But it kind of

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>seemed like it at the time, you know. And I

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>remember when really quickly. I remember when we were in

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>our hotel room at Russell Caid and we were just

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 2>getting ready, you know, putting our makeup on or whatever,

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about having best friends, and she

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, who's your best friend? And I said, oh, Betty.

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>And I was telling her, you know, because Betty and

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I have been friends now, I don't know, eight years,

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 2>nine years, something like that. And I was just telling

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 2>her how great Betty is and how she's my sister

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and how close we are and blah blah blah. And

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>she looked at me and she's like, I need a

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Betty in my life and I don't have anybody in

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>my life like that. I was just like, well, I said,

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you got me, and she's like, yeah, but I don't

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>get to see you and you have the kids and

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>your husband and it's different and you know, and I

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>got where she was coming from. But when she said that,

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 2>that made me sad because it's like she's admitting to

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>me she doesn't have one person that she can count on,

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Yeah, And that's that's sad.

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a sad revelation. So you know, I I

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>do have obligations. I am a mother, I am a wife,

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I have my kids. I can't just drop things and

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>run to her every minute of the day. I can't

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>go places like she wanted me to travel with her

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>all the time, like, let's go let's go.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>To Hawaii, Let's go here, let's get it.

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I can't if I was single.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, you.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Want to pay for my trip to Hawaii, I'll go

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 2>to Hawaii. But I can't just leave at the drop

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>of a hat. When you're a parent, your first responsibilities

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>to your children, and plus my mom was.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.879
<v Speaker 3>Alive, Right, that's the big one, because you were much

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 3>more limited.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do anything back then. And even still nail

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>like I want to just pick up and leave my

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 2>kids for a week.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that.

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 2>If we do anything, we take the kids with us,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>you know. So it broke my heart to hear her

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>say that she didn't have a best friend like that,

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and that made me sad. But again, you you know,

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 2>when you repeat something over and over and it's just

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 2>a negative thing and you don't learn from it, who

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 2>do you blame. You have to blame the person. You

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 2>have to take some responsibility for that.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Right, And we're going to dig into here a little

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 3>bit of her OnlyFans success that she was really I mean,

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean not on the ground floor of but she

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 3>was one of the biggest names I think to show

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>see success in the way she did, because it was

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 3>like every day somebody was talking about, hey did you

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 3>see this post that Tammy put up about her only fans?

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Or hey did you see she's given out this preview

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 3>of her only fans. And for the years and years

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 3>of speculation of was she going to do some sort

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 3>of adult content to then being like all in on it,

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>we kind of dive into it in this next little

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 3>piece here, which to me is if she decided to

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>stay on that straight and narrow path. I mean I

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 3>showed her to think how much money she really could

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 3>have made sticking with that.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I feel because she was like one of

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the first mainstream wrestling girls who went this rail, Like

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the girls had sights, but she was

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>really gun ho about it and she was doing more

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>than others, let's just put it that way, yes, And

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean at one point, I think she had like

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>one hundred grand in revenue in a short amount of time,

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a very short amount of time. So you know, it's

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like and I kept telling her, like, you have

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 2>all this money, don't drive do ubers. You can afford ubers,

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Like if you relapse and you're drinking and you know

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you have to do something. Call an uber. You can

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>afford the fifty bucks.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, I'm gonna pick it up from here.

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Strigued about I think you know what it is. But

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>if you don't, it's about your only fans, because you're

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:39.760
<v Speaker 2>back on only fans.

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 4>I did only it's amazing, it's only I did it.

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And it was a disaster, I can just tell you,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 2>because I don't show the goods and people got mad

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 2>at me. And you know, it was five months of

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of bagging and a lot of and it

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>just didn't It wasn't me right.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>But you're you're you're doing wonderful.

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 2>But I saw a recent tweet looking for co stars

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 2>male or female?

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is going on? What are you?

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 3>And is this I'm gonna have to this.

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Is this a gimmick? What? What is?

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>What are you offering to these people?

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Because you're basically talking to the fans right now right?

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 2>What what is the What is the If I respond

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>and I say, Hey, Tammy, I'm a forty nine year

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 2>old female.

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I get well, I'm just saying what what are you

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>writing me back? What are you offering me?

