Speaker 1: It's Memorial Day. We're recording this today, Memorial Day. We
Speaker 1: should be at a barbecue together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be eating ribs.
Speaker 3: We should be Wait, are you really trying wait, hold on,
Speaker 3: let me get this straight going.
Speaker 2: Are you really trying not to eat meat nowadays?
Speaker 1: I am a pescatarian. I'm trying that out.
Speaker 2: When did you become a pescatarian?
Speaker 1: I watched this documentary that really got me inspired about
Speaker 1: stopping eating animals besides fish.
Speaker 2: You sound like my dad. My dad is the same
Speaker 2: way right now.
Speaker 1: The documentary was it's called the Game Changers. Is that
Speaker 1: what it's called? Yes, game changers. So, but I've never
Speaker 1: done anything. I love burgers, I love I love all
Speaker 1: this shit. We all have eaten our whole lives. But
Speaker 1: we have all this time on our hands. Right, It's
Speaker 1: like an experimentation time on every front, right, Like you
Speaker 1: can experiment with you know, I've been experimenting with all
Speaker 1: sorts of things in my life. Is I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people have. And one was like, okay, well
Speaker 1: let me just try this this during this time to
Speaker 1: only be a fish. And I do feel better, I
Speaker 1: do feel healthier.
Speaker 2: Well that's great, but I know you're I.
Speaker 1: Know you're very meat passionate.
Speaker 4: Donald.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to stay away from the red meat.
Speaker 3: That's the hardest thing to stay away from. It's so tasty.
Speaker 3: So I've been trying to figure out different ways to
Speaker 3: cook a chicken, and I've been doing that a lot lately.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: I do agree that too much meat is bad for you, obviously,
Speaker 3: because you know, cholesterol says something about that, blood pressure
Speaker 3: says something about that, heart disease, colorectal cancer says a
Speaker 3: lot about that, you know what I mean, And that's
Speaker 3: when you eat too much red meat, usually or processed foods.
Speaker 3: I'm having a hard time getting off of all of
Speaker 3: that stuff though.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you last night we had a
Speaker 1: fake burger.
Speaker 2: You had Beyond Burger.
Speaker 1: It wasn't one of the fancy ones.
Speaker 2: Beyond.
Speaker 1: It wasn't beyond it impossible. It was the only two
Speaker 1: names I know, and we just got it at a supermarket.
Speaker 1: It was a nice a nice brand. I forgot the brand,
Speaker 1: but it was amazing. I mean, once you put cheese
Speaker 1: on it and all the fixens and your spices, it's great.
Speaker 2: But once you put the cheese on it.
Speaker 3: You're no longer prescytarian whatever it is that you're tresctarian.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I'm I can eat cheese. I'm just not
Speaker 1: eating I'm not eating meat. I'm not eating I'm not
Speaker 1: eating any form of meat other than fish.
Speaker 2: All right, well should we sing?
Speaker 1: You don't seem happy. I want you to get happy.
Speaker 1: You seem very dumb if you can't sing unless you're happy.
Speaker 1: Donald's very old.
Speaker 2: Song, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: You just you have a furrowed brow.
Speaker 2: I am very happy, first of all.
Speaker 1: Okay, well let's let me see it. We're about to
Speaker 1: bring on Randall Winston, one of the most exciting people.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited, but I don't want him to see you.
Speaker 1: Better turn that motherfucking bearded frown upside down.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you something right now.
Speaker 3: Randall Winston is responsible for some of the most happiest
Speaker 3: moments of my life.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to have him on.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, then count these motherfuckers in.
Speaker 2: Five, six, seven, eight, motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: Here's some story I'm not show. We made about a
Speaker 5: bunch of tips and nurses.
Speaker 6: He said he's a stormy neal, so Ganda around here,
Speaker 6: Ganda around here.
Speaker 7: Sweat me.
Speaker 1: There he is? Why is he wearing like a gaming headset?
Speaker 4: That's the only headset I can find.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're so normal.
Speaker 2: You're play an Xbox later, buddy.
Speaker 1: Did we interrupt you from call of duty? Or are
Speaker 1: you flying a chop? Are you flying a chopper anytimes too?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're so excited to have you on
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, we hear you.
Speaker 4: Just awesome. Yes, these are this is my son's gaming
Speaker 4: heads I knew it.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is gonna be I wish the
Speaker 1: audience could see Randel is wearing a gaming headset. But
Speaker 1: if you don't play games, picture a helicopter headset, right,
Speaker 1: and he's in his beautiful garden and he's wearing his
Speaker 1: kids gaming inset.
Speaker 2: Well that literally is it? Literally is a game?
Speaker 4: Lights up?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: I love it? I love it. How are you man?
Speaker 1: How are you? Randy?
Speaker 4: I am fantastic, I mean, of things considered, I'm great.
Speaker 2: You know, congratulations on your pickup.
Speaker 4: Yes we did.
Speaker 3: We didn't get picked up, Randall, but.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you didn't get picked up. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 3: ABC decided not to go further with Emergents, but better news,
Speaker 3: ABC decided to go further with Mixed Dish, which is
Speaker 3: Randall's show. Now, let me get this straight. Randal, you're
Speaker 3: executive producer on the show.
Speaker 4: Now that is correct.
Speaker 2: Look at you man started.
Speaker 1: At rand We gotta go back because Randall's career is
Speaker 1: on FA and I think if for people that want
Speaker 1: to go into Hollywood, Randall is a really exciting case
Speaker 1: of someone that's on Fuego right now.
Speaker 3: Well, not only is Antuego. I remember a video. I
Speaker 3: don't know how I saw this video, but it was
Speaker 3: a video of you pretty much manifesting your destiny, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, saying this is what I want
Speaker 3: to do. I want to move to Hollywood. I want
Speaker 3: to be a I want to be a big time producer.
Speaker 3: And you know, and you're very young in this video too.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I saw this video.
Speaker 4: It was it was posted by a friend of mine.
Speaker 4: It was we were like it was our twenty first
Speaker 4: birthday or something like that. This is a girl who
Speaker 4: I met on the journey to Los Angeles. We met
Speaker 4: at a rest stop in Oklahoma and became life for friends.
Speaker 4: We were on our way to come find our dreams.
Speaker 4: And she was very into documenting everything and Donald, I
Speaker 4: can't believe you saw that. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Donald and I are very into well I don't know, Donald,
Speaker 1: I think you are, but I'm very pro right now
Speaker 1: manifesting your shit and making everything happen. My friend, our friend,
Speaker 1: Amanda is missed like whiteboard and writing everything down. And
Speaker 1: actually I became friendly with John Legend's manager. I think
Speaker 1: I've told you this story Donald, who said that everything
Speaker 1: that John Legend has accomplished they put on a whiteboard
Speaker 1: when they were kids, like out of out of college,
Speaker 1: and they were like writing down, like they were laughing,
Speaker 1: like I don't know this many Grammys and cover a
Speaker 1: Time magazine and they were just like cracking each other up.
Speaker 1: And She's like, every single thing we put on that
Speaker 1: whiteboard happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Legend got an egot.
Speaker 1: He's got well, Randall's gonna get a fucking egot, especially
Speaker 1: for his acting skills.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 1: No, we had to get into it because Donald called
Speaker 1: me out to Randall saying that I dissed his work
Speaker 1: as Death in the show, and Randall texted me very
Speaker 1: upset about his work is death being criticized?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I played the part that was
Speaker 4: required of death. And I also, you know, death is
Speaker 4: not the only role that they played on Scrubs. You know.
Speaker 3: No, you also, well, we haven't gotten to the to
Speaker 3: the security guard yet. He hasn't been introduced yet, the
Speaker 3: hook the hook handed security guards.
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot that you were the hook handed security guard.
Speaker 4: Leonard who had letter Letard, who had tens of fans?
Speaker 1: Randall, how many episodes did Leonard do? Do you think?
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how many episodes he did, but
Speaker 4: I will tell you this, all fans that wrote to me,
Speaker 4: so many people from Men's prison got some sort of
Speaker 4: treat assigned script or something from Scrubs.
Speaker 3: So you are you aren't able to you weren't you
Speaker 3: were able to do it and not get carport tunnel,
Speaker 3: is what you're saying, because there's only like tens of them.
Speaker 1: Exactly would you really give fan mail?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I got like not a.
Speaker 1: Lot, but you got more fan mail Leonard or death.
Speaker 4: Leonard? For sure?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's start at the very beginning.
Speaker 3: I tried to do that with you manifesting your destiny.
Speaker 3: But at some point things changed for you, Like you
Speaker 3: lived in New York for a little bit and then
Speaker 3: you moved to Los Angeles. Can you just tell us
Speaker 3: how it all started and how you got connected with Bill,
Speaker 3: and how this became and how this all trans send
Speaker 3: it into scrubs.
Speaker 4: Yes, the truth is Bill and I met socially first.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, on scrubs. We kept a
Speaker 4: graduation photo in Turk and JD's apartment and told everybody
Speaker 4: that was our graduation picture. But we really we met
Speaker 4: on the basketball court. I had an I had an
Speaker 4: old room, so I had I had driven out from
Speaker 4: the Midwest, you know, I kind of trying to find
Speaker 4: my dream, got to Los Angeles, snuck onto all the
Speaker 4: lots in town, got myself a job, and I started
Speaker 4: creating my circle, you know, your chosen family, your la family,
Speaker 4: and a guy who was my best friend, who I
Speaker 4: lived with, a guy named Greg Malon's who went on
Speaker 4: to run friends, and how I met your mother, and
Speaker 4: a bunch of other stuff. He and Bill had this
Speaker 4: played in this Saturday game and invited me to play
Speaker 4: a few times. And that's how that was how I
Speaker 4: originally met met Bill. I went from working for a
Speaker 4: guy named Gary Dave Goldberg. That was my very first job.
Speaker 4: He's the guy who created Family Ties. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was amazing. He was an amazing mentor and he had
Speaker 4: taken Bill under his wing. So so Gary is in
Speaker 4: some ways the reason that we started working together. And
Speaker 4: the first show we did together was a show called Champs.
Speaker 4: That was the first show we did together and Kevin
Speaker 4: Neilan was in it and it was it was DreamWorks
Speaker 4: very first TV show.
Speaker 3: So that kind of okay, Just to so Kevin Nilan,
Speaker 3: who Zach remembers being at the first party we ever
Speaker 3: had in our scrubs up. That's why Kevin Nielan was there, Zach.
