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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, It is the Queen of these between nineteen and.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Eyes up Here in the Ipart

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Speaker 2: Rating Network.

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Speaker 1: Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: As always, I am joined by the who Who's Chad

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Speaker 2: and Chad.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Could you believe it? I cannot unreal. How's your New

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Speaker 1: Year ago?

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Speaker 3: It was great? Yeah, I think it was wonderful. But

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Speaker 3: you know what I got to feel in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four is gonna be the year of Eyes up Here.

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Speaker 2: It's a little line.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, tell it you didn't know it? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's good. I think I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 2: I had a great New Year's Eve I did signed

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Speaker 2: by Superstars. That was crazy and if you didn't watch it,

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Speaker 2: you missed out. It's always a party over there. The

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Speaker 2: third year in a row that I did it.

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Speaker 1: We sold a lot of March nott.

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Speaker 2: A eight x tens, drank a lot of booze.

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Speaker 1: It was a good time.

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Speaker 3: So my favorite part is just going in and out.

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Speaker 3: So I'll check in and you'll be like going off

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Speaker 3: about one thing and laughing hysterically, and then I'll tap

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Speaker 3: out for a couple of minutes and come back. It'd

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Speaker 3: be the exact same thing when you go back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just a little more shift faced than

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Speaker 2: I was five minutes prior.

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Speaker 1: So it's always a good time.

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Speaker 2: I like it, and so we'll probably do it again

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 1: But it's good.

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Speaker 2: So happy twenty twenty four everyone. We had such a

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Speaker 2: good response to last week's podcast about Tommy Sitch and

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Speaker 2: her last interview, we decided to do a second part

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Speaker 2: and we only got through about sixteen minutes because I

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Speaker 2: was so fired up and I had so much to say.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much we'll get through today,

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Speaker 2: but we're going to try to finish it off. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that everybody enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to learn. This is definitely not

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Speaker 3: as like this is a little more light, which I

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Speaker 3: think we need a little bit of levity in between

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Speaker 3: the craziness that is this story, which we'll it's going

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Speaker 3: to tap back into it towards the end of it,

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Speaker 3: but this next portion, at least you got there's a

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Speaker 3: little more context to the relationship you guys had, which

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Speaker 3: I think is super important to learn as we also

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Speaker 3: dive back into this topic again, is your relationship with

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Speaker 3: her and the not even reship, the friendship that you

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Speaker 3: guys had. This is where I think we're gonna we're

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Speaker 3: learning a little bit more about that.

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Speaker 2: And this is where the backlash started after we posted this,

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Speaker 2: because people were like, how could you sit there and

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Speaker 2: laugh and tell stories? And it's like, you know, at

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Speaker 2: this point, again, I'm gonna say it, the Florida incident

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Speaker 2: did not happen. Okay. I never made light of anything

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Speaker 2: that happened prior. I told her fifty times how wrong

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Speaker 2: straight and narrow and blah blah blah. So I didn't

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Speaker 2: want this whole interview to be doom and gloom. I

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Speaker 2: this was the first time I sat down with her

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Speaker 2: and did something like this, so I thought it would

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Speaker 2: fans how we developed our relationship and things that we

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Speaker 2: we formed and the friendship that we created. I didn't

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Speaker 2: think there was anything wrong with that, but apparently a

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Speaker 2: people on YouTube when we aired this. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people just hammering me for, you know, posting something light

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Speaker 2: hearted in this interview when I should just be focusing

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Speaker 2: I sitting here laughing with her and having a good time.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you can be the judge of that.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it would.

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Speaker 2: Be nice to just explain, because you know what, when

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Speaker 2: you have a friend on, that's what you do. How

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Speaker 2: did we meet? Do you remember the first time we met?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when we first worked together? I just

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not not tredamus. I don't know the future,

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Speaker 2: you know. I I couldn't have predicted what happened. What

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Speaker 2: of course I'm going to try and turn it into

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Speaker 2: so you can be the judge.

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Speaker 3: Well, we have an update too on her status since

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Speaker 3: we recorded this part one, there is an update. I

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's really been two updates since the recording

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Speaker 3: But ok yeah, I'm ready to dive into it if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 3: All right, So again, if you need to stop me,

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Speaker 3: raise your hand or say schmuck, oh stop the tape.

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Speaker 2: I'll just raise my hand.

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Speaker 3: Okay, please thank you for not insulting me. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Es.

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Speaker 3: Actually, the New Year knew me. I was gonna say

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Speaker 3: New Year that we just will go in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was thrilled when I heard you were done. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and because you know you and I. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't even remember what year we met, but I remember

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Speaker 2: the first night I met you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember the first night we met,

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Speaker 2: It was at the arena and I was I don't

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Speaker 2: know who I was walking with, but I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, walking this way.

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Speaker 2: You were walking this way, okay, And I remember everybody

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Speaker 2: warning me about you, don't be friends with her, don't

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Speaker 2: And you know, for me, I have to like, I

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Speaker 1: That's the way I look at things, right me too.

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Speaker 2: So you're coming this way, and all in the back

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Speaker 2: of my head, I just keep hearing don't be friends

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Speaker 1: And was like, I've been wanting to meet you.

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Speaker 2: And I said, and I've been wanting to meet you,

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Speaker 1: We were doing something, okay, And and I like, I

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, if you were

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Speaker 4: You know I am, but not to everybody.

