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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Black Autips Podcast, your host Rod

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Speaker 2: and Karen.

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Speaker 3: We're live on.

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Speaker 2: A Monday, Memorial Day, Monday and also Africa Day's birthday and.

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Speaker 3: Our special guest Mama's Birthday.

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Speaker 2: It's our girl, Ray Sni, who you guys may know

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Speaker 2: from you know, writing on the President's Show. You might

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Speaker 2: know her from her own stand up. You might know

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Speaker 2: her from a Black Girl Sketch show. I just feel

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Speaker 2: like she's she's doing so much. What's going on right?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Hi? I didn't mean to interrupt your intro, but Africa

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Speaker 1: Day and my Nigerian Mama mistake, you know, nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that?

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Speaker 3: You know, we love the excitement.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You look great in the yellow and every you know,

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Speaker 3: how you've been, how you've been?

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Speaker 2: You know, we last time we talked to you was

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Speaker 2: October twenty nine, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Is the last time you were on the show career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's been a while, man, So like what

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Speaker 2: you've been up to for the last about three two

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Speaker 2: and a half years.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I've been terribly devastated by the political state of

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Speaker 1: our country. And I've been hating Los Angeles passionately and

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Speaker 1: I'm fucked. That's what's been happening. I'm fucked.

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Speaker 3: How do you like?

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Speaker 2: How do you like it compared to back home? Though

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Speaker 2: New York, like especially in like the pandemic. Is it

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Speaker 2: less stressful than you think it would be back home?

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Speaker 2: Because I know New York is like the epicenter.

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Speaker 1: Yo. New York is fucking crazy. Like I talked to

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Speaker 1: my parents whole the time, and they be like they're

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Speaker 1: really scared. Like my mom is older, you know, compromised,

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Speaker 1: and she works with older people, so it's just like ooh,

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Speaker 1: and you know she was very ill last year, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, I'm I it was crazy because I

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Speaker 1: had a move date. My move back to New York

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Speaker 1: was March twenty fifth. True story. I'm sitting here on

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Speaker 1: a fucking coupon from Delta to fly back or whatever.

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Speaker 1: All my shit is in storage, Like I'm here in like, uh,

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Speaker 1: what is it like? Furnished housing, corporate housing, overpaying rent

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Speaker 1: like COVID really bodied any plans, Like my plan was

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Speaker 1: to go back to New York and become a stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy legend, but it just didn't have it that way,

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Speaker 1: you know, And now I'm just like stuck, you know,

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Speaker 1: in La, like trying to get acclimated. I guess the

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Speaker 1: problem with LA is that I don't know how to drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm a native New Yorker, never learned how to drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm a subway ass bitch. And LA is such a

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Speaker 1: car city, so I feel lonely isolated that.

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Speaker 5: Kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But LA is an amazing place for quarantine to happen

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Speaker 1: because nobody's outside except for people at the beach suddenly.

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Speaker 1: And I'm African, so we wasn't doing that anyway, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't know, I just feel I just want to.

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Speaker 2: And what about like and then with the driving, I

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Speaker 2: think it's better for quarantine stuff. Is everybody get their

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Speaker 2: were listening to one of the quarantine bops yesterday and

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Speaker 2: the guy was talking about how he was going to

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Speaker 2: get on the highway and go see his boot and

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Speaker 2: they was going to quarantine together, and you know, at first,

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Speaker 2: it was like.

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Speaker 3: No, don't do that. No I thought of it. I

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Speaker 3: was like, that's not that dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Like if he's if he's social distancing and he wants

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Speaker 2: house and they quarantine shack up, like that could work.

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Speaker 1: My homegirl just was like texting me the other day.

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Speaker 1: She's like, Yo, I'm going to Florida for Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to come through when I get back?

