1 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Hey ba fam Mandy here, I am solo this week. 2 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Tiffany left me. Y'all. No, in all seriousness, Tiffany got 3 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: an extraordinary opportunity and we love those here. I mean, 4 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: we don't call it Brown Ambition for nothing. So Tiffany 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: is off doing her thing this week, and I have 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: been saved by the one and only stock market slayer herself, 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Deliane the Money Coach. You guys, I cannot wait for 8 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: you to meet Delianne. In fact, selfishly, I'm kind of 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: excited about this because with Tiffany being gone this week, 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: it gave me a chance to reach out to delian 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: and connect with her on IG. I just shot my 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: shot and I said, I love your content. I love 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're blowing up. I want you to 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm on Brown Ambition and share your story with our audience. 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: And on top of that, it is Hispanic Heritage Month 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: and it really meant a lot to me that we 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: could showcase one of the baddest ass bad asses. I 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know how to say that, one of the best 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Latinas in the game right now. And the fact that 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: there even is a huge influencer space now for Latina 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: money coaches and money influencers, y'all. It has been a 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: long time coming. I am a huge fan of Delianne. 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I know you guys will be too when you hear 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: from her. But let me do a quick intro. So 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: if you don't know about Delianne, she is a Latina 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: money expert and ex employment law attorney. Yeah, she was 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: an entire attorney y'all before she pivoted. And she is 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: going to talk about how she just quit her job 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: less than what six months ago, and how she's now 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: on track to retire by age forty five and move 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to where, of course, to Portugal like everybody else, it seems. 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Through her business, delian the Money Coach, Delianne has as 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: a goal to show investors that they don't need to 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: wait to become debt free or earn six figures in 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: order to reach financial freedom. Over twenty five hundred students 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: have enrolled in her Sleigh the stock Market course, which 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: you can find at the link in the show notes, 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: and Delian's been featured everywhere CNN, Time Business Insider, all 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: highlighting her work in support of financial literacy, and of 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: course check out the show notes to follow her on 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok under her handle delian the Money Coach. 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Now let me get out of my own way. Tiffany, 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: we hope you are slaying over in La doing your thing. 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm so excited to introduce you guys 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to delian So here is our conversation and be sure 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: to come back Friday when we air our BAQ and 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: A episode. Delianne stuck around and she helps me tackle 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: y'all's questions this week. All right, here we go, here's 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: the show. All right, Delianne, thank you, Thank you so 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: much for joining Brown Ambition. Thanks for saving my butt. Honestly, 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: I am honored. 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: You can call me anytime and I'll be here. 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Just slid into your DMS. Well, listen you are. I mean, 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have co hosts that often. We 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: did have a few this past summer. And one of 56 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: my favorite things about inviting someone to sit in the chair, 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: the virtual chair across from me, is genuinely every story 58 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: is so unique, and yours is definitely one that I 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: have been following. It feels like for the past year 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: you've just blown up and I'm like, what is she doing? 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: She's got this? You've got this amazing platform. You are 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: empowering Latina women especially to take charge not just of 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: their finances but of the stock market, which is just 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: something that until a couple of years ago, there just 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: wasn't really anybody I feel like representing that space. So 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: thank God, thank Goodness for you and others like you, 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and thank you for joining Brown Ambition. 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Of course, thank you for having me. I'm always flattered 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: and I love spreading this idea that things are changing, 70 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: Like the conversation around money's changing, the people who are 71 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: talking about it are changing, and I'm like so honored 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: to be part of that movement. 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you so your background, I mean, 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: first of all, you've got you've had a bunch of 75 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: different lives, it feels like professionally, but you were an 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: attorney and then you transition from being a badass attorney 77 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: to an editor for like a legal publication, right, and 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: then you quit entirely and now you are delhi Enbado 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: Slay the stock market, teaching investing courses online. But let's 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: back it up, because I've been reading up on you 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize you're originally from Brazil. And is 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it true that you came to the US, and for 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: a long time you were actually undocumented. So tell me 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: about that, tell me about your origin story and sort 85 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of how you have gotten to where you are today, 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: because that is such an incredible and unique story that 87 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't think many people know about you. 88 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's funny because it doesn't seem like 89 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: that long ago, but I'm like, wow, it's been a lifetime. So, yeah, 90 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: my father got laid off in Brazil and there aren't 91 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: that many opportunities where we're from, so he packed us 92 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: up brought us to the US. I was eight years old, 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: my sister was four, and we moved to Miami and 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: that's pretty much like where I grew up from eight 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: to twenty one. And yeah, we were documented, all of us, 96 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: So we were pretty much coached by our parents, like 97 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: stay out of trouble, go to school, you know, like, 98 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: don't misbehave, don't act out, because we can't bring attention 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: to ourselves, right, Like, every moment could be a risk 100 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: for one of us being sent back. So growing up 101 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: with that fear looming over you, it's something that you 102 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: don't ever really let go of, right, It's something that 103 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: is still a part of me today, anything having to 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: do with immigration still gets me like sweating, even when 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: I go to the airport and you have to go 106 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: through immigration. Here, I'm standing here with my American passport, 107 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: which I've wanted my entire life, and I didn't get 108 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 2: till what three four years ago I became a citizen, 109 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: and I still get like the sweats. So, yeah, we 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: weren't documented because we came over as tourists. We overstayed 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: our visa, you know, not something that was I was 112 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: consulted about. I was eight years old and I haven't 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: day spoke English. 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: None of you spoke English either, okay. 115 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: And so we all learned, you know, tray by fire. 116 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: I was an esaul. I was bullied during school, you know, 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: typical treatments that you get when you're a foreigner, when 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: you're different, right, and when you're growing up in elementary 119 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: high school, if you're different at all, you're gonna get bullied. 120 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: So this was part of that. But thankfully I was 121 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 2: in Miami. I definitely wasn't the only one, but growing 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: up there was a little claustrophobic. So finally I did 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: get my papers, I did become a resident, and I 124 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: just immediately enrolled in college, put myself through law school. 125 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: I paid all my student loan offs last year, which 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: was a who one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 127 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Let's just pause there for a second, because it was 128 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: a hundred and you're making it sound like, yeah, I 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: just did this, I got my papers. Yeah whatever, just 130 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: checking the boxes. One hundred and fifty k. Yeah, everyone 131 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: can do that. Uh huh. Now I'm going to retire 132 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: in Portugal. But let me slow it down. Okay, law school, 133 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: why law school? Why was that where? Why was that 134 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: sort of your your profession of choice? And talk to 135 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: me about the I mean, this thread of the mental 136 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: toll of that fear. You know, I don't know if 137 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: your parents are citizens now or what their status is, 138 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: but tell me about that fear and how that sort 139 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: of led you into your decision making when you were 140 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: when you were figuring out school and your career. 