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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how's everybody doing?

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Maddy Clab here on a Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live and plenty of news and notes to

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Speaker 1: bring your way today, because why well, it's NFL Trade

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Speaker 1: deadline day and there have already been a handful of deals.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to those in short order. The official deadline

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Speaker 1: there have been a handful of deals, well, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to each and every one of those in short order.

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Speaker 2: Here we do have.

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Speaker 1: Some bills notes to pass along to you as well,

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the injury list got a little longer after

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Speaker 1: last week's game, And Maddie.

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Speaker 2: The wrist injury is the soup du jure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like chicken pox in this building. Everybody is

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Speaker 3: catching a wrist injury. I'm surprised that I'm you know,

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Speaker 3: not on ir too. No, I hope these guys get better.

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Speaker 3: It is so weird that four or five of these

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Speaker 3: players are dealing with a wrist injury. I mean, Duan

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Speaker 3: Smoot is the latest with wrist injury. You've got Keon Coleman,

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Speaker 3: You've got Christian Benford dealing with cooper wrist injury, Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 3: So a couple guys on offense and a couple guys

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Speaker 3: on defense, if you ask the coaches. We talked to

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Speaker 3: they seemed just as surprised as we are. Sean McDermot said,

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes there's just an injury that pops up

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Speaker 3: and you see it in multiple players. There's no rhyme

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and weird it is.

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Speaker 1: And we might as well just roll right into those

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Speaker 1: injury updates, which are kind of our bill's practice updates

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Speaker 1: presented by Leecom, your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine.

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Speaker 1: And the news was not good concerning Dewan Smoot's wrist injury.

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Speaker 1: Coach McDermott said it will require surgery and he is

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Speaker 1: headed to injured reserve, joining Dwayne Carter, another guy with

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Speaker 1: a wrist injury that required surgery. So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: long those players are out. But Dwayne Carter's already missed

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Speaker 1: game one of what will be a minimum of four

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Speaker 1: games missed as he sits on IR. Dwan Smoot minimum

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Speaker 1: project because every risk injury is different, but when surgery

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Speaker 1: Knox missed about six to eight games last year with

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Speaker 2: So that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Two guys on your defensive line that are a part

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Speaker 1: topic of discussion today as well, But it begs the question.

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Speaker 1: You got one guy an interior player, the other guy

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Speaker 1: their turbo pass rush package, Smoot was going from edge

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Speaker 1: You wonder if it's going to necessitate the Bills adding

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Speaker 2: That's a big decision here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and going into the second half of the season,

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Speaker 3: We saw this defense struggle against Miami last week. Jonathan

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Speaker 3: So you wonder what's out there for the Bills. Are

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Speaker 3: they going to go after it. We've seen Ilianku the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for their next.

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Speaker 1: Mannie and I were actually talking about this right before

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Speaker 1: So you have Branson Dean also, he's more of a

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Speaker 1: According to multiple reports, Edwards asked for a trade after

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Speaker 2: Some team is safety needy.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have to see if and when that becomes

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Speaker 2: We mentioned Dewan Smooth being an injury Kean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes what happens there and I'm hoping this is the case.

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Speaker 2: Could be going forward.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have added another receiver to the practice

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Speaker 1: But at least there is depth on the practice squad

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Speaker 1: and here on trade deadline day, it has been busy.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the ones that were made earlier in

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on morning Radio and Dallas was saying there

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals acquired running back Khalil Herbert from Chicago in

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, the former Bill, expected to miss the rest

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Speaker 3: Let me just add a little nugget about the Chicago

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Speaker 3: and the Bears lost big to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine to nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was hoping it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: Let's clean shop. Get a new guy in here, who

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Speaker 1: in the run game by a Sometimes they'll pull a

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Speaker 1: guard to put a lineman on Tarran and say, okay,

438
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Speaker 1: try to get around this and make a play. And

439
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins did that to a great degree last week.

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Speaker 1: Uh targeting Tarran in the run game, Lewis seen bigger player,

441
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Speaker 1: sturdier player, goes about two twenty three to two twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's almost as big as Terrell Bernard. I'm

443
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Speaker 1: wondering if there is a hybrid role for him in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's nickel package, namely in a spot where Taran typically

445
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Speaker 1: lines up. I don't want to take Taran off the field,

446
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Speaker 1: so I wonder what kind of package they can come

447
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Speaker 1: up with there. Maybe it's some kind of weird hybrid.

448
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Speaker 1: It's not a base defense with three linebackers. It's not

449
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Speaker 1: a nickel either, So what is it? And can Lewis

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Speaker 1: scene fill a role for you where he's kind of

451
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Speaker 1: a hybrid linebacker safety type. I wonder if he would

452
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Speaker 1: be in elevation into that empty roster spot instead of

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Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson going true safety there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had ce practicing with the linebackers in the

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Speaker 3: last few weeks during practices. One of I can't remember

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Speaker 3: if it was Bobby Babbitts or coach McDermott was asked

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Speaker 3: about it, but they just said, you know, they wanted

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Speaker 3: to shift them around, move them to see what he

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Speaker 3: was capable of, have him learn a couple positions, because

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Speaker 3: if you're a practice squad player, I mean, you're trying

461
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Speaker 3: to get the most out of these guys if you

462
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Speaker 3: need to elevate them for something. It's nice that you

463
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Speaker 3: can have somebody do two things instead of one thing,

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Speaker 3: or be a really specialized player in a specific package

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Speaker 3: like you're talking about there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know we shouldn't forget.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that was a former

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Speaker 1: first round pick at a Georgia of the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really end up fitting there. Injuries were also

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Speaker 1: a problem for him. He only played in ten games

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Speaker 1: for Minnesota between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: and then he was released. So the Bills picked him up.

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Speaker 1: Certainly a talented player, and I wonder if they play

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Speaker 1: him closer to the line of scrimmage, if in fact

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Speaker 1: they decide to elevate him off the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: I think he's only like twenty four years old, I

477
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Speaker 2: mean twenty five.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty five, just turned twenty five last month. So

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, you know, if these reports are accurate and

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Speaker 1: Mike Edwards is released from the roster, you've got an

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Speaker 1: open roster spot.

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Speaker 2: Do they fill the.

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Speaker 1: Position that he vacates with a hybrid player like scene

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Speaker 1: or do they add a defensive lineman knowing they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be down two for the foreseeable future in Dwayne Carter

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Speaker 1: and Dwan Smoot. Who are Bot's gonna wind up on

487
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Speaker 1: injured reserve? According to coach McDermott.

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Speaker 2: Carter's already there.

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Speaker 1: Smoot's gonna join him because of the news yesterday that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna need surgery on his wrist and we'll miss

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Speaker 1: at least four games. But let's go to the phones

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Speaker 1: at eight h three zero five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five point fifty two, five point fifty and we.

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Speaker 2: Go to JB out in Rondecoid. What do you got

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Speaker 2: for us? JB You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Guys? Just wondering what you guys thought about this. I

498
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Speaker 7: was scanning through the trade rummers and it was Bill

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Speaker 7: consolidated something one of these things on YouTube by launching

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Speaker 7: the guy was talking about Michaeh Parsons not wanting to

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Speaker 7: be Obviousteen Dallas, and then he's got connection with vaugh

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Speaker 7: and Cooper, and then also that now the deck's out

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Speaker 7: for a while. But the good news was he's like

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Speaker 7: a two million dollar cap hit and then it's affordable.

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Speaker 7: And then they were talking about like possibly mixing that

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Speaker 7: package up elim and also something else third gonna pick.

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Speaker 7: So I was just wondering what you guys thought about

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Speaker 7: if you heard anything on that vine. And then the

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Speaker 7: other one was the guy out there the Raiders, the minebacker.

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Speaker 7: So just touching base what you guys are hearing. If

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Speaker 7: you think something's really going to go down, it's going

512
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Speaker 7: to be big news or small news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, jab you appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because you know Parsons is still on

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Speaker 1: his rookie deal. You would have to get ready to

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Speaker 1: roll up the Brinks truck ye to pay him on

517
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Speaker 1: an extension. But I suppose if you believe come next year,

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Speaker 1: you haven't out in von Miller's on track. So if

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Speaker 1: you wanted to turn the page there and go younger

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Speaker 1: and you can stomach parsons cap hit now, which you

521
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Speaker 1: know pro rated is probably like two and a half

522
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Speaker 1: somewhere in there. If you can stomach that, you're getting

523
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Speaker 1: a fantastic player who would obviously be energized going from

524
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Speaker 1: a team that's quickly headed towards the NFC basement or

525
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Speaker 1: it not for the New York Giants. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if I have a chance to add Micah Parsons to

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Speaker 1: my roster, I'm listening. The fact that it's affordable is

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Speaker 1: also makes it even more interesting, but the compensation would

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Speaker 1: be stiff. I can't see them giving up Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: for anything less than a first round draft choice. So

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Speaker 1: if you're ready to part with a one, you have

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Speaker 1: to be committed to signing him to an extension as well.

