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Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts now, what's up everyone around the world.

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Speaker 1: We are so grateful to be in your ears today

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Speaker 1: as the Motivational podcast Radio Lab. George, how the hell

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Speaker 1: are you? What's up? Everybody? This is George here joining

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Speaker 1: my friend Sam. Sam. You know, I know really well today.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm doing so amazing because I'm remembering that

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Speaker 1: today is the start of the rest of my life. Yes, Queen,

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Speaker 1: and I was actually and I'm really happy you brought

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Speaker 1: it up because I was going to be my first

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Speaker 1: point to And the sun is shining and Trump is

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Speaker 1: out of office, so that Cheeto House of office and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing stopping us from living our dreams. Every day

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Speaker 1: I wake up and I say, how can I give

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Speaker 1: of who I am to be my authentic self and

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Speaker 1: therefore flourish in this beautiful world that we live in?

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Speaker 1: Just f y I um for new listeners, this is

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Speaker 1: a joke. We're not like this. We're actually really cool.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of alternative. We we have a tasteful amount

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Speaker 1: of cynicism and a tasteful amount of optism. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of the perfect balance. So like what we were doing

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Speaker 1: have that balance, and that way, we are centrists in

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Speaker 1: the sense that we kind of you know, we believe

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Speaker 1: in a little bit of everything and stand for nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And in the sense that we stand Joe Biden till

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Speaker 1: the day we fucking die. Yeah, in the more literal

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Speaker 1: sense that we love centrist politicians like that. In the

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Speaker 1: figurative sense, it means we have like a balance in

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Speaker 1: our personalities and lives. In the literal sense, it does

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Speaker 1: mean we are centrists politically. We are wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: the speaking we actually got to something. Okay, and not

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Speaker 1: to be like Twitter round up again, but there was

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Speaker 1: a gay guy on Twitter who's running for office. You

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Speaker 1: were going to do this, This has to be talked about, Okay, Fine,

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Speaker 1: he posted like these tiktoks that are like so cringe

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Speaker 1: e and he's like, yeah, if you're giving your vote

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Speaker 1: Like and uh, you posted on someone posting it that

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Speaker 1: his name is Alex Walker. He's running for office in

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Speaker 1: Colorado to n see Lauren Bobert, who I will be

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Speaker 1: voter registration moved to Colorado and yes, vote for Lauren Boberg. Well,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, regardless of what my politics are, it

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. Sure, like there should they should,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually constantly stocked at how how reactive you are

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Speaker 1: about that in something different in the New York Times,

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00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: like to be to read about that a week later

427
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: in the New York Times, pure bliss. I can't imagine

428
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: where people are going wild on Twitter. We're going fusing wild.

429
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: Didn't about it? There was Yeah, there was a lot

430
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: of really, um, I don't even know what adjective to

431
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: you is because so many are coming to mind just

432
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: insane discourse, particularly from Judd Apataw. I don't know if

433
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: you saw that. He's been like on a weird one

434
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: in general. Yeah, he is losing it. Because he had

435
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: the slap tweet that was like like he could have died. Yes,

436
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: it was like, what are you talking about? He tweeted

437
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: he could have Chris Rock could have died and then

438
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: deleted it within a couple of hours and then never

439
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: addressed it. No problem. Did he tweet about Louis winning?

440
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he did, but we

441
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: really I would love him. I would actually love to

442
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: know it's take if he wants to call in We're

443
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: a veil that talk about nihilism that happening. I was

444
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: just like, oh wow, yeah, nothing, nothing has ever mattered,

445
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: like truly, it's all fake. Yeah, it's crazy that you know,

446
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the Grammys are so dignified and they

447
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: made that one mistake. No, that's the stupidest award. He

448
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: really is the stupidest award. I still want one. I

449
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: want to know if I think if we're if I'm

450
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: full in on nihilism, it means I want to eat

451
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: good and I want to travel the world. Here's what

452
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: I say about the Grammys. I would say the value

453
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: of a Grammy is to fill out an egot like

454
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: that is the point, because on its own it means nothing.

455
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Like an oscar does still mean something in my mind,

456
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: maybe you know, I say, like it's because of my

457
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: own taste whatever. An Oscar still means something to me.

