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Speaker 1: Award winning producer Jermaine dupri with over four hundred million

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Speaker 1: Jermaine was one of the first hip hop DJ's to

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Speaker 1: The founder of Social Death Recordings and Management, Jermaine dupri

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Speaker 1: Yo Yo, thank you for that. Great Hey, Jermaine, here's

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Speaker 1: the sad one. But I left out a lot. I

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Speaker 1: left out a lot. That's I might still send it

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. Um, your host, Sean McDonald,

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Speaker 1: that's part of your legacy. Then that's like you said

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Speaker 1: your vocabulary, did it doesn't, Holly, No, No, I believe

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Speaker 1: the only way you can wake up. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: got my wife and my family to see it again

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00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: because it was done so well. And it was a

639
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: story about powerful women who have flaws, okay, and it

640
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: was an honest story. And then but how does the

641
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: story like that come about? Because it was a story

642
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: that tolds flaws because you know, in the Gospel community,

643
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: one thing they do tend to hide is flaws. And

644
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: this this movie was so receptive to me and millions

645
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: of Americans because it was an understory. Your conversation, Well,

646
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: I think what was important for me was to tell

647
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: the truth of their you know, journey. He said it. Well,

648
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: they were women of faith, Um. They were pushed by

649
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: a very strong passionate um and faithful mother. Um. But

650
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: at the same time, they had a lot of love

651
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: at the same time there um, certainly were areas of conflict,

652
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: and because the conflict was so relatable to national audiences.

653
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Christian, you don't have

654
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: to be African American, you don't have to be a

655
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: woman of faith you understood where what was going on.

656
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: You understood that the mom was trying to fight for

657
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: her children. You understood that the mom was fighting against

658
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: a national organization to stay kind of you know, um

659
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: traditional and not that you know uh, expand out to

660
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: other areas. And so you these were all relatable issues

661
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: that came up, and so I was able to tell

662
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: of the conflict. I was able to tell talk about family,

663
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: I was able to talk about dreams, and I was

664
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: able to talk about faith. We'll be right back with

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Speaker 1: A deductible may apply. Welcome back to money making Conversations, Um,

687
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: your host Sean McDonald. And now that's really and you've

688
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: always talked about Spade Faith and when you talk about

689
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: the merge conferences, and that's why when there's a certain

690
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: degree of authenticity that's part of your brand. And so

691
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: let's talk about those conferences and how it kind of

692
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: like set the I set the groundwork. I like to

693
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: believe for your for the model of how you do

694
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: business today because you have standards. You know, you hold

695
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: me to those that roushan you can't say that and

696
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: then and and and and and but I would come

697
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: there out of respect because of the fact that you

698
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: had a voice and you were creating a voice that

699
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. You know you can make money and pop,

700
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: you can make money in R and B. That gospel

701
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: money kind of comes slow. You know, got to convince

702
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: people to line up and participate. You know, sponsors don't

703
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: exactly jump on board for you would think they would,

704
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: because it's all about feeling good. It's all about the

705
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: uplift inspirational. You think they line up, but that laid

706
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: the groundwork for your credibility and all this and when

707
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: you start lining up these gospel projects that you involved in,

708
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: but then it also allows you across over to non

709
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: secular projects. A lot of people aren't walking in line

710
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: like you're doing it right now. Talk about the merge projects, Well,

711
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: the merge was really um uh an idea God gave

712
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: me over twelve or probably over fifteen years ago, and

713
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: I sat on it for a while because I felt

714
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: like it was too big of an undertaking. But the

715
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: whole idea of it was to be able to cross

716
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, faith and secular or faith and the commercial

717
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: sectors together in an effort to merge opportunity. I wanted

718
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: to bring opportunity to those who were sitting on the

719
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: pews of the church who really wanted to connect with

720
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood but didn't have access. And so that kind of

721
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: that that idea has kind of, you know, spun into

722
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: the rest of what I do. I always want to

723
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: bring faith and entertainment together, which is why most of

724
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: the projects that I do are aspirationally driven, redemptive in nature,

725
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: but at the same time entertaining, well, very entertaining. And

726
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: so when when the number because when the numbers came

727
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: in on the First Ladies of Gospel, there's always expectation.

728
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: First of all, you want people to watch it. Okay,

729
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing, you know. So when the

730
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: numbers came in the way they came in, what was

731
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: the ground swell around you and the Clark's Sisters involvement. Um,

732
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: it was a huge ground swell, you know, the the

733
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: excitement around it, the hype, the fact that it touched

734
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: so many people, and the fact that it um you know,

735
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: it was uh widely watched and um it just it

736
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: garnered so many other opportunities because it was like you

737
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: build it, they come, And when it was built and

738
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: they came, others were like Oh, they come, let's do

739
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: this together. You know. So that's kind of that's kind

740
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: of what it was, all this excitement. You're on't fire,

741
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: the world's don't fight, the numbers in place, COVID hits

742
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Lord and mercy. Nobody saw that coming shut us down.

743
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: How did that impact you? And how did you deal

744
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: from a family perspective and a professional perspective with covid.

745
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: Um you just make the adjustment, you know. I think

746
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I think the whole pandemic has been an opportunity to

747
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: reset um kind of to renew UH and to return

748
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: to some of the things that we might have moved

749
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: away from. UM. It certainly caused you to rethink um,

750
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: how to do life, how to do family, and how

751
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: to do business and UM. You know it is it

752
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: is the word said it's required of a steward to

753
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: be found faithful. And so for me, you know, I

754
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: want to be found faithful in everything that presents itself.

755
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: So that was just another challenge to say, you know,

756
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: this is life. How are you going to make the adjustment?

757
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: And while it was very very difficult for us as

758
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: a as a country, as a you know, as as Americans,

759
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: it was also something very intentional about it in terms

760
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: of returning us to our first love would never be said.

761
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: You know, we have owned special. The holidays were Thanksgiving,

762
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: now going into the Christmas holidays, and you have a

763
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: holiday special coming up on own. Tell us how that

764
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: come to that point and tell us about it. Uh, Well,

765
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: after the success of the Clark's Sisters, Um, that conversation

766
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: happened at O. However, the conversation at had happened a

767
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: year prior, um, you know, and the President was like, oh,

768
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: this was already in my head because I remember sitting

769
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: with her and her words, her last words were we're

770
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna work together. And after the Clock's Sisters happened, it

771
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: was like, and now it's time. So uh, that's kind

772
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: of how that came together. And then, um, the two

773
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: specials that our own Christmas which airs December one, six

774
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: pm Pacific nine pm Easter stamp time, and of course

775
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: our own Easter which airs Easter holiday, Um, you know,

776
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: going into Easter. So um, it's been wonderful. Doing gospel

777
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: at own is has been awesome because they let me

778
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 1: do what what we do and it's been a really

779
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: great partnership. I Mean they're like, okay, you know this world,

780
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: you go do it here some of our notes. But

781
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: other than that, congratulations, congratulations. Okay, you're a big time producer.

782
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: People come to you with projects. People got everybody got

783
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: a good idea of bad ideas. Sometimes you gotta hear

784
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: the bad idea to get to the good idea. What

785
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: do I what do you look for when people are

786
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: pitching your projects? I look for things that are on

787
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: brand with what I believe in and what I want

788
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: to put my name on. Uh. And that has to

789
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: do with empowerment, aspiration, redemptive storytelling. Um, I'm you know,

790
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm really specific. There are things that I just will

791
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: not do, and then there are things that I'm like, Yes,

792
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: this is me and what is what is that? Okay,

793
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about the secular, combining the secular and

794
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: the gospel together. That's what Merge was all about. Now,

795
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: now you're looking at you. You are you are you?

796
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Would you like to believe that you still have that

797
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: perfect balance where you can be able to go either

798
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: way and feel comfortable and still maintain credibility with your brand. Yes,

799
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: as long as I'm intentional about uh when I go

800
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: the other way. But but even when I go the

801
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: other way, they're it's still gonna always have to be align. Uh,

802
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: you know a thread of what my beliefs are because

803
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: you know, I just couldn't do anything and then still

804
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: stand by. You know, what has gotten me this far

805
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: and that and that for me is UM compromise. You know,

806
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: there are things that I am not willing to compromise

807
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: in order to achieve a certain thing. If I can't

808
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: achieve it by being true to what I believe and

809
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: true to UM what I stand behind, then I don't

810
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: do it. Well. The great thing about what you're doing

811
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: is now you started out in casting, then you started

812
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: out in talent management. Is that still on your horizon?

813
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Talent development, talent managing, talent Well, I still manage here.

814
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: She's somewhat that's family to me, so I'll always be.