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Speaker 2: And let's not forget you have Greg Russau, who's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be need who you're gonna need to sign to

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Speaker 1: a contract extension. Christian Benford is in line for a

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Speaker 1: second contract. So those are two players at two high

537
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Speaker 1: priced positions already. Look, I'd love to add Michael Parsons

538
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Speaker 1: to our roster if we could, but I just don't

539
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Speaker 1: know how all the money works beyond this year. And

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Speaker 1: maybe fans don't care, but Brandon Bean does because he.

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Speaker 2: Has to, that's his job. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel differently about it, mat

543
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Speaker 1: He certainly Parsons will be a great ad, right, but

544
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Speaker 1: the cost is going to be steep now and later.

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Speaker 3: At least thirteen sacks in the last three seasons, just

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Speaker 3: one bright now. But I think if you're going to

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Speaker 3: add a guy like him, which would be incredible, Yes,

548
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Speaker 3: that would definitely elevate the play of the defensive line

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Speaker 3: as a whole. I think you really have to think

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Speaker 3: about the future. You have to look down the road.

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Speaker 3: You have to figure out how does this fit in

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Speaker 3: with the group that we already have, How does this

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Speaker 3: fit in with the players that we've already extended. What

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Speaker 3: is the future for some of the players on this

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Speaker 3: roster on the defensive line, And like you said, there's

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Speaker 3: other guys beyond the defensive line on defense that you're

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Speaker 3: going to have to if you choose to, are gonna

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Speaker 3: need an extension soon enough? Who are players worthy of

559
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Speaker 3: big money figures because of what they've done in Buffalo

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Speaker 3: the past few seasons. So I think if you're going

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Speaker 3: to add a pivotal foundational piece like that, you really

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Speaker 3: have to think down the line into the next few

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Speaker 3: years before doing so.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the most important thing to note here is

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said unequivocally on the radio this morning down

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, we are buyers, not sellers. So first of

567
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Speaker 1: all their mo is, we are adding, not subtracting. And

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Speaker 1: to think that they would take arguably one of the

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Speaker 1: top three players on their not arguably he's one of

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Speaker 1: the top three players on their roster. It's basically dak

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Speaker 1: Lamb and Parsons. There's no way they're moving on from him.

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Speaker 1: So as exciting as it might sound, as realistic as

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Speaker 1: it could be money wise, for now, I just don't

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Speaker 1: see it happening.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately. Let's go to Mark in Jersey City next. What's

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Speaker 2: up Mark?

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Speaker 1: I think we're having trouble get in touch with Mark.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break anyway, so we'll step aside.

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Speaker 1: Here we'll be back with your phone calls. Here on

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Speaker 1: Trade Deadline Day on one Bills Live, presented by a

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Speaker 1: Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, and here on Trade Deadline Day,

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Speaker 1: we're asking you, if necessary, where would you add to

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Speaker 1: the bills roster? Got some injuries at some positions. Maybe

585
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Speaker 1: that's prompted you to think an ad should be made there.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna go to the phones at eight h

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

588
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Speaker 1: two five fifty to see what you think, and we

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Speaker 1: lead off with Mark and Jersey City.

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Speaker 8: What's up Mark, Good afternoon, Thanks for taking my call. Guys,

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Speaker 8: they have to have align them, definitely. I know they're

592
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Speaker 8: going to get Mike at these two back at some point,

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Speaker 8: but they always air on the side of caution with injuries.

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Speaker 8: They never rush guys back on the field, but they

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Speaker 8: just haven't been I don't know. They have a good

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Speaker 8: week and then they have another lull. I know they

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Speaker 8: they're very gimmicky down there, and they're extremely extremely fast.

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Speaker 8: You're not going to face speed like that, but you know,

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Speaker 8: Bills have been susceptible to just getting run on by

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Speaker 8: big people too. So yeah, they needed defensive tackle Lot Dallas.

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Speaker 8: Maybe Mazzie Smith, he seems to have washed out there,

602
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Speaker 8: doesn't really do much. I know they had him in

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Speaker 8: for a thirty similar to scene. So if scene gets

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Speaker 8: on in the fifty three, that would be interesting. Maybe

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Speaker 8: a receiver it seems like Curtis Samuel, I know he's injured.

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Speaker 8: I wish they just would have put him on IR

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Speaker 8: to start the season, you know, because whatever he's battling,

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Speaker 8: it's still lingering, and he just seems I don't know,

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Speaker 8: he seems lost. And he's a guy Brady stummed for

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Speaker 8: to get on this roster and he just hasn't panned out.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for taking my call, guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, I mean some help in the middle.

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Speaker 1: There we were, Manny and I were just talking about

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Speaker 1: it earlier in the hour. It's playing time for Austin

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Speaker 1: Johnson is curious, kind of wondering if he's still dealing

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Speaker 1: with his oblique injury. Kind of fighting through that, but

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Speaker 1: it's compromised his effectiveness. Zion log was here helped in

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Speaker 1: the Houston game, but then has been an inactive, healthy

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Speaker 1: inactive the last two weeks. But he's certainly a big

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Speaker 1: body to help plug up the middle. We saw Cleveland

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Speaker 1: just released Quentin Jefferson, a veteran defensive tackle who spent

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season here in Buffalo, but then was

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Speaker 1: thrown overboard as a cap casualty. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there's interest there a guy that's at least played

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Speaker 1: in this system before. So there are options. You just

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Speaker 1: wonder if they choose free agency or if they decide

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Speaker 1: to swing a trade as well.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the defensive line, Brownie, when you

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Speaker 3: look at what they've done against the run, it's been

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Speaker 3: one week they stop it, one week it's tough for

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Speaker 3: them to stop it. It's kind of been back and forth,

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Speaker 3: and I know there's a lot of scenarios at play here.

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Speaker 3: You play a different type of offense every single week.

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00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: The Miami Dolphins are are run differently than the Seattle

635
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Speaker 3: Seahawks are. They were able to stop the Seahawks, not

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Speaker 3: as much the Dolphins. You got guys in and out

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Speaker 3: of the lineup. You go down two defensive linemen during

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Speaker 3: this game against the Dolphins in Dwan Smoot and Casey Twohill.

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Speaker 2: What do you chop all this up to.

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Speaker 3: When we're talking about the run defense and how it's

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Speaker 3: been present some weeks and then not present other weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the exact problem. It's inconsistent fundamentals. And

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Speaker 1: I think Coach Babbage said as much yesterday at times,

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Speaker 1: and Coach McDermott said at also It's not enough to

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Speaker 1: just be in your gap. You've got to make a

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Speaker 1: sound fundamental tackle. Last week, the speed of the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: I think was the biggest issue because we saw a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys stretching, reaching and making arm trying to

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Speaker 1: make arm tackles because they can't get there quickly. And

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Speaker 1: a chan exploited that ran through some arm tackles, So

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Speaker 1: too did Jalen Write and Raheem Mostert, and it was

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Speaker 1: a problem. So what do you do get to your

653
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Speaker 1: gap faster? And to the caller marks point, they've had

654
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: problems with powerbacks as well. Guess what you're facing a

655
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Speaker 1: running back this week who is big and fast. I

656
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: mean Jonathan Taylor goes two twenty and he runs a

657
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: four to three nine forty. So you don't get your

658
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: fundamental tackling and run assignments down this week. He's gonna

659
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Speaker 1: do the same thing he did two years ago when

660
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: he ripped off five touchdowns one hundred and eighty something yards.

661
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Speaker 2: They got to get right in a hurry here, and if.

662
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: They feel they need reinforcements, then Brandon Bean in the

663
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: personnel department are gonna have to beat the bushes to

664
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Speaker 1: find somebody that can come in here and help them quickly.

665
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: That knows the scheme to some degree. That's why I

666
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: mentioned Quentin Jefferson, a guy that spent a year in

667
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: this system here in Buffalo back in twenty twenty. It's

668
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: getting released by the Browns today. We'll see if they

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Speaker 1: have an interest in a guy like that. Let's go

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Speaker 1: do Kathy in Buffalo New what's up, Kathy?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you guys doing doing Goodore?

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Speaker 9: Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 6: What about Micah Hyde?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an option, and you know, Micah in the

676
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: off season basically said that if he plays again, it

677
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: would only be for Buffalo.

678
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Speaker 2: So yes, he's an option. I think right now.

679
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: He would he would be depth at the start while

680
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: he got ramped up and into quote unquote playing shape.

681
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Speaker 2: I don't think he would be an instant.

682
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: Back on the field guy, just because you know, even

683
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: if he's training on his own, it's still not the

684
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: same as being in game shape.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if anything will happen with that. I mean,

686
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: he's been somebody who has been so important to this

687
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: team in the past. So we'll see what the future

688
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: is for Mike hid and if he ever decides to

689
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: lace them up again. But yeah, he spoke to us

690
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: in the off season, you know, really end the off season,

691
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: and made it clear during his off ball charity event

692
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: that Hey, if I do play again, it's going to

693
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: be for Buffalo and nobody else.

694
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of where it sits, I think.

