1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Kerts in the shotgun. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: A touchdown would win it for the Eagles. Kerts pulls it, Froze. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Intercepted, game over, intercepted Dame over dayon Henley game over. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: The fourth interception Tony Jefferson. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Ump doesn't the bowl always finds Tony Jefferson. It was 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: tipped to him. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: Unbelievable way to end this game for the second week 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: in a row. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson with a huge interception. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Ow. 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: Tony Jefferson calls game. Matt Montey Smith calls game as well. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 4: Chargers winning overtime twenty. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Two to nineteen. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: After an incredible diving tip from Chargers cornerback Cam Hart. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: It's been their secret sauce all season, these cornerbacks, and yes, 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: Tony Jefferson, who a couple of years ago was in 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 4: the scouting department of the Baltimore Ravens, gets the game 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: winning interception and the Chargers survive in one of the 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: nuttiest games of the entire season. I was watching it 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: at so far across the street here it shook. Did 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: it look as stupidly entertaining on TV as it was 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 4: in person? 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Do you love slot beest. 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Do you love crazy bounces of the spheroid that we 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: call a football. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: Then you're gonna absolutely love this game. 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Do you do you love it when a diva receiver 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: lets the ball go off his hands for an interception 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: and then you see three turnovers happen in. 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: One play, an interception, a fumble and another fubble. Is 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: this was great? 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: It was highly entertaining, even if it wasn't precise well 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: executed football all the time. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: Well they always they wrote that book back in the 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: day like the greatest game ever played, you know, the 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: game that changed football Giants Colt Like there was seven 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: turnovers in the first half of that game, So an 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: ugly game can be great, and this was great. I 40 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: don't know if it was the greatest game ever played, 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: but it did include eight fumbles. 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: Five were recovered. 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: I believe we got up to seven turnovers for those 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: who were Jalen Hurts interceptions, which was, you know, more 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: than he had by far all season. But yeah, when 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 4: they were driving at the end of the game, that 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: play reminded me just a little bit of the Malcolm 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: Butler play in that it felt like one team is 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: going in for a game winning touchdown. Obviously they're not 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: on the goal line or anything. And instead, in one 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: second you hear Matt mney Smith on that call a 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: touchdown you know, could win the game for the Eagles. Instead, 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: it completely flips. Matt money Smith said he's been calling games. 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: I just saw him walk by with Daniel Jeremiah. He's 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: been calling games for fifteen years. He has never blown 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: out his voice before. He could not speak before, like 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: it cracked. It was over and it was that kind 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: of game. And maybe I shouldn't be that shocked because 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: for every good play that Jalen Hurts made tonight, and 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: he did have a good drive at the end of regulation, 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: he got them into position there into overtime, there was 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: another play where he was just half a second late 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: and he let the Chargers make. 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Plays because of it. 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I hate to start with the negative, but 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: it's pretty clear to me at this point in the 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: season with the Eagles and their dysfunctional offense that is 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: constantly stuck in the mud, that there if they just 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: operated with a sense of urgency that they display in 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 3: key moments, they'd be a much better team, like when 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: they have when their backs are against the wall and 72 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: they have to produce, they move the football, they do 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: it well. Jalen Hurt steps up in overtime and throws 74 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: a bullet to DeVonta Smith. 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: On third and sixteen. 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: He finds aj Brown on a quick slant that moves 77 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: them into field goal range just before the end of regulation. 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: Like they're capable of doing this, it's just that they're 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: over complicating everything. And he's holding onto the ball a 80 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: little too long, and it's almost as if the perfectionist 81 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: in him is trying too hard to make the perfect 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: play instead of the play that his instincts tell him 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: to make. And that is a huge reason why they're 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: just so stuck right now and why they end up 85 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: losing games like this. And he commits the amount of 86 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: turnovers that he did tonight. 87 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny because he plays such a safe 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: brand of football, like that's his biggest problem, safe, right, 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: And yet the last couple of weeks, it's suddenly like 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: the one thing that he had as a superpower, which 91 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: was avoiding these turnovers, is suddenly turning around on him. Hell, 92 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: he had turnovers, as you mentioned in one play. 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: And then here comes a bliss from Day on ticket. 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: They are intercepted big man. 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: Oh and the ball is out. 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: And the ball is out again, the Chargers fall on 97 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: In my goodness, that's an interception, a fumble recovery by 98 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: the offense, and a fumble recovery by the defense. 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: Let's get it all sorted out. When it's all uncovered, 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: it's troy Don. It's got the ball. Oh my goodness. 