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Speaker 3: I great to be back with you, albeit not back

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Speaker 3: in the United States of America. It is Sunday, January

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Speaker 3: twenty second, twenty twenty three. It's episode three eighty two

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Speaker 3: of the Annik and Florian Podcast. What's Up, My Man?

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Speaker 3: Rocking the af Merch.

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Speaker 2: What's happening man?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: It's great, it's great to be here, great to be

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Speaker 2: talking about the fights. There's a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Crazy night, crazy nights, a.

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Speaker 3: Wild night, and you always set me straight in a

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Speaker 3: lot of respects and I love when I get to

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Speaker 3: Thank you to everybody for the feedback on the DraftKings deal. Again,

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Speaker 3: the AF channel. But again we're still working through that navigation.

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Speaker 3: We're going to make every effort to make these episodes

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Speaker 3: as easily accessible as humanly possible. But headlines today, of course,

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Speaker 3: whenever he god damn well pleases, so Ray Longo will

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Speaker 3: of thoughts on these fights as well. I just want

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Speaker 3: to say ken flow to you as a guy who

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Man. They're extremely passionate about

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Speaker 3: So when Clover to Schera says I'm too tough for

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Speaker 3: taking triple the damage as Lauren Murphy. Now, these are

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Speaker 2: No, well, listen, I would say, we need to look

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Speaker 2: There's no chance of this guy pulling it off. Glover

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, beautifully put as usual, And you're right, Glover

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Speaker 3: You know, guy's got a UFC championship belt at home.

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Speaker 3: The focus is on Alex Paneda and he's about as

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Speaker 2: I love that and I think that's accurate. You know,

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be no regrets, no regrets on his end

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Speaker 3: And he does still seem sharp as attack despite all

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Speaker 3: Anthony Lyonheart Smith came down here as the backup he

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Speaker 2: You know, it was unfortunate that it Smith didn't make weight.

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Speaker 3: y'all know Ken flows a star, but he isn't the

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Speaker 3: star of the show. That's very long ago. Let's get

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Speaker 3: to him. It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna push a hole in this fucking shows. That's

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Speaker 1: what I want, the Ray Long Minute, the John Nick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: Right hey, reading for Desaro, Raymond?

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Speaker 1: I got your answer for go ahead? What happens? The

462
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Speaker 1: next fighter becomes a double champ? How's that? How's that

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Speaker 1: for Matchmaking's the thing actually pulled? Pulled off? Kenny? He's

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Speaker 1: the one hundred favorite in that fight. He's a beast man,

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Speaker 1: He's a beast. He moves.

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Speaker 2: I imagine I'd imagine making one eighty five A guy

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Speaker 2: that big, it must be tiring and brutal to make

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Speaker 2: that weight at two on five, I've bet he's comfortable, strong, fast,

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Speaker 2: probably feeling better than he is at one eighty five.

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Speaker 1: What out of doubt, without a doubt, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a crazy fight, I mean, and that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: winnable fight for Pereira, which is insane. He becomes a

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Speaker 1: double champ with the least amount of fights ever in

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Speaker 1: UFC history. How's that? How's that? I guess that's crazy?

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Speaker 3: I know I like it, and I like your bringing it.

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Speaker 3: And hey, I mean I was I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you heard, if you were on, but I talked to

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Speaker 3: Jamal Hill last night and he mentioned the name Alex

479
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Speaker 3: Peda in the lobby last night, not that that would

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Speaker 3: be his first title defense, not that that would be

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Speaker 3: his first title defense. And let's also I forget I

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Speaker 3: think I think you guys bring up a good point

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Speaker 3: in terms of Alex Padata and maybe not playing the

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Speaker 3: long game. At one hundred and eighty five pounds, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he is, he's much bigger than Gover to share it, right,

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Speaker 3: So I do think eventually he's going to move up

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Speaker 3: to light heavyweight, but he has yet to defend the

488
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Speaker 3: middleweight title, and the OTTA sign your rematch is lurking.

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Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker could get the inside track if his he's

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Speaker 3: not ready, and that bell could be on the line

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Speaker 3: of in his april. So I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be now for Jamal Hill

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Speaker 3: and Alex Panada, but I do think there are legs

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Speaker 3: for that matchup. All right, Before we get back into

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Speaker 3: UFC two eighty three Raymond main event, Morob Dwallas, Willie

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Speaker 3: Oh fighting Pyotr Yead. I mean, you just, I mean,

497
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Speaker 3: you just can't stop preparing for this Pyodre. Yeah, you

498
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Speaker 3: just can't get rid of this guy.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what a huge platform from Rob. I love

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Speaker 1: the five round fight. Uh you know, he deserves it.

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Speaker 1: He's he's done what he had to do to get

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Speaker 1: this fight, and I think, uh man, I think that's fireworks. Man.

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Speaker 1: That's not an easy fight. That's gonna be a really,

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Speaker 1: really tough fight. So I like the five rounds, though,

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to see Morob in the five round

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Speaker 1: of just putting that pressure on. So right, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see al Joe was actually in this weekend, so

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00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: we were talking about it. But yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: at least he's got you know, his best friend and

511
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Speaker 1: training partner knows him very well. I think that's a

512
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Speaker 1: big plus. Uh, there's a couple of things. But really,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a great fight. I mean, just whatever,

514
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 2: Great fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great fight.

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Speaker 3: So Ray, you texted me during the main event and

518
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Speaker 3: you said, come on, John, he's taking a triple the damage.

519
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Speaker 3: Lauren Murphy did so talk to me about the UFC

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Speaker 3: Light Heavyweight Championship fight and ultimately your thoughts despite John

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Speaker 3: Hackelman's wishes that the fight did continue after that brutal

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Speaker 3: round four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, my point was I was being a

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Speaker 1: devil's advocate. I look, I'm not an early fight stopper.

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Speaker 1: I've got grown to be, you know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: from you know where I came from, that really wasn't

527
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Speaker 1: never kind of an option, right Kenny, back in the day,

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Speaker 1: that was you know, so we're getting small.

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Speaker 2: Keep going.

