1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the official Morning Got Real podcast sponsored 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: by Man. I'm excited podcast for a number of reasons. Well, 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: reason number one, it is game week. We are finally 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: entering into the regular season, despite not having preseason and 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: all of the craziness that's gone on over the last 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: few months. But also excited with for my guest today, 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: I am joined but from the athletics, David Lombardi. You 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: can catch him on Twitter at Lombardi himself, no one else, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: just him, Lombardi himself. David, how's it going. How excited 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: are you to see a game? You know, even just 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: watching practice, I felt like there was some normalcy coming 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: back as far as the football schedule went. So the game, 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a real blessing after 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: all these months of just talking about football and speculating 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: about what the forty Niners may do, what they say here, 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: what they may do their you know, with with a 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: good team, there's more scrutiny involved in that situation, right, 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: So I feel it's been double torture for forty Niners 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: fans because they do have that good team. So you 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: do scrutinize and over scrutinze things and be they're coming 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: off of a Super Bowl loss, and that's when you 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: really just want to get back out there. And that's 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen on September, And how do you think they're 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: going to pull this off? And I think the NFL 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: has done a great job. Not enough people are talking 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: about that. In my opinion, I think that so far 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: the NFL and the forty Niners obviously part of that effort, 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: have done what they need to do to make sure 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: they can pull this off this season. There's still a 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: lot of hard work ahead, but boy, am I excited 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: to watch some football on September thirteen. Tell me about it. 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Forty Niners hosting the Arizona Cardinals Sunday. As David said September, 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a ton of storylines we can talk 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: to you going into the season, but I think this 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: is a great opportunity for us to just kind of 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: go through this roster. Forty Niners set their ross. They 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: turned the roster down to fifty three men practice squad. 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: They got six team guys, which I feel like right now, 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: practice squad has been It's more important than it has 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: ever been given the circumstances of COVID um, it's improved 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: from sixteen or ten players to now sixteen and that 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: also includes six veteran players with unlimited experience. It wasn't 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: like that year's prior. One guy I can pull out 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: as an example everyone's been talking about is Jonathan Cyprian, 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: who was a veteran now going into his eight NFL season. 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: At first he said practice squad wasn't necessarily an option, 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: and now change of heart on the team's practice squad. 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: So before we dive into the actual roster, were there 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: any surprises for you when looking at how this fifty 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: three took shape or this practice squad took shape. Well, 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. With Jonathan Cyprian, I think that's 52 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: great insight into the building that Kyle Shanahan and John 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Lynch have been running. Because Cyprian actually said that to 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: the media when somebody asked him about two weeks ago, 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: would you consider joining the practice squad? And he flat 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: out and said no, based on what we've heard after, 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan called Jonathan Siffrian into his office right after 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: that happened, right, so he he brought him into his 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: office right after that happened and said, Hey, this is 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: something that we really want to change your mind on. 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: This is something that's really important to us because this season, 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: like you said, the practice squad is a different equation 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: than it has been in the past, and there's been 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: a stigma in the past, and there probably still is 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: amongst some players in the league that the practice squad is, 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, something that, especially as a veteran, you would 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: never consider doing. Obviously there are now those six veterans spots, 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: but it's much more of a taxi squad this year. 69 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: There's a chance to call a player up for a 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: game or two during the regular season while still keeping 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: him on that practice squad salary. So that means they're 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: much closer to being a part of that fifty three 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: man rowster than they ever were. And then obviously a 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: promotion can happen at any time to the regular roster 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: if they're already in the building and learning the system. 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: So I think the fact that Kyle Shanahan went out 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: of his way brought Jonathan Cifrey and in how to 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: talk with him, kept the line of dialogue open, made 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: sure that you know, the communication was good. I thought 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: that was extremely indicative of how well this forty Niners 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: regime has you know, fostered just a positive environment in 82 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: the building that doesn't judge a player if if he 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: has concerns about something, doesn't like a certain idea, but 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: sits there and talks to him, maintains a good relationship 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: with him. And then now you have what I would 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: consider a surprise. Jonathan Cyprian, less than two weeks after 87 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: flatly saying no to being on the forty practice squad 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: is a key member of that practice squad, and there's 89 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: a good chance they're gonna need him on the three 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: man roster this year, given injuries and obviously all of 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: the COVID stuff. So for me, that was, you know, 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: it might just be one player, but for me, that 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: was very indicative of a healthy organization and a healthy 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: organizational structure, and that's really going to be needed for 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: the forty Niners this year. Um As far as surprise 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: as though for the roster, I think there was only 97 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: one to me, and that I was demetrious planning in 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: fouls who had an awesome training camp right at linebacker. 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: We saw that pick six, I didn't think he was 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna make, though he made it, and I think he's 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: there to stay based on what John Lynch is said. 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: They really love his story converted safety. So he brings 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: a dB mindset to the linebacker room, which is, you know, 104 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: one of the qualities of every guy in that linebacker room. 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: The forty Niners are so good in coverage at linebacker. 106 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have six of those guys who can 107 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: go out and cover. I want to dig into the 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: linebacker position in just a few moments. But I mean 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: great insight, David Lombardi. At Lombardi himself, I always say this, like, 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate your your articles, especially your tweets. I follow 111 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: you in and all the time I'm liking I'm retweeting 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: because it's great insight. How long have you been covering 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: the team, David Well. I was lucky enough to come 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: aboard right when Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch took over 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen. And there's nothing quiet like being 116 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: able to chronicle the build of something that's turning out 117 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: to be something great. For the forty Niners, I mean, 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: they've already won an NFC championship in dominant fashion and 119 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: it only took them three years to do that. So 120 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: when I came aboard in seventeen. It obviously was a 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: whole lot different. But the thing is, I can say 122 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: that it didn't feel that different. There's been a pervasively 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: positive mood in the building throughout. I know you can 124 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: vouch for that too, and I think that's one of 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the reasons why the forty niners were able to turn 126 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: it around so quickly. Absolutely, I want to talk about 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: no preseason. You get these guys, they are coming into camp, 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: They're coming off of an off season where these guys 129 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: aren't in the building. Sometimes the guys are here for 130 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the off season workout programs beginning in April and they're 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: there through June coming back to training camp. But now 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: you have these guys they're essentially working from home, they're 133 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: meeting virtually they get here to camp. Camp is kind 134 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: of compacted into three to four weeks, and now you're 135 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: heading right into week one. How does not having a 136 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: preseason in your eyes, how did that change this evaluation 137 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: period for let's say some of the