458
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: A Tony still means something, like I think like that

459
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: is a big honor. A Grammy means nothing, but you

460
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: need one that you got and that's what's important. Sam,

461
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: you're striking your ad. I'm just like, can't it just

462
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: be like an eto and it's a no, come on

463
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: and no to that and Ote? I think all these

464
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: could be incredible. It's right there, Peter People's Choice Award. Yeah. Um,

465
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of want to get into the

466
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: topic because we already mentioned Dune and I'm like, you know,

467
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm eager really to to hear some to hear some

468
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: takes from our esteemed guest, Rachel. Would you like to

469
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: introduce the topic, what it is and why you brought

470
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: it to us, and potentially why you think it's straight? Please? Yes,

471
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: would be an honor. Today's topic is none other than

472
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Timote shallow me Um. I brought it in because I'm

473
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: absolutely obsessed with him. It's my He's my north star,

474
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: my guiding light. You can't see very well, but my

475
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: room is adorned with him. Oh, I wish this were

476
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: a visual I wish this was a visual album. I

477
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: could show you everything. But you know, he is, for

478
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: whatever it's worth, straight the only dates kind of like

479
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: extremely thin models, and he's kind of a funck boy

480
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he just kind of embodies

481
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: like straight culture that is kind of queer baiting or

482
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: like queer adjacent in a way that is just not

483
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: fair at this point. And yeah, I guess that's where

484
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: we can start. Yeah, I guess I'll start just defining

485
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: the terms. His name actually has pronounced timote timote if

486
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: you're in France, George, I'm sure you heard. Yeah. In France,

487
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: everyone was always saying um timote. So it's like they're

488
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: they're really they're really psyched to say one of their own.

489
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Uh get that kind of success. Yeah, I think I

490
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: mean he you know, he is a generous soul and

491
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: sort of lets people call them whatever they want. Well,

492
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, he would by timmy like in his daily life. Yes,

493
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: and that's technically what I call him. By the way,

494
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm appealing to the masses. I want everyone to know

495
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: how to say his name. But yeah, so he's a

496
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: he's sort of a classic queer baiter, and I guess,

497
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: like it does throw me off that he is fully straight,

498
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Like part of me is like, well, no, he's not

499
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: fully he's not full No, he's straight, but he's fully straight.

500
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: He's could not be more straight to me. You know, Rachel,

501
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned the concept of fairness, and I do think

502
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: that's like there is a sense of injustice I feel

503
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: with someone like Timota, because here's what it is. There's

504
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: certain people how do I put this, Like, of course,

505
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: in American culture, the ideal is some version of like

506
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the Abercrombie model, like you know, kind of like white

507
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: muscular guy named Chase or something. But then there are

508
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: people like Timota, and it's like in their review, like

509
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Timida can be like skinny and gay looking, but be

510
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: even more desirable than the Chad in his grade. Yes,

511
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: and that kind of innate quality is a root of

512
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: so much injustice in the rest of the country. It's

513
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: like when the class clowns somehow is more popular than

514
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: the other boys, or like when the like weirdo somehow

515
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: you know is able to like it. It is actually

516
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: more toxic than toxic masculinity itself. Completely agree I complete, Well,

517
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting, just sort of piggy backing off that.

518
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: So I knew him peripherally in high school because he

519
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: went to I know, I mean, I have I could

520
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: talk about I'm going to write a book about this.

521
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: This is I'm obsessed. But I went to or so

522
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of his school plays and I

523
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: didn't know that I was gay, etcetera. And I would

524
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: see him and Ansel al Gore. They were often in

525
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: the same play as like competing leads, and I was

526
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: like obsessed with Ansel al Gore, who was this kind

527
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: of like more Abercrombie muscular thing. But everyone was like, no,

528
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: it's Timmy, It's Timmy, It's Timmy, and then it was Timmy.

529
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: And I think that just sort of illustrates your point. Yes, well,

530
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: because he has I'm sorry, he has an IT factor.

531
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I know, believe me. I know I want to get

532
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: surgery to who looked like him? And I want to

533
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: know more about this obsession. What, like where does it

534
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: stem from? Is it like attraction? Is it like anger?

535
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Is it like which which is it? I think it

536
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: runs the gamut of every possible emotion and desire. I

537
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: would say I hated him. I was like, when Called

538
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Me by Her Name came out, I was like, this

539
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: is offensive, Like these are two straight men playing gay

540
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: men and they're rich and they don't have any worries,

541
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: and oh my god, this is heinous. And then during

542
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: the pandemic I watched it and I was completely taken

543
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: by him. I thought, you know, the way he's kissing

544
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: Army Hammer, that's how my first like lesbian kiss was.

545
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you can like feel he

546
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: is a good actor. It's good at what he does.

547
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: He's a good actor or good actor. And you know what,

548
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I'll say something else he has ranged Yes, like his

549
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: him in you know Ladybird is so different than him.

550
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: And call Me by your Name. I mean, I know

551
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I've seen every single thing he's ever done many times.

552
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: I actually for my birthday a couple of years ago,

553
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: my friend bought me like call Me by your Name,

554
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: but with commentary. So now when I show my people

555
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: who haven't seen Call Me by your Name, I show

556
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: them like the regular movie and I give the commentary.

557
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, like this part was improvised. However,

558
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm like addicted. I don't get it, or I do

559
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: get it. I want to be him. I want to

560
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: peg him. I don't want to be penetrated by him.