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Speaker 1: But we're all a bitch in a sense. We all

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Speaker 2: But I mean we I thought we clicked right then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: That happened one percent. I remember it like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The anxiety that the boys gave me about this girl

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Speaker 2: she's she's im for that, you know your position, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was one person, only Chris, because obviously,

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Speaker 2: blah blah. Every single other person in that locker room

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Speaker 2: And I was just like sitting there like wow, all

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Speaker 2: But with Tammy up until like this whole debacle happened,

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Speaker 2: we never fought. We never had anything bad to say

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Speaker 2: I love this girl and got.

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Speaker 1: Along with her.

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Speaker 2: Never once did she stiff me. Never did I stiff her,

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Speaker 2: So every single person who buried her to me, in

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Speaker 2: negative interactions with her in the past, but I never did.

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Speaker 2: And I will say that every single time I talk

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Speaker 2: So let's just put that out there.

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Speaker 3: And this is before she's full blown there, correct, This

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Speaker 3: is just when she's coming as Chris's girlfriend Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: She might have been starting with us at this point.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember, And maybe maybe she wasn't like I

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Speaker 2: this was just she was hanging out. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: if she actually did anything like I remember one night

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Speaker 2: said on the in the Eagle's Nest, like on the.

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Speaker 1: Top helping Paul. I don't I don't.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but she wasn't like part of

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Speaker 2: at this point she was released, because I think she was.

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Speaker 2: She was coming when she was I think she was

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Speaker 2: still working, yeah, and she would come and I don't

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Speaker 2: so it must have been before she was even with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she she said she help Paul at the pay

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Speaker 3: per view. She helped Paul barely legal in ninety seven,

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Speaker 3: and I don't believe they released her until mid ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so it had to be before she was

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Speaker 2: what she did behind closed doors, but that didn't affect me, right,

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Speaker 2: I that was none of my business I had. You know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't my business. So you know, if she came

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Speaker 2: I wasn't included in that. So and again a lot

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Speaker 1: And I can honestly.

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Speaker 3: Right, picking a bag up, And I.

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Speaker 1: Always tell people, like everybody's like, how is Tammy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I've been friends with her for twenty

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Speaker 1: I've never had an argument, like a real argument with you.

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Speaker 2: No, like we've bickered about stupid bullshit, but nothing but

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Speaker 4: A fight, not like you have.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know why you have such a bad reputation.

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Speaker 4: I think because when it comes to business, I can

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Speaker 4: You know, he was a horrible businessman, nicest guy in

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Speaker 4: that's all right, and I'm like, no, that's not okay.

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Speaker 4: I would have to get in the promoter's face and

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Speaker 4: So I got that reputation of being, you know, in

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Speaker 3: But there was I want to ask a question about that.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's all that had to do with

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Speaker 2: No, And while she was saying that, it brought me

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Speaker 2: It's like, I said to him, why do you have

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Speaker 2: when it comes to promoters, I don't let them take

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Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of the boys that didn't like him,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't I didn't work for them. I wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: So I you know, are these stories true, are they

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Speaker 2: much respect for Candido, and they didn't like the way

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Speaker 2: that she treated Chris. So I understand what she's saying

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Speaker 2: business wise, just like I understood what Bubba was saying

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Speaker 2: business wise. And honestly, if a promoter says I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: whether there's one ticket sold or one thousand tickets sold.

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Speaker 2: You know, like we never go if you worked at

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Speaker 2: but they didn't sell anything, and you think that guy's

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Speaker 1: No, that's not the way it works.

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Speaker 2: You know, this business is crazy because people think they

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Speaker 2: like her. I do know Chris.

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Speaker 1: Was like that.

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Speaker 2: He was wishy washy because he loved working. He would

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Speaker 2: have worked for free, but that's not how you make

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Speaker 2: Tammy wants the money. And I'm on tammy side for

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Speaker 2: that because I'm not going to go out and I'm

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Speaker 2: So one hundred percent I'm on her side with that.

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Speaker 1: But I do.

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Speaker 2: Feel like it's not everything. That's not the full reason.

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Speaker 2: That's just a little bit. And maybe that's just the

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Speaker 3: So I'm just picturing her getting heavy on dapper Johnny

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Speaker 2: Look, she said it. She could be a real bitch,

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Speaker 2: and when it comes to money, I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: a real bitch too, And I'm sure you could be

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Speaker 2: a real bitch if it comes down to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if your promise something, you should get it.

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Speaker 2: It's just common courtesy. It's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: So you know, when when think of it this way,

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Speaker 2: if you're the promoter, it's just like when they send

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Speaker 2: a deposit out and then oh, I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: but you know, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just going to keep the money. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: No, that's one hundred percent wrong. So coming in for

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Speaker 2: seven fifty but getting paid three hundred dollars, that's like

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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's not there, right, Yeah, that's a big that's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like it's wrong on both accounts. Like

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Speaker 2: have tried to screw wrestlers over for years and it's

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Speaker 2: just bad business. So I applaud Tammy for wearing the

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Speaker 3: His money agreed all right, picking back up.

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Speaker 4: So many people I had to get in their face

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Speaker 2: Sort of worked for Yeah, Chris would work for free,

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Speaker 2: like he just loved the business so much it he

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Speaker 4: Twenty thousand dollars guarantee, and of the guy would say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 4: I can't pay it, and I can I get you

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Speaker 4: it's like no, So I would have to be the voice.

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Speaker 4: So I got that reputation of being a bitch. But

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Speaker 4: when it comes to you, when it comes to business,

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Speaker 4: business is business, and you're not going to screw me

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Speaker 4: or anybody. I love over but you know, but other

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Speaker 4: than that, I think I'm pretty easy going.

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Speaker 1: I listen, we've worked together so.

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Speaker 2: Many times, I know, and there was never a moment

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Speaker 2: where either of us got hurt.

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Speaker 1: No, we after our asses off under our air.

