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Speaker 1: Good morning, swimmer and welcome to the Not Dungs Podcast
Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December twenty third, and
Speaker 1: this is the Drop podcast on Jay Skeets alongside me
Speaker 1: as always tas Mellis.
Speaker 3: Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, everybody.
Speaker 1: You're looking good in the old ugly Christmas sweater.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'll be wearing this for a week. This
Speaker 3: raptor sweater feels so nice. I like it.
Speaker 1: Pops on camera here too, joining us live from Toronto.
Speaker 1: It is the International Man of Mystery taking it to
Speaker 1: the Max Lee Ellis friend day. Hey, it's really sticking
Speaker 1: with that, hey, aren't you?
Speaker 4: I have to man, I'm out about in Canada. I've
Speaker 4: got to, you know, lean into the accent.
Speaker 1: Oh man, last but not least, making the magic happen.
Speaker 1: Super producer JD.
Speaker 5: How's it going, eh? Yeah, Canada stuff and I too
Speaker 5: will be going to Canada tomorrow. Oh wow great, I'll
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Speaker 1: our final show of the week this week, no show
Speaker 1: on Friday, That's why we're doing the drop today. But
Speaker 1: next week show on Monday and show on Thursday. So
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh and the thirtieth, if I have that right, correct, JD.
Speaker 1: You're off like you just said, you'll be in Canada
Speaker 1: kicking it with Lee.
Speaker 5: To Barkley now with Lee, no offense, Lee, but I
Speaker 5: think Lee and I will be in opposite ends of
Speaker 5: the country, is that right?
Speaker 1: Well, where are you going, Lee?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're heading to Calgary today at If you want
Speaker 4: to really see me suffer, check out the weather forecast
Speaker 4: for the next six days.
Speaker 3: Cagy.
Speaker 2: It does not get higher or lower.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which way you go with this one,
Speaker 4: but it's minus twenty three like every single day while
Speaker 4: we're out there, and that's before you factor into the windshill.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be nice and fresh minus twenty three
Speaker 1: degrees Celsius.
Speaker 2: That's right, Celsius.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so let's call it.
Speaker 1: Minus thirty with the windshill, like you said, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Wow, we're gonna really test out just I said,
Speaker 4: my boys, they complain there's not enough snow in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I said, you want some snow, or you'll get some
Speaker 4: snow and some cold and some frigid air out here. Boys,
Speaker 4: so hopefully they enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Was this like the weird equivalent of like making your
Speaker 1: teenage kids smoke a pack of cigarettes. You want a
Speaker 1: cigarette here, smoke them all and we'll see if you
Speaker 1: like it. All right, exactly how fun in Calgary there, lely, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is our final show of the week, So I thought,
Speaker 1: why not, you know, pound some eggnog, throw a throw
Speaker 1: a fire, throw a fire, throw a log on the fire,
Speaker 1: through a fire, like I'm a super Mario brother, just
Speaker 1: got the flower power. And we could ask some NBA
Speaker 1: Christmas questions here. Okay, so that's what we're doing. These
Speaker 1: are fun questions for everybody in the stream team, the
Speaker 1: pod squad, the Discord Horde to chime in as well.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a started here tasks. I want to
Speaker 1: know who's on your NBA naughty and nice list. But
Speaker 1: let's start with the naughty list, all right, What's who's
Speaker 1: Sanda got at the top of that list Lebron James.
Speaker 3: And I'm not just gaslighting because it's a big name.
Speaker 3: Lebron has been naughty. If you make someone bleed, you
Speaker 3: are clearly naughty. And he banged Isaiah Stewart right in
Speaker 3: the face with that reverse karate chop. No matter what
Speaker 3: you call it, it was. He turned and if you're
Speaker 3: watching on YouTube, at the top of your screen here
Speaker 3: on the right, he turned with a fist hit Isaiah Stewart.
Speaker 3: Now he did apologize immediately, but Isaiah Stewart was obviously
Speaker 3: extremely mad because Lebron hit him as hard as he
Speaker 3: possibly could. And that wasn't just Lebron's first altercation this year.
Speaker 3: It was definitely the most blatant. Received a suspension for it,
Speaker 3: a warrant to one game suspension for it. But if
Speaker 3: you remember it seems like eons ago. He put his
Speaker 3: hands on Joel Embiid at the beginning of this season
Speaker 3: when Embiid went up for a duck. Now, it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem as bad, but Embiid went down pretty hard on
Speaker 3: his back and was writhing around for a little bit. Luckily,
Speaker 3: he was healthy and continued to play. But Lebron definitely
Speaker 3: put his hands on he lost balanced there. Anyways, that
Speaker 3: one clearly not as bad, so a couple noddies right there.
Speaker 3: In a third nodty this week we saw it he
Speaker 3: may have broke some bylaws when he came into the
Speaker 3: arena with a cigar in his hand? Was it lit?
Speaker 3: Who the heck knows? So, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would break the laws like that.
Speaker 3: But he came in yet with a cigar in hand,
Speaker 3: and I actually I wish he was naughtier. In another instance,
Speaker 3: he was far too nice for me. You remember how
Speaker 3: Enniskant Freedom has been on Lebron about being a Nike
Speaker 3: spokesman's right, and so Lebron met Annas cant in the
Speaker 3: back hallway of an arena. Apparently Annis Cantor said nothing
Speaker 3: to him. I wish Lebron was a little naughtier to
Speaker 3: him in that instance. Tell Anna Scanter, they're playing you,
Speaker 3: They're using you for your agenda, even though Anna Scanter's
Speaker 3: actual reason, deep down his motive might be right. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's getting played all over the place. So anyways, I
Speaker 3: wish Lebron was a little bit meaner in that instance.
Speaker 3: But Lebron, yes, he's this is the meanest Lebron we've
Speaker 3: ever seen. It's not that mean, frankly, but yeah, he definitely,
Speaker 3: he definitely meant to whack Isaiah Stewart as hard as
Speaker 3: he possibly could. He did that that grunt face if
Speaker 3: you look real close, like you put your lips together
Speaker 3: and you try and do something real strong. So he
Speaker 3: did that to Isaiah Stewart. Did he means to get
Speaker 3: him right in the mouth or I'm sorry writing the
Speaker 3: mouth right in the eye. Maybe he meant the mouth
Speaker 3: because Isaiah Stewart definitely dipped a little bit lower. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Lebron's the naughty one on my my naughty list. Sorry,
Speaker 3: sorry Lebron. He doesn't usually he doesn't usually warrant it
Speaker 3: because he does a lot of other good things off
Speaker 3: the court. But I don't know, Santa might be thinking
Speaker 3: not this year.
Speaker 1: Getting anything in the old stocking?
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 1: What about you, Lee, who's on your NBA ninety list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm going in a slightly different direction about a.
Speaker 4: Performance on the court, And it's tough to look at
Speaker 4: a guy who's averaging twenty to ten. Basically if you
Speaker 4: round up and five assists and think that he's having
Speaker 4: a bad season or he's being a naughty player. But
Speaker 4: Julius Randall, I mean, he's not having a bad season.
Speaker 4: It's just last season the bar was raised so high
Speaker 4: by him. He just hasn't been able to get back
Speaker 4: to that level at all this season. It's almost like
Speaker 4: he's in some sort of breakout season sophomore slump. Because
Speaker 4: last season he was an All Star, he was the
Speaker 4: most Improved Player, he was All NBA second Team.
Speaker 2: But he's not really anywhere near any of those accolades
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 4: Obviously, he can't win well, he could technically win Most Improved,
Speaker 4: but he won't win that.
Speaker 2: But will he even be.
Speaker 4: An All Star this year? I would say it's probably
Speaker 4: unlikely from what we've seen so far, because he just
Speaker 4: hasn't been able to impact games like he did last season.
Speaker 4: And you know, combine that but the fact that the
Speaker 4: Knicks have struggled to match last season's eforts. Right now,
Speaker 4: they're fourteen and seventeen.
Speaker 2: They've really struggled at home.
Speaker 4: Last season, the Knicks had the fourth best defense. They've
Speaker 4: dropped off there. They're twenty third so far at this
Speaker 4: point of the season. Right now, that's not all Randall's fault,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, you don't just want to throw
Speaker 4: him under the bus. But I think what we have
Speaker 4: found out this season, and this really started in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: I think last season against Atlanta Hawks, I just don't
Speaker 4: think he's a number one guy.
Speaker 2: I think Julius Randall clearly.
Speaker 4: To me, is more suited as a number two option,
Speaker 4: you know, the Scottie Pippen if you like, which is
Speaker 4: again certainly not an insult. Scotty was the greatest number
Speaker 4: two of all time, probably and I think that's just
Speaker 4: where Julius is probably better. He needs that other guy
Speaker 4: who can go out there and take more of the
Speaker 4: sort of responsibility, and Julius just hasn't been able to
Speaker 4: handle those expectations like we saw from him, you know,
Speaker 4: this time last season when he burst out of the
Speaker 4: gates and he was great for the Knicks and they
Speaker 4: were winning games, and he.
Speaker 2: Was looking pretty dominant. This season again, twenty and ten.
Speaker 4: I mean, anyone would love a twenty and ten average,
Speaker 4: but it just doesn't have anywhere near the same impact
Speaker 4: that had last season. He sort of struggled to hit
Speaker 4: those big shots and carry the team in moments where
Speaker 4: they really have needed him. So there's a lot of
Speaker 4: things going wrong there in New York. They're out now
Speaker 4: that they lose Derek Rose here for eight weeks with
Speaker 4: any surgery, which is not good for them.
Speaker 2: Kemba Walker clearly hasn't panned out.
Speaker 4: He's only playing right now because they're so desperate for players,
Speaker 4: and even Tom Thibodeau. You know, this is something we
Speaker 4: talked about sort of when the Knicks hired him. He
Speaker 4: tends to have an impact on teams in that first season,
Speaker 4: a really strong impact, and then it starts to sort
Speaker 4: of lessen the impact in the seasons following that, and
Speaker 4: I think we're also seeing a little bit of that.
Speaker 2: So, you know, the Knicks were a great story last year.
Speaker 2: They made the playoffs.
Speaker 4: They started off this season with a big, big bong
Speaker 4: double overtime victory against the Celtics, but unfortunately that was
Speaker 4: pretty much their high point of the season.
Speaker 2: It's kind of been downhill ever since then. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot.
Speaker 4: Of it has been the expectations and hope that Rander
Speaker 4: would replicate what he did last season or even get better,
Speaker 4: and that just hasn't been the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got some Passcalciak and vibes from making the
Speaker 3: LMB and then coming back to earth a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Julius Reynald has not been the same. He was phenomenal
Speaker 3: last year, but yeah, the numbers are still there, but
Speaker 3: it's not the same shot make an impact that he
Speaker 3: had last year.
Speaker 1: At the top of my NBA naughty list is basically
Speaker 1: really thirty names, but I'm gonna lump them into one
Speaker 1: NBA GMS. And here's why they're not making trades. They're
Speaker 1: not given the content that we need. Look into our veins.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, they're not making deals here. And you
Speaker 1: look at some teams. I mean not all thirty teams
Speaker 1: should be making a deal, but the Blazers and Pacers,
Speaker 1: We've talked about them ad nauseum. I mean, they're both
Speaker 1: thirteen and nineteen. They need to shake it up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Is that moving a McCullum or Nurkic if you're the Blazer,
Speaker 1: isn't moving a Sabonus or a Turner or if you're
Speaker 1: the Pacer, Like, Okay, we've gone over and over and
Speaker 1: over it. They have to But then you said the
Speaker 1: Nick Lee, that's a sub five hundred team here, thirty
Speaker 1: games in The Hawks are also one of those teams.
Speaker 1: Could they use a little shake up around the fringes
Speaker 1: at least a little injection of life into that. The
Speaker 1: Hornets desperately need a big We've talked about that they're
Speaker 1: about a five hundred team. It feels like every team's
Speaker 1: almost a five hundred team. Tho it's out of like
Speaker 1: six teams in the league. The MAVs another five hundred
Speaker 1: type squad. BA could use a shakeup. So come on, GMS.
Speaker 1: And maybe Darryl Moury is the culprit of all of this,
Speaker 1: because he's sitting on Ben Simmons there and he's waiting.
Speaker 1: He wants a Lillard, he wants a Beal, he wants
Speaker 1: something sexy. I don't think it's gonna be that great,
Speaker 1: so let's just get it going here. So I'm picking
Speaker 1: NBA GMS as at the top of my naughty list.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying for selfish reasons. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: it is for us, selfish.
Speaker 3: For you, but it's also I would like that as well.
Speaker 3: Obviously JD would like that as well. Lee would like that.
Speaker 3: So Lee would love to jump on an emergency podcast
Speaker 3: from Calgary. It would just be an excuse for him
Speaker 3: to come inside and get a little bit warm. But
Speaker 3: Darryl Mourray, I like the fact that he's waiting because
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid's peak is right now. I like the fact
Speaker 3: that Darryl Moury isn't just going after a good player.
Speaker 3: I think he should wait for a rate player because
Speaker 3: if they go and get somebody on the periphery, you know,
Speaker 3: somebody who's decent. There was the Jeremy Grant name being
Speaker 3: thrown out there, who obviously would help. But I think
Speaker 3: you got to go for it in these embid years.
Speaker 3: Let's say they go get a Jeremy Grant and let's
Speaker 3: say they drop out in the second round. Even it's
Speaker 3: just I wouldn't call it a wasted season, but it's
Speaker 3: another season in Joel Embiid's brain that I guess it
Speaker 3: ain't gonna work in Philadelphia. I'm not saying he's leaving,
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, Like, it's just another
Speaker 3: one of those bad seasons. But I'm with you make
Speaker 3: a trade. It's December twenty third. I've been up since
Speaker 3: December fifteenth, when eighty four percent of the league was
Speaker 3: eligible to be traded. I've been up for eight straight days.