101 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: Oh man, Troy Die, who also had a big sports 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: fumble I believe in the game, wasn't on special tea. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: I'm losing track of how many different fumbles there were 104 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: in this game. 105 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: I thought like, man, I've never seen two turnovers in 107 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: one play like that. And then my son Walker, who 108 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: was next to me at the game and is in 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: the control room right now literally being our video playback operator. 110 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: He's hitting the button for the highlights, which is incredible. 111 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: He was like, no, there was three turnovers in that play. 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: And yes, apparently that according to Alia Sports Bureau, yeah, 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: that's the first play they have on record that one 114 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: person committed two turnovers in a single play. 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: You never know what you're gonna say. 116 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: You know that we love our listeners, right, So one 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: of our listeners reached out to me via Instagram DMS 118 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Andrew Khalil said, Hey, can you and Greg please look 119 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: into whether or not anyone else in NFL history prior 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: to Jalen Hurts has thrown an interception and fumbled the 121 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: ball in the same place. So I asked our research 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: team and they said, according to the information system that 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: they use, that it's the first two turnover play committed 124 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: by a player since at least nineteen ninety one. 125 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: So we saw history. Tonight wasn't the greatest game, but 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: we saw history. 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: I mean you said it by pointing out like the 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: great the good throws that Jalen Hurts had, like the 129 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: DeVante rip over the middle. I made a comment when 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: he nearly threw an interception on a pass over the 131 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: middle in the first quarter. They called it a pick 132 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: and then it was overturned upon review. It's like, well, 133 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 4: that's why Jalen Hurts doesn't throw the ball over the middle, 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: and Eagles fans are getting mad and the mentions and everything, 135 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: and actually he did have a couple really nice anticipation 136 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: throws over the middle in this game. But like for 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: every good play that they make, for every play that 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: aj Brown makes tonight, you mentioned the drop that he had, 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: and he had really three or four passes. You know, 140 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: the first throw of the game could have been a 141 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: long touchdown to AJ Brown. He can't bring it down. 142 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: There's another play I believe it was the last drive 143 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 4: of regulation, not overtime, right where Hurts throws it up 144 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: on third down and I'm watching that pass and I'm like, 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: you know, Brown is well covered. I don't know about that, 146 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: And actually he put perfect amount of air under it, 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: and AG Brown could have made a play. And AJ Brown, 148 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: even though he gets one hundred yards, like, didn't make 149 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: enough plays in this game. 150 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think we had three total drops at 151 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: least off off that tally. And it's kind of mystifying 152 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: because it is a receiver he usually has very sure, 153 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: very strong hands, losing the battle at the catchpoint against 154 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: the defensive back and really on his own volition just 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: by dropping these passes. And it also like it's a 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: great example of the Eagles. Now they started the game 157 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: with this, but they also had this third or fourth 158 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: down tendency to just say, f it, We're just going 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: to throw it to AJ Brown down the field somewhere, 160 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: and one on one. They did it again in overtime 161 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: before they hit that third and sixteen, And it just 162 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: kind of points to me the dysfunction of this team overall, 163 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: because what has been the narrative with this team throughout 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: this entire season. A J. 165 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Brown is unhappy. 166 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: It's it's a nightmare as he wants to describe it 167 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: in different words on a Twitch stream. And then when 168 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: the opportunity presents itself for him time and time again 169 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: in this game, he fails to deliver. I mean, the 170 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: ball over the middle that ended up in an interception 171 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: was it was a high ball, but it hit him 172 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: right in the hands. Just a shocking display of a 173 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: lacks of lack of execution for one of the best 174 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: receivers in the NFL. 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: Taekwon Barkley has a big play in this game, and 176 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: we'll listen to it in a little bit, but I 177 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: do want to point out how like the success rate 178 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: for both these teams running the ball was actually really poor. 179 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: There was a lot of negative runs by Barkley that 180 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: put them in bad down and distance situations. Kimani Viidel 181 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: got most of the carries for the Chargers, their success 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: rate was even lower. Making a mistake, This was a 183 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: defensive game not only the turnovers. There were twenty seven 184 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: drives in this game, which is an incredibly big amount. 185 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: Where were we talking about a game on Sunday where 186 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 4: one of the teams had six drives like the Eagles 187 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: in this game had. 188 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: Uh it was the Broncos game Bronx Raiders. 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: So the Broncos had six drives, the Eagles had fourteen drives, 190 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: the Chargers had thirteen. And yet the Chargers still didn't 191 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 4: crack three hundred yards and the Eagles didn't I don't 192 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: believe until overtime. Like the Chargers somehow survived the game 193 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: where Justin Herbert throws for one hundred and thirty nine yards. 