141 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was terrifying because and it was also heartbreaking 142 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: because I saw all my classmates making big plans to 143 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: go to these colleges. They were getting scholarships, they were 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: getting financial aid. I didn't qualify for any of those things, right, 145 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: So I'm graduating at the top of my class in 146 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: high school, and I'm stuck. I'm pretty much frozen. There 147 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: is no assistance for anybody like me. I would go 148 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: to the school counselor I would talk to the principal, 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: there's like, there's nothing we can do. So I was 150 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: basically on my own until I figured out the immigration 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: situation on my own. But once that got resolved, I'm like, Okay, 152 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: I could start living my life because I literally felt 153 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: like my life was on pause. And why did I 154 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: choose law school? Well, it was either that or medical school, 155 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: because like any other immigrant, I'm like, I have to 156 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: overcompensate for all of my parents, you know, shortcoming, and 157 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: so I'm like, which one is it going to be? 158 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: I always knew I wanted to help people. Math completely 159 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: terrified me, even though I took calculus. Well whatever, I decided, 160 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: let's go to law school. No math. And then I 161 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: was deciding whether I was going to do immigration or 162 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: employment law. So I did my internship and immigration and 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: I tested that out, and I don't know, maybe it 164 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: was a little too close to home. It was just 165 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: too emotional for me. But I'm like, how can I 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: still help this population through another way? And so I 167 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 2: chose employment law and I did plain of side employment law. 168 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: So I represented employees in discrimination cases, wage in hour cases, 169 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: contract negotiations, you name it, right, I was doing those 170 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: type of cases. And I did that for seven years litigation, 171 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: and it was rewarding work. But if you've talked to 172 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: any attorney, being an attorney is extremely stressful. You're getting 173 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: stressed from all different levels, the partners, the clients, the 174 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: your coworkers, everywhere, right, And it's just this constant stress 175 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: and very little support, especially for people of color, especially 176 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: for women of color. And so I felt very isolated 177 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: and I felt overwhelmed, and I felt like I chose 178 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: a profession again because I was trying to prove a 179 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: point instead of really following my heart, you know. And 180 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: so and also because I wanted financial security. God, I 181 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: desperately want it. I was, you know, we were poor. 182 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: I was living in Miami. I was living in an apartment. 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: I tell people, I'm like, I used to live a 184 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: broom by the door because I would come in and 185 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: have to kill the cockroaches because it was like a 186 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: little kitchenette and it was there was no sink in 187 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: the bathroom. I had to like brush my teeth in 188 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: the shower. It was, you know, not a good situation. 189 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: And so for me, education meant lifting myself out of poverty, 190 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: Like I needed education to be that ladder for me 191 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: out and it did. It become that ladder, but it 192 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: also trapped me in this capitalist game that I didn't 193 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: realize I was now part of. And so walking away 194 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: from my legal career took a huge mindset chef for 195 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: me to have. 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: That was because that wasn't even that long ago, was it. 197 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about. 198 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean I literally quit in March of this year. 199 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Wait, just this past March? 200 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, March twenty twenty one, what I put in 201 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: my notice. 202 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: So that's a big milestone, especially for anyone who's like you. 203 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: For example, you discovered the Fire movement, financial independence retire early. 204 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: When was that a couple of years ago or so? 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: When you discovered that movie? 206 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen years soon, I'm heard of 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: moresonware a Like I discover something, I go all in. 208 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm finding that out. I'm like, good lord, we've been 209 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: doing this show for six years anyway, So tell me, 210 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean you discovered the Fire Movement, You're you quit 211 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: your job less than a year ago. How has the 212 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: what are your what are your parents think? What do 213 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: your parents think of what you're doing? 214 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I unfortunately my dad's not in my life, 215 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: but my mom is. She lives in Brazil. She was 216 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: just wrapping her head around the fact that I was 217 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: an attorney. She's like starting to understand what I did. 218 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: And now I'm like, oh, I'm not that doing that anymore. Mom, 219 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: I teach people about investing in the stock market. She's like, 220 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: what so, But she's very supportive. She's like, she just 221 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: wants to see us all happy and healthy, taken care of. So, yeah, 222 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: we have this distant relationship because she's been living in 223 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: Brazil for the last what twelve thirteen years? 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Oh so she went back when you were still, yeah, 225 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: in your twenties or so. And you so you have 226 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: a little sister. 227 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: I have two little sisters, one that lives in Hawaii 228 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: and one that lives in Colorado. 229 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Do you guys take care I have siblings and where 230 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel you because my siblings live in different states too. 231 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I feel like I spent my 232 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: twenties just not really caring about the distance. But Now 233 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: that I'm in my mid thirties and I got a baby, 234 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, why do you guys live so far away? 235 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: But how important are those relationships to you? 236 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: No? Absolutely, And so my sister now lives in Hawaii, 237 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: which is the closest we've been geographically in forever because 238 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: she's live in Singapore. So now it feels like she's 239 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: right there all of a sudden, but she'll probably be 240 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: moving again. 241 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 242 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Same as I've gotten older, I felt that having that 243 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: physical proximity to your family is really really important. So 244 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: my hope is to retire in Portugal and bring my mom. 245 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: I want to like bring the nucleus back together. I'm 246 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: trying to convince my sister to move there my mom, 247 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: and I'm like, let's get the family back together. 248 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 1: Why Portugal? It seems like everyone's moving to Portugal. Portugal's 249 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: got some like serious shine on it right now? What 250 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: is in the water over there? Yeah, tell me about it. 251 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: How did you arrive at that decision and what drew 252 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: you to it? 253 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: I can't speak to for everyone else. I'm Brazilian, so 254 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: for me then is natural. I see Portuguese, although the 255 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: Portuguese there is different. I visited two three years ago. God, 256 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: everything's jumbled now, and I absolutely fell in love with it. 257 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: I've always loved Europe, Spain, Italy, France, but when I 258 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: visited Portugal it felt like home, Like the people were lovely. 259 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: It just it was safe, it was calm. Right, I'm 260 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: just coming from New York because I lived in New 261 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: York City for fifteen years. It was just a different vibe. 262 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: And when I started putting together my financial independence plan, 263 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, Wow, it's going to be difficult to 264 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: swing this here in the States, right, especially now that 265 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: I'm living California. But I'm like, what if I moved abroad? Right? 266 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: But then the again, the immigration thing came up, the fears. 267 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna deal with immigration again. 268 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: I just became a citizen. Now I'm gonna I don't know. 269 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: I felt like I was risking it. But then I 270 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: realized that becoming a citizen in Portugal is actually quite simple, 271 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,479 Speaker 2: quite easy to move there, to become. 272 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: As I think of a country welcoming to immigrants. 273 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, right, how odd? And so they have something that's 274 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: called the D seven visa visa, which is basically, if 275 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: you have any kind of passive income. There's like a 276 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: threshold that you have to meet. You meet that threshold, 277 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: you can come live there and you can become a 278 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: citizen after five years done. And that gives me a 279 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: lot of peace of mind, not only for myself but 280 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: for my mom because I'm going to be taking care 281 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: of her. So even though I don't have kids, I 282 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: am taking care of a generation above me, right, and 283 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: so I want to make sure that she's taken care 284 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: of that she has health, insurance, access to all of that. 285 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: And it was important when I was choosing which country 286 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: that I could check those boxes. 287 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful. So what's your goal? When are you 288 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: going to be in Portugal? When what it does? And 289 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: when you said, first of all, I'm a victim of 290 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: my own deadlines all the time, so I'm just I'm 291 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: going to ask you this, But I'm also thinking you 292 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: can move your deadlines anytime, girl, like, it is not 293 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. I don't mean to put 294 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: any pressure on you, but any going to be there. 295 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you said that because that's how I 296 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: am too. When I speak something into existence, I feel 297 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: obligated to make it happen exactly as I said it, 298 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: And that's such a I don't know if that's a 299 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: scorpio thing. I don't know if that's an immigrant thing 300 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: or a type a thing. Yeah, yes, the timeline is 301 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: about in the next two years. 302 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Two years, okay, holy shit. 303 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, the only reason for that is because I 304 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: want to get over there do some scouting, and I 305 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: haven't been able to because of you know, the panoramic. 306 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: So once I have a minute to hang over there, 307 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: do some house shopping, house hunting, feel a little bit 308 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: better about where we're going to land, then I will 309 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: probably be escalating those plants. 310 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: So what I love about your story too, is that 311 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: you acknowledge like I was a full a full lawyer, 312 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: a full attorney at law four blocks away from Wall Street, 313 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: and even I didn't know how investing work. You've said, 314 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: how investing works, you said, or how the stock market worked. 