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Speaker 1: I was telling somebody the other day, you got knocked

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Speaker 1: out in the boxing gym. You were in there the

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Speaker 1: next day. They wanted to see if you could tough

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Speaker 1: it out, and that that was a fact that that

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Speaker 1: was happening, that would never happen today. I would me personally,

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Speaker 1: I would never read do it. I'm never to protect

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Speaker 1: the people. But my point was he took more damage

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Speaker 1: than Lauren Murphy from a big guy. You got two

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Speaker 1: big guys. One guy's forty three years old. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that that was the issue to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's so is it the damage or was it the

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Speaker 1: fact that we didn't think Laura Murphy could win that

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Speaker 1: fight at any course, and we still look up until

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Speaker 1: that was second I though Lover could win the fight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were going like, holy cro he's gonna

545
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Speaker 1: win the fight. He got the fight down with four

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Speaker 1: minutes to go, like this is crazy. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was that it was the competitiveness or

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Speaker 1: is it the amount of damage That was kind of

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Speaker 1: where I was going. I was just looking at provoke

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Nothing crazy. I'm glad got it. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. You know I'm not glad, but I'm glad

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Speaker 1: Glover got to go out the way he did. It

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Speaker 1: Definitely wasn't a showgun Rower, that guy for this fricking

554
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Speaker 1: bulls off, could have won that fight a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not, you know, maybe because Jamal did. They listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make the story about Glover either,

557
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Speaker 1: but when you fight a guy like Glover, that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: He is the story. But Jamal Hill did a fantastic job.

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Speaker 1: And as much as I wanted Glove to win, I

560
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Speaker 1: did pick Jamal Hill to win because I thought his

561
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Speaker 1: boxing was going to be on point. But man did Glover? Man,

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Speaker 1: he just forty three? Like you never know, when is

563
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: that last fight? When is that? When? Can't you do

564
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: it anymore? So, I there's so much to unpacked with that,

565
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Speaker 1: but the fact that he understood he was too tough

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Speaker 1: for his own good and he got out of that.

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Speaker 1: I love this guy, Like that's what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: I just hope he's okay, because this is a good individual.

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Speaker 1: This is a salt of the earth, solid guy who's

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Speaker 1: great for that community up there doing what he loves

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Speaker 1: to do. So I don't want to see him get hurt.

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Speaker 1: But I am glad he went out the way he

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Speaker 1: wanted to go out. And again, it's a big difference

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Speaker 1: in the way Ruhau went out, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: Right, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like again, John, there were times in that fight he

577
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Speaker 1: thought he was going to submit him or he's going

578
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Speaker 1: to go for you know whatever. You know, was just

579
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Speaker 1: just had the intensity of a great fight. It was

580
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Speaker 1: a great fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know, like Kenny fight with Yeah, I mean,

582
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Speaker 3: like Kenny's fight with Sean Shirk was very bloody, and

583
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Speaker 3: there were some other wars, but like Kenny never absorbed

584
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Speaker 3: even remotely that much damage in a fight, concussive damage, right, Kenny,

585
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Speaker 3: I mean, like not even fucking close in any of

586
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Speaker 3: your fights.

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Speaker 2: Huh, where are we? Who are you? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: What do you What are you talking about? What are

589
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Speaker 1: you talking about? John?

590
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Speaker 2: Chickens and windmills? What are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: You talk about you're talking about soccer.

592
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Speaker 2: Never got hitting my life, never got hit in my life.

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Speaker 1: Crazy, But you played soccer in college, right.

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Speaker 2: Brutal, brutal to.

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Speaker 1: Do the head is with the bull?

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Speaker 2: I was, I was out a big head. I never missed.

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Speaker 1: I never Do you want to listen? I mean, look,

598
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Speaker 1: I don't want to turn this down negative street, but

599
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Speaker 1: if you want to listen to something bad about concussions.

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Speaker 1: It was about a soccer player and the guy the

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Speaker 1: ct from Yeah, he was a famous soccer guy in England.

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Speaker 1: It's just it didn't it didn't end up well. It

603
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: was a horrible story, but uh, it does. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. You know, every everything carries its

605
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Speaker 1: own issues with it. But uh but yeah, I know, lovely,

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Speaker 1: you can't say enough about it. I was. I was

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Speaker 1: excited for him and just I just hope he's okay,

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Speaker 1: because again, he is a great guy and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: deserve to get banged up like that at all.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, Well, my daughter Riley is no Kenny

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Speaker 3: Florid on the soccer pitch, but she is on two teams.

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Speaker 3: And when I was in Rio, right, one of the

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Speaker 3: bullies on this other team stepped on Riley's toe. And

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Speaker 3: you know, Riley is my kid who's kind of like

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Speaker 3: the boy who Cried Wolf. She's pretty dramatic, little bit

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Speaker 3: of a hypochondriac like her father. So I'm in Rio

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Speaker 3: and she's like, Daddy, I think my toe is broken.

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Speaker 3: You can barely walk up the stairs. And my wife's like, yeah, okay, Riley, right,

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Speaker 3: so sure as shit, right, displays fracture the big toe.

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Speaker 3: She's in a boot for six weeks and she's gonna

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Speaker 3: miss the whole season. So just a less few parents

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Speaker 3: out there. Even if you think your kids are soft,

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Speaker 3: sometimes they might actually break the boat. So much to

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Speaker 3: get into today, I feel like we're already chasing the clock.

625
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Speaker 3: And we will have an extended UFC two to eighty

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Speaker 3: three recap coming up later this week. Brian Petree is

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Speaker 3: going to join us, will probably be joined by Santino

628
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Speaker 3: de Franco as well. But I want to transition to

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Speaker 3: the flyweight Championship if I could, and ray we'll start

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Speaker 3: with you on this. Brandon Moreno gets a second finish

631
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Speaker 3: in this fourth and final meeting against Davison Figuretto, and

632
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Speaker 3: there's nothing to talk about now as far as who's

633
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Speaker 3: the better man in this equation. You know, Daniel has

634
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Speaker 3: said repeatedly, Daniel Cormier that Manton Moreno's just a terrible

635
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Speaker 3: matchup for Davison Figuretto. But Brandon Moreno beat the best

636
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Speaker 3: flyweight version of Davison Figuretto this night. He finished them,

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Speaker 3: and the series definitely goes to Brandon. Raymond, your thoughts on.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, Look, those guys you know they could fight

639
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Speaker 1: ten times and who knows, you know, it's just going

640
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: to be a great fight every time. But look, Moreno

641
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Speaker 1: made the he made the changes right. I love the

642
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Speaker 1: way he implemented the takedowns right at the beginning.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You could see that this fight he fought with his

645
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: brains and not with emotion. I think he even referenced

646
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: that somewhere. But man, was he cold and calculated. And

647
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: I think that was the difference. That he probably could

648
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: have did that in every fight, but I think he

649
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: let emotions get the best of him and he was

650
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: swinging like a lunatic. Are off the times? And uh,

651
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: and that I don't know. So he did. I thought

652
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: he was smart, game plan fight IQ off the charts. Right.

653
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: We have a guy now that thinks he's part of

654
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: the podcast. This is a problem. No, let's go, coach.

655
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: We got some work to do. Hey, you know he's

656
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: waiting to go. He wants to watch football. He's mad

657
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: at me for doing this. Right, playoff football, But you

658
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: know we're here getting that work in.