194 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: This was such a strange game. He is their leading 195 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: rusher despite them being very run heavy. Their leading receiver 196 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: is Kimani Videll, who had exactly one catch and it 197 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: was on the third play of the game. It was 198 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: like a sixty yard dump off to videl where he, 199 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: like you know, gets loose on the sideline. They really 200 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 4: couldn't get anything going consistently on offense except for Herbert scrambling. 201 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: And yet despite all that, I think Herbert played a 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: pretty good game. How would you describe this justin Herbert game. 203 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: As they get to nine to four and they keep 204 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: winning games this year that in the past you would say, Oh, 205 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: they're going to charger this one, and instead they're they're 206 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: finding ways to win them. 207 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: Now, dude, that's the defining theme of their season, is 208 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: that they in games in which they would charge it away, 209 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: they are doing the opposite. 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: They're winning these games, which. 211 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's emblematic of a regime change 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: and a culture change taking effect, I don't know. Will 213 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: unpack that eventually, but what I will say is that 214 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: for as many takes ways as they got, they couldn't 215 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: turn anything into points. 216 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert led them in rushing. 217 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: A guy with a broken left hand with a pad 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: on it trying to stiff arm defenders with a broken 219 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: left hand lead you in rushing. How about this you 220 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: do want to talk about like this is why numbers 221 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: don't scan the box scores guys on the next morning. 222 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I know that people used to do it with the 223 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: newspapers and now you do it with the internet. Don't 224 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: do it. That is not defining this game. 225 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: Because he finished ten to twenty one, I believe that 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: was his passing line. He was sacked a career high 227 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: seven times. He completed a career low forty six point 228 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: two percent of his passes. 229 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: He posted the lowest. 230 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: Passer rating in a weir and win in his career 231 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: on Monday Night, and. 232 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: He won the game. And he's been sacked six or 233 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: more times in three games in his career. 234 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: He's three and oho. 235 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: In those games. 236 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: This justifies the idea that he's Superman because he's overcoming 237 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: in incredible odds that are against him. 238 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: That's all absolutely true. 239 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: It's so hard to pick apart Herbert in general because 240 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: of the team he plays for, and especially this year, 241 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: because everything you said is true. And he had three 242 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: or four really awesome throws tonight. He did not have 243 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: any open receivers. That really stuck out. One of the 244 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: reasons why he kept holding the ball. I'm watching it, 245 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: you know, I got the all twenty two. We're up 246 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: in the third section and got live and like, they're 247 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: just not creating open receivers with formations, with motion, with rubs, 248 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: with anything. 249 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Guys are covered. 250 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: And he had some nice plays where he was on 251 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: the move and he would like throw it over the middle, 252 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: and he had some side arms. All that said something 253 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: DJ and Money said to me, and I totally agree 254 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: it was gonna be. One of my big points today 255 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: is he left the pocket without any pressure a lot. 256 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: I think he got spooked fairly early in this game 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: with good reason that, like the pressure was not gonna 258 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: his protection was not gonna hold up, and when it 259 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: did hold up, he would just leave anyways. But it's 260 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: kind of hard to blame him when you're just watching 261 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: Bradley Boseman be like, Hey, Nikobe Dean, would you like 262 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: to justlit's up the middle? Why don't I just let 263 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: you walk right by me? Again and again? They're running 264 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: the same blitz over and over. It's not even a 265 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: blitz some of the times because it looks like they're 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: going to rush five and it's only four. And so 267 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: it's hard to blame Herbert too much. And some of 268 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: his runs where he made people miss and obviously showed toughness, 269 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: were among the biggest reasons they won this game, so overall, like, 270 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: I think he played great, and yet it's a systemic 271 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: problem that honestly has me pretty worried. In the wrong matchup, 272 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 4: basically against any good pass rush, they're going to be 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: in trouble. 274 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Yes. 275 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: In fact, Nikobe Deane got home so often that the 276 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: one time he was an unabated rusher, like just complete 277 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: free rusher to Justin Herbert, he ends up whiffing on 278 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: a sack attent and Herbert turns it into a positive 279 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: gain on the ground because he was just I think 280 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: he was probably surprised that he didn't run into Commandi 281 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: Vadal for the first time all night. And you're right, 282 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: And things got worse once they lost Trey Pipkins to 283 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: injury the right tackle and they had to replace him 284 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: with another body. It's been the story of their entire season. 