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I am offering my members? Well A one member.

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>You have to be a member.

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 4>You have to be a member. And I'm not going

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.879
<v Speaker 4>to just pick somebody off the street. I mean, when

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 4>these people are subscribing, you know what I mean. So

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let one of them have the chance. Yes, okay,

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 4>so one person to be in a photo shoot. Okay,

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily saying that all kinds of crazy shit's gonna happen.

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Sure be at the goddamn zoo looking at the lions,

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, who knows, you know? But

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 4>I think that I think the Internet has taken it

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 4>and run with it with their own story. It's not

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 4>like I'm looking for a like sexual co star kind

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 4>of thing giving someone an opportunity to be in some pictures.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, look I I well, first of all,

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a great platform to promote it, to get

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>some more members.

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 4>But I've already been sent some links to some Internet

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 4>sites that were like taking it and running with it. Well,

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 4>they always do like I'm casting for a porn own.

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you could work, and they would.

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 2>They would put the story as you know, she's got,

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>she's got, you know.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Diase, there's someone ever, Oh my god, I think.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 2>At this stage, she was only doing maybe nude photos.

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think she was still doing everything.

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't doing the pornography with the boyfriend, because this

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>is what led to I think him coming on with her.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, possibly, possibly.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>So maybe she was doing solo stuff.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that was going on the whole time.

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see, I don't know. I didn't see her page.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 2>What I did see was the rate the dick pic thing,

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 2>rape my penis or whatever they called it. She did

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>those in the hotel and people would literally either send

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 2>in a photo or a video of their member and

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>she would be like, Hey, this is w w E

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Diva or what she Hall of Famer sonny, and uh,

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm here to rate your dick blah blah blah.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>And then she'd be like, for a girth, it's a.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Four point five, it's too and then she'd give an

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>analysis at the end. You have to work on this

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and maybe fluff it before you send me the next picture. Okay,

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I see later and blow kiss. And I think they

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 2>were paying like maybe twenty five dollars a pop, and

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.720
<v Speaker 2>she was getting all these guys sending.

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Her these pictures.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Now, if you're a small guy. I mean, well some

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>guys are into that, though, guys the rate them, I mean,

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I you know. But yes, she was making like we

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 2>were watching I think we were watching a movie and

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I'd heard ding and she'd go, oh, got to do

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this video. Hold on, it takes two seconds.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And she'd literally be like hey, blah blah blah, and

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like how much.

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just made twenty five dollars and I'm like, ah, okay,

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and it kept going off. So she was making money

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>hand over foot with this gig. And again, I don't

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>throw stones. If you're comfortable with doing this, then more

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 2>power to you. I was not. I was a nervous

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>wreck on there. I got a DM and I would

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 2>freak out. I'm like, oh my god, I'm afraid to

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>open it, like what is in there? It just wasn't

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>my cup of tea. So I'm not looking down on

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>people for doing this. It's just not something I wanted

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to do. But for her, she was flourishing with this stuff,

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and she would she would text me like pictures of

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>her bank account and like all the money she was making.

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And in ten days I made X amount of dollars

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, ten days, what crazy? It was crazy money,

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 2>crazy money.

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Now I remember, I remember the promotion. It was pretty

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 3>pretty out there.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And some people would say, well, is it worth

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 2>your integrity?

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it worth your dignity?

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean to some people, I guess it is. To

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 2>me it was, And again, different story. I'm a parent,

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm a mother, I got children. I don't want to

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 2>do that type of content, so it's it's different. But

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 2>for I guess for a single female who didn't have

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 2>anybody and you know, was okay and comfortable with showing

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 2>their body, she was, oh my gosh, she was making.

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So much money.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so money wasn't the problem here for her.

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Everything else was. It was never money. She always had.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 2>She was always comfortable at this point until the ship

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 2>hit the fan.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well we'll get into the wrap up portion

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 3>here in the final comments. All right, so here we go,

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 3>pick it back up.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:46.959
<v Speaker 2>We got to sit down. It's been a while since

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>we at that money really talked.

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 4>And you got the first podcast they usually got. You

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 4>got the first one.

