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Speaker 4: lot more on this episode, just in What's Weird in
Speaker 4: America's Most Expensive City? What's Weird in America's Most Expensive City?
Speaker 4: For quite a while, I've been wanting to take an
Speaker 4: action packed trip to explore an area to which, believe
Speaker 4: it or not, I have never been, even though I
Speaker 4: can fly there from Las Vegas, where I live, in
Speaker 4: less than an hour, and as I record this, it
Speaker 4: just so happens to also be the most expensive city
Speaker 4: in the entire United States of America. Want to take
Speaker 4: a guess what city it is? Think about it. I'll
Speaker 4: give you a second. Okay, here's the answer. It is
Speaker 4: San Diego, California. Yes, more expensive than Los Angeles or
Speaker 4: New York, or Honolulu or Miami. I talked to a
Speaker 4: bartender there who said she and her husband and two kids.
Speaker 4: They rent a small house about eighteen hundred square feet
Speaker 4: with just two or three bedrooms, and the rent alone
Speaker 4: is over three nine hundred dollars per month.
Speaker 2: That's rent alone.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons it's so popular is because year round,
Speaker 4: the temperature there is great. The weather is great, like
Speaker 4: it has a low of about forty nine degrees fahrenheit
Speaker 4: and a high of seventy seven fahrenheit.
Speaker 2: That's year round.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, and while we were there in mid May
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, it was cool enough to wear
Speaker 4: a jacket every night. And it also happens to be
Speaker 4: the oldest European settlement on the entire West Coast, and
Speaker 4: so the history there is astounding. I'll get back to
Speaker 4: that later, of course.
Speaker 2: But okay, so.
Speaker 4: Why did I go? Why did I want to take
Speaker 4: this trip? Well, there are a number of reasons. But
Speaker 4: for one thing you may remember about, well, this famous
Speaker 4: tic tac Ufo slash UAP siding by Navy pilots that
Speaker 4: happened in two thousand and four. Here's one version of
Speaker 4: what happened.
Speaker 2: By let's see.
Speaker 4: Alisa Chasin at cbsnews dot com talking about these house
Speaker 4: hearings with lawmakers and says it Retired Navy commander David
Speaker 4: Fraverr was commander of the FA eighteen F Squadron of
Speaker 4: the USS Nimets that's a ship, of course, when he
Speaker 4: says he spotted the object during the flight off the
Speaker 4: coast of southern California on November fourteenth, two thousand and four.
Speaker 4: In a twenty twenty one interview with sixty Minutes, Fraverr,
Speaker 4: a graduate of the top Gun Naval Flight School, spoke
Speaker 4: about what he saw. He and another lieutenant commander there
Speaker 4: were training with the Nimtz Carrier Strike Group just southwest
Speaker 4: of San Diego, and favor told sixty Minutes. At the
Speaker 4: time advanced radar on a ship that was a part
Speaker 4: of their training group detected what operators called multiple a
Speaker 4: novelist aerial vehicles over the ocean, descending eighty thousand feet
Speaker 4: and less than a second. All right, so surely you
Speaker 4: know that story by now. And so that whole area
Speaker 4: of the coastline there has been a UFO slash UAP
Speaker 4: hotspot for at least twenty years. And we are talking
Speaker 4: about the entire area around Catalina Island and Dana Point
Speaker 4: and Laguna Beach.
Speaker 2: I mean that whole part of.
Speaker 4: The Pacific Ocean, and these things go in and out
Speaker 4: of the ocean, and so I've been wanting to go
Speaker 4: there and talk to the locals in person about what
Speaker 4: they've been seeing and where I need to set up
Speaker 4: the next time I come into town with some new
Speaker 4: high speed camera gear that I'm going to be obtaining.
Speaker 4: And so I took a lot of notes during the trip.
Speaker 4: I usually do that when I take a trip, so
Speaker 4: I can come back and tell you some stories. So
Speaker 4: throughout this show, I'm going to tell you about some
Speaker 4: of the interesting places that Lauren and I visit, did
Speaker 4: things that we bought, and then, of course my ultimate
Speaker 4: conclusion so far about the UFO activity around there, But
Speaker 4: you got to realize that this also has some of
Speaker 4: the most haunted places in the United States, including a
Speaker 4: house known as America's most Haunted House. I visited there,
Speaker 4: I'll tell you about that, and one of the most
Speaker 4: famous haunted resorts, the Hotel del Coronado. All right, I
Speaker 4: have a lot of information in front of me, and
Speaker 4: I know I'm going to run out of time, so
Speaker 4: let's get straight into this. We flew there, we got
Speaker 4: checked into a really nice hotel right there on the water.
Speaker 4: It was near a place called the Seaport Village, and
Speaker 4: it's exactly what you can imagine. It's a little area
Speaker 4: right there on the coast. It's kind of like a
Speaker 4: little boardwalk area, and it has all the little gift
Speaker 4: shops and seafood restaurants, and I just love walking around
Speaker 4: these little places that reminds you of being in Popeyes Town.