315 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: So what was that aha moment for you? And I'm 316 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: even just getting a sense from our conversation so far, 317 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure like you learned it and you were immediately like, Okay, great, 318 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: these are the facts. Now I'm going to implement this, 319 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: and four years later you're going to be in Portugal. 320 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: But walk us back to that moment. What was that 321 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: like for you? I mean you you even say that 322 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: you weren't even investing in your four oh one k You. 323 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Know, well I was. I was, Actually I was investing it, 324 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: thank god, from twenty eleven, but without understanding anything what 325 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: was going on inside of it. Like literally my hr person, 326 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: which was a woman of color, a black woman, which 327 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, thank god, somebody was looking out, came to 328 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: me and said, excuse me, why aren't you investing in 329 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: the four one day? Literally free money? What are you 330 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: talking about? And I'm thinking, what are you talking about? 331 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: Why do I need to be thinking about this right now? 332 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: I have all these student loans. You want me to 333 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: think about my life in my sixties, I don't have 334 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make life work here in New York City. 335 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: She's like, no, no, no, you have to sign up for it. 336 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Thank god she did that, And so I have had 337 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: it for the last ten years, and it is the 338 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 2: account that I'm most proud of because it's the one 339 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: that I've put the least amount of money and it's 340 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: grown the most. So it shows you, like the power 341 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: of compound interest. 342 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: You know, we're like, we're stock markets soul sisters. I 343 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: feel like because I started my four one K and 344 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty eleven as well, although I was for a year 345 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: not investing at all. And what I love about your 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: story and actually I was just CNBC recently ran a 347 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: story that I wrote about my net worth journey, and 348 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: first of all, the bros at CNBC on their ig 349 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: page like I can take it, Like what does that mean? 350 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: You know, baby, I'm a gangster two. So if you 351 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: come for me and try to tell me, oh, well, 352 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: of course you your net worth increased, you know, the 353 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: stock market's been up for a decade, I'm like, yeah, 354 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: that's the point. The point is that I started, and 355 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: that is what so many people struggle with. And that's 356 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: what I love about your story and mine is that 357 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: those little tiny baby for one case, they were like 358 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: a little seedling, you know, and I put my little 359 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: money in there and it was it's it's beautiful to 360 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: see the grow, but it's also like, yeah, give us 361 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: our give us our flowers for starting something before you. 362 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: But just like that, that that little like seed of 363 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: faith that you had that you're going to grow into 364 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: something larger and the patience and hell's yeah, we can 365 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: celebrate it, you know, a decade later. I love that. 366 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: I love that, I know, and it's such it's so 367 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: frustrating with the bros because they don't want to give 368 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: us our props because we were passive investors. We're not 369 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: stock pickers, right, we're not day trading. And so because 370 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: crypto we can, yeah, we can't, like, you know, sign 371 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: off on some fancy stock that made us a pajillion 372 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: percent return. Somehow, that lessons our accomplishment, which is complete 373 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: bs because at the end of the day, who makes 374 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: money is the person who did it consistently over time, 375 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: patiently kept their money in, let it grow, and didn't 376 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: mess around with it. And this is why women are 377 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: statistically better investors than men now, so because we know 378 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: how to do this. And so the only problem with 379 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: women quote unquote women is that we're not doing it enough. 380 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: That's it. If we just need to invest more, we 381 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: need to participate more. But when we do, we're great investors. 382 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: So when I found out about financial independence and I 383 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 2: started learning about investing, my reaction was anger. To be honest, 384 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: I was really angry. I was angry that I didn't 385 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: know this stuff. I'm like, how is it that I'm 386 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: a professional making six figures, like you said, living in 387 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: New York City, surrounded by stock market information all day long, 388 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: and I don't understand the basics of investing. That's how 389 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: I knew. I was like, Wow, if the information is 390 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: not trickling down to me, it's definitely not trickling down 391 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: to other people. Because all I hear everybody talking about 392 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: is real estate. That's it. You want to build wealth, 393 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: you got to go buy something. And so that's the 394 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: message that I was adhering to, hoarding cash in my 395 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: savings account, chasing your city real estate, never getting anywhere, 396 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't understand how are people building 397 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: their net worth? Like, how am I ever going to 398 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: stop working someday? It seems like it's going to go 399 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: on forever. And so when I found out about it, 400 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: that's why I was it was such a quick buy 401 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: in for me. I mean, obviously I did my research, 402 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: I looked into it, but I was like, this is it, 403 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: this is the way out. And then I just started 404 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: using social media to share my own personal journey, and 405 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: that's when it started growing into something way more. 406 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that decision that you made. I mean you, 407 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: like you said, is it right that you had this 408 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: big chunk of change like one hundred grand that you 409 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: had set aside for what a home like a down payment? 410 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: And you you discovered fire, and what did you decide 411 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: to do with that money instead? 412 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: So I split into three buckets. One was my emergency 413 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: fund because I need to sleep at night. I need 414 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: money in the bank, always in forever. And I tell 415 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: everybody that you do too. And then I sent another 416 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: big chunk to Navviant. Here, Naviant, take your freaking money. 417 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: Please get out of my face. Okay, no, this was 418 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: some also. This was October twenty nineteen, five months before 419 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: the pandemic. Yeah, you know, stock markets at all time highs. 420 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm like, I did my research. I'm 421 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: in it for the long run. Then I took another 422 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars and I put it in a brokerage 423 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: account of Vanguard, five months before the pandemic. So I 424 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: did the scary thing that everybody's scared to do. Oh 425 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: my god, what if I put money in and then 426 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: the market crashes? It? Literally? I did it, and guess 427 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: what that money has recovered? And continued to grow since them. Dude, 428 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: totally fine. The S and P five hundred was at 429 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: twenty nine hundred when I did that, which was all 430 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: time highs. Today it's at forty four hundred. 431 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's fifty K. What's the value today? 432 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have like the exact number on it, 433 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: but think about it. It dropped in value forty percent 434 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: in March, so I was down, Like it went into 435 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: my principle, which is the thing you never want, right, 436 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: So I lost all my growth and then the money, 437 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 2: some of the money that I put in, so it 438 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: was up to like almost sixty K by the time 439 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: the market crashed, so I put in fifty. It was 440 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: up till like sixty So I lost the ten that grew, 441 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: that grew, and then I lost another ten. 442 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: So what was your reaction? How did you stick with it? 443 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: How did you know? Yeah? 444 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's funny because my reaction is actually documented 445 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram because I remember, I'm in the middle of 446 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: launching my business. I'm talking about investing, and I'm literally 447 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: talking everybody else down off a ledge and I'm like, 448 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: this is the moment we've been waiting for. This is 449 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: what I've been telling you guys might happen, and so 450 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: I continue to pay off my student loans, but I 451 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: also continue to invest. And I'm so glad I did that. 452 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: And I did it all throughout twenty twenty. I actually 453 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: poured one hundred thousand dollars into the market in twenty twenty. 454 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so glad I did. So you don't know the 455 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: exact value, I mean, do you not? Typically I try 456 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: to not look at my accounts too too often. I 457 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: try to look at my net worth and that nice 458 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: round number, and you know, that's what I'm kind of 459 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: focused on. But how often are you checking your numbers? 460 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: I think we got a question from someone who was like, 461 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: I've gotten it through Mandy Money, Just how do I 462 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: stop checking my accounts? I'm obsessed with watching the progress. 463 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: What's that relationship been like for you? 464 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: I think in the beginning, that's totally normal. If you're 465 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: brand into investing, of course they're gonna be watching it, right. 