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Speaker 4: Pop off.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you remember that? Yes, Chad, do

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Speaker 1: you know what she's talking about?

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Speaker 3: I think we have talked about it before, but.

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Speaker 2: Please we so, Tammy and I frequented the Fetish Factory and.

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh I was just there last year and then

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Speaker 4: it's not there anymore.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't think it's open anymore.

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Speaker 4: For it it was it was this place.

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Speaker 2: It was expensive too. I don't know how we found it,

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Speaker 4: I thought we just drove by it and saw it

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Speaker 4: and said, oh, let's stop bondage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We thought it'd just be like cool clothes, and it

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was like sex stuff. It was.

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Speaker 4: It was this crazy masks, like zippers across the mounts.

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Speaker 2: Like gas mask and they had whips and changing.

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Speaker 1: But remember when you first walked in there were the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so here we go, Chad like, she and I

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Speaker 4: think we're gonna find some cool clothes for work. And

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Speaker 4: like you guys, like, hey, ladies, how you do? And

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Speaker 4: we're like it was such a creep too. So so

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Speaker 4: Franny's looking through this rack of rubber clothing and she

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Speaker 4: zipper up the front and a full zipper.

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Speaker 1: Up the back.

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Speaker 4: I didn't find anything I like, but she's like, I

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Speaker 1: It was like a murder. It was a gown. It

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was long, long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was long.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it like a reddish color?

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Speaker 2: It was red? Yes, it was hot red. It was

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Speaker 2: like a red lipstick, like I what the call? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So she buys this dress.

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Speaker 2: I bought this dress and I bring it to the

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Speaker 2: know that that clip would make it ten shows. We had.

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Speaker 4: We had to run in on Bam Bam Bigelow. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't even remember the setup, but please, I don't

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Speaker 4: remember the whole thing. But we had to run in

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Speaker 4: Then you come running in and he's supposed to scoop

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Speaker 4: to have both of us up here. Now I'm already

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Speaker 4: you come running, you put one knee upon the apron

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Speaker 4: to get up. Back zipper popiack whole thing you see, no.

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Speaker 1: Braw one and I have the microthong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this dress you couldn't wear a bra with it.

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Speaker 2: And I had on the tiniest song I think I

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Speaker 1: Was going to pop off, and it was.

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Speaker 2: It was legit rubber, like rubber, like a tire rubber.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the tightest outfits I've ever worn

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Speaker 2: zipper did pop open because I think instead of I think,

441
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: it zipped downward instead of zipping upward. So the way

442
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: I put my leg up, the zipper just went up

443
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 2: and went out. So it looked like I was wearing

444
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: an apron that wasn't tied, so the whole If you

445
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: saw me from the back, I was almost completely naked

446
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: except for this tiny thong, and I made sure to

447
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: hold the front against my breast because I didn't have

448
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: a brown Bam BAM's face was pure terror.

449
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: It just looked at me like what is going on?

450
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: And I just looked at him.

451
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: I was just like just I think I said something

452
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: like just me up. I was mortified, mortified, and like

453
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: I remember jumping, you know, getting on his shoulder and

454
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: looking at Tammy and she just said you're naked, and

455
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: I was like I know.

456
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: And you could see.

457
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: Us hysterical laughing as were, and then Shane comes out

458
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: and he drops us. He Honest to god, I think

459
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: it was played for ten weeks straight, like ten weeks ago,

460
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: and you see WTV.

461
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: Here I come.

462
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: When I went into the back, I got a standing ovation.

463
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: I was mortified, absolutely mortified, and I don't think I

464
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: ever wore that dress again. So four hundred dollars down

465
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: the dream honestly terrible.

466
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: We agreed with a towel.

467
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: No, I was literally just kind of like holding I

468
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: was trying to hold the dress in place, you know,

469
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: and maybe Atlas helped me cover me. I don't even

470
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: remember how I got out of the arena that day,

471
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: but good lord, that was like one of the it's

472
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: the pile driver. When my boobs actually came completely out.

473
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: That was like the worst malfunctioned wardrobe malfunction I've ever

474
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: had in my life. It was so bad, crazy, and

475
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: it's one. It's got to be on YouTube.

476
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 3: I think I've seen it, yeah, on Twitter shared, No,

477
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: probably fairly recently.

478
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think somebody, I think they did tweet

479
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: to me because I said worst wardrobe malfunctioning.

480
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: Whoa the driver is the worst one.

481
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, thanks for reminding me about that one.

482
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Too, terrible. So yeah, so that's that's what we're talking

483
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: about here.

484
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 4: Like me, pick a back up, Yeah, gets in the ring,

485
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: gets up to Bammer and as he's picking her up,

486
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: onto her shoulder front zipper pops open.

487
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: No no no, no no no yeah.

488
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 4: And you're starting to hold it closed. And I'm already

489
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 4: up on his shoulder and I look over and I

490
00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: just lost it. I just know you your name kick.

491
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: Laughing and bam BAM's face like he looked like he

492
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: shipped a brick in his pants, like he didn't know

493
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: what to do.

494
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: And I was here, we are, but both them Bambam's

495
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: shoulders supposed to be afraid for our life. He's about

496
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: to kill us at think or just crack up. She's

497
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: naked on his shoulder with a little piece of rubber

498
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: like she's trying to cover her boobs with the rubber

499
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: the whole back time.

500
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: The sime Ever wore that four hundred dollars dress.

501
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: Thank god, because what happened again, that is awful.