guys like Jamichael Hassey, 138 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: who will get into a little more a little down 139 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: the line, but guys like that who there could have 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: been other teams out there that were eyeing him, but 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: you have no tape. You can only go off of 142 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: what you've seen from college. I think that it mattered 143 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: most for the running back position, hands down, because you 144 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: could simulate everything else on a football field. You can 145 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: simulate blocking even without full life contact. But the one 146 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: thing that you can't fully simulate, fully simulate, and you 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: just don't know. And Kyle Shanahan is really honest about this, 148 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: is is breaking tackles making full tackles, and the breaking 149 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: tackles half of that equation, I guess is the really 150 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the toughest to evaluate, because you've got these shifty guys 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: who just you know, make a living off of shedding 152 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: these tackles. And whereas the linebackers can do all their 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: tackling drills on mats and and and really you know, 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: show how good that form is and how disciplined they 155 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: can be in such situations. For guys like running backs, 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: there is no tackling map that you can get away from, 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: right and the Fortinander has decided not to go fully 158 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: live in any of their practices as far as tackling 159 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: went this year. So I think that a guy like 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Jamichael Hasty, we just don't know how good he is 161 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: because that elusiveness and that ability to stay on the 162 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: ground and and continue turning his legs is such an 163 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: important part of his job. So for me, that was 164 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: a double edged sword. I thought that the forty Niners 165 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: couldn't afford putting him on their fifty three man roster 166 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: without knowing such a big piece of the equation for 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: a running back. But at the on the other end 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: of the spectrum when they waived him, other teams also 169 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: couldn't risk a fifty three man roster spot on a 170 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: guy that they didn't know, And the forty Niners, I think, 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to their credit this was a benefit of Kyle Shanahan 172 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: deciding not to do fully live tackling. That meant that 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: he was able to get Jeff Wilson on the fifty 174 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: three man roster is the final running back. But because 175 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: they didn't have any practices that were fully live to 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the ground, no media reports about Jamachael Hasty's ability to 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: break tackles in an actual live situation were you know, 178 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: possible to be generated, so that way they were able 179 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: to stash him on the practice slug So I think 180 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: obviously the fort Danders wanted to avoid injuries with with 181 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: their tackling policy. But I think it was also a 182 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: good chess move or good poker move maybe on Kyle 183 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan's part to also avoid that as much as possible, 184 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: because he was able to keep a guy like Hasty 185 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: on that practice slud. That's a great point that you 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: just pointed out. I wanted let's just dive right into 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: the roster. I was gonna go through a few more questions, 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: but I feel like we're already kind of getting right 189 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: into the mix of things, um, and we can just 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: keep going with running back. I feel like this roster 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: there weren't too many surprises. You know, everyone kind of 192 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: does their fifty three projections and and for the most part, 193 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there weren't too many wild cards. You 194 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: may have had a guy here, like you said, Demetrius 195 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Flannagan Fowls, he's one person, um, But I feel like 196 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, you had a good idea of 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: what this team was gonna look like, which is completely 198 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: different from both when you and I began covering the 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: team back in seventeen. But let's keep going with running back. 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: You got Tevin Coleman where he moster. Jerick McKinnon we 201 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: just talked about Jeff Wilson Jr. And I'm also going 202 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: to throw Kyle you check the fullback into the mix, 203 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: but Pacy got him onto practice squad. Anything stand out 204 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: to you here with the running back position. I think 205 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: that Jeff Wilson is a very underrated player who we 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: need to keep an eye out or right off the 207 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: bat in Week one because he made a name for 208 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: himself last year against the Arizona Cardinals one they came 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: to Levi Stadium, and with every Kyle Shanahan running back, 210 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: you have to look at the ability to catch the 211 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield, and I thought that was 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: a phenomenal story last year. That was a close game. 213 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: The forty Niners actually were behind big early. They had 214 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: to come all the way back and then they had 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: to score at the end of the game to win it. 216 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: And Jeff Wilson he hadn't seen a snap all game long. 217 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: He was on the bench all game long. And then 218 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: because the forty Niners had a little bit longer because 219 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,359 Speaker 1: of the time out to change the personnel, Kyle Shanahan, 220 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: as he did so often last year, you know, called 221 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: the right number, had the right gut intuition about what 222 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: was going to happen. He thought that Arizona was going 223 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: to bring a very aggressive blitz. They brought cover zero. 224 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Wilson was in there for his first snap. To this day, 225 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: it amazes me that Jimmy Garoppolo didn't see Jeff Wilson 226 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: and Jeff Wilson didn't see me Garoppolo because of the 227 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: pressure and the coverage on the play, but they connected 228 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So Jeff Wilson did what a Kyle 229 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: Shanahan back has to do. He made the catch in 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you know absolutely uh, you know, high intensity pressure at 231 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: one of those moments where you can't drop the ball. 232 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: And I think that that ability that he brings to 233 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: the back of the running back room, along with the 234 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: fact that he's more of a power back than other guys. 235 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Coleman maybe a little bit of a power back, but 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: not as much as Jeff Wilson, who really hits the 237 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: whole runs north and south, is able to score a 238 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: lot of those red zone touchdowns in you know, physical spaces. 239 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: I think that you have an excellent guide a round 240 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: out that room. And I think that you know, given 241 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: the fact that Fortnighters were able to get him onto 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster means that they have a 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: running back room, that they can delegate different types of responsibilities, 244 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: the different backs and that type of versatility. We saw 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: how effective it was for the Ford and Owners last year, 246 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: and I think they're absolutely going to be able to 247 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: recreate it here. Crazy to believe a year ago from 248 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: right now, Jeff Wilson Jr. Was actually on the practice squad. 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: I remember him not making the fifty three and just 250 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: like that, it was the injury to Tevin Coleman. Um 251 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I was it was it week one, week two, but 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: injury to Tevin Coleman. He was activated shortly thereafter, and 253 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: I would love to say the rest is history. We 254 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: know what he did on the team being on that 255 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: active roster and going back to that game in against 256 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Arizona at home, all right quarterback position. I mean, there's 257 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: no surprises really there. Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Mullens, C. J. 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: Bethard Um, we we can continue to be down our 259 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: expectations for Jimmy Garoppolo. We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna 260 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: avoid that one this time because I feel like we can. 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about him so much and and he's always 262 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: going to be one of those those those storylines and 263 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: one of those players that it's so polarizing. So with that, 264 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna skip Jimmy. But I want to 265 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: go now to the wide receiver position. We've got Brandon 266 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: I you, Kendrick Born, Richie James, Dante Pettis, Deebo Samuel, 267 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: and Trent Taylor, both I looked at on the Athletic 268 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: You guys can check that out. Both David and I 269 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: on our own fifty three projections had John Jennings on 270 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: our fifty three. UH. He was actually released, but was 271 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: signed to the team's practice squad. UM. As far as 272 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: an update on Deebo Samuel, John Lynch said this week 273 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: that he has a shot to be available on week one. 274 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: He will be doing some the fortnights. We're doing some 275 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: some run throughs with the doctors, his doctor who's surgeon, 276 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and also the team doctor see if he will be 277 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: on hand and ready to go. Um forts are hopeful 278 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: for Brandon. I used to be available, he was dealing 279 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. Leslie Martin from Fulsome, California wants 280 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: to know who will be the forty Niners number one receiver. 