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Speaker 1: Lay fifteen to ten, touched up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Chargers Weekly, Inside the Bolt with the great

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Speaker 2: Jhaliel a die coming off a win, Jilliel And it

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Speaker 2: was a hard fought win. It was a defensive effort,

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Speaker 2: I'm certain something you can appreciate. It was a desperate

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Speaker 2: Falcons team, and everyone we talked to prior to kick

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Speaker 2: just walking around Mercedes Benz Stadium essentially shared as much

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Speaker 2: that coming off the loss that they had against the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: having two weeks to think about that, knowing that the

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers were surging, that this was going to be a

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Speaker 2: frisky Falcons team and one that was determined to get

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Speaker 2: their season back on track. And you know, the Chargers

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Speaker 2: defense took all those punches and were able to punch

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Speaker 2: back to the tune of a forced fumble and four

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Speaker 2: interceptions and get out of there with a four point victory.

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Speaker 2: It was impressive. I said to DJ, I don't remember,

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Speaker 2: I really don't remember a win like this, just kind

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Speaker 2: of this greedy. They really moved the ball. But then

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Speaker 2: your force turnovers, the offense lowest number of yards since

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, one hundred and eighty seven, When you still

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Speaker 2: get a victory. It was really even though it's a

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Speaker 2: low scoring game, it was really fun to call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I remember a special team coach when I

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Speaker 4: was in the league and would always say, listen, when

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Speaker 4: you go on the road, you have to pack your

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Speaker 4: special teams and you got to pack your defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Chargers did.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, Cameron Dicker came through with those big clutch field

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Speaker 4: goals earlier on in the game. And then when you

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Speaker 4: look at the defense, Look how Tony Jefferson started the

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Speaker 4: game shot out and Tony Jefferson, tenure veteran right was

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Speaker 4: playing when I was playing, still balling Durwin James Elijah

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Speaker 4: was playing well, like the whole secondary. Can't forget Tarhiv Steel,

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Speaker 4: young rookie who's flourishing two interceptions, AFC Player of the

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Speaker 4: Week on the defensive side. So you just love to see,

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Speaker 4: like even though the offense did sputter, they didn't have

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Speaker 4: their best game, special teams and defense came through for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, Marcus may is getting a lot of attention

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Speaker 2: and he should. It's impressive. The guy signs on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: has a single practice on Friday, he goes out there

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Speaker 2: and plays twenty one snaps and ends up getting an interception.

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Speaker 2: That was really the critical play coming off that fake

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Speaker 2: punt that didn't work out to prevent them from getting

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Speaker 2: any points off of that, and we know every point

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Speaker 2: was critical. But I'm gonna start with where or you

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Speaker 2: started in Tony Jefferson, because I remember a presser and

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Speaker 2: I don't remember where we were. I feel like we

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Speaker 2: were on the road though, or maybe it was in

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Speaker 2: training camp. Anyway, Jesse Miner was talking about Tony Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: He's like, it's it's not that he was just out

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Speaker 2: of football last year as a scouting intern and someone

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Speaker 2: just wanted to stay around the game. And he's, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's an incredibly smart guy. You were here in training

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Speaker 2: camp at some of those practices and out on the field,

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Speaker 2: he said, So it's not that he was just doing

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Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty three. He really has not played

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Speaker 2: meaningful football, like, has not been a regular rotation player

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Speaker 4: Yea around twenty twenty one yet, because that was my

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Speaker 4: last season, So that was the last season that Tony was.

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Speaker 1: I think he was in maybe Baltimore at that time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got on with the Giants, but it was late,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of picked up later in the season,

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Speaker 4: and you know, a veteran, you know how it goes

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Speaker 4: a certain age they start to, you know, knock your

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Speaker 4: aide and is it injuries? And so he was game

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Speaker 4: picked up later and then once again he took a

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Speaker 4: come out obviously had that crazy special team sorry preseason game,

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Speaker 4: you know against the Cowboys where he's he solidified his

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Speaker 4: spot on the roster. But Tony's a guy who's been

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Speaker 4: doing it for a long time, same class as me.

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Speaker 4: Came in twenty thirteen, undrafted just like me, and mutual

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Speaker 4: respect I have for his game, on what he does

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Speaker 4: exciting to see him come. He set the tone the

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Speaker 4: second player the game came down. Blew up, blew up,

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Speaker 4: blew him up, blew I love it. I love it,

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Speaker 4: blew him up, made the play, got up, flexing his muscle.

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Speaker 4: I say, yeah, that's a TJF that I know exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I'll ask you, I mean, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you can quantify it. But how hard is that

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Speaker 2: to do because coach, you know, coach is coach, football man,

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Speaker 2: we love Tony, But to me, it seems like that

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Speaker 2: He is their starting defensive tackle and has been this

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Speaker 2: entire season. He had not played in a game in

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Speaker 2: two years. Retired, Yeah, signed with Falcons, retired before the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season. They brought him back in. Kevin

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Speaker 2: King had not played in two years, and he ends

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Speaker 2: up making the stop on the fake punt on special team.

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Speaker 2: The guy had not been out there playing football in

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Speaker 2: two years. And you got three guys in this game

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Speaker 2: an impact in this contest. So how hard is it? Like,

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Speaker 2: how big of a deal is what Tony Jefferson, Because

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how that also played with

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Speaker 2: the rest of the team, what he and Marcus may

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Speaker 2: were able to do out there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think one of the things it was important

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Speaker 4: that he was only out of the game for a year, right,

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Speaker 4: And I'm in San Diego with Tony down in San

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Speaker 4: mutual friends. He was training, right, so he was keeping

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Speaker 4: his body in shape. He was staying tuned up. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that was something that he knew. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give it a second shot. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to come out of retirement. But I know that he

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Speaker 4: was only out of the game for a year.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: If you're out of the game for two to three

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Speaker 1: I'm a friend of mine.

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Speaker 4: Everyone knows Eric Weddle did it for the Rams, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but I think Tony was still around the game. He

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Speaker 4: a beat. He came in in shape. Cardio was there,

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Speaker 4: and obviously physically he's there. How he's built. He's a

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Speaker 4: he's smart as they come. The safety on the defense

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Speaker 4: a long time, like Tony, you've been doing it for

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Speaker 4: a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yea, and so he plays fifty four snaps. Marcus May

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Speaker 2: plays twenty one again. Signed Wednesday practices once on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Some guys haven't even met him yet exactly.

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Speaker 2: Semi betweeted it out, it was funny, I have met

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Speaker 2: this guy yet ends up getting a crucial interception in

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Speaker 2: the end zone. But you combine those seventy five snaps

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Speaker 2: and when you look at the total number of defensive plays,

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Speaker 2: it's eighty one. That means that maybe Derwin James only

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Speaker 2: how valuable he was as a dimebacker, as a line

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Speaker 2: do that if you're Jesse Miner and you know you've

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Speaker 2: got to take explosives out of this. You want to

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Speaker 2: keep everything in front of you. You're playing zone eighty

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Speaker 2: that's maybe what's most overlooked is that if Tony doesn't

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Speaker 2: play those twenty one snaps and Derwin James is not

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Speaker 2: getting those two critical third and one stops, Derwin James

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins happy feet on nearly every drop back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're only allowed to do that with him

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Speaker 4: if you have a third or four safety who you

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Speaker 4: high rate. Right, And even with a Lohi when he

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Speaker 4: was healthy. The third safety that came in was Elijah

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Speaker 4: and he's been balding. He's an unsung hero honestly on

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Speaker 4: So durn playing at the big nickel spot on first down,

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Speaker 4: more and so of a smaller body who's more and

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Speaker 4: so of a corner doesn't like to fit into those

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Speaker 4: Durwin at that nickel spot, teams can't figure out how

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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens use Kyle Hamilton is how they're using

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Speaker 4: Durham James right now. And like you said, you seen

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Speaker 4: him flash on those two third and one stops. Man,

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Speaker 4: it was big time, big time plays during that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I made the joke earlier this week with

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Speaker 2: get off. I mean that that play when he tripped

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Speaker 2: he timed it up. I don't know how he exploded

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It just and it just feels like there's something about

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Speaker 2: way he plays. When he makes those big plays, you

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Speaker 2: can just feel it permeate throughout the rest of the defense.