502
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: You know what my favorite spot is I think that

503
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: we ever did. I think it was in Buffalo. I

504
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: think it was the Burt Flickinger Center. I don't know

505
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: why this is popping in n I don't remember the

506
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: name of that ever, the Burt Flickinger Center, because it

507
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: had it was a cool building and it had like

508
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: the bleachers went all the way up, but the entrance way,

509
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: the entranceway was in the middle, and then there were

510
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: two bleachers here. And I don't remember the match at all,

511
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: but I remember for some reason, I went to the

512
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: back and we worked it out before and you and

513
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: Chris were supposed to grab me. Shane is still in

514
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: the ring, and I remember saying to Chris, go get

515
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: a knife.

516
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember this, No, they aired it. I said,

517
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: get some kind of a.

518
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: Knife, even if it's a butter knife, because it'll be hysterical,

519
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: I said. And and like Tammy, or you can hold

520
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: me and the other person can put a knife to

521
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: my throat.

522
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't remember this.

523
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and we did it. And it aired.

524
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this must have been one of the

525
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: drunk years.

526
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: Don't.

527
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: Well.

528
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: I went back and then we come out and Joey's like,

529
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, Chris and Sonny.

530
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: You have fancied it. And it's like, I'm gonna good job.

531
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to watch this clip.

532
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't remember a minute.

533
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: When she says this month must have been one of

534
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: the drunk years. Like I can honestly say I've never

535
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: worked with her while she was in nibriyant It in

536
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: the ECW.

537
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Never.

538
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: The only time I saw her like they said she

539
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: was drinking was for wew Okay. And that was the

540
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: night and it was reported all over the internet. That's

541
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: the night that she was supposed to drive myself and Cindy.

542
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Cindy snow she was supposed to Bobcat. She was supposed

543
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: to drive us back to our hotel. And you know,

544
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: it was were we at the Electric Factory. It's not

545
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: the best neighborhood, and so we're in this parking lot

546
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: in our gimmick clothes and Tammy's never showing up right,

547
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: and we're just standing there and it was like for

548
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: forty minutes, we're like where the hell is this girl?

549
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: And that's the night.

550
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you ever heard the story

551
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: that she they found her wandering in the graveyard.

552
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I ever heard that she was drunk.

553
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: And wandering around.

554
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: And thank god, I think it was either Stephen DeAngelis

555
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: or maybe it was Ronnie Lang.

556
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: They were like, girls, what are you doing? You're in

557
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: your gimmick clothes. We were like, we were.

558
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: Supposed to get picked up by Tammy, but now we

559
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: don't know where she is and nobody knew, Like we

560
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: didn't find out what happened to her until the day after.

561
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: So like that whole night, I'm pissed off. I'm like, I.

562
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: Can't believe she left me here in this parking lot,

563
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: in my gimmick outfit, in this bad neighborhood, like.

564
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, very.

565
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: Scared, very alone. It was dark, it was like eleven

566
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: thirty at night, and yeah, that's what happened to her.

567
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: And then we got not a fight but a disagreement

568
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: because she swears that I told her she was getting

569
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: paid five hundred dollars right I had booked her. I

570
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: mean it was like maybe two three days before the show,

571
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: and it was Dan Kahle and dance like the only

572
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: thing left in the budget is one hundred and fifty bucks.

573
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: And I told her. I was like, they have one

574
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars and she's like, well, that's better

575
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: than nothing. And I said, okay, come on down, you know.

576
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: And then she's like, where's my five hundred dollars. I

577
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: was like, what five hundred dollars? I never said five

578
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: hundred dollars, so, you know, little little disagreement. But I

579
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: think the girls were like, she's drinking vodka and I

580
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know. So if you watch the

581
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: tape of that night, I think like people were saying

582
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: she was slewing her words and stuff like that. But

583
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: that's when she disappeared and they found her in the graveyard.

584
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: A place to be found. Now, maybe she just hit

585
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: it very well. Maybe she was drinking and just hit it.

586
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Never yeah, I never knew if she was, you know.

587
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they were taking pills because back then,

588
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: the somas were the thing, and the Soma shakes, and

589
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: I never took suma's, Like, don't time I ever took

590
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: some is I think in my life. It was that

591
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: story that I told when we were at the tens

592
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: and she put like four or five of them in

593
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: my hand and dummy me. I was drunk and I

594
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, and I took them. But that's

595
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: the only time I've ever taken them. And thank god,

596
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: you know, I woke up the next morning like a

597
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: good lord, you know who takes those things like that?

598
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: But that's what they were taking. So I didn't really

599
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: know about the drinking at this point, but apparently, like

600
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: later on in life, she told me, like, yeah, I

601
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: took pills, she said, but I loved I'm an alcoholic.

602
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I love my drinks.

603
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: Terrible. And we will pick this one up after these messages.

604
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: All right, get ready to pick it back up here.

605
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: We are going to wrap up the fun year or

606
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: the fun times of ECW before we move into the

607
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: next part. So I'm gonna let it play here for

608
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: another minute and let me know if you need me

609
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: to sid.

610
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: In.

611
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Like, it was never work, like I always tell people,

612
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: I never felt like I was at work or at

613
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: a job right because it was always fun. It was

614
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: never a chore. Even if I had an early flight,

615
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: I didn't care. I the cantym was on when.

616
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: I got home.

617
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to go back, yeah, and see everybody

618
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: and hang out and work because it was just a

619
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: good time, man.

620
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing.

621
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you worked all over the place,

622
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: and I've never had that feeling anywhere else. It's never

623
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: been the same, and I've never even come close to it.

624
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: And it was a lot of fun being on the

625
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: road at that time with that crew because everybody it

626
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: was kind of like a big happy family and everybody

627
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: kind of looked out for each other rights and stuff

628
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, sure, you know, but we always we

629
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: always managed.