Speaker 3: I thought a trade was gonna happen at midnight December fifteenth.
Speaker 3: I wasn't fool. It's hard to make a trade. It
Speaker 3: is hard to make a trade. And I'm glad Mary's
Speaker 3: not pushing it. But yeah, you'd think Charlotte has to happen, Yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty soon, somebody like.
Speaker 1: I mean I went through like seven or eight teams there, Lee,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you agreed with a lot of the squads
Speaker 1: that there are moves to be made, either like really
Speaker 1: big switch ups like in case of the or in
Speaker 1: an instance of the Blazers or the Piecers or other
Speaker 1: around the fringe tape moves with a lot of them. Again,
Speaker 1: these like five hundred teams, Like we've played enough of
Speaker 1: the season to sort of know where a lot of
Speaker 1: these squads lae.
Speaker 4: That's true, Yeah, And this was one of the things
Speaker 4: that Darryl Moury kind of it was implied that he
Speaker 4: was going to wait for you know, let's see how
Speaker 4: the first quarter or first third of the season goes,
Speaker 4: and then we can start to see which teams are
Speaker 4: looking a little more desperate than others. And that's kind
Speaker 4: of now, I think what he's clearly sent the message
Speaker 4: to the Ben Simmons camp is we're not bowing down
Speaker 4: to sort of pressure from him or his agent or
Speaker 4: his people to just get him out of there as
Speaker 4: soon as possible.
Speaker 2: Daryl Moury is going to play.
Speaker 4: The long game here and he's going to wait until
Speaker 4: he gets exactly what he wants in return, or he's
Speaker 4: just going to make Ben Simmons, you know, sit out
Speaker 4: in his own sort of on his side there, and
Speaker 4: really he just has to wait. And that's the real
Speaker 4: problem here for this trade, because it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of when it happens and exactly
Speaker 4: who gets traded. But Darryl Moury is just saying, I
Speaker 4: have the power right now, I have the leverage, and
Speaker 4: I think this is one of those things. Actually, you
Speaker 4: know that the NBA, and I think Adam Silver and
Speaker 4: some of the other gms probably like the fact that
Speaker 4: player power hasn't sort of come in and overruled that situation,
Speaker 4: because you know, we saw when Anthony Davis basically said
Speaker 4: to the Pelicans, I went out of here and I
Speaker 4: want to go to the Lakers, and eventually it happened.
Speaker 4: It didn't quite happen when they wanted it to him
Speaker 4: and his team there. But Ben Simmons has said the
Speaker 4: same thing. I want to get out of here. I
Speaker 4: want to go to the Lakers or the Warriors, And
Speaker 4: Darren morri is like, sorry, that's just not happening. You're
Speaker 4: just going to have to wait until the right trade
Speaker 4: materializes that helps the Philadelphia seventy six ers right now.
Speaker 4: And so in that sense, you know, Darren Mori is
Speaker 4: just sort of saying, I don't have to trade you
Speaker 4: right now because I don't want to until I get
Speaker 4: that deal.
Speaker 2: But I think really is the right one for us?
Speaker 1: Is your power flickering over there? Why were your lights
Speaker 1: off and then suddenly back on again?
Speaker 4: Great question, one of those one of those little kinks
Speaker 4: that we're working out, A good, good one to do it.
Speaker 2: On December twenty three when a few people are distracted.
Speaker 4: Maybe we don't have the biggest audience we are hoping for,
Speaker 4: so you can work these things out.
Speaker 3: That's all we're doing here.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go to sleep for
Speaker 1: a second. You're like, Okay, that's enough. I'm talking for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, hi, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when it's cold and cozy.
Speaker 4: It does certainly feel like you want to hop under
Speaker 4: the covers a little bit more often in bed here,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think I'm back. Now, I think good
Speaker 2: spirits they're so weak.
Speaker 1: Great, you're looking great. Let's get to Santa's NBA Nice List.
Speaker 1: Then all right, let's switch it up. Who do you
Speaker 1: have tests.
Speaker 3: Stephen Curry and not not for on the cloor, on
Speaker 3: the floor, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, he's got the most
Speaker 3: threes in NBA history. I get it, he did that great.
Speaker 3: But to me, why he's nice is that he is
Speaker 3: sharing his power. He has signed a landmark agreement with
Speaker 3: Yukon's Asy Fudd as his first basketball player that he's mentoring. Now,
Speaker 3: she is a great baller herself, but now what he's
Speaker 3: doing for her is opening all the doors that he
Speaker 3: has opened, and she can just walk right in. Like
Speaker 3: every business partner, she gets to talk to. Every opportunity
Speaker 3: that Steph Curry has, every business venture that he's entered,
Speaker 3: she gets to be a part of. It's a landmark
Speaker 3: agreement where he is the mentor. This name, image and
Speaker 3: license barrier that has been dropped by college basketball is
Speaker 3: now opened up. These sort of opportunities where Steph is
Speaker 3: now mentoring azy Fudd, but she's just a first and
Speaker 3: he is obviously always given back to women's basketball to
Speaker 3: people of color, and so in this instance, yeah, every
Speaker 3: door that he's open, she can come right in and
Speaker 3: be a part of that. Yeah. It's a great article
Speaker 3: on The Athletic about it. And not only does she
Speaker 3: is she a part of the business ventures in the
Speaker 3: business side of things, but she's got access to everything
Speaker 3: you know, basketball worthy as well. Like she was at
Speaker 3: a game when they played the Nets. She was their pregame,
Speaker 3: she was there in the locker room, was maybe not
Speaker 3: the locker room, but she was there in the back
Speaker 3: hallway pre and post game, and she got to hang
Speaker 3: out with Steph during his pregame warm up. And Steph
Speaker 3: actually had a bad pregame warm up and asy Fudd said,
Speaker 3: how how do you bounce back after that? And stuff
Speaker 3: actually said this was interesting, he said, I like when
Speaker 3: that happens because it kind of makes me recalibrate, refocus
Speaker 3: when things aren't going well in pregame warm up. So
Speaker 3: that was so she's got access to that side. She's
Speaker 3: got access to every venture that Aisha Curry actually has
Speaker 3: as well. So everything that Steph has that that he's
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to get into business wise, she's there
Speaker 3: as well. So it's a it's a name, image license
Speaker 3: agreement that because because that's changed, and so I think
Speaker 3: the whole mentorship will change as well from NBA player.
Speaker 3: So this is this is the first of that type
Speaker 3: of agreement for me. He walks into I don't know
Speaker 3: who he's what was the the oxygen company the for
Speaker 3: or something oxygen water, oxygen with an eye. Anyways, she's water.
Speaker 3: She was walking. She walks in and says, Hey, what's
Speaker 3: up with your water? But she can walk into that
Speaker 3: that boardroom and have that conversation because Steph. So everywhere
Speaker 3: Steph goes, Asy goes. So that's that's a.
Speaker 1: Pretty deal between her and then Curry business.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, it's Steph's business is called sc thirty,
Speaker 3: InCor that that brand, And yes, it's a it's a
Speaker 3: landmark agreement where he is her mentor. And uh, you
Speaker 3: have to to obviously to lift up women's basketball, to
Speaker 3: lift up women, to lift up people of color. But yeah,
Speaker 3: she's she's great in her in and of herself. She
Speaker 3: was at Curry's camp in twenty eighteen, only one of
Speaker 3: two women, and she won the three point contests. Lots
Speaker 3: of NBA players there too, John Green, Anthony Edwards, Cole,
Speaker 3: Anthony RJ. Hampton were there and she won the three
Speaker 3: point contest. She's a balla.
Speaker 1: I'm get tassy with these unique answers here to the
Speaker 1: NBA show.
Speaker 3: That's great, that's great, it's Steph Steph great. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: hit shots great, but what he's doing off the court
Speaker 3: more important.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Lee, I gotta feel you're gonna get
Speaker 1: it back to the court here. This guy does though.
Speaker 1: He loves the three point shots. So I'm sure you
Speaker 1: loved that story. That was really cool. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Who do you have Lee on your you know NBA ielist.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm back here in Tranto, so I'm going with
Speaker 4: a Tirano favorite, even though.
Speaker 2: He's a bull right now. And I believe Demarda.
Speaker 4: Rosen is honestly having his best individual season ever.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 4: I mean, in terms of numbers, He's had other seasons
Speaker 4: where he scored slightly more. He's even shot slightly better
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago there in San Antonio. But
Speaker 4: to me, there is just no doubt this is the
Speaker 4: most dominant he has ever looked at. And you know,
Speaker 4: he's got the twenty seven points on fifty percent shooting
Speaker 4: only five rebounds before us is fine. He's never been
Speaker 4: a big rebound guy. He's never been a big assist guy.
Speaker 4: But when it's winning time in the fourth quarter, that's
Speaker 4: where he's just been so good, leading the league in
Speaker 4: scoring average at eight points per game, shooting fifty four
Speaker 4: percent and ninety one percent.
Speaker 2: Again, this is all in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: And just think about how many times we've seen a
Speaker 4: Bulls game and in that fourth quarter, DeRozan has clearly
Speaker 4: been the best player on the court. He's done against
Speaker 4: the Lakers, the Nets, the next, the Raptors, the list goes.
Speaker 2: On and on.
Speaker 4: And also in those games, I mean, particularly against the Nets,
Speaker 4: he was going to Kevin Durant, you know, like it's
Speaker 4: not like he's just posting up against some you know,
Speaker 4: guy who's just been called up even the co coronavirus
Speaker 4: protocols right now. He's doing it against legit defense, against
Speaker 4: legit competition. And really, what an offseason signing that has
Speaker 4: been for the Bulls, because you know, when they sign
Speaker 4: him three years or I think it was around eighty
Speaker 4: five to ninety million dollars there. You know, it's like,
Speaker 4: is this guy maybe just at the end of his career.
Speaker 4: You're really over paying for him. Honestly, right now, that
Speaker 4: looks like the best offseason signing and it looks like
Speaker 4: a bargain as well. And the fact that he's gone
Speaker 4: into a team that already had a high scoring guard
Speaker 4: slash forward there at Zach Lavine, and Zach hasn't in
Speaker 4: any way had his game interrupted or there's been no
Speaker 4: clashing between those two guys about who's getting the last shots.
Speaker 4: It's clearly DeRozan's team in the fourth quarter, and it
Speaker 4: really is paying off the Bulls. They look fantastic right now.
Speaker 4: I have DeRozan He's an absolute lock for the All
Speaker 4: Star Game. In fact, I have him down as a
Speaker 4: front court starter. I think that's still the case when
Speaker 4: thever those teams get announced. Look, he's not going to
Speaker 4: win a MVP. We're not going to get too crazy here.
Speaker 4: Sure it's Christmas, but he has been as high as
Speaker 4: number five on Sketzy's old favorite there, the Basketball Reference
Speaker 4: MVP tracker. He's not He's not to win, but he's
Speaker 4: certainly having such an incredible season, and I think it
Speaker 4: reflects on just the way that the Bulls have been
Speaker 4: this season. They've been a team that coming in, you know,
Speaker 4: we weren't sure if they were going to be a
Speaker 4: significantly improved team. I think right now, if they fall
Speaker 4: anywhere shorter than fourth in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: That'll be a bit of a leadown.
Speaker 4: I think they've been playing so well their minimum goal
Speaker 4: right now should be for a home courted vantage in
Speaker 4: the first round. I think they're going to get there. So,
Speaker 4: you know, DeRozan's been fantastic. He's been great to watch
Speaker 4: and again really stepping up. He had the nineteen points
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter against the Lakers just the other
Speaker 4: day in a close game, and that really just showed
Speaker 4: how dominant he's been and how hard he has been
Speaker 4: to defend.
Speaker 2: So lots of love here for DeMar's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, former Raptor now Bull, So you know he's you know,
Speaker 4: he's going to be loved by all the no dunks
Speaker 4: and starters crew and fans.
Speaker 1: Oh you see Trey here in the stream team actually
Speaker 1: saying that the entire Bulls team league could be on
Speaker 1: the NBA nacelest with the season they've had.
Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, yeah, for sure. I mean, and I think
Speaker 4: it goes back even to the front office. There kindition
Speaker 4: for signing Alex Caruso, you know, getting DeMar de Rosen.
Speaker 4: Of course Lonzo Ball as well. They cost them the
Speaker 4: second round pick or something like that in five years
Speaker 4: time to get Lonzo Ball. But pretty much everything that
Speaker 4: they have done in the front office has paid off
Speaker 4: for them. And Chicago's playing right now, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's still maybe a little bit of a depth issue
Speaker 4: as far as they're big man. You know that Vucci's
Speaker 4: had his moments, but at other times he hasn't looked
Speaker 4: as good and you know, in certain situations. But overall,
Speaker 4: I think the Chicago Bulls where we sit today, at worst,
Speaker 4: the third best team in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: I got a few people on my nice list in
Speaker 1: the NBA. I want to start with Joe Johnson, the
Speaker 1: Armadillo Cowboy. Yeah, I saw Joe. You saw this last night, Lely.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're watching this game. Basting up
Speaker 1: the victory over the Cavs ten point victory, the crowd
Speaker 1: was chanting, we want Joe Sky at forty years old,
Speaker 1: you know, the Big Three. MVP hasn't been in the
Speaker 1: league in a couple of years. What is it? Seven
Speaker 1: time All Star? A lot of that coming with the Hawks,
Speaker 1: but he gets it and he nails the bucket from
Speaker 1: around the free throw line. Place goes insane. This was
Speaker 1: a feel good moment in a very weird season where
Speaker 1: that hasn't been a lot to you know, actually cheer
Speaker 1: on with people leaving the lineups left and right here,
Speaker 1: but this was pretty wild test.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and usually when an older guy comes back, he'll
Speaker 3: come in clank a couple right, But Joe pure, absolutely pure.