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, man, I'm lonely enough risk it, wow,

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. I was like, use condoms,

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Speaker 1: wear a mask, and come see your girl on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Like I listen, I am so bored and lonely. Maybe

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Speaker 1: having COVID would be exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's like I need something.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Like I'm a call that's you know, that sounds

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Speaker 1: like somebody else conversing with me. You know, my sister

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Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, it's at least two weeks worth

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Speaker 2: a tweet material, maybe even more going through the whole process,

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Speaker 2: you know, like all today, coughing a little bit harder

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Speaker 1: Exactly, but I smoked so much weed that I can't

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Speaker 1: even play risk it, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 1: I am not asthmatic, nothing like that, but I will

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Speaker 1: say the one good thing about Los Angeles is the

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Speaker 1: availability availability of marijuana, And like truly, I turned into

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Speaker 1: like like it's so fucking lame to be suddenly a

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Speaker 1: stoner at thirty two, Like that is so fucking corny. Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like I'm discovering drugs like a fifteen year old, you

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Speaker 6: Guys, it's not corny. It's not corny at all. I

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Speaker 6: tell people the Dair drug program worked on me. So

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Speaker 6: I was one on people. I was like, say no

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Speaker 6: like a complete square. So you know, I understand how

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Speaker 6: people can get into when when they're older, because they

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Speaker 6: tell you that is not good for you.

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Speaker 1: What era what era of there? Cause were you like

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Speaker 1: the when they came to your school or was it

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Speaker 4: We were early we were both a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We was more of.

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Speaker 4: We got the this is your brain, it's your brain

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Speaker 6: Commercials, but we got like the almost it'll come to

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Speaker 6: your school. We went through a program. You graduated, they

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Speaker 6: gave you certificates.

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Speaker 3: They played videos and the video made it sound like

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Speaker 3: drug dealers are gonna rape you in the bathroom.

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Speaker 4: Didn't it. It's not it sound like you were.

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Speaker 6: Gonna slowly open up the bathroom dough and like these strange,

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Speaker 6: shadowy figures just gonna turn around. It was just go

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Speaker 6: like I'm gonna shove these drugs up your hands. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they just had you paranoid.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny, Because so I don't so, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have a weird kind of pop culture like blind spot

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Speaker 1: because maybe like when I was like, oh like three

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Speaker 1: of the early nineties. But then I remember just kind

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Speaker 1: We would just be watching OZ when I was seven,

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Speaker 1: which was wildly inappropriate. But like, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it like that that they needed to come scare you

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Speaker 3: It was like that in some places.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously knew Jackson is a little bit of exaggeration,

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Speaker 2: but it's based on real shit.

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Speaker 3: But it was. I mean it was a fact.

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Speaker 4: Academic was real.

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Speaker 6: Like our generation like live through that where you had

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Speaker 4: A lot of people had a lot of their family

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Speaker 4: members that will own drugs.

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Speaker 6: So a lot of it was we're trying, we want

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Speaker 6: to quote unquote scare straight, which doesn't really work, but

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Speaker 6: they wanted to scare the kids into not doing the drugs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people didn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was not far fast for you to

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Speaker 2: know people in your family that was on drugs, correct.

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Speaker 2: I know I had them, you know. So it was

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Speaker 2: like it's one of the reasons that I'm always like,

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Speaker 2: I don't it's not funny, but I like ironic when

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Speaker 2: you hear when you hear people say shit like you know,

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Speaker 2: the ninety four Crime Bill and super Preduds and the shit.

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, but I was a loted for that,

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Speaker 2: Like I remember that time motherfuckers were scared. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like a diabolical plan. The ship was like,

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Speaker 2: we need a solution, Like you can't just leave motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: to the streets and be like it'll work its way.

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Speaker 2: Out and like all the fucking woke ass people at

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Speaker 2: the time were like, we gotta do something, Like even

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Speaker 2: the activists and shit, nobody was like against the program.

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Speaker 2: The people that was against it was like woke white

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Speaker 2: people and shit that was like this ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 2: How y'all think it is, But like black people was like, motherfucker,

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Speaker 2: they are killing innocent kids.

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Speaker 3: Coming home from school? What do you want us to do?

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Speaker 2: So that it was serious and I think that and

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Speaker 2: then my dad heavily influenced me because he would be like,

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Speaker 2: you're a blackmail And by the time you got it.

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Speaker 1: That young, you got that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have.

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Speaker 4: To because you be like, yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: Particularly with boys and girls, particularly boys, boys.

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Speaker 4: Are aged up. Girls are aged up too, but boys

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Speaker 4: are really aged up. The second they're no longer cute.

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Speaker 6: They're considered a man, regardless of their size and height.

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Speaker 6: They aged them up, just like they aged the girls up.

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Speaker 2: Well, my dad told me he would say, you have

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Speaker 2: something like if you can make it to twenty one,

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Speaker 2: like the odds are you making at twenty one is

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Speaker 2: something like you have like a chance of either being

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Speaker 2: got like I got. He's like, my only job is

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Speaker 2: you just gotta beat the odds, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: because he was like the ship was so real, like

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Speaker 3: Out the streets, keeping you, you know, in school.