281 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: And when I I asked her question, has he ever truly, 282 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: especially looking at this offense right now, how he ever 283 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: had just a number one receiver? Do you see someone 284 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: possibly taking that title this year? Well, there's the really 285 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: subjective notion of the number one receiver, which is what 286 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: I think that the question is about. And I think 287 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo has had that throughout his entire 288 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: time with the forty Niners, and it's George Kittle. You 289 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: cannot stereotype receivers in this Kyle Shanahan offense. The total 290 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: of ten tight ends and wide receivers made the fifty 291 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: three man roster, and I think that you can't just 292 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: look at the group of six wide receivers that made it, 293 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: or the group of four tight ends that made it. 294 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at them collectively. Because 295 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: the forty Niners will aligned tight ends up wide very frequently. Peck, 296 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: they'll even line their fullback Kyle use check out wide 297 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: something like sixty or seventy times last year. No other 298 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: team is doing that with the fullback to that extent, 299 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: and the fording Ners are definitely doing it more than 300 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: any other team and now they're starting to get copied 301 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: around the league because of the success. But with their 302 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: tight ends, they're they're alyning of these guys up everywhere. 303 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: And we just saw it in George Kittle's new, you know, 304 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: groundbreaking contract. It took a while for them to find 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: that that sweet zone because of the dynamics of the market. 306 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: But you know, he's being paid like a wide receiver. 307 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Now if you look at that, at the numbers of 308 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: that deal. So George Kittle, if you're you know, just 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: talking about that that kind of elusive title number one 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver, George Kittle is that guy for the forty Niners. 311 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: He is Garoppolo's primary target if we're talking technically speaking, 312 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: leading past catcher as far as the amount of receptions, 313 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: in my prediction is Trent Taylor, and that shocks a 314 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of people. But I mean, you said you didn't 315 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about Jimmy Garoppolo, but we have to 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: because we're talking about the receivers. I think if the 317 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: forty Niners do what Jimmy is built to do, what 318 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: he's best at doing. He's got an unbelievably quick ease. 319 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: He throws extremely well in between the numbers. If if 320 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: cal Shanahan is able to capitalize on that and Taylor 321 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: the offense around that, then what you're gonna see is 322 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: an offense that runs through big tight ends were lining 323 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: up a lot in the slot, maybe occasionally out Why 324 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: you saw New England do it back when they had 325 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez back in eleven and twelve. 326 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: And then to supplement those two tight ends, you're gonna 327 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: have a slot receiver who has opened a lot on 328 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: very quick slants and quick outs back in those years. 329 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: New England in twenty twelve, their leading receiver was not 330 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski. It was Wes Welker. He had a hundred 331 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty catches per year in two thousand eleven and two twelve. 332 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: And guess what Wes Welkers at receiving coach and Trent 333 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Taylor even long before he even knew less well, for 334 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: when he was at Louisiana Tech, people called him West. 335 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: That's how that's how much of a similarity. And there 336 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: are two styles. There's he got to five eight slot 337 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: receive eavers who are very good at getting open and 338 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: quick short area of space and getting the ball from 339 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback with a quick release. Yes, who was Tom 340 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Brady's air apparent in New England. It was Jimmy Garoppolo. 341 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: That's why Jimmy Garoppolo and Trent Taylor pairs so well. 342 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: And now that Trent Taylor is healthy again, I think 343 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: the forty Niners are going to try to run that 344 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: that Patriot style tight end slash slot offense. And I 345 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see Trent Taylor lead this team and catches. 346 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Even if there are a bunch of short catches, He's 347 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna leave this team and catches and really supplemented the 348 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, who I think is George Kittle. 349 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: If you remember last year, there are a lot of 350 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: reports coming out everyone was talking about Trent Taylor's training camp, 351 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: how he looked, how great he came back, And I 352 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: feel like he and Jimmy picked up right where they 353 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: left off last training camp. H just just so far 354 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: through the practices, It just it seems seamless to me, 355 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: is seamless, and there's a reason for that. It's no 356 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: accident that Jimmy Apolo was sixteen of sixteen on slant 357 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: passes to Trent Taylor in two thousand seventeen. In those 358 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: five games. I mean that was his bread and butter. 359 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean everybody exploded once Garoppolo took over that year 360 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: in December, But the rapport with Taylor is what got 361 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: that started. Remember the game in Chicago, I think it 362 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: was week thirteen of that seen season. That was Garoppolo's debut, 363 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: at least starting for the forty niners. The winning catch 364 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: in that game was a third down crossing pattern over 365 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: there and to Trent Taylor, who was able to beat 366 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: the nickel back and off he went to set up 367 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: the game winning field goal for Robbie Gold. So when 368 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: you have a player with the short area quickness that 369 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: Taylor has the ability to really just plant that foot, 370 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: that right foot in or that left foot in, either 371 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: one for him works. He's ambidexterous when it comes to 372 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: the feet. I don't know what the word for that is, 373 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: but he could line up on either side, he could 374 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: take that nickel back. If if you're unwise enough to 375 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: put uh safety on him, then then it's completely over. 376 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: But normally about the bringing that nickel cornerback against Trent Taylor, 377 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: and he can get open in a short amount of 378 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: time against those guys and Jimmy Garoppolo is great. I mean, 379 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: he is one of the best quarterbacks in the league 380 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: at the at the quick release over the middle, that's 381 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: his bread and butter. I mean there are scouts that 382 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: that have said that his his release might be the 383 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: fastest in the league. So we can talk all day 384 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: about perceived weaknesses that Jimmy Garoppolo has, but you can 385 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: throw those all out the window. If the forty Niners 386 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: are able to steam an offense, that that that gets 387 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: receivers open to compliment what Garoppolo does best. And it 388 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: just so happens that Trent Taylor has that perfectly complimentary 389 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: skill set to him and that's why we've seen them 390 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: pick up well, you know, pick up where they left 391 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: off like nothing happened. Another question, just on the wide 392 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: receiver front. Ray Greppie from St. Pete Beach, Florida wants 393 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: to know, do you see the forty Niners going after 394 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a guy like Mohammed Sannu. I feel like every time 395 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: that a free agent or a player becomes available, you 396 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: automatically get those questions. Forty matters should get this person, 397 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: they should sign this person, sign this one. But mohamedsan 398 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: New we know he had experienced under Kyle Shanahan back 399 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta was just released by the Patriots. What's your 400 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: take on that. Well, with mohamedsan New, you have a 401 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: player who obviously saw great success with Kyle Shanahan back 402 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: when Shanahan was an offensive coordinator there. I'm just not 403 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: so sure that that New wasn't past his prime. You know, 404 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: he's now an older receiver. He's coming off his worst 405 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: career year with New England last season. I don't know 406 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: if that's an indictment of Tom Brady getting old or 407 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: or if it's more of an indictment of some new aging. 