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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: All right here it is. It's Monday, February tenth, two

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Speaker 3: than twenty five. We have a couple of football players

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Speaker 3: on the football field, and they really just won Yourrisily

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Speaker 3: day here in Dallas. There's one player. I thought there

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Speaker 3: were a couple out there. Maybe okay, the other guy

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Speaker 3: was helping out. Oh okay, No, it was the second

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Speaker 3: one out. Oh okay. We got a debate right right now.

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Speaker 3: Well they better.

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Speaker 4: Start doing so it's right, Well, that's might be the

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Speaker 4: most positive thing you say to Dak. Prescott's out there

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Speaker 4: doing that was.

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Speaker 2: Dak.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't resistance, all right, very good behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: You don't get that anywhere else.

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Speaker 5: So he chooses today.

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Speaker 3: No, we chose today.

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Speaker 4: He's been four times away.

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Speaker 5: That good stuff there right now if I was home.

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Speaker 3: So it's his helper guy, and we've got his helper.

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Speaker 4: Guy, well, his assistant or whatever We've.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot to get to here. Yes, there's so

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Speaker 3: much to talk about. We get changes on the coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: additions to the coaching staff. We got the combine coming

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Speaker 3: up here in a couple of weeks. We got free

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Speaker 3: agencies starting after that, we got the draft coming up.

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Speaker 3: There's so much to talk about on this edition A

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Speaker 3: mix shure.

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Speaker 5: You're not doing all of that today.

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Speaker 2: We're not doing I know, we're not doing all of

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Speaker 2: that inclusion of the tournament?

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Speaker 3: Yeah and uh yeah, yeah, who won the who won

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Speaker 3: the tennis tournament?

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Speaker 4: Sure of Paul Love?

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Speaker 3: I believe you say it, Shop of olive, Shop of hollow,

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Speaker 3: shop of olive, Lile Love writers.

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Speaker 2: I was reading out what rude and and somebody else and.

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Speaker 3: Why you were keeping up with the tennis too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they.

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Speaker 4: Didn't all the Americans schedule, they didn't win.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah, all right, So what do you want

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Speaker 3: to talk about? Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: Oh you think? Did you watch it?

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Speaker 5: I watched?

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, yeah, I watched it. Watched it. Then it

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Speaker 3: reminded me of the eighty five Bears.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. I didn't expect it. Did you expect that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you expected you expected that no, No, I didn't

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Speaker 2: need it. Matter of fact, I picked k C. I

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Speaker 2: pick k C because I just thought, you know, Mahomes

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Speaker 2: would do Mahomes things.

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Speaker 4: Well, when you're kind of out, they're trying to play

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Speaker 4: quarterback by yourself with nobody in front of you to

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Speaker 4: protect you.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Reminded me of the eighty five Bears, and it reminded

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Speaker 3: me of the nineties Cowboys against the Bills. Well, just

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Speaker 3: that defensive line and being able to put pressure on

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Speaker 3: a quarterback with a four man rush. They didn't blitz

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Speaker 3: the entire game. No, they didn't need to. That's right

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Speaker 3: in case.

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Speaker 5: He didn't try to run the pall of the entire game.

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Speaker 5: Why would they do that? Why would Andy Reid?

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Speaker 3: Especially when you know it was the professor.

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Speaker 2: He's the man he built that build that Eagles team

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 3: You know what, as bad as it was going ten

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Speaker 3: nothing in the second quarter, yeah, about ten minutes left

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Speaker 3: in the second quarter, it's a ten nothing game. And

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs had a horrible field position. Three times in

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Speaker 3: the first half they snapped the start drives like inside

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Speaker 3: their own ten yard and yet they felt like they

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Speaker 3: didn't run the football. They didn't play it like the

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Speaker 3: Giants did against the Cowboys in two thousand and seven

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Speaker 3: in the first in the divisional playoff round, where you're

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Speaker 3: just they can't they can't assume that mindset because they're

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They're supposed to be able to score points

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Speaker 3: at will. Were okay, that's right, And they needed this

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Speaker 3: it's got to be a punt is a good play.

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Speaker 4: Well they had five of them in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Well, but they needed a punt. They needed they needed

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Speaker 3: two more punts instead of interceptions deepen their own end

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Speaker 3: of the field. That's when the game ended.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about it this way. So it was

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Speaker 4: twenty four nothing at halftime.

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Speaker 3: And they needed to get to halftime thirteen nothing instead

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Speaker 4: In the one Philadelphia touchdown gets set up on a

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Speaker 4: third and five play that was incomplete and they got

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Speaker 4: a personal file right. There was one touchdown, another touchdown

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Speaker 4: returned interception right, and another touchdown was an interception that

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Speaker 4: they set up at the fourteen yard line. So really

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Speaker 4: all they did on their own in that first half

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Speaker 4: was they kicked a field.

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Speaker 3: Goal at all they did. And what the Chiefs did defensively,

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Speaker 3: they bottled up Barkley, which they had to do to

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Speaker 3: win this game, okay, And it was basically the quarterback

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Speaker 3: throwing fades down the right sideline was their offense.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't need anything else because what you saw

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Speaker 2: was a Chiefs defense that felt like they had to

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Speaker 2: match a Philadelphia defense. And that Padelphia defense has controlled

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Speaker 2: the entire season just masterfully. The way they've done it

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Speaker 2: every game that we've seen for Philadelphia. If you don't grind,

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Speaker 2: you can't grind with them. That's the way they play.