630
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: To have some kind of fun. It was never felt

631
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: like work, No, not at all. I mean when the

632
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: checks were bounced and that.

633
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Sucked, that sucked, yeah, yes, but we were still enjoying

634
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: ourselves as much as.

635
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: We could so making the best of it.

636
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

637
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: But but I've said it, you know, I've said for

638
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: the last twenty five years or whatever, I've always enjoyed

639
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: you always.

640
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: I can't.

641
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: There's not a bad thing entering out of the ring

642
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: that I can say, you know what I mean, Personally,

643
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: our connection it's always been strong. I'm thrilled that things

644
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: seem to be going right for you because they were

645
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: now Yeah, and I always you know, I say, people

646
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: want to see you fail?

647
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Of course they and it bothers me. And it's like,

648
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: why would you wish something like that on someone?

649
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: Because people are assholes. There's so many people in the world,

650
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They don't like to see

651
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: someone succeed. They like misery loves company, and people love

652
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: to see people fail.

653
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: Well I don't. I like to see my friends thrive.

654
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: And I want you to thrive. I want you to blossom.

655
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: And and you know you you've been caged up for

656
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: so long, the last I don't even know how many.

657
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: Five years of probation in and out for stupid ship.

658
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah right, but that's all done.

659
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: It's all done as they have no control over me,

660
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: and that can't get in trouble for you know, anything anymore.

661
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: So it's good. And I'm not trying any So it's

662
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: not I don't drink anymore. I don't drink any more,

663
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: drinking driving anymore. So you're focusing on you, Yes, I'm

664
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: looking at look at me.

665
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: You're focusing on you, okay, because we've talked about this earlier.

666
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I saw a tweat from you that that I'm very.

667
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: Haunting words by one Queen of extreme This irritates me.

668
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: I just got chills listening to this. This This is

669
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: really really irritating because you can see I'm trying to

670
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: get a point across, you know what I mean.

671
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Like you can see.

672
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm not just being like, Okay, Tammy, blah blah blah.

673
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm stopping her and saying, Okay, this is what you

674
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: need to do, you know. And what I'm referring to is,

675
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: you know, make good choices, pick good men, no more drinking,

676
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: stick to it, you know what I mean, Like even

677
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: if you had to join a program. I know she

678
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: went to like the rehabs and the sober house and

679
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: all that, but apparently that didn't work for her, you know.

680
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: And I said it before, it's who you run with.

681
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: It's the gang that you're with. And she just had

682
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: a tendency to just pick the worst friggin men. It's

683
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: just I don't know, man. And and then people got

684
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: mad at me for saying that, Well, you can't blame

685
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: the people that she was with. You have to blame her.

686
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: I do blame her in a sense, but it's it's

687
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: who you run with too. You have to have a

688
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: support system, a good support system. And you know, I

689
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: wasn't with her twenty four to seven, and from her

690
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: talking to me there, I honestly thought, she's not gonna drink.

691
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: This is great. She's gonna never go to jail again.

692
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: I believe that for her. So at this point, do

693
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: I have to check in with her every five minutes

694
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: to make sure she's okay? I didn't think so. And

695
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: I think anybody watching this can tell she looks healthy.

696
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, don't you think so?

697
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

698
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: I thought she you know, she looked great and very healthy,

699
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: and she seemed I mean, I didn't like the way

700
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: she kept downgrading, like I got arrested for stupid shit. No,

701
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: it's not stupid. Everything that you did justifyed you being arrested.

702
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: Like let's you know, let's call Spada spade there. Okay,

703
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't agree with what she said there. I did

704
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: honestly think that this was it for her and things

705
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: were going to go really well. And you know, she

706
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: was just telling me, and you'll hear it. She was

707
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: telling me all this good stuff that was happening and

708
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: how much money that she accumulated, and she sent me

709
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: pictures of her apartment and it was just gorgeous and

710
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: overlooked New York City, and I mean, everything was going great.

711
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just.

712
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: Turned so hearing this really gets under my skin and

713
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 2: it makes me so upset because I would have bet

714
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: money that she was going to be okay. And do

715
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: you know how many people said, oh, just wait for it,

716
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: she's going to screw up, just wait for it. Oh yeah,

717
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: my friends, friends that mutual friends, Oh, she's gonna screw up.

718
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, don't say that, Like say a prayer

719
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: for you know, hope for the best. Oh, hope for

720
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: the best, expect the worst. And I'm just like, good lord,

721
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: everybody was saying she was going to fail. I didn't

722
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: talk to anyone who thought positive about her at this point,

723
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: and I'm not you know again, I'm not trying to

724
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: be a martyr. I'm not trying to say I'm the

725
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: only one who believed in her. But it kind of

726
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: seemed like it at the time, you know. And I

727
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: remember when really quickly. I remember when we were in

728
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: our hotel room at Russell Caid and we were just

729
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: getting ready, you know, putting our makeup on or whatever,

730
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: and we were talking about having best friends, and she

731
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: was like, well, who's your best friend? And I said, oh, Betty.

732
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: And I was telling her, you know, because Betty and

733
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: I have been friends now, I don't know, eight years,

734
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: nine years, something like that. And I was just telling

735
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 2: her how great Betty is and how she's my sister

736
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: and how close we are and blah blah blah. And

737
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: she looked at me and she's like, I need a

738
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: Betty in my life and I don't have anybody in

739
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: my life like that. I was just like, well, I said,

740
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: you got me, and she's like, yeah, but I don't

741
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: get to see you and you have the kids and

742
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: your husband and it's different and you know, and I

743
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: got where she was coming from. But when she said that,

744
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: that made me sad because it's like she's admitting to

745
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: me she doesn't have one person that she can count on,

746
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, And that's that's sad.