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Speaker 4: And he's a guy that has to get going early.

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Speaker 4: I remember when I was playing and I would play

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Speaker 4: or four or five six plays or I haven't been touched.

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Speaker 4: I haven't made a tackle yet because I'm playing deep

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, I gotta get my pad said,

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Speaker 4: I got I got to hit somebody.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get going early.

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Speaker 4: So when you play during at close to the line

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Speaker 4: playing the dying position right as a player, he's taking

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Speaker 4: shooting a gap in the second play, so he's getting

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Speaker 4: his feet what he's getting into the groove. I would

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Speaker 4: like to say the game early on, and you've seen

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Speaker 4: that early on from Tony Jefferson Derwin. Obviously those guys

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Speaker 4: the groove, it's hard to stop him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go because obviously it's Chiefs week, so

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Speaker 2: we want to make sure we're looking forward and not

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Speaker 2: looking too far back. But do you think there's so

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Speaker 2: much to unpack? Because you mentioned Elijah and Elijah Molden,

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Speaker 2: it's when you go through the interception. It's fun to

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Speaker 2: watch and I'm so happy you're here because you can

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Speaker 2: kind of share it's such a fast paced game. People

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Speaker 2: don't realize it and it's such a physical game when

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Speaker 2: you're at the when you're on the field, and you're

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Speaker 2: able to feel the violence of that game. It's a

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: They were in a palm's coverage, which essentially is quarters.

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Speaker 4: But what they're both doing is reading number two right.

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Speaker 4: So he was So basically they were showing man. They

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Speaker 4: and then they dropped into their coverage. He'd only has

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Speaker 4: patting it. Tarhee does a good job of acting like

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Speaker 1: And then that's when Mooney came in front of him.

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Speaker 2: Play it look easy and took it all the way

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was Cam and it was Tarheb.

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Speaker 4: But Cam was more so like, Okay, this guy's physical,

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Speaker 4: And the thing that I seen with Tarheb coming out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting the way scouting works, you know, because

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Speaker 2: If it's you're going out there to scout Deontaey. He's

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Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, what's just put a pin

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Speaker 2: Its guy I can play corner. For whatever reason he

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Speaker 1: You'd never know in this process.

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Speaker 4: People ask me to this day how I slipped to

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Speaker 1: It has been they haven't been bending at all.

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Speaker 4: But this game, the Falcons came out hot, they had

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Speaker 4: It's it's only Lad that's able to separate himself and

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Speaker 4: And Justin was really comfortable with him that game, finding

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And that's what teams are doing. And right now Ladd

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know, look, the Falcons have a solid secondary.

435
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Speaker 2: I mean they have arguably, you know, one of the

436
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 2: two three best safety tandem went out there. They've got

437
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,159
Speaker 2: an absolute lockdown corner in Terrell. So it's not like

438
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,639
Speaker 2: they were coming to the fight, you know, unarmed. So

439
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 2: I guess you look at Kansas City and you try

440
00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,359
Speaker 2: to figure out, Okay, so how do you overcome that?

441
00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 2: How is it that you can they say, and we

442
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,160
Speaker 2: saw what happened in the second half. They double lad

443
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,400
Speaker 2: the entire game, and it's like he's not beating us,

444
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,840
Speaker 2: So what's you know, what's the secret there? Like, what

445
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,520
Speaker 2: is it that these receivers have to do? Session has

446
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 2: been one of the best quarterbacks against man his entire careers.

447
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,280
Speaker 2: It's not like he can't do it. So what is

448
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,199
Speaker 2: it that they need to do that you're seeing that

449
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,320
Speaker 2: they got to be better at?

450
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Speaker 1: I mean, is this leading to the season money? And

451
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 1: it's been kind of the talk.

452
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Speaker 4: It's been kind of an issue throughout the season with

453
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Speaker 4: you know, the productivity of the wide receivers. It has

454
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,399
Speaker 4: to go to now, it has to go to the

455
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Speaker 4: coaching staff to be like, you know what these guys

456
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:18,880
Speaker 4: are struggling.

457
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Speaker 1: How can we help them separate themselves? Right?

458
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Speaker 4: And the way you help receivers separate themselves is by

459
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 4: doing stacks, by doing motions, by doing bunches, by creating

460
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,680
Speaker 4: stacks one two stacks, by creating a three man bunch.

461
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 4: Now these defensive backs can get their hands on the

462
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 4: receivers like versus if you're just lining up in a

463
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Speaker 4: three by one or two by two straight across the

464
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 4: board and it's press technique, man and man in front

465
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Speaker 4: of their faces, right, So you have to start creating

466
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 4: short motions, fast motions, one two stacks, bunches so that

467
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,360
Speaker 4: these guys can get free releases and then get into

468
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 4: their routes. And then sooner or later deep down the field,

469
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 4: can you know, shoulder off or shimmy off and create

470
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 4: that separation that you're looking for. But if you're just

471
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Speaker 4: lining up straight across the board right now and these

472
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Speaker 4: guys are pressing with pressing across the board, pressure and justin,

473
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 4: it's going to be tough for these guys to separate

474
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Speaker 4: as we've been able to we've seen in the past.

475
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you have the same thing I have in

476
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 2: terms of you know what you hear from people that

477
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 2: want to talk to you about the Chargers, And it's

478
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,640
Speaker 2: funny because it's not like it's a NAE's. You were

479
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 2: not talking about Keenan Allen or Mike Williams or DeVante

480
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 2: Adams or you know, pick your favorite Jamar Chase. But

481
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: everybody's asking, like, what's going on with DJ Shark? Yeah,

482
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 2: what is what's up with Chark? And why is he

483
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 2: not out there? And what what do you think? And

484
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Speaker 2: I'd say, I don't know. I have no answer because

485
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,239
Speaker 2: when I go through and I see that you know,

486
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 2: you have zero receptions for Jalen Rager, that's where I

487
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 2: assume the competition is. And when you see the struggles

488
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 2: of Quentin to get off of this press man as

489
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 2: of late, and Josh has struggled a little bit, it's

490
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Speaker 2: I think you're asking, Okay, well he's active, now, what's

491
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 2: what's going on? Why is he not out there? Because

492
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 2: this is a guy that's been an access whole career.

493
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 2: You can win fifty fifty balls downfield. I don't really

494
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: feel like any of these other receivers have that particular

495
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 2: skill set. So what, like, what do you think if

496
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: you had to gas? I know, we're just trying to speculate.

497
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 2: What do you think it is. His coach said, it's

498
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: not medical.

499
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe and maybe.

500
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Speaker 4: Well, first things first, when he was in camp, he

501
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 4: was Justin's deep ball threat right right like he was.

502
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was eating. He was eating in camp.

503
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 4: And maybe that you know, he's coming off an injury

504
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 4: and they're trying to get him up to game speed

505
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 4: and get his conditioning back right and just get his

506
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 4: timing down.

507
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

508
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 4: I expected to see him play against Atlanta. I do

509
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 4: expect to see him out there against the Chiefs.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

511
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: Maybe they're saying, you know, let's give him one more week.

512
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 4: He's we've cleared him, but he's not just quite ready

513
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 4: for game shape and you don't want to throw him

514
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: out there. And now he has a hamstring that he's

515
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 4: dealing with or a soft tissue injury. That's the only

516
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 4: thing that I can think of right now. Money because

517
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 4: with the lack of productivity from the receiver room, and

518
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 4: you have a guy like that who you brought in

519
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 4: for that reason to be a fifty to fifty guy,

520
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 4: a deep ball guy, a guy who can stretch the

521
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Speaker 4: field and you know, open up the underneath routes for

522
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Speaker 4: lad and those other receivers.