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Speaker 2: They grind, they grind, they grind, and they just wear

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Speaker 5: And that's what they did with KC. Mahomes could feel it.

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Speaker 2: You don't see Mahomes making those kind of plays consistently.

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Speaker 2: He's made some mistakes doing some games, that's why they

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Speaker 2: barely eked out a lot of games. But you don't

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Speaker 2: see him doing that consistently, filling such horrible passes. And

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Speaker 2: I have to say the front four for Philly is good,

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Speaker 2: but that secondary is just as good.

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Speaker 3: But and when you can rush only four, then you've

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Speaker 3: got seven covering whatever they're sitting out in cover.

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't automatically give you the advantage, especially against Mahomes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they have a second day that knows how to

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Speaker 2: play zone. They're a smart secondary and they don't make mistakes.

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Speaker 2: That's what this entire team is about. But we don't

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Speaker 2: make mistakes.

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Speaker 4: You're getting sacked six times, getting hit eleven times, and

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Speaker 4: having six plays tackled for losses. Your offensive line wasn't

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Speaker 4: worth diddley, and that's why they got beat the last

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Speaker 5: That's all I saw. I saw. That's all I say.

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Speaker 5: My home, that's all I saw.

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Speaker 4: As good as you are if you're getting hit that

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Speaker 4: many times. The one interception over the middle, he got

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Speaker 4: taking the sack.

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Speaker 5: Is judgment is affected. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Who you are, because then you start ghosts.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we talk about that, start seeing ghosts. I

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Speaker 2: don't care who you are. Your judgment is.

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Speaker 3: Affected, and it's and the Chiefs have some good players

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Speaker 3: on their offensive line. In fact, they've got a Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl center in Creed Humphrey, who I think if you

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Speaker 3: look at the tape he did not play a bad game.

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Speaker 3: They've got a Pro Bowl right guard in Tray Smith,

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Speaker 3: He is going to become the highest paid offensive guard

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Speaker 3: in football history, right exactly now. Going into the game,

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Speaker 3: he was going to be that, but he had to

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Speaker 3: go up against Jalen Carter in this game right and

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Speaker 3: was not good when he was at Jacksonville. He was terrible,

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Speaker 3: and they signed him to a huge contract because you

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Speaker 3: can't find tackles in this league, and so they had

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Speaker 3: to and then they have They're in the same boat

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys are. As far as trying to replace Tyron Smith,

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Speaker 3: they've been looking okay. They had Orlando Brown and they

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Speaker 3: were able to win Super Bowl with Orlando Brown, but

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Speaker 3: he leaves in free agency and they actually have Won Morris,

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Speaker 3: and he hasn't panned out at left tackle. They drafted

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Speaker 3: a Byu who's he's too green. He can't do it.

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Speaker 3: So they have to move one of the best guards

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Speaker 3: last night. They had to push him out to left

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Speaker 4: And then they had to play Callendo. I thought that

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Speaker 4: was the guy that did the comedy stuff on Fire.

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Speaker 5: Hey he's funny, by the way.

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Speaker 3: I like him, think he's funny.

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Speaker 4: I had to move him to left guard. So you

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Speaker 4: take care of your weak left tackle and brawn in Caliendo.

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Speaker 4: When I heard that call, I said, whoop.

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Speaker 3: And so the Chiefs are in position here, just like

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Speaker 3: they were coming out of that Super Bowl where they

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Speaker 3: entire offensive line basically because they're going to lose one

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Speaker 3: you don't have tackles. And Tony's up there in age

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Speaker 4: So this made me think of this. I thought of Everson,

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Speaker 4: you know, on the crawlers there at the bottom. I

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Speaker 4: guess it was during postgame stuff. I was watching, and

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Speaker 4: it's got everybody's mock draft, and I was always curious

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Speaker 4: to see who they got the Cowboys at twelve. You know,

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Speaker 4: one time it's gent, one time it's a defensive end,

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Speaker 4: and then one time it was a guard, and I

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Speaker 4: offensive line better be a priority. Just watching this because

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Speaker 4: as I told you last week watching the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 4: watching the East West Shrine game, those poor guys that

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Speaker 4: they don't have the top offensive lineman protecting those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: And here it was in the game that Kansas City

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Speaker 4: homes and all off.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the trenches. And that's no, that's nothing

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Speaker 2: new now that Kansas City was able to do a

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Speaker 2: lot without that offensive line because their defense was playing

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Speaker 2: so well, but they really couldn't handle that type of

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Speaker 2: skiing that Philadelphia is accustomed to having, and that is

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Speaker 4: I mean, what about you saw what you're having trouble protecting?

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Speaker 4: What about a screen past? What about they didn't do it?

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Speaker 5: They do one screen pass, I don't remember. I don't

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Speaker 5: think they did.

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Speaker 4: And they finally threw a smoke screen and it's worthy.