285 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: They cannot stay healthy upfront. They have different offensive line 286 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: combinations every week. But I think two things can be true, 287 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: and that Herbert did play really well, given the fact 288 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: that his stat line does not reflect that, and at 289 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 3: the final score while they win by three points, doesn't 290 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: reflect that because he had to overcome so much. But 291 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: he also did step up into pressure at times. Greg, 292 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: if you had to guess, what do you think his 293 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: average time to throw was tonight three three point two 294 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: to one seconds, which is far too long to hold 295 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: onto the football behind that offensive line. But I think 296 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: you're absolutely right that at times he didn't trust his 297 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: line and felt like he needed to do what Deshaun 298 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: Watson used to do in Houston, which is break clean 299 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: pockets because he didn't trust his offensive line. And not 300 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: to say that the pocket was clean all the time, 301 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: because it wasn't, but it just felt a little bit unnecessary. 302 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: And yet they find a way to win. They have 303 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: to give a game ball to Cameron Dicker for hitting 304 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: all these field goals to win this game. Is it 305 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: a viable path to success down the road? Probably not 306 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: big reason that you should be concerned about this team, 307 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: but we should also give credit to their defense of 308 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: playing good ball and stepping up in the big spot. 309 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: Look, Tim Harbough thinks it's a path to success. He's 310 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: playing this way the whole game. He's kicking field goals 311 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: on fourth and two in the red zone and it's 312 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: working for me. He kicked it also on a punt 313 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: when he had a fourth and short, kind of in 314 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: the middle of the field where most coaches at this 315 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 4: point are gonna go for it, and I don't really Clay. 316 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: Of all people, of all people, Troy Aikman pointed to 317 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: analytics on the broadcast and said, you know, analytics says 318 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: you should go for it here, but that's not Harbaugh's style. 319 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: No, And I think about the first drive of the 320 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: second half, which took ten minutes long. I believe it 321 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: was like, you know, sixteen plays something like that and 322 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: when sixty yards, like they ended up kicking a pretty 323 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: long field goal. They actually had Cameron Dicker kicked two 324 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: field goals sixteen plays forty two yards and took up 325 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: about ten minutes. And I was like, this is what 326 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh wants to do. He's like, oh, we're winning 327 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: by four, like I'm gonna treat it like it's twenty one. 328 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: They only had five first downs passing the whole night, 329 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: like it is Harbaugh's dream to just go three yards, 330 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: three yards, three yards. And they do have a couple 331 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: good running backs. 332 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: I love what I saw at Hampton tonight showing some explosion, 334 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: and I love that they kept the Doll like very active. 335 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: He's a good pass protector. 336 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: Hampton's just coming off the injury, and it's a good 337 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: one to two punch. But man, they just had too 338 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: many drives On a night when they had thirteen drives, 339 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: there was only four where they had multiple first downs. 340 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: So it is going to be really hard for them 341 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: to win games. But in the AFC, how many defenses 342 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: have that good of a pass rush. Not many, and 343 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: they found a way to beat this one tonight. 344 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about a potential AFC West showdown in the 345 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: final few weeks between the Denver Broncos and the Chargers 346 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: in Week eighteen, and how gross that game truly could 347 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: be because you have a Broncos defense that is good, 348 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: you have a Chargers defense that's playing its best ball 349 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: the season right now, and you have two offenses that 350 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: are inconsistent. The Broncos are getting better offensively in recent weeks, 351 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: but we know what the Chargers are. 352 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: We saw it tonight. 353 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: This is unfortunately largely their ceiling unless Herbert can connect 354 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: with his receivers and they can get open, which they 355 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: did not tonight. So how gross is that Week eighteen 356 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: game going to be? If the Broncos are playing their 357 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: starters and it matters, it could be one of the 358 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: grossest of the entire season. 359 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: You know, we should pick up here a little bit, 360 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: but I do want you to give me something on 361 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: what you saw out of their defense, because I think 362 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: that is a big takeaway to me that Jesse Minter 363 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: has come out of the bye week being more aggressive. 364 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: He showed a lot of cool like designer blitzes, which 365 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: he is not known for. I thought it was very effective. 366 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why I picked the Chargers tonight. 367 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: Adam Rank wasn't the only one. And if you don't 368 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm talking about, check out the Chargers social 369 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: loved it. 370 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: I thought they would trust me. 371 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: I thought they would prevent the big play, which through 372 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: the air. In the end, they got some breaks, but 373 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: they did. They only gave up one touchdown and their 374 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: cornerbacks have played great all year. Their pressure was good, 375 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: and I thought that the pass rush was a good 376 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: plan tonight. 