695
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Speaker 1: And you know, the longer it goes I think, the

696
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: less likely I think it is to happen unfortunately.

697
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I know fans.

698
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Speaker 1: Love him and he was a great cornerstone player for

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Speaker 1: this franchise and where they are now. But we'll have

700
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here at that position,

701
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: if in fact, the Mike Edwards release comes to fruition,

702
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Judy and Buffalo next.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Judy, It's.

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Speaker 9: Okay to answer your question. It's probably not unaskedy feasible bum.

705
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 9: The Bell should really dump Samuel and Miller. They are

706
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 9: useless to this team, and I don't know that we

707
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 9: can get anybody to replace them, but they are are

708
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 9: useless and they're just a drag on the team. What

709
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 9: I really want to call about is that the game

710
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 9: ahead Indianapolis is a muss swin game, and here we are.

711
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Speaker 9: We may not have Kean Colman. We may not have

712
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Speaker 9: Amari Cooper, we may have Shakira, my favorite player, and

713
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Speaker 9: three backs who can run the ball and catch the

714
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Speaker 9: ball and hopefully if we get in the red zone.

715
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Speaker 9: I would like to see the Bills go to a

716
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Speaker 9: three tight end offense because I don't think they can cover.

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00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Them all right, three tight end offense. I mean we

718
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: saw some of that this past week. They went with

719
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Speaker 1: a heavy set. They had Alec Anderson as a sixth

720
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, went three tight ends and went power, you know,

721
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. The Colts are the thirty first run

722
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: defense in football, second to last in run d Now,

723
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Speaker 1: I think they're better and healthier now that they have

724
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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner back in the lineup in

725
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Speaker 1: the middle of that defense. So and we'll talk to

726
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Speaker 1: Dan Orlofski about that too next hour when we preview

727
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Bills Colts. But yeah, I mean, you want to go heavy,

728
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna work. I'm fine with that. As

729
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: far as Curtis Samuel goes, you know, moving him off

730
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Speaker 1: the roster might be a little premature. You're a little

731
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Speaker 1: short handed at receiver right now, with Cooper with a

732
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: wrist injury, Coleman with a wrist injury, So I don't know,

733
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Speaker 1: if you want to be throwing receivers overboard right now,

734
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: you might need him more than ever. And has it

735
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: been tough for him to find a role in this offense. Absolutely,

736
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Speaker 1: but I think it's due to the fact that Shakir

737
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: and Kincaid have been pretty reliable in working in similar

738
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Speaker 1: roles to the one I think they kind of envisioned

739
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Speaker 1: for Samuel.

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Speaker 3: And maybe this is the opportunity. Maybe if the Bills

741
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Speaker 3: are down a wide receiver or two this week against

742
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Speaker 3: the Colts and Amari Cooper and Kean Coleman, maybe this

743
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: is the game that Curtis Samuel can show up. They

744
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: can have some plays installed for him that showcase what

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Speaker 3: he can do and what he's done in a Joe

746
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 3: Brady offense before. This was a player who had career

747
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Speaker 3: highs when he played with Brady in the past. And

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Speaker 3: I know we've all been kind of waiting to see

749
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Speaker 3: what that looks like. Haven't seen that yet. So maybe

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Speaker 3: if one of those guys isn't able to go in

751
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Speaker 3: this weekend's game, we see a little bit more out

752
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Speaker 3: of Curtis Samuel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's a little strong judy to

754
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Speaker 1: say Miller and Samuel are useless to this team. I mean,

755
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Speaker 1: Miller had three sacks in his first four games, and

756
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Speaker 1: he only played nine snaps in Game four because there

757
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: were no pass rushing opportunities because the Ravens were so

758
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Speaker 1: far up on.

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Speaker 2: The scoreboard in that game.

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Speaker 1: So just give it a little time here, and I

761
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Speaker 1: think Miller, after kind of getting his feet wet again

762
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Speaker 1: after a one month layoff, we'll pay dividends this week,

763
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Speaker 1: especially against a pocket quarterback like Joe Flacco. So I'm

764
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Speaker 1: interested to see how he might be able to help

765
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Speaker 1: a pass rush which needs a little bit of a

766
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: shot in the arm in terms of consistency and production.

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Speaker 1: It has fallen off here in recent weeks. Last week especially,

768
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Speaker 1: Tua gets the ball out super fast, so you understand it.

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Speaker 1: I think the pass rush is going to eat a

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Speaker 1: little bit more this week, so I look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly go to Bob in Hamburg here before the break,

772
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Speaker 1: what do you got for us, Bob.

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Speaker 10: Hey, let's bring back bubbles on Khleio Mack. He would

774
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 10: be great in a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, Khalil Mack is the guy that he

776
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: wants to add here. And look, I understand the local

777
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: ties people are. You know, he's a favorite still, you know,

778
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: with the Chargers right now. So he's got a huge

779
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: cap hit as far as the Chargers are concerned. So

780
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Speaker 1: because they have avoidable year next year, they try to

781
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Speaker 1: reduce the cap hit and work around it. Base salary wise,

782
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: he's super affordable for a team like the Bills.

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Speaker 2: But he would be a rental thirty three years old.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you already have a thirty five year

785
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Speaker 1: old pass rusher in von Miller. Do you want to

786
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: add a thirty three year old stranger? Things have happened?

787
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Speaker 1: He would be a rental? What would be the cost

788
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Speaker 1: to get him?

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Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't rule it out, but.

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Speaker 1: I think they feel they have that guy already in

791
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: von Miller.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was to say, I think it's worth doing

793
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Speaker 3: if it makes sense, what the salary would be, what

794
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: you're having to take on, and if it's going to

795
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Speaker 3: be for a short amount of time, just because of

796
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Speaker 3: what you already have on this roster in von Miller

797
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: and in his age, adding another guy thirty three year

798
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: old upwards in his NFL career. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Got to take a break here, but more of your

800
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: phone calls when we return on trade deadline day? Do

801
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: the Bills need to make a roster move? And if

802
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: so where you let us know at AIGHTO three oh

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: five fifty back with more of your phone calls next

804
00:42:52,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: year on one Bill's Live. Stay with us all right

805
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: back here on one Bills Live. On trade deadline day,

806
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Speaker 1: half a dozen trades are any crazy?

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Speaker 3: It's an active day.

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Speaker 1: It's an active market world, active market for sure. And

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, our topic of discussion for you

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Speaker 1: today on trade deadline Day? Do the Bills need to

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Speaker 1: make a roster move? And if so where eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five point fifty one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty the numbers to get on board and

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Speaker 1: we go to Butch on the east side next what's up?

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Speaker 6: But first of all, I want to say thanks.

816
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Speaker 7: I love both of you.

817
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 6: Queen Queen of wgr Maddie is being your presence. I

818
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 6: love you, I love MSG, I love Wgransmont the world.

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Speaker 7: You definitely love you. Look you're right to it.

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Speaker 6: I really want to call about the backs in the coordination.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go right to the trade deadline. Miles gear

822
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: is the only one in South here right now. Vision

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Speaker 6: why I say, Miles Garrett and I have and I

824
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: want you Maddie and Chris and that she was there

825
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 6: here no Brandon being since he's been at GM, it's

826
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 6: always been searching, even in the draft, from A J. A.

827
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Speaker 6: Panesza to Russo to anybody else. We're looking for a

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Speaker 6: defensive lineman. He has the opportunity based off the cap

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Speaker 6: for what we have like eight, like like you did

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Speaker 6: Amari Cooper. He can make it, make a tray had

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Speaker 6: to give up a little bit more of a capital,

832
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Speaker 6: but he can fit under our cap for this year

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Speaker 6: and then we can worry about that next year.

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Speaker 7: But I think he'll be.

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Speaker 6: A great factor if we can get uh, Miles Gary,

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Speaker 6: that'd be the perfect move that'll put put his way

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Speaker 6: if Brandon being his career. Forget all the draft, for

838
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 6: get all the division titles, we have to get what

839
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 6: all the draft picks we have that will put icing

840
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 6: on the cake on far as his career with Bill

841
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 6: Polian and everybody else. Anyway, I'm gonna say this to

842
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: you now, I'm gonna say this. I'm not gonna go

843
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 6: on the defensive side. I'm gonna say this one thing.

844
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: I'm let you guys go because I know you got callers, Steve,

845
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 6: Chris Maddie. All this time, we have all been talking.

846
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 6: We've been talking about our running backs. I need Brady,

847
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 6: Joe Brady to move up in his game, educate his

848
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: game and have two backs in the same backfield and

849
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 6: know how to throw screens to these backs and stop

850
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Speaker 6: making them go against each other like one against another. No,

851
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 6: we have three quality backs. We have Ty Johnson, we

852
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 6: have Ray Davis, and we have James Cook. Put him

853
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 6: in the game together, put one in motion, have two

854
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 6: in the backs, and instead of bringing a lineman as

855
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 6: an extra player, bring an extra back, and then go

856
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 6: ahead and use the screen game. We're gonna need this

857
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 6: because going down the road, everybody else in the NFL

858
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 6: knows Josh is gonna drop back. They're gonna blitz. Every

859
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 6: game is gonna be a blitz. Fine, run a draw,

860
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 6: run a stream. I love you guys, man, y'all be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much.