Speaker 3: And I saw this tweet from Tim Reynolds and I
Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. Only two guys have hit baskets with
Speaker 3: the same team when they were twenty years old and
Speaker 3: forty years old, right, I couldn't believe there's only two guys.
Speaker 3: And so Joe is one of them because he was
Speaker 3: drafted by the Boston Celtics twenty years ago in two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, and he comes back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: The other one we just talked about yesterday, he's retired,
Speaker 3: but he was on our show yesterday. He made a
Speaker 3: quick appearance because he was in the broadcast booth. Lee,
Speaker 3: do you know or was it two days ago he
Speaker 3: was in the broadcast booth. He was on the call.
Speaker 3: Oh Dirk, Dirk, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, only Dirk and
Speaker 3: Joe Johnson have hit bastards on.
Speaker 4: The automatically thinking of someone who you know, maybe played
Speaker 4: one season with the team, and then it.
Speaker 3: Was a little yeah three for a loop there. But
Speaker 3: Joe looking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually honestly looks in great cheap for a
Speaker 1: forty year old lely he's been doing some bar three ethic.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It is hilarious because Doc Rivers had a quote the
Speaker 4: other day where he's been getting calls from you know,
Speaker 4: random dudes who have been out of the league for
Speaker 4: a few years, and Doc's like, there's.
Speaker 2: No way you can still play in the NBA.
Speaker 4: But Joe Johnson has kept himself in great shape, been
Speaker 4: playing really well for in the three on three there,
Speaker 4: and then just came out there and got a bucket
Speaker 4: wearing number fifty five as well, which was which was
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see. So yeah, I mean that's the
Speaker 4: silver lining to this, you know, all these players missing
Speaker 4: out right now, is that you know, there's a couple
Speaker 4: of old guys.
Speaker 2: Lance Stevenson was back to the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 1: I saw him in person down at the Fortress last night.
Speaker 1: He did not look as good as I will say.
Speaker 2: I mean, Lands is probably only thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so Joe Johnson, forty year old, just going
Speaker 4: at that getting a bucket, right.
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson set a new record for time between games
Speaker 1: with the same team too, nineteen years and three hundred
Speaker 1: and eight days. Because, as you said toast, he was
Speaker 1: drafted by the Celtics like tenth overall in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, and then he was traded that season like
Speaker 1: as a rook but then comes back last night after
Speaker 1: signing with the squad and hits the bucket. You want
Speaker 1: to play some trivially, yes, okay, because this is a
Speaker 1: great one by way of ESPN. So again, longest span
Speaker 1: between appearances for the same team. Joe Johnson has the record.
Speaker 1: Now who did he just eclipse? And I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you a hint we work that's going to be
Speaker 1: a big giveaway. One of our colleagues at the Athletic
Speaker 1: knows this man very well. I would say like we
Speaker 1: would call him Dad, almost.
Speaker 3: Would call him Dad Winnington No as in he is
Speaker 3: his son.
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe somebody at the.
Speaker 3: Athletic is the son of a guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of the players, James Edwards, that's right. I guess
Speaker 1: for the Lakers, he had a big fourteen year gap
Speaker 1: James Edwards did, Yeah, a little strange. Okay, then a
Speaker 1: lot of them have like thirteen years or twelve years.
Speaker 1: We had this guy on the show, on the Starter's program.
Speaker 1: He did a famous thing using the table.
Speaker 3: Bernard King. Bernard King, Yeah, a spin.
Speaker 1: He knows that a spin. He was showing us on
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 3: This is how spin in the post.
Speaker 1: So that's what the nets there, Lee, Okay, this one.
Speaker 1: We never had this man on the starters though, you know,
Speaker 1: we considered him. You know, he was obviously a colleague,
Speaker 1: I dare I say, a good friend. We hung out
Speaker 1: at some Christmas parties. He's obviously an unbelievable Is he
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame? Kevin go No, no, not Kavin.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he actually got in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame or maybe he hasn't yet, And that's the
Speaker 1: big controversy. Yeah you got it, Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1: Chris Webber with the Warriors, right, Okay, A Chicago bull here.
Speaker 1: But Lee, you know him as a New York Nick
Speaker 1: that's who everybody knows him as. No, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: a good that's a good guess. That's a good guess.
Speaker 1: He he played with Jordan, and then he played against Jordan.
Speaker 1: That's your big hint. And then his buddies with Jordan
Speaker 1: still Charles Oakley are two more. This is a classic
Speaker 1: raptors name task.
Speaker 3: I think if Charles Oakley is a rap well, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: give me give me a classic.
Speaker 1: So the team again, longest span between appearances. The team
Speaker 1: was the Spurs, But you don't ever really think of
Speaker 1: this guy as a Spurs player. I don't think you
Speaker 1: think him as a Raptor Robertson, No, that's that's a
Speaker 1: good guess.
Speaker 3: Willie Anderson.
Speaker 1: No, he's a big guy, got a great he's got
Speaker 1: a memorable name. There's been never another this guy in
Speaker 1: the call and final one. You keep talking about this guy.
Speaker 1: He's current player. He plays for this team that he's
Speaker 1: had the long span between it's obviously played on a
Speaker 1: bunch of teams, but you you talk about him a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like like.
Speaker 6: You, no, no, we got a current player here, But
Speaker 6: task talks about him like, uh, you make a lot
Speaker 6: of comparisons to him because this guy played like an
Speaker 6: instrumental role on a championship team.
Speaker 1: You just said it the other day. This guy's Dave
Speaker 1: like maybe yesterday, not Gary Neil, No better than Gary Neil.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy not a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 2: But what time, what team? What team is it with?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, he plays for the Lakers. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: it away now, Trevor, that.
Speaker 3: Fifth guy on a championship team, ready to do what
Speaker 3: a weird trivia question that was?
Speaker 1: So we got there. We got there. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a fascinating little fact to know though. So, like the
Speaker 1: point is Joe Johnson destroyed the previous record. I said
Speaker 1: it was like fourteen years something James Edwards nineteen years,
Speaker 1: nearly twenty years for Joe Johnson that as well. So
Speaker 1: that was a feel good moment. My other you know
Speaker 1: selection here for the NBA nice List, it's the rookie class.
Speaker 1: It's a good one, okay because you know, and look,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna go through every single guy here. Again,
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Mobley, a lot about Scottie Barnes,
Speaker 1: a lot about Kate Cunningham. But then it really is nice.
Speaker 1: I mean, Giddy does look special. Josh Giddy looks very
Speaker 1: special at times too. He does a talent.
Speaker 3: You said Giddy and Josh Giddy.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I meant I met for that second one. I
Speaker 1: mean he looks like he could be like a diamond
Speaker 1: in the rough. Duarte, He's gonna play a long time
Speaker 1: in this league.
Speaker 3: You're you're the biggest Chris Duarte.
Speaker 1: I like that guy's gonna be around for a long time.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 1: Jalen Green, I mean he's out right now. He's got
Speaker 1: the hamstringer. He did have a thirty point game. He
Speaker 1: hit eight threes in like one of his game. He
Speaker 1: had like another twenty four point games. So there's flashes there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still believe you're not giving up on him. Shan Gunn.
Speaker 3: He's great.
Speaker 1: He shows flashes of brilliance. I mean these are davy
Speaker 1: On Mitchell screams second team old defense for a couple
Speaker 1: of times. You know he's got that. And then Frank Wagner,
Speaker 1: So I'm with my own eyes last night.
Speaker 3: You're calling him Frank Wagner. Yeah, yeah, why I don't
Speaker 3: know that you got auto corrected.
Speaker 1: I wrote it down like that. I think I did
Speaker 1: get auto corrected. But twenty five points last night, he is.
Speaker 1: He's way better than I thought to the more I
Speaker 1: watch it him, I got footwork. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So much of the fun it's just saying his first
Speaker 4: name is from Yeah, Frank.
Speaker 1: I'm calling him Frank.
Speaker 3: Now you know who you know who's also giddy by
Speaker 3: Josh Gatty's play, His coach, Mark Digno. Somebody mentioned here
Speaker 3: in the stream team we passed the naughty list, but
Speaker 3: Mark Digno's got to be on the naughty list because
Speaker 3: of that crew next sweater that he wore. Okay, he's
Speaker 3: got to be on there. What are you doing with
Speaker 3: that crew next sweater? Sir? We can get away from
Speaker 3: the suits, but as we said, you need some sort
Speaker 3: of caller, you need a polo, or you need a
Speaker 3: quarter zip. That's even acceptable. But this is this is
Speaker 3: what we're I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you need a button or a zip anything.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing the same thing that Mark Digno wore, essentially,
Speaker 3: but mine's a little bit flasher. I mean he would
Speaker 3: have yeah anyway.
Speaker 1: All right, one more question here in the holiday spirit
Speaker 1: of things. What is on your NBA Christmas wish list?
Speaker 3: Test It's got to be Zion Onmson. Let's get back
Speaker 3: to the floor. Zion Wimson has to get back playing
Speaker 3: basketball now. I will say one good sign is that
Speaker 3: stan Van Gundy, his former head coach, as head coach
Speaker 3: of just one season, and even though stan Van was fired,
Speaker 3: he has come out and been in Zion's corner. And
Speaker 3: he said to multiple people on Twitter, just going after
Speaker 3: the twitterati that are coming after him, he said, you
Speaker 3: and all the other people commenting on here, you've got
Speaker 3: no idea what he weighs or what his body fat is.
Speaker 3: And none of the injuries he has had have had
Speaker 3: anything to do with conditioning. I think that's important. You know,
Speaker 3: stand Ban tells it like it is. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's he's trying to sugarcoat anything. He's clearly saying none
Speaker 3: of the injuries have had anything to do with conditioning.
Speaker 3: Now everybody's saying he's got to get in shape. Stan
Speaker 3: Van adds, of course he needs to get in great shape.
Speaker 3: Everybody does. So I like the fact that stan Van
Speaker 3: has said that. He went on to say the Joel
Speaker 3: Embiid example, at the beginning of his career and be
Speaker 3: played thirty one games through his first three seasons in
Speaker 3: the league because he missed his first two. Then he
Speaker 3: came back and played thirty one seasons and Zion has
Speaker 3: already played three times that stand vans and numbers man.
Speaker 3: So he said, yeah, that's that's a good example that
Speaker 3: Zion can can try and can try and reach for
Speaker 3: to try and be Joel Embiid and try and be
Speaker 3: that guy. Now we've talked about the.
Speaker 1: Issue of course is is he Greg Oden or is
Speaker 1: he Joel Embiid?
Speaker 3: Right, yes, when it comes to health, well, I went
Speaker 3: I went down a rabbit hole yesterday and started watching
Speaker 3: William Perry. We're going We're going back in the NFL
Speaker 3: some refrigerator highlights.
Speaker 1: I mean that man can move, Yeah, a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Sure, he's a very big man. So so there there's
Speaker 3: he plays a different sport he does, he does, but
Speaker 3: he's quite agile. He can move left to right and
Speaker 3: and hopefully Zion Williamson can emulate the fridge. No, let's
Speaker 3: hope he's more like well, he's he's nowhere like Joel
Speaker 3: and because he moves so much more explosively, yeah, uh
Speaker 3: and and and he's just he's a different, different guy
Speaker 3: that you can get into the whole science of it all,
Speaker 3: the whole physics of it all. Can this man play
Speaker 3: this sport being that big? But the fact is, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe physically you just can't. Maybe biologically he just can't.
Speaker 3: But stan Ban coming out and being in his corner
Speaker 3: for a guy again who was fired by the Pelicans
Speaker 3: after just one season, could have a bone to pick,
Speaker 3: but he's absolutely saying none of those injuries had anything
Speaker 3: to do with conditioning. And so that's a good sign
Speaker 3: for Zion obviously going forward here. And I just want
Speaker 3: to see him back because it's easy to forget all
Speaker 3: all the talk is about injury. So he did forget
Speaker 3: that he was at twenty seven points per game and
Speaker 3: sixty percent from the floor to twenty seven twenty seven
Speaker 3: in year two. I mean he didn't even have a
Speaker 3: full year one. So yeah, my Christmas wish list is
Speaker 3: to see a very very very unique player, the only
Speaker 3: player that I can connect him to plays another sport.
Speaker 3: William the Refrigerator Perry.
Speaker 1: He's like a I mean, he's like a souped up Barkley.
Speaker 1: He's super tall or bigger Barkley. He's largely yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. But he's so explosive. Okay, so Zion
Speaker 1: coming back, get back, all right, that's that's a great,
Speaker 1: great gift to have, I guess on your Christmas wish list.
Speaker 1: What about Julie.
Speaker 4: Well, look, if you go to the Basketball Reference Minnesota
Speaker 4: Timberwolves franchise in decks, it's pretty grim reading. There's only
Speaker 4: one playoff appearance since two thousand and four, and they
Speaker 4: only won one game there against the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 2: So I hope the.
Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberwolves can get back to the playoffs. That's what
Speaker 4: I want to see. They're right now, fifteen and sixteen.