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Speaker 2: All that kind of shit. And I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: the motherfucker start fucking with drugs and so it's but

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Speaker 2: we've watched it change over the course of our life too,

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Speaker 2: because now, like fucking with drugs for black people is

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Speaker 2: not the death sentence.

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Speaker 3: That didn't seem to be back there, right.

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Speaker 4: No, No, And I.

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Speaker 1: So crazy to me because uh, I grew up in

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Speaker 1: in East New York, and we was in the fucking Gutta.

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Speaker 1: But because they so African and because we were Muslim,

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Speaker 1: it was like the myth school home, so we didn't

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Speaker 1: really mingle, you know. And I feel like I'm protected

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Speaker 1: in a little bit of a way, Like my brother

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Speaker 1: got conversations, but he didn't get the I gotta get

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Speaker 1: to twenty one conversation. God forgives them. But my parents

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Speaker 1: was like, don't be like these Americans out here, you

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Speaker 1: my father and then he became the pro blackest nigga.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my father.

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Speaker 1: My father was a cab driver and he told me

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Speaker 3: But that's that's that's what happens though.

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Speaker 3: You're chocolate chip in a fountain of fucking vanilla.

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Speaker 2: Right, You go to the schools, you get the quote

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Speaker 3: Like what you do to get here with us?

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Speaker 4: Like like why are you still hanging around white flighty chat?

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Speaker 2: It was wasting your whiteness, right, you your privilege up somehow, And.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say super New York.

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Speaker 6: Like we're forced actually forced to live together. Yes, racism

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Speaker 2: And I'm not racist, you're different, you know, but these niggas,

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Speaker 3: Of course, I think I'm.

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Speaker 1: Still learning shit, to be honest with you, Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Like when when white dudes was the

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Speaker 1: It's so weird to to to reconnect with black men

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Speaker 4: This is like, this is the ship.

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Speaker 6: And I think for me Ray Signing, when we was

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Speaker 4: Like that, I am.

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Speaker 6: And it's weird, but I think I have a quote

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Speaker 1: Wait now, I'm curious when did you lean in on nigga?

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Speaker 1: Because I remember when I was like, who, when did

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: For me, ever since I've been small, my family has

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, like my my family.

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Speaker 6: That is for me, nigger didn't have this bad thing

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Speaker 4: How you doing, my nigga? You my nigga? Like it

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Speaker 1: In a like even adults were staying around here.

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Speaker 6: Yes, adults like nigga, get your ass up and get

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Speaker 4: But I nigga did not tell you to do your homework,

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Speaker 4: So for me, I don't have the.

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Speaker 6: Same negative feeling towards it because for me, it was

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Speaker 6: it could be negative too, but like this, Nigga's one

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're cool. Then you pronounce certain way. It's fighting words,

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Speaker 1: If you i's only time you say niggas when you

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Speaker 1: say something negative. Yes, right, that's interesting because I had

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Speaker 1: why would we call ourselves a terrible say? And then

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Speaker 1: all my homies were like nigga. We say nigga around here,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know what you were talking about. And truly,

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Speaker 1: I don't have like a philosophy. I don't have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I grew up with it.

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Speaker 2: And my dad he was like a really he made

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Speaker 2: You know, he was like, you know, ain't a word,

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00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing. But my dad really

438
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: loved comedy, like and still does.

439
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: And then niggas is everywhere in comedy exactly and so

440
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: and they used to make him laugh. I used to laugh.

441
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: I get asthma attacks, and it was like this special

442
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: time in the house where it would be like, you know,

443
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: I still remember like I almost died because of Damon

444
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Wayne's stand up, Like I almost fucking die.

445
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: I had an asthma tax so is this wait?

446
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: But also he would kill you without the asthma. The

447
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: nigga is a legend and he's so underrated. And I

448
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: really really really don't get me started on stand up.

449
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on black stand up because we

450
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: could go.

451
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that and that stand up specially one

452
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: of the greatest for.

453
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: Me period, like of all time, Like really yeah, I

454
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: still like.

455
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: Top five that that special was definitely up there because,

456
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: like like I said, that ship it was one of

457
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: those things where like multiple times I was like, well,

458
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: I guess I have to go to the bathroom and

459
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: have an asthma attack.