466 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: It's something so new, especially if you didn't take a 467 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: lot of time to learn about the history of the 468 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: stock market. You're kind of learning on the go, so 469 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: that's why you're so nervous. But trust me, you will 470 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: get bored with that because life will move on. You're 471 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: gonna get sick of seeing the ups and downs, and 472 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: people will just move on with their lives. So I 473 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: think that's actually a normal reaction. And I'm not gonna 474 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: tell you to not do it, because when you tell 475 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: people not to do something, then they really want to 476 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: do it. So it's fine. But I check my accounts 477 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: every day. But this is my job. Like that's why 478 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: I look at the market every day. I'm telling everybody, Hey, 479 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: my account, for instance today recording today, the market's down 480 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: two percent. My brokerage account just fell eight thousand dollars. 481 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: Like I know these things because I'm also sharing it 482 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: with my audience. I'm telling them, hey, I'm in it 483 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: with you. I'm seeing my account move down. Guess what 484 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: I just did. I just bought more. Like I'm talking 485 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: them through it as I'm experiencing, too, and I think 486 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: that that calms people down. 487 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now that makes a lot of sense. I 488 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: try not to look. I don't even pay attention. It 489 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: was liberating. It's so much more liberating when you feel like, okay, 490 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: I am I've chosen this lifestyle as a passive investor. 491 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: The point of it is it's called passive. Like you 492 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: just float. You know, you're on your little raft and 493 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: you're just floating and you're just enjoying the scenery and 494 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: it's all working for you. It's just having that faith. 495 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, when I look at my phone, Okay, that's 496 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: what I did. I had ignored it for ten years. 497 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm just now aware of it because I'm painfully aware 498 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: of everything about investing. But before that, I ignored it 499 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: for years and guess what, it grew and it did 500 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: its thing. 501 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: So you don't need to be watching it absolutely. Let's 502 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: talk about fire. Do you have a fire number? Is 503 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: there a I know we talked about time earlier in 504 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: the time when you want to be in Portugal, but 505 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: is there more than time? Is there like an actual 506 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: number you want to reach for your net worth or 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: your your portfolio before you know it's time to move. 508 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't necessarily need to hit fire to move. 509 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: I used to think that was the case, and it 510 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: was because I was tied to my nine to five, right, 511 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: So if I was going to stay in my nine 512 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: to five, then I had to hit fire before I 513 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: could quit my job. But I became financial independence sooner 514 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 2: because of my business, so things as changed faster than 515 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: I expected. But as far as financial independence, and I 516 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: like to call it financial dependence, relax early because I 517 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: think retiring just has this connotation that people get allergic 518 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: to it. They hear it, they're like, oh my god, retiring. 519 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: That sounds so done over right, And I'm like, it's 520 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: not that. It's just a moment where now you can 521 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: pause and decide what do you want your life to 522 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: look like? That's what it is. It gives you all 523 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: the freedom to decide. So for me, like I said, 524 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: financial independence relax early, I definitely have a number because 525 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm very goal oriented, so it's important to have a number. 526 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: And so right now that number is one and a 527 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: half million, and that's just for me. But what I 528 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: a new term that I think I've coined. I haven't 529 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: heard anybody else use it is family fire, which it 530 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: means like, is there anybody else, like extended family or 531 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: someone outside of your household that you're also saving and 532 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: investing for which I am, which is my mom. So 533 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: our family fire number is actually two million, right so 534 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: to cover both me and my mom. And this is 535 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: all assuming that I am withdrawing somewhere between like fifty 536 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: to seventy thousand dollars a year to cover both my 537 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: living expences and her living expenses. So that's like where 538 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, I'm directionally going. Obviously, things can change. That 539 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: number can go up, that number can go down, And 540 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: that's the beauty of fires that you're supposed to be 541 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: super flexible. Right, things can change, like the market can change. 542 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: Your plans can change, a lot of people think that 543 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: like you're locked in and then that's it, or that 544 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: you're living this pretty miserable, frugal lifestyle, right, Pinching pennies, 545 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: cutting coupons, not in yourself, Totally not true. I travel, 546 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: I spend money on leggings. I bought a peloton. I. 547 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: You know, the thing is what I've realized is that 548 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: I've learned how to value what I want to spend 549 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: my money on, Like what am I going to do 550 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: to It's like the Marie Condo of spending, Like, you know, 551 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: what is going to bring me the most joy, I'm 552 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: going to double down on those things and I'm going 553 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: to cut out all the junk. And you feel a 554 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: lot more like fulfilled when you do that. 555 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you talk about family fire. I like that 556 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: expression because I think especially that is a point of 557 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: view that isn't typically, you know, spoken about, because the 558 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: people who generally lead conversations about fire are you know, 559 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: white men, white women, white families, and typically they may 560 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: not have to take care of a family or take 561 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: them along with them because their families are fine already. 562 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: But especially for you, you know, you're being an immigrant 563 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: with your with your mom, wanting to take care of 564 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: her and your your siblings as well. Do you feel 565 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: like I want to like phrase this the right way 566 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: because I got this question when I came clean. I 567 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: published a story on CNBC about my net worth and 568 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: how it's grown, and one of my really good friends 569 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: called me up and he's like, aren't you afraid people 570 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: are going to be coming with their hands out, you know, 571 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: trying to get those coins. And my reaction was just 572 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: like no, no, I mean it's not in a way 573 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: where it's I feel obligated to take care of people, 574 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: but it's like that's the point the point of breaking 575 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, generational poverty and generational like lack of knowledge 576 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: of financial, financial finances and the financial markets is to 577 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: help them see what's possible in a way, And I 578 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: wonder there's a flip side though, It's like you'd be 579 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: surprised how much family doesn't want your advice when you 580 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: are like the money person. And so I'm wondering what 581 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: the dynamic is for you with your siblings, with your mom. 582 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel like they they are coming to you 583 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: for advice? Are you trying to like show them the 584 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: way or are you just like, hey, uh, how on 585 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: this fire train? Don't worry about how we're getting there, 586 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: but like come Toasco. 587 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: That's kind of how I did it with my mom, 588 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: you know. She my mom basically was the stereotypical Latina mom, 589 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: where like the man took care of everything, my dad 590 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: took care of all the money on the household. She 591 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: just followed along. She took care of us, you know, 592 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: that was her job. And so she is just now 593 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: learning about money herself because she now has a business 594 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: in Brazil. She has a little pet shop, and so 595 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: she's learning about money herself. And I send my mom 596 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: money every month. She doesn't have to work if she 597 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to, but she likes work. She's the first 598 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: time that she's like independent, so she's stepping into that, 599 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: and I want to be encouraging of that, but I 600 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: also want to make sure that my mom's taken care of. 601 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: And I tell her Mom, I could send you much more, 602 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 2: but I want you to know what the plan is 603 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: so you can see what I'm doing with the money. 604 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: And so I explained to her that I'm saving and 605 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: investing for us, that my plan is for us to 606 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: move to Portugal. What does she think of that I 607 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: would like to buy her a home. She's like, yeah, 608 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: that sounds amazing. 609 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I was down. 610 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: She's down, totally down. Absolutely. So that's with my mom. 611 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: With my sister, it was a little different. It took 612 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: me months to be able to show her the power 613 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: of investing and the stock market and everything. And it's 614 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: funny because I'm like, dude, it's easier for me to 615 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: teach strangers on the internet about this stuff than it 616 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: was with you. And that's the you know how it 617 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: is with family, Right, you're going to approach family, it's 618 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: always going to be there's going to be more skepticism there. 