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Speaker 3: And The thing is the Chiefs have been living off

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Speaker 3: that stuff in all these one score games that they

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Speaker 3: haven't been able to throw the ball downfield. They have

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Speaker 3: with their short passing game. But maybe it's because you

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Speaker 3: He was about to crying.

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Speaker 4: One thing they didn't point out about him. His best

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Speaker 5: For I didn't see that. My daughter told me about that.

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Speaker 4: He pointed out in the show.

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Speaker 5: Necessarily.

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Speaker 2: No, I won't exs and those are fine to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a it was a really good segment.

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Speaker 3: You know what. Switzer had that too, not here, no,

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Speaker 5: I could care less.

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Speaker 2: It's disregard, disregard for whatever you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: We're coming in here.

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Speaker 4: To do this.

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Speaker 3: Switzer got his Coaches Show, and there were so many

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Speaker 3: And he would say about the other team, uh, number

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And Jimmy had that same quality about it.

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Speaker 2: He did, he did, and and you got that that's

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Speaker 2: that's the way they played.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was we got a lot of catching up

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of well, especially the defensive line

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Speaker 5: A lot of works.

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Speaker 4: We played Philadelphia twice last.

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Speaker 3: He turned six. And but I said last night, now

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Speaker 5: Come on man both times.

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Speaker 3: At both times, it's right.

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Speaker 4: The first time they held Barkley, I looked it up

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Speaker 3: Game played out just like the last night's game.

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Speaker 4: And the second time he ran the ball thirty one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he got there and we couldn't stop them.

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Speaker 3: So there's so much to take away from why the

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Speaker 4: But I noticed that this coming off season they have

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Speaker 3: It's going to be tough for them to keep that together.

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Speaker 3: They didn't luck to him. They were smart enough to

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Speaker 4: Signed him for a one year, three point five million

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Speaker 3: Move home in the free agent waters and find and

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Speaker 4: Mickey Betten.

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Speaker 3: Is it Mackay Becky Betton? Mackay Beckton. There's another one

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Speaker 4: I know Brendan Graham didn't play the whole season, but

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Speaker 3: And he's old. He's going on thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 4: And he got back in time to play.

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Speaker 4: I think he had a torn was it a pecker tried?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what the injury was, but he's been out.

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Speaker 3: Milton Williams, third round pick out of Crowley, Texas, Louisiana

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Speaker 4: going to have some cap problems. But again it worked.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you if you sell out like that,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean way the Rams did when they finally

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Speaker 4: He would right, he was in their backyard right and.

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Speaker 3: By the way, then they gave up a guy that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, he's there Josh Sweat basically, and Josh Sweat,

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Speaker 4: And their offensive line played well.

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Speaker 3: And they found a guy that played Australian rule Australian

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Speaker 4: Funny how that works out offensive line and defensive line.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't just go there. I mean, we got

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Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Hurts did a great job. I think

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Speaker 4: How many times you think the Super Bowl MVP quarterback

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Speaker 4: Seventeen passes. You know what, It made me go back

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Speaker 4: and look, the Cowboys lost games to quarterbacks completing eleven passes,

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Speaker 2: And that's just that's the main thing about That's why

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Speaker 4: And the one turnover might as well have been a punk.

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Speaker 4: Thing because he's not kicking a sixty yard field I

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Speaker 2: Was smart for Case to understand exactly what was going

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Speaker 2: Jayleen some credit, man, I couldn't. I'm in the dog

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Speaker 2: gone room with the family. They're cheering for Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 5: It's not because he's a black kid. For you know,

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Speaker 2: The house all about Patrick Mahomes, Well, he's black too,

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Speaker 5: He don't have black representations.

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Speaker 2: what they That's what they like about Jayalen Hurt. His

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Speaker 2: was going through the house. Me and my brother in

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Speaker 5: But also just seeing.

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Speaker 2: Him finally get that that monkey off his back. You know,

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Speaker 2: the guy did a great job and he handles himself

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Speaker 2: as a pro everywhere it goes. So you just have

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Speaker 2: you know I'm not rooting for him, but you got

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Speaker 2: to understand why Philadelphia has him.

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Speaker 3: As I remember, the Cowboys were raving about him. You

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Speaker 3: know that was just when he came out in the draft.

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Speaker 3: It was the Zoom interviews, uh, and they were raving

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Speaker 3: about they interviewed Jalen and they loved him and his

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Speaker 3: interview with him. The thing that I love about Jalen

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Speaker 3: And you go back in the National Championship game twenty

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Speaker 3: leads him to the win National Championship gamezy, and he

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Speaker 3: day and age of the transfer portal will do. He

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Speaker 3: though Tua is the starting quarterback, he's the backup. I

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Speaker 3: think in that season he finally got an opportunity, maybe

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Speaker 3: or something and he came in right, and so he

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Speaker 3: sticks it out. And yeah, he did eventually graduate, I

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Speaker 3: mean eventually transfer, but he waited until he graduated from

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Speaker 3: Alabama and so he fulfilled his whole commitment on a

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Speaker 3: scholarship at Alabama, and then he transferred to Oklahoma, goes

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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma and leads them to the college football the

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Speaker 3: way he did. And that's right.