377 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: What did you see? 378 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 379 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: I love the way that they're deploying different blitzers where 380 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: they'll show us a sim pressure on one play in 381 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: a real pressure on the It complicates the picture for 382 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: opposing quarterbacks. But what I really like more than anything 383 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: is their continuity at ever level of their defense. Since 384 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: they've gotten Khalil Mack back from that elbow injury, they've 385 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: been a better defense. 386 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I love their defensive interior. 387 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: Deshaun Hand drops back in coverage tonight, Jalen Hurts is 388 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: never expecting a defensive tackle to be near the line 389 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: to gain throws it right to him for an interception. 390 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: That was the multiple turnover play. And it starts with 391 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: the defensive lineman picking off Jalen Hurts. So that's a 392 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: great product of good design catching an offense by surprise. 393 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: I love what tier Tart has done throughout this season. 394 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: There was a game earlier this season where he's deflecting 395 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: like every third pass with his hands at the defensive line. 396 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: They're active up front. Their linebackers play good ball. 397 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: They like this rotation with Denzel Perriman in on the 398 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: early downs and the running downs. You put Troy down, 399 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: it die in back on passing downs because he's more athletic, 400 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: he's younger, he can move better. I love what their 401 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: secondary is doing. It's not just Derwin James anymore. It's 402 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 3: Cam Hard, It's star Heep Steel still still excuse me, 403 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: it's Tony Jefferson unk back there making plays like. 404 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: They play cohesively at every level. 405 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: And no, they don't have a ton of star power necessarily, 406 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: they're playing together and I think that's what matters the most. 407 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: And they rotate their cornerbacks, and it's really worked. Dante Jackson, 408 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: for people who have not watched the Chargers has been 409 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: one of the best free agent pickups in the NFL 410 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: this year. 411 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 412 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: I'm shocked by it because he struggled in Pittsburgh. But 413 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: they have a bit of a secret sauce reminds me 414 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: a little bit of the Chiefs, where almost any cornerback 415 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: they bring in, like even Christian Fulton, who you know 416 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: came from Tennessee. Whether it's guys that they inherited from 417 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: from the previous regime, like they just coached them up 418 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: and they're all playing well, and so it's Jefferson, it's 419 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Benjamin Saint, just cam Hart had that big play. Tar 420 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: Heap still was running step for step with aj Brown 421 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: and DeVante Smith throughout the night. 422 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: And it's a really good defense. 423 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: So if you have a really good defense, a team 424 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: that plays hard, it has talent on offense, like Herbert 425 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: has some skilled players around him, maybe they can make 426 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 4: up for that huge weakness. But man, it is a 427 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: huge weakness. Shout out to the Eagles defense too. By 428 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: the way, Jordan Davis, Ojamo or Ojamo, Jalen Phillips all 429 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: had six pressures and then Hunt and Byron Young had 430 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: had four. So it's like they had five guys with 431 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: at least four pressures, which. 432 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: Is just an outrageous amount for one day. 433 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: And they did that, you know, without Jalen Carter in there. 434 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: I thought that was a big part of Jordan Davis's 435 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 3: performance to night was kind of plugging the gap and 436 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 3: making up for the loss of Jalen Carter by just 437 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: being a menace on the interior. And you know, I 438 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: think n Kobe Dean's had a really good run as 439 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: of late too. You know, like John Campbell I thought 440 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: was gonna be a big part of this defense that 441 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: he hasn't really needed to be because of Nacobe Deans. 442 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: Yes and no, I think the last two weeks he 443 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: has been Boomer boss watching him live, especially like he 444 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: was on the wrong end too early of some negative 445 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: plays where he was a little too aggressive. 446 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: He's got to finish the play. 447 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: He kind of reminded me of Derwin James, who I 448 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 4: thought the Eagles were actually picking on early. He made 449 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 4: a couple plays of his own too, but sometimes they 450 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: used his aggressiveness against him. 451 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Man, that was a crazy game. 452 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: I give the Chargers fansom credit on a night where 453 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 4: the Eagles fans took over that stadium and you know 454 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: they're they're booing the Eagles at some points, and you 455 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: know they're they're making it loud for the Chargers offense 456 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: at other points, and the Chargers fans are getting loud 457 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: to We're leaving the stadium and you know we're packed 458 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: like on our way out of there, and Eagles fans 459 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: are outnumbering the Chargers fans for sure, but there is 460 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: a hardy let's go Chargers chant And I was like, 461 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: is a fight gonna. 462 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: Breakout right now with my son right here? 463 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: Like I'm actually a little surprised by the hutzpah of 464 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: the Chargers fans, like staring at all the Eagles fans 465 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: in the face and chanting a big Let's go Chargers. 466 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: So the Chargers fan have some have some toughness, just like, 467 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: just like that team, even if they're overmatched a little bit. 468 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: I man, they set the tone in preseason twenty twenty four. 469 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the field, Jim Harbaugh and the Los Angeles Chargers. 