Speaker 4: But one thing that was especially interesting was as soon
Speaker 4: as Lauren and I walked into the Seaport Village, there
Speaker 4: was this very elaborate carousel there. Turned out this thing
Speaker 4: had been hand carved in eighteen ninety five and it's
Speaker 4: still perfectly operable. We got to ride this carousel, this
Speaker 4: merry go Round on top of these big you know
Speaker 4: there was I guess there were wooden horses. Of course,
Speaker 4: this thing had been restored over time, but that was
Speaker 4: astounding to spend five minutes just riding a carousel that
Speaker 4: had been built in eighteen ninety five. So, of course
Speaker 4: the first stuff I wanted to tick off my list.
Speaker 4: I got some delicious crab cakes right there on the water.
Speaker 4: We walked down that boardwalk area until we got to
Speaker 4: a huge ship there, the USS Midway, which is now
Speaker 4: a museum. It's a very famous area in San Diego
Speaker 4: because you may remember seeing this photograph from World War Two.
Speaker 4: It's at the end of the war when everybody's celebrating
Speaker 4: and there's a sailor who is kissing this girl in
Speaker 4: New York City. And this famous photograph has been turned
Speaker 4: into a twenty five foot tall statue that stands right
Speaker 4: there in this area next to the Midway. They have
Speaker 4: all kinds of really interesting memorials and monuments there. One
Speaker 4: that particularly struck me was one of Bob Hope, the
Speaker 4: comedian who had entertained the troops. It's a life size
Speaker 4: statue of Bob Hope, and he's standing there with this
Speaker 4: group of life size sailor statues all around him, and
Speaker 4: as he's standing there and addressing them, they actually have
Speaker 4: real audio from some of his stand up comedy playing
Speaker 4: and they're laughing and clapping, and I mean, I swear
Speaker 4: it was like being transported back in time. If you're
Speaker 4: interested in history and you're ever near that area of
Speaker 4: San Diego, you gotta go check that out. It's right
Speaker 4: now by the fish market and everything. So we hit
Speaker 4: up some of the local shops. I bought some camel jerky.
Speaker 4: Have you ever had camel jerky? I'm a sucker for jerky,
Speaker 4: you know. I started out eating beef jerky. Now I
Speaker 4: eat a lot of turkey jerky and stuff like that
Speaker 4: because it's leaner camel jerky.
Speaker 2: This is some of the.
Speaker 4: Best jerky I've ever had in my entire life, literally
Speaker 4: made out of a camel. I know some of you
Speaker 4: will despise me for eating a camel, but it's very
Speaker 4: lean and it's only got one and a half grams
Speaker 4: of fat. It's by a brand called cow Crack cow
Speaker 4: Crack Gourmet Jerky. I would eat this every day. That's
Speaker 4: neither here nor there. But if you're a jerky person,
Speaker 4: check out the Camel Jerky. So look, we had a
Speaker 4: great evening, found some little speakeasyes, some teeky places to
Speaker 4: chill out, and in the next day we went up a.
Speaker 4: We headed to La Joya Cove, which looks like a
Speaker 4: movie set. This is an area where these giant cliffs
Speaker 4: are right next to the water. The ocean is splashing
Speaker 4: up on the cliffs and everywhere, I mean everywhere are
Speaker 4: just tons of sea lions and seagulls and pelicans, all
Speaker 4: this wild life. La Joya apparently means the Jewel by
Speaker 4: the way, and so it was just like you know,
Speaker 4: it was the most one of the most scenic places
Speaker 4: I've ever been to in my entire life. And of course,
Speaker 4: as we were sort of exploring and walking up and
Speaker 4: down these cliffs, it became apparent that there are some
Speaker 4: pretty significant caves around La Joya Cove. And these caves
Speaker 4: were well, some of them are natural, but many of
Speaker 4: them were man made because apparently, back during the Depression
Speaker 4: the Prohibition, bootleggers would use these caves to smuggle all
Speaker 4: kinds of liquor up from the ocean to the surface.
Speaker 4: And distribute it around California. And these caves are really
Speaker 4: really haunted. I actually went down myself. I didn't have
Speaker 4: the best dress for it because the rocks were very slippery,
Speaker 4: but I actually went into one of the caves and
Speaker 4: we took some pictures. You know what, I got to
Speaker 4: take a break when we come back. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 4: to get into the spooky stuff when we return, about
Speaker 4: America's most haunted house and the Hotel Delcornado and some
Speaker 4: of the things that were happening as we were exploring
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Speaker 2: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird Joshua P.
Speaker 4: Warren beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio in
Speaker 4: Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden
Speaker 4: and every night is silver.
Speaker 2: Gitato Zume and I, you know what, I.