Speaker 3: He wasn't there because he was a fan of the show.
Speaker 3: He was there because he worked with Bill and Randall.
Speaker 1: Okay, well he may have been a coincidence, but okay,
Speaker 1: I'll hear you, okay. Randal v. Froz are you still there?
Speaker 1: Oh boy?
Speaker 2: And that was when we lost random.
Speaker 1: Oh god, what are you drinking there?
Speaker 2: Momosa, little Mimosa. Memorial Day, Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 1: The think about Memorial Day is it's just another weekday
Speaker 1: that you can rationalize it's okay to drink early. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in this day and age, it doesn't feel any different.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend was like, it's a memorial day. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how is that going to be different from any other
Speaker 1: day that we're living in hibernation right now?
Speaker 2: Well, kids, we can drink. Yeah. The kids don't have
Speaker 2: to get on zoom today.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you have kids, they don't have to get
Speaker 1: on their zoom things.
Speaker 3: But but today is a is a day where you know,
Speaker 3: my wife looked at me, it was like, you're drinking already,
Speaker 3: and I was like, it's it's.
Speaker 1: A memorial day.
Speaker 2: It's a memorial day.
Speaker 1: So did she then join you?
Speaker 2: No, she did not. She was like, you're an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, be like, baby, it's a
Speaker 1: Memorial Day.
Speaker 3: And on that note, I'm going upstairs to do my podcast.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Randall says he's resetting the Wi Fi. Oh god, that's
Speaker 3: that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: You know, we lost all the momentum of blowing this
Speaker 1: guy up. We're gonna have to regenerate it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to regenerate it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to regenerate our Randall blow up.
Speaker 2: He said, fucking Spectrum.
Speaker 8: I just had my dad switch off of Spectrum for
Speaker 8: the same reason that shit is do do.
Speaker 1: Trum is bad. Dan, you don't support no, guys, I
Speaker 1: want you to listen. This is a very very technical
Speaker 1: man here, and he's saying fuck Spectrum. So if you're
Speaker 1: choosing a provider, listen to Dan.
Speaker 8: The only way that I found that you get good
Speaker 8: internet service is if you just switched from provider to
Speaker 8: provider every year or so. Because they don't reward loyalty.
Speaker 8: There's no like your bill is reduced, your service is better.
Speaker 8: It just gets worse and worse and worse, and they
Speaker 8: want to keep getting new customers. So I have gigabit Internet,
Speaker 8: a thousand megabytes up and down for seventy five bucks
Speaker 8: a month, which is the cheapest Internet I've ever had.
Speaker 2: And it's just because I switched.
Speaker 1: I What are you using now, Dan? AT and A
Speaker 1: T and T All right, Well, guys, you're hearing it
Speaker 1: a year first that Dan really recommends AT and T.
Speaker 1: It's really about you can work the companies against each other.
Speaker 1: If you're constantly quitting one and saying no, fuck off,
Speaker 1: you suck, and then they give you a better rate.
Speaker 1: So if you have the time, which you do now,
Speaker 1: you two can have fancy fast internet like Dan Randall
Speaker 1: welcome back, blowing you up. And then you had to
Speaker 1: do a Wi Fi problem.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's get back into it.
Speaker 1: So you let's just jump to in the spirit of time,
Speaker 1: let's just keep this moving. You start work on Spin
Speaker 1: City with Bill, and you hit it off. You become besties.
Speaker 1: You're partying around the city. Your young men in Manhattan, go.
Speaker 2: And make it from LA. How did you get from
Speaker 2: LA to Manhattan? How did that happen?
Speaker 1: Well, we're playing Donald no doubt.
Speaker 2: Fuck you man the fight. If I could reach through
Speaker 2: this screen right now.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what, it goes back to basketball. We
Speaker 4: came off the basketball court one night playing and uh,
Speaker 4: Gary and Bill pulled me aside and they said, you know,
Speaker 4: we just wrote this pilot.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: We sent it to uh. We sent it to Michael J.
Speaker 4: Fox and they said, there's a character. The mayor is
Speaker 4: named after you. I think your mother would be very proud.
Speaker 4: Mayor Randall Winston and uhlaid by the great Berry box
Speaker 4: work and with the show Gut. We did the pilot,
Speaker 4: but Michael was living in New York and said he
Speaker 4: would only do this series if we took it to
Speaker 4: New York. So that was the opportunity of a lifetime,
Speaker 4: you know, change my life. I got the chance to
Speaker 4: go to New York. Garry took a select group of
Speaker 4: people and Donald you know Sebastians, Do you guys know
Speaker 4: Sebastian gents. We moved. We all went to New York
Speaker 4: with all excitement, like nobody was over anything. Everybody just
Speaker 4: was into going to the city. You were, How old
Speaker 4: were you I was? I think I was twenty nine.
Speaker 4: I think I turned thirty that year. But Bill was.
Speaker 4: Bill's like a year younger than me, and he had
Speaker 4: like the first American Express black card, and he would say,
Speaker 4: you know, Randall go out and find us in after
Speaker 4: hours every Friday. So there'd be lines at these after
Speaker 4: ours clubs and they're like, you know, absolutely, we don't
Speaker 4: have any room. I'd be like, you got room now, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Now Now I say, I say, I need two cases
Speaker 4: of champagne and a private room. And that was just
Speaker 4: the beginning.
Speaker 2: Right now, I got to tell you something.
Speaker 3: Some of my favorite moments, some of the best moments
Speaker 3: of my life I've shared with you. Rend you have
Speaker 3: been present at some of the most special moments, some
Speaker 3: of the most wildest moments, some of the craziest moments
Speaker 3: of my life have been with you there.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: Everything, everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him and
Speaker 1: his wife and everything in between, Randall has been there.
Speaker 2: He has been there.
Speaker 1: How many people have you married, Randall?
Speaker 4: U seventeen successful couples? Donald? What I said? I said,
Speaker 4: you got to be serious, because everybody I marry stays together?
Speaker 2: Right? How many? How many people have gotten divorced?
Speaker 4: Zero?
Speaker 1: You got a good streak.
Speaker 4: I don't have people messing with my streak up now.
Speaker 1: Now, Randal, If I'm listening to this, I was preparing
Speaker 1: for this, and I thought, if I'm listening to this
Speaker 1: and I'm interested in production, but I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about it. I see in the credits all the time
Speaker 1: a line producer, but I see exec producer, I see
Speaker 1: associate producer. I see all these titles. Could you explain
Speaker 1: to people that have nothing to do with the business
Speaker 1: what a line producer does?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it is. It's true that the TV credits
Speaker 4: are lousy with producers, and usually if the credit is
Speaker 4: line producer or produced by that credit is reserved for
Speaker 4: the person who is essentially responsible for keeping the train
Speaker 4: running on time, making sure that you've got the right
Speaker 4: group people in the right place, making sure that the
Speaker 4: show is on budget, that it is getting delivered on time,
Speaker 4: not just within the time concerts of your time slote,
Speaker 4: but delivered the day that it's supposed to be delivered,
Speaker 4: you know, sort of soup to nuts. That it starts
Speaker 4: with the prep, which is, as it sounds, the paring
Speaker 4: of the show. When you first get a little bit
Speaker 4: of information about the about the series and each episode,
Speaker 4: you know, you start to break it down with your team.
Speaker 4: You know, how many actors are we going to need,
Speaker 4: do we need to build sets? Are we going out anywhere?
Speaker 4: And what is it going to take? And I think
Speaker 4: that job at its best is a negotiator and a translator.
Speaker 4: You know, that's somebody who you know, oftentimes it was
Speaker 4: between I'm working between Bill on scrubs, between Bill who
Speaker 4: created the show, and the studio and the network. So
Speaker 4: everybody's getting what they need and even when they're not
Speaker 4: speaking the same language, or figure out what the best
Speaker 4: thing to accomplish what's in the script is can be
Speaker 4: accomplished within the box that's been built.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the line bruisers. Also, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: the keeper of the purse in a sense that when
Speaker 1: you're directing or show running, you will often think, oh,
Speaker 1: I think we should I wrote this big scene. It'd
Speaker 1: be great to shoot it in this amazing restaurant. And
Speaker 1: then I want to get a crane outside that's gonna
Speaker 1: come down here, and then it'd be cool if it
Speaker 1: was raining outside. This is when the line producer starts
Speaker 1: to sweat, when we start to go, wait, we need rain,
Speaker 1: need rain, every every time.
Speaker 4: Every time Zach got a directing assignment, before there was
Speaker 4: even a script, he could come here and say, I
Speaker 4: need a crane exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fucking script says, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a big ass cran. But so it's
Speaker 1: the line producer's job, almost like a parent, to be like, look,
Speaker 1: you use the dollar and you got your candy bar.
Speaker 1: You should have saved it and you could have gotten ice.
Speaker 4: Cream, yes, right, you could have. You could have one
Speaker 4: big thing or two little things right right.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times it's negotiation, like you like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know they're keeper of the money. But in terms
Speaker 1: of the money, it's not just the camera gear, but
Speaker 1: how many crew, how many extras are you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to afford? Are you gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: any overtime on? All of that is off into the
Speaker 1: releaseship I often have with the line producer. As they
Speaker 1: say it, think of it like a Chinese food menu,
Speaker 1: in that you're choosing from a myriad of things that
Speaker 1: you can have, but you can't exceed that budget. So
Speaker 1: if you do want a big ass crane, then maybe
Speaker 1: you can't have as many background at the wedding.
Speaker 4: It's so funny that you say that. I oftentimes it
Speaker 4: crossed my career have literally made a Chinese menu for
Speaker 4: directors and producers, you know, because you inevitably get to
Speaker 4: a point and Bill and I used to have, you
Speaker 4: know something back then it was like the thousand dollars deal,
Speaker 4: which was once we had locked the budget, he was
Speaker 4: not allowed to bring me any problems that cost more
Speaker 4: than one thousand dollars. Like I could figure it out,
Speaker 4: you know, if it was a thousand or under. But
Speaker 4: you know, you can't be adding stuff once we're once
Speaker 4: we started rolling.
Speaker 1: Now on screen back in the day, we would do
Speaker 1: a lot of overtime, which which now people don't really
Speaker 1: do anymore, right, I mean, on your jobs now, are
Speaker 1: people pretty much keeping it to twelve hours these days?