659
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: Hey, we wish your Buffalo Bill's all the best. Hey, Matt,

660
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: you're the biggest power slap fan in the world. I've heard.

661
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: Is that true?

662
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Man? No, I can't watch it. I can't watch it.

663
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 3: No, I'm out. I'm out as well. Now it's just

664
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: it's just it's just traumatic brain injury. That's all it is.

665
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Now from all yourself, that's where I'm out. You can't

666
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: defend yourself.

667
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 6: The thing, it's nothing, you know, like like we were

668
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: talking before, like what are they gonna do next? They're

669
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 6: gonna have like knife fights and the I'm like, at least,

670
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 6: at least if they could defend themselves. You know, I'll

671
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 6: watch it if they could wax on wax off.

672
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: But you know, like we're gonna go up two stories

673
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: and we're gonna push each other off. And then yeah,

674
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: but we give the guy an elevator ride back up

675
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: though Kenny, he doesn't have to walk up the stairs.

676
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: We elevate him back up so he could push the

677
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: other guy off. I mean, this on was wait. You know,

678
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and I'm just saying I don't

679
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: like mean anything specifically by this, but I did watch

680
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: it in my first These were my and I'm saying,

681
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I love everybody. This is not has not to do

682
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: with it, But I when I saw doctor David's in there.

683
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I just go, it just cheapens what he does. And

684
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: then the other guy that I love and I love

685
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Davids and I love her Zog. I'm like, I just

686
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: thought it had such a negative effect that I really

687
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: looked up to. I don't know, Like again, I don't

688
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: mean anything by it. I'm just saying what I felt

689
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: when I was looking at it. I go, woll, I

690
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: just I can't believe that, you know, and and you

691
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: know what I.

692
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Equate it to. You know, there's NASCAR, there's F one,

693
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: there's Lemon and all that stuff. It's like there's racing,

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: but it'd be like me going starting like, hey, I'm

695
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: going to start a car accident Championship, you know what

696
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like, right, It's like there's racing, which

697
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: is dangerous. Fighting is dangerous, right, but they can defend

698
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: themselves there. But like having like something that's just going

699
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: to be reduced down to just like car accidents, just

700
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: like two cars slamming into each other. It's not cool

701
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: to me.

702
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: But because you know, even like Cunt the camp but

703
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: I've never met the guy, but they tell me he's

704
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: a super intelligent, smart guy. Uh yeah, I'm having a

705
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: hard time with that now, smart you know, Like again,

706
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: I just don't get why you would attach you So

707
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: there's no way this is making it. And I'm not

708
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: wishing any look, people could do what they want to do.

709
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting down on anybody. I'm just

710
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: saying I can't see how that makes it at all.

711
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: There can't be anybody that would pay for a pay

712
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: per view for that. Can then right or wrong, I

713
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't want to make no.

714
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: I mean, and we have said, yeah, we have plenty

715
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: of UFC two eighty three stuff to do. I was

716
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: just sort of joking around with Ribola because he had

717
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: pushed out until just understanding why this is all going on.

718
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, no, I mean, I do think though, you

719
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: bring up a good point, right when I see my

720
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: good friend Jason Herzog and his association with this, Like

721
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: I it's just the fact that the Nevada State Athletic,

722
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to get into it.

723
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: I want to get into hour skiff because I'm telling you,

724
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: we'll go down negative Street real quick.

725
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, and uh, it's not going to do me

726
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: any favors with anyone but Brandon Moreno some of the

727
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: other Sunity Champion.

728
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 7: All right, man, best buddy, that's your wife. Yeah, so

729
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 7: Brandon Moreno. Unbelievable, Ben Oh did you Yeah? I went

730
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 7: over last Sunday after the podcast. She's an amazing a made.

731
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: She looked fantastic, great spirits, everything, just what a just

732
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: made me feel good just seeing her feel good. It

733
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: was just a man, it's amazing to me. Amazing, that's

734
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: all you could say.

735
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: All Right, So Davison Figuretto is going to move up

736
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: to one hundred and thirty five pounds. Kenny, it looks

737
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: like ales Chandre Pantoja, who does have a couple of

738
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: head to head wins over Brandon Moreno. I think one

739
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: of those is an exhibition. But Pantoje, I guess, got

740
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: pretty testy with Moreno backstage. All indications are though Pantos

741
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: has been buying his time for a while. That's going

742
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: to be the next Flyway title, but yeah, and he's.

743
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: Doing everything possible to try to secure that that opportunity

744
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: against Moreno. Listen, I kind of want to go back

745
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: to the fight a little bit because I thought it

746
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: was a fan fantastic fight, excellent performance, from Moreno. Ray

747
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: was talking about the emotional connection to the fight, and

748
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: I think he's spot on if you go to Moreno

749
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: in his last fight, So the fight previous to this one,

750
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: he was walking out and I always think this doesn't

751
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: bode well for a fighter when they're coming out and

752
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm the best, I'm the champ, I'm gonna

753
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: do this. Well, it's like, don't say that, if you know,

754
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: if you don't really believe that, you kind of have

755
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: to say those things. I think it's like me being like,

756
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I have a maroon shirt on, I

757
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: have a beard, I have dark Harry, like, this is

758
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: a crazy person right here. So I think he came

759
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: out way more calm and composed. He didn't have to

760
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: pump himself up because he was genuinely confident heading into

761
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: that fight. And man, did he execute. He allowed Davison

762
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: to kind of come forward, used his aggression against him,

763
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: hitting some crucial takedowns, landed some good ground and pound,

764
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: got good position, and of course, you know, landed that

765
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: nice left hook there that landed on his eye, which

766
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: you know, compromised a Figurado movie forward. I think Moreno

767
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Pantojia is a great fight. I'm really interested in that.

768
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: I think Moreno's still a completely different guy, you know,

769
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: and I think there might be a different result. I

770
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: would love to see that. And for Figuredo, I think

771
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: he's making the right decision in moving up at one

772
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pounds because one hundred and thirty

773
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: five pounds, sorry, because he never quite quite looks so

774
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: comfortable at one hundred and twenty five pounds. You know.

775
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: It's like I could have fought at one forty five.

776
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Am I going to be at my best at one

777
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: forty five? Definitely not. So I think that was the

778
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: right move, especially moving forward as he's getting older, and

779
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: I still think he'll be fantastic at that weight class.

780
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to be a champion

781
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: in that stacked weight class, but I think he's going

782
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: to give a lot of people trouble and he's going

783
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: to be as dangerous as ever.