408 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: But I think that there's probably concerned with you know, 409 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: both of those factors. I think both of those factors 410 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: probably led to that because New England's passing offense was 411 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: not good last year, even after they were able to 412 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: acquire some new and there's a reason why they didn't 413 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: want to keep them around anymore this season, and I 414 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: think the forty Niners are wary of that. I think 415 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: that they're watching the film, and I think that they're 416 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: also much happier with the state of the receiving corps 417 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: right now than they were last year when they had 418 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: to go out and trade for Emmanuel Sanders because they 419 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: have a guy like Trent Taylor healthy and available, because 420 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: you have a player like Kendrick Bourne now with a 421 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: year more of seasoning, ready to take on a larger role, 422 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: because you know what Deebo Samuel can do. So I 423 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: absolutely think that the Emmanuel Sanders trade was necessary for 424 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: the forty Niners last year, and I do think that 425 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: it's had to carry over effect and that the young 426 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: guys like Born and Deebo Samuel are a year wiser 427 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: than a year better, and that means there's a whole 428 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: lot less need for the forty Niners to go out 429 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: and get a receiver who very well might be over 430 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: the hill based on what last season's performance indicated. So no, 431 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: I I don't see the forty Niners going and making 432 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: a move on that front unless we see a rash 433 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: of injuries. To be honest, we haven't seen that yet. 434 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: These guys are all expected to be back or uh 435 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, have a very good chance to be back 436 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: for Week one. So let's not act like this team 437 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: it's all too beaten up. And I know there's a 438 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: lot of panicked on social media. That's what I'm responding to, 439 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: until this team is not healthy week one, let's you know, 440 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: let's pump the brakes of it. Because the goal of 441 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: the training staff has been to get the rented team 442 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: ready for week one, not for week zero or or 443 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: the end of training camp. They're all shooting for that 444 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: week one return date. And when when you consider that 445 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: the receiving corps looks it looks fairly complete right now 446 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: for the forty nine. I love that well put calming 447 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: that it's it's like the hysteria that when once there's 448 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: a soft tissue injury and then there's hysteria all across 449 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: social media. But I think a lot of us forget 450 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: that this is football. There will be injuries. You can 451 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: guarantee that's going to happen. And it's not just in 452 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: this building. It's happening everywhere. You're looking around the league 453 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: and seeing some guys going down. Um, but that's what 454 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: comes with this game. But again, not preparing for week zero. 455 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: I love that you said that preparing for week one. 456 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Jumping over to tighten. We just talked about this a 457 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: little earlier. We talked about Jimmy Garoppolo's number one receiver, 458 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: George Kittle, forty Niner star tight end. In addition, we've 459 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: got Ross Dwelly, Jordan Read, the newcomer veteran Pro Bowl 460 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: tight end, and then also Ricky Charlie Warner, who was 461 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: a standout run blocker in college. Uh, George Kittle said 462 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: he wants to see four tight end sets. I'm sure 463 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan got that notice. But left tackle Churm Williams 464 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: said that this might be the best unit in the NFL. 465 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, David, what does the addition 466 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: of both Jordan Read having that veteran presence helping take 467 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: some of that pressure off of George Kittle. What does 468 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: he add to this offense? And then also I want 469 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: to talk about Charlie Warner and what he does as well. Well. 470 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: After the draft, I called up Charlie Warner's high school 471 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: coach over from Georgia, because, like George Kittle, Charlie Warner 472 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: was known as a blocker in college, but he didn't 473 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: catch many paths. Is we're we're talking about thirty or 474 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: forty catches throughout his old entire college career. So I 475 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: wanted to know what this guy might bring as a 476 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: receiver because I really knew that Kyle Shanahan has you know, 477 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: over his time with the forty nine, is the one 478 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: thing that he's black and I know that he really 479 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: wanted to develop this offseason was the ability to catch 480 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: the ball and be a receiving threat from the blocking 481 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: tight end role. Right, you have George Kittle, who's obviously 482 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end, but he's the receiving tight end. 483 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: You also have that y tight end, that guy who's 484 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: in line more often, who's a blocking specialist. And you know, 485 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: in the past, we've seen Garrett Sellec do that role. 486 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: Last year, we saw Levin to do that role, but 487 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: it hasn't been that great of a receiving threat. So 488 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Leavin Totola only caught one or two passes last year 489 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: and Garrett Sellec catching passes down field became you know, 490 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: it was such an abnormality within the scheme of the offense. 491 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Is that the forty Owners developed the whole celebration called 492 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Select Time to to to celebrate it. Right, the forty 493 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Owners want to turn that into a regularity. They don't 494 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: want Select time, they don't want it to be Warner time. 495 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: They want Warner to catch so many passes that that 496 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: that's something that you expect that it's not something that 497 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy about every single time the guy catches 498 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: a ten yard pass. So so I really wanted to 499 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: find out if Warner had that type of ability since 500 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't really used that way in Georgia. And his 501 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: high school coach went out and said that this guy 502 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: could be the next Rob Gronkowski. I mean, I'm quoting him. 503 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: I think the exact you know, so I don't get 504 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: the words wrong. Was Charlie Werner as a player who 505 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: can develop until Rob Gronkowski type player obviously made my 506 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: jaw drop. You know, you're like it was this hyperbole, 507 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: you know what's going on here? And then he sends 508 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: me a video of Charlie Werner. Uh is just doing 509 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: a standing backflip, Like he just jumps up and does 510 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: a backflip without you know, even having this to step 511 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: into it. And then you realize that this guy is 512 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: six five, you know, two fifty pounds and he's doing 513 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then you go and watch him 514 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: a training camp and he's starting to hide point footballs 515 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: on passes over the seam in a way that we 516 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: did not see Garence do it all with the forty niners. 517 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: We didn't see uh living in toy Lolo do that. 518 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: And you know he's not as fast as George Kittle. 519 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: This is more of a four seven forty instead of 520 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: four or five forty. But the pure athleticism outside of 521 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: the speed, ability to hide point the ball, ability to 522 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: get open on cuts is awesome, to be honest. I mean, 523 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: he had a huge camp. So I think that with 524 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Werner, you are looking at a guy who can 525 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: develop into a very credible NFL receiving threat, and that 526 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: can that can really revolutionize the forty matters offense because, 527 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: like you said, Jordan Read, this is already a Pro Bowl, 528 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: all pro level type of receiver when he's healthy at 529 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: tight end. Add that to Kittle and then had a 530 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: third one. I don't know about four tight end sets, 531 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: but I see this team running some three tight end 532 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: sets this year for sure, and and that's gonna be 533 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: hard to defend because defenses around the NFL have gotten 534 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: smaller over the years. They've gotten smaller and faster. Fortyers 535 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: are counterpunching by getting bigger and faster with these tight ends, 536 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's where Shanahan is really a step 537 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: ahead of the game. I would love to see a 538 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: guy like Charlie Warner being that dual threat, not only 539 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: as a blocker but also as a pass catcher. And 540 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: then you remember George back at Iowa what he had 541 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe forty eight total catches over his four years at Iowa. 542 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Um so who knows forty and just could have another 543 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: gym and a guy like Charlie Warner. I'm gonna jump 544 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: to the old line. I talked about Trent Williams a 545 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: few seconds ago. But you have Trent, you have Mike 546 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: McGlinchey as your two tackles, Daniel Brunskill, Tom Compton, Ben Garland, 547 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: Colton mckivitts, and justin school center Weston rich Bird will 548 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: start the season on p U p uh. We talk 549 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot about versatility. I feel like that is a must, 550 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: especially looking at this old line and dealing with injuries. 