Speaker 4: They've had some good moments this season. They've had some
Speaker 4: pretty bad moments as well. They're ninth right now, they're
Speaker 4: in the playing tournament as we sit here today. But
Speaker 4: I would love to see it if the tim Wolves
Speaker 4: could put everything together and just make it into the
Speaker 4: playoffs again and see what happens, because, honestly, for a
Speaker 4: couple of reasons, I want to just see Carl Anthony
Speaker 4: town see how much he's changed since the last playoff appearance,
Speaker 4: And I honestly want to see Anthony Edwards, not just
Speaker 4: on the court in the playoffs. I want to see
Speaker 4: his off court scrums and press conferences and things like that.
Speaker 4: Because Anthony Edwards talks, he is not afraid to sort
Speaker 4: of call someone out talk the talk and then go
Speaker 4: out there and walk the fort walk.
Speaker 2: He's also got the flip phone.
Speaker 4: I want to sort of see all those other little
Speaker 4: things he brings to the whole playoff picture. So you know,
Speaker 4: they're in a funny position right now, the Wolves, because
Speaker 4: this is their squad.
Speaker 2: I think it's Towns, Russell and Edwards, and.
Speaker 4: Then they've got a few other players on the periphery
Speaker 4: there who can make a contribution. But if those three
Speaker 4: guys together can just finally get Minnesota into some point
Speaker 4: where they're like, Okay, they're in the playoffs. Now, let's
Speaker 4: just see what happens. They're young, they're healthy, they're active.
Speaker 4: Maybe things can improve. Because it has been such a
Speaker 4: long time since the Minnesota Timbwolves have been even remotely
Speaker 4: close to sort of contending, and I just want to
Speaker 4: see it change. I like it's a bit like the
Speaker 4: Sacramento Kings. You know, La, Sure, we've made a few
Speaker 4: jokes over the years on them, But don't you just
Speaker 4: want to be like, oh, that fan base just deserves
Speaker 4: a team in the playoffs. And you know, like I say,
Speaker 4: right now, the Timberwolves have had some good moments. Edwards
Speaker 4: is a legit star. There's no doubt about it. He's
Speaker 4: not going to make the All Star team this year,
Speaker 4: I don't think, but I certainly think it's on the
Speaker 4: horizon for him. And he's also just a great guy
Speaker 4: off the court. So that's where I'm hoping that the
Speaker 4: Timberwolves can take this fifteen and sixteen record, get a
Speaker 4: little bit over five hundred, maybe forty five wins, and
Speaker 4: then see what happens coume playoff time, because it would
Speaker 4: be good to see them just back in their competing
Speaker 4: and in the postseason for what feels like something that
Speaker 4: just never really happens in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 1: If t K's still watching, I got one on my
Speaker 1: Christmas wish list, SI Gildas Alexander becomes an All Star
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. There's still hope. I still believe
Speaker 1: for those that are new to the show, I don't
Speaker 1: know what two or three seasons ago, we made a
Speaker 1: weird bet with SGA blossom into an All Star. Trays
Speaker 1: like now, not that quickly, I said, no, I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe, And he had a monster game last night.
Speaker 1: So this is great timing here for me making this pick.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven points, eleven boards, twelve assists, so his second
Speaker 1: career triple double in a win over the Nuggets where
Speaker 1: coach Malone, I don't know if you saw that, said
Speaker 1: get out of here, starters. That includes you raining MVP. Okitch,
Speaker 1: you're not coming back. I don't like your energy, and
Speaker 1: they didn't return. And okay, so he got to win.
Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing though, we could talk about
Speaker 1: on a different day. But in his past ten games,
Speaker 1: SGA averaging twenty five points, six assists. He had the
Speaker 1: game winner that we've already talked about. He had the
Speaker 1: game winner before that that was somehow trumped by DeVante
Speaker 1: Graham and his sixty one foot bomb. So he's hitting
Speaker 1: these clutch shots. He had a big one against the
Speaker 1: Lakers early in the season. I saw stat muse tweeting, Okay,
Speaker 1: see when SGA plays fifty three win percentage solid above
Speaker 1: five hundred, they'd be right in the mix in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference when he's out sixteen point seven wine, So
Speaker 1: not very good there. SGA, I think couldn't make it
Speaker 1: as a replacement player. And I don't want to wish
Speaker 1: an injury upon any guard that's in the West, but
Speaker 1: that will likely be his best chances because I went
Speaker 1: through the All Stars last year, Curry and Luca were
Speaker 1: the starting guards. Then you had three reserve guards in Lillard, Donovan, Mitchell,
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul Booker. Then was a replacement for Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: and then Conley was a replacement for Booker. Okay, but
Speaker 1: you're generally gonna get five, maybe six guard positions on
Speaker 1: your roster, let's call it. Let's call it probably more
Speaker 1: likely five, right, So what does that mean for this
Speaker 1: season and SGA's chances. Curry, Luca despite the maps you know,
Speaker 1: being pretty mediocre, and Mitchell are locks. Like those three
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent going to be All Stars? Right,
Speaker 1: Le you agree with that? Yeah, Okay, the Sun's record
Speaker 1: being the best team in the NBA, well, they're getting
Speaker 1: one for sure, and then maybe two.
Speaker 3: Again probably right, you would like they would have one.
Speaker 3: I would just hope that the the Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: think it's Booker it should be Booker, although Theys miss
Speaker 3: seven games. I would just hope that the coaches vote
Speaker 3: don't cannibalize each other. It's just gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: vote Booker cancel each other out because there's gonna be
Speaker 3: Booker votes, there's gonna be CP votes.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I think should one one for sure is
Speaker 1: going to I'm sorry, and then two maybe again. Chris
Speaker 1: Paul is still playing at an all star level. His
Speaker 1: numbers do not wow you, but again, they're on the
Speaker 1: maybe the best team in the league. He's the closer
Speaker 1: he has that he being a VET. Coaches go up,
Speaker 1: Chris Paul's still good pulling them back in.
Speaker 3: And they're more likely to get two guards I think,
Speaker 3: than one of those guards plus DeAndre.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, probably. Okay, So well, that's I've named five
Speaker 1: if both of them are in. But let's say there's
Speaker 1: one more spot. Even the his competition SGA's right now
Speaker 1: would be John Morant, who has missed some time too,
Speaker 1: and the Grizzlies played awesome without him. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don''m not gonna hold that against him, but he's he's
Speaker 1: played twenty games, so sixty six percent of games right now,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time before the Ulcer game, so
Speaker 1: John Morant Westbrook, but I feel like that ship has
Speaker 1: sailed right okay, right away? Okay, Anthony edwards Ley, you
Speaker 1: brought his name up. I mean I think I think
Speaker 1: he is like it's just too soon. Like you know,
Speaker 1: he's like he scores like twenty two points per game,
Speaker 1: but now he's missing time. He won't be making it
Speaker 1: this year though, like you said, in the coming years. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then de Johntay Murray and the numbers he's putting
Speaker 1: up on the Spurs and you know, okay, see he
Speaker 1: has a pretty similar record right now. It's Antonio. I
Speaker 1: think they're like a game behind him and the win.
Speaker 1: Last call point is I think I mean, is Jahn
Speaker 1: Morant or Sga. I mean Johntay Murray. He's got his
Speaker 1: fans and I love him too. He'll he'll get some
Speaker 1: recognition there.
Speaker 3: Oh it's jaw. If it's between Jah and Shay, yes,
Speaker 3: especially yeah where they are in the standings, Shay is
Speaker 3: now veering towards the bottom of the Western Conference standings,
Speaker 3: very very very close.
Speaker 1: Well, I say all that to say ye that it's
Speaker 1: close and it's going to take probably unfortunately an injury.
Speaker 1: He's got to be a replacement.
Speaker 3: Well at least he's on the spectrum. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: he's in the conversation, oh.
Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, and he is amazing and the
Speaker 1: team is obviously a completely different team when he plays.
Speaker 1: And h if it's not this year, maybe I can
Speaker 1: get trade to give me like a one more year
Speaker 1: again to our bet everything extension. Yeah, exactly. See, I
Speaker 1: don't eve think Trey would because he's smart. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: he's he's so close to it. He very he could
Speaker 1: make it next year, especially for OC case he made
Speaker 1: a move and got somebody.
Speaker 4: Yet I think I think as well, you know, you
Speaker 4: make good cases if those other players, there's the one
Speaker 4: sort of player he's going to get the veteran love
Speaker 4: from the coaches, despite the fact that he lately has
Speaker 4: been playing much better, but he got off to a
Speaker 4: terrible start.
Speaker 2: It's lilith leilard.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely going to get the respect vote.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like he's got the Lifetime Award,
Speaker 3: Like you just you just can't leave him out now really, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like it's like Joe Johnson speaking about Joe Johnson, Remember
Speaker 4: he got it, you know, for a couple of years there,
Speaker 4: and LaMarcus Aldridge has.
Speaker 2: Also had it as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there were some instances where it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean the other names that Joe Johnson was maybe
Speaker 1: making it over were not amazing like these I just
Speaker 1: took it like three or four guys that are playing
Speaker 1: at a pretty high level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it could be there, I agree, and
Speaker 4: Little It's had some injury problems as well this season.
Speaker 4: But if he played, you know, voting opens on Christmas Day. Now,
Speaker 4: we know he's not going to get voted him, but
Speaker 4: if he was to play right up until the point
Speaker 4: where the coaches have to make their choices and he
Speaker 4: continues to play the way he has the last you know,
Speaker 4: three or four games here, it's going to be hard
Speaker 4: to keep him off just because it's like, yeah, Little
Speaker 4: It deserves. It's been a rough season. Things haven't gone
Speaker 4: well there in Portant, so you know, he's got a case.
Speaker 4: He's got a strong case as always.
Speaker 3: Tough spot, tough spot to make an All Star appearance.
Speaker 3: But I do think you should get a year extension
Speaker 3: because I think there's there's two there's been year extensions
Speaker 3: all over the place. This is a this is a
Speaker 3: weird one I heard of. You see all those lists
Speaker 3: of these accomplished people under thirty, or these accomplished people
Speaker 3: under forty, even those get extended. You could be forty
Speaker 3: or forty one. Now because of these crazy last couple
Speaker 3: of years, you get an extra year. It's like the
Speaker 3: last year it didn't happen, Like you're still thirty nine
Speaker 3: or you're still twenty nine.
Speaker 1: You're saying I could make like a Best of the
Speaker 1: forty list inspite being.
Speaker 3: Forty one, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, those are happy to offline extension.
Speaker 3: Because I was asked if I wanted to be nominated
Speaker 3: for Best Greek Canadian American, this Greek thing anyways, it's
Speaker 3: just it's just being Greek. It's just it's just being agreed. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's like asked to be nominated,
Speaker 3: so it's like anybody could be nominated. I was asked
Speaker 3: if you if I wanted to be nominated, and I'm forty,
Speaker 3: so I said no, there's no I can't even think
Speaker 3: about doing it. He said, Well, the guy I'm speaking
Speaker 3: with said, well, you know, the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: Don't count everybody who's forty and over against so you
Speaker 3: get an extension. That's all I'm saying. Weird things are happening.
Speaker 1: It's a weird world list that you're on. Who else
Speaker 1: is going to be on this list?
Speaker 3: Vasili Spinoulish Classic, Kevin Pangos, Princess Prince Desi's yeah, just
Speaker 3: Greek list, just Greek names your Greek people in the world.
Speaker 3: I said, who did? Who did? I say? There Kevin Pangos,
Speaker 3: the Calves Guard, the Canadian Calves guy. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's Greek. It sounds Greek. He's not Greek. But he
Speaker 3: played Overseas Ballard that's a minutes last.
Speaker 1: Ear a new ball sounds Jewish. I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Batio. All right, let's take our first break. Lee,
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere because I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: buy you some gifts from the Hamaker caateglogue. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: you weren't on terday show, and Jad actually has a
Speaker 1: gift to open. And I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame list, so lots more STI
Speaker 1: will come here on the no dungk drop. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back all right back when No Dun's lily up
Speaker 1: in Toronto. Lee, Before I select a few gifts for
Speaker 1: you from the Harmarker Slimmer Catalog, I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your teak on the Nismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: list of nominees or eligible candidates for the class of
Speaker 1: twenty two. We talked about it yesterday, obviously didn't have
Speaker 1: you on the show. We were talking to TK what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Jernobili and a bunch of these
Speaker 1: other names, including one of your favorites and Tom Chambers there,
Speaker 1: But yeah, what was your take?
Speaker 4: Well, Tom Chambers should automatically be in the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame for still doing the being the only person to
Speaker 4: ever become a replacement player in the All Star Game
Speaker 4: to go on a win MVP. It's never been done
Speaker 4: other than when Tommy did it in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 4: So that alone, for me qualifies him as a legit
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. But unfortunately, outside of that, there's just
Speaker 4: not enough accolades. Tommy has got the twenty thousand point
Speaker 4: plato he's in there. He was a four time All Star,
Speaker 4: I think, two time All NBA. But unfortunately I'm just
Speaker 4: not sure there's enough there for him to actually qualify
Speaker 4: on meritor otherwise outside of that All Star Game performance.
Speaker 4: So it's funny to me, like a guy who hasn't
Speaker 4: played now forever twenty years, like he's finally just getting
Speaker 4: considered for it now. So I wonder what the delay
Speaker 4: was or why it hasn't happened before that. So I
Speaker 4: don't think Tommy makes it, unfortunately, but for me, Mana
Speaker 4: Genobili should be an absolute luck. And again the whole
Speaker 4: the Basketball Hall of Fame is great because it takes
Speaker 4: him more than just what happened in the NBA. Of course,
Speaker 4: he won a gold medal there for Argentina, and he's
Speaker 4: he won a lot in Europe as well before he
Speaker 4: even came to the NBA, So I think he's got
Speaker 4: more than an impressive resume to get in and to
Speaker 4: qualify him. But also Mana Genobili, if you look at
Speaker 4: his numbers and statistics and even his NBA accolades, like
Speaker 4: he's only a two time All Star, you know, those
Speaker 4: sorts of things. For a lot of people, if you're
Speaker 4: not a Sicico, think well, he couldn't have been.