784
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: Brandon Moreno knows himself really well at twenty ninety years

785
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: of age, and you guys hit on a lot of

786
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: truths there I have on my fighter card. He admitted

787
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: to being emotional, bordering on angry, like in that third

788
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: meeting with Davison Figuretto and obviously he kept all of

789
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: that out of the equation, and uh, such a good dude,

790
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: and to have to navigate that post fight circumstance. I

791
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: like the way he still was able to put Mexico

792
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: over and uh dodging popcorn and beers on the way out.

793
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: Just a crazy fucking scene, real nuts. Yeah, back here

794
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 3: though it really has been.

795
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: And John just looking just thinking of emotions again. That's

796
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: what the first thing I would address with Morob is

797
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: the same thing, because you know, you have the Georgian thing,

798
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: the Russian thing. He's got to keep that out of

799
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: the equation. It's very very strong. We might not understand

800
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: that as Americans, but that's a very very strong emotion

801
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: right there. And that's the only thing that worries me.

802
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I would work on, even before

803
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: technique at that point, is that you have to stay

804
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: within yourself. Now, you can't go berserk because that against

805
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: a guy like that, that will not that that's not

806
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: a good, good, good thing to do.

807
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. We continue with our UFC two eighty

808
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: three recap and a lot of our prelim com on

809
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: the bon Fime Brothers is going to happen later in

810
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: the week. We wanted to give the champions a lot

811
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: of shine today. We might actually have to get some

812
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: from Longo on the Bonfien Brothers before we get out

813
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: of here. But I got to talk about Gilbert Tarinho Burns,

814
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: my teammate at the Institute of Human Performance, couldn't get

815
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: a fight after the Kamzat Chimaya fight last April. Jorge

816
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: Mosfiital turn him down three times. He also alleges that

817
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Baalam Muhammad turned him down even though Bilao wasn't given

818
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: necessarily eight or twelve weeks to prepare. But Gilbert Burns

819
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: is one of the best pound for pound fighters in

820
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: the world. Wouldn't he have to be right? He's undersized

821
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: for this division. He gave up like a foot in

822
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: fucking reach. The Magni camp loved this matchup for them,

823
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: and Gilbert Burns backs up everything he said all week.

824
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: He said, I have to finish Neil Magni. I have

825
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: to make a statement. If I'm in my zone in

826
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: a flow state, this fight doesn't last ten minutes, and

827
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: Ray Longo, it didn't last five.

828
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: Right, Look, I love a guy that I don't think

829
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: he was like saying anything bragadocio. I love a guy

830
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: that backs up what he says. Tenny, you gotta love

831
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: this guy. His jiu jitsu is off the whole. You know,

832
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Magne's no slouch to run through like that, and he

833
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: ran through him. I think he did make the statement

834
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: he needed another guy that you got to love when

835
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: you talk to him. And man, I'm waiting to see

836
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: what hope. He's got a lot of good fights ahead

837
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: of him. The Covington fight would be fantastic the guy

838
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: he called out, so yeah, yeah, no.

839
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Question about it. I think that was the fight that

840
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: he needed to prove to himself more importantly, that he's

841
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: of a different quality than a Neil Magne, who was

842
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: a very good fighter, just not really at an elite level.

843
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns had to show that, hey, listen, I can

844
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: be a champion in this sport. And that's one of

845
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: the few instances where you're coming off of a loss

846
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: where you actually ride even higher off of confidence, where

847
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: you know, Hamzat Chimaya, who is probably a decent size

848
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty five pounder, skillful everywhere, and he

849
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: still made it an absolute warring. So wait, a sec,

850
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: I can do this. I can beat the boogeyman here.

851
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: I had my chance. And you know, even you look

852
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: at what he did in Tomorrow against Camorrow in that

853
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: first round, So I think I think he did the

854
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: right thing. Performed brilliantly, no mistakes, didn't take any damage.

855
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: That's just a clean performance. That's what every fighter wants

856
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: right there. So awesome for him to get that, and

857
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: especially do it in Rio de Jonairo.

858
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's guys that talk, and you don't believe him

859
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: when he said that, you kind of I kind of said,

860
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: this fight's not the only ten minutes. I got a

861
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: lot of faith in Yellow Burns, and like again, I

862
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: think he needed that for his head. His confidence is

863
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: at an old time high at this point. Look that

864
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Jamaya fight is that ain't a blemish at all. I

865
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: mean he was put in there, not even to last

866
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: twenty seconds, and I think that fight goes totally different

867
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: if they fight again, especially if you make it a

868
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: five round fight.

869
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: You guys do make some good points, right because even

870
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: though Gilbert Burns at thirty six years old, is not

871
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: going to be cutting down the lightweight. And I know

872
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: it was hard for him even when he was younger, right,

873
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, you think about him as sort of like

874
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: a tween or one hundred and six fighter fighting Hamza Chimayev,

875
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: essentially a middleweight. It's just crazy how competitive he was.

876
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't even know who had won

877
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: that fight necessarily after fifteen minutes. But we'll see if

878
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: it'll be Gilbert Burns and Colby Covington. Got to think

879
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Gilbert's next opponent is either going to be Colby or

880
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: Blaw Muhammad. But I think he's wise to call for

881
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: the bigger fight, which is Colby Covington. With all respect

882
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: to our guy Blow Muhammad, who is firmly in that mix.

883
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: But congratulations to one of the best guys in the game,

884
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: Gilbert Urino Burns. All right, I want to quickly get

885
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: to Jessica, andraj and Lauren Murphy because Jessica Andrage I

886
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: just have so much respect for this lady and our

887
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame voting body is one man at UFC

888
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: President Dana White. But if I was ever to request

889
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: to sit down with Dana to advocate the candidacy for

890
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: a fighter to get into the Hall of Fame, it'll

891
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: either be Hafeyel dos Anjos or Jessica androj And I

892
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: don't even think I'm gonna have to advocate for andraje.

893
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: She's tied with a man in noon As for the

894
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: most wins in UFC women's history with fifteen. She's done it,

895
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: like Kenful, across three different weight classes. She chews up

896
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: and fucking spits out anybody in the top five that

897
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: isn't a champion like I don't know, like she Kenny.

898
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: I just I have so much respect for this woman

899
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: and this skill set and everything she does. She didn't

900
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: even have her head coach and just destroys Lauren Murphy

901
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: to add another chapter to her already appreciable legacy.

902
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: She's a beast man. She really is extremely dangerous. It's

903
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: rare that when you get someone at that weight class,

904
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: man or woman who can hit as hard as she does.

905
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: She's a devastating puncher. She's extremely powerful, she's tough, she's committed.

906
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: She's evolved a great deal over the course of her career.

907
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: And Lauren Murphy's a good fighter. She just had way

908
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: too many weapons, way too much power, way too much athleticism.

909
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time she does this repeatedly

910
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: in that division, so I thought it was a fantastic

911
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: win for her.

