1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: All right, the twenty twenty NFL Draft all complete. I 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: got a beat writer's round table. It looks like Hollywood squares. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Let's start with down below. Jason Hurst Schwartz, Sports Illustrated, 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Joe Reedy, Associated Press, Daniel Popper, The Athletic Haley Elwood 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Chargers dot Com guys. Welcome Popper. You joined us on Thursday. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers got better today for players and I says 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the theme leadership guys who were really impactful with their 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: college programs. Jason, we'll start with you. 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Would you think, well, obviously you can't discuss the Chargers 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: draft without talking about what they did on Thursday night. 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: I mean a quarterback was always something that was going 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: to be on the table, so long as you know 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: one of the top guys was available that they liked, 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: but that they came back in added a linebacker. I 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: mean Tom Telesco has not really traded up much in 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: the first round during his time as general manager. To 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: see that kind of change in his behavior, I think 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: really informs what they expected the season that they feel 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: like they can really win now with the right editions 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 2: in the draft. 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Hally, do you want to be the first person to 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: congrats Joe readd on getting selected or you edit to 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: be me? Yeah, I'll do it. 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 3: Joe, congratulations read the e. I know we were warming 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: up for this call and Joe's very excited to probably 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: down one of the uniforms. I think he mentioned the 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: Navy bluw. It totally brings out your eyes. 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 4: Joe. 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was unique seeing him because somebody on Twitter, 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: I think last week they were doing draft profiles and 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: they did a Joe read profile, and I think a 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: couple of people in Cincinnati were scared, and we're asking 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: if that was a draft profile of me or not. 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 5: Where I was like, good directional punter, no speed if 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: the returner gets to the second level. But I had 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: excellent coffin corner skills. 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: So it's fantastic. Joe, would you make a We didn't 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to you on Thursday night, 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: so just your your overall thoughts on all six picks. 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: I think. 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: We figured it was going to be mostly offense and 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: not a lot of defense this year, and and it 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 5: basically flipped a script from last year. I think the 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: number of skill players surprised me a little bit, especially 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 5: with two wide receivers. But you look at both of them, 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: read with what he can do in the return game, 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: also lining up and running back at Virginia and being 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: a receiver, and then kJ Hill at Ohio State breaking 49 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: former Charger David Boston's all time receptions record. There in 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: a number of quarterbacks he played with over four over 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: to four years, almost needs a Lifetime Achievement award with 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 5: the number of quarterbacks he played with when you think 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 5: it's started with JT. Barretton and it with Justin Fields 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 5: with haskins Borough and a cast of thousands between there. 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: But as one. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: Who has seen UCLA football the past two years in 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: relation to my other stuff, very happy that they were 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: able to get Joshua Kelly. I think he was a 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: guy at the end of last season we were, you know, 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: maybe thinking a late round pick and hoping that Joshua 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 5: get drafted. He was supposed to go to the Collegiate 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: Bowl at the Rose Bowl, but ended up getting a 63 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: last minute Senior Bowl and really invite and really made 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 5: the most out of it. So I think the team 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: has definitely improved. But for good or bad, this is 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: going to be known as the Justin Herbert draft class 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 5: and his legacy and the legacy of this franchise whenever 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 5: he gets on the field now resting his. 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Hands Popper the offense, Joe kind of alluded to it. 70 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: With Hill and Reid and Kelly, you're getting weapons that 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: could probably make an impact this upcoming year. But also 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: when you think about Justin Herbert, maybe a few years 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: down the line, these are guys that can kind of 74 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: grow together. 75 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I think the one thread through all of 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 6: the picks, apart from what you mentioned, just the leadership, 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 6: which is what they're always looking for. 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: They're always there's a specific culture. 