551 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: But the big question was who starts at right guard 552 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: now with Weston potentially well, Weston gonna miss some games 553 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: into the season. You also have been Garland, who's dealing 554 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: with an ankle injury. Who's that center, who's at right guard? Well, 555 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: afforda owners certainly hope that it's Ben Garland at center 556 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: and Daniel brun Skill at right guard. And you know, 557 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right to be focusing on those two positions 558 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: because I thought that was the forty weakness down the 559 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: stretch last year. I thought that better performance, their better 560 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: health there probably would have meant a Super Bowl championship 561 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: for this team, and it didn't. You know, with all 562 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: the blame that is throwing Jimmy Garoppolo's away for that 563 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, just put on the film and you'll see 564 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: the forty Niners getting dominated inside by Chris Jones, is 565 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: obviously one of the best players in the NFL. But 566 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's the reality of the NFL. When 567 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: you play huge games, you're gonna go up against great players, 568 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: and those great players are going to create fracture points 569 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: and you have to counter with performances of your own 570 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: of those fracture points to make sure you neutralize those 571 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: great players. So if the forty owners want to be 572 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the Chief this year, if they want to be any 573 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: elite team this year, they're gonna have to get better 574 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: performance at center and right guard, especially in past protection. 575 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: So Ben Garland was good last year, especially run blocking wise, 576 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: he was middle of the pack when it came to 577 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: past protection. But again that that that's I think a 578 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: phenomenal performance for a backup center. Forty Owners hope to 579 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: get West and Richard back back and fully healthy after 580 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: week six and when that guy has been healthy that 581 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: was before time with the forty Niners. With the Giants, 582 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: he was the top three past protector at center. So 583 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: the forty Owners have a reinforcement coming the goal. I 584 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: think the training staff needs to be to make sure 585 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: not to rush this guy back, make sure this guy 586 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: rich Bird comes back and is able to be at 587 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: a hundred percent for basically the first time in his 588 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: forty Niners tenure, because I think that would solve a 589 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of problems up front. And then the hope 590 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: is that Daniel Brunskill, who was awesome last year starting 591 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: at left tackle, right tackle, and then right guard, you 592 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: didn't give up a single pressure against Seattle in week seventeen. 593 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, he's been all over the line. 594 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: He's been taking center snaps here in the pinch during 595 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: training camp. But I think the forty Niners really believe 596 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: that his home can be right guard and he could 597 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: be the answer at that position for this team. So 598 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: you know they don't want any further injuries. They want 599 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Garland back from that ankle injury, then they want Richford back. 600 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: And I think that the key is that if those 601 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: two guys in man center, bron Skill doesn't have to 602 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: mess around a center, run Skill can focus on right guard, 603 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: and that solves a whole lot of the issues at 604 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: the forty Niners saw last year and may solve some 605 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: of the heartbreak they saw last year in the Super Bowl. 606 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Manscape is the official below the waste grooming partner of 607 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Try Manscape and get off and free 608 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: shipping with code forty Niners at manscaped dot com. That's 609 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: code forty Niners off at manscape dot com. I'm gonna 610 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: switch over. We are washing our hands with the often, 611 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: so we're going to head our way to the defense, 612 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: starting with one of the most exciting positions. Everyone's so 613 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: excited to talk about some of these names, and rightfully so, 614 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: looking at what they did last year. I'm talking about 615 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Eric Armstead, Nick Bosa, d For Kevin Gibbons, 616 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: Carry Hider, d J Jones, Javon Kinlaw, Kentavius Street and 617 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, a couple of names I definitely want to 618 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: highlight in their forty Niners aimed to have Nick Boson 619 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: de Ford on hand for week one. Both missed the 620 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: latter half of training camp with injuries. Speaking of Ford, 621 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Forts restructured his contract over the weekend. People are assuming, oh, 622 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: something big must be coming up down the pipeline. But 623 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: what's your take, what's your idea behind that? Well, you 624 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: look at the larger situation here on the forty Niners 625 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: are about to enter a very potentially compromising time for 626 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: a team that is in contention because the salary cap, 627 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: which is tied to lead revenues, is very likely going 628 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: to tumble in two thousand twenty one because fans won't 629 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: be in the stands and obviously essentially every business in 630 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: the world right now has been affected by what's happened 631 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: this year. So the forty Niners entered this whole COVID 632 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: thing with their future projections indicating or predicting that the 633 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: salary cap in two one was going to be somewhere 634 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: between two hundred fifteen and two hundred twenty million dollars. Well, 635 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: now the floor for the salary cap in one has 636 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: been set at a hundred seventy five million dollars. Maybe 637 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: the NFL will be able to recoup some of the 638 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: potentially lost revenue. Maybe it won't go all the way 639 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: down the hundred seventy five million dollars, but I think 640 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: everybody has to budget and has to act as if 641 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: it will. You know, otherwise you could really leave yourself 642 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: in a very vulnerable and compromised position. So the difference 643 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: between a hundred seventy five million and two hundred and 644 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: fifteen million is vast. I'm not a math person, but 645 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: I think that's forty million or so dollars. And the 646 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: forty Niners are doing and have done whatever it takes 647 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: to be able to put themselves into a better position 648 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: next offseason when they have so many players who are 649 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: free agents that they're going to need to resign. Uh. 650 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: So they're not over budget because as of right now 651 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: they don't have much cap space at all. So remember 652 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: the cap space here carries over to one if you 653 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: don't use it. So by restructuring d Ford's contract right now, 654 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: opening up nine point five million in new space, the 655 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: forty Honors will be able to support some of that 656 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: money over and do some of the expensive business that 657 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: they have on the agenda in one and it's you know, 658 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: that's extend Trent Williams. Maybe you want to extend Richard Sherman. 659 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole secondary is going to need an 660 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: extension next year. The don't have a DBS under contract 661 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: except for Jimmy Ward past that season, so uh, it's 662 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those. Carmon Policy, who was the 663 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: former Forty Honors President general manager back in ninety four 664 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: when the forty Honors built their super team the salary 665 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: cap first came out, That's exactly what he had to do. 666 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: The forty Is essentially invented this. They were the first 667 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: team to be able to work the cab by by 668 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: giving a bigger signing bonus as part of a restructure 669 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: so the cap hits are spread out over future years. 670 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: And the Niners did that back in ninety four. It 671 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: changed the way that the NFL work. They set the example. 