Speaker 4: It depends, really, I mean for the for the most part, yes,
Speaker 4: but a lot has changed. You know. We did for
Speaker 4: a big chunk of that show a true single camera show,
Speaker 4: which is almost all shows have more than one camera
Speaker 4: rolling at the time now, so you can get more
Speaker 4: work done within the hours you can get you know,
Speaker 4: for those who do people know that just been single
Speaker 4: and multi like usually on the single camera show, you're
Speaker 4: getting one angle at a time, shooting one actors close up,
Speaker 4: and then you turn around and get the other actor,
Speaker 4: and the more actors in a scene, you know, the
Speaker 4: more times you're turning, And if you have multiple cameras,
Speaker 4: then you can get multiple shots. But on a show
Speaker 4: like Mixed Dish, you know, or you know, American Housewife
Speaker 4: or any show that's got a family, you know, family
Speaker 4: show as opposed to community, you're up against kid hours.
Speaker 4: So those shows in particular are held to a bricter standard. Hoowers.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you, I love it when
Speaker 3: kids are on the show now and you're working the
Speaker 3: show because you're not going past twelve hours. Dude, you
Speaker 3: might not even do eight hours that day, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love so I did Emergence this uh this last
Speaker 3: year didn't get picked up ABC.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You were great in it.
Speaker 1: Donald, by the way, you were great in that show.
Speaker 1: I think we should pour some out for Emergence of Emergence.
Speaker 3: But I remember we had two very young ladies on
Speaker 3: the show and they were in school and once they
Speaker 3: showed up to set, we had the clock was ticking.
Speaker 3: We had eight hours to get them done or they
Speaker 3: would they turned into a pumpkin yea, And so I
Speaker 3: used to love that.
Speaker 2: It would be like, are the kids working today? They'd
Speaker 2: be like yeah, and I'd be like, great.
Speaker 3: That means I'm done before you know, I'm done before
Speaker 3: the sun goes down. Is when the kids weren't working
Speaker 3: that you were like, oh my god, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: here forever.
Speaker 2: Well, random, you see kids on.
Speaker 3: There, you can make it right right, You'd be like,
Speaker 3: I can make that eight o'clock movie tonight.
Speaker 1: Randall, you and I always got along so well. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the relationship between a director and a line producer
Speaker 1: could be contentious because the director feels like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: taken away. You're not you're not working with me, you're
Speaker 1: not making it, you're not helping me realize all the
Speaker 1: things I want to do. Of course, the line producer
Speaker 1: has a stressful job. You're like, dude, you're killing me.
Speaker 1: You're so over budget, what the hell are you talking about.
Speaker 1: But but when the two are friends and they feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's work it out, then then then it never gets contentious.
Speaker 1: But of course sometimes when people don't get along, the
Speaker 1: line producer and the director don't always like each other.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that, uh, it has been to the
Speaker 4: great benefit of my career in general. Part of it
Speaker 4: is just I think the way that I like to
Speaker 4: work is that the goal is to be symbiotic. Like
Speaker 4: you know, when people think that it's contentious, it is contentious,
Speaker 4: but you know, we're all rowing in the same direction.
Speaker 4: You want, you want a great show, you want and
Speaker 4: comedies in particular, you know, like I think about the episode,
Speaker 4: not it's the episode to day, but your episode when
Speaker 4: you when you go into the puddle and you see, uh,
Speaker 4: what was.
Speaker 1: A sea monster? Do you say? Sea monster? It was
Speaker 1: not a sea monster random named Julian.
Speaker 4: Julian.
Speaker 1: I love that you said sea monsters. What was the
Speaker 1: sea monster's name?
Speaker 4: So that's a perfect example of that script had so
Speaker 4: much in it. But that was the biggest joke in
Speaker 4: the show. And you know, we had to call the
Speaker 4: city and get Diggler and it was the first time
Speaker 4: I got to use a jackhammer, and we're like digging
Speaker 4: holes in the parking lot and creating a swimming pool
Speaker 4: that we're gonna have to fill in. But but the
Speaker 4: question was, you know, is this one of the funniest
Speaker 4: things in the script? What what what are we gonna
Speaker 4: give up or combined so that we can keep that
Speaker 4: and that trusting relationship, you know, with with with the actor,
Speaker 4: with the director, with the writers, you know, builds that
Speaker 4: thing that you're.
Speaker 1: Talking and Renald, you're the kind of person that was
Speaker 1: like so on board. You'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we have to figure it out.
Speaker 2: We have to figure out a way.
Speaker 1: I know because I think that I think that gag,
Speaker 1: which involved building two different small swimming pools to code
Speaker 1: because the city was not going to let anyone not
Speaker 1: do it to code, was one of the most expensive
Speaker 1: gags in Scrubs history.
Speaker 4: As I recall, Yes it was, Yes, it was very expensive.
Speaker 2: But that's you're right, Zach. That's a very important point.
Speaker 3: If you have a line producer who's game, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I can figure this out. If you work with me,
Speaker 3: we can figure this out. You're gonna get some of
Speaker 3: the best stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course I was so weirried about Randall
Speaker 1: was he wasn't you know some of these guys and
Speaker 1: gals are sitting in office and they're rolling your eyes
Speaker 1: when you walk in. Randon was out there with the
Speaker 1: jackhammer being like, I can't believe o' building.
Speaker 4: The tay totally true?
Speaker 1: All right, should we get into the episode. Let's get
Speaker 1: into the episode. So Randal, this one is supersized. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Very rare. Most episodes thus far in
Speaker 1: the show are been twenty two minutes without commercials. This
Speaker 1: one is twenty eight, which is a bit leap to supersize. Right.
Speaker 4: It was a big It was a big issue at
Speaker 4: the time the show with the pizza clock as we
Speaker 4: as we called it. But the network was very contemptus
Speaker 4: about this episode and they did not rerun it. Again
Speaker 4: in certainly not that season, and I don't think for
Speaker 4: years because being supersized and it's a it's a very
Speaker 4: thoughtful episode, you know, very emotional goes inside where where
Speaker 4: the characters are. And I think at the time, you know,
Speaker 4: we were still in season one and they wanted it
Speaker 4: to just to be you know, more JD falling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, they were like, what are you doing this
Speaker 1: weird documentary style interludes? I mean, where's JD running into
Speaker 1: a wall? And you know, but it's a great episode.
Speaker 1: I just want to say. Written by Gabrielle Allen and
Speaker 1: directed by Lawrence Trilling, who became one of our favorites
Speaker 1: early on. He then went on to do Pushing Daisies
Speaker 1: and Parenthood and I just googled now that he's on Goliath.
Speaker 1: But super talented guy.
Speaker 2: I think Lawrence Trilling and I did Felicity together.
Speaker 1: He did?
Speaker 4: You did?
Speaker 1: He did? Were we ever on Alias?
Speaker 4: Done? No?
Speaker 2: I was never on Alias?
Speaker 1: Okay, well he also did Alias, but yeah, he directed
Speaker 1: Young Donald Faison and Felicity.
Speaker 4: He's a really great guy, really fun, good director. And
Speaker 4: Gabby got I love her.
Speaker 1: Good team, great team, and I just thought there's a
Speaker 1: lot of style to this. So so there became this
Speaker 1: convention a few conventions. There's the pizza clock thing if
Speaker 1: you look down at the pizza guys, in case you
Speaker 1: didn't notice, the idea was that it was mimicking a clock.
Speaker 1: And so as the episode is cutting between that one
Speaker 1: night of Saturn and I in bed and then back
Speaker 1: to the few weeks that follow us trying to date,
Speaker 1: whenever it cuts back, the pizza's trying to look like
Speaker 1: a clock from that night. So there's that sort of gag,
Speaker 1: the timeline shake up, and then there's these documentary stop
Speaker 1: shaky cam, grainy film as though we're all being interviewed
Speaker 1: for a psychologist project on why people become doctors?
Speaker 3: Right, all right, okay, well that's not I thought that
Speaker 3: was the next episode, but okay.
Speaker 1: No, that's my bed banter. And beyond that's inter cutting
Speaker 1: Saren I and our big epic fuck fest for lack
Speaker 1: of a better term, I gotta.
Speaker 2: Tell you something, man, no miss that.
Speaker 3: Let's go back because are you said the word, and
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna now we can talk about it. I
Speaker 3: guess I missed those days. I missed the days when
Speaker 3: it was just sex all day. You know before kids,
Speaker 3: when you could just bone all day, then go out
Speaker 3: to dinner that night and then bone some more. My
Speaker 3: wife and I, you know what, we gotta make an
Speaker 3: appointment now and it.
Speaker 1: Sucks, isn't in your cow?
Speaker 2: Dude, I'll be like it.
Speaker 3: You think it's a joke, and a lot of stand
Speaker 3: up comics have made this joke, but it's real.
Speaker 2: You'll be like, how about sex Thursday? Can we do Thursday?
Speaker 1: I'm having my hair.
Speaker 3: Done right, No, no, no, no, no no. The kid's
Speaker 3: got zoom all day. I'm gonna be exhausted by eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: There's no way. And Ozark comes on. I gotta watch Ozark?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Jason Bateman, Jason Bateman is stealing your sex night.
Speaker 3: Jason Bateman is fucking it up for me right now.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I hear the shows that the good looking man.
Speaker 3: I hear the show's great, but damn you, Jason Bateman.
Speaker 3: I just wish he would get through the show already.
Speaker 3: I just missed those days. I missed the days where
Speaker 3: it was like and not.
Speaker 2: Granted.
Speaker 3: I love my children and I love having them in
Speaker 3: my life, but I just missed the days of freaking
Speaker 3: waking up boning, going to Hugo's.
Speaker 2: To get breakfast.
Speaker 3: Or brunch, right, brunch, whatever it is, coming back home
Speaker 3: and being like, well, what do you want to do?
Speaker 2: Well, we haven't fucked in like five hours, we might
Speaker 2: as well fuck again.
Speaker 4: Perfect Donald, I am sitting outside looking longingly at my
Speaker 4: blackout shutters, and how will you to use them? So
Speaker 4: much more?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Just like crank it down, black out the bedroom and.
Speaker 2: And do what you gotta do right them days is
Speaker 2: over them? Days?
Speaker 1: Is you guys are really doing a great ad for
Speaker 1: having children right now?
Speaker 2: No, you should do it. It's great, It's wonderful.
Speaker 1: As you both drink your white claw.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Elliott has said in previous episodes that she's never had
Speaker 1: an orgasm, and she said that she doesn't like sex.