Speaker 4: Hope I don't sound too tired, because I'm still worn
Speaker 4: out from the strip I just got back. I still
Speaker 4: have a lot of fo to analyze. And by the way,
Speaker 4: by the time you hear this recording, it is possible
Speaker 4: that the new Instagram page will be up for this
Speaker 4: website and something I've wanted to get out there for
Speaker 4: a long time. I'm not that active personally on Instagram,
Speaker 4: but my wife Lauren is, and she has been saying about,
Speaker 4: you know, it'd be nice to have she'd been talking
Speaker 4: about how nice it would be to have a place
Speaker 4: where she could upload pictures of some of the things
Speaker 4: that I talk about on the show.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 4: If it's there already, you might be able to go
Speaker 4: and see some pictures related to this vacation, to this trip,
Speaker 4: to this exploration. If not, you'll be able to see
Speaker 4: it soon. Just go to Instagram and it's just called
Speaker 4: Joshua Pee Warren Podcast. That's Instagram dot com, slash Joshua
Speaker 4: Pee Warren podcast and then regardless of how much is
Speaker 4: posted there, go ahead and you know, follow it or whatever,
Speaker 4: and then that way you'll be able to see visuals
Speaker 4: from some of the things I talk about on the show.
Speaker 4: So thanks to Lauren for working on that project. And
Speaker 4: I know that'll add a new dimension to some of
Speaker 4: the things I discuss. So all right, back to the trip.
Speaker 4: So yeah, here I am. I'm crawling around these slippery
Speaker 4: rocks and one of these old like bootlegger caves. And
Speaker 4: then after that we drove to the little town of
Speaker 4: La Jolla, went into this antique store where all the cells.
Speaker 2: Went to this dog charity, and.
Speaker 4: Of course Lauren and I are a sucker for that,
Speaker 4: so we said we got to buy something, and right
Speaker 4: off the bat, Lauren found this. It looks like a
Speaker 4: figurehead from the front of a ship. You know how
Speaker 4: a lot of times they carved something like an angelic
Speaker 4: woman at the head of a of an old ship.
Speaker 4: It's a miniature version of that, but it seems to
Speaker 4: work very well for some of the de corps that
Speaker 4: we have that we are gradually installing in our new house.
Speaker 4: So we bought that. There had a nice day, and
Speaker 4: then we went to finally explore what they call Old
Speaker 4: Town San Diego. And as I mentioned to you, San Diego,
Speaker 4: it's the oldest town European town on the west coast.
Speaker 4: Let's see, Old Town contains two hundred and thirty acres
Speaker 4: and is bounded by Interstate eight on the north and
Speaker 4: five on the west. Okay, it is the oldest settled
Speaker 4: area in San Diego and the site of the first
Speaker 4: European settlement contains the Old Town San Diego State Historic Park,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And this was especially intriguing. One of the
Speaker 4: things that you have to remember when it comes to
Speaker 4: like this part of California. A lot of times you
Speaker 4: hear about places that are named after Balboa. This guy Balboa,
Speaker 4: like Balboa Beach or Balboa Park, and there's Balboa pops
Speaker 4: up a lot, and the reason is that Balboa is
Speaker 4: this He was this Spanish conquistador basically who what he discovered, Well,
Speaker 4: he was the first European sort of discover that area.
Speaker 4: I'll talk a little bit more about him later because
Speaker 4: I see in my notes here I have this section
Speaker 4: where we go to Balboa Park, so I'll save that
Speaker 4: for later. But anyway, so people started settling, you know,
Speaker 4: Europeans in Old Town San Diego, and of course, of
Speaker 4: course there were Native Americans there first, but people from
Speaker 4: Europe settling there apparently in like the fifteen hundreds. And
Speaker 4: what's one thing that's really interesting about it is when
Speaker 4: you go walking through there nowadays, there are some areas
Speaker 4: where you'll be walking down a street and you will
Speaker 4: see on the sidewalk or even in the middle of
Speaker 4: the street a little marker looks like a coin, and
Speaker 4: it's a graveside marker. Because over time, when they were
Speaker 4: building up Old Town San Diego, they would actually start
Speaker 4: building over parts of the old cemeteries, and so whenever
Speaker 4: they could, they would acknowledge that, well, there is a
Speaker 4: grave right here, and you could be sitting in a
Speaker 4: restaurant and have, you know, graves right underneath you. And
Speaker 4: we went to this fantastic restaurant and had wonderful fahitas there.
Speaker 4: It was called the Barra Barra Saloon.
Speaker 2: And then right after that we knew we had to
Speaker 2: go to.
Speaker 4: This place known as America's most haunted house. Seriously, it
Speaker 4: says that on their sign it's called the Whaley House.
Speaker 2: WHA. L. E. Y. And it was built by a.
Speaker 4: Man named Thomas Whaley. He was a businessman in the
Speaker 4: area and he started construction on the house in eighteen
Speaker 4: fifty six, and at this time, in eighteen fifty six,
Speaker 4: it was like the finest house in all of California.
Speaker 4: And one thing that is especially intriguing about the Whaley
Speaker 4: House is that before he built that house there it
Speaker 4: was used as the site for executions in the area.
Speaker 4: And in fact, one of the most famous people executed
Speaker 4: there was a guy named Yankee Jim who was He
Speaker 4: was hanged because he had stolen a boat apparently, and
Speaker 4: for one understand like some of the people he supposedly
Speaker 4: stole the boat from were on the jury. He was
Speaker 4: a big guy and he didn't hang very easily. They
Speaker 4: basically choked him to death. And a lot of people say,
Speaker 4: of all the ghosts that haunt that house today, it's
Speaker 4: the ghost of Yankee Jim. He was not very happy
Speaker 4: about at being executed in that way. But you know,
Speaker 4: Thomas Swalee, after he built this house, he had a
Speaker 4: lot of tragedy also in his life. I mean, he
Speaker 4: had a daughter named Violet, and when she was twenty
Speaker 4: two years old, she shot herself killed herself with his
Speaker 4: thirty two caliber gun there. That was in eighteen eighty five.