561
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: I want to peg him, and I want to be

562
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: his friend. And I want him to think that he

563
00:33:54,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: needs me. Any questions, Yeah, no, literally not sense. Yeah,

564
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like, Okay, where do I go

565
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: from here? And what do you think about him? Sam,

566
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: because he does not He's someone who I feel like

567
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: would not register as attractive to you. No, but he's

568
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: like that type where he is just like inherently beautiful,

569
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't want to have sex with

570
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: him at all, but I like do want to see him.

571
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I want to see him on screens, and I want

572
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: to see him in fun outfits and he's a little

573
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: doll and I want to see him dressed up. Yeah,

574
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: there's something about how he makes you feel weak. He

575
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: also does make me feel ugly. Look at him, and

576
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I feel ugly, and I'm like, this is not I'm

577
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: not jealous of you, timoth Ay, And yet now suddenly

578
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm seeing you with your suit jacket and no shirt

579
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: and I say, I don't look like that. That's not fair. Well,

580
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: let me say this. He is dangerously sort of putting

581
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: his toes into looking like a lesbian. And this is

582
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: where I am getting pissed at him. The suit jacket

583
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: with no shirt, that's like, I see a lesbian. Excuse

584
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: me getting emotional wearing wearing that. You know, I don't know.

585
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm just like, stop dressing like a lesbian. Like, that's

586
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: not fair. You look the way that like I want

587
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: to look, but I can't look that way without getting like,

588
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, body changing surgery. In my opinion, it's just

589
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: not right. It's interesting that you say he's that he's

590
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: dressing like a lesbian, because for so long it was

591
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: that he was dressing that he was queer baiting, as

592
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, dressing like a game man. I mean I

593
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: remember very distinctly him wearing a harness on a red

594
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: carpet for instance. That was very like gay gay leather culture. Yes,

595
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: I think he's transitioning into a soft dike. Yeah, he's

596
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: essentially appropriating every letter of the lgbt Q acronym. Done.

597
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, George, how do you feel about him? I

598
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: kind of I I I do think he of all

599
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: those boys that people react to, he is the only

600
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: one that does make me feel anything like I see

601
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: Harry Styles and I don't. I'm like, the music is

602
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: so boring. I'm sorry. Sorry, no offense to to all

603
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: the to all the Harry Styles heads out there, but

604
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm like Jesus Christ, like totally. You know, I get

605
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: one of those Swedish writers that Rihanna works with, and

606
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: let's do something. But I'm not. I'm not gonna. I'm

607
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: not gonna like listen to your like weird like Bob

608
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Dylan influenced rock jams. You know this, and you're gonna

609
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: have to do better than that. But Tim and say,

610
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I think it is. It is just he is a

611
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: godlike figure in a way because somehow everything came together,

612
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, he has all the privilege, you know,

613
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: he has the privilege, he has the looks, he has

614
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: the exact look that makes sense for this particular time period. Meanwhile,

615
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: he also has the industry cashe to be in every

616
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: like important movie too. So he basically, I mean he's

617
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: his flops never register. Like He's had some things around

618
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: there that didn't work, but they never register. What registers

619
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: is like he has been in so many of the

620
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: biggest movies of every year. Yes, and I'm sorry but

621
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: like then he's also charming. I think when he talks, honestly,

622
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the browness of like the douch nous of like how

623
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: he talks is like so endearing because it's like, oh,

624
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: you're like you're just a guy, and it's like, oh no,

625
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: he really does have his kick and it too. He

626
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: gets to be like art darling, hyper twink, and then

627
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: you like also gets to be like getting a beer

628
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: with the guys. I think he's infallible. I heard someone

629
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: told me this story who works at SNL and that

630
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: when he was hosting, he was like in the hallways

631
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: talking to someone and got really excited and like kind

632
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: of started like running around, jumping around, and he back

633
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: flipped into a trash can. But it was he sorry,

634
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: he fell. It was like a backflip fall into a

635
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: trash can, and everyone was just completely charmed. And I'm like,

636
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: if anyone else did that, it would end their career.

637
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: Like to fall into a trash can at thirty Rock

638
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: when you're excited about a sketch is humiliating. But he

639
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: was just like ha ha ha, and everyone's like ha

640
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: ha ha, and then it's like that's it. And I

641
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: just think he can't really do anything wrong. But that's

642
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: but I think that's where the unfairness and the injustice

643
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: comes in. It's like, yes, imagine you know, it's like,

644
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: imagine this kind of this figure for whom none of

645
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: the rules apply, who can do whatever he wants and

646
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: it only makes him more endearing and more attractive. It's like, Okay,

647
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: what are you imagining? And it's like, oh, it's this twink.