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00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: Butcher's apparently listening to our podcast Bills by the Numbers,

863
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: because we were just talking about that. Putting Ray Davis

864
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: and James Cook on the field at the same time

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Speaker 1: as a way to diversify the offense a little bit

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Speaker 1: more here in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 2: I'm not against it.

868
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Speaker 1: I actually like it because I don't think they fully

869
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: tapped into everything that James Cook could give you as

870
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: a receiver. I know he had a bad drop last

871
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: week and those have been problems. Hopefully he's on the

872
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: jugs machine fixing it. But I think if you have

873
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: those two guys on the field simultaneously, it opens up

874
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: a world of options, and I think presents problems for

875
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: an opposing defense, especially if you go two backs, two

876
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: tight ends. Now you're expecting run. Maybe you put base

877
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: defense on the field and then all of a sudden

878
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: they split cookout wide prior to the snap, and you

879
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: could still run the ball with Ray Davis, but now

880
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: you've got a passing game mismatch with Cook on a linebacker.

881
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: Me like you a lot.

882
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: I was curious, so I'm looking up the amount of

883
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: snaps that we have run so far this season. In

884
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: twenty personnel, two running backs, zero tight ends. We have

885
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: done that zero times this season. Twenty one twenty one

886
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: personnel little more two running backs, one tight end on

887
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: the field at the same time. We have done that

888
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: in twenty three snaps twenty three plays.

889
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: And that's mostly been Reggie Gilliam.

890
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: That ranks twelve ties for twelfth in the NFL. And

891
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: then twenty two personnel, two running backs, two tight ends,

892
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: seven plays.

893
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: And again that's been mostly Regie Gillium also, so we

894
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: haven't really seen Davison Cook on the field simultaneously. It

895
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: would be an interesting little twist, I think to Buffalo's offense.

896
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to as far as Miles Garrett. Butch while

897
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: that's a great idea, they just traded Zadarius Smith, who

898
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: was the older player age thirty two. Garrett still in

899
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: his prime at age twenty eight or twenty nine, And.

900
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: As much.

901
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: As many things that are root up in Cleveland, and

902
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: they're a lot, I can't see them parting with Miles Garrett,

903
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: a former number one overall pick for them, who still

904
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: has years left in the tank in my estimation. So

905
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned. I mean, don't get me wrong, Crazier

906
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: things have happened in Cleveland. We know this, but I

907
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: would be stunned if they moved on from him. Let's

908
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: go to Mark in West Seneca. What's up, Mark?

909
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 10: Hey, I gotta say, Butch loves everybody. I love Butch.

910
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 10: I agree with him wholeheartedly. You know, he knows what

911
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 10: he's talking about most times what he calls it. As

912
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 10: far as I'm concerned, and that too running back thing.

913
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 10: I have been beating that drum out my friends for

914
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 10: quite a while, cook on the field with either one

915
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 10: or the other two and putting them in motion and

916
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 10: running them out in patterns. I think, especially if you're

917
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 10: down the receiver, that could solve that problem for a game,

918
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 10: you know. So I'm with you with that too, Brownie.

919
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 10: What I've called about though, is I think we're all

920
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 10: right now a little bit, you know, recency biased with

921
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 10: the whole. I know it's defensive line, defensive line, especially

922
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 10: coming off the game we just had against Miami having

923
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 10: trouble stop in the run. But when I look at

924
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 10: where we want to go and the teams we're going

925
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 10: to play, every team that's a playoff team and a

926
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 10: serious contender are always quarterback centrists, and they win by

927
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 10: throwing the ball. Ultimately, Okay, they're not going to line

928
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 10: up and run the ball thirty five or forty times

929
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 10: that would be way outside the box to win a

930
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 10: playoff game. It just doesn't happen. And I've been beating

931
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 10: this drum, Brownie. You know, I've called numerous times about

932
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 10: the safety position. If it's up to me, I'm trying

933
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 10: to find another corner or a cover dB. I don't

934
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 10: even care if it's another cornerback, okay, because the middle

935
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 10: of our field has been so wide open all year long,

936
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 10: and as much as I love Damar Hamlin, trying to

937
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 10: find a veteran safety who's maybe a little bit more

938
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 10: athletic I think would go long way in helping solve

939
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 10: some of the problems that we have defensively. So that's

940
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 10: where my head is at. But I certainly do not

941
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 10: want to give up any substantial assets for certainly for

942
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 10: a rental in the draft for next year, because I

943
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 10: think they're very close to what being does in the

944
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 10: draft to no longer having a transistionent year. Next year

945
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 10: it could be a real serious year with the guys

946
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 10: he might be able to bring in. So that's where

947
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 10: I'm at. So thanks.

948
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 7: Oh.

949
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 10: The other question I had was brown, I don't know

950
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 10: how much practice time you actually did see. And I'll

951
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 10: get off the phone real quick, Mike Edwards, do you

952
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 10: have any inkling what happened there?

953
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 11: Did his skills.

954
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 10: Diminished to the point he couldn't get on the field?

955
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 10: Did he not comprehend the scheme? It just boggles my

956
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 10: mind that he was thought of as a solution at

957
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 10: safety when they signed him. Bean doesn't miss like that

958
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 10: very often, if ever, and this guy could never get

959
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 10: on the field. I just don't get I was just

960
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 10: wondering if you can answer that question at all.

961
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a valid question mark. And incidentally, the Bills

962
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: have made it official. They have released safety Mike Edwards,

963
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: so he is no longer on the roster. We saw

964
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: the reports earlier today, as we told you in the

965
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: first hour here of the show, he has been released. Look,

966
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: there hasn't been any definitive reason on it. I don't

967
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: believe it is a physical skill issue. It might, I mean,

968
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: for all we know, it could be a personality match issue.

969
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: We don't know, but I think he's certainly capable of

970
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: playing the position. For whatever reason, he was not deemed

971
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: a match after training camp in the preseason concluded. Injuries

972
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: obviously compromised his time on the field through the course

973
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: of the offseason and then he's behind the eight ball

974
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: in terms of playing catchup. But even when he was healthy,

975
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: there were times where he was a healthy inactive and

976
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: we hear about Bill's DNA all the time. Maybe they

977
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: were under the impression they were getting a player with

978
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: Bill's DNA and that didn't come to fruition. We'll see

979
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: what coach McDermott has to say about out at tomorrow

980
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: and why it didn't work here. We'll leave it up

981
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: to him to kind of explain, which we'll hear from tomorrow,

982
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: and we'll play his comments for you here on our

983
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live. In the meantime, though,

984
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: we got to take a break because coming up an

985
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: hour number two, our weekly visit with dan Orlovsky here

986
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live.

987
00:52:16,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: Stay with us.

988
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

989
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: Well.

990
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back Chris Brown Maddy lab here on a Tuesday

991
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: edition of One Bills Live. Please to be joined by

992
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: our weekly guest on Tuesdays, dan Orlofski, ESPN NFL Draft

993
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Analyst and his appearance on One Bill's Live presented by

994
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: Caesar's Sportsbook, an official mobile sports betting partner.

995
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: Of the Buffalo Bills.

996
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, So the Bills squeak one out quite

997
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: literally against the Dolphins, thanks to the heroics of one

998
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass from sixty one yards away with ten seconds left.

999
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from Buffalo's performance? Knowing once

1000
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: again slow first half start, offensively turned it up in

1001
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: the second half, but the defense had some deficiencies that

1002
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: were not used to seeing, like setting the edge and

1003
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: things of that nature.

1004
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 12: Yeah, the biggest takeaway is I don't want to say

1005
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 12: concern over the way that they got the ball run

1006
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 12: on that, but definitely heightened awareness of that and in

1007
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 12: many ways it was you know, run at ran, which

1008
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 12: has been a theme for teams that come from like that.

1009
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 12: Shanahan Tree, Mike McDaniel does that, and it's surprising because

1010
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 12: he's been so good many.

1011
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 13: Years of you know, kind of in that role and

1012
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 13: handling that.

1013
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 12: So, you know, I think that was the big takeaway

1014
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 12: defensively is you know, when they get into this back

1015
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 12: end of the season and living in a world where

1016
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 12: let's say Houston starts to figure it out and plays

1017
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 12: a little bit better, they're a team that's going to

1018
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 12: do that if and when they're going to play against

1019
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 12: Buffalo and the playoffs type of thing. Obviously they played

1020
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 12: against each other in the regular season, so just schematically

1021
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 12: kind of seeing how they got to handle that better.

1022
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 12: And you know, certainly at the front line of the defense,

1023
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 12: you know, making sure that they're protecting Arran in those

1024
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 12: roles in those spots because teams are gonna do it.

1025
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 13: We've seen it over the years.

1026
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 12: I think offensively, incredibly mature performance by Josh once again.

