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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're on eating the Card Doctor, cruising along

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Speaker 1: this hour. By the way, this is an interview free hour,

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Speaker 1: So if you've got a question, get in and give

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Speaker 1: us a call at eight five five five six, so

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Speaker 1: ninety nine hundred. If you're listening to this on delayed broadcast,

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Speaker 1: then keep in mind that number is twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: You can call the car Doctor anytime, day or night.

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Speaker 1: We will call you back normally. It's Fast, Harry Fast.

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Speaker 1: Harry's out feeling under the weather this week. He teaches

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Speaker 1: vacation Bible school every year, and this year he was

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Speaker 1: with the kids for a week. And why don't you

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Speaker 1: know what? The kids got him sick. And I guess

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Speaker 1: that's Harry's penance. Maybe that's the way that works. But

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Speaker 1: he's feeling under the weather. We gave him the day off,

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Speaker 1: but he's out there listening, and he's there with the

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Speaker 1: He's here with us in spirit. By the way, Harry,

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Speaker 1: we gave your sandwich to the dog because we knew

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Speaker 1: she was hungry and we knew you wouldn't miss it.

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Speaker 1: So let's get over to John and Biloxi, Mississippi ninety

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Speaker 1: six christ in New Yorker, and some questions about a

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Speaker 1: transmission pen. John, Welcome to the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: How can I help you, sir Hi, I was going

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Speaker 2: to be changing the pan gasket and the filter and

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Speaker 2: the food in the pan. Okay, Now, I noticed when

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Speaker 2: I bought the new filter it comes with a rubber gasket.

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Speaker 2: But then I I'm reading in the factory service manual

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Speaker 2: it calls for a mopar silicon adhesive ceiling right on

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Speaker 2: the right.

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Speaker 1: And that's what and that's what I would use. We

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Speaker 1: actually use. You know, it doesn't have to be mopar specific.

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Speaker 1: They make it to a spec as long as you

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Speaker 1: use a good quality. The stuff that I've used for

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Speaker 1: years and years and years and years and years in

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Speaker 1: the shop is the right stuff from Permatext works. Great

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Speaker 1: black silicon tube is like in a big calk gun.

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Speaker 1: You can get it in small cheese whiz bottles too.

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Speaker 1: And if you just you know, make sure the pan

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Speaker 1: is clean, scrape it with a razor blade, let it,

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Speaker 1: you know, just like you don't need a lot, all right,

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Speaker 1: and you're just like thrusting a cake a little bit

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Speaker 1: of icing, Just make a thin line down the center.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you go to the inside of the bolts.

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Speaker 1: So that as it oozes and goos, it goes in

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Speaker 1: the direction of fluid, so it doesn't leak out through

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Speaker 1: the bolt holes, and you'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: That's in the black tube, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: Black tube. They only, to my knowledge, they only Permittext

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Speaker 1: only makes the right stuff in one color tube, and

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Speaker 1: only one color product. Years ago there used to be

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Speaker 1: blue and red and all these different colors, and I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if any of that is available anymore.

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Speaker 1: If it is, it's on the shelf so long, i'd

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Speaker 1: throw it away unless I could tell for sure what

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Speaker 1: the datecoade on it was. But the art, the right

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Speaker 1: stuff from Permatext, as RTV goes, is really the best.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing we use in the show.

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Speaker 2: Should let it for an hour before now.

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Speaker 1: If you read the bottom, it'll explain it to you.

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Speaker 1: We literally what we'll do is the way I do

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Speaker 1: that job is I'll undo all the pan bolts. Pan

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Speaker 1: comes down, change the filter, a little bit of some

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Speaker 1: SolV and spray wash out the pan a little bit,

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Speaker 1: body area, and while that's dripping, I'll start cleaning the pan.

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Speaker 1: Once I get the pan all clean. I'll dress the

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Speaker 1: of the transmission once again, and real quick pop it up.

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Speaker 1: So if I let it skin a total of three

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Speaker 1: to five minutes. Now, the secret is, I'll let it

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Speaker 1: skin on the bench just a little bit. I'll put

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Speaker 1: I put fluid in it. And that's actually doing it

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Speaker 1: longer than you have to. If you read the instructions

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Speaker 1: on the right stuff from permatext, they actually tell you

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Speaker 1: that you can use it right away. There's no time

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Speaker 1: if enough is good, more is better, and too much

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much for the information.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. John. You have a good rest of

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Speaker 1: the day. Let's go over and talk to Chauncey, South Williamsport, PA,

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Speaker 1: home of the World Series, Little League Little League World Series.

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Speaker 1: Close to it, right, that's in Williamsport. He's in South Williamsport.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct, Chauncey, Yes, yes, right, So how can

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Speaker 1: I help you today, sir?

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Speaker 3: I have a ninety eight Dodge Ram twenty five hundred,

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Speaker 3: and when I bought it, the guy told me that

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Speaker 3: the training was needed, some work done to it. Right,

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Speaker 3: he said it was the pressure. It's a shifts I anoid.