Speaker 4: She killed herself over a man. She left a note said,
Speaker 4: mad from life's history, swift to death's mystery, Glad to
Speaker 4: be hurled anywhere anywhere out of this world.
Speaker 2: Old.
Speaker 4: Well, there are a lot of deaths attached to the
Speaker 4: Whaley House. And you know, it opened up as a
Speaker 4: museum in the nineteen sixties, but everybody in the area
Speaker 4: knew that it had been haunted. I mean, even supposedly.
Speaker 4: Thomas Whaley himself, shortly after moving into the house, claimed
Speaker 4: that he had heard footsteps and seen dark forms moving around,
Speaker 4: and he believed that it was most likely the ghost
Speaker 4: of this guy named Yankee Jim So And they even
Speaker 4: they were talking to the newspaper.
Speaker 2: About this, the Whaley family.
Speaker 4: And when you go to this house, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: kind of a it's not a large piece of property,
Speaker 4: but it's kind of sprawling. It's got a number of
Speaker 4: little outbuildings on it, and you know, it's like, I
Speaker 4: guess it's a two story house.
Speaker 2: It kind of looks like a typical old house of
Speaker 2: the day. And you know, the funny thing is.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, one of the reasons it's so famous is
Speaker 4: because that Regis Philbin. And surely remember Regis Philbin. He
Speaker 4: died just a few years ago. Regis Philbin, he was
Speaker 4: a host of many shows, including of Course, Who Wants
Speaker 4: to Be a Millionaire? But he got part of his
Speaker 4: start in TV hosting there in San Diego. He had
Speaker 4: a morning show in San Diego, and in nineteen sixty four,
Speaker 4: I guess he was doing a segment for his show,
Speaker 4: and Regis Philbin said on a number of times on
Speaker 4: camera that one like one night, in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night, he and one of his producer guys, they
Speaker 4: got to visit the Whaley House and stay there for hours,
Speaker 4: and at one point there in this sitting room, and
Speaker 4: Regis Philbin says that he and the other guy, who
Speaker 4: has had like a military background, turned and here was
Speaker 4: this white, misty form that had formed right there, hovering
Speaker 4: around the entrance to the living area. And Philbin is shocked,
Speaker 4: he's never seen anything like this. His producer military guy,
Speaker 4: for whatever reason jumps down and starts creeping up to it,
Speaker 4: like crawling up to it like he's gonna try to
Speaker 4: grab it or something. And Philbin says that stupidly that
Speaker 4: right before the guy got to it, he wanted a
Speaker 4: better look, and so Philbin said that he turned a
Speaker 4: flashlight on and as soon as he did that, this misty.
Speaker 2: Form just shot away. It disappeared, But Regis.
Speaker 4: Philbin was so convinced that he'd seen a ghost that
Speaker 4: for the rest of his life he talked about it,
Speaker 4: and even as an old guy, because he was in
Speaker 4: his thirties when then it happened. Even as an older guy,
Speaker 4: you know, he went back to that and did like
Speaker 4: some TV specials about it and talked about what he'd seen.
Speaker 4: So while we were there, what they do is they
Speaker 4: have guides to kind of take you around and they
Speaker 4: tell you stories and then they kind of let you
Speaker 4: loose and let you explore a little bit. The first
Speaker 4: guy we had was a man, and he said that
Speaker 4: he had definitely heard the loud footsteps running up and
Speaker 4: down on the second floor. They have a theater there,
Speaker 4: which is really amazing because they have a Pepper's ghost
Speaker 4: illusion set up, which is where you sort of project
Speaker 4: apparitional figures on maybe a piece of thin fabric or
Speaker 4: something similar. And you see this around Halloween a lot.
Speaker 4: And there was this woman who was sitting there in
Speaker 4: period garub and she was a guide who was there
Speaker 4: just to answer questions. And she told this story about
Speaker 4: how that when she was there with just one other guide,
Speaker 4: they were the only people on the property. And she
Speaker 4: said that they looked up and they saw, Well, you
Speaker 4: know what, we got to take a break. When we
Speaker 4: come back. I'm going to tell you what they saw.
Speaker 4: And then she said something that I thought was a
Speaker 4: really good quote I'm going to share with you. And
Speaker 4: then well, we traveled. We jumped to the car and
Speaker 4: we drove to Cornatto Islands, where I decided to take
Speaker 4: out a little bit of gear and investigate the haunted hotel.
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Speaker 4: Warren, And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Whaley House, it's been on all the TV Ghost Adventures,
Speaker 4: America's most haunted. And so this woman, the guide, who
Speaker 4: was upstairs next to the theater. She said that she
Speaker 4: and this other employee were the only ones there on
Speaker 4: the whole property, and they heard something moving around upstairs.