815
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I will always touch her career in some way. But

816
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: in terms of other talent, I do talent partnerships, and

817
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: those talent partnerships UM are strictly to curate content around

818
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: their brand and create opportunities that UM you know, further

819
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: UM their brand in the marketplace. But but day to

820
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: day management, no, I don't do that, and I'm sure

821
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: back around. I think you're getting a little closer. I

822
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: understand that feeling young ladies, I understand that. Well. She

823
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: has a first look deal with OWN. Two holiday specials,

824
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: one appearance Deceper first on Own, the next coming in

825
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: Easter Break. I want to bring you back in the

826
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: easter Holly excuse me, Dr Holly Carter. Uh. Proud of you,

827
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know, fantastic. Uh yeah, just keep winning

828
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: and keep your brand. I'm gonna keep supporting your brand

829
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: and just watching you grow like this. And you know

830
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: what really makes me feel good because I know how

831
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: this business one big hustle, and so you and and

832
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: for you to sit up and then you just tell

833
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: me Own and say, hey, you do what you do

834
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: to me. I know how powerful it is. I know

835
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: we fight for that ability to have that level of

836
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: trust at that network level. And Owned is a powerful network,

837
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: my friend. And you know that. And so for somebody

838
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: to tell you that, I can only say, I'm so

839
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: proud that I was able to hear the word. And

840
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: you told me, Rashane, I have a network over here

841
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: by the way that's owned by Oprah, and they tell

842
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: me do what I do. And guess what I'm gonna

843
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: keep doing it and congratulations. Okay, thank you appreciate. My

844
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: next guest, John Hope Bryant is the founder, chairman, and

845
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: chief executive officer of Operation Hope, Inc. A global nonprofit

846
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia. Birth just under three decades ago

847
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: in response to the despair and destruction of the Los

848
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Angeles riots and spursed just starts at home. But we

849
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: should all understand that at such an early age, the

850
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: fact that his mother told him she loved him every

851
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: day ensure that he didn't have a self esteem problem.

852
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: The fact that his dad was a business owner for

853
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: fifty four years gave him a real example of being

854
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. So through him he had the sense of this,

855
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: yes I am and yes I can. John Holt, brian

856
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: work has been recognized by five past US presidents, and

857
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: you served as an adviser to three past sitting US presidents.

858
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: A mentor too many, Brian is dedicated to sharing his

859
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: failures and successes in life and business to empower the

860
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: next generation of entrepreneurs and world changers. Please work with

861
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: the money Making Conversation, my friend John Hope. Brian hey

862
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: shawan otto to be with you man, Thanks for doing

863
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: what you do well, thank you for getting on this call.

864
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: So where yet right now and what's at the top

865
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: of the list in the middle of the pandemic for you?

866
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: I am in Atlanta, Georgia, which I believe is the

867
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: moral center for America, is a moral capital for America.

868
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: That's where we got our It's where the Civil War

869
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: was concluded, the March to the Sea, the Battle for

870
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: the March of the Sea. U s. Where civil rights

871
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: for black people were was born with the civil rights movement.

872
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Uh It's where the largest population of black wealth is today,

873
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: which I think is the beginning of what I call

874
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: the Silver Rights movement. S I l V E. R.

875
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Moving in the in the suites about economics, power, ownership

876
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: and opportunity that matches, and moving in the streets, which

877
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: was about basic decency and dignity, respecting the access. Uh So,

878
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: I just think we're sitting in the moment in history,

879
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: my man, but we don't. We don't see it for

880
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: what it is at the moment. Well, you know, when

881
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: you talk about the black wealth, you know the Tulsa riots,

882
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say the riots of the massacre when he

883
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: had a black Wall Street in Tulsa, and the blacks

884
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: were being um stopped from achieving success financially, socially and

885
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: being recognized for their intelligence, the ability to be entrepreneurs.

886
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: And that's what we're fighting today. We're fighting, uh, the

887
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: message that we participate. How can we overcome the stigma

888
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: that you know, I want to have to say this.

889
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: White America keeps trying to say black people don't participate. Well,

890
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: we gotta get our minds right, ma man. And that's

891
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that I wanted to do your show,

892
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: and the one of the reasons I bought I wrote

893
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: the book. Uh, it's now bestseller that came out Living

894
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: a month ago, called Up from Nothing. They're untold story

895
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: of how we all succeed. It's all about mindset. So

896
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: let's go back from Let's go back to the Tulsa

897
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: example you gave. You know, I get frustrated with people

898
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: saying Tulsa, Oklahoma, the black Wall Street because that's every

899
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: street in white America. I mean, there was nothing, you know, Tulsa,

900
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the community which was a devastation, which was horrible, which

901
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: was which was humiliating, disgusting, h every negative thing to

902
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: think about what was done to us, but the aspiration

903
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: that we achieved on that street, and it was just

904
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: a just a you blocks. It was a community, a

905
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: local community that should be every community in America, not

906
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: one middle place in Oklahoma that we point to from

907
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: a hundred years ago. The fact is blacks of white

908
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: families passed down wealth and generation and generation, and it's

909
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: in wealth creation has become a habit with our mainstream

910
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Caucasian friends. Uh. And the differentiation between making money and

911
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: building wealth is everything you know, making money you do

912
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: from nine to five. Building wealth it's what you do

913
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: from nine to five, nine pm to five pm. So

914
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: you hustle, you you earn your listing from nine to five.

915
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: You may have a part time hustle from five to nine,

916
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: but you actually build wealth in your sleep from from

917
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: nine to five, nine pm to five am. It stocks

918
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: its bonds, it's a business investment, it's entrepreneurship. It's education

919
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: because it compounds in your sleep. It's compounding its rental income.

920
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: You built welcome. You're sweep. Nor ever taught us this.

921
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: We're we're we as you already know. We are brilliant.

922
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: When the rules are published in the plane to this

923
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: level we succeed. But it's what we don't know that

924
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: we don't know this killing us, but we think we know.

925
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: And Ambassador Andrew Young, who was on that balcony with

926
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Dr King but he was assassinated my mentor and friends,

927
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: said to live in a system of free enterprise and

928
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: not to understand the rules of free enterprise just must

929
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: be the very definition of slavery. Wow, let me let

930
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: me ask you this, John again. Thank you for coming

931
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: on the show to discuss what we're talking about is

932
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: black entrepreneurs and black recognition being being saying that we are,

933
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: we're good citizens, we pay taxes, we want the same

934
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: thing you want, you know, living an environment where we

935
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: could be saving. Come home and nobody's broken in our homes.

936
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: And as soon as that that message doesn't get resonated

937
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: enough because it keeps being blindsided. But I'm gonna go

938
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: back a little bit and moved to Los Angeles from

939
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: New York. In two I was actually living in l A.

940
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: I was on the morning show on Steven Wonder this

941
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: radio station on kjl A. My best friend, that's what

942
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: we're doing, that new drive and so I got to

943
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: drive down Crinshaw when it all was going down, and uh,

944
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: that's where I first encountered black people without a fear

945
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: or trying to save their business, started saying, uh, this

946
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: is a black owned business. This is a black owned business.

947
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: This is a black owned business. Now that's nineteen as two.

948
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: We had a vivid video of a black man being

949
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: beat several times by several police officers, and then we

950
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: see a black man eight minutes being strangled to death

951
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 1: on video, same video. What I say that the city

952
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles set on fire the country? Like? Whoa

953
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: military was sent in to shut it down? What do

954
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you think is making a different today? Because white people

955
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: didn't participate in any civil change, but now you see

956
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: white people participating in civil change. And change can only

957
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: happen if everybody recognizes there as a problem. Yeah, so

958
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: you've you've unpacked, as I would expect from from a

959
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: high frequency thinker like you. You unpacked, you know you

960
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: under puerrilla and a huge question. Um, and I'll try

961
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: to answer it succinctly. There's a question within a question

962
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: within a question. Right. Uh So in my in my book,

963
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: I talked about so life is ten percent with life

964
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: does to you and not even how you choose to

965
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: respond to it. I put them my love leadership. So

966
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: what's your response going to be. So let's just go

967
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: back permitted to the trauma, because because we've been traumatized,

968
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: we've been we've been abused in this country as as

969
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: African Americans, but my Jewish friends were as an example,

970
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: were also likewise normally abused. There was attempted extermination. A

971
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: third of them were targeted for extermination by Hitler. But so,

972
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: but they went into that that battle with different schools

973
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: and we had. They came out of that battle with

974
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: different tools, and we had. They decided to fight that

975
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: battle with ownership, capitalism, economics. Uh. In fact, they were

976
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: not allowed to own land in Europe. Jews work, so

977
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: they created finance so they can finance the land and

978
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: create portable wealth literally finances portable wealth. And they went

979
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: into that battle with five what I call five pillars

980
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: of success. As much education you can shove down your throat,

981
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: understand the math, economics, ownership, entrepreneurships, intromidencity, all things you

982
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: talk about, family structure and resiliency, self esteem and confidence,

983
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: as you know, those two things are different. Self esteem

984
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: is how you esteem yourself confidences, how you think your

985
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: confidence and leading into the world in role modeling an environment. Right.

986
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: So they had those things tight going in and then

987
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: and they had them tight coming out. But they decided

988
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: to fight because they're Jews today are being stabbed and

989
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: murdered and enlynched around the world. But they decided to

990
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: fight their fight with economics, ownership and opportunity in in

991
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion, uh, in an economic world. So that

992
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: was the right response. Uh. And they and they've demanded

993
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: you know, even respect you could say earned it whatever

994
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: with our own respect. They demanded respect. You had poor

995
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: whites who came here from Britain who came here the

996
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: same time as we did as indigenous servants. Um, and

997
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: they're still poor today. No one taught them to be industrious,

998
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: but they had the benefit of being white. The word

999
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: white was a made up word, literally the European royal class.

1000
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: No one made this word up but us in America

1001
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: in a way to differentiate in their early sixteen hundred's

1002
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: poor whites from their poor black brothers and sisters, so

1003
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: they wouldn't collaborate together. We're on time of that story.