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Speaker 3: There's a shift s soelenoid when you take training cover off.

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Speaker 3: And he said that if I changed that selenoid that

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Speaker 3: the truck would work, it would shift. But right now

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Speaker 3: it's like because I jacked it up and the truck starts,

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Speaker 3: but when it's in part and I put it down

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Speaker 3: to gear, it doesn't go into gear at all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't. It doesn't pick up.

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Speaker 3: Trying to figure out if I should get a new

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Speaker 3: transmission or not.

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Speaker 1: All right, well let's let's let's try and see if

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Speaker 1: we can dope this out. First of all, how many

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Speaker 1: miles are on the truck.

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred and eighty four thousand miles, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, have you ever had the truck to the point

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Speaker 1: where it moved? In other words, have you ever been

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Speaker 1: able to drive it? Or you bought it?

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Speaker 3: No, bought it and had it towed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you bought it broke and so to speak. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Is the fluid level in the trans any good?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I've had checked the fluid level and the transmission

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Speaker 3: before I pulled the transmission pan off.

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Speaker 4: All right, and the fluids was fine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I said, is a truck would start? But like

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Speaker 3: even when I put it from park down in the gear,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't do nothing. Now, I also wanted to note

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Speaker 3: to you that when the truck was in neutral that

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Speaker 3: I could spin the tie. When it was jacked up,

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Speaker 3: I could spin the rear tires right, and the drive

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Speaker 4: When it was in neutral.

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Speaker 1: Well it should when you're if you've got if you've

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Speaker 1: the you should drive the drive shift. That's why, you know,

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Speaker 1: think about it like this. That's why if you put

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Speaker 1: it in neutral while the truck is on the ground, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll roll forward. Because there's there's no lock in the

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Speaker 1: transmission holding it. Oh okay, all right, so you know

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Speaker 1: that that I have no problem with. That makes perfect

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Speaker 1: sense to me. Let me ask you this. Have you

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Speaker 1: dropped the pan at all? Have you looked inside the transmission?

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Speaker 3: Actually, what I did, I pulled the pan off, and

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Speaker 3: I took the old selenoid off right, And but I

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Speaker 3: didn't want to go ahead and get a new selenoid

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Speaker 3: and then get a bunch of you know, transmission fluid,

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Speaker 3: because that holds quite a bit of transmission fluid. It

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Speaker 3: probably would have cost me like seventy five dollars in

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Speaker 3: transmission fluid, and then plus to get the part was

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Speaker 3: probably about seventy five dollars, So that rate there would

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Speaker 3: have ran me one hundred and fifty. And then if

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Speaker 3: that didn't fix it, when I go.

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Speaker 4: And I get a new training and put on it,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna cost me the transmission you know, and more fluid,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because you can't reuse the

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Speaker 4: same fluid.

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Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, But my question.

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Speaker 3: Was should I get a new transmission or how often

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Speaker 3: if you change that shift's ill anoid sensor? Well, let's

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Speaker 3: will that fix it or not?

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Speaker 1: Let's back up here a little bit because and part

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Speaker 1: of the problem is this could be a couple of

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Speaker 1: different transits. But I'm going to go on an assumption,

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Speaker 1: which we both know is a dangerous word, that this

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Speaker 1: is the transit has a trans relay, the trans relay.

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Speaker 1: Does this have a trans relaydy?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's an automatic transmission for a five point

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Speaker 3: two Dodge Ram and as it's a four speed automatic

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Speaker 3: and shifts annoy's anti locked.

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Speaker 1: All right. I bet if you look through the underhood

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Speaker 1: you're going to see a label relayed on the inside

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Speaker 1: of the covers the transmission relay. All right. If you

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Speaker 1: pull the trans relay, what that does is the transmission relay.

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Speaker 1: The reason that's there is because they're electronically controlling the

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Speaker 1: governor and the transmission itself. You take the trans relay out,

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Speaker 1: you're sort of putting the transmission in a mechanical mode,

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Speaker 1: except overdrive won't work, if that makes sense to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So if you pull the trans relay, you

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Speaker 1: should the transmission should start out in third gear. It'll

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Speaker 1: actually go into limp in. Okay, And I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: convinced from my seat here that you're probably going to

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Speaker 1: And if nothing happens, if you still put it in gear,

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Speaker 1: then my next comment would be pull the trans make

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Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of variables here. You don't

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Speaker 1: know the truck. You didn't buy it when it was running.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've seen cases where if the transmission filter

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Speaker 1: falls out of the transmission and it can't draw the

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Speaker 1: fluid out of the pan to feed the hydraulic circuits,

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Speaker 1: the train doesn't work either. But if you if you

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Speaker 1: pull that relay and the trans starts out in third year,

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Speaker 1: then we've got an external problem, all right, you know,

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Speaker 1: relay something electrical. Maybe we've got to solenrate issue internal

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Speaker 1: in the trans something along those lines.