747
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: That's that's a sad revelation. So you know, I I

748
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: do have obligations. I am a mother, I am a wife,

749
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: I have my kids. I can't just drop things and

750
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: run to her every minute of the day. I can't

751
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: go places like she wanted me to travel with her

752
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: all the time, like, let's go let's go.

753
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: To Hawaii, Let's go here, let's get it.

754
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: I can't if I was single.

755
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, you.

756
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: Want to pay for my trip to Hawaii, I'll go

757
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 2: to Hawaii. But I can't just leave at the drop

758
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: of a hat. When you're a parent, your first responsibilities

759
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: to your children, and plus my mom was.

760
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Alive, Right, that's the big one, because you were much

761
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: more limited.

762
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't do anything back then. And even still nail

763
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: like I want to just pick up and leave my

764
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: kids for a week.

765
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't do that.

766
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: If we do anything, we take the kids with us,

767
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: you know. So it broke my heart to hear her

768
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: say that she didn't have a best friend like that,

769
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: and that made me sad. But again, you you know,

770
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: when you repeat something over and over and it's just

771
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: a negative thing and you don't learn from it, who

772
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: do you blame. You have to blame the person. You

773
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: have to take some responsibility for that.

774
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: Right, And we're going to dig into here a little

775
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: bit of her OnlyFans success that she was really I mean,

776
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean not on the ground floor of but she

777
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: was one of the biggest names I think to show

778
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: see success in the way she did, because it was

779
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: like every day somebody was talking about, hey did you

780
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: see this post that Tammy put up about her only fans?

781
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Or hey did you see she's given out this preview

782
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: of her only fans. And for the years and years

783
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: of speculation of was she going to do some sort

784
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: of adult content to then being like all in on it,

785
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: we kind of dive into it in this next little

786
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: piece here, which to me is if she decided to

787
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: stay on that straight and narrow path. I mean I

788
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: showed her to think how much money she really could

789
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: have made sticking with that.

790
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel because she was like one of

791
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: the first mainstream wrestling girls who went this rail, Like

792
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the girls had sights, but she was

793
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: really gun ho about it and she was doing more

794
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: than others, let's just put it that way, yes, And

795
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean at one point, I think she had like

796
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: one hundred grand in revenue in a short amount of time,

797
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: a very short amount of time. So you know, it's

798
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: it's like and I kept telling her, like, you have

799
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: all this money, don't drive do ubers. You can afford ubers,

800
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: Like if you relapse and you're drinking and you know

801
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: you have to do something. Call an uber. You can

802
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: afford the fifty bucks.

803
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna pick it up from here.

804
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: Strigued about I think you know what it is. But

805
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: if you don't, it's about your only fans, because you're

806
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: back on only fans.

807
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Now.

808
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: I did only it's amazing, it's only I did it.

809
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: And it was a disaster, I can just tell you,

810
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: because I don't show the goods and people got mad

811
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: at me. And you know, it was five months of

812
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: a lot of bagging and a lot of and it

813
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: just didn't It wasn't me right.

814
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: But you're you're you're doing wonderful.

815
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: But I saw a recent tweet looking for co stars

816
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: male or female?

817
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: What the fuck is going on? What are you?

818
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: And is this I'm gonna have to this.

819
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Is this a gimmick? What? What is?

820
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: What are you offering to these people?

821
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Because you're basically talking to the fans right now right?

822
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: What what is the What is the If I respond

823
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: and I say, Hey, Tammy, I'm a forty nine year

824
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: old female.

825
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: I get well, I'm just saying what what are you

826
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: writing me back? What are you offering me?

827
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: I am offering my members? Well A one member.

828
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: You have to be a member.

829
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: You have to be a member. And I'm not going

830
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 4: to just pick somebody off the street. I mean, when

831
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: these people are subscribing, you know what I mean. So

832
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let one of them have the chance. Yes, okay,

833
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: so one person to be in a photo shoot. Okay,

834
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: not necessarily saying that all kinds of crazy shit's gonna happen.

835
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: Sure be at the goddamn zoo looking at the lions,

836
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, who knows, you know? But

837
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: I think that I think the Internet has taken it

838
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 4: and run with it with their own story. It's not

839
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: like I'm looking for a like sexual co star kind

840
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 4: of thing giving someone an opportunity to be in some pictures.

841
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, look I I well, first of all,

842
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: this is a great platform to promote it, to get

843
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: some more members.

844
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: But I've already been sent some links to some Internet

845
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: sites that were like taking it and running with it. Well,

846
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: they always do like I'm casting for a porn own.

847
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you could work, and they would.

848
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: They would put the story as you know, she's got,

849
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: she's got, you know.

850
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Diase, there's someone ever, Oh my god, I think.

851
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: At this stage, she was only doing maybe nude photos.

852
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think she was still doing everything.

853
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: She wasn't doing the pornography with the boyfriend, because this

854
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: is what led to I think him coming on with her.

855
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly, possibly.

856
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: So maybe she was doing solo stuff.

857
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: I don't believe that was going on the whole time.

858
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I see, I don't know. I didn't see her page.

859
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: What I did see was the rate the dick pic thing,

860
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: rape my penis or whatever they called it. She did

861
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: those in the hotel and people would literally either send

862
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: in a photo or a video of their member and

863
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: she would be like, Hey, this is w w E

864
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: Diva or what she Hall of Famer sonny, and uh,

865
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, I'm here to rate your dick blah blah blah.

866
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: And then she'd be like, for a girth, it's a.