Speaker 1: So is JD the first person to not only bring
Speaker 1: her to orgasm but show her the wondrous world of
Speaker 1: epic sex days?
Speaker 2: I'm sure you would like to think so, I think.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not JD. Donald, I'm Zach Braff, but I'm
Speaker 1: character of JD. Probably was good in bed.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, in the beginning of it all, JD
Speaker 3: was kind of a sucker when he's like he's almost
Speaker 3: let her walk out of the house, and she was
Speaker 3: obviously very much into jd.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, dude, I disagree. I was watching
Speaker 1: it with fresh eyes and I was thinking I couldn't
Speaker 1: read where she was. Was she like, hey, I should go?
Speaker 1: And then you know you know what that's like back
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 3: Do I hate that shit? I hate that shit? Why
Speaker 3: to test? Why I gotta be tested for? How come
Speaker 3: you can't just be like, you know what, maybe, uh,
Speaker 3: this was a mistake.
Speaker 2: Was it a mistake though? Or did you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I remember saying to my wife when she was
Speaker 3: my girlfriend, like, you know, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is if this is working out, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and her being.
Speaker 2: Like, you don't.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, this is the best thing that's ever
Speaker 3: happened to you. What do you mean you don't know
Speaker 3: if this is working out? Like that was real talk.
Speaker 3: The fact that Jad almost had her out the door
Speaker 3: before he was before she turned around and was like, yo,
Speaker 3: just say you want me to stay and stop being
Speaker 3: a sucker, stop being a a little punk about this.
Speaker 3: Just say you want me to stay, and I'll stay
Speaker 3: and we can go have sex again, and then he's
Speaker 3: finally like, will you stay? She's like, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 3: pay for that though, because I almost will.
Speaker 1: But don't you remember back in the day when you weren't,
Speaker 1: when you weren't in such a long term relationship, when
Speaker 1: something's new and you're kind of insecure about it, You're like,
Speaker 1: did this person have as good of fun as I did?
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one who put I
Speaker 1: don't want to put my one. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the one who puts myself out there and and
Speaker 1: and gets dissed. Like you're you're You're in a very
Speaker 1: vulnerable state. You're like, I kind of like this person,
Speaker 1: do they like me?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Well did I? Ja? Do you? The character just wasn't
Speaker 4: he in the friend zone a couple episodes before that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah they were. They were friend zoned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, uh, maybe seven episodes before he gets friend
Speaker 3: zoned and.
Speaker 1: Then he and then we gotta go to break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back with the legendary Randall Winster.
Speaker 2: Random where instand is. We're very excited.
Speaker 1: We're very excited Randall's here. We're talking about sex. JD
Speaker 1: and Elliott have an epic epic twenty four hours of sex,
Speaker 1: and it seems that JD has found a way to
Speaker 1: bring Elliott all the way to the Promised Land because
Speaker 1: she seems to be really enjoying sex.
Speaker 3: Well, the fact that they have it like six or
Speaker 3: seven times is ridiculous. And she even brings up, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna need a vagina transport.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, She's said you need a giant transplant,
Speaker 1: which is a very funny fantasy cutting to the guys.
Speaker 2: Running through Go Do Go Bucks box.
Speaker 4: It's a cooler. Randall was that they should have done
Speaker 4: the song vagainaa Bucks.
Speaker 1: Randall was vagina transplant something that anyone was worried about
Speaker 1: getting through the sensors, because it seems pretty pretty risque
Speaker 1: to have a vagina in a box.
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember there being like some conversation about I
Speaker 4: can't remember whether it was whether it was a Chris
Speaker 4: But the great thing about Scrubs was that there was
Speaker 4: always something else to point at, like, you know, another
Speaker 4: red herring. I was like, well, they have a vaian
Speaker 4: in the box, but he says, dick three times two
Speaker 4: pages later, we'll get rid of that and let us
Speaker 4: keep a giant.
Speaker 1: So part of Randall's job was was being Bill's liaison
Speaker 1: to the studio. I mean, like, listen, guys, it's just
Speaker 1: one vagina in a box. We're not gonna have vaginas
Speaker 1: in boxes every week.
Speaker 4: And and the and the great thing about about the
Speaker 4: h the working with the person. There was a woman
Speaker 4: I can't remember if this was Sandy Christmas, it was
Speaker 4: this Sandy Christmas. It was this very sweet woman who
Speaker 4: used to have these conversations with So I'd get on
Speaker 4: the phone and she'd be like, now, Randall, I back
Speaker 4: to vagina in the bull and you know, and then
Speaker 4: you later say, penis you know, do we have to
Speaker 4: have all of that in the show? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what's funny is they'll often give you they'll often
Speaker 1: give you a sheet of all their objections and it's
Speaker 1: a negotiation, and then even when you get it through,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Okay, we're fine with the vagina in
Speaker 1: the box, please do not show a vagina in a box.
Speaker 1: Like even shit, You're like, really, guys, you had to
Speaker 1: write that on the paper, like you think we were
Speaker 1: gonna cut to a vagina on for NBC in the box.
Speaker 4: And sometimes they say sometimes they say stuff and you're thinking,
Speaker 4: oh damn, you're weight dirtier than I thought. That is
Speaker 4: not what we meant. This is a true story. We
Speaker 4: had to go into the effects visual effects and adjust
Speaker 4: Donald scrubs in a particular scene because they thought we're
Speaker 4: seeing too much of a bob.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is how we do, Dan, how about thunder
Speaker 1: and we do. Let's have some thunders to plaster as
Speaker 1: applause from my junk and then Dan, if you wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind put them?
Speaker 4: That was I used to do a Loma at the
Speaker 4: t and most of my yes inspired me to just
Speaker 4: go mm hm.
Speaker 1: Whenever Nurse Roberts couldn't be at the table, read Randa
Speaker 1: would would play her and his favorite part was doing her.
Speaker 3: M speaking of speaking of Aloma, Holy cow, she's amazing
Speaker 3: in this episode, very funny.
Speaker 2: Every one of her lines lands hard.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: White boys? Uh you mean it was a secret.
Speaker 3: All of that stuff, everything that everything that she said
Speaker 3: in this episode, I laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: Now let's get rid of into it right away, you know.
Speaker 1: Let's you know, the janitor sees Aloma and she sees him,
Speaker 1: and she looks at him like, get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of my way, and Randall. Bill is still hanging onto
Speaker 1: his his his dream that the Janitor was only seen
Speaker 1: by JD in season one, and we are Donald and
Speaker 1: I are detectives that are quickly proving him wrong in
Speaker 1: every other episode.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I was. I never bought into that, that
Speaker 4: that he was a figment of JD's imagination. It's mister snuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, and I remember he had because there's some
Speaker 4: episodes later. I remember an episode I directed where he
Speaker 4: has a group of benchmen played by our Grip team,
Speaker 4: you know, and they are all in it.
Speaker 3: With him, and isn't his his side He has two sidekicks,
Speaker 3: Troy and Randall.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Randall.
Speaker 3: I remember Randall played by Martin, played by Martin.
Speaker 1: Martin, who was also in Oz the Great and Powerful
Speaker 1: with me, and he was also in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Colleco Vision, which comes up at seven
Speaker 1: twenty one. Did you have Collecovision either one of you?
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 3: My friend had Calleco Vision, and I remember colleco Vision
Speaker 3: being so awesome because the video games looked exactly like
Speaker 3: they look in the arcade. So if you had Donkey
Speaker 3: Kong it looked like Donkey Kong from the Arcade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was you had first.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that game?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember the Smurf Well, if.
Speaker 1: You were interested in video games, please go. I'm sure
Speaker 1: on YouTube they can play you the theme music from
Speaker 1: Smurfs on Cleacovision. And that jam was fire?
Speaker 2: Was it? La la la la la la la la
Speaker 2: la la.
Speaker 1: Come on?
Speaker 9: That was the dope ship La la la la la
Speaker 9: la la la la.
Speaker 1: La la Ahead.
Speaker 4: Let me.
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way. If jay Z can make
Speaker 3: a song from Hard Knock Life.
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, do that again and I'll kick in my
Speaker 1: beat box and we got a jam halfway there.
Speaker 9: Hey, la la la la la la la la la
Speaker 9: la la la la la la la la la la
Speaker 9: la la.
Speaker 1: Dam And you're gonna have to line that up with
Speaker 1: some delay, but we I think it's fire, and I
Speaker 1: think we can beat a Hard Knocked Life.
Speaker 4: You you did me that donald On set you to
Speaker 4: do Transformers as a dude.
Speaker 3: Late Neil Diamond, Neil Diamond singing Transformers. I thought I
Speaker 3: did it already, But if I haven't, if you missed
Speaker 3: it to Transformers more.
Speaker 2: Than meets the eye.
Speaker 10: Keep going, keep going, bud face their battles to destroy
Speaker 10: the evil forces of the Decepticons.
Speaker 1: By meay Neil Diamond's your best impersonation. You also do
Speaker 1: a pretty good uh, I don't know how much.
Speaker 3: My Well, you do a better version of Aaron Neville
Speaker 3: than I do. Mine's trash that maybe, yeahs is way
Speaker 3: better than mine, way better than mine.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's the extent of our impressions. Gleco Vision great game system.
Speaker 1: I felt like a baller because I had it, and
Speaker 1: uh uh you know, I remember the control was like
Speaker 1: it was like a long rectangle and then there was a.
Speaker 2: Circle on the bottom. Yeah, not to be confused.
Speaker 1: With in television, which I didn't have.
Speaker 2: Or in television. Wow was it in television? It was Kalico.
Speaker 1: Vision started with the Atari twenty six hundred. I remember
Speaker 1: that everybody had that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there was Vision.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Randall, I feel like the guy with the
Speaker 1: gaming heads that you weigh in.
Speaker 4: But this makes me said one hundred years old. I
Speaker 4: am currently doing a puzzle during COVID that is all
Speaker 4: of the original video games Atari and like, yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1: I need that puzzle. We we got a Van Gos
Speaker 1: Starry Night, and we're not even getting anywhere near to
Speaker 1: starting it. But I feel like if it was the
Speaker 1: old game consoles, we've had it done already.
Speaker 4: I'm sending it to you.
Speaker 2: There's an Alf mentioned in this show.
Speaker 1: Alf.
Speaker 2: I was a huge fan of Alf when I.
Speaker 1: Too, Max, Right, what do you doing out?
Speaker 3: The puppet from out of space who loved to eat cats?