460
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: Uh So my parents will let me finish watching this.

461
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: So uh, but I used to watch my dad really

462
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: like that was the time where he really it didn't

463
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: matter that they weren't talking proper what they were very funny.

464
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: It was making him laugh. And I remember being like,

465
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: I want to be funny. I want to make people

466
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: laugh wan and make my dad laugh. I want to

467
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 2: make people feel the way these people make me feel.

468
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: And then also there was a certain level of license

469
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: that they got that was freedom to be like, yeah,

470
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: he can say nigga and it's not bad.

471
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, what, Like, I'm like.

472
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 2: Cause you know, that's like, don't say this, don't say that.

473
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: But then Eddie Murphy's on and now he's saying all

474
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: the things you say not to say.

475
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I want to.

476
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: Say those things and I want to do those things,

477
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know when to man.

478
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Not just that he's saying all the things you said

479
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: I can't say, but you love you.

480
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: Love it, you love it, And so that was you know,

481
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 2: so I realized then, like, oh, he's trying to raise

482
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: me a right way. But then there's this whole other

483
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: undercurrent because also it was so black, right, like as

484
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: much as he loved like Carling all these other people,

485
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: there's just something else about the black people, and so

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: it was so black and it was like a black currency.

487
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: So we go to school and I would talk like that.

488
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: All my friends talk like that, you know, like we

489
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: was looking at deaf comedy jam all that shit. So

490
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: for up, for me, it wasn't really like a conscious

491
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: like choice. I do remember at some point I think

492
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 2: I went to college and when I came back, I

493
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, so I say nigga now and

494
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: I cuss.

495
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: So I don't know what.

496
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, like like I never I didn't have

497
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: the I didn't have them, and my parents is like

498
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: my nigga, you know, like you graduated in too, the

499
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: fraternity of Nigga Doom or whatever. But it was funny

500
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: though because I don't I never had like fear though,

501
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: because I know a lot of black people talk about

502
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: like I don't cuss around my parents. I don't say

503
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: the N word. It wasn't like that, Like that's a

504
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: different experience than mine. So it's not like I was

505
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: worried like if I say nigga, my parents are gonna

506
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: hit me or some ship. It was just more like

507
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: out of respect and whatnot. But they say it too

508
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: and they listen to the show.

509
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: So how mom, how Dad? So? But anyway, you also

510
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: have a new podcast.

511
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I have a new podcast. I have a new podcast,

512
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited. My uh my, like I've done

513
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: so many You've been on this journey with me. Ron,

514
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for being a good friend throughout. Thank you

515
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: for being a good friend. I care h I uh.

516
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with reality TV. Anybody who knows me

517
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: knows It's what I wear on my front the way

518
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: people are gamers. I'm a reality TV person and I've

519
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: been obsessed with the Real World since i was a

520
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: wee kid. And you know, it's evolved into the Challenge.

521
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: The Real World road was Challenge, and so now it's

522
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: just the Challenge because the both the Real World and

523
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: Road Rules are canceled, but the Challenge is still on

524
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: and they still have people from way back then and

525
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: they have people they bring in from like Big Brother Survivors.

526
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Very crazy now. But my friend Jack Keith Neil, who

527
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: is a podcast host for this podcast called Coach of

528
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Kings and he's an actor of comedians but I'm grown,

529
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: is you know shit like that, you know, la shit,

530
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: la shits. But we just get on and we talk

531
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: about the challenge and truly, like I've been doing a

532
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: lot of podcast stuff in my days, me and Marshall

533
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out for quarantine time and stuff.

534
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: But truly, honestly, just talking about the challenge is the

535
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: most fucking fun I've had in a long time, because

536
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: there's a freedom talking about TV that you don't have

537
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: with other things. Obviously, because I'm a negress and Jacqueith

538
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: is a black man, we ject race and gender, you know,

539
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: observations that people like us can't escape. But it's just

540
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: so fucking fun to have a source material that one

541
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: to be as fucking straightforward and not layered as possible,

542
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: as misogynistic as the season has been. And it's so

543
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: nice to like put race into something, to put gender

544
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: into something instead of like looking up and fucking Joe

545
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Biden telling me I ain't black or whatever. It's just like,

546
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: it's so nice to be the one to put it.

547
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: On someone, right. I think.

