1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: Got to tell you, you know, we've been doing this for 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: so long. This show has been on the air for 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: twenty how many years we've been on twenty eight years 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: with this show. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about this in the green room with 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Caroline and we were like, how long have you been 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: doing this? Oh my gosh, I ca and we were 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: reminiscing about all the comedians that have come through here 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: on what has happened and how some of them said 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: things they shouldn't have said. 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: That happens. Well, I got to say, you know, New 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: York City, the quintessential big, big, big cornerstones of New 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: York City, Elaine's and Madison Square Garden and let's say 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Carnegie Delly Studio fifty four, and of course Caroline's Comedy Club. 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Caroline Hirsch is here. We've known you for so long, 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: and even though the comedy club is not open, you 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: will always be Your name will always be synonymous with 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: comedy in New York City until long we're all long gone. 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. Wow, this is Fancy Diggs here. 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Whoa you like it? 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: Fancy? It's all for so it's really great. What a studio. Yeah, well, 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 4: thank you so much for that. I'm you know, right 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: up there with Madison Square Gardens. That's a good thing. 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're excited. You know, we created the festival, 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: the New York Comedy Festival, twenty years ago. 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: You believe that, twenty years and it goes like that. 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: So we're really excited to be in business for twenty 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: years with that, and that gets bigger and bigger every year. 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: And then I get to work with everybody that kind 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: of started at Carolines, So you know, I get to 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: work with you know, everybody that started there that's still around. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I have a list of things I want 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: to talk about, including you know, some of the comedians 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: we've lost along the way. But and of course Greg 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Charles is here too, and we were just talking with Caroline. 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are like joined at they have 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: you even worked with each other for so many years? 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: How many years of you two worked with each other 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: twenty five? I think just twenty four, I think, yeah, right, 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: more than yes, we've all been together about the same 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: amount of tix. 45 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: Crazy. 46 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: But we were talking about Carolina, how Greg used to 47 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: bring in these big names in comedy back then. A 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: lot of them aren't with us anymore. But you know 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: the names that you used to bring it. Do you 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: even remember any of those that you and Caroline would 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: bring to our show? Oh? Wow, yeah, John Pennett. 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 5: Remember John loved doing the Elvis. Your show was the 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 5: only show he liked to do. I remember every time 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 5: we would book John, I would get a call on 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: my cell phone and he wouldn't even say hello, He 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 5: would just be like. 57 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Are we doing Elvis? He was such a sweetheart. We 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: always had great catering when he was in. I mean, 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: God rest his soul. Caroline, you weren't there to day 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: when when when Greg brought one of the times he 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: brought John Pinette in, we gave him a big bowl 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: of I think I think it was potato salad. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first time we ever met him. 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: I came in the studio and I said, I'm not 65 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: sure this is supposed to happened, but the guy who's 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: coming in, he's eating the whole potato salad himself with 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: a full. 68 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Johnette he brought it. It was a part of the 69 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: interview at the Potatoes. Now we internew John Bennette and 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: a potato salad. 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: Ye. 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: Anyway, I do want to get into the New York 73 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: Comedy Festival over twenty years rolling, we got to talk 74 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: about that and who's going to be there this year. 75 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: Let's talk about comedy, Caroline, you know, how has comedy 76 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: changed since the day you opened your first location of Caroline's. 77 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: Has it changed well in your opinion, Let's talk about 78 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: how many people are doing it now. You know, you 79 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: could count on your hands the amount of headliners. You know, 80 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: at the first club there were maybe thirteen fifteen headliners 81 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: that used to rotate and come back to the club. 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: Now we have a whole two other generations of comedians 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: that have come out of that. You know, from forty 84 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: years ago, from watching the John Stewarts on The Daily Show. 85 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: You know, there was a whole breed that came out 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: of that that are like in the thirties and forties 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: right now. So it's it's increased in size, it's as 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: smart as can be, it's as relevant as can be, 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: and it's it's it's it's part of our culture. It's 90 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: part of the American culture today. 91 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: To be funny, I think we need it today more 92 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: than ever. We need to laugh more than ever. 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: You know, with everything that's happening, you know in our 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: world today, it's it's just you know, it's it's a 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: stress relief. So everybody should kind of like embrace the 96 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: festival for a week. Think youre going to a spy everynight. 