619 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: But the funny thing is that we were both coaching 620 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: each other because my sister's my business coach, and so 621 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: here I am teaching her about money and she's teaching 622 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: me about business, and so we were able to build 623 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: that symbiotic relationship where now she's an investor, she has 624 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: her solo for one K and everything, and she's helped 625 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: me with my business. So it's worked out really well. 626 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: I can't think of a less passive thing than running 627 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: a business. Like maybe we can be passive investors, but 628 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: you can't be a passive There's I don't feel like 629 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: there's a They call it passive income, but it's not 630 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: really fair because you, dude, you're doing all of your 631 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: own content. You you kill it on the reels and 632 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: whatever the tiktoks that you're doing, and it's like that 633 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: takes work the amount of time to create the content 634 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: that ain't passive, you know what I mean? What do 635 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: you feel like you're working now more than ever to 636 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: get to fire and but is it different because you 637 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: you know you're enjoying it more. Tell me what the 638 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: dynamic is now for you and work. 639 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: And I'm very again, I'm very transparent about my journey. 640 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: I am not one of those people who was like, oh, 641 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: I was able to do all of the things when 642 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: only launched my business. You know, I still got my manicures, 643 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: and I still got this, and I still got to 644 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: enjoy my life and balance. You know, No, okay, there 645 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: was no balance. I basically launched my business at the 646 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: height of the pandemic. We were all locked inside. There 647 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: was no balance in any of our lives. I think 648 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: in that time we were all either being overworked, overstressed, overeating, 649 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: over drinking. We were doing all the things to like 650 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: self soothe, right, And so for me, I threw myself 651 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: into my work. I threw myself into my business, and 652 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: so I worked like twelve fourteen hour days, but it 653 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: didn't feel like work because I I was, you know, 654 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: working on something creative for the first time in my life. 655 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: Being an attorney is the opposite of being creative. It's 656 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: very rules based, right, It's very like, this is how 657 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: we do this. And so with my business, I got 658 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: to unlock a whole different side of my brain that 659 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even know was there, and so I was 660 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: completely consumed with it. I absolutely loved it. And there 661 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: is a lot of front loading. When you start a business. 662 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: You are going to do a ton of work in 663 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: the beginning to like rev up, and then eventually if 664 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: you do it right, and you have a good coach, 665 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: which I did. She taught me how to build systems right. 666 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: You got to build systems, and you have to start 667 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: outsourcing things like if you don't start outsourcing things, if 668 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: you think you can do all of the things on 669 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: your own, you are going to burn out and your 670 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: business won't last very long. And I'm like, I want 671 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: this to be a sustainable business. Now. I work like 672 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: ten twelve hours a week, you know, and most of 673 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: that is creating content and just engaging with my audience 674 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: on Instagram, which is stuff that I loved and I 675 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: used to do for free, so now I get to 676 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: do it as part of my business. I am living 677 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: like that stereotype of like do what you love and 678 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: you never feel like you work a day. I always 679 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: thought that would be, but it's. 680 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: True except for all the ramp up. So tell me, 681 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm a baby business owner. I don't know if you 682 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: have followed Brown Ambition, but I launched Launch sounds like 683 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: such an exciting and you know, a spectacular word, but 684 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: I just you know. I posted on Instagram that I 685 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: was setting up my own business in May or June, 686 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: and tips always kind of dropping little business coaching gems. 687 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: But you are I feel like, you know, how are 688 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: you so far ahead? But you're not even that far? 689 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: Like you just you just quit your job in March, 690 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: and I'm just I feel like I'm just kind of 691 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: accepting the fact that I'm a you know, entrepreneur now. 692 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: But tell me more, give me more tips. So, yeah, 693 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: what were the things that what are the things that 694 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: you're outsourcing that you feel like have helped your business 695 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: grow and helped you get to a ten hour work week? 696 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of all, I got a virtual 697 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: assist a virtual assistant. They're in the Philippines. So if 698 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: you're starting out and you want. 699 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: To Philippines, they're amazing. Where do you find them or like, yeah, 700 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: you can. 701 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: Find them on fiver, on upwork. There's a website that's 702 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: like I think it's called Online Assistance dot pH or 703 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: something like that. Virtual Assistant dot pH. But they are amazing. 704 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: Do not sleep on Philippine virtual assistants, and so it's 705 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: a great way to start. Eventually, I will need a 706 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: personal assistant here in the States with me so that 707 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: we can be on the same time zone. But right 708 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 2: now it's all working out fine. 709 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: But basically what is that? What is that VA doing 710 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: that you find helpful? 711 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So they're doing a lot of the stuff in 712 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: the background for me. So things that I used to do, 713 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: like when I go do my monthly class, I'd have 714 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: to email the list. I'd have to let everybody know 715 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: when it's happening, Hey, going live. Now i'd have to 716 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: do a tracking of who's buying when they're buying. I 717 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: have a community that's part of my course, and so 718 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: I need to track who's still part of the community 719 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: and whose community access has expired. They're doing all that tracking. 720 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: They also upload my videos. Whenever I'm done doing my class, 721 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: I have to upload the replay and send that out 722 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: to everybody who attended. I used to do all this 723 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 2: stuff manually, so I'd be done with my class and 724 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: then I would spend another two three hours on my computer, 725 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: like finalizing everything, uploading videos, editing videos to send that out. 726 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: And now I literally just turn off my computer and 727 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: I can go have a drink, you know, and they 728 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 2: take care of everything like that. So that's something major 729 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: that they do. They she manages my community where people's 730 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: submit questions, so she collects all those questions for me. 731 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, it's all like 732 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: in a spreadsheet. I can just go in and like 733 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: answer them. I coach my students two times month, and 734 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: I want to take it to the next level though, 735 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: where I have an assistant also in my inbox, like 736 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: answering my email, scheduling my press calls, talking to people 737 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: about collaborations, Like I'm still doing all of that myself, 738 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 2: managing my email, but that's going to be the next level. 739 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: The one thing that I don't think I'll ever outsource 740 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: is my social media content. Like that's my face. Obviously, 741 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 2: I need to be present. That's the way I connect 742 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: with my audience. I write all my own captions, I 743 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: create all my own social media, but I have hired 744 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: a team to actually like post everything, so I don't 745 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: have to sit there and post things anymore. Like I 746 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: have somebody doing them making sure everything's going through. If 747 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: there's any glitches on Instagram, they take care of it. 748 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: So I create all of the creative but I have 749 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: people doing like the execution part of it. And you think, like, 750 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 2: what's the big deal, Like posting something on Instagram takes 751 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: two minutes. It doesn't. It takes time. 752 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: You who are you telling and like TikTok too. Are 753 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: you on TikTok? Are you TikTok? Are you the realest girl? 754 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: No? I have two hundred thousand followers on TikTok. 755 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh shit, Okay, Yes, I feel like I see most 756 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: of your content ig on ig because TikTok knows me 757 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: too well and all they do is serve me. Plant content, 758 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: plants and TLC doctor pimple popper content. 759 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: Love it? 760 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: Yes, well, I love that you're doing your own thing. 761 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's all about what you enjoy doing right, 762 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's doing the work that you enjoy 763 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: at the parts of your job that you enjoy doing 764 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: that and doing it unapologetically because I've heard, well, you've 765 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: got to outsource your social and you've got to do this, 766 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: and you've got to you know, outsource writing, you know, 767 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: your articles. I would never have someone ghostwrite for me. 768 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: I just I have done it, and I've I've had 769 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: writers who or have people who have things ghost written. 