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Speaker 2: He was able to change the entire way he thought

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Speaker 3: That ou, Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley took him. He accepted it, he took it

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Speaker 2: all in. He changed his entire way of playing football.

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Speaker 2: To me, I thought that was pretty amazing. I brought

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Speaker 2: that up in here more than once. And so when

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Speaker 2: you look at all of that, you look at what

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Speaker 2: Tua went from there, and you look at where he

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Speaker 2: went from there.

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Speaker 5: He did not let that experience.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a great lessons anyone, for anyone who

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Speaker 3: doesn't get their way gets benched or loses a job,

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Speaker 3: even outside of football, where you just persevere and do

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Speaker 3: the right thing. And uh, you know, and he became

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Speaker 3: a leader on the team, you know, and you know

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Speaker 3: he can squat seven hundred pounds. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 3: the videos of him in the locker room at OU

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Speaker 3: mon as he's doing squats and stuff. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: You really can't say enough good.

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Speaker 4: Do we consider them an Ou quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Or in Alabama?

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one because somebody brought this up. He's

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Speaker 4: the fourth Alabama quarterback to win an MVP in the

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's amazing. That's pretty good stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who came up with that, but I

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Speaker 3: ask Okay, let me ask you this. Let me ask you.

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Speaker 3: This is Troy Aikman an Oklahoma quarterback or a UCLA quarterback? Okay,

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Speaker 3: then Jalen Hurts is an Oklahoma court he played there, right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Okay, Well Troy didn't win a national championship.

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Speaker 3: Who neither did Jalen Hurts? He got he got bitched.

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Speaker 3: He got bitched.

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Speaker 5: He was on Alabama championship.

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Speaker 3: Aikman did eighty five. They won a national championship, and

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Speaker 3: Aikman's on the team.

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Speaker 4: He got hurt, a broken leg, he got, he got hurt.

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Speaker 5: Was he even ever eligible?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he was the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He got hurt.

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Speaker 3: He got hurt against Miami Jimmy Johnson and Miami. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Jamel Holloway comes in and leads him to the national championship.

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Speaker 3: It's almost identical to Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: And then he said, I better transfer. We're gonna let

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Speaker 5: Unless you know how good is.

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Speaker 4: Defensive tackle, wide receiver, running back, offensive lineman. That's all

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Speaker 4: we need defensive end, and that those five things. When

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Speaker 5: Gotta be in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that the Eagles have done is they've

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Speaker 2: But but you have also you have to you have

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Speaker 3: Well, but it's like it's like the Chiefs problem at

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Speaker 5: So then they need to make a move some other way.

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Speaker 5: Right, now they wore them out. Now, okay, we need

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Speaker 4: So and then look at it. The last time the

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Speaker 4: All Right, your last two times you need left tackle,

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Speaker 3: Well, even when CD was drafted, it was a seventh

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the top fifteen, but it was a seventeenth pick,

662
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: and you take CD Lamb because it was just you

663
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: couldn't obvious because when you take when you take Zach

664
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 3: Martin at sixteenth ten years ago, it was obvious that's

665
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: the pick.

666
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: And they were fortunate enough that year taking Lamb where

667
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: they did and still getting the cornerback in the second

668
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: round trailer.

669
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 5: So you got twelfth pick this year, twelfth thick.

670
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: So it's not easy, but it's a little bit easier

671
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: to figure out which way you want to go and

672
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: who's going to be available at that time.

673
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because you can. You can come pretty close

674
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: to predicting those first eleven pick. There you go, right,

675
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: So you should have an idea and a choice of

676
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: three or four guys. I would think, okay, but you've

677
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: got to hit.

678
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so you go crazy if they take a tight

679
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: end a little bit, Yes, me too. What if it's

680
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren from Penn State who's more than a tight end?

681
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: Can he play tackle? No? Because I locked Kelly trying

682
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 4: to block.

683
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah, I'm with you all of that.

684
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: That's just window dressing. Give me somebody.

685
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: But the issue on the tackle is you just spent

686
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: a first round pick on your left tackle.

687
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 4: But what could have been a second round pick?

688
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: It was twenty nine, right, right, But I mean still,

689
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: it's a top thirty pick that you spent on a

690
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: left hindnkele. So how many years in a row are

691
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: you going to take left tackles?

692
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: It better be somebody in that. I don't care what

693
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: side he plays. I just want him to be able

694
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: to play on that offense.

695
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: Well how about yeah, position versatility, And that's one of

696
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: the issues. Tyler Goydon, he's a tackle, he's not playing guard.

697
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: And then now that Terrence Steele in playing guard right now.

698
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: So when you don't have the position versatility, Tyler Smith

699
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: can play tackle, org he's proven it already. Well, you got,

700
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: but you don't move. That's what I'm saying. Tyler Smith

701
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 3: can't move out to tackle because godon can't go in

702
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 3: and play guard.

703
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 5: No.

704
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: No, And that's why this frame this draft is so

705
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: important because those two picks, you still got a hope

706
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: that they can come through right the way BB came through. Now,

707
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: I need my defensive tackle and my left tackle to

708
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 4: be able to play at a high level.