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Speaker 3: But right now I have I pulled the transmission pan

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Speaker 3: off the fluid drain, and I pulled the filter out,

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Speaker 3: and then I.

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Speaker 4: Took that that's out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, and I took that out.

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Speaker 1: Well to make this work, you'd have to put it

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, and then put the fluid in and.

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Speaker 1: Then put fluid in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't want to have to it it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna work. I don't want to have to sink

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Speaker 3: another one hundred and fifty if I'm perhaps anyway.

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Speaker 1: So this is the roll of the dice. So at

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Speaker 1: that point, if the pan's already down and you can't

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Speaker 1: pull the relay to test it, then you've got to

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got to bite the bullet and put

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Speaker 1: a trans in it. But I've got to caution you.

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Speaker 1: You're putting a trans in a vehicle that you haven't driven.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't know what kind of shape the

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Speaker 1: So you've got it.

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Speaker 3: I looked at everything else. Everything else seems to be

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Speaker 3: pretty nice, pretty decent. Uh. I bought the truck and

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Speaker 3: the guy told me that he took it down to

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Speaker 2: I think he said it was right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a pressure control salood.

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Speaker 3: It would be anything past.

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Speaker 1: That, right, that's right. So at one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: that's the first step in the diagnosis on that trend.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're sort of ahead of that point. So

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Speaker 1: to put it, Chauncy. You're you're either gonna commit going

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is gonna bring it. It's there by mileage as

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Speaker 1: far as a pattern failure, right, and I know the how.

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Speaker 3: The specs are on the Dodge rams well in that

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Speaker 1: Right, that's correct, and right and again, yes and again

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with something fifteen years old, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: the call. The clock's gonna grab me. I've got to go.

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Speaker 1: Let me pull over to the side. You have any

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back ron Ny and the card Doctor. Glad

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Speaker 1: happy to be here, proud to serve That's right, you

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Speaker 1: got that right. That's what the Car Doctor is all about,

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Speaker 1: trying to help you solve your car problems. At eight

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Speaker 1: over to John in Keen, New Hampshire, two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: Audi with some Oh he's a callback. I remember this

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Speaker 1: was a couple of months ago. We were talking about

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Speaker 6: Well, I did get it done, run and the the

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Speaker 6: Watry company covered five eighty seven dollars worth of repair,

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Speaker 6: and I'll tell you the total amount in a moment.

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Speaker 6: He actually covered the water pump, nothing about the belt

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Speaker 6: lo and behold. Two days later, my son is home

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Speaker 6: and because I'm handicapped, and he says, hey, Dad, he said, oh,

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Speaker 6: he got a dent on the side and the car

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Speaker 6: there's a mid molding on it with a little stainless

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Speaker 6: So anyway, I called the guy and they denied it.

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Speaker 6: So I said, well, I guess I got to fix

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Speaker 6: believe this metallic silver.

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Speaker 1: Hey, John, let me stop you there in mid thought.

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Speaker 1: Stay put because we're gonna the clock's gonna take it.

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Speaker 1: This is a short segment, but we'll be back and

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Speaker 7: Hey, welcome back, Ronan the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to John from Keene, New Hampshire. John, you

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Speaker 1: were finishing up and I need a question. In about

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds, babe, on your two thousand and one out

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Speaker 1: of here, the clock's going to take us. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Okay? So, after I got the car home and and

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Speaker 6: by the way, I got the oem pots uh for

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Speaker 6: the timing belt right, all the rest of the stuff

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Speaker 6: that was intention and stuff. Yep, there's a leak on

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Speaker 6: the floor again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So.

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Speaker 6: Bring him back to him and they find it. There's

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Speaker 6: a little phanolic resent pipe oh maybe an inch and

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Speaker 6: diameter that goes to the oil cooler and that's is

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Speaker 6: where the leak was. So another six hundred dollars later

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Speaker 6: they fixed that. Right. Well, then I drive the car

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Speaker 6: and I've noticed that on a long pull on a

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Speaker 1: Right, I need a question. I need a question, John, okay,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise the clock's gonna cut you off and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go, bib What's what's what's your question?

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Speaker 6: Now? My question is this, And that car has got

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Speaker 6: a thermostatic fan right in it, right, And it was

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Speaker 6: mentioned to me that that fan could possibly be defective

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Speaker 1: Right, John. Here, You're question to me is is your

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Speaker 1: question to me is why is the car overheating?

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Speaker 6: It's not really overheating, this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, listen the clocks as I as I. You know, John,

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Speaker 1: I hate to cut you short. You got to go

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Speaker 1: back to whoever fixed it, Show them the problem, get

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Speaker 1: him to diagnose it. Whether it's covered under warranty or not,

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Speaker 1: I can't say, but from my seat here, they're responsible

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Speaker 1: to qu up with a reasonable answer and some sort

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Speaker 1: of a conclusion. I'm on an Enny in the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you