912
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like she could do this for another

913
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: ten years. To be honest with me, she looks she

914
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: looks fresh. She spoke well. I don't think she's absorbed

915
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: a lot of damage. I'd love to see what she said.

916
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to see bring the Wayley back to Brazil

917
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and fight in Brazil. I think that's a totally different fight.

918
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: I think everybody would love to see that fight. And

919
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: that's about it. But look, let's let's give Laura Murphy

920
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: a credit. I mean, she's got the grit of a champion.

921
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, she wasn't gonna be denied. She was fighting

922
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: til the end. Yeah, you could make a case for

923
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: stopping it. But and again, I know, we get into

924
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: these things. You don't want to say, well, the person's

925
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: got a good chin, and that's that's a good thing.

926
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: But she was in there. She was still swinging, you know.

927
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: I think that that was the difference. But you could

928
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: see she was a step behind with the speed, and

929
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I think the speed and power combined was was a

930
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: problem for But hats off to Laura Murphy for really,

931
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: really just sucking it up and making it through that fight.

932
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: We all know what the case is for stopping the fight, Ray,

933
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: But what's the case for not stopping it because Lauren

934
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: is still throwing? I mean, isn't that a lot of

935
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: muscle memory? Like, she didn't win a second of that fight,

936
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: And I'm paid to do a job, right, and this

937
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: whole notion of a moral victory right is the reason

938
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: to keep her in that fight so she doesn't get

939
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: finished and goes the distance with an all timer like andrage.

940
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: Is that what we're trying to do as a coach.

941
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm agreeing with you. I'm just giving

942
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: it up to her for having grid. I mean, I'm

943
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: just saying that's a you know, I would no no

944
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: to fight. The fight should have been stopped. And you know,

945
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: it goes back to the gloved thing. Glove always had

946
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: a chance of winning that fight at any time because

947
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: he can hit hard and he has great submissions. And

948
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: in the ground game, Lauren never got the fight to

949
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: the floor. If she did, you know, the girl got

950
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: right back up again. So it left out the intrigue

951
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: of you're almost just hoping for a hail Mary. I

952
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: think because you know, she's such a nice person. You

953
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: just want to see it do good. So there's there's

954
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: a motion, there's a lot involved. But with you, one

955
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent, John, I'm not even you know, like you

956
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: get I'm really what you I'm just was adding another shine.

957
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: Of course she was great.

958
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: You know, Joe and Lauren Murphy are two of my

959
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: favorite people in MMA. I consider Sean Madden to be

960
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: a friend, right, But I mean I had a confrontation

961
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: with a coach here, even in Rio, Like, even if

962
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: my public approval rating is a little bit higher than

963
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: it was in twenty twelve, there's always issues with fighters

964
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: and coaches. But I can't worry about that. I have

965
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: to have thick skin. I have to call it like

966
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: I see it. I just didn't need to see any

967
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: more of that after round two, you can be sure,

968
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: but real quickly Ken Flow as far as andraj and

969
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 3: Jongway Lee, looks like Valentina Chevchenko is going to defend

970
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: her belt against Alexa Grosso. I know there is a

971
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: ground twelve of momentum potentially for a superfight between Valentina

972
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: Chepchenko and Amanda Noons Are Valentina Chepchenko and Joan Way Lee.

973
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: But let us not forget Jessica andraj in twenty nineteen

974
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: slams her way to the title, and then three months

975
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: later she goes to shen Shen Shina and defends the

976
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: belt against Jeongway Lee. To be a good soldier on

977
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: UFC fight pass right, no pay per viewpoints, not on television,

978
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: fight Jong Way Lee on the fucking internet, like a

979
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: few weeks after winning the title. So to me, to

980
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: raise point, if ever an athlete deserves to have this

981
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: reciprocated and have that title fight in Brazil, it's Onosh.

982
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you didn't even have to say that stuff,

983
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: and I would say she deserves it. I had no

984
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: idea about that. That just adds more fuel and gives

985
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: her that much more of a push to get that

986
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: next shot. But I think that makes sense that that

987
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: would be fair to give her that second shot given

988
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: the circumstances of the last time.

989
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: Ray, you got to go here in a minute, don't you?

990
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

991
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Can I just quickly get your thoughts on Jose

992
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: Aldo being inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame.

993
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have two thoughts on this. My first thought

994
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: is that I really believe that's what they should have

995
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: did for Showgun. Huh, that's what that would have been

996
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: a nice retirement, show his highlights. Forget the fight, and

997
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: if you're going to get the nia, you make him

998
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: the favorite against somebody. You don't give him a fight

999
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: where he's the underdog and he's forty five years old.

1000
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't get that, Like, what's the point of that?

1001
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

1002
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: Well, ihor Potieria. If you look at the UFC's light

1003
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: heavyweight division, you can argue he's one of the lowest

1004
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: ranked fighters in that division, right. I think Brian Petrie

1005
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: acknowledged on our podcast last week that he had maybe

1006
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: one win over a fighter above five hundred when he

1007
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: got signed by the UFC. Like, you're right, Potierio was

1008
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: a two to one favorite. You're just thinking maybe somebody

1009
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: long in the tooth that I'm not thinking of that

1010
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: maybe would have provided a more level playfield. I don't know.

1011
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: I think they were kind of trying to get him

1012
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: a competitive fight.

1013
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, but anyway, so that's that.

1014
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: But the Joseld come on and that had to bring

1015
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: a tea to you, Right, here's a guy and Kenny

1016
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: shed the octagon with him, which is amazing because this

1017
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: is a guy that's been around forever that people did

1018
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: look up to. If you wanted to see devastating lake kicks,

1019
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: that's the guy you look for. If you wanted to

1020
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: see crazy knees takedown defense, he was the guy. So

1021
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: uh and again another really nice guy you know that

1022
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: that really deserves this more than anybody. But man, does

1023
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: his body of work speak for itself. Crazy. So that

1024
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: was a great moment. That's the way I like to see,

1025
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: even though it was a Hall of Fame and out

1026
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: of retirement, I'd rather see him shift to that where

1027
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: you show all those highlights. Yeah, you know, you get

1028
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: people talking for five or ten minutes, and that's the

1029
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: call of the day. I don't want to see guys

1030
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: going out like that. It means, you know, because we

1031
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: start rationalizing, you know, well, at least he got the

1032
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: fight again, even DC, like we got to see him again.

1033
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: I disagree with that, and I don't want to. You know,

1034
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: my thing with DC, I don't want to disagree with anything.

1035
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: No, I get it.