1004
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: We'll put it aside for a minute. So African American who,

1005
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: as you know, came here as geniuses of the land.

1006
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: That's why we were brought here from Africa, because we

1007
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: were agricultural geniuses. We get plant seed, soil and grow

1008
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: crops anywhere in the world. So we weren't dummies. We

1009
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: were geniuses. But when they got we got here, they

1010
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: dumbed this down. They stripped us of that self esteem

1011
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: and that confidence. They demanded us, they they demanded they

1012
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: denied us the education. The Freedman's Bank of a text

1013
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 1: five that Abraham Lincoln created to teach free slaves about

1014
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: money after the Civil War. He was killed the next month.

1015
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: The bank fell in and disrepair, even though further was

1016
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: tried to run it. People don't even know, uh that

1017
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: that that the predictor was was a businessman that he

1018
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: owned real estate in Baltimore, Maryland. They said he was

1019
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna avolitionists um and he and he put ten thousand

1020
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: orders on money that bank. But that bank failed, and

1021
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: no one taught us tontial literacy. Knowing that our family

1022
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: structure was was destroyed. Our resiliency as a result of

1023
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: that was denied, or what should says it was never built.

1024
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: Self esteem in the toilet wrote, confidence came from the

1025
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: wrong sort of things, which were things that blame, things

1026
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: that shine uh in role models were you know, okay,

1027
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: let's put in our role models the two areas we succeeded,

1028
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: and I'll shut up here. We're really at scale the arts.

1029
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, you work with Steve Harvey who was also

1030
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: friends the arts and professional sports. Why the rules were

1031
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: published and the plane field was leveled, so we killed it.

1032
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: Because the rules were published. In the plane there was

1033
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: level capitalism, which is nine percent of the GDP of

1034
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: this country in the world that's left over nowhere were

1035
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: taught of that game. So you combine the five pillars

1036
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: we didn't get with the game that we don't understand,

1037
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: and you end up in the situation that you find

1038
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: we find ourselves in where these in place black murders

1039
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: by police and unfortunate shootings, where it's five hundred credit

1040
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: score neighborhoods. We have a check casher next to a

1041
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: payday loan lender, next to a rent to own store,

1042
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: next to a title lender, next to a liquor store,

1043
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: next to a pawn shop, and as a church down

1044
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the street trying to make you feel a little bit

1045
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: better once a week. I called that an official psychologist,

1046
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: because we want admit that we creg Craig, we won't

1047
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: go get real health. And I think that if you're

1048
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: black today, before COVID, nineteen of us would be clinically undiagnosed,

1049
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: depressed for good reason. So what so COVID just just

1050
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: sort of took it even made you more resilient, and

1051
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: you double down on the right mentality I called a

1052
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: winning mentality. You have that. You've got a winning mentality

1053
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: and you've got a Hunters roll. You Rahan, You've got that,

1054
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: and that's why that's why you continue to succeed. But

1055
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: most of our people have a survising mentality and in

1056
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: an observer spectators role, that's the problem. We've got to

1057
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: get our heads back in the game. We gotta Malcolm xID.

1058
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: We've been bamboozer, we've been tripped, we've been right. Hood wink,

1059
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Come on now, hood wink. So that's why that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm all about financial literacy at scale, black ownership of

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Speaker 1: businesses as a way to social justice at scale. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm all go ahead, So let me ask you this, John.

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Speaker 1: You know that because what you're saying is absolutely correct,

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Speaker 1: And what I wanted to get the additional response to

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Speaker 1: you was that we had a video in ninety two

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Speaker 1: Rodey King, and then we had a video of two

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Speaker 1: thousand and twenty UM George Flayd George the nation read

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Speaker 1: saw the same video in ninety two l A burnt

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Speaker 1: down the bush, sent in the military to shut down

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Speaker 1: the situation and then move forward in people are white?

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Speaker 1: People are reacting differently? Was it COVID being shut down

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Speaker 1: being a sin of being able to talk amongst each other?

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00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: Or society has become more to racial now they're willing

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Speaker 1: to be able to communicate honestly about the flaws of America.

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Speaker 1: What made this movement different? It's fear fear, It's fear

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Speaker 1: in your own house. What I mean by that is

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Speaker 1: and by the way, there are a lot of uh

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Speaker 1: what I call you know, very very good Caucasian collaborators

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Speaker 1: and supporters out there that we should give them credit for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the partnered with the Urban League. That was

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Speaker 1: when the urban was created to blacks and whites. The

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: responsible whites partnered with the in the creation of the ACP.

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Speaker 1: Responsible white departnered with blacks in the creation of Operation

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Speaker 1: Hope and so many other organizations. So I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure, just sure that that that that statement is

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Speaker 1: out there, that this is not a white versus black conversation.

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Speaker 1: But your question, once again is very insightful, and the

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Speaker 1: answer is that they understand where at the where at

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Speaker 1: the end of kicking this can down the road, that

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: it's now going to hurt them if we don't we

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01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: don't solve this. That in Europe you had the European

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Speaker 1: families taken over when wealth got to one or two

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Speaker 1: percent of concentration of all wealth. That's not sustainable and

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Speaker 1: they so we were before COVID, before the economic crisis,

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Speaker 1: and before the swarted euros Social Justice recording, you had

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Speaker 1: this this widening of the wealth income inequality gap. But

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Speaker 1: you know it was it was five percent, it was

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Speaker 1: ten percent. But we now realized that every hundred years

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Speaker 1: you have you have a reset in this country. So

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Speaker 1: you had the independence from Britain in Circus seventy seventeen six,

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Speaker 1: Circuit seventeen seventy less, be there at A seventeen sixty five,

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Speaker 1: seventeen seventy five. Then you had the civil rights movement

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Speaker 1: Circus sixty eight, a hundred years later sixty sixteen, Uh, sorry,

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Speaker 1: let's go and sorry sorry, the Civil War my bad,

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty eighteen eight five. Then you had the Civil

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Speaker 1: rights movement the sixties nineties. Every hundred years, this one

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Speaker 1: is early. This was early. By thirty years, everybody realized

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Speaker 1: that the moment is pregnant and what the question is,

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna give birth to? Is it chaos to

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Speaker 1: God to call doctor King? Or is it community his

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: last book? Where do we go from here? So anybody

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Speaker 1: who's thinking right now, anybody who's thoughtful, anybody who has

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Speaker 1: wealth and wants to keep it, anybody who wants democracy

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Speaker 1: and wants to sustain it, is looking at a society

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Speaker 1: that's coming across, coming coming apart at the scenes. Because

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Speaker 1: hope is not equally distributed to all of God's children.

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Speaker 1: We're not keeping the conspetution that build the rights, not

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Speaker 1: even not not even by a liberal definition of that

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Speaker 1: is not sustainable. So my I tell my rich friends,

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Speaker 1: my rich friends need my poor friends to do better.

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Speaker 1: If only the state rich. So there's there's not enough

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Speaker 1: police to save you. If police have I'm sorry, if

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Speaker 1: people have lost hope. So I think that is the

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Speaker 1: short answer is that everybody understands that that that you

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Speaker 1: can take no pleasure from the fact that the whole

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Speaker 1: in my my end of our vote right because we're

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Speaker 1: money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to John Hope Bryant, Founder, chairman, chief executive offense of

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Speaker 1: Operation Hope Incorporated. He came on the show to talk

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Speaker 1: about one million new black businesses a campaign. Tell us

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Speaker 1: about it, John, Yeah, So you gotta have a solution

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Speaker 1: that's bigger than the problems that we face. The Bible says, well,

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01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: there is no vision that people perish. You've got to

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01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: have a solution bigger than the problems that we face.

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Speaker 1: And so I draft this link called a New Marshall Plan,

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: which people can go online and down looks. Uh. That's

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Speaker 1: my vision for the resetting of this country. And to

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Speaker 1: your point of what you preach on the show, it's

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01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: about a hand up strategy, not a hand out strategy.

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: It's about recognizing black folks as untapped GDP gross domestic

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01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: product that discrimination racism against blacks has cost this country

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Speaker 1: sixteen trillion dollars with the t and lost GDP in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years. City Group report of two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It also showed that they just knocked it off right now,

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Speaker 1: the country would gain another five trillion dollars of GDP

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Speaker 1: over the next five years. That's enough to pay off

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Speaker 1: the Care Act COVID nineteen stimulus money for the whole country.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this this challenge through an economic lens.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the right lens to solve it, to

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Speaker 1: get everybody on deck. And so if you have three million,

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Speaker 1: just under three million black businesses America, but percenters them

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Speaker 1: don't have an employee, pause, I want people to think

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Speaker 1: about that, all right, how could you get the Care

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Speaker 1: Act money, the PPP money, which was designed for employers

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Speaker 1: who have employees with overhead. If you're working from home

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Speaker 1: with no employees, you missed that boat altogether. It struck

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Speaker 1: me that we have no books and records. We've got

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Speaker 1: no business manager, we've got no accountant, no cp A,

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: we've got no proper banker. I don't mean to teller

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Speaker 1: at the local bank branch. I mean a private banker

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Speaker 1: who knows who you are and curate your involvement. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the phone. We don't we're not We're not building well.

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01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: We're on a treadmill, trying to get paid, getting paid,

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Speaker 1: getting some money, getting some paper. All that's these phrases

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Speaker 1: that we use is winning the battle and losing the war.