1027
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 12: You know, they to attack the air of the defense,

1028
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 12: very patient against the defense. I love the way that

1029
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 12: they're using Shaki right now, constantly putting him at the

1030
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 12: two or the three and they're two or three man sides.

1031
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 12: It's like him and Kincaid are just kind of those

1032
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 12: revolving pieces when they're in the two spot, meaning in

1033
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 12: the slot between those two receivers are at the three

1034
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 12: spot closest to that offensive tackle. So and then Josh

1035
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 12: may three or four plays you know that were tremendous,

1036
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 12: so simple run game again designed or dressed up to

1037
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 12: look exotic, but still a good win.

1038
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 3: Sticking with Josh Allen's game against the Dolphins, we spoke

1039
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: to offensive coordinator Joe Brady yesterday and he said he

1040
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: was impressed with Allen in the offense's ability to just

1041
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: stay the course, hit those check downs, hit those short routes,

1042
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: and just find a way to move the ball slowly

1043
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: down the field. It results in a win for Buffalo.

1044
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 3: Do you see defense is possibly changing the way they're

1045
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: defending the Bills if they continue to have success with

1046
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: some of those shorter routes with the underneath things as

1047
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: defenses have taken the top off or taking those those

1048
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: big routes away from Buffalo because they're known to hit

1049
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: on them. But Buffalo's also succeeding in the other way too.

1050
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, so yes to the answer, It'll be dependent upon

1051
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 12: who the defense is. But I do want to make

1052
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 12: sure everyone this is it's really hard to do what

1053
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 12: their offense is doing. It's it takes a tremendous amount

1054
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 12: of everybody.

1055
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 13: Discipline, maturity, patience.

1056
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 12: It's not nearly as much fun as big plays and

1057
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 12: being explosive on offense. Think about it from a Joe

1058
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 12: Brady perspective, and this can't get set enough. So often

1059
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 12: guys get in that role and they chase one thing

1060
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 12: stats so then they can spin that to a potential

1061
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 12: job as a head coach, and to kind of do

1062
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 12: what's necessary for the offense the way the defense is

1063
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 12: demanding you to play over the course of four quarters.

1064
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 12: It shows great discipline, it really does. It's hard to do,

1065
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 12: and then it spills on into the quarterback. And I

1066
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 12: know people don't like Josh going one, two, three, four, five,

1067
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 12: sixty seven play bake, hit hits and throwing the flat,

1068
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 12: but a player like a tailback or tight end, it's

1069
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 12: the right play. Sean McVay would tell me when I

1070
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 12: was with Sean for a year.

1071
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 13: He said, I.

1072
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 12: Don't care if you're making the good play, make the

1073
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 12: right play, and when the defense demands that that's the

1074
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 12: right play, doing it on a consistent basis. So I

1075
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 12: think it's important for fans to understand that. I do

1076
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 12: think defenses will change the way that they play, but

1077
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 12: I think it to be dependent upon the defense. If

1078
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 12: you can't line up and play physical man coverage and

1079
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 12: feel like you can have a person that matches the

1080
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 12: size and strength of like a keon, and then the

1081
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 12: coverage at the line of scrimmage ability against lamar, maybe

1082
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Speaker 12: you don't press them. Can do you have someone underneath

1083
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 12: that can move with Shakir. Do you have someone that

1084
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 12: can handle a Kincaid. I think that the Kansas City

1085
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 12: Chiefs can. I think that the Houston Texans can. I

1086
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 12: don't think. I know this sounds dumb. The Bills played

1087
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 12: awful against the Ravens. I don't think the Ravens can.

1088
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 12: I just don't. I think the Bills just played really

1089
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 12: bad that game. So I think if you can line

1090
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 12: up and play man coverage, teams will do it.

1091
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Yes, taking the offensive step further because it's going to

1092
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: have to morph and change, as we know, based on

1093
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: player availability and a lot of other things.

1094
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: Opponent in a given week, what have you.

1095
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel is a curious player in this equation because

1096
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: he was the biggest offseason investment at the position. He

1097
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: had worked with Joe Brady before in Carolina, so it

1098
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: was commonly thought that a defined role was going to

1099
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: be found for him and it just has not materialized.

1100
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: Dan and knowing that Kincaid and Shakir pretty much dominate

1101
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and the underneath intermediate stuff,

1102
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: I think Samuel is kind of on the outside looking in,

1103
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for a different.

1104
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: Place for him. With four to three speed.

1105
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, is it unreasonable to think that you could

1106
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: not line him up outside work some deep crossers against

1107
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: man coverage. I mean, the guy's got four to three speed.

1108
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: I know he's not a giant, but do you think

1109
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: he can serve a purpose in winning outside for this

1110
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: passing game?

1111
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 12: The answer is yes, But well, who are you taking

1112
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 12: off the field in those roles or those situations?

1113
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: Then well, right now you've got I'll just say real quickly,

1114
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: you got Cooper and you got Coleman dinged with wrist injuries.

1115
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: We don't know the severity of those. You may be

1116
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: down one or two of those.

1117
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 13: Guys, and then that there's the open door for sure.

1118
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 12: You know if if one of those guys is Ding

1119
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 12: doesn't play is in full strength. Now they're very different

1120
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 12: skill sets, but it gives you at least the opportunity

1121
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 12: for him to get on the field more and be

1122
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 12: utilized just winning against like a deep crosser. I don't

1123
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 12: think Curtis has consistently proven to be somebody who wins

1124
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 12: off routes in the NFL that we have enough data

1125
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 12: that says that's not necessarily who he is. Does he

1126
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 12: provide value with a Mikol Hardman type of role where

1127
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 12: you just want to get him touches out in space

1128
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 12: and allow kind of his feel and short area of

1129
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 12: quickness to go create offense for you, No doubt about it,

1130
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 12: you can absolutely do that.

1131
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 13: But if you're at full health, which.

1132
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 12: They have been for you know, for the majority of

1133
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 12: their weeks, are you taking those two receivers Kean and

1134
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 12: a Mario off the field?

1135
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 13: Probably not. Are you taking Shakira off the field? I don't.

1136
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 13: I would not at all.

1137
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 12: I'm are you taking either of the tight ends in

1138
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 12: those past game situations off?

1139
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 7: No.

1140
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 12: You love the six tight end package so or six

1141
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 12: offensive lineman package. So when you have the sixth offensive

1142
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 12: lineman in and you have Josh that's seven, and your

1143
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 12: back is eight, you only got place for three more

1144
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 12: other guys, and you're sitting there going Keon or Coop

1145
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 12: with the Kinkaid and a Shakir or two tight ends.

1146
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 12: It's it's a good problem to have. I don't think

1147
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 12: that Curtis right now is showing I deserve or or

1148
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 12: I can bring more than some of those other guys.

1149
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 3: The Bills are nine games through the season, with eight

1150
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: games left in the regular season. We spoke about the

1151
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel piece. Is there anything else that you're waiting

1152
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: to see awaken within this Buffalo's offense as they hit

1153
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: the final stretch of the final second half of the

1154
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: regular season, Not.

1155
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 12: Really, Like I think the number one thing fingers crossed

1156
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 12: for all Bills fins that they stay healthy. I think offensively,

1157
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 12: the more that they can add to the play action

1158
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 12: past past concepts. I liked a little bit they got

1159
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 12: into a little bit of eleven play action pass this

1160
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 12: past week.

1161
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 13: I think they ran that twice.

1162
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 12: It's been predominantly like a twelve personal one back, two

1163
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 12: tight ends, So I think, you know, the more that

1164
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 12: they can sprinkle that in, you know. I also would

1165
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 12: say that in the way that they did it, they

1166
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 12: did it a little bit like Detroit does you know

1167
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 12: where the receiver? You know, when you're at eleven and

1168
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 12: you're going to play action so often your tight end

1169
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 12: is part of your at least protection or chip, and

1170
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 12: your three receivers are the primary route runners. Buffalo did

1171
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 12: it and Detroit does it as well, where the tight

1172
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 12: ends actually one of the primary receivers and the backside

1173
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 12: receiver helps with a chip initially and their pass protection

1174
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 12: and then gets out is the checkdown.

1175
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 13: So I think a little bit more of that.

1176
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 12: I think advancing Shakier's role in the two and three spot.

1177
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 12: The more that they get the ball in his hands,

1178
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 12: the better. I would say this, you know, just constantly.

1179
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 12: If I was Joe, I would be constantly preparing with

1180
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 12: man beaters constantly what man beaters do they like, who

1181
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 12: do they like in certain roles, how good are they

1182
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 12: at executing them? Because at some point they're gonna have

1183
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 12: to beat Kansas City, or they're gonna have to beat Houston,

1184
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 12: or they're gonna have to beat Baltimore. They want to

1185
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 12: line up and play man. They're going to have to

1186
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 12: beat the Chargers, and those teams are match coverage man

1187
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 12: coverage teams, and I think it's going to be really

1188
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 12: important for them to show that they're capable of that.