648
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a CIA plant? No, I think

649
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: the talents too, like the onscreen magnatism is too pure

650
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: for it to be a plant. That's the thing with

651
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: cia plants is that, in fact, there never you can

652
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: always tell like like maybe maybe, or like that that

653
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: artist her h e R. Like I'm not the first

654
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: to say it's like a running a plant. Fine, but

655
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: like you can tell she's a Cia plant, Timothy, You can't.

656
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: You can't manufacture that kind of chrisma. No. And he

657
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: also one thing that so I had the absolute privilege

658
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: of meeting him last year. Please take us to this moment.

659
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Allow me. I was sitting at none other than a

660
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: French cafe in the West Village and he I was

661
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: sitting at a table and the person I was with

662
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: at one point her jaw dropped and I thought there

663
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: was a bug on me because I was like, there

664
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: must do something horribly wrong. And she was like, Rachel,

665
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: they're not going to believe this. But Timothy Shellm is

666
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: behind you. And I turned around he was there. I

667
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: immediately um, I had to ship. So I went to

668
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I started writing him a note that

669
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: I was going to just put on his table that's

670
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: like you changed my life, Like I'm obsessed with you.

671
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Please let me work with you. We're actually wrapped at

672
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: the same agency, like we can do it all in

673
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: a house whatever. And then I was like, I can't

674
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: write a note. So I went back upstairs and I

675
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: was like, I have to talk to him, but I

676
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be chill. So I got up and I

677
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: walked by him and I pretended to do a double take.

678
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: It was planned, and I said, I said, no way,

679
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: it's Timmy. That's what I said. That was my big

680
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: sort of like thing that I said to him, and

681
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: he was uh huh, And we talked a little bit.

682
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I saw you in your high school

683
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: talent show, you know. I was trying not to be

684
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: like you're a movie star right right, you were like

685
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: remember remember Rachel from high school? Yeah? Basically he also

686
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: one thing that happened was like a like I guess

687
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: it was like seventeen. My mom was on an Amtrak

688
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: train with him and he didn't and they were going

689
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: into Canada and he didn't have his passport, so my

690
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: mom was like helping him at the border, and he

691
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: remembered her. I was like, my mom helped you at

692
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: the border. Like I was really like trying to do

693
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: everything to like establish some sort of like personal connection,

694
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: and he remembered my mom. I was so excited, and

695
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: why did I start talking about this? So what was he? Like?

696
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Like you, it was a good experience, it was it

697
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: was he was very nice, He was very chill. We

698
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: took a photo together. He told me he liked my sweat,

699
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: and you know, that was kind of it. But we

700
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: we took these pictures together and I posted them on Instagram,

701
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: and his fan base like swarmed and they were the

702
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: nicest people in the world. I got all these d

703
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: ms being like I'm so well, first of all, a

704
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: lot of d ms being like where was he? Like

705
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: how did you find him? But everyone's apologizing for reaching

706
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: out it's not like it's not like tell me where

707
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: he was, bitch. It was like, I'm so sorry to

708
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: interrupt your day, but you know, I'm just curious, like

709
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: where was this in the city whatever? And then other

710
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: people were like you look like him, and I was like,

711
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the best day in my life.

712
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: And some people sent me fan art, which means I

713
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: gave them my address, by the way, I know, not right? Wait,

714
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: did they give you fan art that was like them

715
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: drawing that photo of you and Timmy? Yes? Is it worth?

716
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Is it worth me showing it to you right now?

717
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'll show you later. Yeah. Can we put

718
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: it on our Instagram? Yeah? Please, I'll send you Yeah,

719
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: and we'll tag the creators too, because we don't want

720
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: anyone getting mad at no matter how nice they are.

721
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: When you were talking about like maybe we should work together,

722
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: were you able to like slip that into this conversation? No, no,

723
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: I messaged him after on Instagram. Of course not. I

724
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: think I've since deleted it because I feel in my

725
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: heart that one day we will work together, and I

726
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't want him to think I'm crazy, But

727
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe too late, like if he did

728
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: any sort of investigation into me, it would be very

729
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: clear that he is my life blood. Well from now on.

730
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry to tell you this, but if

731
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: he ever googled rachel College to maybe a shallow me,

732
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: this very episode would come up. That is so true.