Speaker 2: That good, but he was much much better. Than the
Speaker 2: numbers show for him.
Speaker 4: I mean the amount of times you know, he sacrificed
Speaker 4: for the greater good there in San Antonio, came off
Speaker 4: the bench and ended games or certainly had the ball
Speaker 4: in his hand latent games to make the right decisions
Speaker 4: for the Spurs was just so impressive. I think he's
Speaker 4: one of the most courageous, the toughest players that we've
Speaker 4: ever seen, and he was just incredibly awesome. He was
Speaker 4: a clutch player, clutch shot maker, and had some huge moments.
Speaker 4: So but I'm also like Mon who's probably easily in
Speaker 4: my top five of all time favorite players atle BIT
Speaker 4: I have, Yeah, I have a bias there, but I
Speaker 4: also think he backs it up with his resume, so
Speaker 4: I think he gets in. I think he gets at
Speaker 4: Love And then you know, I scrolled down and saw
Speaker 4: who else was in consideration there and the two Pistons
Speaker 4: guys in the back court of Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups,
Speaker 4: and I don't think Rip Hamilton gets in. I think
Speaker 4: three time All Star, one championship, good player, but I
Speaker 4: just don't think he's done enough to get into the
Speaker 4: All Star to the Hall.
Speaker 2: Of Fame there.
Speaker 4: I think Chauncey Billups has a stronger case. You know,
Speaker 4: he also had the finals MVP, which certainly helps. Think
Speaker 4: it was a four time All Star. So I think
Speaker 4: one of those guys gets in, But I don't really
Speaker 4: think it's going to be Rip Hammels, and I just
Speaker 4: don't think he really quite did enough there. And then
Speaker 4: there's another guy who, well there's two more that I
Speaker 4: just wanted to point out, and I'll start with Tim Hardaway,
Speaker 4: who was a five time All Star, five time All NBA,
Speaker 4: and he's another one I think deserves to be in there.
Speaker 4: And I think a big part of the reason he's
Speaker 4: not in there so far is because of some comments
Speaker 4: he made in the past that I think is being
Speaker 4: held against him now. He made some very biggoted remarks
Speaker 4: that were terrible at the time. He has since apologized
Speaker 4: and he has since worked to improve his belief regarding
Speaker 4: those comments, and I think that, you know, that's the
Speaker 4: thing that you can learn from his mistakes in the past.
Speaker 4: I do think they are probably being held against him.
Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see if he can finally
Speaker 4: break in, because I think for a guy who was
Speaker 4: only five to ten, you know, he had an incredibly
Speaker 4: impactful role, especially on those Miami Heat teams. You know,
Speaker 4: he was a part of the run TMC Warriors. Of
Speaker 4: course that only lasted two years. That's certainly something we
Speaker 4: looked back at, you know, more nostalgically and think how
Speaker 4: much fun it was. They didn't necessarily have all that
Speaker 4: much success in terms of playoff success there, but I
Speaker 4: think Tim Hardaway qualifies based on merit.
Speaker 2: I think he's done enough. And then there's the big one,
Speaker 2: the Shaw Marion Shaw Marion.
Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about him a ton about whether
Speaker 4: or not he's an All Star, whether or not I
Speaker 4: keep saying All Star, whether or not he's a Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer, and I think he gets in. Four time
Speaker 4: All Star, won the Championship championship there with Dallas Maverick
Speaker 4: and was certainly again another player who was better than
Speaker 4: the statistics all the way that he played, because you've
Speaker 4: got to think about this guy. You know, he had
Speaker 4: one of the ugliest shots we've ever seen in the NBA,
Speaker 4: but he was still able to average twenty more than
Speaker 4: twenty points for a few seasons there, and that to
Speaker 4: me just shows how good he was it being just
Speaker 4: being in the right spot catching ali ooops from Steve
Speaker 4: nas running the floor, getting tip ins and putbacks and
Speaker 4: just making making scores and baskets out of nothing to
Speaker 4: not get any call for him, any place called for him.
Speaker 4: So I think Sean Marion gets in. Fantastic defender, great
Speaker 4: two way player. But it'll be very interesting to see
Speaker 4: how the voting goes for him, because again I think
Speaker 4: he was more impactful than necessarily the numbers or even
Speaker 4: the eye test showed for you know, casual fans.
Speaker 1: So if you had a ballot, you're saying you're you're
Speaker 1: ticking managing Nobly, Tim Hardaway, Jouncey Billups and Sean Marion
Speaker 1: those four you think are deserving Hall of Fames.
Speaker 4: I believe so yes, of that list, I mean definitely,
Speaker 4: I would put Becky Hammond in there as well. I
Speaker 4: think she has a fantastic career and a fantastic resume
Speaker 4: and also swing cash. So I'm not sure how many
Speaker 4: do they have an who get in EA chre?
Speaker 1: Is it just you got to get I don't think
Speaker 1: there's like a max or a minimum.
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, So I think Swin and Becky Hammon also
Speaker 4: again it and George Carle also, I mean sixth all
Speaker 4: time in NBA coaching wins.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's got a very very strong case.
Speaker 4: What about Joey Crawford, Yeah, I mean you know how
Speaker 4: many games did he referee?
Speaker 2: Like must have been a couple of thousand and that you.
Speaker 4: Know at his moments of course, but I think for
Speaker 4: what he gave to the game, he certainly deserves to
Speaker 4: be in there.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think the most fascinating name that we haven't
Speaker 1: even said here from this entire list of eligible people
Speaker 1: to go in Muggsy Bokes. And I think it's just
Speaker 1: fascinating because he's a fourteen year VET and Okay, if
Speaker 1: you look at is like a cumunal of numbers. I
Speaker 1: don't have him in front of me. They're not probably
Speaker 1: going to blow you away. You know. Obviously it wasn't
Speaker 1: like a twenty point per game score or anything like that,
Speaker 1: more than a SIS guy and steel guy. But is
Speaker 1: he helped out by the fact of being five foot three,
Speaker 1: like the shortest player to ever play in the NBA
Speaker 1: and being a memorable player at that because he's five
Speaker 1: foot three and like had success, Like what do you
Speaker 1: think tass like, should that give him a bunk? Because
Speaker 1: we had like we had a big like WhatsApp group
Speaker 1: chack going with all the guys talking about the names
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and people are bringing up like
Speaker 1: what about Muggsy. Like, again, it's not gonna be numbers
Speaker 1: based as much as it's going to be like we're
Speaker 1: never going to see this again, which is probably fair.
Speaker 3: It's fair, and that helps this case in that it's
Speaker 3: not just a snowball effect of guys who are in
Speaker 3: the future going to be five or five or smaller
Speaker 3: or somewhere close to Muggsy Bogue's height and just continuously
Speaker 3: getting in if they get to, you know, some mark.
Speaker 3: It's really about the effect that he had, the impact
Speaker 3: that he had of players who want to play that
Speaker 3: word six foot four. Really, it's the off the court impact.
Speaker 3: He's still sort of an ambassador of the game. He's
Speaker 3: still around the game, but.
Speaker 1: Never an All Star, never in All NBA selection, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously not a champion.
Speaker 3: Again, it's more like the in the Builder's wing of
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame almost interesting, yeah, rather than the
Speaker 3: player part of it, right, and when what he contributed
Speaker 3: to the game, yeah, being that inspirational figure.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think Lee like no chance Muggsy
Speaker 1: ever gets into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Or no chance because you know, very popular, well loved,
Speaker 4: and also just the fact that a guy that high
Speaker 4: could have such a successful career is remarkable because you know,
Speaker 4: basketball is the one sport where you know, you're just
Speaker 4: considered to have an advantage if he's six foot six,
Speaker 4: because everyone is six foot six and you know Muggsy
Speaker 4: out there five to three running around, you know, playing
Speaker 4: at that level for so long certainly is admirable and
Speaker 4: deserves respect. So whether or not that's enough to qualify
Speaker 4: for you for the Hall of Fame, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: We know that sometimes you know the requirements basically, just
Speaker 4: it's a subjective vote that comes down to the voters
Speaker 4: and whether or not they just think that guy's deserving.
Speaker 4: So it'd be nice to see Muggsy get that on it,
Speaker 4: but I'm just not sure if he If he will,
Speaker 4: maybe not this season. So it's hard to say, really
Speaker 4: because you know those guys, if you're going for just
Speaker 4: because it was that sentimental reason because everyone loved him,
Speaker 4: then sure, But if you open it up for that
Speaker 4: for Muggsy, then you probably have to open it up
Speaker 4: for a lot of other guys too.
Speaker 1: That's fair, all right, Lee. Well, yesterday you weren't here
Speaker 1: on the show, like I said, and I went through
Speaker 1: the Hamakushlemma catalog and picked out some gift ideas for you, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I thought i'd save your gifts for when you were here, Lee.
Speaker 1: So I got a couple of things I want to
Speaker 1: get you, and we're gonna show them to you, and
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to guess how much they cost,
Speaker 1: because that's what you do at Christmas, right, You open
Speaker 1: up a gift and then and then you go around
Speaker 1: the room and our house really weird. Oh yeah, Lee,
Speaker 1: don't the gift receipt? Okay, Lee, are you still there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. So Lee, my first item that I want
Speaker 1: to give to you been a good boily. It's the
Speaker 1: Italian countertop pizza oven. You're always talking about pizza.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know you got your green egg, but let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I remember you texting my wife Sam, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this pizza dough I've got here? I can't get
Speaker 1: the cruss rate on this Kreen Egg. So I think
Speaker 1: this way help you. Lee. It's available only from the
Speaker 1: Harmacker Schlemma. This is the countertop pizza oven designed by
Speaker 1: an Italian company that specializes in gourmy kitchen weares, and
Speaker 1: it's very powerful. It's got a twelve hundred white heating
Speaker 1: element and it works in concert with a built in
Speaker 1: twelve and a half inch diameter beaking stone. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it gets up to seven hundred and fifty fair inside
Speaker 1: this little bad boy. Yeah, first off, what do you
Speaker 1: think would you like this? Ah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'd give it a shot for sure. In
Speaker 4: terms of my pizza dough my making, it's really improved.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I certainly.
Speaker 4: Was communicating with your wife Nora there early on. But
Speaker 4: you know, it's like anything, the more you do it,
Speaker 4: It's like just even with just simple things like your pancakes,
Speaker 4: the more you do it, you figure out what works
Speaker 4: for you and your family. And I was able to
Speaker 4: really improve the dough making as it went on. So
Speaker 4: what I do like though, is the you know, the
Speaker 4: compactness there of that rain, And I think that is
Speaker 4: you know, you could take that away if you went camping.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't do that with you can't do
Speaker 4: that with a big green egg.
Speaker 2: But it's a did you say like, do you just
Speaker 2: plug it in? Is that? Is that all you do?
Speaker 2: We'll have fire it up.
Speaker 1: To I believe. So it's yeah, ec plug it says
Speaker 1: right here in the round. Yeah, it's nine pounds, that's all.
Speaker 1: Where is you could take this camping?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you put this enough in a fire wind
Speaker 1: tot easily and yeah.
Speaker 4: I like versatility of it there that you can be like,
Speaker 4: all right, we go on camping this weekend and we're
Speaker 4: taking this other and now I don't know how.
Speaker 2: You're plugging it.
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, I mean there's always electric outlets at
Speaker 4: some of those campsites.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe so yeah, Okay, Well here's here's the
Speaker 1: important part of this. How much do you think this costly?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, god, this is a real price, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Where it could be like eighteen hundred bucks or it
Speaker 4: could be like one hundred and thirty three dollars. I'll
Speaker 4: go somewhere in the middle. I'll stay two hundred and
Speaker 4: forty nine ninety five.
Speaker 1: Okay, GD you want to have a crack at.
Speaker 5: This, yeah, you know, I mean I'm sort of I'm
Speaker 5: concerned about the size of this thing because these pictures
Speaker 5: are very deceiving. Look at the spout on the olive
Speaker 5: oil here, right, I mean that's massive. How bit does
Speaker 5: it say how big it is?
Speaker 1: Well, it does say that it's fourteen inch is in
Speaker 1: diameter the whole thing, And then it says nine basically
Speaker 1: nine inches in height. I assume that means when you
Speaker 1: open the well maybe.
Speaker 3: Not maybe not fourteen that's a fourteen inch pizza.
Speaker 5: No way, that's like a nine inch pizza.
Speaker 1: Well it it says built in twelve and a half
Speaker 1: inch diameter baking stone. Pizza's gonna be a little smaller, but.
Speaker 3: Well, that's pretty big. Still, it's that bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, from pizza for one or two.
Speaker 1: Anyway, any any pizza can be for one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't start Please don't.
Speaker 1: See that personal theory. Okay.
Speaker 5: Anyway, all that to say, this would never fly in
Speaker 5: my house because you know, I have two teenagers who
Speaker 5: eat NonStop. But I think that this is priced around
Speaker 5: ninety nine is my guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, task, what do you think.
Speaker 3: I'm going to capitalize on JD's mistake? He said ninety
Speaker 3: nine five? Well, Proprahamaica Schlemk. Price there, you guys are
Speaker 3: way too high.