867
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: Four point five, it's too and then she'd give an

868
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: analysis at the end. You have to work on this

869
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: and maybe fluff it before you send me the next picture. Okay,

870
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: I see later and blow kiss. And I think they

871
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: were paying like maybe twenty five dollars a pop, and

872
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 2: she was getting all these guys sending.

873
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Her these pictures.

874
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: Now, if you're a small guy. I mean, well some

875
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: guys are into that, though, guys the rate them, I mean,

876
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: I you know. But yes, she was making like we

877
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: were watching I think we were watching a movie and

878
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: I'd heard ding and she'd go, oh, got to do

879
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: this video. Hold on, it takes two seconds.

880
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: And she'd literally be like hey, blah blah blah, and

881
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm like how much.

882
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I just made twenty five dollars and I'm like, ah, okay,

883
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: and it kept going off. So she was making money

884
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: hand over foot with this gig. And again, I don't

885
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: throw stones. If you're comfortable with doing this, then more

886
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: power to you. I was not. I was a nervous

887
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: wreck on there. I got a DM and I would

888
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: freak out. I'm like, oh my god, I'm afraid to

889
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: open it, like what is in there? It just wasn't

890
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: my cup of tea. So I'm not looking down on

891
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: people for doing this. It's just not something I wanted

892
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: to do. But for her, she was flourishing with this stuff,

893
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: and she would she would text me like pictures of

894
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: her bank account and like all the money she was making.

895
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: And in ten days I made X amount of dollars

896
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, ten days, what crazy? It was crazy money,

897
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: crazy money.

898
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: Now I remember, I remember the promotion. It was pretty

899
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: pretty out there.

900
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some people would say, well, is it worth

901
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: your integrity?

902
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: Is it worth your dignity?

903
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean to some people, I guess it is. To

904
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: me it was, And again, different story. I'm a parent,

905
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm a mother, I got children. I don't want to

906
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: do that type of content, so it's it's different. But

907
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: for I guess for a single female who didn't have

908
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: anybody and you know, was okay and comfortable with showing

909
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: their body, she was, oh my gosh, she was making.

910
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: So much money.

911
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so money wasn't the problem here for her.

912
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: Everything else was. It was never money. She always had.

913
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 2: She was always comfortable at this point until the ship

914
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: hit the fan.

915
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: All right, Well we'll get into the wrap up portion

916
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: here in the final comments. All right, so here we go,

917
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: pick it back up.

918
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 2: We got to sit down. It's been a while since

919
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: we at that money really talked.

920
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: And you got the first podcast they usually got. You

921
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: got the first one.

922
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: I broke the news about how jail's not really that

923
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: bad still.

924
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: Like you know, it sucks, but when you're there, you

925
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 4: just have to find ways to make the best of it. Yeah,

926
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: well you I'm on the phone all you know when

927
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: if I'm not at work, I'm on the phone all day.

928
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: Or I'll play cards, or I'll watch TV. And oh god,

929
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: I read thirty two Michael Connolly books while I was there.

930
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: Who's my your favorite author? But you know, you just

931
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: like it's it does suck, but you just have to

932
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: make the best of it.

933
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: Can you go on the internet when you're there?

934
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: No, we didn't have internet. Some some places do, but

935
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: we didn't.

936
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't have a phone, right they take

937
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: your phone?

938
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can't have a cell phone. There's actually

939
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: but the only thing you can use this old fashioned

940
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: payphones and they're only like polls and like order that. Like, no,

941
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: you don't put quarters in everything's like like a you

942
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: can need to call collect or put money on a

943
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: debit account and its so Yeah, it's just a lot

944
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: of phone calls and a lot of reading and television

945
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: and if you if you're lucky enough to get a job,

946
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: that keeps you busy. But yeah, jail sucks. You Just

947
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: like like I said, you just have to learn how

948
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: to make the best of it, right, and then there's

949
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 4: commissary food you can order and buy, so you can

950
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: get like food and you can cook and make different things.

951
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 4: And yeah, so I did that a lot. I spend

952
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: a lot of money on commissary food because the food

953
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: feed you is disgusting.

954
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Well you have that only fans money to spend, so

955
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: you buy lobs r g ol.

956
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: It's all good.

957
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: There's a limit one hundred and fifty dollars a week,

958
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: so you have to really be careful.

959
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, but I was.

960
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: I was ordering like tuna packs, chicken packs, making you know,

961
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: as much as I could doing, you know, doing what

962
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: you can. We have a microwave so you can cook.

963
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: So you just got to make the best of it

964
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: and hope your time goes by fast. But luckily, no more,

965
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 4: no more.

966
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm going to keep you in check.

967
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I know you will.

968
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, strip can come out, obviously, but I honestly

969
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled that you're home and happy, and I just

970
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: hope for nothing but the best. I hope bigger and

971
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: better things come. And screw everybody who is a hater

972
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: because oh.

973
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, you know what I always said, I love

974
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 4: my haters because they're the best form of free publicity.

975
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: The more they hate and the more they talk, the

976
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: more it keeps your relevant. And they don't even realize it.

977
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: They want to.

978
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: They can hate as much as possible because if it

979
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 4: keeps them talking, it just keeps your name out there.

980
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: I got it, And they don't even realize that. The

981
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: more they if they want to talk shit about OnlyFans

982
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: or whatever, all it's gonna do is spark interest in

983
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: somebody that hears it and say, ooh, what's this about,

984
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: and they're gonna go on and subscribe. So hate all

985
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: you want, right, I'm going to have you back on

986
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: because you and I have a project.

987
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what it is.

988
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: But besides the signing, we have a project coming up

989
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: that I haven't announced it yet because I didn't even

990
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: read my contract.

991
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: I don't even get either.