733
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that, and I'm feeling shame. No, no,

734
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it's fine because like what we do with

735
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: these episodes, as we put that sort of half hour

736
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: of nonsense talk at the beginning, so like Timothy, he's

737
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: literally so busy. It's a defense mechanism, so like he

738
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: won't get through that. He'll be like, oh, like it's

739
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: just titled that, but it's not about me, so never mind. Yeah,

740
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: she's really cool. I guess I want to get into

741
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: like the straightness of Timothy as a as a figure

742
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: because to me, the you know, obviously we're all praising him,

743
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: but of course what runs through that praise is like

744
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: he is someone who there are people like him who

745
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: basically are necessary to maintain the status quo because like

746
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the rest of the men that are

747
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: not as not as perfected as timmy people are like,

748
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: oh they suck. We should tear down and we should

749
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: tear down heterosexuality and masculinity. And then he comes along

750
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: and then and it happens every generation and then we're like, well,

751
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: let's give it another chance. Yeah, and in that sense

752
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: he is evil. Well, what I want to say is

753
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: literally like like what we were talking about earlier is like,

754
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: this is someone going to vote for Joe Biden. This

755
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: is like the lamest statement you will ever hear me say.

756
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: But I have to. It's like if he were like

757
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: I am gay and everything else about him is the same,

758
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: would it work? No? No, he would be Troice Savan.

759
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't work. That's yeah, it wouldn't work. What if

760
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: he was by I think that could work? I mean,

761
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: but I think it would have to be married to

762
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: a woman. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're totally right. Yeah.

763
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: But that like makes us confront our own prejudices. That's

764
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like with everything we think we're so

765
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: pro LGBT and all way on is Timothy shallow May Yeah,

766
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: and he like he touches, like you said, every aspect

767
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: of the lg gbt Q sort of spectrum without actually

768
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: being remember, and that's enough. It's that's exactly it, and

769
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: then you're like, wait, do we need people that are

770
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: actually lgbt Q or is tim that day enough? Right?

771
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: So in some ways his very presence is kind of

772
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: is kind of erasure of an entire community completely. I

773
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: think I feel more comfortable. I went to Ginger's last night,

774
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: which is a lesbian bar. First of all, let me say,

775
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: Chelsea Manning was there. Yeah, not with crimes, no, but

776
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: she was there, and that was funny to me. That's

777
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: grant ju that's pretty juicy. But I felt immense shame

778
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: and discomfort despite being a member of the space, and

779
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be there. And it's just like

780
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: I would feel better being at a basketball game with

781
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: sitting next to Timmy and Kid Cutty, like that is

782
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: better to me. And I think that is kind of

783
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: just a testament to my internalized um homophobia stuff like that,

784
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: And I think Timmy's enough. Yeah, it's not right. Yeah,

785
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: for as far as we get, we're always wanting validation

786
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: from straight people still, because that feels like the most

787
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: pure kind. Do you guys have Timmy's Am I allowed

788
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: to ask questions? By the way, You're yeah, you're allowed

789
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: to ask questions. Do we have Timmy's wee or like

790
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: someone who you know I am to Timothy. Do you

791
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: guys have someone like that that is straight of course

792
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: and a straight ma'am? I think so, because I think

793
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: that's the god. No mine are all. I'm like David

794
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: Lynch y like like Steve Martin. I don't know mostly,

795
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: but like that's cool. I think that's what it is

796
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: with Timmy. It's like, uh, you kind of think only

797
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: a woman can be that powerful, and then he comes along. Yes,

798
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: but I am trying to think, like, who are other people?

799
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think, for instance, like Brad Pitt

800
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: has that power. I was going to say that like

801
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, maybe Leonardo DiCaprio. I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio

802
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: has it, not even when he was young. Yeah, maybe

803
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: when he was young, but I but there was always

804
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: something so contrived about it to me, and especially now,

805
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: I just I've he lost his magic to me like

806
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: years ago, where yeah, I like that he's lost a

807
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: bit of his magic. I think it's like charming. It's

808
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: like like to watch someone continue to push through it

809
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: despite Oh yeah, he's so brave. It's human. It's relatable interesting, Okay, Yes,

810
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: I think this is a maybe a difference in the

811
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: LGBT spectrum is that I feel like gay men it's

812
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: hard to like obsess over men like straight men. George,

813
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that, Like actors, do you

814
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: think it's hard to obsess over straight men, like as

815
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I think we're struggling. I think we're struggling so hard

816
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: to like come up with a straight man that we're

817
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: like gagging for sure, Whereas if it were like actresses,

818
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, but I also think to be fair actresses, everyone,

819
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: like anyone who is gay prefers actresses, Like I'm sure

820
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: Rachel would all say, if you know, okay, you prefer

821
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: act I prefer straight men to straight women. Yes, ways,

822
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: Well to me, that's the thing, it's like for me

823
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: to appreciate a straight man, he has to somehow transcend

824
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: that identity, Like that's what Brad Pitt, Like, Brad Pitt

825
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: is a symbol. Basically, prat Pitt is not a human,

826
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: like I'm not if someone's like, you know, he's actually

827
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: like a bad father, I'm like, that's not really the

828
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: level I'm operating yet, Like I don't think of him

829
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: as like a corporeal person who has flawed. It's just

830
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: like he is a symbol that is necessary and if

831
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: we didn't have that, they'll probably be like more violence totally.