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: We need to be built building well. You can't build

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Speaker 1: wealth without compound, and can't compound without something other than you,

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Speaker 1: in this case employees, technology, infrastructure systems. So I decided

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Speaker 1: to not just plaining about it, to try to do

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Speaker 1: something about it. So we partnered together with Shopify, the

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Speaker 1: second largest e commers retailer in the world, the largest

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Speaker 1: company in Canada, and they committed a hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars at our Hope Global Forum last week,

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Speaker 1: a d and twenty seven million dollars over ten years

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Speaker 1: to help Operations Hope stand up one million new black businesses.

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Speaker 1: So people. People can go to one MBB operating type,

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Speaker 1: they can type into the computer one MBB is searchable now,

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Speaker 1: or go to Hope one mbb dot org or operations

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Speaker 1: Hope dot org and right now step into the new

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Speaker 1: reality of business ownership for themselves and their children and

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Speaker 1: their children's children, the creation of Well, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: into what that all this means, but that's the backstory

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Speaker 1: of what we're doing. And we're and and Shopify is

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Speaker 1: not the only company involved. It has made that first

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Speaker 1: major commitment. We're doing wrap around services which include accountants.

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Speaker 1: We're getting us time bank commitments of two hours for businesses.

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Speaker 1: We know. It's really interesting that you're saying this because

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Speaker 1: I remember nanty to open a comedy club. I just

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Speaker 1: opened it, John, Okay, I didn't have an accounting in place.

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand by human resources. I didn't have job applications,

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Speaker 1: and I was hiring people. Okay, I had no system

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Speaker 1: in place. And that's what you're talking about. As far

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Speaker 1: as being an entrepreneur. You have to document that you're

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur in order to be recognized as an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: In order to get loans, you have to have separate

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Speaker 1: bank accounts. In other words, if you have a personal

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Speaker 1: bank account, you should need to open up a business

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Speaker 1: bank account. This is how you become recognized as a

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Speaker 1: business person. And I used that named to an example

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Speaker 1: because just like you, I'm wanting to tell people how

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Speaker 1: I've made mistake in order to tell people how I've

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Speaker 1: recovered from those mistakes that I made. Nobody's perfect as

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Speaker 1: a as an entrepreneur. I don't care who you talk to.

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Speaker 1: Talk to Bill Get you, talk to Warren Buffet. They've

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Speaker 1: all made miscalculations on stock or miscalculation on business position.

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Speaker 1: But we have to understand that that happens. But you

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Speaker 1: have to have to understand that you have to have

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Speaker 1: the infra infrastructure in place in order to be respected

1231
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: and ought to be recognized as an actual business. And

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Speaker 1: that's where black people in general get frustrated and they're

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Speaker 1: quick to call racism because they're not giving the same opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But they're also not giving the same opportunity because they

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Speaker 1: don't have the right plan in place. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. How we're talking now, we're talking so

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Speaker 1: so it's racism real. And this is again, this is

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Speaker 1: what I go I go through deep in my book

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Speaker 1: for nothing is it's a certain degree we're shooting ourselves

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Speaker 1: in the foot. Now. Racism is absolutely real. Racism like rain,

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Speaker 1: it's either falling in place or gathering. Okay, Mike, unbrolling

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Speaker 1: the color you're like and start scrolling through it because

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change with you, so you must. But

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Speaker 1: why does our Nigerian black friends come here and kill

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Speaker 1: it in three years? Why do our Ethiopian black friends

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Speaker 1: are are you know, Jamaican black friends come here, they're

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Speaker 1: blacker than us. They come here and they and they

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Speaker 1: in three years they own the whatever little you know,

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Speaker 1: three three three uber cars they own all get a

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Speaker 1: replication as a as a hard worker, a person who's

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Speaker 1: willing to hold down fifteen jobs. And that's what you

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01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, nine to five, five to nine,

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Speaker 1: nine to nine, twenty four hours day, learn how to

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Speaker 1: use each hour. And that's what black people are not

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Speaker 1: being being, not taking that mantle of accepting that you know,

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Speaker 1: we're willing to work hard to achieve our dreams. Where

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Speaker 1: the mantle in the streets is that black people are lazy.

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Speaker 1: Black people always looking for handouts. Where when you say,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about Africans or you talking about Jamaican

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Speaker 1: from the Caribbean and all these other people who look

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Speaker 1: like us tend to come over here and accept the

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Speaker 1: accept criticism. They walk through that you can criticize me,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna stop me for my dreams. And that's

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Speaker 1: all you're saying right now is that we have to

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Speaker 1: sticky notes, email alerts, a string around your finger. They're

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Speaker 1: see the true magic of a forest. It's a storybook

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Speaker 1: world for them. You look and see a tree. They

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Speaker 1: see the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms outstretched

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Speaker 1: to the sky. They see treasure and pebbles. They see

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Speaker 1: a windy path that could lead to adventure, and they

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Speaker 1: see you. They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? Find

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Speaker 1: a forest near you and start exploring a Discover the

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Speaker 1: Forest dot org brought to you by the United States

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Speaker 1: Forest Service and the ad Council. And we're live here

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Speaker 1: outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the And

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Speaker 1: there they go, almost on time. This morning. Mom is

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Speaker 1: coming out the front door strong with a double armed

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Speaker 1: kid carry looks like dad has the bags. Daughter is

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: bringing up the rear. Oh, but the diaper bag wasn't closed.

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Speaker 1: Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh, but mom has just

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Speaker 1: nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. And

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Speaker 1: now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about nine

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Speaker 1: or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat dead

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Speaker 1: zips the bad clothes and they're off. But looks like

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Speaker 1: Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on the

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Speaker 1: roof of the car and there it goes. Oh, that's

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01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't sweat

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Speaker 1: the small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like making

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Speaker 1: sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right seat

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Speaker 1: for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t s

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Speaker 1: A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n h

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Speaker 1: s A dot gov slash the Right Seat brought to

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Speaker 1: you by NITZA and the ad Council, the mindset, and

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Speaker 1: also be willing to say that's not me. Let me

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Speaker 1: show you who I am. That's correct. Wow, John, come on, man,

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01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: keep talking. You preaching that not one, not one. Myself

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01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: worth and self esteem depends on your acceptions of me.

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 1: That's Quincy Jones. Is not what people call you, is

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01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: what you answer to That's important. Never ever answer out

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: of your name that's dr that's Dr c. Shild Murray,

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: First David Church in Los Angeles. Uh, life is not

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: what life does, to use how you respond to it.

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: That's me. I take no pro vitamins. Okay, that's me.

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: You know. And an entrepreneur works eighteen hours they to

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: keep in getting you a job. That's me. You know. Uh,

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: you know, success is going from failure to failure without

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: loss of enthusiasm. That's me. The point is that you've

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: got to have the right mental uh recruitment and mental

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: activity and mental and mental standing of mental and mental

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: tight atunement. You gotta be teen to succeed. So this

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Speaker 1: in the book I talk I talked about this this

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Speaker 1: U I make the story real quick. But this guy,

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Speaker 1: Mike Maples, I was saying, you know, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the top ten digital capitalist and Silicon Valley man, tell

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: me about your story. Oh nothing, he's a just a

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: normal story. I said, didn't ask you that. Tell me

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Speaker 1: your story. He said, where my dad, you know, worked

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Speaker 1: at Michaels. What do you do? Oh, he worked with

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Speaker 1: Doial Games. Okay, everybody worked with dol Gates. Technically, what

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Speaker 1: did your dad do? So it gets around to the

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: short version of the story. He was number three in

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Speaker 1: Microsoft under the Bill Gates to the president of Produnce.

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Speaker 1: So he's a big deal in Microsoft. So he's at

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Speaker 1: home and he started a video game business at thirteen.

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Speaker 1: At sixteen was fairly successful. So he goes to his

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Speaker 1: dad and he says this, Hey, Dad, I think about

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Speaker 1: selling this company to Disney. Now. Uh, you and me,

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Speaker 1: if we had a child or even a fifty year

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Speaker 1: old cousin who said that, we would be sean, we

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Speaker 1: would be applauding them. Right, Okay, they started this business

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Speaker 1: against they got the audacity to say, you're gonna set

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Speaker 1: up the Disney So United agreement. We'd be applauding that, correct. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The father said, I'm ashamed of you. The father told

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Speaker 1: mikeel Lagel Jr. I'm ashamed of you. We don't think

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: like that in our household, and lou Mike was what

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Speaker 1: do you mean that, he said, young man, in our

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Speaker 1: house sold, We don't we don't follow the agenda. We

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: said it. You're not gonna use your company to be

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: to to be sold to Disney. You're gonna use your

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01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: company to buy Disney. Now now, now it doesn't matter

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: whether the kid was gonna buy Disney or not, it's relevant.

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: The point is that now the kid thinks he can

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Speaker 1: buy Disney. Yes, yes, so the kids. So the kid

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Speaker 1: grew up to be somebody who who is now one

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Speaker 1: of the top ten venture capitalist in Silicon Valley, who's

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Speaker 1: financing everybody else's dreams of people who believe they can

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Speaker 1: buy Disney or build Disney. My point is we've got

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: to get our head. We've been we've been sucker punch Man.