1036
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, John, you think if you actually tried to

1037
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: shove him, you could move him more than like sixteenth

1038
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: of an inch or really, Kenny, the guy's arms are

1039
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: busting out of his suit. I'm like, this guy, he's

1040
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: a house. He's a fucking house. This guy. What do

1041
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: you do with him? Kenny? Yeah? And the guy knows

1042
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: what he's Doinghulder. If that guy grabs you, what are

1043
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: you gonna do?

1044
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: You think you think you're to let go of you?

1045
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1046
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: No, listen, could I chime in about joseeld Or? Are

1047
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: we going to say about the Ray? Ray? You got

1048
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: to go home? No? I was going to say this.

1049
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna say this, and I'm sure Ray would

1050
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: would agree with this. You know, it's like, I don't

1051
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: care what organization. I don't care if you're fighting over

1052
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: an LFA or some small organization. If you were undefeated

1053
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: in this sport for ten years, you're a G. That

1054
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: should be like, Wow, I don't care. That's impressive, no mistakes,

1055
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: you're perfect for ten years. Congratulations, that's amazing.

1056
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: You're a G. But he wasn't just undefeated. He was

1057
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: dismantling a lot of people exactly exactly.

1058
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: So you have that he was a world champion in

1059
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: this sport. He was an innovator, he was athletically superior

1060
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: to to pretty much everybody out there. So he was

1061
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: doing things and other people just weren't doing Like people

1062
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: are learning from him. If you were just one of

1063
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: those things, you would be in press it. He was

1064
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: all of those things.

1065
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: He carried a division that the UFC didn't even want.

1066
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: He carried that freaking division. He brought light to that division.

1067
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: So all these bandam weights and you know, featherweight they

1068
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: owe with the jose Aldough, he trailblazed that whole thing

1069
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: for those guys, and man that he do a great

1070
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: job of it.

1071
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: You could also argue, I know this is a little

1072
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: bit of a push because Connor McGregor is a special

1073
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: individual who carries a lot of charisma and skill. But

1074
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: would Connor McGregor be Connor McGregor if he didn't have

1075
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: that win over Josie Aler. You know he gave that

1076
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: push to Connor McGregor.

1077
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unbelievable.

1078
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: Had won eighteen consecutive fights going into that meeting with

1079
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor.

1080
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: That, of course, a lot of guys get eighteen fights

1081
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: in the UFC. This guy won eighteen fights in a row.

1082
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: I got to say, too, Ray will let you go.

1083
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: But our coordinating producers at Candido does listen to this podcast,

1084
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: and I think you might even have his wheels churning

1085
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: in terms of the Showgun Hall of Fame stuff, right,

1086
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: because I think I think it's a little bit of

1087
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: a tricky navigation with the Hall of Fame when you

1088
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: get in for a fight. Diego Sanchez gets in for

1089
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: his fight with Clay Weed, and Dan Henderson and Shogun

1090
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: who will get in for their fight against each other.

1091
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: But I could sit here until I'm blue in the

1092
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: face and make modern era or pioneer era arguments to

1093
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: get into the Hall of Fame on their own individual

1094
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 3: merits for Showgun Whua, Dan Henderson, and Diego Sanchez. So

1095
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: I think that actually is a good idea, right Like,

1096
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: as Showgun Hua is retiring last night, you know, you

1097
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: do all the bells and whistles and you put him

1098
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. That would have been amazing.

1099
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: No, that's the way to go, John, trust me, as

1100
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: a fan and a guy involved in the sport. I

1101
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: loved what they did for Jose Aldough. I thought it

1102
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: was his retirement, which it shouldn't be, but it was

1103
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: a great thing. That's where I came. I would have

1104
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: just a great thing if they would have did that

1105
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: showgun and pay him his money, give him his money

1106
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: for the fight. Yeah, that's the way you go out

1107
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: in this organization. We have the money. We're going to

1108
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: put on a big spectacle for you with the highlights

1109
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: and interview people put it on. It brings a tear

1110
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: to people's eyes. Look at the Jose how the Hall

1111
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: of Fame, guys crying like a baby because of the

1112
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: excitement and just the joy of what that brought him.

1113
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: That's the way to go, Zach Candide, though, I promise you.

1114
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray Longo, thank you so much. I know we

1115
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: sort of tweaked the time on you today, but you're

1116
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: an absolute soldier and I always appreciate those texts on

1117
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: fight now you have no idea, So thank you man.

1118
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: You know I love you guys, and I would do

1119
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: anything for you. But I got a bunch of maniacs

1120
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: looking through a window now trying to get me out

1121
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: of here. Get out of this is why we, This

1122
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: is why we, This is why his team wins. Because

1123
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: it's Sunday and people should be on beware down here

1124
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: fucking grinding Watchapanas on the eighteenth Baby we're bringing it.

1125
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you.

1126
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: Laybody there he is. Look at fucking Ray Longo. I mean,

1127
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: that's how you outro yourself. Ray Longo met it every

1128
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 3: week here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So later

1129
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 3: this week we will talk about Ismael and Gabriel Bond theme,

1130
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 3: Bruno Fajita on short notice stepping in for Brad Tavores

1131
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: and he knocks out Gregory robocopp Rodriguez, a lot of

1132
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: great prelim performers. Jaijilta now made it. Of course, I

1133
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: want to get your thoughts on Johnny Walker over Paul

1134
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: Craig before we get to our final thoughts. You know,

1135
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: these guys were entrusted with this main card pay per

1136
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: view opening slot. You knew it was probably going to

1137
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 3: be a quick fight one way or the other. But

1138
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: I think for Paul Craig, I have a lot of

1139
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: respect for the skill set, but you know, a little

1140
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: bit of it is killer be killed, and you know,

1141
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, just all of a sudden, he went

1142
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 3: from having all this momentum and head to head wins

1143
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: against Jamal Hill and Maga mat Anklive and now it's

1144
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: two successive losses and he's not really in the mix

1145
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: at all. I want to talk about Johnny Walker, but

1146
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: overall thoughts on those to that fight and where they

1147
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 3: might stack up in the division.

1148
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: Now, john that last fight with Paul Craig, and this

1149
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: highlights highlights the importance of defense. It doesn't matter how

1150
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: dangerous you are in one area. If you could be

1151
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: killed easily, then you're doing it wrong. And I think

1152
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: that for Paul Craig, that's why we see these, you know,

1153
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 2: highs and lows in his career, where it's either submitting

1154
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: you with something just fantastic or he's getting knocked out

1155
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: with something fantastic. And you know that came with Johnny Walker.

1156
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: He stayed a little bit too close on that single leg.

1157
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't mobile on that single leg. He wasn't really

1158
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: off balancing Johnny Walker too much. Johnny Walker is too powerful,

1159
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: too big, too dangerous to allow him any free shots.