1189
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: Let's spind it forward to their matchup this week with

1190
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: the Colts on the road, you know, at Lucas Oil Stadium,

1191
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: and I'm having trouble getting a handle on this Colts

1192
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: defense because there are talented players, especially up the middle

1193
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: of that defense, and yet they're listed as thirty first

1194
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: against the run. I don't know, if that's a skewed

1195
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: number from a bad performance earlier in the season, you

1196
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: would think that the Bills would probably try to run

1197
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: the ball first here and light to some of those figures.

1198
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: But you look at the passer rating against for some

1199
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: of their safeties are getting thrown on pretty easily. I mean,

1200
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: they have passer ratings against the like over one oh five,

1201
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: both of them. So what's going on there with the

1202
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: Colts defense and can they be had by the Bills?

1203
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 12: They can be had, So I think number one, DeForest Buckner,

1204
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 12: who's one of the best defensive linemens certainly the interior

1205
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 12: in the NFL, has missed time that that has devastated

1206
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 12: their football team, both in the run and the pass.

1207
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 12: He is back, so that's paramount too. Grover Stewart, who's

1208
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 12: another defensive tackle that's dominant, was also out at certain spots.

1209
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 13: So those guys being healthy, huge difference in their defense.

1210
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 13: Paramount difference in their defense.

1211
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 12: So I think if you know Buffalo is gonna run

1212
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 12: the ball, it's a little bit on the edges because

1213
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 12: that's where their strength is.

1214
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 13: Not they play your traditional zone style of defense.

1215
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 12: They're gonna give Josh cover three or cover what we

1216
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 12: would call palms where it could be cover four, so

1217
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 12: two deep safeties with corners that are deep, or two

1218
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 12: d safeties with corners that are close to the line

1219
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 12: of scrimmage. And you know there's a lot of vacancies

1220
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 12: in the middle of the field if you get after

1221
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 12: them in your play action game, almost like if Houston does,

1222
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 12: you know, with your trying to hit big ins or seams.

1223
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 12: So there's a lot the challenges this against them. Number One,

1224
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 12: if you think you're going to run the ball up

1225
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 12: the middle, similar to like a Tennessee you're kidding yourself.

1226
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 12: But penetration kills their run kills run games versus den

1227
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 12: So you gotta the interior of Buffalo's offensive line's got

1228
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 12: to have one of their best games of this season.

1229
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 12: Number Two, Josh're gonna have to be really good with

1230
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 12: his eyes after the snap because they are a team

1231
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 12: that makes you see things and then they change things

1232
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 12: and it's very what I would call cloudy or muddy.

1233
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 12: You don't necessarily know exactly what and then there's going

1234
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 12: to have to be really fast and proper decisions, quick decisions,

1235
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 12: quick decisions. You don't want to hold onto the ball

1236
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 12: against the pass rush like that, and then I do

1237
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 12: think trying to get into some play action chunks over

1238
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 12: the middle of the field is the best way to

1239
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 12: try to generate explosive plays.

1240
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: Flipping it to Buffalo's defense and what they're going to

1241
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: have to face in the Colts's offense, I know you

1242
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: got Joe Flacco at quarterback, but the running back part

1243
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: is where I want to stay here. Jonathan Taylor not

1244
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: having a crazy season, but he is averaging eighty five

1245
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: rushing yards per game. The last time the Bills faced

1246
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, they lost the game forty one to fifteen.

1247
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor went off for five total touchdowns. He had

1248
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty five yards on the ground. The

1249
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: Bills are coming off of a game against Miami where

1250
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: they struggled against the run. They struggled to set the edge,

1251
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: and they struggled to finish tackling. What does this defense

1252
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: need to do to prepare for a running back in

1253
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor.

1254
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 12: So it's a very different offense now that Joe is

1255
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 12: taking over. Specific to the run game, this was actually

1256
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 12: a solid run game when it came to with Anthony

1257
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 12: Richardson at quarterback, they would get Jonathan into the second

1258
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 12: level or pass the line of scrimmage consistently, and they

1259
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 12: would be a very efficient run game, three four five

1260
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 12: yards a clip, very little negative plays. And then Joe

1261
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 12: Flacko took over last week and you lost that element

1262
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 12: of the potential quarterback run and the run game wasn't

1263
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 12: nearly as dominant.

1264
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 13: They were so bad on first downs.

1265
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 14: Now.

1266
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 13: The different thing, too, was they ran a lot of

1267
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 13: double tight end packages with Joe.

1268
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 12: I don't necessarily know exactly how Indy's gonna work it

1269
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 12: because they played so poorly on offense. You know, they

1270
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 12: I think that they want to run right at defenses,

1271
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 12: you know, with what we call duo concepts, so a

1272
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 12: bunch of double teams. That's a little bit of what

1273
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 12: Shane Dyken did in Indian a little excuse me, Philly

1274
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 12: in a little bit with Gardner Minshew last year when

1275
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 12: he took over. That's that's the challenge I think for

1276
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 12: Buffalo this week is really honing in on what offense

1277
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 12: you're going to get, because there there's two with what

1278
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 12: quarterback and so having to prepare for both, having to

1279
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 12: decipher both is a big deal. I think the second

1280
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 12: thing is You're going to get a bevy of play action,

1281
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 12: pass a ton and Joe is going to throw the

1282
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 12: ball into parties like he's. Joe's wildly aggressive, wild to

1283
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 12: be confident, and he's capable of it. The number one

1284
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 12: person you have to stop is Josh Downs. Josh Downs

1285
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 12: reminds me a lot of like a Deontay Johnson. He's

1286
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 12: he's I guess he's relatively similar in Khalilsha care you

1287
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 12: know with get the ball in his hands. He's tremendously electric.

1288
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 12: He's a phenomenal route runner who's got great feel. They're

1289
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 12: going to have to be really disciplined of knowing where

1290
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 12: he is at all times.

1291
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: Dan, appreciate the time. As always, We'll catch up with

1292
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: you next week, sir.

1293
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 13: Thanks guys.

1294
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's pivot.

1295
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: From Dan Orlovsky to the tweet sheet to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on trade deadline day if needed. Where do the

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Speaker 1: Bills need to make a roster move? They now have

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Speaker 1: two open roster spots once the Dewan Smooth to Ir

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Speaker 1: move goes through. And as we told you earlier this hour,

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Speaker 1: it is official the Bills have released safety Mike Edwards,

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Speaker 1: So two open roster spots on the active roster. So

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Speaker 1: where do you think they need to make an addition?

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Speaker 1: You tell us at eight h three zero five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. But

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Speaker 1: we bring you the tweet sheet now, which is presented

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Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equivment moving company of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and JAG says, injury, scheme and need

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Speaker 1: all seem to point to trading for an interior defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: The Bills want to run Nickel, so they better play

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Speaker 1: from that interior in order to continue. I would agree

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Speaker 1: that they need better play on the interior. And again

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Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of a mystery with this

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Speaker 1: Austin Johnson playing time Zion Logan active. I sense that

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Speaker 1: it's going to look different this week against a big,

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Speaker 1: powerful back in Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to start up front when you're thinking

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Speaker 3: about stopping a running back like Jonathan Taylor, who went

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Speaker 3: off the last time the Bills faced him. I know

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Speaker 3: it's a different team, but it shows what he's capable of.

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Speaker 3: It'll also be interesting to see how this offense changes

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Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco as their quarterback. Dan Orlovsky alluded to

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Speaker 3: it not as much success running the football with Flacco

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Speaker 3: at quarterback. Does that continue with a Buffalo Bill's defense

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Speaker 3: who could be down a few guys not could be,

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Speaker 3: They will be down a few guys on the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if they decide to do anything in the

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Speaker 3: next hour and a half here to add to that

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Speaker 3: defensive line depth. Maybe not just on the interior. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you're looking for a guy who can play inside and

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Speaker 3: play outside because they are down guys in both spots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve on the tweets sheet says a lot depends

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Speaker 1: on the Coleman injury. But with Smooth being on IR,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Bills need to make a move

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Kalais Campbell or Clowney would be

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Speaker 1: solid veteran additions. Kalaias Campbell obviously just played against the

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Speaker 1: Bills last week and is an ageless wonder at age

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, still making plays. I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins like playing that game where you trade someone to

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Speaker 1: an intra division rival. It's not unprecedented, and there is

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Speaker 1: some thought that the Dolphins, despite being two and six,

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Speaker 1: have not given up yet on their season. They also

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Speaker 1: have a problem that they're down one of their best

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman already in Zach Sealer, who has a fractured

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Speaker 1: eye orbital and may not be able to play for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks here, So subtracting from there

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Speaker 1: again again. Yeah and yeah, Jalen Phillips is out for

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Speaker 1: the year. Bradley Chubb is still on reserve pup, So

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Speaker 1: I think they they'd be against thinning their ranks on

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Speaker 1: the defensive front even more with a trade like that.

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Speaker 1: Clowny's interesting. I don't think he's a Bills DNA player.