Speaker 1: I remember being a little kid and the trailer teaser
Speaker 1: for ALF came on and I remember being a little kid,
Speaker 1: my first film critic going that looks so stupid. Cut
Speaker 1: to me loving Alf, like having alf stuffed animals?
Speaker 4: What was not to love about ALF? I visited the
Speaker 4: ALF set, you did, I remember? Yes?
Speaker 1: That was it raised up so they could have a puppeteer.
Speaker 4: Yes, And it was like it was. It wasn't at
Speaker 4: a real stage. It was at uh an, a warehouse
Speaker 4: in Culver City.
Speaker 1: Is I pall? Max Wright, who was who played the father,
Speaker 1: who was an accomplished theater actor and Shakespearean actor and
Speaker 1: genius actor all around fucking hated it. I think that's
Speaker 1: part of the lore, is that he absolutely hated doing
Speaker 1: a puppet show.
Speaker 4: Now, did you did you watch all the Alps were
Speaker 4: religious ALF because there's.
Speaker 1: Episodes, I Mitch, I mean, I'm not ready to do
Speaker 1: the rewatch podcast.
Speaker 4: But there's a there's a very special ALF where I
Speaker 4: remember mostly is crying during alf. ALF wred to visit
Speaker 4: the girl in the hospital. It was like, you know,
Speaker 4: tonight on a very special ALF.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they would do you remember when
Speaker 1: they would like back in the day, for those of
Speaker 1: you who are too young, they when there was a
Speaker 1: sad like on Scrubs. We had sad episodes all the time,
Speaker 1: but on the old school sitcoms, they would always warn you,
Speaker 1: like tonight on a very special silver Spoons, the ricker
Speaker 1: will the ricker will kill a deer, we recommend and
Speaker 1: they would go, we recommend parents watch with their children.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that for sure?
Speaker 4: But on Scrubs, if it was sad, we just would
Speaker 4: play the theme song a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was silver spoons when the wrecker killed
Speaker 1: a deer, there was different strokes. When Dudley got molested
Speaker 1: by the bike shop owner, remember that.
Speaker 2: I do remember that, and everything happened to Dudley or Arnold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I don't know what happened on ALF,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they made the announcement. It
Speaker 1: must have been serious.
Speaker 3: Tony special episode of Alf Alf learns to touch himself.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, but you can't handle it.
Speaker 1: I used to have an alf stuffed animal and uh, well,
Speaker 1: never mind that. Man, it sounds like I fucked the doll.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I just I just it did sound like you were
Speaker 3: about to say it sounded like you were about to say, yeah.
Speaker 2: I fucked the doll.
Speaker 1: Did Alf have a tail?
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, no, no, he did not.
Speaker 4: I don't think so well.
Speaker 1: Can you please look up with Alf had a tail?
Speaker 2: Alf did not have a tail.
Speaker 1: You're feeling really confident about that. You didn't see pretty
Speaker 1: sure you didn't see Alf's ask that much.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about how well Johnny does in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the monologue, in the monologue section, everybody's great.
Speaker 1: In the Oh, Joelle, what you look? Your face lit up?
Speaker 2: Alf does have a tail?
Speaker 1: Donald, You fucking liar.
Speaker 2: I just don't remember after the long term.
Speaker 1: No, it's like a dog's tail.
Speaker 4: And it only because you can see him like he's
Speaker 4: looking out the window in a single shot.
Speaker 3: Listen, but I want to see if the album barely
Speaker 3: remember episodes of Scrubs.
Speaker 2: How am I supposed to remember Alf?
Speaker 1: He does have a tail, so I am a memory.
Speaker 1: I think what I was trying to say with the
Speaker 1: stuff animals, I used to pull Alf's tail through his
Speaker 1: legs to make it look like it was Alb's peenis.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so is good in this episode? Yes,
Speaker 1: not only that.
Speaker 2: Before we do that, let's go back a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh, I didn't know that Kelso's actual name was Kelso
Speaker 3: Kelso Kelsanovitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't think that comes up again. But
Speaker 1: this is the first episode where he introduces his wife's name, Enid.
Speaker 3: Right, and I thought that was just very interesting that,
Speaker 3: you know, he changed his name to fit in to
Speaker 3: be to sound more American, so instead of kel Sonovich,
Speaker 3: it then became Kelso.
Speaker 1: I think everybody did, including uh, Donald Faison and Judy
Speaker 1: and Sarah. Everybody was great in these monologue sections. They were,
Speaker 1: oh god, it was kind of a cool. It's funny
Speaker 1: because that documentary style became very common in shows like
Speaker 1: the Office and A Modern Family that were doing sort
Speaker 1: of the shaky cam documentary style was not a style
Speaker 1: we did on Scrubs. But because of this segment, I
Speaker 1: don't know why the interviewer was so herky jerky with
Speaker 1: the damn camera. I mean, put the fucking thing on
Speaker 1: a tripod and calm down. But it was the interviewer
Speaker 1: was making like his own shaky cam TV show. But
Speaker 1: I thought everyone it seemed like the mandate was that
Speaker 1: they were not going to have cuts in them. They
Speaker 1: would all be long takes. And yeah, and I thought
Speaker 1: everyone did a really nice job in those scenes.
Speaker 2: Do you call it?
Speaker 3: They prepared us for that, because the fact that I
Speaker 3: knew my lines like that was very weird yourself. I'm
Speaker 3: watching it, I'm like, they're gonna cut soon, because there's
Speaker 3: no way I remember all of this.
Speaker 4: We talked about it a lot, and we knew it
Speaker 4: was gonna be one take. If I remember correctly, those
Speaker 4: are half the monologues that we did. I mean, part
Speaker 4: of the reason why the episode is so long is
Speaker 4: because those chunks. And I remember Johnny C I feel
Speaker 4: like he was disappointed because there was another long take.
Speaker 4: You know. So even though this episode is what do
Speaker 4: we Say? Twenty four eight, twenty eight, twenty eight, I
Speaker 4: think the editor's cut was closer to forty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's a really cool section later on where
Speaker 1: Donald and Judy are side by side and they're still
Speaker 1: not cutting, so they were able to time out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, was Judy in the room reading with you? Donald,
Speaker 1: do you remember?
Speaker 4: No? That was it.
Speaker 2: They gave us earwigs, I think for that.
Speaker 1: Because earwig, if for those who don't know, is a
Speaker 1: tiny ear piece that goes in your ear that you
Speaker 1: can't see, the camera can't see.
Speaker 3: I remember rehearsing it with the voice track.
Speaker 2: I think they recorded Judy first.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, though, I think they recorded Judy
Speaker 3: first and then I went in after her to record.
Speaker 1: Well, the timing of that was perfect because you you know,
Speaker 1: you had to stall, so you were like thinking and
Speaker 1: then you took a sip of your water and like
Speaker 1: it totally looked natural, but it was. It was well
Speaker 1: done by by Larry trilling trilling Man.
Speaker 3: That was one of the That was one of the
Speaker 3: highlights in my notes that I wrote. You know, this
Speaker 3: was his first episode to direct for us, and we
Speaker 3: gave him a pretty you know, you guys gave him
Speaker 3: a big randall and you and Bill gave.
Speaker 2: Him a pretty big episode to produce.
Speaker 3: I wondered if it was ever, like, Yo, what money
Speaker 3: do I get to make this go easier for me?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I'm guessing he was told that it was going
Speaker 1: to be a long one because right Randall or it
Speaker 1: was decided after the fact.
Speaker 4: It was decided after the fact. We didn't know it
Speaker 4: was going to come out, but we knew from timing
Speaker 4: the table read that we were up against it and
Speaker 4: that we didn't want to make cuts in those you know,
Speaker 4: soliloquy pieces, you know, directly to the camera. For some reason,
Speaker 4: I feel like production wise, there was just a lot
Speaker 4: of talk about the pizza clock, like getting the right
Speaker 4: angle and how much beizza did it take out? And
Speaker 4: you know, we were we were in that bedroom for
Speaker 4: so long, which was a tight set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sarah and I, you know, we were friends
Speaker 1: and we really loved each other. But that was a
Speaker 1: very bizarre thing to have that much fake sex all
Speaker 1: over one set for many days on end.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, not just that you guys were very much
Speaker 3: in each other's face. I was going to ask you,
Speaker 3: you guys made out a lot in this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how awkward was that for you?
Speaker 1: I think it was you know, you always hear actors
Speaker 1: talking about, oh it's you know, it's all very you know, choreographed,
Speaker 1: and it's not weird at all.
Speaker 4: It is weird.
Speaker 1: You know, there's everyone standing around, you're making out with
Speaker 1: your good friend. Uh, it's you know, it was. It
Speaker 1: was bizarre. I remember being because also a lot of
Speaker 1: most times like okay, there's a quick makeout scene. It's
Speaker 1: a TV show, you know, that's that's all it ever is.
Speaker 1: This was like, you know, wrestling around and groping each
Speaker 1: other and for days, So it was.
Speaker 2: Weird face to face and not only face to.
Speaker 1: Fanaka Donald, you gotta have Banaka. We had a boom
Speaker 1: man named Kevin. What was his last name? Ryandal do
Speaker 1: you remember?
Speaker 4: I can't figure it right now.
Speaker 1: Also hires the whole crew everybody, so he should really
Speaker 1: know Kevin's last name. But Kevin used to see that
Speaker 1: we all used to have banaka. This is like back
Speaker 1: in the day still that we had like spray the
Speaker 1: aerosol banokam and uh. We made a joke like, oh,
Speaker 1: it'd be great because the boom MIC's right over your head.
Speaker 1: We were like, it'd be great if there was a
Speaker 1: boom if there was banaka on the boom, because then
Speaker 1: we can just reach up, pull the boom mic down
Speaker 1: and grab it off. Next day we show up and
Speaker 1: he had velcrowe a banaka to the end of the
Speaker 1: boom mic not not the mic itself, the stick and
Speaker 1: poll and Kevin santy, thank you and uh and and
Speaker 1: literally he wasn't just a joke. He kept it up
Speaker 1: there for like months. And whenever you need a banaka,
Speaker 1: you just reach up, grab the boom pole, pull it
Speaker 1: off to a spray. They'll crawl back and stick it up.
Speaker 3: I used to go crazy with the banaka because I
Speaker 3: felt like, maybe if I spray enough in my mouth
Speaker 3: the aarosol and the freaking mint will get me high enough.
Speaker 1: When your weed was wearing off. So Donald, this weed
Speaker 1: had worn off and he was on set too long.