97 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: Go out and buy a ticket and this will be 98 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: your cool down. So to go see a lot of 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: our headliners here that are all the will be all 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: the big stars of the future. Trust me, you know, 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: I look back to how we started the festival and 102 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: started Carolines and the amount of people that have come 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: out of that club. I mean, I didn't realize what 104 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: we were creating at that time, and with the help 105 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: of you know, all the media to enbra what we were 106 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: doing at that time and putting it and putting it 107 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: as a as an art, which is what I always thought. 108 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: It was the hardest thing to ever do, much harder 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: than acting. It's you know, to be funny on stage. 110 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: So I'm glad we came and I'm glad we were 111 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: part of it, and I get to continue to do 112 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 4: this stuff. 113 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: So I love that. I love that you're still doing 114 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: this and we'll be for ever more doing it. And 115 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: also we look to comedy as sort of the gauge 116 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: as to where we are in our lives as far 117 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: as what we get away with and talking and conversations 118 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: political this and that. And I've noticed, you know, we 119 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: we've all noticed the trend over the years of comedians 120 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: back in the day could get away with so many 121 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: things and no one was really offended. And now you know, 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: it's every everyone has has sort of had to change 123 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: and evolve. And I get that. And what is your 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: feeling about, you know, the story that comes out every 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: once in a while people go to clubs and watch 126 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: a comedian and they start heckling and start like interacting 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: with a comedian in a negative way because it don't 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: like their material. 129 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: I know, it's you know, I you know, I know 130 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: there's a whole thing now with crowd work, and everybody's 131 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 4: doing crowd work. 132 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: To me, it's the hackiest form of comedy. 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we really. 134 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: We never liked we never liked it. 135 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: Look, I know, it's entertaining for the audience and this 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: and that, and a lot of comedians are now getting 137 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: content because it's in the moment kind of stuff that 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: they can use. But we always thought it was like 139 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: pretty hacky when when that happened. 140 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think that's rude. 141 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: But then again, comedians should not, you know, start start 142 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: doing it with with with the audience so that they 143 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: have a field data answer them back. 144 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: So that's how I feel about that. 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: You know who really loves a lot of comedians and 146 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: comedy itself is Gandhi right over here, and we all do. 147 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: And Danielle has a she's gonna be a part of 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 2: the festival. We got to work about that in a second. 149 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: Two. 150 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Gandhi, when you first came to work with us, you 151 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: said we got to get more comedians through here. 152 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 153 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: I wanted to complian every Friday. I was like, I 154 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 6: know they're in the city, I know that Fridays are 155 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 6: a fun day, and just just have medians in here. 156 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 6: I thought it'd be awesome. I don't know why we don't, Nate. 157 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: I love they bring another dimension to what's going on. 158 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: And fun fact, you know, Elvis's birthday is coming up 159 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 6: and he told us not to do anything, and I 160 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 6: thought it'd be really funny to put together a roast. 161 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 6: When I tell you, I got shut down from every 162 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 6: avenue possible. 163 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: It's not happening. Thought a roast. 164 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: It's a toast. 165 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: No, it's a roast. These people roast me every frig 166 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: and day. By the way, if you're just turning us on, 167 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: Caroline Herst's here along with that friend Greg Charles, and 168 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Caroline's New York Comedy Festival is on the way. Let's 169 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: talk about that. Let's talk about how to get in, 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Let's talk about who's going to be there, and how 171 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Danielle is a part of it as well. So you 172 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: go first, Caroline. 173 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: So Danielle, we're going to be doing a uhud are left? 174 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 175 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: Well yeah, okay, Well we're doing something with Danielle and 176 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: we'll be announcing that, you know. 177 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Very the dates and everything. 178 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: No, it's November twelve, is the case. You want to 179 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: put it down, and it's called down for Laughs, And 180 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: all the proceeds are for Down Syndrome for Hearts of Joy, 181 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: which is an amazing organization that helps Down syndrome children 182 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: with their heart operations if they can't afford it here 183 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and in other countries, because one of the biggest things 184 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: with children with Down syndrome is a lot of them 185 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: have heart defects and a lot of places they don't 186 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: even know they have the heart defects, and so she 187 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: comes in and hearts of Joy and they help with that. 188 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: And so that's what we're gonna We're putting together a 189 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: show to benefit that on November twelfth. 190 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: So we're excited. 