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01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: As a group of people, we are brilliant, we are amazing. Again,

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Speaker 1: look at the arts and look at sports where we

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: have that confident, that self esteem, and we got all

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01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: the tools right, we kill it. We've been killing it

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: in F one racing now, I mean, what the NASCAR,

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: if one raising Tennis of it? We all all, uh,

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: but but no one stopped to give us the rules

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Speaker 1: of the game. And you're trying to unpack that. I'm

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01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: dealing with the book up from nothing, the work of

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Speaker 1: Operation Hope, the financial coaching sessions in states of Operation Hope,

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Speaker 1: the work of one Million Black Business Initiative, the thought

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Speaker 1: leadership of the of the New Marshal Plan. I believe

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Speaker 1: this is the third reconstruction. Right now, two things before

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Speaker 1: before we wrap up here. Uh One, I want to

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Speaker 1: make a statement about how can people participate in the

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: one MBB because you can search, you can go on

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Speaker 1: Google to type it in. But I want to make

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Speaker 1: a statement about when you said his dad said, looks

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Speaker 1: on you should want to buy Disney because you look

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Speaker 1: at YouTube when they sold, they thought they were selling

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Speaker 1: for a lot of money. But then you look at

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Speaker 1: what YouTube is now when they look back, they go, wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: why did I tell that? Okay? And you didn't even

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Speaker 1: go to to the selling the b T that was

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Speaker 1: a lot of But when you look at what when

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Speaker 1: you look at what, what the infrastructure of content, the

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Speaker 1: infrastructure of streaming, how people are, how black content is

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Speaker 1: residing in the nationwide, the value or BT is phenomenal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what he's saying makes sense. You can shut you can.

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Speaker 1: You're just short selling your dream for a quick check.

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: That check may have millions attached to a billions at

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: check to it. But son, a young lady, look at

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Speaker 1: the future. When when Bob Iger bought Marvel, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see why he bought Marvel. Look at Marvel now,

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Speaker 1: the biggest franchise a universe. Now DC is trying to implement,

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: you know, trying to trying to copy. I should say

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Speaker 1: what Marvel has accomplished with that franchise. So it's the

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Speaker 1: visionary part that we are lacking in the black community.

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: We have to become visionaries, not just visionary in the church.

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Speaker 1: Because we got that locked, we got the we got

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01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: the Bible long lock. But from a business fact, if

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Speaker 1: we don't have that on the lock, because we tend

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01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: to pray too much and we tend to hope for

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Speaker 1: opportunity instead of creed and change. That's what you're talking

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Speaker 1: about with your whole platform, correct, John Well. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to continue to pray, but I wanted also to be doctor.

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Dr Dorothy Height said, you need to be a dreaming

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01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: with a shovel in your hand. And we've got to

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: be as as expert in the sweets as we are

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01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: in the streets. I mean, we're expert at protesting and marching,

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01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: but that doesn't pay a bill. Being angry to your

1404
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: neighbor doesn't make you any wealthier. You got to move

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: from the streets to the suite. So three years ago,

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: we don't we don't we run on the time. I

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Speaker 1: know three years ago maybe you'd come back. In your

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: show three years ago, we got you gotta first, John,

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: you gotta come back because I knew nothing about the book.

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01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: This interview was set up to talk about the one MBB.

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: So I wanted because the end of the year. We're

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: in November right now, So I want to bring back

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01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: in December because I've read every book that comes to me,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be buying your book to read it, because

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: I think that's a great book for us to use.

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: The launch a lunch of program with one should feel

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: be like for young entrepreneurs. But continue your thought. Yeah,

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: so I'll be happy to come back. But the three

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: years ago I decided for those who still didn't think

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: that what I was saying applies to them all. John,

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: you did that in a nonprofit sectors he had, But

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: I was an entrepreneur before I did. Okay, never minded

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: me to show you. Three years ago I went and

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01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: created a real estate company had no assets zero. Today

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01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: it's the largest minority controlled, institutional quality owner of single

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: family rental homes in America, called the Promise Homes Company.

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Speaker 1: I own a hundred and ten million dollars with the

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Speaker 1: real estate. I didn't say a hundred ten thousand, a

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Speaker 1: hundred ten millions in three years with five percent of

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01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: my time, because I spent most of my time on

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01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: this this this paym your arian operation. Hope it's not

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01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 1: the profit which I loved, but I spend most of

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01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: my time in the community. I built a hundred ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars portfolio in three years part time of seven

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: hundred rental homes, and I'm running it out to my

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01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: people at you know, affordable housing rates twelve dollars and months,

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01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: and I'm building that. The point is, what if everybody

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01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: who's listening to your audio podcast is who watched you

1439
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: your videos. What if they decided to buy three homes

1440
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: over the next three years, one to rent and want

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: to live in, to the buy rehab and rent by

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: rehabbing hold because they aren't growing anymore lands. My first

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: bumps home, they're worth eighty million dollars, then they're worth

1444
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: ninety millions, then ninety I didn't do anything special. Millions,

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01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: hundred millions, now now hundred ten millions. If I keep

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: holding it compounding interests, it's paying for itself. They're paying

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01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: by themselves. With riddle income. The longer I hold it,

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: the longer I keep from cashing out trying to fly.

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01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: The more wealth I create, so uh and the more

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: well I create, the more contracts I can give the

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01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: black percent of my vendors are black, So the landscaper's roofers,

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: lighting companies, of painting companies. Uh, I meaned. So the

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01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: bigger I grow the portfolio, the more home by, the

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01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: more living way jobs I can provide, the more contracts

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01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: I can let to black ole businesses, the more wealthy

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01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: you create. Absolutely, how can I participate in the one

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01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: MBB program? John they go to They start by saying,

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm chicking tired of this sicking tired. You go to

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01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Hope put that on the mirror, but they put that

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01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: mantra on your mirror. I'm sick and tired of being

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: sticking ties because you got to start somewhere, and you

1462
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: have to believe that's why you want to do it.

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01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people don't understand the amount of

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: work that's tired. I always tell people or for the

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: our week job, it's just preparation for you to be

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. So stop complaining by what a person is

1467
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: asking you do for that is a week. Master it

1468
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: and once you master it, then you can become an

1469
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: entrepreneur because you understand how to do business and want

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: you understand what it means to be a professional. Yeah,

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: and understand another good comes easy. So there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very tough day. You want to do this thing we're

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01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: talking about here. Understand that love is work. Non love

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01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: is laziness, n anti love is evil. Evil exists with

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Speaker 1: back to money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is Jilly Moore. She's a musician, actor, dancing, model,

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Speaker 1: I released book which you mean this, you know, the

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Speaker 1: social media and digital all that good stuff. Her cookbook

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Speaker 1: influencer and has over half million YouTube subscribers. We'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about the cookbook, upcoming music projects. She can sing,

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Speaker 1: I already said that she can dance, already said that

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Speaker 1: making conversation. I'm gonna calling my friend Jilly Moore. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. How about Houston? I start born and raised

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Speaker 1: in Houston. Okay, we're part of Houston. Are you're living

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Speaker 1: in right now? All your well? Okay, so I am.

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Speaker 1: Actually I currently live in Los Angeles, California. That conversation, yes, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, all right, j Let's do all right now.

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Speaker 1: You know I know about Paralleta there, Okay, great, that's

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Speaker 1: part of Houston, one of the fastest growing subdivisions all

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Speaker 1: of Smith's cities in the Houston market. That's what she's

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Speaker 1: said okay, but she's balling it on Los Angeles. That's

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Speaker 1: where the career moves are happened. It's not happening in Houston.

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Speaker 1: I'm not living in Houstonia. I live in Houston, got

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Speaker 1: a home there, but I live in Atlanta. I've lived

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Speaker 1: in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. Now, where do you

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Speaker 1: live in the area? Don't want, don't want no little

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Speaker 1: stalkers to find out about you? What area Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: you've residing in? Jim Glendae, Okay, I'm not there right now.

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Speaker 1: I actually just got back. Um. I always come for

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Speaker 1: the games here in Houston. But now we said we

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Speaker 1: weren't going right. You blew it already. I said this interview,

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Speaker 1: we weren't gonna say nothing about that quarterback bar friend

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Speaker 1: of you. But up out of your mouth. I always

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Speaker 1: come back for the game. Why are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: it like that just about you. I'm letting you know

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Speaker 1: the only reason why my dad keeps hopping up in

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Speaker 1: the background is because I have business to handle with

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Speaker 1: my book today. So I'm at my parents house right now.

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Speaker 1: So it's a whole lot, a whole lot. So I'm

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Speaker 1: explaining to you why I'm not currently in Glendale, California. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: Now it's been a big shutdown. You know, the COVID

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Speaker 1: hit everybody, and uh and so how did that? How

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Speaker 1: does that affected you? Because you you know, the social

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Speaker 1: media YouTube describers, you are obviously a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of live productions you just of paiding in twenty

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Speaker 1: but they all went away. How did that impact you?

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Speaker 1: You know? But the grist of God, I think, um,

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Speaker 1: it kind of motivated me. I don't think it impacted me, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, as much as it did impact some people.

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Speaker 1: But of course some projects were put on a little

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Speaker 1: it gave room for other projects to grow and expand.