523
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he's not out there right now.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's a flip side to everyone's

525
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 2: talking about, oh, they missed Mike Williams so much. It's

526
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Speaker 2: the best fait fifty guys a ninety ten guy, and

527
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: I say, and I would always say to them, I

528
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you know what, you also have a

529
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: quarterback that can throw it. Like, it's not just the receiver.

530
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: You got to have a quarterback that knows how to

531
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Speaker 2: throw it. And you know that Herbert knows how to

532
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: throw that ball, which is why it's been so you know,

533
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: I think it's just been the one thing that could

534
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: really help this offense out. The other thing that kind

535
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: of was weird in that game, and I pulled it up,

536
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: is you know, you got Gus Edwards who's got six

537
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: carries for thirty two. You got Kaman who's got four

538
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: for twenty. That's that's ten rushes for fifty two yards.

539
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: And they really did not rush it.

540
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: Much, stayed away from it almost.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's been kind of trying to figure out

542
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: how do you get this running game going? And you know,

543
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: now look, there were two runs that popped which essentially

544
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: made those you know, for Kamani, I think they's a

545
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: fifteen yard or something like that. So you got three

546
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: carries for five and then one for fifteen. That leads

547
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: to four for twenty. But I am Are you at

548
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: all surprised if the Running Game has struggled as much

549
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: as it has this shore? I think they're twenty eighth

550
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: EPA and designed runs.

551
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Speaker 4: I am especially how hot you know the Running Game

552
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 4: started off at the beginning of the year, right, And

553
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: that's the identity of g Row and Jim Harball's offense

554
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 4: is we're gonna be a physical team, We're gonna run

555
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 4: the ball at a high rate, and we're gonna do

556
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Speaker 4: it until the cows come home. And I think that

557
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 4: they in some games they stayed with it a little

558
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 4: bit longer and then it broke for them at the end.

559
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: And we seen like against the Bengals, right, they were

560
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 4: struggling for the most part of the game, but they

561
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: kept going, they kept going, kept giving body blows body blows,

562
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Speaker 4: and then one time then it hits right with Haskins

563
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 4: fumbling the ball early on in the game, and then

564
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 4: you have Kimani, who's a young guy, and Gus is

565
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: not really you know, turning those wheels on the bus

566
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Speaker 4: like we want him to. Maybe they're probably just a

567
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 4: little bit discouraged. But I think going into Kansas City, well,

568
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Speaker 4: I know, going into Kansas City and a cold weather

569
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: game like this, played a night game, playing against Pat,

570
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to run the ball and it might

571
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 4: be two yards in a cloud of dust, but it's

572
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 4: gonna keep that defense, honestly, going to keep spags over there.

573
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 4: Honest we know how all we all know how good

574
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: of a defensive coordinator he is. So they're gonna have

575
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: to figure it out, and I have confidence in them

576
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: that they will. But this is gonna be a game

577
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: where you're gonna have to pack your special teams again.

578
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to pack your defense, and you're gonna

579
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: have to pack the run game because it's gonna be

580
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: a cold game and you're gonna want to teake. You're

581
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: gonna want to keep Pat off the field. You're gonna

582
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: take time away from him. And I think that's the formula.

583
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll go to it now as we kind

584
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: of start previewing this game, and I'll tell you if

585
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: I had to pick one player that I just look,

586
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: it's gut. It's nothing that I've seen out there, really,

587
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: But there have been flashes, right, There have been flashes

588
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: on third down. There have been flashes late in the game.

589
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 2: There was the flash on the two point conversion. Like

590
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: Josh Palmer is, you know, one of the few guys

591
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: on this offense that's been around. They kind of knows

592
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: the heartbreak in these games. And I've got to believe

593
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: when you're watching this film and you see defense is

594
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: not like it was last year. This chie's defense is

595
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: not the same as there's that There is rooms is leaky. Yeah,

596
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: there's room to eat out there at those corner positions.

597
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: You know that the pass rush is being Look, it's

598
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: great in the interior Chris Jalonnce's ridict, but it hasn't

599
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: been as dominant. So there's gonna be opportunities they play

600
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: a ton of man. Yeah, I just feel like this.

601
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for it all year. I thought it's

602
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: just gonna be a big year for Josh. I thought that,

603
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: you know, going into free agency, this is his opportunity. Yeah,

604
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: And I just I feel like maybe that two point conversion.

605
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: That grab is something that can spark and I've just

606
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: kind of been waiting for that breakout Josh King. We've

607
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: had breakout catches yep, in pivotal moments. He's been critical

608
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: to their eight and four record. But kind of as

609
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: you watch it, do you see that, do you see

610
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: it inside there where we're just kind of maybe get

611
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: that game instead of just a couple of plays from Josh.

612
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: I would I would love to, right, I would love to.

613
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 4: And obviously I have a lot of respect for Josh

614
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 4: Palmer and what he does and when he brings to

615
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: the table.

616
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Speaker 1: But like you said, it has to be some If

617
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Speaker 1: it's not Josh, it has to be Q.

618
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 3: Right.

619
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Speaker 4: If it's not Q, it has to be DJ because

620
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: right now, it's only Ladd and you can't go into

621
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 4: a game, or you can't go into this late in

622
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: the season going into December looking for a playoff rush, put,

623
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Speaker 4: playoff push and not have no other weapons be available

624
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: for justin Right now, it's receiver by committee besides Ladd, Right,

625
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: and if it has to be like that throughout for

626
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: the next five games going into the playoffs, and lads

627
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: the one who's eating and he's carrying the crying the load,

628
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: and then each in every game there's somebody different stepping up. Hey,

629
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: so be it. It's a win is a win, right.

630
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: It's we are where we are in the season. We

631
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: know the personnel that we have in the receiver room

632
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: and it just would love for it to be Josh,

633
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: And I hope it's Josh. But if it's Q, if

634
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 4: it's DJ, if it's Disley, I don't even care at

635
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: this point. I just want to fire the fire, the

636
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: fire those cannons.

637
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: Man.

638
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: We have to get the ball moving more.

639
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: We have to be a little bit more explosive because

640
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: the defense is doing a heck of a job. But

641
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: it's going to be tough for the defense to continue

642
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: to win games like this. As we go down the stretch.

643
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, the other it just going back and

644
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: watching all the runs. There is there is one thing

645
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: that all the explosive runs have in common, or at

646
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: least close to explosive runs that they've had, and that's

647
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: follow that lock. Ye Like, it's been impressive how good

648
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: of a fullback he's become. He's been, and it's been

649
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: interesting because they have played with three receivers a lot

650
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: this year. A lot more than I thought they would.

651
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's been twenty one in a lot of

652
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: those cases where Matt Locke is out there or Viscus

653
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: acting as that fullback. But I thought we'd see a

654
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: little bit more two tight ends, you know, twelve or

655
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: twenty two or which we have seen a little bit of.

656
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's maybe the solution here

657
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs with like I said, that kind of

658
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: leaky secondary that we've seen, to try to get a

659
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 2: couple of those downfield plays to develop, just give them

660
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: an extra beat to push that ball downfield. It feels

661
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: like they need that, they need that explosive player downfield,

662
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: those explosive passes to get this thing to open up

663
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: and breathe a little bit.

664
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think maybe because the injury of Hayden right,

665
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: you haven't seen much twelve personnel. Disley's really been obviously

666
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 4: the available tight end who has had the most production.

667
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: Smart is obviously a young guy who is coming into

668
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: his own, but I don't know if they trust him enough,

669
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, to have him out there on that twelve personnel.

670
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 3: Look.

671
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: So that's why you're seeing more twenty one with Scott

672
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: and you know, powers and leads and stuff like that.

673
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: But however, it is if you got to show twelve

674
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: and do max protext and only have three route three

675
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: man routes, and you have to find.

676
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: A way to get explosive because if the running game is.

677
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: Not there, like we spoke about, right, there has to

678
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 4: be a way that you can push the ball down

679
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: the field.

680
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: And I know Justin wants to push the ball down

681
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: the field.