709
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: That's why I was big on drafting. I liked in

710
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: the second round. It would have been the second round

711
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: pick as it was, because he was an early third

712
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: round pick by washing and Brandon Coleman out of TCU

713
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 3: because he had the position versatility where he could play

714
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: tackle or guard. He started at left tackle for Washington

715
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: this year. But you could have made the decision as

716
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: are you better off with Tyler Smith at left tackle

717
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: or this guy left tackle on the other would play

718
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: guard and if you got some position flexibility to deal with.

719
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: There, Okay, I also got to get this off my chest.

720
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: Oh, Darren Woodson, how does that happen?

721
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: Let me see that.

722
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: So there were four Hall of Famers voted in this year,

723
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: and three of them out of a you could have

724
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: a maximum of five, and they only three got the

725
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: eighty percent vote. I guess that is required.

726
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: That's the biggest, the biggest slap in the face that

727
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: only three of all those guys of fifteen got eighty.

728
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Percent of the vote.

729
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: And what he didn't get, it's not like somebody got

730
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: in in place of him, right, because there was still

731
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: two more spots, two more spots for the Cowboys' career

732
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: tackle leader, the guy that's tied with Charles Hayley for

733
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: the most Super Bowl rings in franchise history.

734
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: And the thing about it is, and I know.

735
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: Staubach got three, but he didn't play in that first

736
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: No he didn't. I mean he got he got two.

737
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: This is a problem with committees.

738
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: Okay, there's too many people on the East coast.

739
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: Well, it's also problem with committees because you don't have

740
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: the big picture in mind. Okay, And so all right,

741
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: when you have set voting procedures, so you got to

742
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: have eighty percent whatever, Okay, And there are a lot

743
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: of really good candidates here and so the vote is

744
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: going to get split. So the vote gets split. But

745
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: now what happens going forward is you have to have

746
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: the presence of mind to understand next year, Yes, you've

747
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: got okay, you have the same rules, okay, where only

748
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: five can get in. And you had a whole bunch

749
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: that were right on the border this year, but you

750
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: didn't fill your allotment. You only took three out of five.

751
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 3: You had two spots that should have been taken this year.

752
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: Next year, Drew Brees is in the class and he

753
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: is a first ballot Hall of Famer for sure, slam

754
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: dunk all right. Larry Fitzgerald is in the class, and

755
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: he is a first ballot Hall of Famer with fourteen

756
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: hundred receptions in his career. So now you've only got

757
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: three spots open for next year. And so whoever was

758
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: on the bubble this year, and that I'm not even

759
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: including Frank Gore, Philip Rivers, and Jason Whittener are in

760
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: the mix next year too as first first year on

761
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: the ballot. But and you had first year on the

762
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: ballot guys this year in Luke Keickley and Eli Manning

763
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: and Terrell Suggs and Marshall, Yanda whatever. But right, and

764
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: so you got those three and so if Eli's getting

765
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: in next year, now you only got two spots. So

766
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: for a Darren Woodson who's now getting into the twilight

767
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: of his modern day candidacy, this was what a couple

768
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 3: of years. The next year will be his eighteenth years.

769
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: And now you're sitting there going, Okay, where's the spots

770
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: available for a guy like him? Everson ran into the

771
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: same thing when he went through.

772
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: You know, And and when I looked at some of

773
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: the projections, the only guy they got right was Antonio

774
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: Gates for the modern day guy these people predicted to

775
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: like an ESPN NFL Doling sharp bro. Now that but

776
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: that's okay because it's on. It's the well, it isn't

777
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: because it's a veteran guy. No, it's not just that

778
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: he's like he didn't even play that many years, right.

779
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying, yeahardless of what category.

780
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, so he gets on Holme Grin

781
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: didn't get in. And who was the other guy that

782
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: was up as a.

783
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 5: That was just a beef. That was crazy.

784
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: But now now Eric Allen, I'm good with Eric Allen

785
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: because he's in his eighteenth year of eligibility. He's got

786
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: fifty four interceptions in his career, only three fewer than

787
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: Everson Walls, and he only had one All Pro.

788
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: Did he win a Super Bowl?

789
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 5: No? No?

790
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: Why do the Super Bowls only count for quarterbacks?

791
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: Right?

792
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: Because the argument for Eli Manning is he won two

793
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. Well, Darren Woodson won three, and he was

794
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 4: on top ranked defenses at least three.

795
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Eric Allen deserves it and over

796
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: Darren Woodson, but I'm saying fill out the class.

797
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's let's fill it out. When you when you

798
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: when you counted up the jump ship, you know what,

799
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: when you counted up and you have three two more

800
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 4: open spots, revote and say, okay, we got two spots.

801
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: Or throw out the requirement of eighty per Just the

802
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: top five, next the top five. Hey, why do you

803
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: have to have eighty percent? Isn't that what they you

804
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: if you got such a good list of fifteen finalists

805
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: that the vote's going to be split, right, Okay, just

806
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: take the top five.

807
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: Cowboys have eight defensive players in the Pro Football Hall

808
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: of Fame. Darren Woodson has more tackles than any of them.