Speaker 4: They looked up and they saw this dark figure of
Speaker 4: a tall man standing there and they said who's there
Speaker 4: or something like that or hello, and the figure just
Speaker 4: turned and walked away. And they were supposed to secure
Speaker 4: the property, so they went upstairs and looked around, and
Speaker 4: she said that there was nobody there and it freaked
Speaker 4: him out. And she said that when people ask her
Speaker 4: though if she gets scared, she gave me this great quote.
Speaker 4: She says, well, when you're here by yourself, she said,
Speaker 4: it's like when your house sitting for someone. It feels comfy,
Speaker 4: but it's still their house. You feel their energy. I
Speaker 4: think that applies to a lot of haunted places. So look,
Speaker 4: my footage from there is still being analyzed, but you know,
Speaker 4: here are my feelings. I didn't feel anything particularly negative
Speaker 4: or scary about the place. Some haunted places feel very
Speaker 4: very heavy, and it didn't feel that heavy to me
Speaker 4: for some reason. So America's most haunted house. I guess
Speaker 4: maybe I'd need to spend a night there to figure
Speaker 4: that one out. So I had a great time though
Speaker 4: at Old Town. Before we left, we went to this
Speaker 4: place called the Mexican Market, and I bought some Mexican
Speaker 4: jumping beans.
Speaker 2: I hadn't had those since.
Speaker 4: I was a kid. Those are so fascinating. You know,
Speaker 4: you can only get them certain times a year. They
Speaker 4: come from this one little area of Mexico, and they
Speaker 4: are actually seed pods. And if you've never seen one
Speaker 4: of these before, it's like a little plastic case with
Speaker 4: the clear top, and there's maybe five or six of
Speaker 4: these things that look like little brown beads, but they
Speaker 4: just randomly sort of jump around and make them little
Speaker 4: click clack sounds. And it turns out that there are
Speaker 4: little worms in there. They're a larvae of a small
Speaker 4: moth and they are in there. I think up to
Speaker 4: like ten months just chewing away and eating and living
Speaker 4: inside of this thing and developing. But they are very
Speaker 4: sensitive to temperature. So if they're in a place where
Speaker 4: it's kind of cool and they like the temperature and
Speaker 4: it's kind of dark, they don't move around. But if
Speaker 4: you put them in the sun, maybe not direct sun
Speaker 4: you don't want to kill them, or just like hold
Speaker 4: them in your hand and warm them up, they'll start
Speaker 4: bouncing around and jumping. And you know what, I have
Speaker 4: never I don't know what happens. I guess when I
Speaker 4: was a kid, they would stop jumping and I would say, like,
Speaker 4: I guess they're dead and throw them away. But I
Speaker 4: am going to keep my jumping beans in a special
Speaker 4: container and see if I can hatch the moths out
Speaker 4: of them. And so so that'll be an interesting image
Speaker 4: for my Instagram. So look, next we drive across this
Speaker 4: bridge and we go to Coronado Island where there is
Speaker 4: a military base. A lot of military activity around around
Speaker 4: us throughout this whole trip, and that is where you
Speaker 4: find the Hotel del Coronado. Now, the Hotel del Coronado
Speaker 4: is it's historic building that was it opened in eighteen
Speaker 4: eighty eight, as the largest resort hotel in the world.
Speaker 4: It's still the second largest wooden structure in the United States,
Speaker 4: if not the world. I can't remember for Sirah, for sure.
Speaker 4: I've got too many things I've been researching.
Speaker 2: But it's big.
Speaker 4: It's a big, sprawling, impressive Victorian property with a big
Speaker 4: cone shaped like main entrance. It's mainly white with kind
Speaker 4: of like burgundy tiling on top, and I mean it's
Speaker 4: very impressive, and it's right on the water, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's like that's the place where all the celebrities would go.
Speaker 4: I think Marilyn Monroe filmed a movie there. But I
Speaker 4: especially wanted to go there because I'd heard for many,
Speaker 4: many years about its famous ghost, and that is the
Speaker 4: ghost of Kate Morgan. And this is an absolutely true story.
Speaker 4: Kate Morgan was born in eighteen sixty four and her
Speaker 4: life is kind of mysterious. She had I think various
Speaker 4: man troubles. She was like bouncing around from place to place,
Speaker 4: chasing love. And in November of eighteen ninety two, she
Speaker 4: showed up by herself to the Hotel Del Cornado and
Speaker 4: she was dressed in black okay, black hat, black dress,
Speaker 4: and the people there this daf said that she seemed
Speaker 4: very ladylike, beautiful, reserved and well dressed, but troubled and
Speaker 4: very melancholy. That's a quote she kept to herself. A
Speaker 4: lot of people just referred to her as the Beautiful Stranger.
Speaker 4: And after she had stayed there for about five days,
Speaker 4: she walked outside on some steps heading to the beach.
Speaker 4: She took out a gun and she shot herself in
Speaker 4: the head apparently, and killed herself. And well, the funny
Speaker 4: thing is that some people said that they thought there
Speaker 4: was foul play. Most people said that they thought it
Speaker 4: was suicide. Nobody knows for sure. But she was staying
Speaker 4: in room three to two at that time. And actually
Speaker 4: I was in the gift shop. They sew all kinds
Speaker 4: of Kate Morgan stuff, and I even bought a little
Speaker 4: key chain that says room three h two on it,
Speaker 4: but they've changed that now to Room three three two seven.