1160
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: And once he ate that first one man, it was

1161
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: all downhill form, so unfortunate. But on the other side

1162
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: of things, I think it was cool to see Johnny

1163
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: Walker fighting with way more confidence. It seems like he's

1164
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: been working hard on his game. He hasn't had perfect

1165
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: performances all the time, but it seems like he's settling into,

1166
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: you know, a point in his career where's he's kind

1167
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: of shored up some of those vulnerability. He's not a

1168
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: perfect fighter yet, but I thought that was a really

1169
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: good performance for him against a guy who is dangerous.

1170
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: So I thought he took advantage of that spot extremely well.

1171
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: Man, you just have such a way analytically right confidence.

1172
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it, right, that's the difference. That's the

1173
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: difference for me and Johnny Walker. And I do think

1174
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 3: that he was a victim of expectation early on a

1175
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: little bit right, started three to zero in the UFC

1176
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: with those three first round knockouts bonuses, you know, and

1177
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: then I think some of the setbacks against Thiago Santos

1178
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: and Jamal Hill I think really helped him. There were

1179
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 3: some injuries, right, the shoulder surgery, after the celebration that

1180
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: he breaks his foot in the Thiago Santo's fight, then

1181
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: he gets knocked out hard by Jamal Hill. He's a

1182
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: near two to one underdog against Ewan kute Laba beats him,

1183
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: and now he's won two in a row, and I

1184
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 3: gotta say, man, like great athlete, mentally and physically strong,

1185
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: tremendous frame, you can argue for two divisions, wildly popular

1186
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: in Brazil. A lot of the locals were saying, you know,

1187
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 3: Shogun Hua gets announced at the ceremonial way in and

1188
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 3: it just goes to show you that this fan base

1189
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: does turn over every three or four years because Shogun

1190
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: didn't get nearly the pop that Johnny Walker did. And

1191
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: we talk a lot about ja Yelton al Mada and

1192
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 3: his potential in two divisions. Johnny Walker to meet Kenny

1193
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: would seem to have a lot of potential at two

1194
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: ho five right now and eventually maybe even heavyweight before

1195
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: he retires.

1196
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: No question about I'd imagine it's probably difficult for him

1197
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: to get down at two hundred and five pounds. That's

1198
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: quite the frame he could put on even more muscle.

1199
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: Obviously extremely physically gifted. I wouldn't be surprised to see

1200
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: him fight it head toweight in the future.

1201
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 3: Well, a lot more coming up later in the week

1202
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: on UFC two eighty three at Anti Florian pod on

1203
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: social media. If there is any topic that you would

1204
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: like us to dive further into later in the week

1205
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: during our second episode, but Before we get on out

1206
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: of here, I would like to call on the executive

1207
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: producer of the Antic and Florian podcast, Cody Merriln. Before

1208
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: we get to your merrow seconds, I just would like

1209
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 3: to acknowledge you publicly for all of your help with

1210
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: our transition. I know you've been essentially doing this forty

1211
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: hours a week for the last two weeks to sort

1212
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: of help us navigate this, So just wanted to publicly

1213
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: thank you before you get to all the fucking shit

1214
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: that we missed over last hour.

1215
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 5: So well, thanks. Hey, anything for the fans. You know,

1216
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 5: the fans are what we do this for. So so

1217
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 5: we're trying to feedback to.

1218
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: So one thing.

1219
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 5: Just I have some other notes, But Kenny, can you

1220
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 5: imagine Jamal Hill versus Johnny Walker title fight? Like, wouldn't

1221
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: that just be insane?

1222
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: It would? I think that'd be very interesting. Johnny Walker's

1223
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: got some work to do, but yeah, I think he can.

1224
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: I think you eleven months ago, yeah exactly, I.

1225
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: Think you get back right. Well that was that was

1226
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: a brutal that was on the promo.

1227
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah though, yes. So.

1228
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 5: UFC two eighty three was the first three UFC event

1229
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 5: back in Brazil with a crowd since November twenty nineteen, John,

1230
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 5: you were on that call. If my research is correct,

1231
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 5: your last time in Brazil was May eleventh, twenty nineteen

1232
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 5: four on joge Versus nomini utus.

1233
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: Right, yes, right, the last time we had fans in Brazil. Yeah,

1234
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: UFC two thirty seven. Yep, yeah, so at that fight.

1235
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: So since then, Jessica's fought seven times. So that gives

1236
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: you kind of the the sense for yourself, like when

1237
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: the last time you were in Brazil where the crowd was,

1238
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: So just what are you what were your thoughts on

1239
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: the crowd?

1240
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 5: Just final notes there.

1241
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you're giving me a chance to sound

1242
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: off on this. And by the way, on jaj in

1243
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: terms of the activity, I will say twenty twenty two

1244
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: the only year since she signed with the UFE in

1245
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: which she hasn't competed at least twice. So look for

1246
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: a busy twenty twenty three for Jessica on JOG. But no,

1247
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, there was a time in my life, as

1248
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: Kenny knows, that I was going to Brazil six times

1249
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 3: a year to these remote locations Ja Daguadu Seul, traveling

1250
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: from Las Vegas away from my family, non air conditioned

1251
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: venues main cards at three o'clock in the morning, and

1252
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't get back to the States fast enough, but

1253
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: have this little breather to come back to Rio for

1254
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: this pay per view with this backdrop, in this setting.

1255
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 3: It was absolutely incredible. I've never been this excited to

1256
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: come to Brazil. Not that I'm not excited to get

1257
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: back to the US tomorrow, but no, I mean it

1258
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: was absolutely insane, them stomping their feet and creating all

1259
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: of this noise. I mean they really do unite as

1260
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: one underneath that roof, and uh yeah, it was a

1261
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: special man.

1262
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: And how's that brazili and Usiu. Dude, It's totally different

1263
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: in real than in Brazil than it is in any

1264
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: and the States, right, Relicious.

1265
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: I am gonna be done with you guys in five minutes.

1266
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do some record creational drugs with Bruce Buffer,

1267
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 3: and then I'm going to go get some SIU. Everything's

1268
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: different about it. And I live in Florida, Kenny, right,

1269
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: And I know you experienced some pretty good o sie

1270
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: in California. I live in Florida where actually a lot

1271
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 3: of Brazilians try very hard to do a c Iu

1272
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: Well and it's not the same at all. The consistency,

1273
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: the color not even close. So yes, we're off to

1274
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: get you bring them back.

1275
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: Can you bring them back in the suitcases? That gonna

1276
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Speaker 2: melt everywhere all over suit?

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Speaker 3: Just it, it'll probably mesh nicely with Glover's blood all

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Speaker 3: over my green suit. But uh yeah, what else you got, Cody? Well?