470 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: That's right, going all the way back to that first 471 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 4: preseason game we were at we we have one more 472 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: highlight Chris, should we run it just to give Walker 473 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 4: another chance to press the button? 474 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: It's up to you. 475 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: I mean, he has been killing it, Okay, it is flawless, 476 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: so I think we should put him to this. I 477 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: do like that We've been talking about maybe it's the 478 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: end of the touchbush, but you. 479 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: Know, maybe not. 480 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 4: When the Eagles are finally getting exposed to play running 481 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 4: a variation of position, let's make this. Uh, it's time 482 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: for Who Delivered presented by Uber Eats. 483 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: Hurts with a quick pitch out to Barkley. 484 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: He's the first down of ball. Coy Thurry turning ten touchdown. 485 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: You're not going to play. 486 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: You're not going to. 487 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: Catch him until fifty three. You wont scrapper by Saquon Barkley. 488 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: They set up that touch push formation, but there's so 489 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: many things that they're. 490 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 4: Able to do all of that, and yes, Saquon getting 491 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 4: it done. That was Who Delivered, presented by Uber Eats. 492 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on 493 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: Uber Eats, the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. 494 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: Order now watching a person though, Juk, I gotta say, 495 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: I don't even think it's a question if you give 496 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: me a mari and Hampton with a little bit of 497 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 4: space or Saquon Barkley with a little of a space. 498 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm taking Hampton. I mean I believe that. 499 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: And you know, as he broke free a soapon broke 500 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: free on that run, the thought crossed my mind, which 501 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: was does he know how to finish these runs still? 502 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: Because he just hasn't had these this year. 503 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Like he he's probably like, oh, I forgot what this 504 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: feels like, being an open space with nobody between me 505 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: and the end zone. I thought for a second he'd 506 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: slow down and get caught, but. 507 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: No, he has enough straight line speed. Don't get me wrong, 508 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley's a good back. But there were a couple 509 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: of runs on the night where you saw like big 510 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: creases developing and the Eagles fans would start like swelling 511 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: and think the big play was coming. And with Hampton, 512 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: I think he's hitting that hole like faster and that 513 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: there's just a little more juice you want your running 514 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: backs young and man. 515 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: The Eagles fall to eight and five. They are still 516 00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: leading the division. 517 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: The fact that the Cowboys lost this week, you know, 518 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: gave them a little bit of a cushion, But It's 519 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: so funny how when the Cowboys lost that game, when 520 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: we were doing our Thursday night recap, We're like, well, 521 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: the division, that's probably out. They're back up against it, 522 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: but they got to win out. I know the Eagles 523 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: schedule is favorable, but there's still only one and a 524 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: half games out of the division. I give the Eagles 525 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: or the Cowboys a better chance of making the playoffs 526 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 4: by winning the division than I do making it as 527 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: a wildcard. They are not out of it. Two out 528 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: with or to play is not out of it. With 529 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: the way that these Eagles team, they can trick a 530 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: game away. 531 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's totally fair because they're definitely not 532 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: going to earn a wildcard spot, not with how tight 533 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: the NFC race is right now. But look, man, Raiders, Commanders, Bills, Commanders. 534 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: I know it's any given Sunday in this league and 535 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: crazy things happen. But if the Eagles lose to the Raiders, 536 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: Eagles fans have every reason in the world to light 537 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: up WIP on the next morning talk show. They have 538 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: every reason the world to riot downtown. 539 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: Could they lose one lose that game? 540 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: Okay, they can lose to the Bills though, could they 541 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: lose one to the Commanders. 542 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, a divisional split would make sense. 543 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: The Commanders at this point, I don't know. 544 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: I think they have that in them. This Eagles team 545 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: is there's just something sour about it. And there were 546 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: a lot of. 547 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: Chiefs fans watching this game, maybe even Steelers and Ravens 548 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: fans who are thinking about potential wild card situation. I 549 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: don't think Colts fans are watching football anymore, and they're 550 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: they're disappointed about what happened here because the Chargers are 551 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: at nine and four, they are three losses ahead of 552 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: the Chiefs. 553 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: Forget about that. 554 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: There was a trio of Broncos fans in the stands 555 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: at this game tonight that they should on TV like 556 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: talk about a troll job. 557 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: I did not see them among the crowd. A lot 558 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: of fun tonight. 559 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick break on the other side, We're 560 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: going to do some quarterback news and then we'll get out, 561 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: get into the La craft. Philip Rivers is making a comeback. 562 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 4: What back on NFL Daily set down for the game. 563 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: Mostly Eagles fans around me, but right in front of 564 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: me was a man and his father with a Philip 565 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: Rivers Chargers Jersey on and it was just before the 566 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: game started, as I'm scrolling my phone that I see 567 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: that Philip Rivers is making a comeback. And I just 568 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: assumed this was a fake Adam Schefter or rhaps the account. 