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: They want to establish here between Tom and Anthony and Anthony, 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I go back to training camp last year 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 6: when Anthony's like, we need to find the right fifty 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 6: three guys, not the best fifty three guys. I think 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 6: that's a very good indication of how they want to 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 6: build the team. They're looking for high character guys. But 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 6: the other thread is speed, and every single one of 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 6: these players has speed. In the first five rounds, including 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray, the linebacker they chose, who ran a four 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 6: or five too at two hundred and forty one pounds. Herbert, 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 6: one of the most athletic quarterbacks in the draft. I 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: mean you have Joe Reid ran a four to four 92 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 6: to seven. I mean even Joshua kell as Joe alluded 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 6: to four four nine. I mean, these are you know, 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 6: already the second fastest, third fastest players on their offense 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 6: after after Austin Eckler, you know, and it's all geared 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: towards beating the Chiefs. They're the best team in the league. 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 6: They're the fastest team in the league. They proved this 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 6: past season that you have to be fast. 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: To win in the NFL. Right now, on both sides 100 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: of the ball. 101 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 6: The Charges were particularly lacking in speed on offense, and 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: they addressed that with their fourth and fifth round picks. 103 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 6: And then a guy in josh O'Kelly, who a lot 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 6: of people thought would be a Day two pick and 105 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 6: fits well in that running back room as far as 106 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 6: you know, being a guy that likes to run between 107 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 6: the tackles, you know, North South type runner. And then 108 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 6: kJ Hill was a steal. I mean, everyone I looked 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: at had this guy as a third round pick, maybe 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 6: a fourth round pick at worst. Pick him up in 111 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 6: the seventh rounds and it gives you flexibility here. Keenan 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 6: Allen is on the last year of his contract. kJ 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 6: Hills is in that mold as a route technician, kind 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: of slot guy. It gives you options, you know, it 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 6: gives you options to move potentially move on kin now 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: and say that's going to happen. But you want those 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 6: kinds of options the same way that Jenny and Wosu 118 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 6: gives you the option to move. 119 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: On for Melvin Ingram. 120 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: I thought it was a great draft all around, outside 121 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 6: of not drafting an offensive limb. 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Hey, Haley, you talked to both of those wide receivers 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: today and Joe Reid was a first team All acc 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: at two different positions, kick returner, end, all purpose and 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: then JJ Hill. What can you say about the AULTI 126 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: receptions leader at Ohio State of all schools. What did 127 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: those guys have to say about joining the Chargers. 128 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll start with kJ Hill first. 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: And what I thought was kind of cool. 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: I read a little nugget and asked him about it. 131 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: It was Chris Carter who basically persuaded him to come 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: back to Ohio State for his senior season. I guess 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: if Chris Carter talks to you, you're probably gonna listen. 134 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: But he basically I asked him, like what did he say, Like, 135 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: what did he say that made you come back? And 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: I guess he said Chris Carter told him, maximize your potential. 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: The league will always be there. When you look at 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: what he did his in your year at Ohio State, 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: he certainly did do that. He set reception records, He 140 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: broke reception records like Joe had mentioned, and I think 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: he sort of kind of came into his own and 142 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: felt comfortable and felt sort of like he had unfinished 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: business that he was able to take care of. And 144 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: then getting to Joe Reid, he obviously has that special 145 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: team's ability, but you guys talked about his versatility and 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: he said that's ultimately what makes him such a great 147 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: overall players, the fact that he's lined up at all 148 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: these different positions. When it comes to special teams, he 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: said that he doesn't really think about it. He just 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: has this inherent trust in what he sees, trust coaches 151 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: that put him in those positions. And I think that's 152 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: a really great mature quality to have, especially as a rookie, 153 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: when you can kind of come in and just essentially 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: trust those people that are telling you to be put 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: you know, trusting I guess I should say that those 156 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: people will put you in the best positions and just 157 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: kind of going from there. But yeah, the versatility. I 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 3: think these are two really great pickups overall. 159 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: By the way, forgive me, I think guy said JK. 