672 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: Everybody copied them. Well, now six years later, because of 673 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: this whole cap current due to COVID, the forty Niners 674 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: have to do the same thing. Karmen Policy said about 675 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: ninety four, he said it was like dancing through rain drops. Well, 676 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: the Ford is gonna have to dance through rain drops 677 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: again if they're going to keep this roster together and 678 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: the d Ford move, you can expect more like that. 679 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: They're part of that. And what they require an ownership 680 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: that is committed to the football team. Financially. Fordy owners 681 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: have that because you have to pay the guy the 682 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: nine point five million or I think with in d 683 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: Fourth's case it was thirteen million signing bonus. You have 684 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: to be willing to pay them all that money at once. 685 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Not every team is able or willing to do that, 686 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: but the forty Niners are, and that that's what's going 687 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: to allow them to work in the cap here a 688 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: bit and get through these tough times. We're talking about 689 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: dollars in the forty Niners were forced to their hand, 690 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: was essentially forced to trade away a guy like de 691 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner. Um, it's hard to pay a guy like 692 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: that when you you have so many other guys to 693 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: take care of. Um. You actually wrote something about or 694 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: similar to this on the Athletic and you're talking about 695 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: how do the forty Niners replace the guy like DEFO, 696 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: It's not going to be just on one guy, your 697 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: Javon kim Law, It's going to take effort from basically 698 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: every guy you've got here to help pick up that load. 699 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the interior guys, Guys 700 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: like Solomon Thomas, who has had a great training camp, 701 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: can Tavia Street, Kevin Gibbons. What did you see out 702 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: of some of these guys at camp. Well, the depths 703 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: along the interior defensive line is going to be excellent 704 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: this year. And that's actually an area of the team 705 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: and an area of the defense that I think is 706 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: clearly already improved over, and that that's the thing that 707 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: fort Ners need. That's not just a luxury because you 708 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: have lost the Forest Buckner. So when you lose your 709 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: front line free technique along the interior of that line, 710 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to be especially if it's the star 711 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: of Buckner's caliber. It's unrealistic to think that one player 712 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: is going to replace him. The forty Niners in the 713 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: long run do hope that Javon kin Law replaces the 714 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: Forest Buckner's productivity at that three technique spot. But Buckner 715 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: obviously is an all pro kind Laws a rookie kid 716 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: Law is a very different skill set than Buckner. Whereas 717 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Buckner came into the league as a player who you know, 718 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: had the pass rush technique moves, but needed to learn 719 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: how to anchor, kin Law has come into the league 720 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: as a player who doesn't really have the pass frush 721 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: technique moves, but he already knows that an anchor. And 722 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: he's three. He's thirty pounds heavier than the Forest Buckner. 723 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get more of a run stopper at 724 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: first from Javon kin Law. You're probably gonna lose a 725 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: lot of the pass rushing punch that DeForrest Buckner gave you. Therefore, 726 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: the depth on the interior is going to have to 727 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: supplement whatever kim Law gives you so that you don't 728 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: lose too much from the Buckner departure. And that's where 729 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas bulking up from two six pounds to over 730 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: two pounds so he can be exclusively on the inside 731 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: comes in. That's where Cantavius Streets amazing surge coming off 732 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: of a really tough a c L Tare and twenty 733 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: eight team comes in. I mean, Street has looked like 734 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: a completely different player, and his teammates say that he's 735 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: made the biggest jump of all the defensive linemen. Uh 736 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: and that's where that's where Kevin Gibbons comes in. Also, 737 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: don't forget Carrie Hider, big signing, came out of Dallas. 738 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: Knows Chris to start from his time at Detroit. You know, 739 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: you talk to guys who know the defensive line, they 740 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: say that Carry Hider is one of the toughest linemen 741 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: in football. He's not going to be a flashy lineman, 742 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: but he's exactly what the forty Niners need. He's like 743 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: a Ronald Blair could play everywhere, except Ronald Blairs. I 744 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: think natural home is on the edge, on the outside. 745 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: Carry Hider can play everywhere, but his natural home is 746 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: on the inside. So between those four guys, I mean, 747 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: then you throw healthy d J. Jones in the mix, 748 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: and he's amazing athletically, I mean as a noose tackle 749 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: of three technique athleticism which just doesn't grow on trees. 750 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, between all those guys, and then you know, 751 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: you hope that Javon kim Last starts sprouting into a 752 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: star by the end of the year. Well, I think 753 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: the forty Niners have a lot of weapons to play 754 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: with on that interior defensive line. And by the time 755 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: all of said and done, if if they play their 756 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: cards right and they've got a great coach and Christmas 757 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: Derek to to shuffle those cards around in the middle, 758 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: they can be better than last year on the defensive line, 759 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: simply because depth is so important. Yeah, that's something that's 760 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: very exciting to see. How can this team with the 761 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: depth pieces, with another year aside from some of the 762 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: new guys, but another year under Chris Casseric, how this 763 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: group can take another step forward. That's one the I 764 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: feel like one of the things that I'm looking forward 765 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: to most when when looking ahead to this season. Jump 766 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: into linebackers. All right, we have Kwan, Alexander I, Fred Warner, 767 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: I have an asterisk by his name. We'll get to 768 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: in justus, a second, Dre Greenlaw, ziz Al share Mark Nazacha, 769 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: and Demetrius Flanagan fouls. We talked about him at the 770 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: top of the show. Warner. Warner is currently on the 771 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: COVID reserve list. Um Lynch at the forty Niners have 772 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: seven linebackers that they're excited about. The seven all The 773 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: seventh includes veteran Joe Walker, who is on the team's 774 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: practice squad. But how do you replace a guy like 775 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: Fred should he not be on hand in Week one? Well, 776 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. The good years is they have three 777 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: starting caliber linebackers on this team. So beyond Fred Warner, 778 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: you have Kwan Alexander and Dre green Law. And you 779 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: look at the way that the NFL is playing these days. 780 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: Last season, the forty Niners were in their nickel package 781 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: of the time. So nickel pa pitge means that you're 782 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: taking your third linebacker off the field and you're putting 783 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: Kawan Williams, who is a very high performer, onto the field. 784 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: So when the forty Niners only only need two linebackers 785 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: for the snaps, that automatically alleviates much of the crunch. 786 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: And we actually saw that last season. Right when Pawn 787 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: Alexander went down with a torn pectoral muscle, Jake Greenlaw 788 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: stepped right up from the third linebacker spot to the 789 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: second linebacker spot and made the biggest play of the 790 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: year for the forty Niners in Seattle. So it's it's 791 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: a matter of depth a linebacker, and I think the 792 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: forty Niners really haven't because they have those three starting 793 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: caliber guys but even if you have to go beyond that, 794 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: say that you have another injury and Fred Warner is out. 795 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: I think that's where as these al Shire comes in. 796 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: And I think that we saw that when you started 797 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: running with the first team there towards the end of 798 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: training camp. This is a player who the forty Niners obviously, uh, 799 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: we're able to I think, you know, just an under 800 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: the radar gem, you know, hidden gem kind of signing 801 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: uh the last season, really fast tackle machine in college 802 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: playing down there in Florida. And he he's coming along 803 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners based on what I've seen in 804 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: practice so far this season. So, like you said, they 805 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: have bodies there. Demetrius Planting and Fells is another Aziz 806 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: al Shay your type player you know, as far as 807 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: under the radar, undrafted, coming out of nowhere all of 808 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, making the fifty three man roster. So you 809 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: have to like the fact they got three starting caliber 810 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: guys and then potentially more in the pipeline beyond that. 811 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: That is a very healthy looking position group for the 812 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: forty Niners. And again the key is those guys can 813 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: all cover. You can't say the same about a lot 814 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: of teams in the NFL, especially within the forty Nighters division. 