682
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: Right like, that's yeah, he has an arm, he's confident,

683
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 4: and what I want to see him do again is

684
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: continue to use his feet. Don't forget to use your feet,

685
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: because that's what's allowed him to be successful this whole

686
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: second half of the season. Not only is he taking

687
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: care of the ball, which has been fantastic, one interception

688
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: on the season, but he's been able to use his

689
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: feet like he did in the Oregon days, and that's

690
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 4: what makes him Justin Herbert.

691
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. I was just about to say that. I

692
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: was like, this is reminiscent of the twenty nineteen Rose

693
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: Bowl team where when you go through those by and

694
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: you wonder, you know, how is it that Justin Herbert

695
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: slipped to the you know, being the third quarterback taken and.

696
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: No idea, and he did.

697
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Though you watched you watch that season and just look

698
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: at the box scores. It's twelve fourteen attempts for one

699
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen yards one game, one hundred and seventy

700
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: and it's nine carries for thirty five yards and a touchdown.

701
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: And it's just you know, it was the Mario Christobal like, hey,

702
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: defense is great, no matter what, do not turn the

703
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: ball over. And I feel like that's the Justin Herbert

704
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: that we had in that Atlanta game. Everybody's asking like,

705
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: how does a team that's got ten sacks on the

706
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: season get five. It's like, because he ate it. He

707
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: ate that he ran into one. I think he ran

708
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: into He definitely ran into one. He might have run

709
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: into two, but he was just eating it like whatever,

710
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: man exactly.

711
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: And they're playing great.

712
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: They were playing sticky coverage on the back end, and

713
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: he's kind of patting and he's looking and he's waiting

714
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: for a guy to get open. But it's more so like, hey,

715
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: you pat once, you pat twice, and that alarm clock

716
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: glows off in your head and you got to just

717
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: go like and I'm not saying it has to be

718
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson this right, but it needs to be to where, Hey,

719
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: if I'm looking at my first reading, my second reading,

720
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: my third reason not.

721
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: There, I gotta go, right, I gotta go.

722
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: I gotta go pick up this first down and if anything,

723
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 4: just keep the chains moving right. And I think that's

724
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: he's done it. He's it this season. And I think

725
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: that's when he's playing his bast ball, when he's playing

726
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: like that.

727
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's go to the other sideline and what

728
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: we've seen from the Chiefs, it's remarkable. Like to put

729
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: it in perspective, the Chiefs are a plus fifty four

730
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: in point differential this year. They are eleven and one

731
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: and they are plus fifty four. To put that in context,

732
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers are plus seventy two. The other eleven and

733
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: one team Detroit is plus one eighty. Like that's the

734
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: kind of buzz saw that you should be if you're

735
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: eleven and one. The Bills I think are plus one

736
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: thirty five or something like that and differentials. I'm not

737
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: saying it's a mirage and that they're not worthy of

738
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: their record, but it's a team that's gettable and it's

739
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: been flirting with it for the last five weeks or so,

740
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: and so many of these wins, and it feels like

741
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: if you can maybe just pop that, you know whatever,

742
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: if you can somehow be the team that does it,

743
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: then that national narrative is going to change, and it's

744
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of finger pointing and question like, hey,

745
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: this is what we've been talking about this whole time.

746
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 2: You can't this won't work in the playoffs. They got

747
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: to figure some things out. Plant nefarious seeds, plant seeds

748
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: of doubt. That's kind of why I think this is

749
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: bigger than just a win versus a division opponent. I

750
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: think you can really do some damage to sort of

751
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: what the Chiefs have been that the fire that they've

752
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: been playing with for the last month plus.

753
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: I'll say it for you money, because I don't like

754
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, Okay, but no, honestly, it's it's what it is.

755
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: They've been squeaking by, Like all their wins have been

756
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: very close wins. They've been blocking fieldgals last seconds, right,

757
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: there's been you know, the last week we see with

758
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: the Raiders, the debacle with the Raiders snapping the ball

759
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: and there's a dead whistle, and so it's not like

760
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: they The Chiefs are the old and obviously you have

761
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: to respect them because they have Patrick Mahomes, they have

762
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: obviously Travis Kelsey's his production is not what it has

763
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: been Patricks or Patrick's. But they they win, right, they

764
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: find a way to win, and whatever it is, it's

765
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: working for them. But I will say that they are

766
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: gettable and they can't get got right right. So you

767
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: don't walk into this erahead stadium like you did maybe

768
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: two or three years ago with some like, hey these

769
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: guys are different, right, I don't know if we match

770
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: up or No, it's not like that. It's like, these

771
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: guys can get beat. These guys can be beat, and

772
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: it can happen if we play our best football. And

773
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: I think the Charges going there this weekend and get

774
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: it done.

775
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the right coach, you know, coming off

776
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: watching his Michigan Wolverines being you know, the biggest underdog

777
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: that they've had in that rivalry in like twenty years,

778
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: and then going in there and getting that win against

779
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: the Ohio States.

780
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Just don't plant no charge of flags at midfield. You

781
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: just don't plan no charges.

782
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: Who knows, you know, he established a rivalry I think

783
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: with Dayton when he was at San Diego and actually

784
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: made a flag and somehow like to at least swung

785
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: it around after they got that big victory. So maybe

786
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: he'll create a flag.

787
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it.

788
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm not mad forward, but I think it's a similar

789
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: national conversation that's happening with the Bills right now, Like,

790
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: hey man, you got the MVP of the league, you've

791
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 2: got a shot at the bet. You've already knocked them

792
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: off one. This is the year you better go get it.

793
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: And I feel like this is Charges have lost six

794
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: in a row. They've lost eighteen of twenty one. Like

795
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: they had a winning record against the Chiefs as a

796
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: friend franchise in the history of this rivalry prior to

797
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Andy Reids a ride. Since he's shown up, Yes, you know,

798
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I know. Sorry, they've gone eighteen and three against the Chargers,

799
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: so you know, turn with the worm is turned. You

800
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: know the famous they all have been very close.

801
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: It's over time, it's never blowout, it's always at the fingertips, right,

802
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: and this team is different. We talked about it last

803
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: like two weeks ago, right, And when this team is

804
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: in a close game, are they thinking like are they

805
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: going to charge again, it's called charging, And no they don't, right,

806
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 4: it's it's not the same team, it's not the same culture,

807
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: it's not the same coaching staff.

808
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: These players have a different belief.

809
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: Right, and they believe, Look, when we get into these

810
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: close games and in these situations, we're coming out on top,

811
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: and we're gonna be looking forward to being in the

812
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: locker room asking and saying who has it better than

813
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: the charger Chargers And that's.

814
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: Nobody exactly right. And they look, the matchups are there,

815
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: the the tackles have been leaky all year, they have

816
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: got the finanswers. There feels like Khalil max getting more

817
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: and more healthy when he and Joey are out there.

818
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: Pass rush is fierce because they got that. As as DJ,

819
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: who I call the games with, likes to call it

820
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: the Ferrari package. You put Tully and Bud, Joey and

821
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Khalil at.

822
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: The same time.

823
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: It's at the same time.

824
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: What do you do with that?

825
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: And you've seen like Patrick will he will give you so.

826
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: And the reason they keep winning, to be honest, is

827
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: that other teams are not taking advantage of it. He's

828
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: putting them. The Bills did the Bills took advantage of it.

829
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: He puts them up there. You just gotta take advantage

830
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: of it when he's when he's given them to you.

831
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: And it feels like there's enough guys on this team,

832
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: whether it's Slater and obviously Justin Herbert and Josh Palmer

833
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: and Joey bosen Khalil Mack and Aloe and like, like,

834
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: there's no guys that can I feel like consense. I mean,

835
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: you can speak to it, right if you just you know,

836
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: you get beat up enough times and you're like, this

837
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: is I feel a little stronger. It's time that big Bros.

838
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Goes down, Like I'm gonna get him on the court

839
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: here in the driveway, and today is my day. Today

840
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: is my day to take advantage of it.

841
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: And I think that has to be their mindset going

842
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: into Kansas City. Obviously you're gonna hear the home or

843
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the war chain. It's an incredible atmosphere

844
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: to play and man like, it's probably one of the

845
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: best stadiums I played in besides the Saints.