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Hill at six pm. 161 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: It's KJJ JK Dobbins, J Hill. 162 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I was in the ballpark, right, I was in the horseshoe. 163 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: I think that. 164 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: Thing that Anthony when he was talking about Joe Reid 165 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: was he brought up Josh Cribs and Brad Smith two 166 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 5: guys did he did? He has coached at Cleveland and 167 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: with the Jets. Both those guys were quarterbacks who became 168 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 5: special teams threats and everything else. But just imagine in 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: what Anthony might be able to do with a running back, 170 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: receiver and a special teams guy. I mean, I don't 171 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 5: know if the kids ever played quarterback or not, but 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: almost like a Jim Jensen type and that can do 173 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: almost everything at any time. 174 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Hey, Jason, Joshua Kelly, you lose Melvin Gordon right, what 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: a situation he's in. He goes into a running backs room. 176 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: You couldn't find two better dudes than Austin Ecklin Justin 177 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Jackson your Coach by Anthony Lynn, a running back who 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: has won a pair of Super Bowls, and Daniel Jeremiah 179 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: was talking about this on the broadcast. Joshua Kelly didn't 180 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: have to catch the ball out of the back of 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: at UCLA. He was just he was the bell cow 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: right the pass protection. That's something that was on display 183 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl as well. He has the makings 184 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: of a pretty complete back and it's gonna be a 185 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: nice compliment to the guys they already have. 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he also fits maybe the way 187 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: that this offense is going to change from what it's 188 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: been the first couple of years of the Anthelan era. 189 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: And we heard him discuss late in the twenty nineteen 190 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: season the outside zone, some of the stuff that has 191 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: become really popular the last few years with the rise 192 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: of Kyle Shanahan, Shop McVay, a lot of those coaches 193 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: who share a schematic route with what Anthony Lynn likes 194 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: to do. Joshua Kelly ran a lot of outside zone 195 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: and you seel like, did it really well fans back home? 196 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: If you just look at the highlight package that ESPN 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: NFL Network put up, it's really just Joshua Kelly destroying 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: defenses going off tackle, So it makes sense for what 199 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: they appear to want to do. He's certainly very athletic, 200 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: and he does things a little different from the other 201 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: guys they have in that backfield. Austin Eckler obviously very versatile, 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: can do a lot of things not even just thinks 203 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: you think of with a running back, and Justin Jackson 204 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: has been a very efficient between the tackles runner and 205 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: Joshua Hill can do a lot of the other things 206 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: in between those two extremes. So gives them a nice 207 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: set of running backs. And maybe we'll see maybe more 208 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: than like you know, a tandem that we've seen at 209 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: the top with the charges the last few years. This 210 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: might be a larger committee moving forward because of how 211 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: good josh Kelly already is. 212 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: He hung two eighty nine on USC Popper. And I 213 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: want to ask you, Daniel about the special teams aspect 214 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: in all of this, because Aloie Gilman coaching compared him 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: to Adria Phillips. You'll lose Nick de Zubbart. You're getting 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: guys who could contribute all special teams right away with 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: a lot of these picks. 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's exactly what they were looking at 219 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 6: with that six round pick. And I tweeted it pretty 220 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 6: much right afterwards. You know, I just have to thinking 221 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 6: about taking a safety. Well, they lost Derek Wad they're 222 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 6: leading special teams tackler. They lost Adrian Phillips, who was 223 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 6: their leading special teams tackler in twenty eighteen. They lost 224 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: Nikto Zubnar, who was their leading special teams tackler in 225 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: twenty seventeen. That's all your production, you know, those are 226 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 6: all the guys that are making the tackles on your 227 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 6: coverage units. Where are you going to get that production from? 228 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: And that's why they go out and they draft the 229 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 6: lov Gilman, a guy who played an all core four 230 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 6: special teams at Notre Dame and like we talked about before, 231 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 6: has all those kind of leadership locker room characteristics that 232 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 6: you're looking for. You know, formerly attended Navy, you know, 233 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 6: checks a lot of the boxes in that department. But 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 6: like when you get to the late later in the draft, 235 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 6: this is these are the things you have to start 236 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 6: thinking about. It's not just about having speed on offense 237 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 6: and having a good lineback, like you got to be 238 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 6: able to stop the opposing kick returns. You have to 239 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 6: be able to stop the opposing punter returns. If you're 240 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 6: getting gashed in that department, you're gonna lose a lot 241 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: of games because you're gonna be losing the field position. 