Speaker 1: He's like, let me try and get high on baca.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember one day Randall came into the room.
Speaker 3: Randal, tell me if you remember this, and you were
Speaker 3: like Donald and we were on set.
Speaker 2: You were like, Donald, wake up.
Speaker 3: Do I need to splash cold water in your face
Speaker 3: and something breake you ass up?
Speaker 2: Where you high or something?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, No, But in my
Speaker 3: mind I was like, they know, they know.
Speaker 1: It's probably because you were taking too long to get
Speaker 1: to set.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: The only time I took a long time to get
Speaker 3: to set was when Grand Theft Auto Vice City came out.
Speaker 3: And I remember one time they were trying to get
Speaker 3: me the set and I was my way out the
Speaker 3: door and Randall's pushing my door in as I'm pulling
Speaker 3: it and I was like hi, and he was like,
Speaker 3: get upstairs, random.
Speaker 1: You had to be bad cop.
Speaker 4: I had to get the grip. Yeah, grab people, steer them.
Speaker 4: I remember sending a PA to your house one time, Zach.
Speaker 4: Somebody had to climb over the fence to get you
Speaker 4: to like, wait, it.
Speaker 1: Was a really bad moment. No, what happened was the power.
Speaker 1: What had happened was the power went out. The power
Speaker 1: went out in my in my on my street or
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, and so the alarms didn't go off and
Speaker 1: and also the phones didn't work, and so I woke
Speaker 1: up to a PA knocking on my window, and which
Speaker 1: is the worst sight if you're an actor. It's like
Speaker 1: the most horrible feeling. And I remember getting to set
Speaker 1: really late, and Bill looked at me, and he's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't worry, we'll split the fifty grand.
Speaker 4: I think during scrubs I had a real moment of
Speaker 4: peace about producing, which was I gave up on the
Speaker 4: idea of everything being okay for more than five minutes
Speaker 4: at a time, because nothing's ever always okay. It's like no,
Speaker 4: and and nobody comes to my door to be like
Speaker 4: everything's great. It's like, you know, somebody took my candy.
Speaker 4: We don't have any film. You know, somebody's late.
Speaker 3: Did we ever run out of film?
Speaker 4: We came, We came close. We used to a lot
Speaker 4: of short ends one particular week because part of the
Speaker 4: reason that we were able to fly under the radar financially,
Speaker 4: and one of the reasons that that show is one
Speaker 4: of the last shows to be on film is because
Speaker 4: we shot on sixteen. We shot Super sixteen, not thirty five,
Speaker 4: So we cut our production costs, you know, by a lot.
Speaker 4: But we made a great print. I mean we we
Speaker 4: showed that show on a DJA in the GGA screening
Speaker 4: room and held up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, those of you who don't know, this was
Speaker 1: one of the last shows still being shot on film,
Speaker 1: especially sixteen millimeter film. Probably at the time. Probably nothing
Speaker 1: is right now, I would guess unless it's like a
Speaker 1: big budget feature on Netflix or something. But most people
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore anyway, And it's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why people always ask how come there's no blu
Speaker 1: ray and high resolution sixteen by nine version of the show.
Speaker 1: It's because when we made it, we didn't and we
Speaker 1: were done with it. No one anticipated all this streaming stuff,
Speaker 1: so it was never like upres to be four K video.
Speaker 4: Right, they didn't cut the film and then we do it,
Speaker 4: and some of the film that we used you can't
Speaker 4: even get anymore. A lot of the flashback scenes I think,
Speaker 4: I think you'll see it in season one are shot
Speaker 4: on something that was called reversal film, which was like
Speaker 4: from the Vietnam War. It could had this look of yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why they have a specific texture, though in fact
Speaker 1: there's different clearly a different film stock being shot for
Speaker 1: these interview sequences, because they're very grainy and have a
Speaker 1: different color sort of palette than the show itself.
Speaker 3: When did we switch When did we switch over to chip?
Speaker 3: Then when did we switch over to digital?
Speaker 1: Because I know, did you do it in season nine?
Speaker 1: It would only be in season nine.
Speaker 2: I think it was before season nine, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean because because it was
Speaker 4: talked about so much shows, because NBC had made this
Speaker 4: mandate that everybody was going digital. But then when they
Speaker 4: looked at our numbers, they were like, hey, keep doing
Speaker 4: what you're doing. Like I think, I think maybe in
Speaker 4: that season nine we went digital, Like I honestly can't
Speaker 4: remember us the top of my head.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 3: I remember that that was very interesting when you would
Speaker 3: see them changing mags or somebody getting the film ready
Speaker 3: for the day and having to put the film in
Speaker 3: a mag so that it could fit on the camera
Speaker 3: and reaching into this like bag.
Speaker 2: It looked like a bag, is what it looked like.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a picture like a miniature camping tent
Speaker 1: that like that would fit on a desktop, and it
Speaker 1: was blacked out so that they could put their hands
Speaker 1: in there and not expose the film while loading them
Speaker 1: camera magazines.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I used to I used to be like, I remember
Speaker 3: when we switched over to I guess it was season
Speaker 3: nine where we switched over to CHIP and I remember
Speaker 3: being like, this is the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: Why didn't we do this before, like we could do
Speaker 3: takes for days and days and days. All I remember
Speaker 3: all my fuck ups, every time I missed a line
Speaker 3: or forgot a line and everything like that. I remember
Speaker 3: being like, how much how much more room do we
Speaker 3: have on the mag before? Before you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: before we're out and we have to and we have
Speaker 3: to change the mag again.
Speaker 1: You'd have eleven you'd have about eleven minutes on a
Speaker 1: sixty millimeter magazine and uh and and you'd be like
Speaker 1: trying to trying to get it, be like, how much
Speaker 1: how much more fun we got before you rolled out?
Speaker 1: I got it? I got I got it. Let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go go, you can go forever.
Speaker 2: Now you'd be like, don't cut, don't cut. We gotta cut,
Speaker 2: we gotta cut.
Speaker 3: We only got like nineteen feet, all right, fine cut.
Speaker 1: When I say to Sarah, we're gonna need a stool sample,
Speaker 1: not for medical reasons, my robot needs food. I made that,
Speaker 1: I'm proud to say, and Sarah cracked up at it.
Speaker 1: And it's so random and weird, but I love it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta feed my robot yo pooh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's pooh patient pooh patient poof for the rover.
Speaker 4: It all comes down to pooh.
Speaker 1: Everything comes And I laughed out loud when Sarah is
Speaker 1: seventeen oh four. Sarah is making fun of my laugh
Speaker 1: because she's like already over me, and she's.
Speaker 4: Like, oh my god, that is so funny. That does
Speaker 4: a funny impression of you, because I mean that laugh
Speaker 4: has got a lot of genuine laughs with the silly
Speaker 4: JD laugh all through the season. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's how every I think that's how
Speaker 3: every relationship should be.
Speaker 2: What you see is what you get, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, unfortunately what you see and what you get sometimes
Speaker 3: you think you want it, and then eventually it makes
Speaker 3: you want to kill the person what it turns out to,
Speaker 3: which turns out to be with Elliott and JD. She
Speaker 3: loved the laugh in the beginning. Oh I love it
Speaker 3: so cute, and then at the end of the show
Speaker 3: she's like, fuck that laugh, dude, laugh like that again
Speaker 3: one more time, I dare you.
Speaker 1: It's like, say what again?
Speaker 2: Say again, motherfucker, say what one more time?
Speaker 1: I know I hear you. Isn't that so sad?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: When a relationship goes sour and all the things you
Speaker 1: thought were so adorable you now just fucking hate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my life back in the day. Oh,
Speaker 3: he's got such potential.
Speaker 1: We have some guests here, Randall. So we have a
Speaker 1: guest that come on the show. Randal, I know that
Speaker 1: you don't listen to the podcast.
Speaker 2: So Randall listens to the podcast.
Speaker 1: He does, I don't. Yeah, he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3: Because somebody was like, yo, they talked about you on
Speaker 3: the podcast the other Yeah.
Speaker 1: That means that means that Randall was told by someone
Speaker 1: and he went and listened to one.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, they got a podcast. Check out.
Speaker 5: Somebody's on the.
Speaker 4: Podcast his real friends. I was like, oh nice.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I got shut out.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna go to a break and when
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll have our guests.
Speaker 1: So Randall, when we do the commercial breaks and the
Speaker 1: song comes back, it doesn't have them. A lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of our fans like to add their own.
Speaker 1: That's part of Barbara Robbie. Barbara and Robbie are twins.
Speaker 2: One of your is a doctor.
Speaker 1: My god, things are getting weird, you guys. Two different
Speaker 1: women have entered and they appear to be identical twins
Speaker 1: in different parts of the world where you guys call
Speaker 1: it from.
Speaker 11: I'm calling from UK, in the.
Speaker 2: UK, and you're so you guys, are you a doctor?
Speaker 11: Yes I am, Yes, I am, but I'm not working yet.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 11: I had some problems for coronavirus which delayed some technical issues.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: And then Robbie, what about you? Are you a doctor too? No?
Speaker 12: No, I got doited in law last February.
Speaker 2: So you've got a lawyer and a doctor. Your parents
Speaker 2: will be very happy, very proud.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And last time we saw each other was at the
Speaker 12: beginning of March when I brought Bobby to the airport
Speaker 12: to take her flight to go to the UK and
Speaker 12: move there.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you've been apart for a long time. I
Speaker 1: just miss each.
Speaker 11: Other, Yes, a lot. That's why I also asked you
Speaker 11: to do this meeting in because I knew that it
Speaker 11: was very important to her. It is important also for me.
Speaker 11: But she had a very rough time, so oh well, we're.
Speaker 1: Here to cheer her up. I'm so glad that you
Speaker 1: called in because not only do you have the legendary
Speaker 1: Donald Faison here and he's always funny, you have Randall Winston,
Speaker 1: who was our line producer, but you may know him
Speaker 1: as Leonard the security guard. And also he played Death
Speaker 1: and you know, we've gotten a lot of questions for
Speaker 1: Death on our Instagram pages. So finally you can ask
Speaker 1: deaf any question you have.
Speaker 11: Oh, that's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Than played much mouth from the Yeah you did play
Speaker 3: much mouth from Freaking the Fat Out Jump.
Speaker 1: Yes, different, you had three different parts.
Speaker 2: You had that big ass helmet on your head too.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's.