832
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: It's also any like actor that I'm thinking about, it's

833
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: more like I want to have sex with them. It's

834
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: not like I think of like I'm addicting to their

835
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: on screen magnetism or like the theories of them, like

836
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: in the way that Timmy it does feel a little

837
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: like it's more than that. But like when I'm like

838
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: what actors an obsessed with him? Like well he'saw, it's

839
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 1: like I'm on the point, that's not the point. Yeah,

840
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm I am trying to think, like, yeah, I think

841
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: I think for me, my dream is to be assists man,

842
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: and it's just never gonna happen. And it's no problem

843
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: I have to it has to be sis man. Yeah.

844
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: Well that's where it becomes difficult, exact like, and I'm

845
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: sort of just you know, now, I'm just floating around basically,

846
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, sort of striving towards that. But I think

847
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: that's why I'm obsessed with like, yeah, straight men, I'm

848
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: just like I want to be that, And so it's

849
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: like always something to watch and strive for and sort

850
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: of idealize, even though face to face with them, I

851
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: often hate them. Yeah, well you know you are. We

852
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: are often uh attracted or not attracted to sexually, but

853
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: like we often want what is bad for us at optimism.

854
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm gonna get that tattooed on me. Yeah,

855
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: can you credit George on tattoo? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, making

856
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: my email to Yeah, just do write my email address

857
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: under the tattoo. Um. Wow. It actually really is kind

858
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: of like crazy sam to think, like, who are act

859
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: like that? I cannot think of a single male actor

860
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: like that, because then there are male actors that I

861
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: just think are so immensely talented, like Ancle Hopkins, of course,

862
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: but I don't think Emmy Opkins has a timidate energy

863
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: and like Jason Alexander as he keeps showing up on

864
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: my Twitter feed. Really why, I think because all these

865
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: like the moms in Seinfeld keep dying and he's always

866
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: like I will miss her, and I'm like, what a

867
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: good guy. Yeah, he's he's active on Twitter. And also

868
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: like Seinfeld, that's like, you know, it's having a renaissance,

869
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: is being nemified. Do you know what I'm realizing though.

870
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I think, like, I think some part of why we're

871
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: struggling is just like celebrity, because it's so easy for

872
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: anyone to be a celebrity. Then now it doesn't have

873
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: the power that it once had. Even Timidity can't be

874
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. No, it's too there's too many, it's too saturated. Yeah,

875
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: it's too saturated. It's just like, yeah, it's tough. What

876
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: do you what do you think, tim he's going to

877
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: be up to in like ten years, Like, you can't

878
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: be a twink forever, right, Yeah, it pains me to

879
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: think about it. If I'm being frank, I don't. I

880
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: hope he never grows facial hair. I hope he's getting

881
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: laser treatment. Here's a question. Who are twinks that had

882
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: lasting power? I do think Leonardo DiCaprio is one. Yeah, maybe,

883
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: like you know, Hugh Grant, No, I guess he was

884
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: never really twinky. Who's that guy who played a trans

885
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: woman and then said sorry, yeah, but it's like, but

886
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: he kind of has fallen off a bit. He's doing

887
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: the Dumbledore movies, but scary, like, there is something to

888
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 1: the lifespan of a twink is shorter. It's a beautiful life.

889
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: But what about Justin Bieber not a twink, not a

890
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: twink but sort of like weird I mean in music

891
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Like that's also the Harry Styles approach. It's like the

892
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: way is to get a bunch of tattoos and be like,

893
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm weird now, So don't think give me as as

894
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: a little boy anymore. Yeah, I do think Harry Styles

895
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: my own feelings about him aside, Harry Styles for most

896
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: of the population does have that effect. Like Harry Style

897
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: is more so than timidity, is like a godlike figure

898
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: on par with Brad Pitt for his audience. My sibling

899
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: is obsessed with really was obsessed with one direction growing

900
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: up and has it. Was very involved on tumbler in

901
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: sort of the conversation around Harry Styles and Louie Tomlinson

902
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: being gay. Um, and so I've I've heard a lot

903
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: about that, and you know, I think there's a huge

904
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: audience of people who are invested in them being queer

905
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: and hiding it. Yeah, that that makes me feel crazier

906
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: than anything, like or like more disconnected than anything is,

907
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: like the Hairy Style stuff, because I don't I feel

908
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: completely neutral towards him, but it's like I think so too. Yeah,

909
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: and and I think he seems like a fine Like

910
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not like bothered by him. He he actually seems

911
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: very genuine. But it's but I think that's just it's

912
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: okay for it to be a generational thing. Like that's true.

913
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: What are you saying are you seeing I mean the

914
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: older generation, I'm just saying, like you're you're washed up?