242 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 6: And I think kJ Hill's another guy that can help 243 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 6: you on special teams as a coverage guy. So you know, 244 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 6: that's sort of what you're looking for in those six 245 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 6: and seven rounds. You want guys that can fill those roles, 246 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: and the Chargers had a need in that department. It 247 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 6: wasn't something that I really the draft, but once they 248 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: make the pick, it makes us find a way to 249 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 6: replace those guys you know that you lost on your 250 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 6: special teams coverage units. 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Hally I joked with coach Lynn. I asked him if 252 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: he was the head coach of the LA Chargers or 253 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. 254 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 255 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: After today, it's it's a lock that a member of 256 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is going to be on this roster every 257 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: single season, I think, and. 258 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: A defender at that right, Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's 259 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: pretty cool. I think obviously, I think we're all three 260 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: of them, we're all three of them captains at one point. 261 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: For Notre Dame, Drew Tranquil was for sure. But they 262 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: all played together. And I know, I know just talking 263 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: to Troy Pride Junior, the corner who went in the 264 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: fourth round today, he was with Isaac there too, So 265 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: I think Isaac was, uh, well, maybe Isaac was not 266 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: because because he transferred from Navy. 267 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Correct Gilman, Yes, yes, I think he's I think he 268 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: redshirted that that. Yeah, I think I think they missed 269 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: each other. But overall, I think when you look at 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 3: rookies in general, and Chris, I believe you talk to 271 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: him and you might have referenced this with him, But 272 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: when you look at rookies in general, Tom had talked 273 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: to me about this, you kind of forget the stress 274 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: that comes with leaving one spot and having to pick 275 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: up and move to a brand new place. Well, this 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: guy is coming west and he has so many pieces 277 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: already out here of no you know, knowing where to go. 278 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: When he can get out here, I'll be will say that, 279 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: but he already has that sort of built in bond 280 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: with guys on this team. Drew Drinkle has been tweeting 281 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: all afternoon how stoked he is. So that familiarity it 282 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: helps you I mean, look, Drew and Jerry went through 283 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: it together last year and they both had connections with 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: Isaac and whatnot. So to have those bonds again, it's 285 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: just so helpful, or I guess I should say, I 286 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: imagine it's so helpful as a rookie. And there's clearly 287 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: something about what these guys did in college and what 288 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: they're able to do at the next level that is 289 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: really impressive to this front office staff, because, like you said, 290 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: we are now you know, two or three excuse me, 291 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: in the last two years, and then you add Isaac 292 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago for Notre Dame Golden Domers 293 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: right there. 294 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: And this may be incidental, guys, but the fact that 295 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you get all these guys who've played a ton of 296 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: college ball. Right Hill was a fifth year senior. You 297 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: have a ton of seniors. Maybe that learning curve from 298 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: going to college to the pros won't be as steep 299 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: in an unconventional year where we're doing a lot of 300 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: things virtually. 301 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: Joe, Yeah, I think soal And I also think the 302 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: other advantage that can't be understated. I think when we 303 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 5: look back to the lockout in twenty eleven is that 304 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 5: coaches can have virtual meetings with these players, they can 305 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 5: send the play looks to these guys instead of I 306 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: know with the Bengals in twenty eleven, it was a 307 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 5: new offensive coordinator and Jake Gruden. Luckily Andy Dalton was 308 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: able to visit the complex and got the new playbook 309 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: and was able to mimeograph it for all of the 310 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: veterans and everything. And I think it can't be understated, 311 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: not only the rookies but the veterans on the team. 312 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: This year, you're gonna have a Shane is the permanent 313 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. Now