Speaker 4: All these years since the incident, people have seen this
Speaker 4: woman in black with a big black hat and black
Speaker 4: dress floating around the hotel. Of course, in Ashwood, North Carolina,
Speaker 4: at the Grove Park End, they have the Pink Lady. Well,
Speaker 4: here they have the Beautiful Stranger in black, and she
Speaker 4: does everything that melancholy ghosts usually do. She sometimes she
Speaker 4: shows up in your room at night. She might might
Speaker 4: tickle your feet. Sometimes she will just glide down the hallway.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just see her sitting by herself around her room,
Speaker 4: and then she vanishes. There was one historian who said
Speaker 4: that there were a couple of people who checked into
Speaker 4: one of the rooms they are known to be haunted,
Speaker 4: and then they just vanished. They were never seen again.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: Somebody got footage of a window opening by itself. I mean,
Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff happens there at the Hotel
Speaker 4: del Coronado. There are a lot of ghosts, but the
Speaker 4: ghost of Kate Morgan is the most famous one. When
Speaker 4: you go in the gift shop, they have a life
Speaker 4: size like mannequin of her there with books and refrigerator
Speaker 4: magnets and things like that. And when we were there,
Speaker 4: I talked to this one bartender and he'd been working
Speaker 4: there for I think twenty years, and I asked him
Speaker 4: if he'd ever seen anything, and he goes, well, of course,
Speaker 4: he's working at this big historic bar.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 4: I was here with another bartender one night a few
Speaker 4: years ago, and he says, we heard this pop, like
Speaker 4: the pop of a cork from a champagne bottle, right
Speaker 4: behind us. He says, it scared us because we weren't
Speaker 4: expecting it, and we both turned right as we turned,
Speaker 4: we saw a dark object fall from the ceiling that
Speaker 4: looked like a cork, but then it was gone, and
Speaker 4: so that he said, there was no way that either
Speaker 4: of them could explain that, and I decided to go
Speaker 4: ghost hunting there. I brought some of my meters and
Speaker 4: I filmed myself ghost hunting.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to go to room three three two
Speaker 4: seven because it turns out the place is being remodeled,
Speaker 4: extensively remodeled, And I was able to go walk down
Speaker 4: the steps toward the beach where she killed herself and
Speaker 4: all that, and I got a lot of bizarre electromagnetic
Speaker 4: and electrostatic fields that would just suddenly pop out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: But just like with the Whaley House, I have footage
Speaker 4: that needs to be analyzed and examined. So I didn't
Speaker 4: see a ghost at either one of these places. But
Speaker 4: I definitely feel like the Hotel del Coronado is haunted.
Speaker 4: It's got that that heaviness that I didn't actually feel
Speaker 4: at the Whaley House. So if you're ever in San Diego,
Speaker 4: look up the Hotel del Coronado. It's probably not cheap
Speaker 4: to stay there, but it's worth visiting and having a
Speaker 4: drink at the bar and walking down to the beach.
Speaker 4: So of course in San Diego, we had to go
Speaker 4: to the famous San Diego Zoo. It is the most
Speaker 4: visited zoo in all of America. I think something like
Speaker 4: twelve million people visit it every year. You've probably seen
Speaker 4: it all over TV. Got up one morning, went there
Speaker 4: and it was the weather was actually kind of cloudy
Speaker 4: and cool, and so all the animals were out. We
Speaker 4: took a free bus tour for about thirty minutes. That
Speaker 4: was the first thing we did. And then later on
Speaker 4: they have this little ride you can take called like
Speaker 4: a sky a Safari. It's like a gondola that takes
Speaker 4: you up. I thought that was kind of scary personally
Speaker 4: if you're a little if you don't like heights that much.
Speaker 4: But you know, here's the thing. When we went to
Speaker 4: the zoo, the animals were more active than usual and
Speaker 4: we saw i mean huge gorillas. I've never seen gorilla
Speaker 4: so active and running around right up to the glass,
Speaker 4: orangutans rolling around and playing, and there was a kamodo dragon,
Speaker 4: lots of monkeys that they had a bear there they said,
Speaker 4: called a sloth bear, and it turns out that's what
Speaker 4: that's what Ballou was in the jungle book. And all
Speaker 4: the guides were talking about how that they only use
Speaker 4: positive reinforcement with the animals, and they raise a lot
Speaker 4: of money to save animals and help animals.
Speaker 2: But look, Lauren and.
Speaker 4: I had a good time. The zoo was not as
Speaker 4: elaborate as I was expecting. Some of the enclosures were
Speaker 4: smaller than I was expecting. But personally, I kind of
Speaker 4: have a problem with zoos because I don't feel like
Speaker 4: that animals are usually happy in a zoo, especially something
Speaker 4: like a polar bear or a gorilla that just certainly
Speaker 4: don't belong in that type of setting.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think that maybe there was a time when people
Speaker 4: didn't get to see animals back of the day, where
Speaker 4: you know, having an animal you could go see in
Speaker 4: person might have been a necessary part of life. But
Speaker 4: now I kind of think only scientists, you know, vets
Speaker 4: and biologists and things should maybe.