191 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: Okay, So, and the festival will start on November eighth 192 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: through the seventeenth, So we have over We're gonna have 193 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: close to over two hundred shows and god knows something, 194 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: three hundred comedians Christ all of them. 195 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: I beam them in. 196 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you know, but but you know of interest 197 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: of some of the people that we worked in the past, 198 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, Judd Apatow, Jabouki Young White, Gabriel and Glacias, JB. Smooth, 199 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: Tracy Morgan, Joe Liszt, Dan soder, Zara zag. I mean, 200 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: we have a list of people here that are the 201 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: most some amazing talent that I worked with before, and 202 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 4: other people that worked at Caroline's and now we're producing 203 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: at a larger venue. 204 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: How cool. 205 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Well look at that. Wow, you know one of my 206 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: funniest stories. I'm sure you have a million. Have you writen? 207 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: First of all, back back up one step, Caroline, have 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: you ever thought about writing a book about about Carolines 209 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: and the history of this incredible institution. 210 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: I have thought about it. I'd like to do that. 211 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: You think it'll sell, Yeah. 212 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean one of my I mean, you're full 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: of stories. One of my favorite stories is when you 214 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: dropped little lines like this Carolyn and go, yeah, I 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: remember this little short comedian drive down from Philly and 216 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: he'd be like the host of some nights at Caroline's. 217 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: Maybe you've heard of him, Kevin Hart. I mean, she 218 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: name drops like that all the time. You're like, oh 219 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: my god, Kevin Hart. Any comedian that says Carolines, what's that, 220 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: they're not a comedian. And they would all say, if 221 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,119 Speaker 2: you don't roll through Carolines, you're not you're not successful. 222 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: We were just. 223 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: Talking about Dave Chappelle doing, you know, trying out his show, 224 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: The Chappelle's Show that he did for Comedy Central. He 225 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: would come to Caroline on Monday nights and do a 226 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: mock show to see if it was working. So we 227 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: did that for a number of like a month of 228 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: him taking those kind of shows. 229 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: So they'd be like surprises, like they just would like 230 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: you go to see one person and then then Dave 231 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Chappelle would just pop up. 232 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was Monday nights. 233 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy part of someone's history. 234 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: That's amazing. It's been amazing. 235 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: It's just been amazing, you know from you know some 236 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: of my my my Richard Belzer, Richard Lewis that has passed, 237 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: John Pinnette, Gary Shanling, Gilbert Godfreed. You know, these were 238 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: my people I started with there at the club, and 239 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: it's just been Yeah, it's. 240 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: In the roy I've lost so many, so many of 241 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: the greats. 242 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: Right. 243 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: What about the comedians that are so hot and then 244 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: they're not? I mean, Dane Cook is a good example. 245 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Now I'm not I'm not trying to pick on him whatever. 246 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he was like the name, he was like 247 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: the guy, and then he wasn't. I mean, how does 248 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: that work? What happens during the evolution of a comedian's career. 249 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: Okay, you know people say to me or I'll say, 250 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: this guy's going to be great, But then again, there's 251 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: some stumbling blocks that might happen, you know, their personal life. 252 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 4: It could be I don't know, it could be things 253 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: that they've done in their personal life that have like 254 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: resulted in what happens. 255 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: Look Dane Cook. 256 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: He was the darling. That kid was unbelievable. He would 257 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: sell out a Caroline's Night night of a Super Bowl. 258 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: He would be selling out to young people. We produced 259 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: him in the New York Comedy Festival in two thousand 260 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: and six. He did two sold out shows at Madison 261 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 4: Square Garden. That's nineteen thousand people a show in one 262 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: day he did. 263 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: And then you know. 264 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: He was he was. He made his career through MySpace. 265 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: That's how long we go back to that. 266 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: So it's part of that. 267 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: But you know, then you have a person like a 268 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: Jerry Seinfeld. I mean, you know, Jerry is just had 269 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: his seventieth birthday. He's as relevant as can be from 270 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: the day he started. So you got to give him credit, 271 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: you know for starting out because I started with him, wow, 272 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: over forty years ago, you know, from so longevity the 273 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: socks and the dryer to what he's doing now about. 274 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: So, I mean, so longevity is is I guess that's 275 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: that's his badge of honor, right, I mean, do you 276 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: have any other comedians that I don't know if you 277 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: can say that are your favorites? Your personal Caroline Hirsch favorites. 