the offense is going to change to 314 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: a new style because you don't have a conventional drop 315 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: back quarterback in Philip. You'll have a quarterback that maybe 316 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 5: on third and one and fourth and one can sneak 317 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 5: it in. Not an indictment against Philip, but that just 318 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: shows how things can change. You've got a new offensive 319 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,119 Speaker 5: line coach with a new zone blocking scheme and everything 320 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 5: that having these virtual meetings, and Anthony was pretty positive 321 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: on it this week. He just can't speak enough on 322 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: how the coaches are going to be able to do 323 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: the instructions and everything, but really up to the players 324 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: on working out. 325 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: And getting the. 326 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 5: Getting the training and everything. And I think we saw 327 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 5: in twenty eleven with rookie quarterbacks even without having an 328 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 5: offseason program, some still came in and had a pretty 329 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: decent year. Cam Newton didn't have an offseason workout, was 330 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: the NFL Rookie of the Year and set the world 331 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: on fire. Andy Dalton led the team to led the 332 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 5: Bengals to the playoffs. So the fact that I think, 333 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 5: especially with four quarterbacks in the first six picks, I 334 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: think I think they're just going to be fine still 335 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: getting the workouts with assistants and stuff, and maybe it 336 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: is overblown a little bit, the fact that they're not 337 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: in the building right now. 338 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Copper, and then to Jason, I want to ask you 339 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: guys both this because Haley brought up a good point 340 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the other day about James Campen being the new offensive 341 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: line coach, and Daniel, I know you asked about offensive 342 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: tackle when you have a new offensive line coach. I 343 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: go back to Seattle when their offensive line was in 344 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: shambles at twenty seventeen, and what a world of difference 345 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: just bringing in new coaches and implementing a new scheme 346 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: did for them. The fact that James camp is coming 347 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: in familiarity with Brian Bulaga and just a reputable name 348 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: in the league. How do you think that that's going 349 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: to work when it comes to the development of guys 350 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: like Trey Pipkins and Sam Tevey and Trent Scott. 351 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 6: I mean, they're putting a ton of trust into James 352 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 6: Campen to develop these guys. If they decide not to 353 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 6: bring in an offensive tackle, I think that's still a possibility. 354 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Anthony Lynn said it was a possibility. 355 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 6: Jason Peters is still available, you know, Pro Bowl left tackle, 356 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: obviously not still at that same kind of level, but 357 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 6: a guy who could come in and make a lot 358 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 6: of sense as sort of a mentor to allow Trey 359 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 6: Pipkins to develop for one more year. But if they don't, 360 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 6: it's going to be up to James Campen to develop 361 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 6: these guys. The other facet of this, as Jason was 362 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 6: alluding to earlier, is that the scheme is going to 363 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: change significantly, and Tom for the first time admitted that 364 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 6: it's going to include more quarterback movement, more play action. 365 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 6: I imagine they're going to implement some RPO. I imagine 366 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 6: they're going to implement some zone read. 367 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 4: It's going to be a. 368 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 6: More run heavy offense, and all of these things are 369 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 6: going to allow your young players to have less on 370 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 6: their shoulders, because ultimately, with Philip Rivers on the team, 371 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: he's dropping back at least thirty times a game, most 372 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 6: of the time over forty times a game, and he's 373 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 6: there and he's effectively a sitting duck because he can't 374 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 6: move that well, and so that puts a lot of 375 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 6: pressure on your left tackle to stand up some of 376 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 6: these really really talented pass rushers, and ultimately that's not 377 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 6: a great recipe if you have a young tackle or 378 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: maybe someone who isn't as polished in pass protection. If 379 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 6: you're moving your quarterback and he's a righty, he's most 380 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 6: of the time going to be rolling out to his 381 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 6: right side, away from the left tackle. So all these 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 6: things sort of factor in. I think it's a combination 383 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 6: of them, trusting James Campen has developmental skills, and then 384 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 6: also these scheme changes that are going to come to 385 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 6: this offense. It's going to look a lot different than 386 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 6: I Maagic. It's going to look a lot more like 387 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 6: what the Ravens do in Baltimore under Greg Rohman, who 388 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 6: coached with Anthony Lynn in Buffalo in twenty fifteen sixteen. 