770 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't even I'm trying. I have 771 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: an admin she tried to write an email, and even 772 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh no, no, no, this is how 773 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: I would say it, Like I have a particular way 774 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: of talking and speaking, and I'm like, maybe this isn't 775 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: something I can outsource, but so I appreciate that it's 776 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: about you know, but there's some things that I at 777 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: least can identify that I don't you know, that don't 778 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: need them magic Mandy touch or the magic flair you know, 779 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: or it's not even magic, just you know that personality, 780 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: which at the end of the day, is how you're 781 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: connecting to your community, right it's through they come to 782 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: see you specifically talking about the topic that you're talking 783 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: and using your point of view. How do you feel like, 784 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you're such a strong I mean you're a 785 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,959 Speaker 1: strong woman with a strong point of view. I feel 786 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: like it took me even longer to get to a 787 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: place because my backgrounds in journalism. I was in the 788 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: background interviewing the Delhians and the Tiffany's and learning a ton. 789 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until the last year where I kind 790 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: of stood up and said, you know, I have a 791 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: point of view. I have thoughts, I. 792 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: Have I have ideas. 793 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: I do have opinions and strong ones at that about 794 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: how you know you manage your finances in your career 795 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: and all of that, Where do you think that confidence 796 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: came from for you? Because I admire it a lot, 797 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 798 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 2: I think I've always I've been very focused in my life. 799 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: I know, you don't put yourself through law school by 800 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 2: yourself and pay off one hundred thousand dollars student loans 801 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: when you don't have like a ton of focus. So 802 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: I've always been a very focused person in my life. 803 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: But that being said, I always credit my sister with 804 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 2: helping me find my voice. Because when I first started 805 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 2: my business, I'm like, should I talk about paying off debt? 806 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: Should I talk about building credit? Should I talk about investing? 807 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: I was trying to go all different directions. She's like, 808 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: you can't be something for everyone. She's like, no one's 809 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 2: going to listen to you if you try to serve 810 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: too many people, who can you serve the best? And 811 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: what are you going to enjoy the most? And let's 812 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: double down on that. And so when I realized that, yes, 813 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 2: payingoff debt is super important, managing money is super important. 814 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: But the thing that I was feeling the most passionate 815 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: and fired up about, no pun intended, was financially the 816 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: penans right. It was the journey that I myself was 817 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: personally going on and I'm like, gosh, I really want 818 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: to bring people with me. I don't want to, you know, 819 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: be alone in this journey. I always I also felt 820 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 2: kind of alone when I started, and so it was, 821 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, from a selfish blaze of like not wanting 822 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: to be by myself and wanting to share. And it's 823 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: what I was educating and consuming at the moment. I 824 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 2: was just reading everything I could touch about this subject. 825 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: And so my sister, you know, was like, well, let's 826 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 2: do that. Let's focus on financial independence, let's focus on investing. 827 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: This is what you're you know, it seems to be 828 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 2: like your passion project, and let's grow from there. And 829 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: so having that direction helped to clear out a lot 830 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: of noise, and I didn't waste a lot of time, 831 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 2: because I think with the new entrepreneurs, unfortunately, finding your 832 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: voice is something where a lot of your like that 833 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: initial rev up, that initial oh my god, I'm so motivated, 834 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm feeling so passionate. You can waste a lot of 835 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 2: that good energy just finding your niche. And so if 836 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: you can kind of clear through that pretty quickly and 837 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 2: just get to the point where you're like launching your offer, like, 838 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: what is it that you're going to sell? Just sell it. 839 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 2: You will save a lot of headaches, right, And what 840 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: I always tell people is like, don't worry about the branding. 841 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what your colors are, It doesn't matter 842 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: what kind of website you have. I did not just 843 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: launch a website. I launched my website two months ago. 844 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: So I hit a million dollars in revenue in my 845 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: business without a website. 846 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, you don't need a website. 847 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: So you need a landing page to sell your product, 848 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: that's it. 849 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's talk about that product. Because so you've learned, 850 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: you've learned the stock market. What is it that? So 851 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: you have a course, you have a community what? 852 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: So? 853 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell the BA audience where they can find your 854 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: content and what they can expect when they do. 855 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: Sure. So I launched slate a stock market a year ago. 856 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: Actually it was exactly September a year ago, and I 857 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: reached her class. I think you, I've taught the class 858 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: live to ten people, and I was ecstatic because I'm like, 859 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't believe ten people showed up 860 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: for this amazing. And so I took all of that 861 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: content that I created for that class. And then I 862 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 2: message was like, well, let's turn this into a course. 863 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: You know, like you did it, you did all the 864 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: heavy lifting, you taught it, you created it. Let's turn 865 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: it into a course. And so I, you know, packaged 866 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: it in a in a digital way where people can 867 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: like purchase it altogether. And so now it's a digital 868 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: course that you can purchase, you can watch at your 869 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: own pace, and coupled with access to me with you know, 870 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 2: group coaching. So I go live twice a month and 871 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: I answer questions and I guide people through the material. 872 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 2: And so that combination of those two things is basically 873 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, the product, and that's what I've been selling. 874 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 2: That's the only offer I have. I have no other products. 875 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: This is it. 876 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: Okay, There's no Delian t shirt, no Deli tote bag. 877 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 2: Nope, there's nothing else. So that's another misconception. People are like, oh, 878 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: I need multiple products, you know, to have a successful business. 879 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: Let me do this, let me do that. I barely 880 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: do sponsored content. I don't even like doing sponsored ads, 881 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: all right, I don't like it. I'm very picky with it. 882 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 2: I've done maybe six or seven collaborations total, in the 883 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: entire time that I've been in business. So for me, 884 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm very picky about what I you know, who I 885 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 2: collaborate with, and but that's it. The ninety five percent 886 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 2: of the money that I've made in my business has 887 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: come from my course. The other five percent has come 888 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: from a few sponsorships and from speak engagements. I do 889 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 2: do workshops, like corporate workshops, so I've done one for Google. 890 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 2: I've done one for Hubble, so I do do that 891 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 2: as well, but the bulk of it has come from 892 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: this course. 893 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: That's exciting. So I mean, how do you keep that 894 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: fresh and engaging for yourself? Like? Do you It's only 895 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: been a year. And again I'm not trying, Like you know, 896 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I have one baby and already people, 897 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm he's about to turn two. And just this morning, 898 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm my mom was calling and she's like, no, no, 899 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: it's never that direct. It's always like today. It was 900 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: today it was I don't know, man, how are you 901 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: going to top this kid? I'm like, what do you mean? 902 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: How am I going to top? 903 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 2: End? 904 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: Well? When you know it's going to be a tough 905 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: act to follow when you have the next I'm like Bobe, 906 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, just like I can't. I'm on the 907 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: way at the grocery store. I don't want to talk 908 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: about it right. 909 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: Now, disconnected. 910 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: Sorry, But when you think about you're so passionate and 911 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: especially about educating Latinas in this community, what do you 912 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: think is next? Is there a next level? Is there 913 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: something else that you want people to learn about that 914 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: you're equally passionate about. 915 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: I mean, now that I have launched the business from 916 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: beginning to end, right, I feel like the next progression 917 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: is helping people to understand social media better because I 918 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 2: absolutely love it, and I'm now noticing that people do 919 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: struggle with creating content and creating social media and understanding, 920 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, how to create engaging content. For me, it's 921 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: something that comes really natural to me. Again, I think 922 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 2: we tend to downplay our gifts because because something comes 923 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 2: naturally to you doesn't mean that it doesn't have value 924 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,959 Speaker 2: of you teaching it to someone else. And so that's 925 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: something that I've done my whole life, is like, oh 926 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 2: I understand this, so everybody else must too, and you 927 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: just assume, right. So I'm learning to like not do that. 928 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 2: But I think learning, you know, teaching people how to 929 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 2: grow on Instagram, on TikTok and and launch their own businesses. 