278 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: Well, you know, let's go to Bill Burr. He was 279 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 4: one of one of one of the kids that started 280 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: out there, the Dave Chappelle. He was one of the kids, 281 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: must have been he said he was nineteen. I think 282 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: he was seventeen. I think he lied, you know, about 283 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: when he started. So we watched everybody grow through there, 284 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: so you know, look at Jed Apatow. Jed Apatow was 285 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: a kid that snuck into Caroline's on Eighth Avenue and 286 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: was doing interviews. He said he was a reporter and 287 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: he was doing interviews and you know, I when his 288 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: book came out he talked about Pee Herman. Now I 289 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: knew he really was there because he talked about the showroom, 290 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: the dressing room being in the basement, and it was 291 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: and that's where Paul was in the basement in it. 292 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: So it was like coming back and I'm working with 293 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: him now. So look at that. 294 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: Wow, that's forty two years full circle there, Gabriel and 295 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 4: gill Iglesias. He's been, you know, around in our world forever. 296 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: JB. Smooth. JB. 297 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: Smooth was a writer on Saturday Night Live, and he 298 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: used to do a Caroline's Late show on Saturday Fridays, 299 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: and Saturday nights, not Saturday and not Friday, is Saturday nights. 300 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: We did a late show with him when he wasn't writing, 301 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: so you know, everybody, it's comfortable circled with so many people. 302 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: Look at Bill Maher, the star of today. I mean, 303 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: he's like a voice of reason in political humor today, 304 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: isn't he? So? Working again with him and he started 305 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: on eighth Avenue. Wow, So there's a lot of longevity. 306 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Here, so much history there, right, Gandhi of something else 307 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: you wanted to talk about? 308 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I have so many questions. So if 309 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 6: you are a young comedian, a new comedian, what do 310 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: you guys suggest is the best route to take to 311 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 6: get to the stage of longevity. 312 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to write, and you really 313 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: have to have an original voice, or don't go into 314 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: the business if you don't have an original voice or 315 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: work on you know, making it happen, and that evolves. 316 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: That doesn't always happen right away. So I've watched people 317 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: be on the stage. They could be mediocre, medioca until 318 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: they find that they have that be Jesus moment when 319 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: it all clicks, and that just takes time to being 320 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: on stage and doing it. 321 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: So to your point about the original voice, you guys 322 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 6: had to have seen comedians come through who maybe stole 323 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: material from other comedians. 324 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: How does that work? 325 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 6: Do you say anything about it? You just keep it 326 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 6: to yourself? 327 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, stealing from comedians, maybe it happens, 328 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: But there's a train of thought that everybody kind of 329 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: has at the same time parallel. 330 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: Okay, so alike, you think alike, and maybe that's what happens. 331 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: I don't do you think that? 332 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Like? 333 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Like, let's take Lisa Lampinelli for for an example. Because 334 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: of the culture of the world right now, she had 335 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: to kind of change her entire act. Do you think 336 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: that comedians should do that or should they stick to 337 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: what they do? 338 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: I think you stick to what you do if you 339 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: really believe in it. Listen, Lisa was one of my 340 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: favorite comedians at the club, famous a female that went 341 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: so far. I mean, look, the thing about a joke, 342 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: a great joke is that you get to the line 343 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 4: and you don't cross it, but you leave people remembering 344 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: something in their brain about it. So to me, that's 345 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: the best Ali Wan wants to explain that about telling 346 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: it a great joke that may not be politically correct. 347 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: Just go to the line and suggest and then leave 348 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: it at that. So, I mean, you know Lisa, she's dull. 349 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was love Lisa. We're still very good friends 350 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: with her. By the way, Caroline Hirsch is here and Greg. 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: Greg's Harles, by the way, has been just as instrumental 352 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: with our show and bringing the comedians through as Caroline 353 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: has bringing them into the club. We're talking about, of course, 354 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: the New York Comedy Festival, which is coming up. It's 355 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: November eight through seventeenth. All the info, by the way, 356 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: it's pretty simple, and why Comedy Festival dot com? Is 357 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: that right? That's correct? Greg, you're so quiet back there. 358 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: I didn't expel this. 359 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 5: I thought I was going to be sitting outside the studio. No, 360 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 5: I don't. I like watching and listening. But thank you 361 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 5: for having me on. 362 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Well. I mean this is big. I mean, 363 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: this is a big New York thing. You know a 364 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: lot of people who don't live here, but they know 365 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: about the Empire State Building, they know about the Statue 366 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: of Liberty, and they'll know about Carolines. I mean, it's 367 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: a big New York thing. Give yourself a little credit. Guys. 368 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. 369 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 4: Ell. 370 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: This is I wanted to just say this. One of 371 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: the great things about working at Carolines and with the 372 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: Comedy Festival, we get an opportunity to work with Danielle 373 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 5: again and we go way back because Danielle. 374 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: I can't remember the year. Maybe you do. 375 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: Danielle used to host her own show at Carolina she 376 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 5: did it. I remember that it was called The Girls 377 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: Show the Female Comedians, and it was such a wonderful show. 378 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: And it's again. 