809
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: Right And if you saw this tackle list in the

810
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: history of the of the guys, he's got the fourth

811
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: most tackles of all defensive backs Laura Malloy, Brian Dawkins,

812
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: Ronde Barber, and they all played more than his twelve seasons,

813
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: I mean well one three and fifty tackles. And not

814
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: only that, he was second in Cowboys history in special

815
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: teams tackle.

816
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 5: Let's let's just be clear about this.

817
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: None of that means a damn to the to the voters,

818
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: it means nothing to the voters. You can have all

819
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: kind of backing that you want, you can have all

820
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: kind of scenarios that you can come up with.

821
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: That's an excellent piece of paper right there.

822
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty freaking cool, But that doesn't mean anything to

823
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: the voters.

824
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 5: Nothing at all.

825
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: This is all about me getting my guy in and

826
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: then I'll help you with your guy, right all.

827
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 5: That's what is all about, you know.

828
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: And I'm one of those guys, even from a senior standpoint.

829
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: I got my guy. He's gonna push me.

830
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna push me again next year, you know,

831
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: I tell him, don't man, don't worry about it. Don't

832
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: don't lose any friends, all that over me, right, But

833
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: they're going to push their guy because that's the pride

834
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: that some of those Hall of Fame voters have. But

835
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: you've got some young guys out there. They don't give

836
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: a damn. They don't give a damn or know what

837
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: Darren Woodson was all about. They could care less what

838
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: Woodson did. They could care about all those little idiosyncrasies there.

839
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: They don't care. They always they already have their God

840
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: and by the time that stuff is already figured out

841
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: in count of that, they're at home in bed. They're

842
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: not even watching the damn Super Bowl.

843
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: You know.

844
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm just telling that's what the report. And these Hall

845
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: of Fame voters are like that. A lot of them

846
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: are so young now that they they could care less

847
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: about much Darren wasn't much less Everson Wallas. They don't

848
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: care because they're not gonna look it up that you're

849
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: not their guy. I'm in this area, you're in that area.

850
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: It's all about everyone hiding the chips. That's all they're doing,

851
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: hiding the chips.

852
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 4: So I meant to I left it on my desk.

853
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated the last issue that had the sports person

854
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: of the year. On the cover of some own biles.

855
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 4: They got a committee of thirty seven guys to vote

856
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 4: for their top fifty games in football history. Cowboys had

857
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: six games in there. Five of them were losses.

858
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 5: Always, always.

859
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I have noticed that any time that even if you

860
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: go on YouTube and you try to find a great

861
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: game between the Cowboys and somebody else, they're going to put.

862
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 5: Up the losses first. The only great losses that the Cowboys,

863
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: the only great losses.

864
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: The only win was the Hill Mary. Everyone losses, the

865
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: first two six bowl. I shouldn't have said that first

866
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: two super bowls. Ice Bowl was No. One out of fifty,

867
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: number four San Francisco. Yeah, I know, I've been there,

868
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: but you got your picture.

869
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 5: Why is that surprised.

870
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: I saw that? I said, I don't know if I

871
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: have the heart to.

872
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 5: Show I'm like bulletproof. Now.

873
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: Well, I've been sixty five years old. I've been dogs

874
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: out by the Hall of Fame. I didn't even get

875
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: my first my Modern day. I got one year of

876
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: modern Day, one year. I got twenty eighteen. Before that,

877
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't even considered to be put into the mix.

878
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: With fifty seven a Super Bowl.

879
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Speaker 4: And out of those thirty seven people on that committee,

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Speaker 3: All Right, Mickey was just talking about the Sports Illustrated

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Speaker 3: list of the top most memorable games in NFL history,

938
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Speaker 3: which came out last week. Their list of survey of

939
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Speaker 3: however many people in the Ice Bowl, and it.

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Speaker 4: Was from like nineteen, the fifty year six fifty nine

941
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Speaker 4: years of Super Bowl, Super.

942
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Speaker 3: Bowl, which is why the Ice Bowl, even though it

943
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: was not a it was in the super Bowl era

944
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: super Bowl. That's right, that was super Bowl so and

945
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: that was December thirty first, nineteen sixty seven. Uh, and

946
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Speaker 3: that was number one on the list. I got the

947
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: list here. Number two on the list was the Immaculate

948
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: Reception Oakland and Pittsburgh in nineteen seventy two.

949
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: And it wasn't all super Bowls.

950
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: It was right, they're in the super Bowl, so that

951
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: was a playoff game. Number three on the list was

952
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: the Joe Namath Guaranteed Colts Jets Super Bowl super Bowl Three.

953
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 3: Number four on the list is we won't talk about

954
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Speaker 3: that one.

955
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 5: Oh that's four, yeah, they catch.

956
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: Number four on the list most memorable game. Number five

957
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: was the Falcons Patriots super Bowl where they come back

958
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: from twenty five points down in the second half.

959
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Speaker 4: And actually number four I think was because that was

960
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 4: the start of San Francisco's run run in the eighties.

961
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Speaker 5: So it didn't have to be a super no, no.

962
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: No, any any game.

963
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Number six and and the fact that it denied the

965
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: Cowboys a spot in the super Bowl.