389 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: I want to hone in on one particular thing that 390 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: Popper said, because to LESCo, Anthony Lynn, all of them 391 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: discussed play action is being a big part of the 392 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: offense moving forward, and that can mean a lot of things, 393 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: but in particular, it's a way of slowing down the 394 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: pass rush. We've seen it across the league, especially the 395 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: past few seasons, and everything indicates that that is going 396 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: to be a bigger part of this offense moving forward. 397 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Even last year. 398 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: In the last few years, that offense had been very 399 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: effective on play action, that just didn't use it a lot. Now, 400 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: if that's going to be a larger component of the scheme, 401 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: you can mitigate some of the inexperience at offensive line. 402 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: So if the left tackle, whether it's Trey Pipkins, Trent Scott, 403 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: maybe someone we don't even know of right now, in 404 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: that competition, they're going to get some help from the 405 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: scheme because they're not going to have to just be 406 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: on an island blocking one on one as much as 407 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: they have had to in the past. I think that's 408 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: one of the big changes that we could expect to 409 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: see in twenty twenty. 410 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's go around the horn to close 411 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: this out. Your parting shot, your final thoughts on the 412 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL draft. Joe Reedy will start with you. 413 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 5: I think overall, for having only six picks, Chargers addressed 414 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 5: their needs did well. We talk about trying to catch 415 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: up with speed with Kansas City, but the bad thing 416 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 5: is Kansas City got quicker too. I mean, the LSU 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: running back in the first round and who they added 418 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: is you know, going to be a There's still the 419 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 5: team to beat. But I also think the other good 420 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: thing is that there's no pressure on Justin Herbert to 421 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 5: come in day one and be the franchise quarterback because 422 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: nobody knows Tyrod taylor strengths and weaknesses that are in 423 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 5: this league than Anthony Lynn. And I think Anthony's going 424 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: to get the most out of Tyrod. But if Justin 425 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 5: has a great training camp and supplant them, so be it. 426 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 5: But at least there's no pressure to come in day 427 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: one and be the man. 428 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: By the way, a lot of teams in the AFCU 429 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: West got faster. Henry Rooks in Oakland, they drafts have 430 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: a million wide receivers. Jerry Judy and kJ Hamler and Denver. 431 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: But I think the Charger is well rounded, a well 432 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: rounded draft when you look at both sides of the football. 433 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: Hailey, I have to say, I love actually you brought 434 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: this up, just the leadership that a lot of these 435 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: young guys have. And Tom told me the other day, Look, 436 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: it's very hard when you're young, and when you're a 437 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: rookie to kind of come in and sort of assume 438 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: that position. But what these guys did for their programs 439 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: in college, they've earned leadership, They've had leadership, and they 440 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: can definitely grow and build on that throughout their time 441 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: with the Chargers. Now, one thing I'm interested though, is 442 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: just kind of where we go from here. This draft 443 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: was virtual, I think though for us from what we 444 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: do besides just being at home, and Tom had alluded 445 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: to this, it felt very normal in a weird sense, 446 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: just beyond the surroundings because we're still doing what we 447 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: normally do. But where do we go from here once 448 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: we sort of, you know, put a bow on this 449 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: after this weekend and then go back to virtual offseason programs, 450 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: and then how those rookies get integrated in. I think 451 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna be really interesting, something that's interesting to follow, 452 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: and then always just what's going to happen over these 453 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: next couple months. Just in general. 