915
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: What the hell are you saying? Oh, it's so funny

916
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: when people make fun of gen Z, Like when people

917
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: are like gen Z is prude, I'm like, no, you

918
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: just like shouldn't be able to see what a fifteen

919
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: year old is thinking, Like you shouldn't be able to

920
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: have a window into that. This is we need, This

921
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: is what you're talking about. We need more in the

922
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: localized systems. We literally need like an app just for

923
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: gen Z to hang out with each other. That's like

924
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: how people, that's how communities are built. A forty twoyear

925
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: old should not be able to retweet a fifteen year

926
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: old and say this is stupid and vice versa, Like

927
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: it's just like no, no, no, no, no, Like the

928
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: idea that anyone, any forty two year old would do

929
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: that and think they could ever come out on top,

930
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: like even if they are doing some grand generational critique,

931
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: like you are literally like you are humiliating yourself to

932
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: such a degree and and to not realize that is crazy.

933
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean it is the equivalent of literally like an

934
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: uncle like yelling at the kids on that Thanksgiving table. Yeah.

935
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where that that should be the

936
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: only place where there's like intergenerational dialogue is that family holidays? Yeah,

937
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and in you know, and in all the generational career

938
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: spaces potentially chosen family and if you will, but uh yeah,

939
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: if you're straight and not related to someone, do not

940
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: retweet them. Yeah, did you get to the bottom of Timmy?

941
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Any final words? Rachel? I think that I am the

942
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: key to him unlocking whatever he's going to do next. Wow.

943
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: I agree, they can transition into adulthood without your help.

944
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: I really he needs a hardened queer person at his side. Yeah.

945
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: These celebrities that seem so untouchable, there are always as

946
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: a crack, even someone do you remember and I listen,

947
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: I love Beyonce. I would commit murder in her honor tomorrow. However,

948
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: there was today there was a time when it was

949
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: like illegal to say anything bad about her. Now you

950
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: can say something bad about her. It's never It never

951
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: lasts as long as you think it's gonna last, the

952
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: kind of untouchability. And for Timmy, it might happen in

953
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: six months, it might happen in a year, might happen

954
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: in three years. But it's gonna happen. He's gonna be

955
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: in some flop of a movie. You know, there's gonna

956
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: be some article on Vulture that's like what we talk

957
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: about when we talk about Timothy Shalome, and it's going

958
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: to reach no conclusions. But then it will create a

959
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: crack in the discourse. And then you know, slowly people

960
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: will start, lips will start flapping. Yeah, and that's when

961
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: I swoop in. There needs to be a crack first though.

962
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: He's not going to realize he needs you until that happens.

963
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: I see, I see. Okay, Yeah, so maybe it's okay.

964
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is your origin, your villain origin story.

965
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: It's your job to create the crack. You have to

966
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: create the crack. I kind of think the crack is

967
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: going to be the Wonka movie he's making. I'm saying, Wow,

968
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: you're right, It's just there's no way that ends up

969
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: going well for him. That's honestly a very Eddie redmin

970
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: move of him. Yeah, he's trying to retire. Yeah, well,

971
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: I really look forward to seeing how that film turns

972
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: out and to the aftermath of that film. And I

973
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: speak for every when I when I say the world

974
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: is watching, Yeah, yeah I am. You know. I wish

975
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: him nothing but the best. I hope Wanka defies all expectations.

976
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: I think I hope it's our next Casablanca. I've heard

977
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: of Casablanca, but Cassa Wonka. Okay, okay, somebody got there. Um,

978
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: should we do our final segment? Yeah, I think we

979
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: can wrap that up. I think that's the cherry on

980
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: top of the damn episode. I think I retire the

981
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: whole thing. Our final segment, Rachel is called shoutouts, and

982
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: then we give a shout out to anything that we

983
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: enjoy in an omage classic straight tradition. So imagine you're

984
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, at t R L it she doesn't one,

985
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: and you're in Time Square shouting out to your squad

986
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: back home, which, in your case, well you grew up

987
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: in Times Square. Yes, you're kind of Francis haw in

988
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: that way. Mistress America I always forget. So with that

989
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: being said, George, do you have one? I do, and

990
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: in fact it's kind of inspired by something you said,

991
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: so I hope that you will forgive me for that.

992
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Well we'll see, all right, Um, what's up, breaks and losers?

993
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to that's right,

994
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: the actor and comedian Steve Martin. I have recently been

995
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: revisiting Steve Martin's I would say mid career work. I

996
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: watched a film of his with Lily Tomlin called All

997
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: of Me, where Lily Tomlin's consciousness takes over his body.