966
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Number six was the David Tyree catch Super Bowl eight

967
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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven. Season, and then number seven was

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Speaker 3: is the Tuck Rule game? Raiders Patriots playoff game in

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Speaker 3: the snow in two thousand and two, two thousand and

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Speaker 3: one season, Oilers Bills the comeback? The Bills come back

971
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Speaker 3: in that game. Frank Wright game was number eight on

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Speaker 3: the list in nineteen January nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 4: Oh ever since you made it?

974
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Speaker 5: Oh well, you tell me that one number nine?

975
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Speaker 4: Remember counting the Cowboys number one?

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Speaker 5: Thanks a joke man?

977
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Speaker 3: Number nine?

978
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Speaker 5: Why keep me? He wants to keep me down?

979
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: No, No, I forgot about it. I had my list.

980
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: So ever since you made the top ten twice.

981
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Speaker 4: I.

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Speaker 5: Made this illustrated poster.

983
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Speaker 4: Did the San Francisco come back against Cincinnati? Was that ten?

984
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Speaker 3: Tenth was Broncos? Brown's is the fumble yep alreaty Schottenheimer

985
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: which brings us to Schottenheimer's Cowboys here, Yes, there you go. Okay,

986
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: what do you make of the additions to the coaching staff?

987
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: And over the weekend, doyn't think Junior Adams has become official,

988
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: but it was reported yesterday the wide receivers coach offensive

989
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: coordinate co offensive coordinator with Oregon is supposedly being hired.

990
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: Here as a wide receivers coach. Mickey has a puzzled

991
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Speaker 3: look on this.

992
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: I was trying to see I had kind of written

993
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: down my guys that they recently.

994
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 3: And then Connor Riley is the offensive line coach at

995
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: Kansas State who is coming here as the offensive line

996
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: coach that is official. And he was Cooper Beebe's offensive

997
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: line coach at Kansas State. Those are the two most

998
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: recent junior Adams.

999
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 5: By the ways.

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00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: Interesting as a receivers coach, he was. He's one of

1001
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: the most respected wide receivers coach in the college game.

1002
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 3: It was at Oregon the last three years, I think

1003
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: two or three years, and but prior to that at Washington,

1004
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: so he had Romo Dounse at Washington. He had Puka

1005
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: Nakua as well at Washington. But what's really interesting is

1006
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: you go back. He was the receivers coach at Eastern

1007
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: Washington when Cooper Cup was there, and Cooper Cup says,

1008
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: there is no coach who has had more of an

1009
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: impact on his career than Junior Adams.

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Speaker 4: And did you point out when he was at I'm sorry,

1011
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: I was looking for my stuff. At Oregon, he was.

1012
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: The co co offensive coordinator as the wide receiver. Another

1013
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: interesting with Cooper cup I don't have the numbers in

1014
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: front of me. I could find it, but I don't

1015
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: have time to His freshman year, he set the all

1016
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Speaker 3: time NCAA record for a fresh shman receiver at Eastern

1017
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: Washington with Junior Adams as his coach, which was like

1018
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: ninety five catches for sixteen hundred yards and twenty one

1019
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: touchdowns or something like that. And you go back even

1020
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 3: further for Adams, he was when he got his start

1021
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: into coaching. He was on the staff at Prosser High

1022
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: School in Washington. That is where Kellen Moore went to

1023
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: high school, and Kellen Moore's dad, Tom Moore, was the

1024
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: head coach there, and Kellen Moore's brother, who is now

1025
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: at Missouri on the staff at Missouri, Kirby Moore of

1026
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator there. He sat like the all time receiving record.

1027
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: He was a wide receiver there. Kellen was already at

1028
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 3: Boise State when Junior Adams was there, but he coached

1029
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: Kirby Moore.

1030
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: Only do one more on the more family. Okay, his

1031
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: grandfather was a state like an all I don't know

1032
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: it was an award like All State in Illinois at

1033
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: my high school.

1034
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: Small world is small and Kellen Moore has has it

1035
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: been announced yet that he's the head coach of the Saint.

1036
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 4: No even if Siriano twice I heard him say come on,

1037
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: we got to play it back. I think I think

1038
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: it's a done deal there.

1039
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

1040
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: So the offense Ryan never get a job, Uh, not

1041
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: re No, Rob Bryan.

1042
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: Rob Bryan went to USC. He's on Lincoln Riley's staff

1043
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: at USC.

1044
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Rex said I'm the job. I'm the best

1045
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: candidate for the Jets. Was the candidate for Nook this morning.

1046
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 5: He's still sitting up there as a pundit.

1047
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 4: So the offensive line coach you mentioned that, that's done right, Yes,

1048
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: Connor Riley, he was the offensive coordinator in KSE State,

1049
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: so he coached Bbie and deuced Fawn.

1050
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 5: Okay.

1051
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: Uh. It seems like he was also the offensive line

1052
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: coach at North Dakota State when they won a couple

1053
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: championship and then they and.

1054
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: He actually was there when Hunter Lipke was at North

1055
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: Dakota State freshman year. Ah.

1056
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: Very good. So it seems like they've put a high

1057
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 4: uh precedence on the offensive line since your offensive line coach,

1058
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: your offensive coordinator, offensive assistance, and I think they hired

1059
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 4: another offensive assistant. Oh that was a wide receiver type

1060
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: guy to Kwan Underwood.