930 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 2: I think that will probably be the next progression because 931 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: I get business questions all the time and so I 932 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: love talking about that just as much as investing, So 933 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: that would probably be the next product, but not for 934 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 2: a while. I'm like, I just feel like with investing, 935 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: it's incredible to me that people try to do so 936 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 2: much when it comes to the personal finance base because 937 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, how I learned something new about investing every day, 938 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: So you know when people are like, oh, why don't 939 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: you branch out into this? Why didn't you branch out 940 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: into this? And I'm like, I feel like I am deeply, 941 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: you know, involved in investing because it's like there's constantly 942 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 2: new laws coming out, new regulations, just like just like 943 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 2: employment law. When I was an employment attorney, I'm like, 944 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine doing any other kind of law because 945 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 2: there's constantly new caselow coming out and keeping things fresh. 946 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: And that's how investing is. I mean, Biden is about 947 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: to pass a ton of new laws that's gonna change 948 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 2: the game. So I feel like that keeps things really 949 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 2: fresh and interesting. 950 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and tax codes too. I've never cared so much 951 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: about the tax code until so much. Yes, God, I 952 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: wish I could keep talking to you and asking you 953 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: a many questions, But I do want to get to 954 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: y'all's questions. You know, you got to tune in for 955 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: our B a Q and A show on Fridays. But 956 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: let me let me close with this. I mean, because 957 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: I think just from the outside looking at obviously, it 958 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: seems like Delianne, you just got here and you're already 959 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: killing the game. And you know, I'm learning a lot 960 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: just from watching you, and I'm just loving it because 961 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: it feels like there's more people at the cookout now 962 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 1: it's just as a party, you know what I mean, 963 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: Like there's just more voices, and I just I really 964 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: relate to your content as well. What makes you proudest 965 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: about your platform and the work that you're doing now 966 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: thinking about where you've come from and where you are now, 967 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what brings you the most story And you're like, yeah, 968 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: I did the damn thing. 969 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am just so proud that I'm opening the 970 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: door for so many people to think about money in 971 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: a different way. I've been approached by so many people 972 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 2: saying you know, I've heard other people talk about this, 973 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 2: talk about investing in the stock market, but I didn't 974 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 2: trust them, and I trust you, and I take that 975 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 2: really seriously. I'm like, wow, like having somebody's trust. I 976 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 2: don't take that lightly, you know. And so I don't 977 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 2: know if that's from me being an attorney or it's 978 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 2: just you know, hopefully I could say it's part of 979 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 2: my character and my integrity, but I take that really seriously. 980 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: I think that I'm out there representing our community and 981 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: I try to do it, you know, with nobility and 982 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: with honesty, and I always try to tell my audience 983 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: like I'm trying to be as transparent as possible. Probably 984 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: a little too much. My mom's like, do you need 985 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 2: to be as transparent? Yeah, some people are a little concerned. 986 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 2: But I'm really proud of the movement that I'm seeing 987 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 2: in the Latino community because I think for a long 988 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: time we have been fearful of the financial industry with 989 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: cause like we have been we have been targeted, we 990 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 2: have been abused, we have been neglected by the financial community, 991 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: and so I feel like I'm trying to bridge some 992 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 2: of that gap, and I think I'm you know, making 993 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: my own little dent in a way. And so whenever 994 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 2: I do meet a new Latino Latina who was like, dude, 995 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: I started investing because of you. Thank you so much 996 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: for everything that you did. That is that's a huge, 997 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 2: huge compliment, and I am honored that anybody is using 998 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: my content to change their life. It's amazing. 999 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: I love that I lied, though, I have another question. 1000 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about what an extraordinary story you 1001 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: have and the fact that you got citizenship just how 1002 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: many years ago? Four or five years ago. 1003 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I became a citizen in twenty fifteen, so right 1004 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 2: before the presidential So the Trump election was my first time. 1005 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, what's your relationship? I'm still figuring 1006 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: out and I you know, I feel like Michelle Obama, 1007 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: she got into some hot water. I'm not at all 1008 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama's level. But whenever anybody tries to be a 1009 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: tiny bit critical of our country, I feel like people 1010 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: get really upset about it. But you know what, Hey, 1011 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: you like your family. I feel like the country is 1012 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: my family, so I can be a little critical. You know, 1013 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving and you come over and it's like, oh, 1014 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: it is your name? Wait, like you can say that, 1015 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: But what is your relationship like with this country now? 1016 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean you you came here undocumented at eight years old, 1017 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: You're from Brazil. You you kill yourself in school to become 1018 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: an attorney. You get saddled with six figure debt, and 1019 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: by the way, got no financial aid because you weren't 1020 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, a citizen. You you pay that debt off. 1021 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: Now you're teaching people to be stock market investors and 1022 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: empowering women in the Latin X community. How do you 1023 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: feel about this country? And you're about to leave us 1024 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, well, damn, we're losing a 1025 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: good one. But how has that changed? How has your 1026 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: relationship changed with America? 1027 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's always going to be complex, right, 1028 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: And I think the most beautiful thing about where we 1029 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: live is the fact that just because I'm proud to 1030 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: be here and I fought really hard to become an 1031 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: American citizen and I'm so glad i am, that doesn't 1032 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 2: mean that I don't have a right to criticize my 1033 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 2: country like I have every right and I do. You know, 1034 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 2: I tell people all the time that capitalism is a 1035 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 2: problematic system, right, But we can't just opt out of it. 1036 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 2: So this idea of like, oh, capitalism, you know, is 1037 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 2: the core of everything. It's the reason why we're in 1038 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 2: the trouble that we are. So you shouldn't invest, you 1039 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: shouldn't put your money in these companies because that's part 1040 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: of the problem. And I'm like, that's not going to 1041 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: solve the problem. Like taking yourself out of the room, 1042 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: giving up your seat at the table is not going 1043 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 2: to all of the problem. If anything, I want more 1044 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 2: seats at the table. I want more voices at the 1045 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,479 Speaker 2: table so that we can change the conversation. So that's 1046 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 2: how I see it. I see it as like money 1047 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: is going to give us a voice, because that is 1048 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: what is the loudest in this country, is money, And 1049 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: it's going to give us an opportunity to like say 1050 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 2: what's important to us, right, like, especially for Latinos, like 1051 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 2: we are such a force in this country, so we 1052 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: have to come together and show our voice. So for me, yeah, 1053 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 2: it's always going to be a complicated relationship with America, 1054 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 2: especially you know, going through the immigration process like I did. 1055 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 2: But I will never deny that my life is one 1056 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 2: hundred times better living here than it would have it 1057 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 2: would have been if I had stayed in Brazil for sure. 1058 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 2: If I had been in Brazil, I think, yeah, my 1059 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 2: life would have been completely different. I probably would have 1060 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: like three or four kids by now. This is literally 1061 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 2: the life that my cousins are living. They all have 1062 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: three or four kids, their stay at home moms. Not 1063 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: if there's anything wrong with that life, but it wasn't 1064 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 2: the life that I feel like I was, you know, 1065 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 2: destined to live. It would have just been the life 1066 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 2: that you live because of the situation that you're in, 1067 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 2: Like you, I would have been stripped of any other 1068 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: choices basically, So I'll never deny the opportunities that I've 1069 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: been given here. But that doesn't mean that there aren't 1070 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: points valid points to criticize. 1071 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you even deserve more opportunities 1072 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: to criticize because like I was just born here. I 1073 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: ended to try that hard, you know what I mean, 1074 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: Like you had to work for it. So yeah, can 1075 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: we can we hear what Delianne has to say about 1076 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: this country, you know what I mean? So we didn't 1077 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: take a quick break, and then we're going to come 1078 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: back and do one of my favorite segments, Brown Boost, 1079 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: Brown Break. Are you ready? I'm so ready, all right, 1080 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, well a quick break. We'll 1081 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: be right back with the beautiful and delightful Delianne Bados. 