Speaker 2: Have access to zoos. It just kind of makes me
Speaker 2: sad to go to zoos. So, you know, we saw
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of.
Speaker 4: Zoos, and I think that that's probably going to be
Speaker 4: my last one. My gosh, the clock has almost got us.
Speaker 4: When we come back, I haven't even gotten to the
Speaker 4: UFO stuff yet. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to
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Speaker 4: Hi, this is ufologist Kevin Randall, and you're listening to
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
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Speaker 4: podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua pe Warren. So
Speaker 4: we went to Balboa Park. I mentioned this place earlier.
Speaker 4: There was some kind of an expo there similar to
Speaker 4: a World's Fair in nineteen fifteen, and so they built
Speaker 4: like all these glorious buildings, facades, like one of them
Speaker 4: was used in I think Citizen Kane. This is you know,
Speaker 4: it's a twelve hundred acre park. And they have all
Speaker 4: these museums there, like whether there's one that has mummies.
Speaker 4: They have the Comic Con Museum, even though it was
Speaker 4: closed that day, all kinds of restaurants and shops. But yeah,
Speaker 4: this gets it's named after Vasco Nuna's Deve Balboa, who
Speaker 4: was born in fourteen seventy five. He was a conquistador
Speaker 4: who supposedly was the first person to see the Pacific
Speaker 4: Ocean from Europe and came back in this kind of
Speaker 4: credited as like a kind of discoverer of the New World.
Speaker 4: And it turns out though he had a pretty dramatic
Speaker 4: life otherwise, and he was only about forty three or
Speaker 4: forty four. He was executed because there was some suspicion
Speaker 4: that he was trying to take over a certain land
Speaker 4: that he wasn't supposed to have, and he was being subversive.
Speaker 4: And I was reading here it says the executioner beheaded
Speaker 4: Balboa at his four friends with an axe. Balboa's head
Speaker 4: did not come off clean on the first try. It
Speaker 4: took three. Their heads remained in public display for several
Speaker 4: days as a sign of his enemies. Might this was
Speaker 4: another conquistador or a similar Spanish figure that did that,
Speaker 4: And they don't know where his final remains are, but anyway,
Speaker 4: so he met a pretty bad end. But regardless, we
Speaker 4: had a great time exploring that area. Went to this
Speaker 4: place called the Brigantine and we had some raw oysters,
Speaker 4: which is something I don't do all that often. There
Speaker 4: was this huge ship docked next to it on the
Speaker 4: water there called the Star of India. Looks like a
Speaker 4: pirate ship and it's the world's oldest active sailing ship.
Speaker 4: Began her life in the Ramsey Shipyard in the Isle
Speaker 4: of Man in eighteen sixty three. Everywhere you look there's
Speaker 4: just some kind of crazy history. The gas Lamp Quarters
Speaker 4: where we went for dinner of that night, lively downtown
Speaker 4: neighborhood known for its NightLive clubs, bars, lounges. In fact,
Speaker 4: the oldest bar in San Diego is there called the
Speaker 4: Tivoli Bar and Grill. Maybe it's Tivoli, I'm not sure which,
Speaker 4: but opened in eighteen eighty five. So we went there.
Speaker 4: Of course, we had a shot. The next door we
Speaker 4: had one of the best seafood we've ever had at
Speaker 4: the Water Grill. And then after that we got into
Speaker 4: one of these things called a pettycab, which is like
Speaker 4: a cycle rickshaw. Where Lauren and I are sitting in
Speaker 4: the back of this thing at like ten o'clock at night,
Speaker 4: and this guy who is driving it, he's peddling it.
Speaker 4: He says, you want to have a good time. And
Speaker 4: this guy was a maniac, and we're screaming and he's
Speaker 4: driving in circles and it was just he drove us
Speaker 4: all the way back to our hotel. There was just
Speaker 4: always some kind of craziness. Well, look, on our last day,
Speaker 4: I found a couple of different antique shops and I
Speaker 4: found one amazing antique shop that had some big items
Speaker 4: that we want to use to decorate our house. And
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you about those things yet
Speaker 4: because they are being specially delivered to me tomorrow supposedly,
Speaker 4: so if all goes well with that delivery, I'll tell
Speaker 4: you about those things that I bought in the next
Speaker 4: episode of this podcast, because I just don't have time
Speaker 4: to squeeze it all in. So let me give you
Speaker 4: some conclusions here leading to the UFO situation. First off,
Speaker 4: let me say, look, I understand because of politics, California
Speaker 4: gets a bad rap. And you know, the roads were
Speaker 4: pretty bad. They're lots of potholes, and even though San
Speaker 4: Diego is the most expensive town in the country. We
Speaker 4: were at a stoplight and I looked over and I
Speaker 4: saw a guy. He was outside of a gas station.
Speaker 4: I saw him digging through a garbage can and I
Speaker 4: just saw him pull out something and eat it. And
Speaker 4: that's pretty sad when you see things like that. But
Speaker 4: you know, everyone was incredibly nice and helpful to me
Speaker 4: and Lauren, and I mean everyone and Lauren and I.