846
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Right it's and.

847
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: You walk in and you feel like the villain, and

848
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: you feel like the world's against you, and you walking

849
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: with your brothers and you're walking through that tunnel with

850
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: your arms linked and you're like, we're leaving here with

851
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: a victory, right, And we did that in two thy

852
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: eighteen Mike Williams, Mike Williams last Phillip Stage, find it

853
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: for a two point conversion and you can hear a

854
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: pin drop and eighty thousand people just dead sided, and

855
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: we're running around and we're beating our chest and we're

856
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 4: putting our hands for our ears.

857
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: We don't hear you.

858
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 4: So there's nothing better than going into somebody's place whipping

859
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: them a division rival, super Bowl contender who everyone obviously

860
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: believes is going to based off what they've done in

861
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: the past and what they're arguably doing this season being

862
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: eleven and one. So these guys, I know they have

863
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: the confidence. I know they're up for it, and I'm

864
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: excited to see it.

865
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wanye Morris, Juwan Taylor, you know, against Joey Bosa,

866
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack Tuleyan bud Dupree.

867
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: Good luck.

868
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: You can make your money, you know. And and that

869
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: initial that game plan that Jesse Miner had in week

870
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: three or week four, Week four was was executed perfectly.

871
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: They did not allow him to extend plays he was

872
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: trying to and they did a great job of just

873
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: kind of keeping him bottled up exactly, wheel out and

874
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: huck that ball down, feel like he did so many times.

875
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: It was just a it was a busted not a

876
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: busted coverage. It was just a nice play to to

877
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy. They got him there one explosive. Outside of that,

878
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: they pretty much kept him under wraps that that whole game.

879
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: So you know the game plan can be there, you

880
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: know the players can do it. It feels like this

881
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: team is so much better than they were even in

882
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: that week, you know, in terms of executing the offense.

883
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: And like it's weird to say it, but like even

884
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: when the the the negatives surrounding this, wow, if they

885
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: beat and how did they look against Joe Burrow and

886
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: how did they look against Lamar Jackson and look what

887
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: those two offenses did. I know it sounds weird, but

888
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: this offense is not. It's not that it is not

889
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: on par with the Bengals or.

890
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: The but because of the Scars and because of what

891
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: the Chiefs have been, you know, you get that and

892
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: obviously Xavier Worthy he is the deep threat and like

893
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: you mentioned, when that was a good point that they

894
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 4: have to limit explosive on the defensive side. Like Pat

895
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: is a gun slinger, he's gonna want to fit it.

896
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: He believes he can make every throw he wants. He

897
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 4: doesn't want to dink the ball down. He doesn't want

898
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: to check the ball down. He doesn't want to check

899
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: it down to his backs. That's not what he's in

900
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: his business to do, right. He wants to get the

901
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: crowd going. He wants to run around Pumper's chest, he

902
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: wants to find deep balls. He wants to scramble, he

903
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: wants to elude. And then now it's backyard football and

904
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: these guys are making up routes as they go down

905
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: the field. So that's what they have to do. If

906
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: they limit explosives and keep the top on the defense.

907
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: I guarantee you Pat does not have the patience enough

908
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: to just slowly march down the field, slowly marched on

909
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: the field. He's gonna get frustrated and he's gonna fit

910
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: it into those windows. And those guys just had listen,

911
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: they just had four picks last week, right, and they said,

912
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: once you get one, they keep Yeah, they just keep coming.

913
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: And guess what Sunday night. Christmas needs to come early.

914
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes Santa Claus give out those gifts man.

915
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, there we go, A perfect way to end

916
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: it and make our way over to the couch for

917
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,560
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Speaker 1: I could just today h.

934
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Speaker 2: Right, Julil, let's bring it in. Coming off a fourteen

935
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 2: tackle game. Impressing performance, so impressive defensive performance as a whole,

936
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: but you led the way Troy as Troy Troy died

937
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: joins us. I'll start with this. Do you know the

938
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: last time you had fourteen tackles in a game?

939
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: Probably in college.

940
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 6: It's been a while since I've been able to have

941
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 6: the opportunity to go out there and play how many

942
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: players in a row and be able to put my

943
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 6: talents on show and help the defense play the way

944
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: we know we can play, And just felt good to

945
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 6: be back out there again.

946
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: Hey, Troy, you talked about it just now being a

947
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: while since you were being able to get out there

948
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 4: and put your talents on the splay on the defensive side.

949
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: You came to the league and been a special teams demon, right,

950
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: So if there's just guys looking at this podcast, may

951
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: it be a high school guy or a college guy

952
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: entering the league. I know how valuable special teams is

953
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: and it created the opportunity for me for my career.

954
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: Can you just touch on that a little bit, like

955
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: what special teams have done for you and the opportunity

956
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 4: has given you to elevate your game.

957
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

958
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 6: I think special teams. It's a big part of reason

959
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: why I'm still in the league in the first place.

960
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: I think a lot of guys who don't take it

961
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 6: serious kind of get lost on the sholve because there's

962
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: only eleven guys playing on DEFENSI eleven guys playing on offense,

963
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 6: and there's only but at least twenty some spots left

964
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 6: for the rest of the team. So if you're not

965
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: able to contribute on all four, of course, a bunch

966
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 6: of teams at a high level and bring value to

967
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 6: the team in some way, they'll go find someone who will.

968
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 6: Because there's a lot of guys who want to be

969
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: in this position and play in this in this building especially,

970
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 6: so if you don't take your craft serious, someone else

971
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 6: is out there training super hard to come take your craft.

972
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: It's just part of the business.

973
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: And just super blessed to have the coaches that I've

974
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 6: had in my past that really emphasized and strained special teams,

975
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 6: and that's how you keep the longevity in this league

976
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 6: and be able to make plays on that on that

977
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 6: one rep, and it goes a long way for the

978
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 6: team on momentum and.

979
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: Stuff of that nature.

980
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: So just take it serious and really take it and

981
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 6: run with it and don't be ashamed of it.

982
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Like it's a third of the game.

983
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 6: It's a big part of the game that people don't

984
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 6: don't value as much as they should. The teams that

985
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 6: do it shows week in and week out whether all

986
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: three are on the same page and you win games

987
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 6: when you're like that.

988
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Sure, being a Norco guy had something to do with

989
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: it coming back here, But what about coach and playing

990
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: for coach Ficking and how much that played into your

991
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: decision when when it came time to sign here in

992
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: the off season.

993
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean coach Fick played a big part in

994
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 6: it because he was with me in Minnesota and he's

995
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 6: a special teams guy, and that's kind of the guy

996
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 6: who kind of helped catapulte me into taking such team

997
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 6: series because he was the assistant my rookie year and

998
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 6: kind of really laid it into me, was like, hey,

999
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 6: like this is the way you make the team. Like yeah,

1000
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 6: you're drafted, Yeah, like you did this in college, but

1001
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 6: no really cares about all that. It's about what you

1002
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: do now and if you go out there and put

1003
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 6: plays on tape. It lasts a long time. So when

1004
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 6: coach gave me that call during the off season, it

1005
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 6: was a no brainer. And then coach Harball's resume speaks

1006
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 6: for itself. So it's like, if you want to be

1007
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 6: a part of a winning program, why not come join

1008
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 6: the wave and be a part of something great because

1009
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 6: this track Reussert speaks for itself. I mean, if you

1010
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: could go back to the University of San Diego when

1011
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: he first started, they he turned that program around as well.

1012
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 6: So it's just like if you just a creature habit,

1013
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: if you just follow the bread crumbs're and to gets

1014
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 6: to the loaf of bread. So hopefully I can just

1015
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 6: follow these bread crumbs and be a part some.

1016
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Great I'm trying to follow them with exactly.

1017
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: You know, man, it's you spoke about just now, just

1018
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: putting it on tape, and you hear that around the

1019
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: league like it's literally your resume, and that's what you

1020
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: did last week.

1021
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: You put it on tape. Fourteen tackles begetting of the game.