815 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: Seattle great linebackers five years ago, but those guys struggle 816 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: to cover and Shanahan exposed them for it last year. 817 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't see the forty Nighters getting exposed in coverage 818 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: on the second level with who they have a linebacker. 819 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 1: I want to jump to the forty Niners defensive backfield 820 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: and we're going to kick it off with cornerback. You 821 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: were just talking about nickel package. Well, Kaywan Williams and 822 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: that mix Richard Sherman and Kello Witherspoon, Jason Varette and 823 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Moseley, same group returning from last year. Mike Turner 824 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: from Canada wants to know how do you expect the 825 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: defensive backfield to take shape? And I'm in particular gonna 826 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: point at this right quarterback spot. Who starts opposite Richard Sherman. Well, 827 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: it sounds like Emmanuel Moseley will have that lockdown. He 828 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: might have had a lockdown before this, but I don't know. 829 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: To me, it seems the battle seemed a lot closer 830 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: than some people are letting on between Moseley and Jason 831 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: Varette for the spot opposite Richard Sherman that Jason Varette 832 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: as a minor hamstring train right now wasn't enough to 833 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: keep him off of the initial fifty three man roster. 834 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: But what I think it will be is I think 835 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: it will be enough to keep him out of that 836 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: starting job at least at the beginning of the season 837 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 1: right cornerback. Beyond that, I also think that Jason Varette 838 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: is more versatile than a guy like Emmanuel Moseley. And 839 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: I think that Jason Varette can easily slide over to 840 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: the slot and be the Forda Niners slot corner in 841 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: case Kawan Williams and his cap strain lingers, or in 842 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: case the forty Niners need a dime back matched up 843 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: one on one against the speedy slot type wide receiver. 844 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: And look what's happening Week one. Arizona is going to 845 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: come in with about one million wide receivers on their 846 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: roster with Cliff Kingsbury and his offense and Kyler Murray 847 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: throwing to them. I mean, it's gonna be a college 848 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: style big twelve offensive CODA owners have to face Week one. 849 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: It do not be surprised as a boarding Niners counter 850 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: by putting a ton of cornerbacks on the field. It's 851 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: not just gonna be about Sherman and whoever plays right cornerback, 852 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: probably Emmanuel Moseley. It's going to be about your auxiliary 853 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: depth at corner and that's gonna mean bringing Kawan Williams 854 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: out onto the field to cover somebody in the slot, 855 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: and that second slot needs to be covered. I think 856 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: Jason Barrett is probably that guy for the forty Niners. So, um, 857 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, football is changing now. You know, it's obviously 858 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: not been three yards in the cloud of dust for 859 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: several years, but now the college game, especially with a 860 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: guy like Cliff Kingsbury, is moving into the NFL as 861 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: far as scheme goes, and that means that you're gonna 862 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: need a lot of dbs to keep up. And I 863 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: think it's good that the forty Niners are deep in 864 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: the secondary for that very reason, and they'll be tested 865 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: in that regard. Right out of the gate week one 866 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: perfect segue, because I wanted to talk a little bit 867 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: more about Jason Varette. I want to know what have 868 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: been your impressions of him throughout camp. We know that 869 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: he was coming off of i R last season, how 870 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: din injury written career, hoping that he can look like 871 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: that Jason Varetta that we've all known in love, But 872 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: what have you seen out of him? Does he look 873 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: back on par to I'm not saying, but does he? How? Does? 874 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: How is he looking well? The recovery from an injury 875 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: always has a physical and a psychological component, and I 876 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 1: think that Jason Varette might have been passed the physical 877 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: component last season. I don't think he was there psychologically yet. 878 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: We obviously only saw him very briefly against Pittsburgh and 879 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: that did not go well when he came in for 880 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: a Kello Witherspoon in week three, So that's where Emmanuel 881 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,959 Speaker 1: Moseley was really able to take control of that job 882 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: at that point of the season. So I I think 883 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: that Verrette still needed a little bit more time to 884 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: get his you know, head on right post injury and 885 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: rediscover the attacking mentality that made him a pro bowler 886 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: in San Diego. And I saw him with that attacking 887 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: mentality during his training camp and mean several past breakups. 888 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: He was aggressive, he was physical, and again he's physical 889 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: without being the biggest guy. This is not your prototypical 890 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman s covered three corner who's six two six 891 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: three um shoving guys around to the line of scrimmage, 892 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, almost bringing safety size to that cornerback position. 893 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: This is a cornerback built from you know, the more 894 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: old school, smaller frame, but still brings when he's confident 895 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: and well, still brings that same physical dog mentality to 896 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: the cornerback position that this scheme needs. And I also 897 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: also think that he brings that same physical dog mentality 898 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: that is handy at a nickel back position, which is 899 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: why I mentioned that he would be versatile for that 900 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: as well, because a nickel you need a smaller guy 901 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: who's quick enough to keep up with the Trent tailors 902 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 1: in the world. Right. So I really have enjoyed watching 903 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: Jason the Varette play this training camp. I think that 904 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: you can see why he or how he made the 905 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl a few years back in his game uh. 906 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: And I think that if he stays healthy, and I 907 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: know it's a huge if with a guy like Jason Varette, 908 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, this is gonna be a guy 909 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: that can really contribute for the forty Niners this year. 910 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: This podcast is sponsored by Manscaped, the official below, the 911 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: waste grooming partner of the forty niners try manscaped and 912 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: get off and free shipping with code forty niners at 913 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners for off and 914 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: manscape dot com. Let's wrap this up on defense. What's safety? 915 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy war Jakowsky, Tar tar Various More, Marcel Harris, No, 916 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: there's no Jamal Adams. No, there's no Earl Tomas. Forty 917 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: niners appear happy with the guys that they have Tar 918 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: Various More looking to take strides. I mean, we've seen 919 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: him and what he's done so far through camp, But 920 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: what's been your impression of this group? You know, the 921 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: safety position for the forty niners is interesting because I 922 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people go out and trying to 923 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: knock them for a lack of interceptions last year when 924 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: they there's a couple of things that play. The forty 925 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: niners pass rush was so good last year that there 926 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: are actually fewer interception opportunities than you would expect. You 927 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: have to you look at the pass rushes are effective 928 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: and gradients, so a terrible pass rush and I'll be honest, 929 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: the forty owners. Any terrible pass rush, especially from the 930 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: edge in eighteen, gives the quarterback enough time to bake 931 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: the cake in the pocket, and he's not gonna throw 932 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: any interceptions, and the safeties are in the cornerbacks and 933 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: everybody's really hung out to dry, so you won't see 934 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: the turnover numbers. At the opposite end of the spectrum 935 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: is a completely overpowering paths rush, one that doesn't even 936 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: give a quarterback a chance to hey, throw the ball 937 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: or be make the catchable paths, even one that's catchable 938 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: for the defense. And the fort and Niners actually had 939 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: one of those. They went from one of the spectrum 940 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: to the other end of the spectrum, and that that 941 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily good for the safety statue. I mean, it's 942 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: obviously good for the team, but when people in this 943 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: fantasy football era world always trying to look at the 944 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: amount of interceptions the guy has, the four ends pass 945 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: rush were so overpowering last year that that there just 946 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,959 Speaker 1: weren't that many opportunities for Jakuski Tart and Jimmy Ward. 947 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: You almost have to have a slightly worse pass rush, 948 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: but one that's good enough to force the quarterback into 949 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: dumb decisions to rack up those those turnover numbers. So 950 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't read too much into, you know, some of 951 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: the criticism that's heart and and and Ward have gotten, 952 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: and that led to a lot of fans clamoring for 953 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams and Earl Thomas. I think the Ford and 954 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: understate that that they're especially on the Earl Thomas front, 955 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: I think they're better off with Jimmy Ward. Jamal Adams 956 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: is obviously a generational talent, so I mean, what team 957 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have a guy like that. But Jack 958 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: Bosky Tart is a really good player and comes at 959 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: a much better cost than Jamal Adams, and I think 960 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: he'll get his. As far as the turnovers go, it 961 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: just may not be as many as you'd expect, and 962 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: that's through no fault of his own. That's because the 963 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: forty Niners are straight up dominant along the front. And 964 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: as long as guys like Tart and and Ward play 965 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: within the scheme, do their jobs the complement that pass rush, 966 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: that is all the forty Niners can ask for, and 967 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: all they'll need is defense will remain very good as 968 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: long as they play within the scheme, and those turnovers 969 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: will come when they're supposed to come. I want to 970 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: go back to the last two position groups that we 971 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: talked about. Christopher Smith from New Orleans wants to know, 972 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,479 Speaker 1: do you think that the forty secondary is good enough 973 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: to get back to the super Bowl? Secondary is absolutely 974 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: good enough to get back to the super Bowl. It 975 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't really have holes last year. I mean, there's there's 976 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading too much into into some of these questions, 977 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: but I'm I am obviously always getting a pulse of 978 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: how people feel. And when I'm on you know, Twitter, 979 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: you always people start to say, oh, all the secondaries 980 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: this weak length because Patrick Mahomes came in with seven 981 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: minutes left and you know, threw into one busted coverage, 982 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: picked up forty five yards of Tyreek Hill and the secondary, 983 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't able to stop the Chiefs and 984 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 1: preserve the Super Bowl win. But to me, that's all 985 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: recency bias. Yeah, especially super Bowl is this great cultivator 986 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: of recency bias. I get it. If you don't get 987 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: it done in the Super Bowl, people are going to 988 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: be doubly or triple or quadruple e upset and it's 989 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: gonna you know, just feed that fire and it's gonna 990 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,479 Speaker 1: be It's gonna be a lot of disappointment. Everybody wants 991 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,959 Speaker 1: to point fingers throw blame, but you know, let's let's 992 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: put that into perspective. Let's look at the overall body 993 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,479 Speaker 1: of work, not just through the regular season, but also 994 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: through the playoffs to get to the forty niners to 995 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That was the number two secondary or 996 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: past defense. I guess I should say in all football, 997 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: behind only the New England Patriots. You look at all 998 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: the advanced numbers. You look at what Jakusti Tart gave 999 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: up in coverage, what Jimmy Wore gave up in coverage. 1000 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 1: You look at the All Pro season that Richard Sherman 1001 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: put together. You know, one bad play one, you know 1002 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: getting beaten once, as Richard Sherman did by Watkins, and 1003 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl does not negate in all Pro season. 1004 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: It does not mean that Richard Sherman needs to start 1005 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: thinking about moving to safety. I mean, I think it's 1006 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: just asinine to look at one snap when you have 1007 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: five other snaps to look at, and you know, just 1008 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 1: because that snap came most recently. So um, I don't 1009 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want me to offend the question 1010 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: or I don't want to read too far into the question. 1011 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,800 Speaker 1: But you have an entire season of ADDA that showed 1012 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: that the forty Niners secondary wasn't number two in all football, 1013 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: and you know, with guys still developing and progressing, has 1014 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: a good chance to be number one this season. So 1015 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: of course it's good enough to go back to the 1016 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You cannot look at the last seven minutes 1017 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: of one game, even if it was the Super Bowl 1018 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: and think that you know that is not true. It 1019 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't make any sense. So the forty 1020 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: Niners are good enough. A lot of what happens in 1021 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year, if they do make it 1022 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: back and play a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, to 1023 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: be honest, is going to be reliant on their offense. 1024 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: They can't start stalling in the fourth quarter again, because 1025 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: your best defense is very often a good offense, especially 1026 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: in this modern day NFL. The defense and the secondary 1027 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners is hands down good enough to 1028 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 1: get the job done. I think there are hands down 1029 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: good enough to get the job done. Last year, some 1030 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: things just didn't fall their way at the end of 1031 00:53:54,719 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 1: the season. David Lombardi at on Twitter at Lombardy himself, 1032 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. I appreciate your insight, your knowledge. 1033 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better guest to kind of 1034 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: break down this fifty three man roster than you, So 1035 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Any any party words you have 1036 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: for us. I think it's gonna be a great season 1037 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners and maybe weird hopefully we'll have 1038 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: some fans allowed by the end of the season, maybe 1039 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 1: even a Levi stadium and uh, you know, any sense 1040 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: of normalcy I think would be good for the forty 1041 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: Niners this year because this was a team that was 1042 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 1: might have been a year ahead of schedule last year. 1043 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: They they you know, are still on the upswing. You 1044 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: could still feel that roster maturing into a really dominant force. 1045 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: And for their sake and really just for everybody's sake, 1046 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: you want as fair of a fight as possible in 1047 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. You want every season to be determined without 1048 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: feeling there was an asterisk there because there were no fans, 1049 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: people didn't care as much, blah blah blah whatever. The 1050 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: forty Niners are on their ascendency right now there. You know, 1051 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: one could argue that they should be Super Bowl favorite 1052 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,760 Speaker 1: this year based on the roster based on the trajectory. 1053 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: So you just want to see a normal season go 1054 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: off to see if they actually, you know, deserve that 1055 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: preseason heights, to see if you know this is what 1056 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 1: the team is actually about. You don't want outside factors 1057 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: to go in, especially on precedent, outside factors to go 1058 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: in and mess that up. So I think what we 1059 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: all just need to cross our fingers and and and 1060 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: hope that the situation and the policies and and all 1061 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: this and all that are conducive to a season that's 1062 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: well played and allows the Floridaanders to show us what 1063 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: they've really got. Because we have spent months talking about 1064 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: this and now it's finally time to see it. And 1065 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm really really curious, and I'm very uh, I'll be 1066 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: very engaged because I have speculated about this for too long. 1067 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: I just need to see this team take the field 1068 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: and place in football. I feel like the fans are 1069 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: very excited to hear that. They have the exact same feeling, 1070 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: the exact same sentiment. My colleague David Lombardi, you can 1071 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: find him again at Twitter at Barty himself with the 1072 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: athletic We appreciate your time David will have to have 1073 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: you again some time this season, and we'll have to 1074 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: do something like this again, chat a little bit about 1075 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: what's going on anytime. You know. I love doing it. 1076 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: Thanks David, have a good week. Thank you.