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Speaker 1: So honestly, in the midst of it, COVID was bussing

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Speaker 1: in disguise. For me, I got to spend a lot

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Speaker 1: more undivided time with my family and my loved ones,

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Speaker 1: and I became an author during so treated me pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of you know, I couldn't say the

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Speaker 1: same thing when it when it hit in March. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna just tell you, Jilly and I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to react to it. You know, they're talking about because

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Speaker 1: nobody knew about COVID ninteen and I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: still knows about it. The fact that they have a

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Speaker 1: vaccine coming, we all are happy about that. I got

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Speaker 1: wrong with the home depot the first time I went out.

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Speaker 1: I had my gloves, I had my peril. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even have a mask at the time. I had like

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 1: a ski mask, I like pool and so I came

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Speaker 1: out of home deeper. I didn't know if I should

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01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: touch the door. I didn't know when to put the

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: hands out. It was really was a confusing time for me.

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01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: How did you How did it play out for you?

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01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Are Are you comfortable now that you've develop a line

1655
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: of how you can participate in everyday life? How did

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Speaker 1: that lay out for you? Jilly? I mean, I've always

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01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: been kind of like a germaphobe and a germ freak,

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01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: so that kind of really only enhanced it. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you have to you

1660
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: can't just be afraid of life. You can't be afraid

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Speaker 1: of living, you know. I know at one point traveling

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01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: was really really scary, you know, going on planes and

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Speaker 1: especially being in a tube where that you can't just

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Speaker 1: let the window down or anything. But I mean, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you can't just be, you know, scared.

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01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: You can't let COVID completely just stop you. You just can't.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, don't get me wrong, my precautions are

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01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: on a whole another level. I am definitely I have

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Speaker 1: probably with four hand sanitizers in my purse right now.

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Speaker 1: I have, I carry my mask. I have two masks

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Speaker 1: in my purse, two in the car. You won't catch

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Speaker 1: me like without it. You know. That's just first and

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Speaker 1: foremost really, because I just I went to l A

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Speaker 1: a week ago, my first time officially flying since the COVID.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so you know, you know, so, so

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Speaker 1: I got on the plane. You know, I have a man.

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Speaker 1: I had, like, I like, like four disposable masks. I

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Speaker 1: had a mask when I went through uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: t s A. Then I had a mask I used

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Speaker 1: on the plane through those away when I landed right

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Speaker 1: and then I had my other disposable man pull that

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01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: bad ball out. So I went around the l A

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01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 1: all day. I was in and out in l A.

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01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: And then I got back on the plane, put my

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01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: travel mask on through that bad boy away because I

1686
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: like safe. This sorry, you know, and I will tell

1687
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: you this is that I was very comfortable or just

1688
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: telling everybody to know there's a big crisis right now,

1689
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: telling people not to travel, not to travel, not to travel.

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01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: But I do believe, and I have to say this

1691
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 1: that we have to learn to live with this crisis

1692
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: and we can't shut down our life. You know, of course,

1693
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: being precautions, like even when I am on the plane,

1694
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: I for sure I take a few of my wife's,

1695
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: my sanitizer wives. I wipe down. I'm not playing. I

1696
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: wipe down the armrest, a little button to recline the thing.

1697
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: I wipe down the front just in case somebody had

1698
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: like sneeze on the TV or whatever. I wipe that down.

1699
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: I wipe down a little window sides where you pull

1700
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: it up and down. I'm not playing. So I'm definitely,

1701
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: like I said, precaution is a little bit more out there,

1702
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: but I'm not. There's just different thing about you, Jill.

1703
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,520
Speaker 1: You come you have a sisse of person, of personality,

1704
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: a sitcoms in your future. Because I see the word acting,

1705
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: I see drone because you're funny. Now you you have

1706
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: a you have a sis of person you have a

1707
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: personality that that that pops off the screen because hard

1708
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: hit him up for me, Now, I'm just kidding, because

1709
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: you have an edge, which which is a good edge

1710
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: because when you're talking you can be serious, but they

1711
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: come across as humorous because when you're talking about wipe

1712
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: out if they're the button, side button, the look, the

1713
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: look little TV in front of you and all that

1714
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: to what is the acting? What is the acting plan

1715
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: for you? You know, um and acting? I think right now,

1716
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: especially with COVID, a lot of things kind of not

1717
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: only got pushed back, but you have to realize with acting,

1718
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot of physical contact. It's a lot of

1719
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, in your face. And that's one thing that

1720
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: prior to all of this, I was really comfortable with

1721
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: if I had to do like a scene of any

1722
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: sort of play that boyfriend girlfriend role, I was very

1723
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Now I'm not so sure. So like you know,

1724
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: my music pushing that, this cookbook pushing that. I don't

1725
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: know if I want to be love you w in

1726
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the scene right now with somebody because I don't know

1727
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: who's going on. That's right there, funny, see right there,

1728
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: you are funny, You're crazy girl. You're funny. So let's

1729
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: go over to the cookbooks. You know, there was something

1730
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: that popped out in COVID twenty and you didn't have

1731
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: plans on cooking the cook doing a cookbook and t

1732
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: but your time on your hand. Now I'm the first,

1733
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, because people always look at me. I'm I'm

1734
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: an award winning baker, and every pole people look at me.

1735
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: You you baker. You can bake? They always questioned me.

1736
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: They always questioned whether or not I can bake? Okay,

1737
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: And if I think it's just go to my social media,

1738
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, let to tell my story. I get you

1739
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: hungry when you go to my social media. Now a

1740
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: little miss fitness guru, little miss six pank, little mi

1741
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, do it be? Is he mean? Little miss

1742
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: YouTube subscriber, little miss so you media influencer. Then you're

1743
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: gonna drop a loop book cook book. Let's just stick

1744
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: with the cook book because you got the look book

1745
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: part that there ain't nobody gonna argue about that, the

1746
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: look book you got. Let's go over to the cook

1747
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: book side. Talk to me that you're a girl. So

1748
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: with the cookbook. Um, I mean, cooking has really just

1749
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: always been in my family. I am of Creole descent.

1750
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: My all my families from Louisiana. My brother, me and

1751
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: my mom are the only ones who are actually originally

1752
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 1: from Houston, born raised. But um, I mean it's always

1753
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: been my family growing up. For the holidays, we had

1754
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: more food than people. He literally had tripled the amount

1755
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: of food. My grandmother was always in the kitchen as

1756
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: well as my mom. Even with my dad. My dad

1757
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: has his fair share of He's really a baker. My

1758
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: dad is a fire baker. But he's even got into

1759
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: really like you like you, um, but he's got into

1760
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: like his oxtails and you know, just making different stuff.

1761
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: And so I just grew up in a family of

1762
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: chefs and you know, really home chefs, and um. Over quarantine,

1763
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,719
Speaker 1: I would cook a lot, like cook a lot quarantine.

1764
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 1: I did I gained like I've lost. No, I actually

1765
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: did not gain the way in quarantine. No. I think

1766
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: too is just like, of course, a mixture of working

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01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: out and then I even though like these meals, I

1768
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: think it's all in proportion of what you eat as well.

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01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: So I can eat all this stuff. But granted I'm

1770
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: not eating like three refilled plates, you know. But I

1771
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: mean at the beginning of quite exactly, I'm not, but

1772
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: at the beginning of quarantine, Um, I just started cooking

1773
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: and like playing with food. I would make booty and

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01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 1: stuff chicken. I would make um shrump, ravioli, just stuff

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Speaker 1: the sky. They see treasure and pebbles. They see a

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Speaker 1: windy path that could lead to adventure, and they see you.

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1795
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Speaker 1: in the forest are in imagination a sense of one

1796
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Speaker 1: day and our family bonds grow too, because when we

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Speaker 1: Forest Service and the AD Council. Boot. See, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: give me mad either, gonna give me mad because I

1803
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: can't get near you, Okay because boot and you just

1804
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: can't throw out the word boot and see. The crazy

1805
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: thing is, people don't even know what booty and is.

1806
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,759
Speaker 1: People don't know about gumbo, and people don't know about

1807
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: this stuff. So it's really amazing to, like, you know,

1808
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: bring people into my culture, my heritage. So let's talk

1809
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: about the boodan now the boot and now I do

1810
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: I do dirty rice? Okay, I know about Boodand let's

1811
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: say you know I'm from the country a little bit

1812
01:38:54,880 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: my parents kill hall, bring a hog home those at

1813
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: hall when it black people go around the whole really

1814
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: should just start cray because everything is edible. Everything is

1815
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: edible or out of hall. So talk about you putting

1816
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 1: together this booting. What is the process? You know? Okay?

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01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: So for my boot and stuff chicken. The crazy thing is,

1818
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I only did forty five recipes in here. So even

1819
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the recipes now are gonna be in

1820
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 1: cookbook number two. But even with the booty, and it's

1821
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: just like I you know how it's like in the

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01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: little paper rice, I slice it open, I take the

1823
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: rice part out, mush it all up, um in my chicken.

1824
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 1: After I season it, I put the dirty rice inside

1825
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 1: the chicken and I roll it up, put a toothpick

1826
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,680
Speaker 1: in there, um, drizzle some garlic, butter or whatever I'm

1827
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 1: putting on top of it. Put it in the oven

1828
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: for a good thirty so minutes. And I tell you, jelly,

1829
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: So you you add sophistication to the Now you know

1830
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: that ain't no, that ain't no country. That ain't country. Well,

1831
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's country mixed with my modern days. That's

1832
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 1: the beauty of your book. Now you're taking a little

1833
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: country bringing it forward because you know when you say boods,

1834
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: crackers and budd and that standard black folks talk. Now

1835
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: you and as garlic butters drisually right there, she said,

1836
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: sliding in the other scam me, girl, scamed me. Now

1837
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: you scare me over here. Now, No, it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Absolutely.