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I broke the news about how jail's not really that

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 2>bad still.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it sucks, but when you're there, you

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 4>just have to find ways to make the best of it. Yeah,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 4>well you I'm on the phone all you know when

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 4>if I'm not at work, I'm on the phone all day.

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 4>Or I'll play cards, or I'll watch TV. And oh god,

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 4>I read thirty two Michael Connolly books while I was there.

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Who's my your favorite author? But you know, you just

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 4>like it's it does suck, but you just have to

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 4>make the best of it.

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Can you go on the internet when you're there?

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 4>No, we didn't have internet. Some some places do, but

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 4>we didn't.

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you don't have a phone, right they take

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>your phone?

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you can't have a cell phone. There's actually

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 4>but the only thing you can use this old fashioned

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>payphones and they're only like polls and like order that. Like, no,

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 4>you don't put quarters in everything's like like a you

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 4>can need to call collect or put money on a

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 4>debit account and its so Yeah, it's just a lot

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 4>of phone calls and a lot of reading and television

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 4>and if you if you're lucky enough to get a job,

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 4>that keeps you busy. But yeah, jail sucks. You Just

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 4>like like I said, you just have to learn how

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 4>to make the best of it, right, and then there's

0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.399
<v Speaker 4>commissary food you can order and buy, so you can

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 4>get like food and you can cook and make different things.

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.399
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, so I did that a lot. I spend

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of money on commissary food because the food

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 4>feed you is disgusting.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Well you have that only fans money to spend, so

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>you buy lobs r g ol.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>It's all good.

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 4>There's a limit one hundred and fifty dollars a week,

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 4>so you have to really be careful.

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, but I was.

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I was ordering like tuna packs, chicken packs, making you know,

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 4>as much as I could doing, you know, doing what

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 4>you can. We have a microwave so you can cook.

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 4>So you just got to make the best of it

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 4>and hope your time goes by fast. But luckily, no more,

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:31.959
<v Speaker 4>no more.

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I'm going to keep you in check.

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you will.

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, strip can come out, obviously, but I honestly

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm thrilled that you're home and happy, and I just

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>hope for nothing but the best. I hope bigger and

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>better things come. And screw everybody who is a hater

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 2>because oh.

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hey, you know what I always said, I love

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 4>my haters because they're the best form of free publicity.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 4>The more they hate and the more they talk, the

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 4>more it keeps your relevant. And they don't even realize it.

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 1>They want to.

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 4>They can hate as much as possible because if it

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.959
<v Speaker 4>keeps them talking, it just keeps your name out there.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 4>I got it, And they don't even realize that. The

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 4>more they if they want to talk shit about OnlyFans

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, all it's gonna do is spark interest in

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 4>somebody that hears it and say, ooh, what's this about,

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 4>and they're gonna go on and subscribe. So hate all

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 4>you want, right, I'm going to have you back on

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 4>because you and I have a project.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say what it is.

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.799
<v Speaker 2>But besides the signing, we have a project coming up

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.879
<v Speaker 2>that I haven't announced it yet because I didn't even

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 2>read my contract.

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't even get either.

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read it tonight. Yeah, let's read it tonight

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and compare notes on it.

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's gonna be a lot of fun,

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to spend a significant amount of time

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>together on that as well.

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a good time that I'm looking forward to.

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's gonna be fun.

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for choosing us to uh to break the

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:52.439
<v Speaker 2>news that.

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Your ross is going to be so pissed because he

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 4>always gets the first one.

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Jim, Yeah, you can take the first one.

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 4>So he's kind of he's probably I'm probably gonna get

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 4>a text from him being like, well.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Tell him I love him because he's a good man.

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 2>But I love you. I love and yes, I know

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you do. And just stay on the the right path

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and and do good and be good and you will

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>get good as.

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Long as you don't get behind the wheel of a car.

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to gouber your friend. It's in your phone.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Just push the button. You'll be You'll be fine.

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh that every time I hear that last line from her,

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I get the goosebumps wow, because that's exactly what happened, foreshadowing.

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.959
<v Speaker 3>As Yeah, that's quite the uh oh my god, quite

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the look into the future with that comment. Now, obviously

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe the project you guys were working on

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 3>came to fruition. But did that have to do with

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 3>what happened with her or did it just fall through?