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Speaker 5: And way to blow the news on the fact that

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Speaker 5: the three of us and Bruce are opening up a

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Speaker 5: dispensary slash shop.

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Speaker 3: In Boltte, Florida.

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Speaker 5: So the way to break the press release there, John,

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Speaker 5: Thanks so continue notes Finn, the night was Jamal Hill

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Speaker 5: and Clover to Shara.

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Speaker 3: Also is Mail bon Fime and Jelton Amida.

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Speaker 5: You said you're gonna get more more bon fiend later

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Speaker 5: in the week, so I won't go into anything more there.

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Speaker 3: Huh. So it's my l bond theme obviously got the bonus,

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Speaker 3: but Gabrielle did.

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Speaker 5: Not correct on the record at least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, discretionarily obviously, gabriel bond Fime is going

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Speaker 3: to be taken care of a little surprise to s ce

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Speaker 3: Jai Jilta now may to get a bonus, but good

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Speaker 3: on them nonetheless.

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Speaker 5: So more notes. Just one last note on Onrage two

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Speaker 5: hundred thirty one significant strikes for her as the UFC

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Speaker 5: flyweight record. It was the second largest for a three

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Speaker 5: round fight, behind Diaz versus Seroni.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, and so she's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I also believe per the notes that I was reading

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Speaker 5: on Shirt Dog was that she is only the she's

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01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 5: the only fighter to have eclipse two hundred significant strikes

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Speaker 5: twice in her career in a three round fight. So

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Speaker 5: she's insane.

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Speaker 3: She's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: So that is a flyweight record. And last week, you know,

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Speaker 5: we did break some news, but Valentino chef Chanko versus

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Speaker 5: Lexa Grosso was also broken for the comin event from

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Speaker 5: RCH fourth. So a big fight in the flyweight division

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Speaker 5: coming up. Do you have a do you venture a

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Speaker 5: guest Kenny on what the odds are for that?

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Speaker 1: On DK sportsbook?

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Speaker 2: Say cheft Chenko? What probably like five to one, six.

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Speaker 5: To one, Yeah, minus six hundred. That's why Kenny gets

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01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 5: paid the big bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I rarely get those right, but I'll.

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Speaker 5: So just to continue along those lines. Early line movement

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Speaker 5: John Jones when the fight broke was an underdog. He's

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Speaker 5: now moved. He's now minus one twenty for.

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Speaker 2: UFC two eighty five.

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Speaker 5: Wow, quick line movement. Some smart plays there. You know,

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Speaker 5: I know I'm one of them. So I had to

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Speaker 5: get on that dog money more line movement, Kamara Luzmann.

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Speaker 5: The odds did come out on DK Sportsbook minus two

1326
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 5: forty five versus Leon Edwards plus two oh five for

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Speaker 5: that rematch.

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Speaker 3: Surprise there, John, That's very interesting, Kenny, in terms of

1329
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Speaker 3: that trilogy fight between Leon Edwards and Kamara Usman. So

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Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns is still working with Kamar Usman a little

1331
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: bit here and there. But Gilbert Burns this week in

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Speaker 3: Real was asked about that trilogy fight and who he

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Speaker 3: thought would win it, and he said, with an argument

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Speaker 3: largely rooted in the altitude in Salt Lake City, He's

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Speaker 3: picking Leon Edwards because he said Leon Edwards got off

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Speaker 3: to a great start in the altitude, then he feels

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Speaker 3: like that affected him in the middle rounds and then

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Speaker 3: obviously we all know what happened in the fifth round.

1339
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Speaker 3: But I'm so curious for our fighter meeting with Leon Edwards,

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: so I can say, like, so I think what we

1341
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: want to have that conversation like why was the performance

1342
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: so listless in rounds two, three, and four, Like do

1343
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: you have answers internally as to why you couldn't get

1344
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: off at all for major portions of that fight. But

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Speaker 3: I did think it was interesting that Gilbert Burns talked

1346
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: a lot about the altitude and went on record as

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Speaker 3: saying he thinks Leon Weinsley the third meeting.

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Speaker 2: That's very interesting and that's totally feasible because it seemed

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: like he didn't have that same kind of spunk, He

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Speaker 2: didn't have that same kind of energy moving around the

1351
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Speaker 2: octagon that you typically see from him for were huge

1352
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: part of the game. Obviously huge part of the game

1353
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Speaker 2: for Leon Edwards, who is a very sophisticated fighter, has

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: a lot of skills. So huh yeah, think about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: Well And interesting too because everyone wanted to jump right

1357
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 5: to Kamaru's outside of the octagon things to blame the law.

1358
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: You know, they're like, oh, he's not focused, he's going

1359
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 5: Black Panther, which comes out on Disney plus a couple

1360
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 5: of days, you know, cheap player, but interesting, interesting to say.

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Speaker 5: The least minus is two forty five on DK Sportsbook.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure I've ever been more interested to

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: have a fighter meeting than when we sit down with

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Speaker 3: Leon Edwards in England just to try to get some

1365
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Speaker 3: answers as to how they felt about the totality of

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01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 3: that fight.

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Speaker 5: John, gun to your head, fish and chips or as.

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Speaker 3: Ie asie just because you're asking me today. But I'm

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Speaker 3: a big fried food guy, so I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we know it chose do we know? Shout out Jay? Yeah?

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 5: So no, Cody's covered this week. But if you watch,

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Speaker 5: remember the show, which we've had over one hundred UFC

1373
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: athletes and now have you know our first homegrown champ

1374
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 5: in Jamal Hill, you know huge, remember of the show

1375
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 5: for people, I did give out Burns to win by

1376
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 5: finish in round one in the under one and a

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01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 5: half walker versus Craig.

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: So fade me your own peril.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: Merow's on fire than the Draft Gig sports book. Got

1381
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: to get that going in Florida. All right. That is

1382
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: going to do it for this episode, but not for

1383
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 3: this week. As you know, the Anakin Floring podcast throughout

1384
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: two thous in twenty three, not one but two episodes

1385
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: a week and our next episode will probably drop on

1386
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: the DraftKings YouTube channel on Thursday. Clips on our socials

1387
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: as well as the anak Implorian podcast channel. Also, don't

1388
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: forget remember the show is back this Thursday with Bala

1389
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: Muhammad and Jason Anik and we will be live later

1390
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: this week with Coach Santino DeFranco Brian Petrie as we

1391
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: continue the UFC two to eighty three conversation and get

1392
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: to anything else that materializes in the MMA stratosphere over

1393
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: the next forty eight hours. Thank you to our executive

1394
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 3: producer Cody Merril, thanks to Ray Longo from my man,

1395
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: Kenny Flori and John Annak signing off from Rio Dijonaire.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you in a few days. Until then,

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Speaker 3: you're fucking later.