1061
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: Like an assistant wide receivers coach.

1062
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they ended up I think did they

1063
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 4: do Derek Foster. Yes, last time when we did the

1064
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: show they were in had at that named it.

1065
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1066
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: So there seems to be uh uh, you know, an

1067
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 4: emphasis on the offensive line coaching staff.

1068
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: Anyway it should be.

1069
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: So we'll see where. And if you look up Schottenheimer's

1070
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator history, he's had some pretty good running back.

1071
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: Or running well. He had number one rush offense at

1072
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: Seattle and then also back with the Jets.

1073
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1074
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that kind of gives you an idea of,

1075
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, what they're thinking at this point.

1076
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 3: It is interesting when you look at the veterans on

1077
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: the staff with the Eagles with Jeff Stotlin their offensive

1078
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: line coach, run game coordinator, Vic Fangio the defensive coordinator.

1079
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 3: The Cowboys coaching staff is trending to guys in their

1080
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 3: forties and fifties, a younger coaching staff, and which I

1081
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: like it from an energy standpoint and relating to players

1082
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 3: and so forth. And I think it was on our website.

1083
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: Jerry said something about the staff getting younger and it

1084
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: was like a ten year difference between this past staff

1085
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: to younger.

1086
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, I want to look before next week.

1087
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to look up how old the coaches were

1088
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: on the staff in the nineties when Jimmy was the

1089
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: head coach, and Wansteat and Butcher Davis and I mean

1090
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: they were all in the same age range.

1091
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe you know, early forties.

1092
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I'm tampo. But one step Nor Turner

1093
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: might have been one of the older ones coming to

1094
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: Tony Wise.

1095
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: Steve Hoffman, No, he he was with that group. They

1096
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 4: all had been at Pittsburgh together when Pittsburgh won the

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Speaker 4: national championship with Dorset.

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: He had to be a little older though.

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: The oldest guy was Dick Nolan.

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you throw, Yeah, that would be the oldest guy.

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01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: On all right, So Tony Wise when he came to

1102
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: the Cowboys would have been thirty eight years old. Oh wow,

1103
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: he's born in nineteen fifty one, so I must admit

1104
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: I thought he was older.

1105
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: He carried himself, you know when they did that, when

1106
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: they did that tribute to Jimmy, they had. It was

1107
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 4: an AI thing where they you know, superimposed what they

1108
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: looked like, and they showed him that his first year

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 4: at Oklahoma State. It was seventy nine. I believe I

1110
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: was on the Big Eight Skyriders tour before the season started,

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: and I remember going to Oklahoma State and meeting this

1112
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: guy named Jimmy Johnson, and I said to myself, Oh,

1113
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 4: this guy's going to take the Big Eight by storm,

1114
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: just the way he conducted his interviews that day, and

1115
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: sure enough he turned down.

1116
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I just real quick, I don't have to wait

1117
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: till next week on some of this stuff. Day one

1118
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: stet when the Cowboys, Uh, when he was hired here,

1119
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: he was thirty six years old.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say thirty eight.

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: He was thirty. He turned thirty seven in May of

1122
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: that year. Butch Davis was thirty seven years old. I

1123
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: didn't mention Tony Wise was thirty eight. So there you've

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 3: got an idea of.

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01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 4: How Campbell the guy probably still pretty young at that time.

1126
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: I think he's.

1127
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: Only he he was forty two. Okay, so there you go.

1128
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 4: I was trying to think who else was, you know,

1129
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 4: Hubbert Alexander was probably a little bit older than don't.

1130
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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Joe Brodsky, okays.

1132
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Speaker 2: The official link of the show is you guys are well, Chris.

1133
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 5: I could just feel Chris in there, just didn't.

1134
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: Heat it, keeping him from eating his lunch.

1135
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Speaker 5: Gentleman, Welcome to overtime.

1136
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: Joe Brodsky was the old Yeah, wow, he was well,

1137
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 3: he was fifty five, okay, so that was senior citizen.

1138
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 3: Dick Nolan probably was well, yeah, Dick let sixty. Yeah,

1139
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: all right, does it well?

1140
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 5: His shoulder older older than everybody.

1141
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: You know that story, don't you.

1142
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: Don't start, I'll tell it off the air.

1143
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: Just remember it for next week if you can remember

1144
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: it well, I got to write it down, write it lead.

1145
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: Then next week we'll be on Tuesdays. Oh that's right,

1146
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: next week's Tuesday, because monday's President.

1147
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: Excellent, thank you President today on Monday.

1148
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: So I told, I told Chris we could do it. So, yeah,

1149
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: we'll check with you. Guys were good, but I'll checking now.

1150
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm good.

1151
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: Sounds good? All right? In fact, I think I'll be

1152
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: writing cam Ward the night before the Davy will run

1153
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: over eleven o'clock.

1154
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: No, we did it at nine nine day? Was that

1155
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: Davey O'Brien next week.

1156
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Next Monday.

1157
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: So we went to that last year. If you want

1158
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,479
Speaker 4: to bring him with you, it'd be great.

1159
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: All right, We'll chat at you next Tuesday at nine

1160
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: am on mix Shots.

1161
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 5: Yeah Go Cowboys.

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