Speaker 1: Actually, Lee, when you were saying I don't know if
Speaker 1: this thing's gonna cost eighteen hundred dollars or one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three dollars. You were very close when you
Speaker 1: said that one hundred and thirty nine dollars and ninety
Speaker 1: five cents for an Italian a right countertop pizza. Stop bad.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys are into it, Lee, I got
Speaker 1: just something you really want though. It's all you like
Speaker 1: to do is shoot hoops, so let's just please the Aussie. Okay.
Speaker 1: Here it is the LED scoring indoor basketball hoop. Let
Speaker 1: me get you some details about this. This is the
Speaker 1: over the door basketball hoop with the built in LEDs
Speaker 1: and a shatterproof backboard score display that shots. Yes, the
Speaker 1: backboard can withstand vigorous slam dunks, while the nine and
Speaker 1: a half inch metal rim has a durable eight loop
Speaker 1: net that provides an optimal target for long shots. I
Speaker 1: love when they just don't know what to write in
Speaker 1: these things and they just gets so wordy. An infrared
Speaker 1: sensor detects shots and automatically registers points on the LED
Speaker 1: display with an accompanying sound, which you can turn off.
Speaker 1: Fits over most doors. It includes a ball and a
Speaker 1: hand pump lely does require three triple A batteries to
Speaker 1: keep the score there. But I thought you'd like that
Speaker 1: league and shoot in the dark.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I can't believe just how software technology has
Speaker 4: infiltrated the indoor basketball hoop world, because when I was
Speaker 4: a kid, we used to have this plastic thing that
Speaker 4: you know, you would hang over to the.
Speaker 2: Door you have to close the door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just from three boys growing up in the house,
Speaker 4: we've dunk on it and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: And I remember Mum would just get like sticky taper,
Speaker 4: just sticky taper back together whenever we got broken and
Speaker 4: cracked and stuff.
Speaker 2: Because it was there was no mesh net either, was.
Speaker 4: Just like the plastic and then less plastics, you know,
Speaker 4: smaller plastic around the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: So you know that copped the beating.
Speaker 4: That must have been like five bucks back in the day.
Speaker 4: Now that looks like a super like sourced up version
Speaker 4: of that. And I mean it's almost like too much
Speaker 4: for just indoor basketball hoo, because I mean three L three,
Speaker 4: what did you say, the battery.
Speaker 3: Wowing on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, someone comes out of your house
Speaker 4: like your kids gone around a plane and they like that.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you're a bit fancy, aren't you.
Speaker 5: Boys, takes three double a battery. Excuse me, excuse me?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Like it certainly looks like it allows for
Speaker 4: dunking that it would you have the sort of snap
Speaker 4: back dunk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, vigor is dunking right.
Speaker 1: This thing will break literally in five minutes. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what do you think of Castley?
Speaker 2: Probably forty nine ninety five?
Speaker 1: Okay, forty nine ninety five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, put me down for seventy five dollars seventy five and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go seventy ninety five.
Speaker 1: Did you see this pitch? No dos and elvit sat
Speaker 1: ninety five? Well, the led scoring indoor basketball hoop? All right, lis,
Speaker 1: so you're getting you're getting some pizza and some hoops.
Speaker 1: That's like your dream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, listen, I would love those gifts for sure.
Speaker 4: I definitely would put the map, encourage a voice to
Speaker 4: play while I go and tinker with the with the
Speaker 4: old oven there and see if I can, you know,
Speaker 4: see if I can improve my pizza making skills on
Speaker 4: that little thing.
Speaker 3: But I like it.
Speaker 2: I definitely would use both of those items.
Speaker 3: Okay, I wonder if you can make creeps on that thing,
Speaker 3: lee or a cream that looks like a bit of
Speaker 3: a crape maker might be a mess. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they get that utensil where they spin it
Speaker 4: around and you know it's really really thin, I mean
Speaker 4: you just have to have one of those for crape So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's extra for sure.
Speaker 1: I'll keep I'll keep looking through the magazine and I
Speaker 1: can find you a crate maker probably is a thing.
Speaker 1: You can buy it from the Hallmarker Slama. You can
Speaker 1: actually keep the music going if you want, JD, because
Speaker 1: I want to get to you, back to you. I
Speaker 1: know we did the gift, but we actually have a
Speaker 1: real item for you to open here the studio. Uh
Speaker 1: before you do a little backstory, Okay, to set the scene.
Speaker 1: On a November fifth Drop podcast, one of the rapid
Speaker 1: fire questions that we had, I think I was asking
Speaker 1: it was for you guys to paint the picture of
Speaker 1: what your very own city edition Jersey would look like.
Speaker 1: You remember that, and you guys all had great answers.
Speaker 1: JD's was amazing though, because Jad went the extra step
Speaker 1: and you, like, you showed us your own creation, and
Speaker 1: I'm showing it to everybody here in the stream team.
Speaker 1: You went full on Beaver and you went with the
Speaker 1: YYZ because you said you were a fan of like
Speaker 1: the you know, airpl airport code, and you got you
Speaker 1: added a lightning bolt for some.
Speaker 5: Reason there because lightning bolts are really really hot right
Speaker 5: now in the city editioners, there's at least three with lightning.
Speaker 1: Barks right right, okay. And then you went with the
Speaker 1: Salad King as your sponsor, and you got the baby Blue.
Speaker 1: You like that you have some plaid on the sides
Speaker 1: even there because you were like that from the Rip
Speaker 1: City Jerseys today. So anyway, I bring all of this
Speaker 1: back up to have you opened that gift here okay,
Speaker 1: right now on the air as he reaches down and.
Speaker 5: Graps it reaching now, let me switch to min.
Speaker 7: On it.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5: This this came Priority mail a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and I thought it was for you because it has
Speaker 5: your name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see I've been anyway.
Speaker 3: Thank you USPS. Baby.
Speaker 1: This is well, I'll let you open it first and
Speaker 1: then i'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: Obviously it says Nike air air Force, Nike, thank you.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 5: S all right, cool and open it up. There's a car.
Speaker 5: Should I read the card?
Speaker 3: You ken?
Speaker 5: If you want, I'll read it.
Speaker 1: Just get to the gift.
Speaker 5: Whoa, Okay, cool, this is cool. Okay, this is really cool.
Speaker 1: So show off to your camera here inspired by JD's
Speaker 1: Very City j Kay David is the artist that created this,
Speaker 1: so you can follow shoe furry excuse me, fury not furry.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of the beaver. Shoe fury.
Speaker 5: That is amazing.
Speaker 1: He does some handpainted footwear here. Yeah, and that so
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. He's got the plaids, got the beaver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the color, I got the lightning now.
Speaker 3: He nailed it.
Speaker 1: He said, the baby blue is infused with metallic silver
Speaker 1: that will glitter in the right light. Really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and your beaver was much angrier looking, so he went
Speaker 1: with a more like cartoony okay, fair enough sort of
Speaker 1: mascot you vibe, and I like that was the right call.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He is smiling while shooting deadly lightning bolts. These are awesome.
Speaker 5: What size are these?
Speaker 1: They're your size? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Do I wear them?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 5: It seems them When.
Speaker 1: He was showing them to me, I was like, I
Speaker 1: think JD will wear these. Like there's a lot going
Speaker 1: on there. There is a lot play. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think JD might wear them though.
Speaker 3: I think you got your airplane shoes, JD.
Speaker 5: Am I weary to wear these on the plane tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Please do.
Speaker 5: It's like the last for my passport. And I'll just say,
Speaker 5: look down there.
Speaker 3: People loving them, a lot of flames.
Speaker 1: Shout out to again, Kay David, thank you shoe, Thank
Speaker 1: you Fury custom.
Speaker 3: That is amazing.
Speaker 5: Inst I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you'd like that. We've been sitting on
Speaker 1: those for a while. All right, I'm happy you're happy.
Speaker 1: I did nothing except tell them your shoe size and
Speaker 1: wear to sun them. By the way, that was all
Speaker 1: by the artist.
Speaker 7: Nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the best Christmas ever so far. That's not even
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 1: Well, we are lots more still to get to here
Speaker 1: on the Drop podcast, because we've got a very important
Speaker 1: pick them that we have to select. You and I
Speaker 1: are tied. You've got tweeted the night h and we
Speaker 1: got rapid fire fund. So don't go anywhere. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back back with no dungks. Let's get to tweet
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 3: Tweet out the night, Wow tweet. Well, if you've watched
Speaker 3: any basketball games recently, you won't recognize the players on
Speaker 3: the floor. Yeah, absolutely will not. And it was taken
Speaker 3: to a whole other level for the game in Atlanta
Speaker 3: last night, Orlando visiting the Hawks, and I was mostly
Speaker 3: on the Magic side. But I'm giving myself tweeted the
Speaker 3: night because basically I just tweeted the names of the
Speaker 3: players who were playing mostly for the Magic. Listen to
Speaker 3: these names. These aren't a fake at all. They're not
Speaker 3: part of Trey Carby's fake names list, although I hope
Speaker 3: Trey's listening because he can add them to the list.
Speaker 3: These players were playing in the NBA on December twenty one.
Speaker 3: Hassani Gravit, Admiral Schofield.
Speaker 1: I actually remember him. He played for the Wizards. The
Speaker 1: name for a second, I think.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, anyway, that's sick oh mode right there. I
Speaker 3: don't know he played. He played Summer League, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: I know that Lance Stevenson, we know that name. That
Speaker 3: was the one name playing for the Hawks. These other
Speaker 3: three names also played for the Magic. BJ Johnson, aleam Ford,
Speaker 3: and Tim Fraser a classic name.
Speaker 1: We've actually met before.
Speaker 3: Yes, great great man, great man. So he's back. So
Speaker 3: there's six names Hassani, Gravit, Admiral Schofield, BJ Johnson, aleem
Speaker 3: Ford the four that I had literally had never heard of.
Speaker 3: And then so when I went to the box score,
Speaker 3: aleam Ford got the NBA logo treatment for his head shot.
Speaker 3: Pretty impressive. They had all the other guys head shots,
Speaker 3: to be honest. But what was wild was in the
Speaker 3: arena because you were there, Skeech. You took a photo
Speaker 3: of the scoreboard, Schofield, BJ Johnson, Freddy Gillaspia, leam Ford,
Speaker 3: and Tim Fraser their faceless basketball players because if you're
Speaker 3: if you're watching with us right here, no headshot, no nothing,
Speaker 3: just a gray silhouette for five different basketball players. Amazing
Speaker 3: and and and and and and and they won the
Speaker 3: basketball game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that. BJ Johnson was on fire.
Speaker 3: Six guys who weren't in the NBA last week playing
Speaker 3: for the Magic signed and beat an NBA team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alle, It was a wild time down at the
Speaker 1: Fortress last night, but it was actually sort of fun.
Speaker 1: We got there super early. I went with my buddy
Speaker 1: Grish and his family, and we got there like, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes before the game. So everybody's warming up
Speaker 1: and it was the ultimate like who is that? We
Speaker 1: were like, who's that guy? And then they're asking me
Speaker 1: because I do an NBA, but I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I have no idea who that guy is.
Speaker 1: And so we're trying to figure it out. And then
Speaker 1: the game start and a lot of them were playing
Speaker 1: and playing all right, like j Johnson was hitting big shots,
Speaker 1: like a couple of big threes that kept stopping the
Speaker 1: Hawks run. But it was it was wild. People were
Speaker 1: also very confused why I was taking a photo of
Speaker 1: that scoreboard. But I was like, I bet this has
Speaker 1: never happened here in State Farm down at the Fortress
Speaker 1: where all five or silhouettes, I mean, they had something
Speaker 1: wrong on their own team there. Did you notice it?
Speaker 1: Said Cooper, But it was Delon Wright's photo, so they
Speaker 1: had that happens, Yeah, that happens from time to time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a bunch of silhouettes lee it was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well Tim Frazier I recall him because I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure he got a triple double, like he played for.
Speaker 1: The Pelican.
Speaker 4: And it was off the bench or something like that
Speaker 4: as well. It was one of those like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe at the end of the season you think, Okay,
Speaker 4: next season, I've got to get that.
Speaker 2: Guy in fantasy basketball.
Speaker 4: You know, if he's putting out triple thought, maybe legit,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: It was the acountary, right, Wasn't his nickname the accountant? Really?
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm not sure, but find great.
Speaker 3: It's an account it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these last.
Speaker 4: Couple of nights have been watching games and I am
Speaker 4: just like, oh my god, I honestly have never even
Speaker 4: heard of that guy.
Speaker 2: Had here with like sixteen points. You're like, good on him.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you can stick around of the NBA.
Speaker 1: But some of these guys are making, you know, in
Speaker 1: their ten day deals what they made all seas long
Speaker 1: in the G League.
Speaker 3: Some of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's sort of I mean, that's great. Like
Speaker 1: you said, that's the one positive of all of this,
Speaker 1: of all these unfortunate, you know, guys leaving the lineups,
Speaker 1: the star players or whatever, even role players leaving the
Speaker 1: line ups because of health and tafety protocols with COVID,
Speaker 1: is that a bunch of people are getting.
Speaker 3: Paid and coming back in the league. Like Lance Stevenson.
Speaker 3: I was Lance for the Atlanta Hot.
Speaker 1: Lance was not making them dance last night.