Speaker 1: Get ahead, ladies, ask a question.
Speaker 12: I would like to start it because I am in
Speaker 12: a theater company as well, so sometimes we argue about
Speaker 12: the best ways to perform. You know, when you have
Speaker 12: to feel in character and you have to feel what
Speaker 12: your character is feeling in order to act. So I
Speaker 12: was wondering whether sometimes you had some difficulties with that
Speaker 12: and to make a very strange scene you couldn't really
Speaker 12: feel what JD or Turk or.
Speaker 4: Or Leonards.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bobby, thank you for including him.
Speaker 12: My pleasure, So if you had to find some strange
Speaker 12: way to perform. I thought about this question when I
Speaker 12: was listening to your podcast last week, and Donald said
Speaker 12: when he had to memorize the line you need the
Speaker 12: surgical counsole, so you had to make a song about it.
Speaker 12: So if if my question is not about memorizing things,
Speaker 12: it's more about like acting the feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, you know, let Leonard go first.
Speaker 1: When I strapped on the arm.
Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing. You you work hard.
Speaker 3: You work so hard to try to feel everything, and
Speaker 3: that's what comes with being an actor. You're gonna work
Speaker 3: hard hard and you've ever worked in your life to
Speaker 3: try to feel it. But when the camera rolls and
Speaker 3: you don't feel it, you better act the shit out
Speaker 3: of it, you know what I mean, Because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it still has to be made.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna work your hard is to try and
Speaker 3: feel the emotion and find the emotion and pinpoint what
Speaker 3: it is that you're you know, you'll make notes and
Speaker 3: you'll do all of that stuff. But there comes a
Speaker 3: time when you're doing it where all of that preparation
Speaker 3: and stuff isn't helping, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 3: so when it's not helping, it's time for you to
Speaker 3: act the shit out of it.
Speaker 2: And that's just how it goes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I would say there's times when it's really just natural
Speaker 1: and then there's times where it feels forced and you
Speaker 1: don't feel present. You can see the cameraman and you
Speaker 1: can see the crew, and your stomach's growling because you're hungry,
Speaker 1: and you know, you had an argument with someone in
Speaker 1: your family, and all these things that happen in any job,
Speaker 1: and you and you're in your head and you're distracted,
Speaker 1: and the trick with acting is to always be as
Speaker 1: present as possible. The good news about acting on film
Speaker 1: and tell vision is you really only need to do
Speaker 1: it in spurts because you're you're you're trying to shine
Speaker 1: for your other actor, but also when the camera's on you,
Speaker 1: when it's on when you're no matter what the shot is.
Speaker 1: When you're doing a play, you have to maintain that
Speaker 1: for for two hours and and scene real. But with
Speaker 1: with film and TV acting, the real challenge is to
Speaker 1: get it in spurts enough so that it will cut
Speaker 1: together and be believable. But but yeah, it can be
Speaker 1: really it can be really challenging, especially when you're there's
Speaker 1: so much distraction. You know, there's phones ringing, and there's
Speaker 1: a helicopter overhead, and and you're upset about something in
Speaker 1: your private life. You know, it's it's it's a real
Speaker 1: challenge to do everything you can to be present in
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 2: And when you can't be present, that's what that's what
Speaker 2: acting is.
Speaker 1: Then you fake it till you make it, fake it
Speaker 1: till you make it. Now, Randall, when you were playing Leonard,
Speaker 1: did you did? You didn't? Didn't Leonard have a love interest?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh, yes, I had to miss it
Speaker 1: was a scene.
Speaker 4: Yes she was.
Speaker 1: Uh And wasn't she a fellow security guarden?
Speaker 4: No, no, she was. Maybe she was a candy striper
Speaker 4: or something. I just.
Speaker 1: Oh, Robbie, no, she was an old Yes, that was
Speaker 1: I had to open mouth kissing her.
Speaker 4: That was specifically requested.
Speaker 1: By her? Was it in the script um?
Speaker 4: That parts a little foggy, But you know, I think.
Speaker 1: Robbie's question, how did you maintain being president in the
Speaker 1: moment when you were kissing the senior citizen?
Speaker 4: You know what, Robbie, I should have been listening, and
Speaker 4: I've been listening to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were listening to her mouth. Okay, ladies, good question, Yes,
Speaker 1: go ahead with another one. Donald left he was so
Speaker 1: offended by that question he left.
Speaker 11: Okay, So my question is we watched Scrubs a lot
Speaker 11: of time, and the first time we watched it we
Speaker 11: were just teenagers, and so we watched it in Italian.
Speaker 11: So I wondered, have you ever listened to yourself dubbed
Speaker 11: in other languages such as Alan or Spanish or Japanese. Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate how they dubbed me in Spanish and
Speaker 3: Italian and stuff like that. I never have a deep voice.
Speaker 7: I'm always like, yeah, I prefer your voice.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny is that in most countries, when you become
Speaker 1: a known actor, they pick the same actor to always
Speaker 1: do you. So if Donald's in one, if he's in
Speaker 1: Scrubs and then he goes off to do another film
Speaker 1: that is not even to do with Scrubs, it's usually
Speaker 1: the same actor being Donald.
Speaker 2: And I hate that.
Speaker 3: I hate that that one person is like, oh, oh no,
Speaker 3: was he playing in this?
Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry about it. I did him on Scrubs.
Speaker 1: I got this, So to Donald's to Donald's dismay, that
Speaker 1: voice will always be his voice.
Speaker 2: That pisses me off, man, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have. I've heard myself in almost so many voices.
Speaker 1: Traveling around, especially when the show was on NonStop, we
Speaker 1: travel around the World and you turn on the TV
Speaker 1: and there you were speaking German. It was very funny.
Speaker 1: I remember, Uh, then there was a thing where we
Speaker 1: had Germans in the show Herman the German right with
Speaker 1: the with the balloon things, none of that. And then
Speaker 1: I remember in Germany they had to change where they
Speaker 1: were from because it made no sense that their language
Speaker 1: was different, like you know, so you know, like think
Speaker 1: about it. If the show has a character that's speaking
Speaker 1: of the language, and all of a sudden, the show's
Speaker 1: dubbed into that language, they then have to switch that
Speaker 1: person's language, so it doesn't what makes sense.
Speaker 4: I think we made them Belgium.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think you're right. N Randall, How do you
Speaker 1: feel as being dubbed as Death and Leonard.
Speaker 4: As long as my fan base all? Did you ever hear?
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard yourself dubbed in other languages?
Speaker 4: Randall? I have not.
Speaker 1: The good thing about dubbing Death is that you don't
Speaker 1: see his mouth moves, so it doesn't look bad exactly.
Speaker 1: I prefer subtitles, but they don't. They don't do that.
Speaker 1: A lot of countries just dub it.
Speaker 2: I don't prefer subtitles. I do not like subtitles.
Speaker 1: You know you'd rather be dubbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a I'm a very poor reader. So having
Speaker 2: to read subtitles.
Speaker 1: Does your poor screen? Does your dyslexia. I've never asked
Speaker 1: you this before, but does that make you less likely
Speaker 1: to watch subtitled films?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, you know, a good movie is a good movie,
Speaker 3: no matter what, even with a learning disability, even if
Speaker 3: it is written on the screen. My dyslexia isn't so
Speaker 3: bad that I can't keep up right.
Speaker 1: I just never asked you. I wondered if you if
Speaker 1: you said, ah, fuck, it's be paying the asser for
Speaker 1: me to read these subtitles.
Speaker 3: Or no, I would though I would prefer not to read.
Speaker 3: I'd prefer to listen to a dubbed mix.
Speaker 1: Right, got it?
Speaker 2: Do you guys have another question?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: You're giving them three? It must because they're separated sisters.
Speaker 3: They're separated sisters. This is the first time they've talked
Speaker 3: to each other since March.
Speaker 1: Right, they're using us. They don't care about scrubs. They
Speaker 1: just want to, you know, get on our zoom and
Speaker 1: talk to each other.
Speaker 3: Like I did a show back in a day called
Speaker 3: Free to Be a Family, and we did a space
Speaker 3: bridge to Russia and this is like our space bridge
Speaker 3: between the UK and Italy.
Speaker 1: Was that like free to be? Was that like free
Speaker 1: to be you and me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was free to be you and me.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to see free to be you and
Speaker 1: me songs Monday.
Speaker 3: We're free to be I could say in a Russian
Speaker 3: glee wee wheat e e t t e glee we
Speaker 3: wheat nois sennoi.
Speaker 2: Right, wow, We're free to be you and me, You
Speaker 2: and me, We're free to be a family.
Speaker 1: I only know a little Russian from the Billy Joel
Speaker 1: Coleopt album when he played and he said Milly Joe
Speaker 1: and the crowd went crazy.
Speaker 3: I know that because I got to wrap We're free
Speaker 3: to be You and me with the Fat Boys. There
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't remember the Fat Boys, but
Speaker 3: one of them was an amazing beat boxer and he
Speaker 3: beat boxed while I rapped.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So if you guys have enough, did you.
Speaker 4: Ever answer any any any calls on the scrubs phone
Speaker 4: that were from out of the country.
Speaker 2: No, I never answered any.
Speaker 1: When we did this episode with Call Turk and we
Speaker 1: had cal Turk, we had to get a real phone line,
Speaker 1: and Bill thought it would be I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was you or Bill Randall, but said, you know,
Speaker 1: rather than do a five five five number, let's get
Speaker 1: a real number and have it all ring on a
Speaker 1: cell phone. And so the cell phone was in the
Speaker 1: Scrubs production office and it would just ring all the time,
Speaker 1: and when you were randomly just walking through and you
Speaker 1: had a minute to kill, you just answer it and
Speaker 1: talk to fans because it would just ring NonStop.
Speaker 4: Done stop for like five years. And we kept the
Speaker 4: map and we put pins in it, you know, every
Speaker 4: time we would get calls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. It's all over the world, All right, ladies,
Speaker 1: one last question, go ahead.
Speaker 12: That's the thing I started to reach. Watched the show
Speaker 12: as well during this quarantine because my boyfriend was with
Speaker 12: me and he never watched Scrubs before, so I wanted
Speaker 12: to rewatch it with him, and we watched it.
Speaker 11: On Amazon Prime.