Speaker 4: You know, we've always talked about like for some reason,
Speaker 4: people just always liked to come up to us out
Speaker 4: of the blue and just talk to us.
Speaker 2: We're not sure.
Speaker 4: I guess we just looked like friendly, talkative people and
Speaker 4: and and ultimately we are you know, I am a
Speaker 4: good talker. I'm a good tipper, and it's very easy
Speaker 4: for me to get information out of people. And yet,
Speaker 4: throughout this entire experience and all these bars and restaurants
Speaker 4: and shops, every opportunity I got, and even after I'd
Speaker 4: been purchasing things and I was a valuable customer, I
Speaker 4: would say, so I'm interested in some of these, like
Speaker 4: UFO reports I've seen on the History Channel and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. You ever hear anything about that? Not one
Speaker 4: person would talk. I've never seen anything quite like it
Speaker 4: in my entire life. Other than some similar areas like
Speaker 4: Laguna Beach. I've encountered that.
Speaker 2: They would.
Speaker 4: They would act like in many cases they wanted to
Speaker 4: say something and then just clam right up and be like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't know anything. It was so weird and unnatural
Speaker 4: and so suspicious. I did meet a man who said
Speaker 4: he had a property I might be able to come
Speaker 4: and visit, and all he would say is I should
Speaker 4: bring a lot of equipment, but he needed to clear
Speaker 4: some things first. And guess what, I have not been
Speaker 4: able to get in touch with him again. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's going to work out or not,
Speaker 4: but it is on my list to go back there
Speaker 4: with equipment that I did not bring on this exploratory
Speaker 4: visit to do some groundbreaking recordings.
Speaker 2: Of the sky.
Speaker 4: I hope, but I swear to you. Call me paranoid,
Speaker 4: call me conspiratorial, but I have been doing this kind
Speaker 4: of thing most of my life since I was practically well,
Speaker 4: you know, fifteen years old is when I really started
Speaker 4: going out and trying to get people to talk to
Speaker 4: me about paranormal stuff. I am an expert. I've interviewed
Speaker 4: every type of person from every walk a lot life
Speaker 4: right down to you know, the common blue collar person
Speaker 4: all the way up to Nobel Prize winning scientist. And
Speaker 4: I have never encountered a whole area like that where
Speaker 4: people would they acted like they wanted to say something
Speaker 4: that we just clam up. I believe, I swear to you.
Speaker 4: I believe that the people in this area around San
Speaker 4: Diego and Katalena Island and Dana Point, the some mimo
Speaker 4: has gone out there that you do not talk about this,
Speaker 4: And I don't know how fishal it is, but I
Speaker 4: think the word is out there. And you know what,
Speaker 4: one thing that surprised me, having never been to San Diego.
Speaker 2: San Diego seems it feels.
Speaker 4: When you're there, like a much smaller place than I imagine.
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like some huge town. The airport was
Speaker 4: incredibly small, so I can see why that you hear
Speaker 4: about a place like that and you feel like it
Speaker 4: would be difficult to control the people. But I do believe,
Speaker 4: and maybe some of you will email me and tell
Speaker 4: me your thoughts on this, I do think that it
Speaker 4: is certainly possible that the people of this area have
Speaker 4: been told, either officially or unofficially, somehow the word has
Speaker 4: been put out there. You do not talk about the
Speaker 4: UFO UAP stuff, and it may just be because you
Speaker 4: have all this military activity around there and people are
Speaker 4: afraid they've been warned not to spill any beans, or
Speaker 4: they think that maybe I'm with the military and I'm
Speaker 4: testing them and trying to see if they're going to talk.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it is, but there's something very.
Speaker 2: Fishy about it.
Speaker 4: So I look forward to going back to the area,
Speaker 4: and I mean the entire area to do my next
Speaker 4: stage of UFO research, and of course I will be
Speaker 4: keeping you updated on that. But I really do think
Speaker 4: that looks it is not overrated, say that it is
Speaker 4: one of the most paranormally active places around the selection
Speaker 4: of UFOs and ghosts is just incredible, and the antiquing
Speaker 4: there is some of the best ever. Wait to you
Speaker 4: hear what I tell you that we are having delivered.
Speaker 4: I don't want to wait. I don't want to tell
Speaker 4: you until it gets here. But listen to this. Let
Speaker 4: me just leave you with this. I guarantee you you
Speaker 4: did not believe you were going to hear.
Speaker 2: Me say this.
Speaker 4: I went into one establishment and it is possible that
Speaker 4: I found the scalp of a yetti of an abominable snowman.
Speaker 2: And guess what I bought it. Now.
Speaker 4: I know you're saying, Josh, that cannot be. There's no
Speaker 4: way you went to San Diego, California and found a
Speaker 4: YETI scalp. Well, look, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Saying it is or it isn't. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 4: This is the wealthiest city, you know, the most expensive city,
Speaker 4: one of the most wealthy cities in the United States.
Speaker 4: It would kind of make sense that somebody there may
Speaker 4: have the money and the clout to obtain a YETI
Speaker 4: scalp that I was able to add to my collection.
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