Speaker 5: No, somebody's got to be It was rough making a
Speaker 5: doc about this, right, like, oh, hopefully hopefully there's somebody
Speaker 5: out there. I mean it should be us really, but
Speaker 5: we're busy over here. But that's going to be the
Speaker 5: next sports or there's going to be like as sports
Speaker 5: move movie about it in a couple of years, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the movie would have to be one
Speaker 1: of these, like nobody's right going for fifty in a game,
Speaker 1: like just catching fire or doing the whole Jeremy Lynn
Speaker 1: thing where like it's suddenly insanity two point zero and
Speaker 1: you know that would be a story for sure. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: ended up being a fun game, you never know, like
Speaker 1: it was got somewhat competitive magic of course won all
Speaker 1: these guys that nobody knew who they were. The Hawks,
Speaker 1: by the way, were missing a bunch of guys too,
Speaker 1: Like the roster was not There was guys on their
Speaker 1: team that I was like, who's like, do you know
Speaker 1: Mays Skyler Maye? That's right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, see I didn't include them in my tweet of
Speaker 3: the night. And because I knew the guys, I knew
Speaker 3: the first round draft picks that they were finally playing
Speaker 3: who had played with the.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Admiral Schofield three games.
Speaker 3: I did not. The man's name is Admiral Schoolfield.
Speaker 1: Nose goodness.
Speaker 4: I remember it just because of that, because of his name,
Speaker 4: But I couldn't tell you a single thing from his
Speaker 4: career that actually happened.
Speaker 3: The only Scofield I know is Dick Schofield. I don't
Speaker 3: know I used to turn the DP. It's like I
Speaker 3: know that name middle endfielder.
Speaker 1: If your last name is Scofield, you have to have
Speaker 1: an awesome first day. Dick and Admiral.
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate that he turned the DP and his name
Speaker 3: was Dick, but that's says that what results.
Speaker 1: No, there are no picking results. Actually, excuse me, because
Speaker 1: we were going to do a game and then it
Speaker 1: got postponed. Bowls Raptor. So let's just set the scene
Speaker 1: here for everybody in the month of December. You don't
Speaker 1: want to be last because you have to pay it off.
Speaker 1: I owe like three of them. It could be a
Speaker 1: fourth because I'm in the running here to lose this
Speaker 1: one too, But you and I are tied with a
Speaker 1: six and nine record.
Speaker 3: Nice. I feel bad about that. I just made I
Speaker 3: didn't want.
Speaker 1: To three, so this is big Now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we have a couple of shows next week. It will
Speaker 1: still be December, so we'll be picking games still, so
Speaker 1: there's some wiggle bore. But I would say this is
Speaker 1: a very important game between you and I. So what
Speaker 1: is our name?
Speaker 3: And the schedule is absolutely stacked tonight. There's a ton
Speaker 3: of games, yes, yes, here before Christmas Eve. I believe
Speaker 3: eleven of the twelve games still happening. Only one game
Speaker 3: postponed as of right now as we're talking right now,
Speaker 3: and a big one the Spurs visiting the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3: The spread only one and a half for the Lakers.
Speaker 3: That's how poorly the Lakers have been playing. You'd think
Speaker 3: that they'd be a bigger home favorite. But you believe,
Speaker 3: you believe that they bounce back after their their last
Speaker 3: loss against the Phoenix Suns.
Speaker 1: Believe as a strong one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I was literally going to go for
Speaker 3: whatever you picked. I'm taking the opposite because it's I
Speaker 3: think maybe the Lakers are looking forward to Christmas Day.
Speaker 3: They're still playing on Christmas Day. Maybe this will be
Speaker 3: a trap game against the Spurs. So Lee and myself
Speaker 3: are taking the Spurs. You and Trey are taking.
Speaker 1: The angles Lakers on fire.
Speaker 3: Okay, why do you think the Spurs? You're the Spurs? Manly,
Speaker 3: why do you think the Spurs are taking care of business? Sing?
Speaker 2: Honestly, when it's a point and a half line, it's
Speaker 2: a bit of a coin, sat.
Speaker 4: The Spurs have just been playing really good basketball, or
Speaker 4: you know, much better basketball over these last few weeks.
Speaker 4: And the Lakers, it really is a hit and miss
Speaker 4: as to what team you're going to get from them
Speaker 4: to show up. But as long as Lebron's healthy, the Lakers,
Speaker 4: you know, they're always a chance, of course, But just
Speaker 4: like the way the Spurs has quietly been going about
Speaker 4: their business.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's wrap up this Drop podcast. Let's
Speaker 1: wrap up this week. Let's send JD on vacation in
Speaker 1: his new shoes with a little rapid fire. Fine, Leally,
Speaker 1: you've got the cues this week?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
Speaker 4: And with so many players becoming unavailable due to health
Speaker 4: and safety protocols, the Boston Celtics, as you mentioned, they're skis.
Speaker 4: He signed the Armadilla Cowboy. Yes, I sold Joe back
Speaker 4: on a ten day. The forty year old last played
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, so what's something that you think it
Speaker 4: is time to bring back skits?
Speaker 1: Well, I have two answers. The first obvious answer, al
Speaker 1: else's gotta come back. I'm telling you, how is it
Speaker 1: not back? I think it's a fair question. We bring
Speaker 1: back every show and movie ever made. When's Elf getting
Speaker 1: the reboot? Okay? Also, this is a really weird one.
Speaker 1: I started thinking recently about the video game cool Spot
Speaker 1: for the Sega Genesis.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they made a video game out of the mascot
Speaker 1: for seven up and I rented this game as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I remember beating it and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I just beat cool Spot. You would think it would
Speaker 1: be a garbage game, but it actually was not that
Speaker 1: bad at the platform game. So I don't know, bring
Speaker 1: back cool Spot, bring back the Sega Genesis. So those
Speaker 1: are my weird answers.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was totally unprepared for this question. So I texted
Speaker 5: my brother with all of the questions and he said,
Speaker 5: key parties. So it's now I'm answer. My brother would
Speaker 5: like to bring back the key party. The key party
Speaker 5: is where you go to a party and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: you put your keys, your car keys in a bowl
Speaker 5: and then you pick out car keys and you go
Speaker 5: home with you know, the other person's partner, and he
Speaker 5: would like to bring that back. So so thank you
Speaker 5: Ryan for that that answer, and I apologize for not
Speaker 5: having my own answer for that.
Speaker 3: I thought they got to take on the other person's car.
Speaker 3: But yeah, more than that, Yeah, yeah, never heard of
Speaker 3: such a thing.
Speaker 5: You never heard?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I had forgotten about.
Speaker 1: Them being coy.
Speaker 4: All right, Tessey, what do you want to what do
Speaker 4: you think it is taught to bring back?
Speaker 3: Well? I want to bring back after all this Krock
Speaker 3: talk recently Lebron wearing these special limited edition crocs, get
Speaker 3: out of here. What you need to bring back are
Speaker 3: these and one slippers. These babies, now, they have seen
Speaker 3: better days. The yellow here, don't mind the yellow. Just
Speaker 3: look at the beautiful woven fabric here as I show
Speaker 3: them here on YouTube. These were Crocs before crocs. I mean,
Speaker 3: these are legendary. They were actually retail priced one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty dollars Canadian back in the day. I waited,
Speaker 3: I waited till they went on sale. But these are
Speaker 3: called and one Select slippers, so and one you know
Speaker 3: they're slides before slides type thing. Go to your basketball
Speaker 3: game where these and then ball out, Yeah, they're ugly
Speaker 3: right now, but the blue woven when they're brand new,
Speaker 3: bring them back just as comfortable as crocs and like
Speaker 3: ten percent less ugly.
Speaker 2: I'd say, yeah, definitely less ugly than thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, the I just never have ever ever thought
Speaker 4: crops of the cool.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 2: Eighty circumstances, they don't.
Speaker 3: They're already in that state. They've been around I don't know, seven, eight,
Speaker 3: nine years, whatever it is, and they're already in that
Speaker 3: that like ugly era mode, Like, oh they're they're cool
Speaker 3: now because they're ugly. I've always been.
Speaker 5: What are run had?
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Classic Factory officially opened this week, although it
Speaker 4: was only Skeets and TASS and JD there in attendance.
Speaker 4: The space is looking sexy, guys, but could still use
Speaker 4: a piece of two or two of memorophilia. So what
Speaker 4: classic TBJ slash starters, slash free agents, slash no Dunk's
Speaker 4: item do you think still needs to be added?
Speaker 1: Skeets, The obvious answer is the starter's flag that we
Speaker 1: have that we got signed by all of the players
Speaker 1: that came on our show. But the issue with that
Speaker 1: the thing is gigantic, Yes, so I mean we'd have
Speaker 1: to drink somewhere.
Speaker 5: Is too big and it's not that attractive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. It's just it's cool that it's signed
Speaker 1: by a bunch of Hall of Fame Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the size of it is the issue. So I'm going
Speaker 1: something much smaller really, in fact, something digital. I think
Speaker 1: what we need to get, and it's from infinite objects.
Speaker 1: You guys know, I'm in the top Shock game with
Speaker 1: my guy TK. Right, we've talked about the Weggie moment before.
Speaker 1: It's on the platform Anthony Simon's Chase Down block and
Speaker 1: it sticks as a wedgie. Well, what you can do
Speaker 1: with your NFTs and especially your top Shot moments is
Speaker 1: you can get this basically digital print if you want
Speaker 1: to call it that, or this like ever looping display
Speaker 1: of the moment. So I think we need to have
Speaker 1: that here on set of the Weggie moment, and it's
Speaker 1: just like either hung up on the wall, maybe it's
Speaker 1: on the desk, Maybe we'll get a bookshelf in here,
Speaker 1: and it's just forever forever.
Speaker 3: It's like when you have family photos and you put
Speaker 3: them into digital displays. It's the same thing, but it's
Speaker 3: a basketball play. So there we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get an Anthony Simon's Weggie moment, just on
Speaker 1: constant repeat.
Speaker 3: Like we used to have screwed down cases for cards
Speaker 3: like physical sports cards. And I got a Digi.
Speaker 1: The Future Man, it is j to be added to
Speaker 1: the simps.
Speaker 5: Shit, I need an assistance, Yeah, I need you in
Speaker 5: this set. Actually, But.
Speaker 3: We did a.
Speaker 5: Back in twenty fifteen, we did a bit. It's one
Speaker 5: of my favorite bits that we did as the starters,
Speaker 5: and it was remember somebody threw a pickle onto the
Speaker 5: floor of the game and it was just like the
Speaker 5: game had to stop, and it was really one of
Speaker 5: those weird NBA moments, and of course we glombed onto
Speaker 5: it and we staged a protest where our soundman, Danny
Speaker 5: Danny Boy dressed him in a pickle costume and he
Speaker 5: invaded our set. And I have a little clip for
Speaker 5: it for it, so here it is stand by here
Speaker 5: it comes that.
Speaker 3: You'd write your Christmas card. It's just a really really
Speaker 3: nice pot something were better than regular jerseys.
Speaker 1: Agree with that, like the Pelicans, the Thunder, the Caps.
Speaker 7: Pickle Pickle three, the pickle for you don't pickle? Sorry,
Speaker 7: what's the deal now, pickle?
Speaker 1: Sorry about the pickle? We uh, let's just take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll get this cleaned up.
Speaker 5: I want that pickle costume.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: If Danny was standing next to me here, this would
Speaker 5: make this whole thing so much easier. But I don't
Speaker 5: know what happened to that pickle costume. And it was
Speaker 5: just like I remember coming up with the idea, we're
Speaker 5: gonna have somebody in a pickle outfit. We just gave
Speaker 5: it to Scenic and this was sometimes they came back
Speaker 5: with we weren't sure, like tiny little uh, you know
Speaker 5: NBA teams in balloons. But that time they nailed it.
Speaker 5: It was just out of foam corp, a printed pickle
Speaker 5: with the head cut out, and it was goddamn perfect.
Speaker 5: And I wish we still had the costume, and maybe
Speaker 5: not Danny, but to put his face in it, you know,
Speaker 5: like and then just sort of put it up. I
Speaker 5: don't know, I feel like we lost it.
Speaker 3: I think it might.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was in the cage.
Speaker 5: It was in the cage, but I think, you know what,
Speaker 5: Danny might have went down and grabbed.
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean, the pickle plucker.
Speaker 5: Well, just because he knew we were leaving, and it
Speaker 5: was like, well, this is you know, this is my legacy.
Speaker 3: This is we'll get cap Land on the case.
Speaker 1: Yet you as the number one suspect in a pickle fever.
Speaker 1: You love pickles, Damn right, I've given you love? How
Speaker 1: many pickles if I have given you over.
Speaker 3: Over the years. So you get a sandwich, discard the pish. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll be the George Costanza and going, how how many
Speaker 3: pickles have I picked? Yeah? For sure I.
Speaker 4: Had many pickles. If a lump chest that I tasty,
Speaker 4: it must be a big Canadian. They came out, you know.
Speaker 1: Like we had a Canadian.
Speaker 2: I felt like it because I was like, I'm back
Speaker 2: down and I'm getting pickles for lunch. I were great.
Speaker 3: How did they come out? And that like they were
Speaker 3: coming out there marching together.
Speaker 4: The little bit We had like a big sort of
Speaker 4: whole table set up there with all sorts of different
Speaker 4: foods and there was just a little bowl there with
Speaker 4: pickles in them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let's get into the pickles.
Speaker 4: I had about probably four, only little ones, I think
Speaker 4: they're a bit more friendlier to consume than just one
Speaker 4: big lump of a pickle, you.
Speaker 2: Know, because you can sort of snack on the little ones.
Speaker 1: Because you just use the weirdest adjectives sometimes us because
Speaker 1: a big pickle.
Speaker 2: Is more intimidating.