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Speaker 1: The guy plays football because he's physically gifted, not because

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Speaker 1: he loves football. That's a problem in terms of being

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Speaker 1: a fit here. You have to eat, breathe, and sleep

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Speaker 1: football here and be one hundred percent committed to getting better,

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Speaker 1: even if it's just one percent every single day. That's

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: the whole mantra here, be the best player you can

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Speaker 1: be here in our system. And if you don't subscribe

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Speaker 1: to that motto, it's very hard for you to last

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Speaker 1: long here in Buffalo on this roster. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know that Clowney is that kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see too many people walk through these

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Speaker 3: doors who don't fit the DNA that the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: are known for. Across the league. We see time and

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Speaker 3: time again guys come in the offseason, through free agency,

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Speaker 3: through the draft that just seem to fit here. And

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Speaker 3: it's because our scouting department looks for guys that makes

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Speaker 3: sense that bleed the same type of things that a

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Speaker 3: lot of our other guys in this building do.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump back on the phone lines where we have

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Speaker 1: open lines for you at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five point

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Speaker 1: fifty and we go to Ryan up in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 14: Ryan, Chris Maddie good Chill. Honestly, guys, I'm I'm frustrated

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Speaker 14: every time I watch the Chiefs play. It's frustrating. The

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Speaker 14: goal is for the Bills is to beat the Chiefs

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Speaker 14: in the playoff to go to the ultimate stage. But

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Speaker 14: to be honest, she seems the Chiefs are actually ahead

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Speaker 14: of the game when it comes to roster movements. Why

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Speaker 14: did we not pick up DeAndre Hopkins? U and Steve

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01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 14: were talking about it last season, how DeAndre Hopkins will

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Speaker 14: be a good fit for the Bills. Chiefs gave up

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Speaker 14: a fifth round and a condition of fourth round if

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Speaker 14: they pick up a day in the Super Bowl. We

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Speaker 14: gave up a renter player a third round pick Foramari Cooper,

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Speaker 14: who has played two games. I'm on the sidelines right now.

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Speaker 14: If you want Hopkins last night, man that guy to fly.

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Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call. I'm so frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand Ryan.

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Speaker 1: It seems like whatever the Chiefs do in terms of

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Speaker 1: making a move to improve their roster, it works. And

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Speaker 1: Hopkins had two touchdowns last night, But I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of that is predicated on two things. Won their

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: quarterback to their offensive play caller who's also their head coach.

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Speaker 2: That has a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 1: And who's to say that the Bills did not did

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Speaker 1: not call to inquire about DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I think Cooper is a good fit for what the

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Speaker 1: Bills needed, which was a man to man separator that

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Speaker 1: is not Hopkins anymore. And the Bills got the younger

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Speaker 1: player on top of that, Amari Cooper thirty DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: thirty two. So I'm not saying DeAndre Hopkins can't play anymore.

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Speaker 2: He can.

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Speaker 1: He's just not what he once was, which was a

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Speaker 1: dominant number one receiver. I think he can still help

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, as we saw last night, but in different ways.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a play caller who can scheme

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Speaker 1: players open the way in which Andy Reid can, he

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Speaker 1: can maximize what Hopkins is still capable of giving you.

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Speaker 3: Hopkins costs more money too. I mean, let's think about

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Speaker 3: that as well, and what made sense for Buffalo. I

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Speaker 3: also think the Chiefs needed somebody like Hopkins more than

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Speaker 3: the Bills did. The Bills have playmakers on offense more

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Speaker 3: than just one. This Chiefs team was an offense that

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01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 3: they didn't have much going for them. I think they

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Speaker 3: were out there looking for a big name like DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: Marii Cooper is still a big name. But what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying is Buffalo had those playmakers already. They were just

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Speaker 3: looking for somebody to help add to the equation that

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Speaker 3: they already had going on.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we

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Speaker 1: come back more your phone calls. We'll lead off with

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Speaker 1: Carmine and Ken Moore and others holding at eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty, but we do.

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Speaker 2: Have open lines for you.

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Speaker 1: So on this trade deadline day, do you think the

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Speaker 1: Bills need to make a roster move and if so,

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Speaker 1: where you let us know next? Here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Klada Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Here on a Tuesday, it is time for Heating Up

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Speaker 2: Heating Up. That's an easy one.

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Speaker 1: It's Khalil Shakir in his last two games alone, seventeen

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Speaker 1: receptions for one hundred and fifty seven yards. And the

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Speaker 1: thing that's stuck out to me, Maddie, particularly last week

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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, his ability to fight through tackles. Despite

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Speaker 1: not being a big, wide framed guy.

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Speaker 2: He is slippery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is just so low to the ground when

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Speaker 3: he makes his catches. It's the balance that he has

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: to kind of bounce off defenders run through them, I

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Speaker 3: think is something that is incredible, something that a lot

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Speaker 3: of receivers can't do. But you know, when he's got

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Speaker 3: the ball in his hands, he's going to try and

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Speaker 3: fight for those extra yards and you've seen him do

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Speaker 3: it because he ranks top ten in YAK yards this

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: season his catch percent and just threw the roof best

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. One thing that amazes me and really

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Speaker 3: impresses me about the way that he plays the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver position is just his awareness of space. I think

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01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: that's just such a fascinating part of the game. Is

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01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 3: the space within the field when you're operating on offense,

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01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 3: is to find those open areas. And Josh Allen spoke

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Speaker 3: to how Shakir is so good with space when he's

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Speaker 3: on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some that Travis Kelsey has perfected for years

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Wouldn't be a bad thing if Shakier

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Speaker 1: proves to be every bit as good as Kelsey is

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Speaker 1: and can be a similar type of weapon for Josh

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Speaker 1: in terms of moving the sticks. So he is unquestionably

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Speaker 1: our subject for heating up cooling down. However, is Buffalo's

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: run defense little leaky? Last week? Got some uncharacteristic poor

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Speaker 1: tackling from the unit last week a lot of arm tackles,

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: guys reaching into gaps instead of being in gaps, had

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Speaker 1: trouble setting the edge at times, and maybe that was

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Speaker 1: a byproduct too of having a backup corner in in

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Speaker 1: place of Benford, having some backup defensive linemen in at

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Speaker 1: the end of that game after losing Smoot, So you

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Speaker 1: know you had some mitigating circumstances. But that's got to

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01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: be short up in a hurry here. Knowing that Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor is next on the docket in Indianapolis, and Matty

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Speaker 1: already pointed out his history against the Bills, a five

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01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: touchdown performance a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just Jonathan Taylor. I spoke about this

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Speaker 3: earlier in the show. You get into November and December

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Speaker 3: during the season and you look at who the Bills

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Speaker 3: are facing on the schedule. They've got the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers in just a few weeks. Christian McCaffrey is starting

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01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: to ramp up again, so he's going to be somebody

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Speaker 3: that the Bills are going to have to be aware

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Speaker 3: of in just a few weeks. So it'd be nice

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: to have a get right game against the Colts with

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and hopefully that can turn into consistency going forward.

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Speaker 1: Another team that's that when Power run and won a

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Speaker 1: game last night where the Kansas.

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it wasn't the Pat Mahomes show.

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Speaker 1: They were power running Kareem Hunt and with great effectiveness

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Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay, who has a really good nose tackle

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Speaker 1: in Vitavea. So that was that did not go unnoticed

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Speaker 1: by me. I'll be very interested to see if that

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Speaker 1: continues over the next couple of weeks for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: as an added dimension to their offense.

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Speaker 2: But let's get back to the phones.

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Speaker 1: At eight h three zero five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five point fifty two five point fifty on

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Speaker 1: this trade deadline day, do the Bills need to make

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Speaker 1: a roster move and if so, where as promised, we

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Speaker 1: lead off with Carmine and Ken Moore.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Carmine, Yeah, I don't have a roster move, per se.

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Speaker 5: I'm okay with I'm not making, you know, not doing anything.

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Speaker 5: Just get the guys off their practice squad. But my

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 5: call in today is to kind of dispute weather car

1510
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 5: had earlier about von Miller being useless. I highly highly

1511
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 5: dispute that, you know, he's being unfairly judged by his

1512
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 5: performances from years past but this past weekend against Miami,

1513
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 5: I mean there had to be at least a half

1514
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 5: double a dozen plays that I saw where he was

1515
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 5: bull rushing, uh, you know, his blocker right in the

1516
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: tour and now we know that, you know, Tour has

1517
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 5: got a quick trigger, and he had to make it

1518
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 5: even quicker. Uh, and it kept you know, all the

1519
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 5: play kind of right in front of the backfield. I

1520
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 5: mean the longest road that Too made was twenty eight yards,

1521
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 5: you know, down to Tyreek Hill. And I don't even

1522
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 5: think von Miller was even on the field then. And

1523
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 5: because we know that, you know, the Miami's uh, you

1524
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 5: know receivers are probably one of the top you know,

1525
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 5: deep threat, deep thread duos in the league. So von

1526
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 5: Miller is not useless, and if he was, he would

1527
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 5: not be on the field. The other is, uh, yesterday,

1528
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 5: you guys were kind of snickering about the celebrations that

1529
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 5: the Bills had, you know, and they're digging into the

1530
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 5: ground and putting their hands in their mouth and Dion

1531
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 5: Dawkins doing that. I thought it was an ant eater,

1532
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 5: But do you think that has anything to do with

1533
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 5: you know, everybody eats kind of mantra I'll hang up

1534
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 5: and listen.