569 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: It's like, Nope, Philip Rivers is going to try out 570 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: with the Indianapolis Colts on Tuesday, and if all goes well, 571 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 4: they will sign them to their practice squad with an 572 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: eye on potentially joining the team. Yes, this is the 573 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 4: time for Quarterback Keeper presented by Snapdragon. I did not 574 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: think that Philip Rivers would be part of Quarterback Keeper 575 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: presented by Snapdragon in the year twenty twenty five. 576 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: What do you make of this? 577 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: When I first got the message about this this evening 578 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: in the Eastern time zone, I let out a hearty. 579 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Chuckle because, like you, I thought it was a joke. 580 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 3: And then I did a double take and realized, oh, no, 581 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: this is serious and I need to write about this 582 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: right now, which I did, and I pulled up Pro 583 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: Football Reference just to get a little bit of, you know, context, 584 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of a refresher in my brain about 585 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: when was the last time Philip Rivers played twenty twenty 586 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: uh we were in a pandemic in twenty twenty. Philip 587 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: Rivers was still playing good football in twenty twenty, and 588 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: then he walked away from the game because age told 589 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: him to, even if he was still playing good ball. 590 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: It sent the Colts into their latest abyss at the 591 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: quarterback position, which they thought they finally saw when they 592 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: drafted Anthony Richardson. 593 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: They didn't. They signed Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is now 594 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: out for the year. 595 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: And somehow we have circled all the way back to 596 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. The obvious reason is Shane Steichen and his 597 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: history with Rivers from their time spent with the Chargers 598 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: as his quarterbacks coach, which his interim offensive coordinator before 599 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: Rivers went on to the Colts. It is insane, and 600 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: it perfectly captures the desperation that the Colts find themselves 601 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: experiencing right now after losing Daniel Jones and watching there 602 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: once solidly on the AFC South slipping through their fingers 603 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 3: and just fearing another late season collapse at the hands 604 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: of the Texans or maybe even the Jaguars this year, 605 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: and this is the only thing they can figure out. 606 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what happens, but I do want to 607 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: point this out. Pro Football Hall of Fame decided to 608 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: chime in on this tonight. Yes, if Rivers assigned to 609 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 3: the active roster, his Hall of Fame clock resets. He's 610 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: a semi finalist for the class this year. That's how 611 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: long he's been out of football. This is crazier than 612 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: pulling Jeff Saturday out of the booth to coach the Colts. 613 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: It is so cold. 614 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 4: You know who Philip Rivers offensive coordinator was for that 615 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: Colts team. By the way, Philip Rivers had a quietly 616 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: great way to end his career where he played very 617 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: well for a surprising eleven win Colts team and went 618 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: toe to toe in a playoff game that they only 619 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: lost by a field goal, and he played very well 620 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 4: with Josh Allen against the Bills they lost twenty seven 621 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: to twenty four. 622 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: Do you know who was his coordinator of that year? 623 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: It was the guy who lost to Night, Nick Sirian. 624 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 2: That's right. I love Philip Rivers. 625 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: He's maybe my favorite quarterback of all time. He's been 626 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: wanting to make this comeback like a year after year, 627 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 4: and no one really wanted him to do it. For 628 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: the first couple of years and then it just never happened. 629 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: It's five years later. It's insane, and yet I'm sick 630 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: enough I do want it to happen. Riley Leonard is 631 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent and he might not even be 632 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: ready for Sunday. Watch that tape he actually played, Okay, 633 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: I think they would start Riley Leonard over Philip Rivers. 634 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: I can't believe him. 635 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I thought he played pretty well in relief 636 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: of Daniel Jones and that loss. 637 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a thing. 638 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: The problem is Tarvarius Ward is entering the concussion protocol 639 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: for a third time this season. That's probably it or 640 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 4: his season. They have another concussion for Braden Smith, their 641 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: right tackle. He's probably out this week, maybe beyond. Forrest 642 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: Buckner's not back. Saus Gardner's not back. Like the chances 643 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: of Philip Rivers, even in a heroic Hollywood scenario, playing 644 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: well enough to actually compete with this team is maybe 645 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: not high enough. 646 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: And yet I want to see it. 647 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: You know, life is short, and that's what Philip Rivers 648 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: is thinking. And who cares about Hall of Fame clocks. 649 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: I don't need a I don't need a Philip Rivers 650 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: versus Eli Manning debate in a couple months. 651 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we got multiple seasons of Joe Flacco 652 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: writing a similar story. We have Aaron Rodgers over forty 653 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: years old, having one of the best games of his 654 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: last few years. 655 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: But he didn't take four he didn't take five years off. 656 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: He's also not forty four years old, which Philip Rivers 657 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: turned on Monday. But I will say the schedule has 658 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: never cleared better for Philip Rivers to make a comeback 659 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: than right now because the high school football team that 660 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: he coaches lost in the state semifinal in Alabama on 661 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: November twenty eighth. 