Speaker 4: If I this pickle, I've got to get through the
Speaker 4: whole thing where it's a little ones, like you can, like,
Speaker 4: all right, if I quiet it and it's not that good,
Speaker 4: you can just finish it off rather than you know, well,
Speaker 4: you can discard it, of course, but it's better if
Speaker 4: you just have one.
Speaker 2: They've tried it.
Speaker 1: I had, But hey, you love pickles so much. If
Speaker 1: he were to take a big bite out of all
Speaker 1: lump of a pickle and then not want the rest
Speaker 1: of it, would you eat it?
Speaker 3: I'd be happy to share a lump with le. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's know that.
Speaker 2: Lady in the tramp style.
Speaker 1: We could do it. Yeah, that's the pickle pe off
Speaker 1: if we have a tie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two men have to eat a pickle.
Speaker 4: That that could be a nice pickle pee out there.
Speaker 4: You just have to eat pickles for the whole show.
Speaker 3: There you go, pickle yeah, baby corner, Uh make it
Speaker 3: a big lump I.
Speaker 1: Like relish pickles, those sweet relish pickles. Those are good.
Speaker 3: I love all pickles. What about those ones that Ted's
Speaker 3: those slice ones they come in to board pickles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're to talk.
Speaker 3: About those are good.
Speaker 1: It's right up the road from here. Well not anymore.
Speaker 4: Went out of business so there, Yeah, yeah, ran out
Speaker 4: of pickles. Yeah, they're selling Christmas trees up there these days.
Speaker 2: Where are we here?
Speaker 3: Where has the answer?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: What what?
Speaker 2: Pick a lot of yet.
Speaker 3: To the abs studio. Well, it's funny JD pick the
Speaker 3: pick the man, because I also am not picking an object.
Speaker 3: I am picking a man. I'm picking a person who
Speaker 3: I'd like to add to the set. And it is
Speaker 3: the talented sur Foster, the man who plays the organ
Speaker 3: down at the Hawks Arena. We had him for one
Speaker 3: show in the Starters studio a long long time agoes
Speaker 3: actually for a pick them payoff. Where as soon as
Speaker 3: Skeets was talking, I believe he would start playing music
Speaker 3: and you had sense from it. Again as you spoke,
Speaker 3: every single time you spoke, Sir Foster would play another hit.
Speaker 3: And so yes, I would just like Sir Foster, the
Speaker 3: talented talented musician, get down there. He plays the horn,
Speaker 3: he plays the saxophone, he does the keyboards as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just feels right if he was here.
Speaker 3: It would feel right in this garage space for him
Speaker 3: to be on the keys playing some hits. So Sir
Speaker 3: Foster's might.
Speaker 1: Pick the Magic Hawks game. The rosters were so depleted,
Speaker 1: not even Sir Foster was on the keys. Last name
Speaker 1: was a replacement guy. Really yeah, oh really yeah, because
Speaker 1: our seats were like right by where he plays in
Speaker 1: the Little Bowler and uh yeah, it wasn't even him.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to say.
Speaker 3: Hello and getting everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I have no Look, don't quote me
Speaker 1: on that. I don't know if he's in health and
Speaker 1: safety protocols as well. There was no surf Foster last night. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: le final one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's wrap this up because I've got a reverse
Speaker 4: Surf Foster need right now.
Speaker 2: The NBA has.
Speaker 1: Told hold on that I thought that you had to
Speaker 1: take a dumb but you just have.
Speaker 4: To just yeah post show Sir Foster. Right, Okay, the
Speaker 4: NBA has told you that makes more.
Speaker 3: Sense because anybody knows what that means.
Speaker 1: Other than sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4: The NBA has told teams to be prepared to be
Speaker 4: flexible with their.
Speaker 2: Christmas Day game. Yep.
Speaker 4: So what is your Christmas Day plan and how locked
Speaker 4: in is it?
Speaker 2: Skeets.
Speaker 1: I would say it's pretty locked in and it's very simple.
Speaker 1: French host for breakfast Nora has locked that in. We'll
Speaker 1: do some gift giving, mainly just to give some funny
Speaker 1: little gifts to Luna see how she reacts to them.
Speaker 1: And then the one other requirement is we have to
Speaker 1: play the entire Bony m Christmas album front to back.
Speaker 1: That has to happen. I'm not very likely, uh, hanging
Speaker 1: out with some friends here in the city. We're obviously
Speaker 1: not traveling anywhere, so maybe even you even tasmell fantastic
Speaker 1: pickles will be had, no doubt. Yeah, so very simple.
Speaker 1: That's not exciting answer. I'll probably go for you know what,
Speaker 1: We'll probably go for a walk, maybe even a run,
Speaker 1: because the weather's looking real nice. It's not gonna be
Speaker 1: minus thirty here Lely, it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like plus twenty plus twenty two.
Speaker 1: They're saying, wow, Wow, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: JD.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm heading to Canada. I haven't had a day
Speaker 5: off in months, really, so I'm gonna be sleeping, eating,
Speaker 5: And I've been told I'm my job for the I'm
Speaker 5: going to be at my brothers and it's going to
Speaker 5: be waste management consultant. So I think I'm in charge
Speaker 5: of the trash, which is perfect, the perfect job for
Speaker 5: me to do on Christmas Day because it's simple. I
Speaker 5: don't have to talk to anybody. I just gather things
Speaker 5: up properly, separate all of the recyclables and the greens
Speaker 5: and the browns and whatnot. And yeah, and then I
Speaker 5: actually may watch a basketball game. Wow, just you know,
Speaker 5: for a nap time, you know, on the couch hang out.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's pretty much locked in. If I can
Speaker 5: get across the border.
Speaker 1: That is good luck with that, Thank.
Speaker 5: You, thank you.
Speaker 2: I don't have to talk anyone the true spirit of Christmas.
Speaker 3: Joy.
Speaker 1: Your brother has told you in advance that you will
Speaker 1: be cleaning up the garbage and recycling.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, as I said, I sent him all the questions,
Speaker 5: so he said, yeah, you're in charge of garbage.
Speaker 4: I'll try drawing the cocase while you're doing the garbage
Speaker 4: at back the hid By the way, I.
Speaker 1: Hope you're not going to a keys party with your brothers.
Speaker 3: Oh that would be very weird.
Speaker 4: That would be strange as bring us on.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I'll be the WMC at my house
Speaker 3: as well as the waste management consultant. I'll be doing that.
Speaker 3: But I think my one job will be to wear
Speaker 3: this sweater. I mean that's my plan. I'm just wearing
Speaker 3: the sweater, and then this Christmas sweater I'm wearing. I
Speaker 3: love the feel of it. And then I'm just going
Speaker 3: with the flow. Yeah, presents outdoorsy, put the phone away,
Speaker 3: and then just then just feeling it out. Not There's
Speaker 3: not a whole lot of planning, so I don't really
Speaker 3: have a good answer for this. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: a non plan.
Speaker 1: Really, you're getting some use out of that sweater, though
Speaker 1: you're already in an Instagram phone. Are wearing it or
Speaker 1: you're not?
Speaker 3: Yeap, second time I've worn it. Second time you got
Speaker 3: to wash in between because it was by the fire.
Speaker 3: Oh my nose is getting a little more sensitive to
Speaker 3: fires these days. Oh yeah, I don't really. I don't
Speaker 3: like the smell of a campfire as much like.
Speaker 5: This smell of the smoke on you afterwards. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: and he gets in the beard, it gets in.
Speaker 1: Everything in your hair and then you you shower, you shampoo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's still on you.
Speaker 3: It's true away. Some people love it, though I used to.
Speaker 3: I used to used to love the smell of gasoline.
Speaker 3: Still love that, dude. Yeah, of course it's weird.
Speaker 5: Going into the car not coming out of it, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, like not burning gas. But I'd
Speaker 5: love to give my finger a little sniff after I
Speaker 5: pumped the gash.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I used to like that for sure. I
Speaker 1: had never thought about this jend, but you just reminded me.
Speaker 1: With the whole campfire thing. We had Luna over at
Speaker 1: Grisham's my buddy Grish, our buddy.
Speaker 3: Grish, everyone your buddy Grish.
Speaker 1: At this point. Uh, you had the fire going during
Speaker 1: the day, like you know, it was like three four
Speaker 1: or five o'clock and my dog Lute is there. Didn't
Speaker 1: even think anything of it. And this guy Grisha'm like,
Speaker 1: that guy's a pyro. So it's like burning everything and
Speaker 1: smoke everywhere, and then we get home it's like, oh
Speaker 1: we stink nor and I stink of the Empire, and
Speaker 1: then the dogs out.
Speaker 5: She's got long hair too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how many shampoos was that still doing? It
Speaker 3: still doing it. Yeah, yeah, it's tough to get.
Speaker 1: Out crazy crazy stuff. All right, great questions there, Lee
Speaker 1: in rapid Fire. That is the Drop podcast, our final
Speaker 1: show of the week, final show from the Classic Factory
Speaker 1: for a little Bit too. Will be back on Monday
Speaker 1: with a new No Dunks podcast and then on Thursday,
Speaker 1: the only two shows next week. But JD's gone, so
Speaker 1: Andrew Schleckt is going to be filling in for JD.
Speaker 1: But we won't be here. We'll be back on the
Speaker 1: stream yards, back on the zooms, just looking at our cameras,
Speaker 1: not you know, engaging one on one. But in the
Speaker 1: new year, JD's back, Lee's back, Tk's back, and the
Speaker 1: plan is to all be here in the new Classic Factory,
Speaker 1: which JD A lot of people are digging great. Look
Speaker 1: the sound, the vibe awesome. So that's good. And when
Speaker 1: we're still working on it some uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: got a new desk coming and all that. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Two, January third. As long as Jady gets back, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll be back as well.
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Speaker 1: And again, we will be back on Monday. I know
Speaker 1: you and I are going to be on. Who else
Speaker 1: is TK joining us? Lee? Are you joining us on Monday?
Speaker 1: I can't camp track anymore?
Speaker 2: Not Monday now.
Speaker 4: I think they'll be taking the week off in Calgary. Wow,
Speaker 4: we'll see, unless there's some breaking news. You know, this
Speaker 4: is a big trade, big scoop, something out. Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that you're ready for the can't jump
Speaker 1: on the normal shows. But hey, it's something.
Speaker 5: If it's worth my while, I might gain you with
Speaker 5: my presence.
Speaker 4: But actually, just before we go, testy, I'm going to
Speaker 4: be saddled. Well, I'm supposed be at the saddle Thome
Speaker 4: on Monday night. Flames oiler is tilt?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: I thought the games. I thought they were canceled until
Speaker 1: until Chrised.
Speaker 2: Until I think Christmas date.
Speaker 4: This one scheduled for the twenty seventh so yeah, flames
Speaker 4: and oilers?
Speaker 2: Wow, can of David Man?
Speaker 5: He's hot?
Speaker 3: Rice, stop saying that.
Speaker 1: What's worse? You're a Canadian accident or my Australian a.
Speaker 5: That'd be a good pick and pay off. You have
Speaker 5: to speak in each other's accent. Wow, be great for us,
Speaker 5: terrible for the audience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are going to go ahead, go ahead?
Speaker 2: Who's the netmind of these days? For the Flames?
Speaker 3: I forget Mike Vernon, No I Meka kippers Off, No,
Speaker 3: I forget Who's who's a man in the nets?
Speaker 5: Andy Moog?
Speaker 2: I just hope he stands on his head, whoever he is.
Speaker 3: You know, we got a.
Speaker 2: Classic like forty three stayed effort. You should have seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, are you bad? Nothing the game of
Speaker 3: hockey right now?
Speaker 1: No, why are you going that's what happens?
Speaker 2: That Isn't you have forty three saves? It's like he
Speaker 2: stood on his head.
Speaker 3: They go, yeah, forty two, he didn't stand on his head. Listen,
Speaker 3: you are going to an incredible rivalry. You were watching
Speaker 3: the oilers and the Flames. You're going to be writing
Speaker 3: an article on the Athletic just like you did when
Speaker 3: you want to watch the song actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna write it, all of it,
Speaker 1: and then he'll find out he's doing it in an interview.
Speaker 4: I saw the Canadians goaltender the other day. You should
Speaker 4: have seen the safe he made like he did the
Speaker 4: old backhander like that, like the fuck missed him and
Speaker 4: he whacked it with his.
Speaker 2: Hand out and say, oh man, great, great goal. So listen.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 2: Yeah Againler Gretzky.
Speaker 4: Maybe those girls will be there and for this big
Speaker 4: one at the saddle Dome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have gone. You should go to the
Speaker 3: Hockey Hall of Fame there in Toronto. Againler was just inducted.
Speaker 3: Oh is that right? Yeah? He deserves it too, great man. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a way to wrap up a drop podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, Lee, will you take the week off unless
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons gets traded? Uh, enjoyed the hockey game.
Speaker 3: If it happens, I'll say the deal for the athletic
Speaker 3: it starts on Christmas Day. If you're looking right now,
Speaker 3: it'll happen if you look on the twenty fifth, twenty sixth. Okay,
Speaker 3: fifty of you.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, guys, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us here. Shout out to all the stream teamers.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Pop Squad and the Discord Hoard.
Speaker 1: We love all of you. Stay safe during the holiday
Speaker 1: season and again We'll be back on Monday the twenty
Speaker 1: seventh with a fun little podcast for you all. Till then,
Speaker 1: Clipper Ros you heard it here first, have a great
Speaker 1: time turn up.
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome. Thank you for joining us, and
Speaker 3: I hope that you enjoy the holidays as much as
Speaker 3: no dunks enjoys our lumps of pickles.
Speaker 1: Embrace the holidays, people,