1838
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: So you say this is cookbook one and that cookbook too.

1839
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about your social media, which is phenomenal,

1840
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I always tell people at social media

1841
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: is interesting because you know, people follow you because they

1842
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: either want to be like you, or you emotionally give

1843
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 1: something to them that they feel they will miss, or

1844
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: you provide information. Why do you think you have such

1845
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 1: a strong social media fan base? I mean I just

1846
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: think me my personality. I think people fell in love

1847
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 1: with who Jilly is. I feel like people fell in

1848
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: love with who jilling In is as well. Um, you know,

1849
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: just throughout social media, I've showed a lot of my personality.

1850
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I've let people into my life, um at all. At

1851
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: times it was like a little bit personal as well,

1852
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: which is why I feel like my fan base connected

1853
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 1: to me so well. They have experienced you know, journeys

1854
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: with me. They have gone through some ups and downs.

1855
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: They have gone through a little bit of backing away

1856
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 1: from Instagram and noticing that I hadn't posted in a while,

1857
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: or noticing my absence and you know, being concerned. And

1858
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,799
Speaker 1: so I think that's when, like, you have an extreme

1859
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 1: fan base, it's just so awesome that you know, people

1860
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: relate to it. People um got connected with me, you know,

1861
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: and it's been a few years now, but at the

1862
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's just like so strong till

1863
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: this day. I mean it never you never really realized

1864
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 1: how much people support you until it comes to things

1865
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: like items you're selling. And with my cookbook, it was

1866
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: just so amazing because when I tell you the the

1867
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: outpour of love and then just to actually see it

1868
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: in sales was just like so just honestly mind blowing.

1869
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: It was really really mind blowing. And I don't want

1870
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 1: to say like I was shocked, but sometimes you are shocked.

1871
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 1: You're shocked that people actually put in their credit card

1872
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: information to support you, you know. So I think it

1873
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: was just such a blessing. And that was one of

1874
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: my most recent realizing moments of how my fan base,

1875
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 1: my social media, how impactful it is, you know, to

1876
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: my actual life. Well, that's that's that's really interesting because

1877
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: of the fact that you opted to do you know,

1878
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: digital that format versus going to a book company like

1879
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: a Harper Collins or Simon Schuster. Now, is it any

1880
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: reason for that? Because you have the brand to be

1881
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: able to do that. You got the social media follower

1882
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: you got the YouTube followers. So I'm sure any any

1883
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: major book company would want to publish your book any reason.

1884
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, I wasn't opposed to it,

1885
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 1: but I think I just wanted to do self publishing

1886
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: because you know, I think most people pay to have

1887
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Speaker 1: a brand like I do. Most people pay to have

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Speaker 1: like an outreach or an outlet like I do. So

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, for me, just being able to

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Speaker 1: self publish my book and be the publisher of my

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Speaker 1: book and put it out and not have to make

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Speaker 1: a dollar off of a book that I've spent literally

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Speaker 1: so much on not only in the making, but my

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Speaker 1: book is what thirty dollars and then only make a

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Speaker 1: dollar from it. I just I didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to receive all my profit. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: you know, really, I wanted this first book to be

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Speaker 1: my baby. I want to book companies and everyone just

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Speaker 1: to really see what I can do on my own.

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Speaker 1: So you know, when Cookbook slash Lookbook number two comes out,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need that advance like way bigger. There you go.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I love talking to you, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I always tell people when young people figured out,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you figured it out, this is your brand,

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Speaker 1: you building it. You are your CEO or your company.

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Speaker 1: What is your company? And you are entrepreneur And so

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Speaker 1: that's what excites me about talking to a person like

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Speaker 1: you who it's not about your looks, it's about your brains.

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Speaker 1: It's driving your next step, your next financial opportunity, your

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Speaker 1: next career move. Talk about your company and talk about

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Speaker 1: your brain. Absolutely, so everything is Jillianese. I think my

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Speaker 1: own um. Finding a brand that suited me was so

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Speaker 1: easy because it's me. It's literally so jillian Nie is

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Speaker 1: my brand, Jilliannie is my company, and everything follows under that.

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Speaker 1: And it just has several outlets. It's literally like a spiderweb.

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Speaker 1: Jillianese is in the middle. And it's music, it's dancing,

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Speaker 1: it's acting, it's cookbook, it's look book, it's fashion, it's fitness,

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Speaker 1: is family. It's like never ending, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the most amazing thing because it all coincides with Jillianie.

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Speaker 1: It's literally who I am. It's who I am growing

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Speaker 1: to be. So I think even when I did a

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Speaker 1: project like this, I think my main focus was to

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Speaker 1: let people know, you know, I'm not a person who

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Speaker 1: is a chef who's gonna open up a restaurant next week. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's not my intent. My intent is literally every time

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Speaker 1: I cook or post something on Instagram, people are like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, can you send this plate in the mail?

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Speaker 1: Like what is this recipe? And you know, I take

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Speaker 1: the feedback from people. People are like, well, how do

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Speaker 1: you stay so fit? Well? I do work out, So

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Speaker 1: here's me working out. Well, how do you also dance

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Speaker 1: like this? Well, I mean I was a dancer for

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Speaker 1: ten years of my life growing up, really fifteen years

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Speaker 1: in my life growing up. And it's just like everything

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Speaker 1: deductible may apply. Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald. When you when you talk about

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Speaker 1: that because It's really interesting because having you on my

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Speaker 1: show Money Making Conversation dot Com one of the reasons,

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Speaker 1: because you know, there are a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: want to be Jilly Okay, you know they're they're about

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Speaker 1: your hide, they're they're they're attractive like you, they have

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Speaker 1: hair and nice shape. But you've crossed the line of

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Speaker 1: leaving your competitors behind and you have a plan for

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Speaker 1: being successful in the future. What is the separating line?

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Speaker 1: You know, because condations separate themselves, and you're saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: just being very real with you. You are separating yourself.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't have a hit TV show on

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Speaker 1: you don't have a hit single out there, but you

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Speaker 1: are growing and you're very popular and social media has

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Speaker 1: made you a very viable media star because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you you don't need to go the radio to drop

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Speaker 1: your book. You just dropped your book and guess what

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Speaker 1: started dropping credit cards from your competition. I think just honestly,

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Speaker 1: never dwelling and staring away from God's plan. I'm a big,

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Speaker 1: big believer in my faith, and I just know that

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Speaker 1: no matter what whatever God has planned for me, it's unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know I would be putting out a book.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't I couldn't tell you at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of this year where this year would lead me.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think it's just a matter of

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Speaker 1: my faith. I I never grow weary, I never, you know,

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Speaker 1: stop believing God's plan for me. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the ultimate thing. I'm my biggest competition is myself. I

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Speaker 1: just want to do better than I did yesterday. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to compete with anyone else. I don't even

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Speaker 1: look at anybody else's direction. I am really big on

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Speaker 1: congratulating my peers, supporting my peers. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: as long as you are genuine, as long as you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you could look at

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Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror and know that everything you're doing

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Speaker 1: is genuine. You're plan like your path is gonna come.

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Speaker 1: Your path is unstoppable. Well, you are definitely unstoppable. You're

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Speaker 1: on your on your bio came out and said the

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Speaker 1: six els of jelly. Okay, I'm assuming that's a brand.

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Speaker 1: Part of your brand. You sat down and said, faith, family, food, fitness, fashion,

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Speaker 1: and fun. I'm gonna go to each one. Then, well,

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Speaker 1: then I want to go back to the cookbook and

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Speaker 1: want you to pull me through your favorite recipes, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna close it out, alright. The Sixths of Jilly,

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Speaker 1: you know, not residing in Glendale, California. She's a star,

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Speaker 1: not a star on the ride. She is a real star,

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Speaker 1: social media star, YouTuber. She's a she's a Dad's Us singer,

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Speaker 1: She's an all around superstar Jilly. This is Roshan McDow.

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Speaker 1: First time I'm interviewing you. I've noticed that your bio

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01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:47,959
Speaker 1: said the sixths of Jelly. Break that down your faith, family, food, fitness,

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Speaker 1: fashion and fun. Let's start with faith. Faith. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big believer in my faith. You know, God comes first,

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Speaker 1: God comes before it all. You know, without him, none

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Speaker 1: of it's possible. And I don't just say that, I

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Speaker 1: stand by that. I wake up every morning and I pray.

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Speaker 1: I pray with my family, so twice the morning, once

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Speaker 1: um once I wake up once again with my family.