379 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 5: It's another full circle moment where you know, many years 380 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 5: ago we had the pleasure of working with her. It 381 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 5: was a great and so many great female comedians came 382 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: through there. And to have the opportunity to work with 383 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: her again, it's just wonderful. 384 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: I tell you, there's no better feeling in the world 385 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: going on stage at Caroline's to host and knowing you 386 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: don't have to be funny, because I would. I would 387 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: crack my pants every time I would go up there. 388 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh so, the guy that's going to be 389 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: hosting the show for us, he yesterday asked me, He's like, hey, 390 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: can you co host it with me? I said, as 391 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: long as I don't have to be funny, Oh my god. 392 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Frightening, frightening. My favorite part of comedy club is that 393 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: light that flashes when it's time for you to wrap 394 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: it up, the rap light. 395 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: They listen to that or do they really just always go. 396 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: Over the good ones listen. It's like if you put 397 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: like a tanning lamp in there. There are some comedians 398 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: that would be pitch black at this point because it's 399 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: just they flash it for like an hour and they 400 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: stay up there. We had to cut the mic a 401 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: few times on some comedians. 402 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: Oh really really, because there's you know, first the light 403 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: come and they'll tell you, give me the light at five, 404 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: give me the light at ten, so they can pace 405 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: the end of their set. And then some just don't 406 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: say anything and they see the light, and then the 407 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 5: light starts flashing and they ignore it, and then they 408 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: start acknowledging to the audience that the light is flashing, 409 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: and then it's time to cut the mic and say 410 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 5: good night. And oh it's a rare occasion, but I 411 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 5: was there a few times when that happened. 412 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm sure a lot of drama has happened, 413 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: especially backstage and in the basement and wherever. That'll be 414 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: in the book. This will be in the book. And 415 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: also Caroline in the book. A lot of people And 416 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: I used you to think this when I was when 417 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: I was a lot younger, like, how did Caroline get 418 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: started and in the comedy club business? Was she a comedian? 419 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: And you said, absolutely not. You just saw a need 420 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: in New York City for this and it turned into 421 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: what it turned into, right right, I. 422 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: Mean it was David Letterman was just going on the air. 423 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: Actually I watched him at he had a ten o'clock 424 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 4: show in the morning, give you can believe that, and 425 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: that didn't last long and then he went to late 426 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: night and I, you know, I love Dave and rich 427 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: Hall that was on the show and all that. So 428 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: I just said, is this something happening here with this 429 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: young comedian kind of thing, this new voice of young people. 430 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: And that's what we did. 431 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: And then we you know, we just it was a 432 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: cabaret and then we turned it into all comedy after 433 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: uh who was the Jay Leno came in? Richard Bells 434 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: and Jerry so Gary Shamling. 435 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: She's doing it again. She's trying no look look on 436 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: the floor and more names I've been dropped so Gandhi. 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: Did you ever have a chance to go to Caroline's 438 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: on Broadway? Yes, I've been, Okay, you know, the original 439 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: one was at Seaport, right, I mean eight an eight 440 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: eighth Avenue, and then the Seaport, and there was the 441 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Seaport and then on Broadway, and a lot of people 442 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: are where what happened? Where did Carolines go? Comedy is 443 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: still there? How come Carolines isn't there anymore? 444 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: Well, we're not. 445 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: You know, we're here. We're here, We're at the New 446 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: York Comedy Festival. We've got to answer comedy live. We're 447 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: working on other projects and who knows where. 448 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: We have a feeling you're not honest? 449 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: All well, having a business, having a business in any 450 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: building in New York City has to be a very 451 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: very challenging thing. But Carolines, you know, I'm looking at 452 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: your your logo right here on the street of paper. 453 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: It's still it's still one hundred percent on fire. And 454 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: that's why if you're not living here, but you can 455 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: fly in that That New York Comedy Festival date to 456 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: look at the dates to look at November eighth of 457 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: the seventeenth. Another reason to come to New York. Come 458 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: see some comedy. If you go to NY Comedy Festival 459 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: dot com. Get those tickets now, because they're gonna roll. 460 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: They're gonna roll fast. 461 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 4: And we'll be adding other shows and announcing and setting 462 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: dates and places for you know. We're doing a lot more, 463 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 4: a lot more big announcements coming up. 464 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, we love you, Caroline, Greg, love you, love you all. 465 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. 466 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: No, we love you more. Actually sorry, we love you more. 467 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: We kind of went We win this one. We win video, Greg, Charles, 468 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: Caroline Hurst, thank you for coming in you love Thank 469 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: you very much