1082 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: We are back, all right, Delianne. I'm putting you in 1083 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 1: the hot seat. You have some big budgeties to shoes 1084 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: to fill. What are you going to do? Are you 1085 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna boost or are you going to break? 1086 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 2: Mmmm? So I'm going to do both because. 1087 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: I'll allow it. 1088 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm going to boost this meal prep company 1089 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 2: that I've been using because I needed to take a 1090 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 2: break from. 1091 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: Cooking, all right, prepper, Okay, okay. 1092 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 2: Cooking was just going it's it was taking over my life, Mandy. 1093 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it. I'm like, I, especially when 1094 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,240 Speaker 2: you're launching a business, You're gonna end up eating takeout 1095 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: every single day, And I'm like, Okay, something needs to stop. 1096 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: So if I searched far and wide for a company 1097 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 2: that actually delivers like fresh food to my door, they 1098 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 2: do it twice a week. It's not like frozen anything 1099 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 2: like that. It's not I'm not going to say the 1100 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: name of any other companies, but you. 1101 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, it's not for us to think 1102 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: of them. 1103 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: It's fresh delivered to my door. It's local to San Diego. 1104 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's the trick. When you're gonna find 1105 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 2: a company that's going to deliver food to your door, 1106 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: it has to be local. It can't be like shipped 1107 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 2: through the mail. So they deliver it fresh twice a week. 1108 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 2: It's the it's woman owned. Can I say the name 1109 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 2: of the. 1110 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: Company, absolutely, yeah, Okay, I'm waiting. 1111 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay, good. The name of the company's Mikayla's. So if 1112 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 2: you're in San Diego, highly recommend. And it's been amazing 1113 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 2: And now I have all this free time to do 1114 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,919 Speaker 2: all the other things that I do, like making more tiktoks. 1115 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 1: Yes, the world needs more tiktoks. Okay, please don't part 1116 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: for yourself. Clear, that's awesome. I've tried, yes, so no, 1117 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: I love that. I think I've tried all of the 1118 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: main I'm going off my microphone. Sorry, Dennis, I'm back. 1119 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm back in the middle. Yeah, I think I've tried 1120 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: all of the same meal kit meal kit things, but 1121 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: especially the ones that come delivered. When I was on 1122 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: maternity leave, it was a it was a lifesaver just 1123 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: to have something I didn't have to think about. But 1124 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: just putting nutrients in my body. But like the taste 1125 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: soul begin to set, like taste the same, and that's 1126 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: that's awesome. So Mikayla's and it's local to San Diego, 1127 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: so we'll put a link to that in our show 1128 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: notes and shouts out to a woman a business. Okay, 1129 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: so that's your boost. You said you got a break. 1130 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: What's it gonna be? 1131 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, that was the break though. The break was I'm 1132 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 2: not cooking. 1133 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: So okay, we're taking a break from cooking. Okay, gotcha. 1134 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: And the boost was Mikayla's. I see what you did there. 1135 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: That counts, that counts. It's your first time. I would 1136 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: call that a full boost because it was all positive. 1137 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: But I feel you, I feel you. We missed the break, 1138 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, when you had your breakdown from trying to 1139 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: cook and do your tiktoks at the same time. But 1140 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: it works, it works, it works. I'm going to do 1141 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: a boost too, because I'm feeling pretty optimistic today. I 1142 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: don't have regular TV, so I don't watch primetime television anymore, 1143 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't watch the Emmys, but thank goodness for 1144 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: IG because I was able to watch the incomparable Debbie 1145 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: Allen's acceptance speech. So, Debbie Allen, are you familiar with 1146 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: her or her work? If you're a Graz's Anatomy fan, 1147 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, stand from the beginning. That is 1148 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: where I became familiar with her as as Catherine, doctor Catherine. Wait, 1149 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: why I'm Avery on Gray's Anatomy. But she is so 1150 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: much more than an actress. Debbie Allen is iconic as 1151 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: a dancers, as someone who's created opportunities for black and 1152 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,439 Speaker 1: brown especially youth to become to have a to get 1153 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: a career in dance and to find their way. And 1154 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: she's a director and amazing, amazing, and she won the 1155 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: Spectacular Award at the Emmys, the Governor's Award or something miraculous. 1156 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: But her speech was just so powerful, And I encourage 1157 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: anyone who's listening right now to go find Debbie Allen's 1158 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: speech because to see, just see a black woman who 1159 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: has been doing the work for decades get her flowers. 1160 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't get her flowers while she's still here, you 1161 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yes, I just feel like it 1162 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: doesn't happen enough. And her speech was at the very 1163 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: end she goes, you know, I want people to hear 1164 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: this speech from Texas women to hear young women to 1165 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: hear this speech from Texas all the way to Afghanistan 1166 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: and be inspired. And I just love her so much, so, 1167 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: shouts out to Debbie Allen. 1168 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: I usually don't watch a word show, but I'm like, 1169 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: now I'm gonna have to look that up because that 1170 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 2: sounds like it was worthy of watching. You know. 1171 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: I like to just look at the highlights, So what 1172 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: was the best speech? Who looked crazy? You know VMA's 1173 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: or this. I'm just now finishing the VMA's performances, and 1174 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: I know most of the performances this year. I feel 1175 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: like I'm catching up with the youth, and I. 1176 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: Feel like I'm not. And I'm on TikTok and I'm like, 1177 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't know any of these musics, but I use 1178 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: them because they're trending. They're like, oh you know the song. 1179 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it's trending. But I did catch like 1180 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 2: the met Gala, Like that's always fun to see what 1181 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 2: nobody's wearing. So I did catch that. And I even 1182 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 2: made a meme of Kim Kardashian because everybody was. 1183 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 1: Meing that's where I saw it. Yes, listen, we could 1184 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 1: spend an entire day about like, what did you say 1185 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: her outfit was like the debt coming up the stairs 1186 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: to get you or something like that. 1187 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 2: I did a few. I was like, like, her sister 1188 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: was Friday, and then Kim was Sunday Scaries. And then 1189 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 2: the other one I did was her sister was leaving 1190 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Corporate America, and then Kim was health insurance. 1191 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: Because oh yes, can we wait a second, we didn't 1192 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: talk about that. What do you do for health insurance? Yeah? 1193 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 2: I paid seven hundred dollars a month. 1194 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: For Cobra Cobra Okay, yeah, so I could. 1195 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Have gone in the marketplace and gotten something cheaper. But again, 1196 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 2: it was one of those things where I did a 1197 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: cost benefit analysis of like how much do I want 1198 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 2: to aggravate myself shopping for health insurance so that I 1199 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 2: could potentially maybe save two hundred dollars a month, which, 1200 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not denying that two hundred dollars 1201 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: a month is a lot of money, but for me personally, 1202 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, is it worth it for me? And so 1203 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 2: I made the decision to keep the health insurance that 1204 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I had. Again, I'm not planning to stay here forever. 1205 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 2: How much longer the country, so by the time my 1206 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Cobra runs out, hopefully I won't be here and I'll 1207 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 2: be on that sweet sweet Portugal insurance that is only 1208 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a month. Thank you, amen, So I 1209 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 2: am waiting for that. 1210 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up. People think solo 1211 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: preneur life is so sexy, and it's like, are you 1212 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: trying to have healthcare when you need it? Yeah, like 1213 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially now of all time. 1214 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: So thanks for sharing that. Okay, this has been amazing, Delian. 1215 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for saving my as you say, 1216 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: my kulo and us. Thank you because Tiffany, Tiffany is 1217 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: off on the west I think she's on your side 1218 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: of town. She's on the West coast doing something fabulous 1219 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: in California. So thank you so much. I'm just loving. 1220 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you're doing. It's so fun 1221 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: to watch you sore and it's so it's just nice 1222 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: to meet you and put a put a voice to 1223 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the face and the name that I see so much. 1224 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. 1225 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. This is an absolute honor. 1226 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 2: I love the show. I'm obsessed, and congratulations on launching 1227 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 2: your business too. 1228 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. You know I'm doing it. All you gotta 1229 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: do is put it up on Instagram apparently in your 1230 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: business owner done. But it's amazing. All right, Well, thank 1231 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: y'all for listening. Stick around Delian because we're going to 1232 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: take some questions for Friday's be A, Q and A. 1233 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: But for those of you who don't follow Delian the 1234 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Money Coach, you have got to follow her. Check the 1235 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: show notes. We'll have all of her socials there. Find 1236 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: out how you can slay the stock market as well 1237 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: at her website, so definitely scroll on down to the 1238 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: show notes and get all of those links