998
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: And then I watched the absolute rock hard classic Dirty

999
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: Rotten Scoundrels with Steve Martin and Michael Caine. Literally a

1000
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: perfect film. And I am just thinking our our generations

1001
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: physical comedians. Who who is able to do that? We have,

1002
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: we have the cerebral comedians, we have the kind of

1003
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: uh political, provocative comedians, but who is able to really

1004
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: throw themselves on a pile of trash other than of

1005
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: course Timid challow May at thirty Rock as we learned.

1006
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: So I am officially calling for Hollywood to produce a

1007
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: good physical comedian in my generation or younger and that

1008
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: is a challenge. That is a straighter lab challenge. Literally

1009
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: give anything to any opportunity to someone who is able

1010
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: to do physical comedy on par with Steve Martin. I'll

1011
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: be watching who Wow a shout out and the challenge.

1012
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I love that. That's awesome, That's really awesome. Um okay,

1013
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: I have one. What's up freaks, losers and the little

1014
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: perverts around the globe. I would like to give a

1015
01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: huge shout out to wearing earbuds at the club. Last night,

1016
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: I went out, and I've been going to three dollar

1017
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: Bill recently and because people keep having things and being

1018
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: like com and I'm like trying to say yes to

1019
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: the dress and I but last time I went, my

1020
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: ears fucking hurt, and I was like, the music is

1021
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: too loud. It's actually not comfortable. When you make the

1022
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: music do loud and you make this say, it's the

1023
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: space unfun to be in. But then I thought, hey,

1024
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: what can you control in this situation? I got some

1025
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: damn earbuds, and I thought, maybe this will look stupid,

1026
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: maybe I will feel stupid. Completely the opposite. I felt

1027
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: in control, I felt comfortable, I felt my ears were

1028
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: not blown out, and I felt like I could have

1029
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: a casual time without you know, hurting my body in

1030
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: order to enjoy the stupidest music you could ever imagine.

1031
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful night of um what's the word um?

1032
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: When you're being like responsible, not mediocrity, but like a

1033
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: beautiful middle mediocrity. Well, it was a beautiful nded mediocrity.

1034
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: And everyone can agree with moderation, My moderation. That's it.

1035
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to moderation. Shout out to earbuds. I love you.

1036
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: Whoo whoo. Okay, now okay, what's up? Freak? What's up?

1037
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: Freaks and losers? Um? I want to give this shout

1038
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: out to banking. Um. This has been something that I've

1039
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of had to do. I've had to talk to

1040
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: an accountant, and I've never felt stupider. And I really

1041
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: only asked to talk to the male bankers because I

1042
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: just trust them to tell me what to do. And

1043
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: I feel like they created the system and so they

1044
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: know the most about it and nothing makes me feel smaller,

1045
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: and I'll do pretty much anything they tell me to do.

1046
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: And I'm just really grateful for being able to kind

1047
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: of walk into a bank and ask them, you know,

1048
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: what do I do? What do I do? What should

1049
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: I do? I'll do anything. Yeah, you know, they really

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Speaker 1: have the key, they hope they I've had to work

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01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: with an accountant for the first time and it's really

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: the craziest. He tries to explain stuff and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what don't you get about this? I don't want to learn,

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01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: tell me what to do, tell me sign stop it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and can I just say something. I'm

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01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: also working with accountants, three women, and how's that going?

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Speaker 1: Really well? Yeah for now, but the irs is going

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: to be barking down your door and but you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's the I hate to say it, but I'm like,

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Speaker 1: would an unethical mafia like man be able to get

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Speaker 1: me like a better deal? Like I know they're doing

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: everything honestly, and I don't like it. My guy like

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01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: always wants me to like cheat, and I'm like, can

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: we just do it normal? And he's like, well, you

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01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: could say you're in Delaware and I could save you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. It's crazy how much of the world

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01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: is literally like the mafia. And like how when I

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: when I tried to join a gym and realized literally

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: a tron like the mafia, Like they have different prices

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Speaker 1: based on how gullible they think you are. Was like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, like I'm not smart enough to step up

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Speaker 1: to the plate here. I hate negotiating more than anything

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Speaker 1: in the world. It's like, just tell me the price,

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Speaker 1: I'll pay it. Yeah, stop this game. Well, wow, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: this has been the only good thing I've ever done

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Speaker 1: in my life. I have to say this is the

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Speaker 1: first podcast of the rest of our lives. That's right,

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Speaker 1: I think it's We're off to a great start. What

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Speaker 1: a welcome back for me after being in France and

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Speaker 1: off social media for ten days. Welcome back, thank you,

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Speaker 1: um well, thanks so much for doing the pod. I

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Speaker 1: hope to me here's this Yeah, and shout out to Timmy.

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Speaker 1: But also watch out, yeah, the next chapter is coming in.

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Speaker 1: It will not be pretty all right, all right? Well,

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Speaker 1: by glame Aristas. We love you. The Pad, the Beat

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Speaker 1: and the Beat.