454 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating to know how these guys are going 455 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: to get up the speed virtually, and a lot of 456 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: trust being put on the players to be at your 457 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: best when it comes to just stay in shape. Jason, 458 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: you're next. 459 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: The first pick the Chargers made was very obviously about 460 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: the future. Anytime you take a quarterback in the top ten, 461 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: it's about the future. But everything else that Tom Telesco 462 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: and the Chargers did was about winning right now. And 463 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: I think that really reinforces a notion that a lot 464 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: of us had from last year that despite the fact 465 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: that Chargers only won five games, they were a much 466 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: better team. They just had a lot of bad luck 467 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: with turnovers, things that will regress positively in the future, 468 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: you would assume just based on the numbers and if 469 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: that's a team that's better than they performed last year. 470 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: And they added a lot of pieces that contribute to 471 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: the team right away that even in a position where 472 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: you know they're in the same division of the Kansas 473 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: City are Chiefs, there are just a lot of talented 474 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: teams at the very top of the AFC. They have 475 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: the opportunity to not just get back into the playoffs, 476 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: but maybe more than just a playoff appearing team if 477 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: things go reasonably well in twenty twenty. 478 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Love it, closing copper with the final word. 479 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 6: So overall, this was a really good draft, and for 480 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: the first time in Tom Telesco's tenure as general manager, 481 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: they will have a very talented quarterback on a rookie deal, 482 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 6: which is what you're always looking for, and that's what 483 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 6: this draft ultimately will be remembered for, and that's the 484 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 6: defining thing of this draft. But like my presiding feeling 485 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 6: still after mulling this over after the draft is over, 486 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: is like, I still think that the Chargers are overestimating 487 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 6: what they have on the offensive line, even with the 488 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: additions and trades that they made this offseason. And I 489 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 6: hate being the negative Nancy, but you look at the 490 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: depth and you know, you never want to talk about 491 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: a player potentially getting injured, but that's the reality of 492 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 6: the sport, and in order to properly address your depth 493 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 6: and analyze your depth, you have to consider it in 494 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 6: that context. Brian Mulagas, you're starting right tackle. If he 495 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 6: goes down, what do you have at the two tackle 496 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 6: spots if you don't make any more moves, you have 497 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 6: Trey Pipkins a left tackle and Sam Tevi at right tackle. 498 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 6: That is twenty nineteen all over again. And that was 499 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 6: the biggest issue with this offense was not being able 500 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: to protect the quarterback. I don't know if James Campin's 501 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: developmental skills and the changes in the scheme are enough 502 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: to make that reality if the Laga does end up 503 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 6: going down something that's going to work for this team 504 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: and make them successful on offense. I still feel like 505 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 6: they have to add a tackle. That's my number one 506 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: thing coming away from this draft is that they have 507 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 6: to address that position. 508 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: Still. I don't think they have enough there and I. 509 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 6: Think that at some point next season if they don't 510 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 6: address it, it's going to come back invite them. 511 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: Let me just count of that real quick, because because 512 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor his mobility and also Justin Herbert's mobility, do 513 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: you think that factor is in at all, the fact 514 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: that they guys can move around a little bit. 515 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, of course that's the number one factor 516 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 6: in this and that's really when you like when I 517 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 6: asked Tom about it, you. 518 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: Know, an hour ago, whatever, the half hour ago. You know. 519 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 6: That's what he's alluding to, is like, we have quarterbacks 520 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 6: now that are gonna be able to escape the pocket, 521 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 6: They're gonna be able to move around. We are going 522 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 6: to design things that are going to move on. That's 523 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: going to take some of the pressure off of these guys. 524 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 6: But ultimately, I just don't think if in an instance 525 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 6: where Bloggo goes down, or even if one of those 526 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 6: two guys between Samitev and Pipkins is starting the left tackle, 527 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 6: I don't think the combination combination of James Camp and 528 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 6: having a more mobile quarterback is enough to overcome the 529 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 6: flaws that they have at that position. 530 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Right now, we'll see. We hope that we get these 531 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: guys on the field very soon so we can have 532 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: these conversations in open error at Jack Hammitt Sports Complex 533 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: and before that six feet apart though, absolutely guys, Hey, 534 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I know it's been a long day, a long weekend. Popper. 535 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: You did this. You did double duty for us this weekend. 536 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Jason, Joe always appreciate your contributions. And 537 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: Haley get some rest. It's been a long weekend guys, 538 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, appreciate your time.