1022
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: I talked about Tony Jefferson and you were flying all

1023
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: over the field with Tony on the national broadcast that

1024
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: I was watching, like what did you see in Atlanta?

1025
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: How is your preparation going into that week that allowed

1026
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 4: you to excel so fast and at a high level

1027
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: of seeing that you haven't had much defensive reps this season.

1028
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think coach Minterer and coach bo did a

1029
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 6: great job throughout the week of just make sure everybody

1030
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 6: in our room is prepared because you never know who's

1031
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: going to get the oportunity to go there and play.

1032
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 6: And I think week in and week out we've prepared

1033
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 6: the same way. I think going back to the OTA's

1034
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 6: coachman to put up a slide as if today was

1035
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: AFC Championship game.

1036
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: How was you prepared this week?

1037
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: And I think as a defense, we've taken that into

1038
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 6: every weekend prepared like it's the biggest game of the year,

1039
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 6: because it is the biggest game, because it's the next game.

1040
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 6: And if you don't take a game by games too

1041
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 6: worried about the future, you'll get lost in shuffle. And

1042
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 6: so I think the coach has done a great job

1043
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 6: of preparing this week in and week out, giving us

1044
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 6: all the tidbits that we can have. We watch a

1045
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: lot of film, They break down a lot of film

1046
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 6: on our own time and put up great cutups for

1047
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 6: us to watch throughout the week. And it's just if

1048
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 6: you just put in the effort, it's gonna it's gonna

1049
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 6: show on the field, because they literally give you all

1050
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 6: the resources here, and they do a really good job

1051
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: of explaining stuff and breaking stuff down and making sure

1052
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 6: no one's left behind and make sure everybod's on the

1053
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: same page. So it's a great place to learn, and

1054
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 6: you just don't want to go out there and let

1055
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 6: your coaches down. If they put that much effort into you,

1056
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: you kind of just want to show the fruits of

1057
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 6: their labor and go out there and perform well.

1058
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: Tue, give us an idea kind of coming out of

1059
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: the Baltimore game, how you're feeling, you know, Denzel doesn't

1060
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: play in that game. You and Nick are kind of

1061
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, both playing alongside Dayan and what you took

1062
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: from that and what you were able to apply to

1063
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: this game and how you you know, ended up playing

1064
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: against the Falcons.

1065
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think we have such a deep

1066
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 6: lineback room that we doesn't matter who's on the field,

1067
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 6: we all know we can all perform at a high level.

1068
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 6: I mean, Nick had a tackles against Baltimore play at

1069
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 6: a super high level. So I think when you have

1070
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 6: a room like that, you want to go out there

1071
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 6: and put your best foot forward so you're not letting

1072
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 6: the room down because at the end of the day,

1073
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 6: like those are the guys that depend on you. You

1074
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 6: go to practice every day with those guys, like you're

1075
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: lifting with those guys, like off season stuff, like you're

1076
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 6: hanging out with those guys. So it's like you get

1077
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 6: to know these guys and get to know their families,

1078
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 6: and so it's like, do you really not want to

1079
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: go out there and put your best foot forward for

1080
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 6: those guys who depend on you as much as you

1081
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 6: depend on them. So I think it just reverse back

1082
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 6: to Coach Bow and coach mentoring all those guys is

1083
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 6: instilling that into us and making sure we're all out

1084
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 6: there playing for each other and playing as one unit

1085
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 6: no matter who's out there.

1086
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: Let me say that you mentioned coach Bow, So what's

1087
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: going on this week? Man? Like, what's going on this.

1088
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, we definitely definitely be talking a little bit. He

1089
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 6: brought it up actually on Saturday after Ohio State lost.

1090
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 6: I didn't know who we were playing, Like after State lost.

1091
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, like who's next. Yeah, it doesn't

1092
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 6: really matter for us, but yeah, we've had some good bands,

1093
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 6: are going back and forth. And he's a real prideful dude,

1094
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 6: especially with his school deservedly so, I mean he his

1095
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: resume speaks for himself as well. But it's definitely been

1096
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: some fun back and forth. It's been a funny year

1097
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: through throughout the building with the Michigan stuff and all

1098
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff.

1099
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: So it's been it's been a good year.

1100
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 4: I mean, speaking of coach Bowl, I mean, you get

1101
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: to play under a guy who is an All Pro

1102
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: pro bowler dead at a high level for years. I

1103
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 4: remember growing up watching Bowl and the candlestick with those

1104
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 4: forty nine ers in him.

1105
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: And Pat Willis were the truth.

1106
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 4: Like speak on a little bit about like how much

1107
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: it's meant to you, how much it has.

1108
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Allowed you to grow as a linebacker.

1109
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: Learning from somebody who not just is an X and

1110
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: O guy or learned the game from out of a

1111
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: book or a mentor who really was out there in

1112
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 4: the grass and on the field doing it himself.

1113
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 6: I think it's helped my game a lot because you

1114
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 6: get to hear those little tidbits. Like you said, it's

1115
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 6: not an X and oh, it's not a playbook. It's

1116
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: like a feel of the game. Like it's okay, if

1117
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 6: you get this and you see this, this is kind

1118
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 6: of what I would have done type of deal and like, okay, cool,

1119
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 6: I appreciate that. And it's like he always tries to

1120
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 6: find little ways to help your game, whether it's staying

1121
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: a hunter during the play like not letting up at all,

1122
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: or just reading different keys and seeing different things and

1123
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 6: if you feel something like trust your feeling and take

1124
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: advantage of it. But he's an amazing coach. I mean

1125
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: he's done nothing but passed down his wisdom and passed

1126
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: down his knowledge and just wants nothing but the best

1127
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 6: for our entire room. And it shows like he is

1128
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 6: a great relationship with all of us and he's just

1129
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 6: he's he's a great guy. I mean, he's a true

1130
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: leader of men and really he's give him back and

1131
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: really appreciate him.

1132
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: Have you, uh, do you feel like you played different

1133
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: under him with this team? I just I'm thinking back

1134
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: when he joined us, he was talking about dayon and

1135
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: how Daan is just he fires man, Like you can

1136
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: see that guy he wants. He's making all the tackles

1137
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: because he's the first guy there. He's in every small frame.

1138
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: Is that something that you had done before? Was that

1139
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: something that maybe kind of set in here when you

1140
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: when you got to.

1141
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think coming like getting back here and being

1142
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 6: back under a coach like Bo gets you back to

1143
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 6: that that real joy of football and really playing and

1144
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: the small fine things of the game, like you said,

1145
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: like just getting to the ball, like being the first

1146
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: one there, like having that passion and that ambition to

1147
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 6: be there. And it reverse back to breaking down tape.

1148
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 6: He does a really good job of giving us a

1149
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: little tidbits and little keys like oh, if you see this,

1150
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: like this was gonna come so kind of anticipated, don't guess,

1151
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 6: but anticipate. And I think Dayon shown that over the

1152
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: last what twelve thirteen weeks. I mean he's double edit

1153
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 6: tackles the last six weeks, which is amazing. The dude's

1154
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 6: having a breakout of your Pro Bowl type year. And

1155
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 6: I think it's just he's just soaking up everything that

1156
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: coach bow is telling him and he's running with it,

1157
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 6: and it's it's great to see and we love seeing

1158
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 6: the success in our room. Because it just reflects on

1159
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 6: everybody and we just we're happy for him right now.

1160
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Flex I love it, flex Man.

1161
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: He speaking of Flex, I think was this one that

1162
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: got flex or was this one ready Sunday night?

1163
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Or I know you guys are by exactly.

1164
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: Man, but just changing gears here speaking about the Chiefs.

1165
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: Obviously Patrick Mahomes his resumes speak for itself, and you

1166
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: know the guys that he has around him have done

1167
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: a great job as well. What do you see on

1168
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: film just earlier on in the week and obviously today's

1169
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: I think a third down day for you guys, And

1170
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: what are you seeing on film right now for those.