662 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: He's got the time. 663 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: Tom Brady was forty four years old when he led 664 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: the NFL in touchdowns and yards for the Buccaneers. Is 665 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: his second to last season. I thought he should have 666 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 4: won the MVP that year. I thought that was his 667 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: best year with the Bucks. Was not the year that 668 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl. He just got edged out 669 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 4: for the MVP by Rogers, right, And I think Philip 670 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: Rivers has about a point one percent chance of playing 671 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: at that level. 672 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: And yet it would be it'd be fun. 673 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: Let the old kid sling it and who knows, maybe 674 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: he could be their quarterback for twenty twenty six, because 675 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: it's probably not gonna be Daniel Jones. 676 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: I don't really know Daniel Jones. 677 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: It was confirmed is going to have a surgery on 678 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: a torn Achilles tendon, and we're gonna end up talking 679 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: about this in the offseason and later this season. But 680 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: it creates a really difficult situation because he is a 681 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 4: free agent. I assume you're not going to use the 682 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: franchise tag and a guy with an Achilles tendon. But 683 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: it would make sense for him to want to stay 684 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: with the Colts if they still have the same coach. 685 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: And I'm already hearing a little bit of buzz, like 686 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: if they lose out Carly, you know, Gordon Nurse is 687 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: a new owner. Essentially, they usually want a fresh start. 688 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: Like just because they got a lot of bad luck 689 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: doesn't mean Shane Stike and Chris Ballard are necessarily safe. 690 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: And maybe that's why you pull the ripcord and you 691 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: truly believe that it's Rivers that could save the day. 692 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is a desperation move that fits, 693 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: you know, the Colts in the recent in recent memory, 694 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: Chris Ballard is Dodgs getting fired you know, once, if 695 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: not twice already. So if they were to lose out, yeah, 696 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: I would not be shocked at all. I would be 697 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: a little bit more surprised because I think Steichen's done 698 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: a good job of coaching. I also think that he's 699 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: had a tough hand dealt to him by the decisions 700 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: made by the personnel department, drafting Anthony Richardson fourth overall 701 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: and never getting him to quite fit with his coach, 702 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: the orbital bone for actual landing made on IRS side. 703 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: It felt like that was kind of a lost cause anyway, 704 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: which is what led them to Daniel Jones, the competition, 705 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones winning the job, all of that stuff. But 706 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: it's tough because now this's the verse Sam Darnald, And 707 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: it also kind of relates to Kirk Cousins and his 708 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: Achilles injury, which is that like an achilles at this 709 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: point in the season means he's gonna miss probably half 710 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: of next season. You don't know if he's gonna be 711 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: the same guy when he comes back from the Achilles. 712 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: Mobility is one of his strengths and if he's lost 713 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: some of that because of the Achilles, that takes away 714 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 3: his value and unlike Darnald with the Vikings last year, 715 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: coming off of a great season that ended in disaster, 716 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: you don't have that same strength to make a case 717 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: to bring him back. 718 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: But you do have the need that the Vikings thought 719 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: they didn't. So we'll see what happens. 720 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you basically can't count on Daniel Jones. He's just 721 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: someone to have in the building if Shane Stiken is there, 722 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: But you need to come up with a completely separate 723 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: plan at quarterback and assume you're not gonna get anything 724 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: out of Daniel Jones, at least for a good chunk 725 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: of next season. They're at Seattle the Colts in week fifteen, 726 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: oh Man, Philip Rivers potentially making his first start in 727 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: five years on Monday Night football struck me you YouTube 728 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: Live December twenty second, a couple days before Christmas. 729 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: Oh, the best gift ever? 730 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: This We gotta make this happen. That was Quarterback Keeper, 731 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: presented by Snapdragon. Learn more at snapdragon dot com. Last laptop, Yes, Chucky, do. 732 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 3: You think he still has the sprinter van decked out 733 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: for film study that he had driving from San Diego 734 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: to La back in the day. 735 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a large market. I think he 736 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: still has that thing. I don't know who's he selling 737 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: that to. Maybe Jeremiah could use that coming up, coming 738 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: up for work. 739 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: I'll have to ask him. It was It was a pleasure. 740 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun over at TOFI tonight. 741 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Thank you to. 742 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 4: My friend Chris Babona producing the show. We got Lavender 743 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: in the back, we got Walker on the ones and Tues. 744 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: We will be back in this studio on Tuesday. 745 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: Hit the button. 746 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 4: I said, we're gonna keep this short until we can 747 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: get out. I didn't nick you're gonna be back with 748 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: me later this week with Ally Connolly. 749 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: By the way, they all underrated team. 750 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: But before that we still got a DNM and before 751 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: that me Jordan Rodrigue, Colleen Wolfe on Tuesday. 752 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: We'll see you next Tues.