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Speaker 1: We have a group message where my dad sends his

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Speaker 1: prayers every single morning, NonStop, then again once before I

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Speaker 1: go to sleep. And you know, just throughout the day,

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Speaker 1: I just know that no matter what, without my faith,

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Speaker 1: without knowing who my God is just none of this

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Speaker 1: would be possible. And you know, just always giving praise

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Speaker 1: to the Highest, praise to the you know, everything that

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Speaker 1: I go through, everything through the good and bad, I

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Speaker 1: just never stop saying thank you. I never not make

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Speaker 1: time for that, you know. So I think with faith

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Speaker 1: it just has to do with growing up with my

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Speaker 1: family who instilled that. You know, God is love. God

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Speaker 1: is everything. So with um, with God is love, I

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Speaker 1: just know that no matter what, every success I owe

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Speaker 1: it to Him. So that's where faith comes from. And

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Speaker 1: now on the family side, it was talking about the

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Speaker 1: recipes and the book their generalship, you know, because we

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Speaker 1: talked about family little bit in faith. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about family when it comes to the food and your

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Speaker 1: whole life. Family. You know, family when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the food. As you can see in my cookbook, it's

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Speaker 1: very incorporated with my family, and my family is all

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Speaker 1: throughout it. My family is literally I want to see

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Speaker 1: if I can just quickly, I can even show you

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Speaker 1: here's a picture right here with my dad, this picture

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Speaker 1: like my mom and my grandmother. It's just you know,

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Speaker 1: family is a big part of my life. If you ever,

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01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, have seen me here's my mom and my

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Speaker 1: grandmother throughout it. My brother is in here somewhere. Just

2044
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Speaker 1: I mean, people who watch me, people who have been

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01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: following me all these years, they know that my family

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Speaker 1: is my everything. You know, my family is literally all

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Speaker 1: I have. It's literally my mom, my dad, my brother, um,

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Speaker 1: and my grandmother. It's us five and we have We're small,

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Speaker 1: but we're mighty. We are small, but we're mighty. And

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's kind of a second, it's

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Speaker 1: not even a really a thought. It's just like, my

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Speaker 1: family is my everything. I don't even want to I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's just so I don't even know like

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Speaker 1: how to tell you nothing would be possible without my

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Speaker 1: family there my backbones. They have me more than anybody

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Speaker 1: in this world. And you know, it kind of gets

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Speaker 1: like emotional to talk about it. But my mom, my dad,

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Speaker 1: my brother, and my grandmother, the way we support one another,

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Speaker 1: the way we love one another, I just know that

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Speaker 1: if everything were to go wrong in this world, their

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Speaker 1: doors will always be open. And you know, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: I can be my true self around them. They'll never

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Speaker 1: judge me and they love me and support me through everything.

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Speaker 1: So family is a very you know, touchy but strong

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Speaker 1: subject to me cool. I'm gonna combinde too of the

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Speaker 1: else food and fitness, you know, food and fitness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so with dude, So with food and fitness. You know,

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Speaker 1: in this cookbook there's a lot of like happy healthy

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Speaker 1: mill not really healthy but happy, you know, good rinching botery,

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Speaker 1: buttery with salt mills. So I'm telling people abs are

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Speaker 1: not included in this book. That the body is not included,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that's why I wanted to make sure

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01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 1: I could buying food and fitness because they are separate

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Speaker 1: in your in your where you're laying out, but you

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Speaker 1: are dealing with a book that, like you said, uh,

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01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: has grown folks food in that book right there. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's some real food up in there,

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Speaker 1: you know, shrimp, the jumbo shrump up in there and

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Speaker 1: looking good at there. And so now the part of

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Speaker 1: the book that really are really made me really caught

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Speaker 1: my eye with the look book part, the look book cookbook.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm maybe I've missed something, but I've never seen

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Speaker 1: that before, and it's so strict talk about the fashion

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01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: and the look book part. I mean, here's even just one.

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01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: This is like a verscatchy look with that I did. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think it came second natured to me because I

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01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: mean I love fashion, I love style. I love I

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01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: feel like every day it's a fashion show. And you know,

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01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: for me, like I said, I'm not a person who

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Speaker 1: just sits in the kitchen and just like cooks and

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Speaker 1: that's not what I do. I'm not sixty years old

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Speaker 1: putting out a cookbook and have twenty kids and it's

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 1: just all about recipes. I mean, I wanted it to

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Speaker 1: be true to my brand, true to my image, and

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Speaker 1: my image is I literally will be in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: fully clothed like this, cooking dinner and that's what you're

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Speaker 1: coming home to. I mean, I just wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be a part of really who I am, and

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Speaker 1: I love fashion. So I was like, how can I

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Speaker 1: really incorporate this to not only make it like a cookbook,

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Speaker 1: but make it so true to me yet so fun

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Speaker 1: yet so different that hasn't been done. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: big person on doing things that haven't been done. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to fit in, you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: stand out always, and I think doing a cookbook slash

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Speaker 1: lookbook and having a different look for every single meal.

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Speaker 1: It's never been done, and I just can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see everyone who tries to copy it. Now. Well, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you something. It's the first. Now fun I

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Speaker 1: I said that from the very beginning, that you are

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Speaker 1: a comedic actress. You know, uh, you have a sitcom

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Speaker 1: skill because I would tell people can do drama, but

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Speaker 1: being a funny person, being a sitcom that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a talent, that's a skill set it what does this

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Speaker 1: fun personality? And let me ask you this, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of times people see you on your social media,

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Speaker 1: they see your TV, they see this upbeat person. When

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Speaker 1: do you shut it down? Because I will tell you

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Speaker 1: I was just all the time. Steve Harvey or Kevin

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Speaker 1: hard they always think they should be funny all the time.

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Speaker 1: They cannot be funny all the time. When do you

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Speaker 1: shut it down? When does this fun person shut it down?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it ever shuts down. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: just fine seven. I think I am just an awesome, delightful,

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Speaker 1: always waking up in a great movie person. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think I didn't come to my family. It goes again,

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Speaker 1: It just plays, it goes again with my family, and

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Speaker 1: my family is fun. My family exudes fun. You come

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Speaker 1: around us, there's never a dull moment, and it really

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Speaker 1: is never a dull moment. I mean, you know, of

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Speaker 1: course I'm human. I get in my feelings sometimes too,

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Speaker 1: But around my family, you better be in them feelings

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Speaker 1: for two minutes or less because after a second, everyone's

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Speaker 1: gonna be looking at she's just crazy. So I mean

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Speaker 1: when I tell you, just with my family, you can't

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Speaker 1: be in a bad mood for long. You know, Um,

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Speaker 1: fun is just our life. Fun is our lifestyle. Life

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Speaker 1: is too short. We really my mom and my dad

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Speaker 1: have done a great job with just always saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't stay mad for too long. You don't stay

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Speaker 1: in a mad place for too long. You get over it.

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Speaker 1: You get over it, you start something new. Every hour

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Speaker 1: is a new hour, you know, just to be fun,

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Speaker 1: have fun in life. You are fun, You're you're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Now a couple of things, you know. I'm putting my

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Speaker 1: I'm putting my casting director, my manager hat on. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if somebody offered you a cooking show, would you do it?

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Speaker 1: I would okay, cool, okay, cool, I would make it

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Speaker 1: my own it wouldn't just be your ordinary there with

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Speaker 1: the april O. Can you gonna you'll be in there cooking.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be real. Now, ain't ibody messing with your

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Speaker 1: your brain? Now we're gonna just the jelly brain. Okay, now, okay,

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Speaker 1: talk show a panel or you want an individual you

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Speaker 1: would you do a panel? Talk show? I would do

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Speaker 1: um both. I would. I love having different opinions um

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Speaker 1: with other people. I love whenever there is a panel

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Speaker 1: of there, you know, big and great co stars. I

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Speaker 1: think it's so amazing to have that different outlook, especially

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Speaker 1: with women. I think it's such a great outlook to have,

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Speaker 1: you know, different conversations with a panel of women and

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Speaker 1: just different outlooks on life and different perspectives, as well

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Speaker 1: as doing individually. I mean, I can hold my own show,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, of course I have no doubt. You know,

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Speaker 1: your boy just asking for you know, just laying it out,

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Speaker 1: opportunities and things like that. Absolutely, we love opportunities. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing, I think that's your natural personality. You know,

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Speaker 1: you'll go get it, you know, but you go get

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Speaker 1: it with a plan. And that's what I respect about

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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do and what you're accomplish in

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Speaker 1: a life. But more importantly, you came on money making conversation.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the little book cookbook, The Boss Lady

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Speaker 1: can cook Book. You can cook, my friend. I expect

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Speaker 1: you for that. We were talking the future. I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you. I'm gonna need some things

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Speaker 1: from you, okay when I when I closed this show,

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Speaker 1: because I do want to get it over to you

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Speaker 1: because in this business about relationships, and when I see

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Speaker 1: somebody who's as talented as you, um, I just want

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Speaker 1: to give you a shot. Thank you so much because

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Speaker 1: you work hard. No, I'm just tearing some jelly. You're

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Speaker 1: hard worker. You know you don't get what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: because you know what I like about I have six

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Speaker 1: sisters and I was four twenty four year old daughter, okay,

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Speaker 1: and I love the fact that she's my daughter. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure your father loves the fact that you're his daughter.

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Speaker 1: And you represent a lot of great qualities that I

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Speaker 1: would like my daughter to see and embrace. And she

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Speaker 1: can't sing like you, she can't dance like you, she can't,

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Speaker 1: but she has a great fun personality like you. And

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Speaker 1: she's an incredible academic student. Uh, in game design. But

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Speaker 1: more importantly, you are great young lady, and don't you

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Speaker 1: need Okay, thank you so much. Absolutely, I can't change, can't.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because she's fun in her sleep. Literally literally,

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Speaker 1: I've been the same person for twenty four years. I

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Speaker 1: can't change now. Thank you for coming on making conversations. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Thank you so much. If

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