1171
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 6: Guys I know you said he's he's probably one of

1172
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: the best quarterbacks to play the game ever. He knows

1173
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: what he's doing, He has a great offensive SYSM, he

1174
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: trusts his system, and I think they all play together

1175
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: as one. No one's trying to go out there and

1176
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 6: make a super big splash player. Body kind of does

1177
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 6: their job and does their one eleventh and I think

1178
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 6: that's how they can get teams to kind of just

1179
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: fall apart, because they stay consistent and like teams kind

1180
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 6: of fizzle out, and they're able to stay consistent and

1181
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 6: stay who they are you talking about third down. They're

1182
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 6: one of the best to convert on third down in

1183
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 6: the league. So you kind of just have to stay

1184
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: on one hundreds. Coach both would always say, and just

1185
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 6: make sure that you strained to the very last minute

1186
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 6: because Patrick Holmes is one of the best scramblin quarterbacks

1187
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 6: to get first downs on third down. So as long

1188
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 6: as we're able to just keep them in the pocket

1189
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: and do our job and everybody do their one eleventh,

1190
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 6: I like the chances that we do have. But at

1191
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: the same time, you have to respect him because he's

1192
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 6: earned that respect and he's put it on tape. I mean,

1193
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 6: they're defending back to back champion, so you have to

1194
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 6: respect that. And you don't just get that. It's hard

1195
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 6: to even get to the playoffs, so it went back

1196
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 6: to back. They're doing something right.

1197
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: I did this poorly. I should have asked before we

1198
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: got to the Chiefs, but before getting deeper into the Chiefs.

1199
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: I do want to go back to Sunday in the

1200
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: Falcons game, and I know you can't see it, but

1201
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: the people watching can. Maybe you can remember in your

1202
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: mind's eye. Just want to go through the play I

1203
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: think it's passed. Be seon in the flat and just

1204
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: kind of take us through, you know, finding the angle

1205
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: getting there and how you pull a guy down? Where

1206
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: did where did you get him? Did you get him

1207
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: a shoulder padge give him? I mean, and it's a

1208
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: second and ten and it is a huge play because

1209
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: I think it's probably going for fifteen twenty yards if

1210
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: you don't make that. So just kind of walk us

1211
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: through what you saw and how that whole thing came together.

1212
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: It was it was a pressure that we had dialed

1213
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 6: up and I was man on the back and so

1214
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: he and he released.

1215
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm responsible for him, uh saw get onto the flat.

1216
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, this is this big time playing like

1217
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 6: you said, because I know it's me and the next

1218
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 6: guy is twenty yards back. Kind of grabbed them on

1219
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: the back of the shoulder pad, like right in between

1220
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 6: the crease and kind of just held on and slung

1221
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 6: him down. Angle was kind of poor, so I kind

1222
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 6: of got to work on that and kind of correct that.

1223
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 6: But just naming the game les get him to the

1224
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 6: ground of the man, how you do it? So just

1225
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 6: happily and think we'll be able to do it and

1226
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 6: help the team and any I can.

1227
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: Money is crazy.

1228
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: You said that because I remember watching that play and

1229
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, Bijon in space is probably one of the

1230
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: most premier backs in the league, making guys miss and

1231
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: I've seen you trailing a little bit.

1232
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: Obviously, you don't ever want to beat him to the flat.

1233
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 4: You want to chase him to the flat what you did,

1234
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 4: and then you came up and made that one that

1235
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: it was one hand tax but like you were above him,

1236
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: he was about to cut back, you grabbed him and

1237
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: slung him down.

1238
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, most people don't know how big

1239
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: of a play that was.

1240
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely for one for the team, and

1241
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: then two, how hard it is. I've been out there

1242
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: bro one on one in space with a guy like

1243
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: that and then to bring him down, dude, like much

1244
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: respect man, proud and I'm proud to see. I was

1245
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: with you guys in training camp and I'm seeing you

1246
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: guys developing your growth and you're getting your opportunity and

1247
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: making the most of it.

1248
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1249
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: Well, let's get you know what, Let's get one more

1250
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: than the tackle for loss that is outside zone run

1251
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: right or was that? I think it was outside and

1252
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: you end up shooting the gap, and it seemed like

1253
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: guard was just a little bit slow to get to you.

1254
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: And it's funny when we're you know, when we're calling

1255
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: the game, we're above it, so we can kind of

1256
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: see where all the pieces are. But how hard is

1257
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: it for you to find that length? Because it looked

1258
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: like it was the slimmest of margins where you had

1259
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: to kind of peek through in order to make that tackle.

1260
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: I think it just refers back to the trust and

1261
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 6: the defense that you have to have when it goes

1262
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 6: back to camp. You trust guys to do their job

1263
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 6: and understand that he doesn't do his job, that I

1264
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 6: can't do my job. So if I trust him to

1265
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: do his job, then he trusts me to do my job.

1266
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 6: So I trusted the defensive line to hold their gaps,

1267
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 6: and I saw the opening that was my gap, and

1268
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: so I.

1269
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: Just hit it as fast as I could before I closed.

1270
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: And just glad I was able to make the play

1271
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 6: and everybody's happy about it and we're able to keep moving.

1272
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: So the biggest threat you guys are going to see,

1273
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: obviously this week is Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, Isaiah Pacheco was back,

1274
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: I'm a very physical runner. Obviously, if Travis kelce and

1275
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: had the deep threat of Worthy down the field and

1276
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins us an established Hall of Fame receiver, just

1277
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: a little bit of tidbits. What coach has giving you

1278
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: you guys this week in the film room is what's

1279
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: the biggest thing you guys are gonna have to do

1280
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: as far as limited them, and then what are you

1281
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 4: gonna have to excel in to keep that ceiling over

1282
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 4: the defense so they're not taking any explosives.

1283
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it just goes back to our core

1284
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 6: pillars is just communication, effort and angles, tackling, block destruction

1285
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 6: and turnovers and just everybody getting to the ball, all

1286
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 6: in a hatch to the ball, no matter what the

1287
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 6: play call is. Once the ball is out, everybody has

1288
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: to get to it because, like you said, they're very explosive.

1289
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 6: They have hard runners, they have big time runners that

1290
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 6: have elusive runners. So it's one on one tackles are harder,

1291
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 6: like you said, in the leagues, but ten on one

1292
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 6: tackle it's a little bit easier.

1293
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: So the more hats to the ball the better.

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Speaker 6: So just stay consistent with that and just always just

1295
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 6: keep saying stay on one hundred because you have to

1296
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 6: against this team, like as soon as you let up

1297
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 6: a little bit, they expose the little weaknesses. So just

1298
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 6: stay on one hundred, always run to the ball, get

1299
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Speaker 6: eleven has two and just just play hard, just play

1300
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 6: as much as you can for sixty minutes and just

1301
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 6: hopefully the outcome comes our way if we have.

1302
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: Like a like an award show at the end of

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00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: the year. Right, that's the category of block destruction. Do

1304
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: you think anything is going to be able to supplant

1305
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: what Tony Jefferson did against Drake Lennon on that second play?

1306
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's that definitely is is it's nominee

1307
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 6: for Top one for sure. Like Puna Ford has some

1308
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 6: good ones out there, Khalil Mack has some good ones.

1309
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 6: I mean, Tar Heeps still on the Edge has some

1310
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 6: good ones. Cam Hart, I think everybody takes pride in

1311
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 6: it because you come in on Wednesday and you're gonna

1312
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 6: watch it as a defense. So if you're not out

1313
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 6: there doing that obstruction job, everybody sees it. So you

1314
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 6: don't want to be the one and they're not doing

1315
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 6: your job, and that's I think that's a good thing.

1316
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 6: That the coaches do is they hold everybody accountable in

1317
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 6: front of everybody. There's no secrets, there's no hiding behind

1318
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 6: closed doors, there's no hiding behind sheets. It's all right

1319
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 6: there in front of you. Everybody knows what it is,

1320
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 6: and so it just helps you go a little bit

1321
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 6: harder and make sure that your one eleventh is is

1322
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: on point.

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Speaker 1: Tar Heep steals. You mentioned tar Hep steals rookie. Obviously,

1324
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to give rookie too.