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a possibility. It's interesting that you bring that up.

1536
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: Come mine.

1537
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: My wife even had a theory of Mac Collins only

1538
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: eating with his hands, and was that what that was about?

1539
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: So I don't know, did you You're gonna do some

1540
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: intel tomorrow.

1541
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to do some intel tomorrow. I should have

1542
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: asked last night because Dion had his Chalent Snow event

1543
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: that I was a part of, and there was a

1544
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: bunch of players there, so I should have remembered to

1545
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: ask them last night. But the mystery continues. I'm going

1546
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 3: to figure out figure it out tomorrow.

1547
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have another trade that is taking place.

1548
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: We've got a trade alert here.

1549
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: The Steelers have made another player acquisition. They already acquired

1550
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: Mike Williams from the Gys. They have now acquired pass

1551
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: rusher Preston Smith from the Packers, so they now have

1552
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: four legitimate edge rushers on their roster. Obviously TJ. Watt

1553
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: and Alex high Smith. They have Nick Herbig who's been injured.

1554
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: I think he's due to.

1555
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: Come back though.

1556
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: Now they have thirty two year old Preston Smith to

1557
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 1: add to the fold as well. So the Steelers clearly

1558
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: think they are in the running in the AFC with

1559
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: the way they are loading up on both offense and

1560
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: on defense.

1561
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 2: Do the Bills need.

1562
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: To make a move in your opinion, got about an

1563
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: hour and change to do it? You let us know

1564
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: at eighth three, five point fifty. Next up is George

1565
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: and cheek Towaga. What do you got for is Georgia

1566
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live.

1567
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 14: How we do.

1568
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 11: Two things? Actually, I noticed after the pass to Quinton

1569
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 11: Morris a lot of Josh's throws were low after that

1570
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 11: one because he took that was the second big hit

1571
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 11: in the days. So is there anything about him hurting

1572
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 11: his shoulder or ribs or anything like that do we

1573
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 11: know of.

1574
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: Nope, nothing came out of the game on.

1575
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 15: That, okay.

1576
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 11: And then secondly, when Jalen Wanald got hurt, they okay,

1577
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 11: they stop the clock, they take him off the field,

1578
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 11: and then they ran the clock down to the two

1579
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 11: minute warning I think it was, and he came back

1580
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 11: on the field for the next play, so he never

1581
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 11: missed a play. And then why did they keep the

1582
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 11: clock running? Shouldn't it have been an injury time out?

1583
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1584
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I was a little miffed by that as well, because

1585
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 1: I remember saying, oh, they did restart the clock.

1586
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: I did that on the broadcast. Yeah, I was a little.

1587
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Perplexed by that, and I actually forgot to look into

1588
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: that myself, George, So I'm gonna have to figure out

1589
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: what went on there. And yeah, I know what you're

1590
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: saying about missing a play. My guess is because the

1591
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: clock ran and then you had the two minute warning

1592
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: stop it quote unquote stopping play, that Waddle was allowed.

1593
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: To re enter the game. That's my guess.

1594
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't know that for certain, but that's my guess

1595
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: on that, but I'll try to get an answer. I'll

1596
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: look into that and see why that was the next

1597
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: chance I get to look it up and see what

1598
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,879
Speaker 1: exactly the rule.

1599
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: Is for that. Let's go to Patrick in New Jersey.

1600
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 2: What's up, Patrick?

1601
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 15: Hey, Hi, thanks you taking my call. Sure so, and

1602
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 15: I saw a lot going on, and I think everyone

1603
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 15: needs to take a step back and can read a

1604
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 15: little bit. The defense certainly was showing out in certain places,

1605
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 15: but I think keeping the fall in front of them

1606
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 15: and not allowing pass over tough. You're you're gonna allow

1607
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,480
Speaker 15: more runs and we can clean up some tackling and

1608
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 15: get in there, and I'm sure mcdermot's going to handle

1609
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 15: of that. But I think everyone mafia to take an

1610
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 15: eight forth relaxed a little bit. You know, there are

1611
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 15: seventy two survis and you know you're undefeated teams only

1612
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 15: winning by overtime with a lot of help referee in

1613
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 15: the swifteas. So I'll hang up and enjoy it.

1614
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: Because, Okay, he's just saying, everybody keep calm and carry on.

1615
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1616
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills are trying to correct some of

1617
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: the deficiencies that cropped up in the game. Coach said

1618
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 1: they got a lot to clean up despite the victory.

1619
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: That's kind of their job. They got to work on

1620
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: those things. I understand he's talking about the fan perspective here, but.

1621
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Expectations are pretty high here now. This team goes to

1622
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1623
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Every year, so some might view the criticisms as tiki

1624
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: tac while others are like, God, we got.

1625
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: To win the whole thing.

1626
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 14: What's going on?

1627
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess taking a big picture view at the

1628
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 3: Bills compared to the rest of the NFL, it could

1629
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: be way worse. But when you think about the expectations,

1630
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 3: like you said, that are on this team, that have

1631
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: been on this group for the last few seasons, several

1632
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 3: seasons now as they make a push for their fifth

1633
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 3: straight AFC East title, you want this team to play

1634
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 3: a certain way. You want them to be what they're

1635
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 3: known for, the top five defense in a lot of

1636
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 3: different statistical categories, and you don't want to see any

1637
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,440
Speaker 3: of that slip as you go into November and December

1638
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: when you want to be playing your best football. I mean,

1639
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 3: in a month or so, we're going to be talking

1640
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 3: about peaking at the right time. When is the right

1641
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: time for this team to peak? Steve Tasker and I

1642
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 3: were talking about it on our postgame show last week.

1643
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: Is that we've seen elements of what we think is

1644
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 3: the best that this team can be, but we haven't

1645
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 3: seen them put it all together yet.

1646
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they haven't played their best game front to back.

1647
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: Maybe with the exception of the Jacksonville game, that's probably

1648
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: the closest they came to as airtight a performance as

1649
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: you could have. And hopefully that game is out there

1650
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: somewhere in the not too distant future.

1651
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: Here, maybe it's this week against Indy. Who knows. They

1652
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: do have to get healthier too. I think that's obvious.

1653
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here.

1654
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: One final segment to wrap things up here on One

1655
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: Bill's Lives by Collida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

1656
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 1: right back here on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Maddy

1657
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: clab on a Tuesday, And we did get the compensation

1658
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 1: that the Packers got for sending veteran pass rusher Preston

1659
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Smith to the Steelers.

1660
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: It is a seventh round pick.

1661
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: The Packers are eating twenty two million in dead cap

1662
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: to get rid of Preston Smith and they only got

1663
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: a seventh in return. So it's a good acquisition for

1664
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: the Steelers who are clearly amping up already good pass

1665
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: rush defense. They got like four guys they can roll

1666
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: through now, Preston Smith, Nick Herbig, Alex high Smith, TJ.

1667
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: Watt. That is a quartet. That's a pretty good group.

1668
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and adding a guy like this last three seasons

1669
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 3: nine sacks, eight and a half sacks, eight sacks.

1670
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: So he's still been productive even at his advanced age.

1671
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: So that's impressive.

1672
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: We've been asking you all day trade deadline day, do

1673
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: the Bills need to make a move. Here are some

1674
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: final thoughts on the tweet sheet. J madd says, we

1675
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: could use help on both sides. I say Sebastian Joseph

1676
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,839
Speaker 1: Day for defense, and since most of our wide receivers

1677
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: are banged up, DJ Moore would be nice. I don't

1678
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: think DJ Moore is readily available. Could be wrong, but

1679
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. The Bears did trade a running

1680
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 1: back today, Khalil Herbert to Cincinnati, but he's kind of.

1681
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: An important part of it.

1682
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the name is a little too big.

1683
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Christopher Sebastian Joseph Day, I suppose could be moved, but

1684
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: we'll have to see. Christopher says, secondary needs secondary run stoppers. Well,

1685
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: that's why you want Benford to get back in the lineup,

1686
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 1: because he's a great edgesetter in the run front, along

1687
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,839
Speaker 1: with Rasul Douglas, who's pretty darn good himself.

1688
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 2: But we'll see. There's two open roster spots now, Maddie.

1689
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: And you could arguably make an ad on the defensive

1690
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 1: front and in the secondary because you've got two spots

1691
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: to work with.

1692
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 3: We've got about an hour left to see if anything's

1693
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 3: gonna happen. It'll be interesting if nothing happens, to see

1694
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: how they work the practice squad in terms of elevation.

1695
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just simple free agency.

1696
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: You know who's out there that they deem as an

1697
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: attractive commodity that they think could help them.

1698
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,560
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. Back tomorrow.

1699
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: We've got ESPN's Field Yates coming your way. We'll see

1700
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: on Wednesday at one