992
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it tonight. Yeah, let's read it tonight

993
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: and compare notes on it.

994
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be a lot of fun,

995
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: and we're going to spend a significant amount of time

996
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: together on that as well.

997
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: So that's that's a good time that I'm looking forward to.

998
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's gonna be fun.

999
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing us to uh to break the

1000
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 2: news that.

1001
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: Your ross is going to be so pissed because he

1002
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: always gets the first one.

1003
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: Jim, Yeah, you can take the first one.

1004
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 4: So he's kind of he's probably I'm probably gonna get

1005
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: a text from him being like, well.

1006
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: Tell him I love him because he's a good man.

1007
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: But I love you. I love and yes, I know

1008
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: you do. And just stay on the the right path

1009
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: and and do good and be good and you will

1010
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: get good as.

1011
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: Long as you don't get behind the wheel of a car.

1012
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to gouber your friend. It's in your phone.

1013
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Just push the button. You'll be You'll be fine.

1014
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh that every time I hear that last line from her,

1015
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: I get the goosebumps wow, because that's exactly what happened, foreshadowing.

1016
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 3: As Yeah, that's quite the uh oh my god, quite

1017
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: the look into the future with that comment. Now, obviously

1018
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: I don't believe the project you guys were working on

1019
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: came to fruition. But did that have to do with

1020
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: what happened with her or did it just fall through?

1021
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: No, it was a movie. Okay, we were booked for

1022
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: a movie, the a Z movie. But a movie nonetheless,

1023
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: I decided to back out of I didn't like the

1024
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: contract that I was given and I didn't want to

1025
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: do it. We had another project we were supposed to do.

1026
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: We were doing a virtual together. We were supposed to

1027
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: do like a virtual from her apartment and sell like

1028
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of merchandise together. That never happened. A bunch

1029
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: of things we had bookings after this, and none of

1030
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 2: it happened because unfortunately, shortly after this was filmed, the

1031
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: Florida incident happened. So but honestly, like if you watch this,

1032
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: I believe that you can see that I was being

1033
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: one hundred percent genuine in everything that I said to her.

1034
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't me blowing smoke up her ass, It wasn't

1035
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: me trying to appease her. I feel like I was

1036
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: just trying to be a friend who loves her and

1037
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: is just trying to be a positive staple in her

1038
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: life at that point, because I honestly don't feel like

1039
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: she had a lot of positive.

1040
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: People to fall back on, right Yeah, And that's.

1041
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: Where I get so frustrated with all of this, and

1042
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: that's why I get upset, and you know, for her

1043
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: to be upset with me now because of the way

1044
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: I feel. If I ever saw her again, I'd say

1045
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: it again, it's because I love her. If I didn't

1046
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: give two crap or shits about her, I wouldn't feel

1047
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: the way I felt or the way I feel about her.

1048
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't care, you know what I mean. But I

1049
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: think because I care so much. This is why I'm

1050
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: so frustrated. And if she can't see how much did

1051
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: I care about her and how much I love her, then,

1052
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: my god, I don't even know what.

1053
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: Else to say.

1054
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: It's tough love.

1055
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: And it's again, I'm not appeasing. You know.

1056
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: I can't enable somebody. I can't do it, and it

1057
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: makes me sick that this was the outcome. It literally

1058
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: makes me sick to my stomach.

1059
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: So well, since I'm sorry, you're also since we recorded

1060
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: the part one, a couple of things came out earlier

1061
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 3: in the week. I believe it was the twenty one

1062
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: of December. Her public defender filed for a reduction of sentence.

1063
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: They appealed an appeal, yes, excuse me, an appeal for

1064
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: the reduction of sentence. Her mugshot or official prison photo

1065
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: was released.

1066
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that.

1067
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: Oh you didn't see that. That was also that same day. Obviously,

1068
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: this is I'll show to you here, but you know

1069
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: you'll be able to see it if you google it.

1070
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 3: That's the official prison photo. But then another interesting thing

1071
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: yesterday it was as we're recording this, it was released

1072
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: that the official day of her release from prison is

1073
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 3: January seventh, twenty forty.

1074
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Wow, if she serves, if.

1075
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: She serves the full max what she was sentenced to

1076
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: in November twenty forty. January seventh, twenty forty wow.

1077
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: Feteen years though, that's that's more time, Okay, so it

1078
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: says here, wait, twenty twenty four.

1079
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: It's a little over sixteen years, isn't it.

1080
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 3: The sentence was for seventeen point six years after being

1081
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: found guilty in the death of seventy five year old

1082
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: Julian Lesson while driving under the influence.

1083
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she got credit for the time that she

1084
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: already spent in jail, so it came down to fifteen something.

1085
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: I'm just reading what I have started.

1086
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: Exact, but what I mean, it's it's a long time.

1087
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 3: Well, that's the that was released that that was the

1088
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 3: official date.

1089
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: So well, and then we don't know about the other

1090
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: new Jersey stuff or is it pa I don't even know.

1091
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: It was both, but we don't know about any of

1092
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Speaker 3: that and how that could still come up. What we've

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Speaker 3: these videos, she can still be brought up on those

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Speaker 3: charges while incarcerated, and.

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Speaker 2: That that could add to it at the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good lord.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Well, kids, do good. Just don't go to jail.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, we said in part one, you know

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Speaker 3: you don't want to be able to learn so much

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean, this is half the stuff she said.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a party is going on. But I'm

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Speaker 2: I never want myself for anybody that I love to experience.

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Speaker 2: So it's heartbreaking all around.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's that. All right. Well, we'll get out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go on over to ECWD for free and see

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Speaker 2: and happy New Year. I hope you're staying safe. I

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