Speaker 12: And I noticed the thing that you mentioned sometimes in
Speaker 12: the podcast that they changed a few songs, especially one
Speaker 12: it really pissed me off they changed it. It was
Speaker 12: the one in the second season when j D and
Speaker 12: Elliott kiss again and they start again and it's dreaming
Speaker 12: of you of the choral and I was so waiting
Speaker 12: for that scene and when it arrived, the song was
Speaker 12: a different one.
Speaker 11: So I was so pissed off.
Speaker 1: And we are too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So I it's wondering whether you have some one song
Speaker 12: or two that you really really like and you're attached
Speaker 12: to it, you know, in one sea of Scrubs, and
Speaker 12: you would really be angry if someone changed.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Good question.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, anytime Josh Rayden did music on the show,
Speaker 3: if that got taken off of the show, I would
Speaker 3: be very upset. One because Josh is a very close
Speaker 3: body of mine. And two his songs it seems like
Speaker 3: were made for the episodes.
Speaker 2: Of Scrubs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if Zach and Josh had a
Speaker 3: thing where Zach would be like, yo, I need you
Speaker 3: to write a song about this, and he'd be like,
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: But I mean the example that comes to mind the
Speaker 1: same thing with me is Robbie is Josh's song. Because
Speaker 1: you know we've told this on the podcast before, but
Speaker 1: when he wrote that song Winter that played at Benefaier's
Speaker 1: characters funeral, it was the first song you'd ever written.
Speaker 1: But he didn't have. Everyone was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. Where's your album? He's like, album, it's
Speaker 1: the only time ever written. So that one was particularly
Speaker 1: special to all of us because Josh was our friend.
Speaker 1: He started playing guitar late in life. He wasn't someone
Speaker 1: who played as a kid, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, with the thanks to Bill putting him in
Speaker 1: the show, his career blew up and he traveled, you know,
Speaker 1: when the world is not under lockdown. He travels all
Speaker 1: around the world, and you guy should see him when
Speaker 1: he comes to Italy because you'll you'll recognize a lot
Speaker 1: of his music that was in scrubs. Another person I
Speaker 1: want to just mention was Colin Hay who was really
Speaker 1: special for the show.
Speaker 4: And we're trying.
Speaker 1: To get brandall. I need your help. By the way,
Speaker 1: the fans are all listening. Yes, I need to get
Speaker 1: Colin's information because we'd like to have him on for
Speaker 1: the episode he was on in season two.
Speaker 4: Okay, I get you. Whatever I had is my last contact.
Speaker 4: But Colin was a real friend of the show and
Speaker 4: fun and funny and had a good sense of humor
Speaker 4: about himself. There was a song I think it's in
Speaker 4: this season, the Christmas episode in Donald you are running
Speaker 4: and we play center Man. Yeah, that song fel was
Speaker 4: super powerful in the episode. And and we were all
Speaker 4: disappointed when songs got changed out, particularly in those first
Speaker 4: couple of seasons, because we were sort of like the
Speaker 4: bastard step child over there and like always held to
Speaker 4: a very strict, low budget number. We licensed a lot
Speaker 4: of songs not for forever. You know, when you license
Speaker 4: a song may have something called in perpetuity and all
Speaker 4: of the media that is now known or yet to
Speaker 4: be figured out, and you can keep the song. And
Speaker 4: so there's one and two. The music wasn't licensed that way,
Speaker 4: so we had to make some of those decisions about
Speaker 4: which they kill.
Speaker 1: But I always assumed it was that I didn't know.
Speaker 1: What you're implying is that as the seasons go on,
Speaker 1: you then did shot started doing contracts that would cover streaming,
Speaker 1: but no one knew what streaming was at.
Speaker 13: The time, exactly exactly, So like the first couple of seasons,
Speaker 13: the first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run
Speaker 13: out and then and didn't renegotiate or sign on to
Speaker 13: continue the licensing, the network automatically just changed the song.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I actually had to sit with music
Speaker 4: editor of music Licensing for like, uh a week or
Speaker 4: so after the seasons were over in the summertime to
Speaker 4: figure out like what songs were. Oh.
Speaker 1: I always wondered who was who was putting these songs
Speaker 1: on We've we talked about that on the podcast that
Speaker 1: you don't listen to. But we always wondered, what what
Speaker 1: intern what intern somewhere is choosing these like second best songs.
Speaker 4: It's it was an exercise and killing babies like everything.
Speaker 4: It was great. But they're like, they're like, you absolutely
Speaker 4: cannot have all of this. You know, what do you
Speaker 4: want to say? Right?
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have center Man forever. All right, ladies,
Speaker 1: we have to move on because death has to take
Speaker 1: his kids swimming. And but thank you. I I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that you're I feel sad that your two sisters that
Speaker 1: are separated. That's horrible.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you want to say to each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is there anything want to say to each other
Speaker 1: while everyone's listening.
Speaker 2: It's a free call.
Speaker 11: Yes, we actually rehearsed it before.
Speaker 12: Can we take a picture with you?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Let me just get fresh for you. Let me get fresh.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, lady so much, thank you be saying so much.
Speaker 1: Safe nineteen oh nine, in the Bowling Alley, two people
Speaker 1: on the left side of the screen spike the lens
Speaker 1: looked directly into the camera. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the Bowling Alley. Is that not the
Speaker 4: day when our prop man got stuck.
Speaker 2: Under Yes, it is.
Speaker 4: It does to retrieve the ball that it reached it.
Speaker 4: It was proper set.
Speaker 1: Patrick, my name Patrick Bolton.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't because it was somebody who we laughed at
Speaker 4: much longer before we helped him. It was Acu. The
Speaker 4: thing came down on him and we thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 4: It was like a cartoon. Just saw his legs kick it,
Speaker 4: and then suddenly somebody was like, oh my god, we should.
Speaker 2: Probably take get him out of there.
Speaker 3: I remember he wasn't with us very much longer after that,
Speaker 3: either that.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: Soon after he hid rowdy in the ceiling.
Speaker 4: He went to that guy. No, that guy went to uh,
Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, two people at the bowling eye, look
Speaker 1: right in the lens. If you're interested in your in
Speaker 1: your new hobby of finding people who spiked the lens.
Speaker 1: Donald you say, my baby knows how to knock him down.
Speaker 1: That was funny.
Speaker 2: My baby does know not. That was a lot of
Speaker 2: fun I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Okay, like most episodes we've watched so far, when watching this,
Speaker 3: I didn't remember any of it. And I thought that
Speaker 3: was the cutest thing. I thought Turk and Carla was
Speaker 3: so cute and so on point for the joke when
Speaker 3: JD's like, you know, couples go through this, this is
Speaker 3: what happens. Name show me a happy couple. And then
Speaker 3: right away you see Turk and Carla enjoying themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that was wonderful, and they're so sweet together.
Speaker 1: I mean you just you just love them. And then
Speaker 1: especially of course when you cut to the documentary footage
Speaker 1: thing and they're you know, and they're being so adorable
Speaker 1: and and and both saying how much they love each other.
Speaker 3: No, and you're rooting for them yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: not necessarily for Elliott and j D in this episode,
Speaker 3: even though it starts offtware, you're rooting for them.
Speaker 2: You can tell.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Once it gets to the bad times, you're like, wow,
Speaker 3: these guys really aren't good for each other.
Speaker 1: Went sour so quick though.
Speaker 2: Very well, you only have a half an hour to
Speaker 2: tell the story.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying like in the world of the show,
Speaker 1: they dated for like in two weeks and then they
Speaker 1: were like, this isn't working.
Speaker 4: But I think that was a pit sision by Bill
Speaker 4: because he wanted you know, he didn't want to have
Speaker 4: that protracted will they yeah, they will, They want the
Speaker 4: friends thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Then he ended up doing it anyway.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, but that's the works well even at the end, right,
Speaker 3: but even at the end of the episode, you say,
Speaker 3: you know that that there do I think it'll work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: And JD's right. JD's right, it does work. It just
Speaker 3: doesn't work at that moment in time. In the long run,
Speaker 3: in the in the grand scheme of things, these two
Speaker 3: are meant to be together.
Speaker 1: So sad though I was, I was sad watching it
Speaker 1: that the two people who love each other who can't.
Speaker 1: I'm just a sucker for unrequited love and and love
Speaker 1: that cannot be. And here's two people that we want
Speaker 1: to be together but they can't.
Speaker 3: But that's when Harry met Sally, Like you said, that's
Speaker 3: it that's when Harry met Sally all over again, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, that's such one of my
Speaker 3: favorite that's first of all, one of my favorite movies
Speaker 3: Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan.
Speaker 2: But that story is great.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Fiona apple Lyric when she says,
Speaker 1: only kisses on the cheek from now on, and.
Speaker 14: Only they have wave, no, no, all right, if I
Speaker 14: need you, I'll just use your simple name.
Speaker 1: Keep going. Finish it.
Speaker 2: Only kisses on the cheek from now on, and in
Speaker 2: a little while, we'll only have to wave.
Speaker 1: That's so fucked up. They only have to wave. Hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing?
Speaker 3: Hey? I remember breaking up with someone and then going
Speaker 3: to give them a kiss and they gave me the
Speaker 3: cheek and being like, yeah, that's probably where what I should.
Speaker 2: We should probably gets.
Speaker 3: On the cheek from one one oh yeah, and now
Speaker 3: I just wave.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say is that when
Speaker 1: I liked how Judy a her delivery and also the
Speaker 1: writing when she she ends the documentary section and she
Speaker 1: says he seems to like who I am and I
Speaker 1: just thought that was so sweet, Like, you know, all
Speaker 1: bullshit aside, It seems like he genuinely likes who I
Speaker 1: genuinely am, and I just thought that was really pretty. Yeah, man, Randall,
Speaker 1: you've been a phenomenal guest.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're one step away from getting in
Speaker 1: your car with you, so we want to let you go.
Speaker 2: We should you just promise us you'll come back?
Speaker 1: And do you come back? Randall? I feel like you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a fan favorite because delight here is Randall.
Speaker 4: Randall.
Speaker 1: Do you use a washcloth in the shower?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Randall's black dude.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you this. I'm trying to tell
Speaker 3: you this. All black people use wash cloths.
Speaker 1: We have right, Randall, We love you. You can count us
Speaker 1: into our theme song. Thank you everybody for listening to
Speaker 1: Fake Doctor's Real Friends. Randall count us in three two one.
Speaker 1: Now he doesn't listen to the doesn't listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1: He's just been out. He's just been outed, you guys.
Speaker 3: Doesn't listen to the podcast five six, seven eight Stori.
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Speaker 6: I said, here's a stormy next all should no.
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