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 2>No, it was a movie. Okay, we were booked for

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>a movie, the a Z movie. But a movie nonetheless,

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I decided to back out of I didn't like the

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 2>contract that I was given and I didn't want to

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>do it. We had another project we were supposed to do.

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>We were doing a virtual together. We were supposed to

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>do like a virtual from her apartment and sell like

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.439
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of merchandise together. That never happened. A bunch

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 2>of things we had bookings after this, and none of

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:35.479
<v Speaker 2>it happened because unfortunately, shortly after this was filmed, the

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Florida incident happened. So but honestly, like if you watch this,

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I believe that you can see that I was being

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.759
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent genuine in everything that I said to her.

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't me blowing smoke up her ass, It wasn't

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 2>me trying to appease her. I feel like I was

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 2>just trying to be a friend who loves her and

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 2>is just trying to be a positive staple in her

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 2>life at that point, because I honestly don't feel like

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 2>she had a lot of positive.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>People to fall back on, right Yeah, And that's.

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Where I get so frustrated with all of this, and

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 2>that's why I get upset, and you know, for her

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 2>to be upset with me now because of the way

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel. If I ever saw her again, I'd say

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it again, it's because I love her. If I didn't

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 2>give two crap or shits about her, I wouldn't feel

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 2>the way I felt or the way I feel about her.

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't care, you know what I mean. But I

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 2>think because I care so much. This is why I'm

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 2>so frustrated. And if she can't see how much did

0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I care about her and how much I love her, then,

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 2>my god, I don't even know what.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Else to say.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's tough love.

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's again, I'm not appeasing. You know.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I can't enable somebody. I can't do it, and it

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>makes me sick that this was the outcome. It literally

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:23.320
<v Speaker 2>makes me sick to my stomach.

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>So well, since I'm sorry, you're also since we recorded

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 3>the part one, a couple of things came out earlier

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 3>in the week. I believe it was the twenty one

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 3>of December. Her public defender filed for a reduction of sentence.

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 3>They appealed an appeal, yes, excuse me, an appeal for

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 3>the reduction of sentence. Her mugshot or official prison photo

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 3>was released.

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't see that.

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh you didn't see that. That was also that same day. Obviously,

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 3>this is I'll show to you here, but you know

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.319
<v Speaker 3>you'll be able to see it if you google it.

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:10.439
<v Speaker 3>That's the official prison photo. But then another interesting thing

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 3>yesterday it was as we're recording this, it was released

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 3>that the official day of her release from prison is

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.760
<v Speaker 3>January seventh, twenty forty.

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow, if she serves, if.

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 3>She serves the full max what she was sentenced to

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 3>in November twenty forty. January seventh, twenty forty wow.

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Feteen years though, that's that's more time, Okay, so it

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 2>says here, wait, twenty twenty four.

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a little over sixteen years, isn't it.

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.839
<v Speaker 3>The sentence was for seventeen point six years after being

0:55:57.840 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 3>found guilty in the death of seventy five year old

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Julian Lesson while driving under the influence.

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she got credit for the time that she

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:08.720
<v Speaker 2>already spent in jail, so it came down to fifteen something.

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just reading what I have started.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Exact, but what I mean, it's it's a long time.

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the that was released that that was the

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.439
<v Speaker 3>official date.

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 2>So well, and then we don't know about the other

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 2>new Jersey stuff or is it pa I don't even know.

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 3>It was both, but we don't know about any of

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.399
<v Speaker 3>that and how that could still come up. What we've

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 3>learned through our legal process while posting a lot of

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 3>these videos, she can still be brought up on those

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:45.479
<v Speaker 3>charges while incarcerated, and.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That that could add to it at the end. Yeah,

0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:50.080
<v Speaker 2>good lord.

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, kids, do good. Just don't go to jail.

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, we said in part one, you know

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to be able to learn so much

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:05.479
<v Speaker 3>about it, so stay out of there.

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. I mean, this is half the stuff she said.

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a party is going on. But I'm

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 2>telling you right now, I just don't think she was

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>being one hundred percent honest. And it's a place that

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I never want myself for anybody that I love to experience.

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So it's heartbreaking all around.

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And that's that. All right. Well, we'll get out

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.960
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