1325
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: Much, too much, right, still, right, but he's played, he's

1326
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: played lights out. Obviously, injuries have happened, and he stepped up.

1327
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: And Money asked me earlier in the podcast, like what

1328
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 4: I seen from him in camping was just that the

1329
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: ball finds him. He's a ball hall. Wherever the ball is,

1330
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: he's going to find it. Sometimes it finds him.

1331
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1332
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: What can you say about the young rook and what

1333
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: he's done and how he stepped up and helped the

1334
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: defense out this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's his mindset and his work. I

1336
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 6: think he comes in every day and treats it like

1337
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: he's a rookie. He doesn't think he's above anybody. He

1338
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 6: always wants to absorb, and he wants to learn from everybody,

1339
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 6: Like he's asking everybody question from Tony Jefferson to Derwin

1340
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: to K two. I mean, I know when Zoon's around,

1341
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 6: he's asking Zount questions. I mean, he's asking me questions,

1342
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 6: He's asking DP quite like he just wants to know

1343
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: as much information as he can. And when you have

1344
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 6: a young guy like that, you just want to keep

1345
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: pouring back into him because you know he wants to

1346
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 6: be great and you see it in the way he

1347
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 6: carries himself, and we're all super big tarhe fans because

1348
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 6: this is the way he carries himself, the way he's

1349
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 6: in the locker room. He's definitely a team guy and

1350
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 6: we love having guys like that in the locker room

1351
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 6: and super excited for his future because, like as you said,

1352
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 6: like somehow he's always on the ball and like he

1353
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 6: I remember during camp we were talking about that. He

1354
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, like I'm gonna get picks, like this

1355
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 6: is what I do, Like I can do that, Like

1356
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 6: this is this is me. Like if you watch my

1357
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 6: college take, this is what I do. I was like,

1358
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 6: all right, like see, we see And then he's out

1359
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 6: here doing it and it's just super super exciting to

1360
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 6: watch him play at a high level and all this

1361
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 6: hard work he's putting in and starting to show, and

1362
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 6: I'm just glad the world's seeing it.

1363
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: So let's talk rivalries. And you know, maybe I'm off

1364
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: on this because I'm just I'm an old man. So

1365
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: I kind of think back to the coach Gerhart and

1366
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: the Norco knocking off Centennial and how big of a

1367
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: deal that was. So Norco Centennial Oregon I called a

1368
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: couple of wars. I was fortunate enough to do that,

1369
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: So Oregon, Oregon State. And now that you're new to it,

1370
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, you've only been through one, but Chargers Chiefs,

1371
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: Like how do they all compare your high school rivalries,

1372
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: your college rivalries to your NFL E you go like

1373
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Packers, Viking something like that, Like how do

1374
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: they all stack up?

1375
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: I think high schools are I would say personally.

1376
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 6: Because like you grow up with those kids, like you

1377
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 6: grow up around like you're playing Pop Warner with those kids.

1378
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 6: You play AU basketball, you're playing baseball, You're playing against

1379
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 6: these kids since eight to eighteen, and so you kind

1380
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 6: of build up that rivalry throughout your entire childhood, so

1381
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 6: it's kind of just like a pure rivalry. I think

1382
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 6: when you get to the college levels, for like the

1383
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 6: fan bases or a state, like when you's talk about

1384
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 6: the Civil War, like I know, like houses are divided

1385
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 6: in Oregon, like it's make or break. Like I played

1386
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 6: with a guy in Minnesota played office a line at

1387
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 6: Oregon State, and his wife went to Oregon, so it's

1388
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 6: like they have that little battle between their own house.

1389
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: So it's just like that game means a lots of

1390
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 6: people in that state, So to go out there and

1391
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 6: do that, just try to get that win for them

1392
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 6: is a lot. And then in the league, it's kind

1393
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 6: of similar when it comes to fan bases, but it's

1394
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 6: also like you played against guys in college as well,

1395
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 6: so it's kind of a mixture of both and it's.

1396
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: Definitely interesting to do.

1397
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 6: But I think it doesn't hold as much weight as

1398
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 6: it does in college and high school just because there's

1399
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: so much change throughout the years and there's very few people.

1400
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: Who stay on the same team for their entire career.

1401
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: So like you got like Derwin and Pat played against

1402
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 6: each other the entire time, but there's so many other

1403
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 6: like myself. That's my first time, so there's kind of

1404
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 6: a little overlap, but you understand it through the history

1405
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 6: and you kind of respect it because it goes back

1406
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 6: to the guys who played before you, and that's what

1407
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 6: you really do it for the guys who played before you,

1408
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 6: because it means to them as much as it means

1409
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: to you.

1410
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Staying on the Oregon side, obviously, Heisman Trophy is coming up,

1411
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: you know, gent from Boise and Travis Hunter, but your quarterback, Gabriel,

1412
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 4: he's in the conversation do you want to while you're

1413
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 4: on the podcast you want to make a push for what?

1414
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: Do you think?

1415
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 6: I'm always gonna push for the Ducks, But I think

1416
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 6: all those kids are playing amazing ball right now.

1417
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 3: A lot of I would hate to be on.

1418
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 6: Those committees and vote for anything right now, especially for

1419
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 6: the Heisman, because there's, like you said, there's a lot

1420
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: of great players out there doing doing an amazing job

1421
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 6: for our team, and hopefully he's able to edge out

1422
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 6: the other two and whin the Heisman and bring another

1423
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 6: one back home. But yeah, I think he's playing at

1424
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 6: a really high level, and I think at the end

1425
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 6: of the day, like you want to win the National championship.

1426
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 6: I think he'll take that over a heisman because the

1427
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 6: end of the day, you want to win the team

1428
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: accolades over the individual ones because everyon's gonna remember you

1429
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 6: holding that trophy. But I mean, heisman goes a long

1430
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 6: way too, though I can't.

1431
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: You got to put a rose in them out there

1432
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: out all right for you? All right, last thing we'll

1433
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: finish up with with this. We'll get it back to

1434
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: Chargers Chiefs because you mentioned it with Derwin. I mean,

1435
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: it's six in a row. But it's just the way

1436
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: that the games have played out. And I know coach

1437
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: as you guys focused every single Sunday's Championship Sunday kind

1438
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: of thing. But can you kind of feel it? Can

1439
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: you feel it from the guys Justin and Khalil and

1440
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Joey that have been here, they kind of been through

1441
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: some of those games that come down to the final minutes.

1442
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: Does it feel can you feel the Chiefs Chargers thing

1443
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: kind of going on this week around here?

1444
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1445
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 6: If you feel that Chiefs Chargers thing, you definitely feel

1446
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 6: like the playoff atmosphere because you understand the magnitude of

1447
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 6: this game.

1448
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: It is essentially a playoff game.

1449
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 6: And when we go out there and we still want

1450
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: to have a chance on the division to win it,

1451
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 6: we have to win this game. So go out there

1452
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 6: and treat like a playoff game and really embrace what

1453
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 6: it is. Playing in Kansas City, i Arrowhead at night.

1454
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a big time game, national television. So

1455
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a fun one for sure. So you

1456
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 6: got to go out there and make sure you're prepared

1457
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 6: the right way and bring your best game because everybody

1458
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 6: will be watching and everybody wants to see the outcome.

1459
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: Is it a work shirt and a lunch pill?

1460
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: Definitely?

1461
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm coming with you.

1462
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 3: I got to go buy from home depot to We're

1463
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: gonna get it then for sure.

1464
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: All right, well we appreciate it. Dreuy, congratulations on a

1465
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: heck of an effort on Sunday all season long, and

1466
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: stay healthy.

1467
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: Keep it going, yes, sir, thank you so much.

1468
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: All Right, it's gonna do it for us here on

1469
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. Thanks for checking us out. As we always

1470
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: point out, if you don't mind rate, uh, maybe you

1471
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: leave a comment, pass it along to friends. It's how

1472
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: we keep this thing growing, whether it's on the podcast

1473
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: or here on the YouTube. If you're watching it. However

1474
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: you do it, we appreciate you, thanks for checking us out,

1475
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: and we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 3: Step Step