548
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: Also, I was talking to Justin about this, because Justin

549
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: is his favorite thing is reality TV.

550
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: He watched all the He's.

551
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: Always fussed about loving hip hop or whatever, and I'm like, yes,

552
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Justin just is my favorite. By the way, I know,

553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: disrespect y'all. I love me.

554
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a lot. He loves throves you.

555
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I love it.

556
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: I know that's everyone loves it. That's that's the thing

557
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: we were talking about it. I was like, you know,

558
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: the thing that reality shows gives everyone that nothing else

559
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: really can give us anymore is the ability to judge

560
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: people loudly and in public, like they're selling judgment.

561
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Like what they're really selling you.

562
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Is like why these people do stupid shit that you,

563
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: you know, in a more polite, nice time, you wouldn't

564
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: say anything, or you'd be like, this is their choice,

565
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: or you know, like it doesn't matter how fucking liberal

566
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: you are, doesn't matter how conservative you are.

567
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: When you see a motherfucker get drunk.

568
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: And do something stupid, you get to be disgusted with them.

569
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: And that's what they're selling you. They're like, they don't

570
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: mind that you're disgusted.

571
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, you are a fucklutely right. You are absolutely right.

572
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: And it's very strange because I am very protective from

573
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: reality stars, and I understand that they're sole purpose are

574
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: scorn to be the object of ours scoring. So I'm

575
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: in a couple of Facebook groups. Shut up. I don't

576
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: want to hear it. Shut up. I'm in Bravo Facebook groups.

577
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Shut up. And what will happen is a couple of

578
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: times I'll like go in and they're all white women.

579
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: They're always all white women, and I'll go in, like

580
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: this morning, I went into the Facebook group and like,

581
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: it'll be a screenshot of this random person sending the

582
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: nastiest message to this reality TV star and I have

583
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: to go in and be like, you don't know these things, right, jo? Okay,

584
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: can you tell me? Sorry, I'm very high. Can you

585
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm crazy? Because I feel like I'm

586
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: taking crazy pills. But this is obvious to me. A

587
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: woman drove into a neighborhood in LA and took a

588
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: picture of the front of a reality star's house and

589
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: in the picture is the both of their cars with

590
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the full license place in view. And she was like, oh,

591
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I went to so and so's homes and uh, you know,

592
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: we were just driving around the neighborhood and a couple

593
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: of us were like, bitch, you weird, And everybody else

594
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: in the group is piling on me. I'm like, no,

595
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: this is psycho, right, this is psycho. I'm like like

596
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: they were like, and one person legitimately said, oh, these

597
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: people talk about their STDs on camera. It's not a

598
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: fucking crazy thing for me to And I'm like, I

599
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: can tell you whatever the fuck I want to tell you,

600
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: by my pussy. You don't get to drive by my

601
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: motherfucking house and take a picture of my front door

602
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: and my fucking cars.

603
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Are you not?

604
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: You just posted this in a Facebook group of thousand thousands.

605
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: I'm crazy because people think.

606
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: People think that they have the right, they think they

607
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: own these people. It's a certain dollar amount, yeahs.

608
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 4: That you don't know.

609
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: It's I don't know what the dollar amount is, but

610
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 6: everybody has this imaginary dollar amount in their mind, and

611
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 6: they think, once you reach that dollar amount, whatever the

612
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 6: dollar amount, that e I deem too much, whatever I

613
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 6: deem too much, whatever that dollar amount is, all of

614
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: a sudden, your rights don't matter.

615
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, your privacy doesn't matter.

616
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter to me because I feel like I

617
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: own the right to you because this is what you

618
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: want it when you cross whatever that threshold is.

619
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: And that's not true.

620
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 6: Sometimes people are talented, and their talents get them this money.

621
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 4: I some people, so purpose isn't to get rich. They

622
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: just happen to get be rich.

623
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: But for some people, they think because you got rich,

624
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 6: you want it to get rich.

625
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: And because that is so crazy that you mentioned that,

626
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: because I so woman, she was just like, well, I

627
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: was like, you would be terrified if someone took the

628
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: picture of you the front door and put it in

629
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: a Facebook group. And she was like, well, when people

630
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: pay me to put my life on TV, then I'll

631
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: have this conversation with you. I was like, jealousy is

632
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: a disease. But you're mad because you're paid. You're not

633
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: paid to be on TV, and because you think you

634
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: would do better with that money, you want to violate

635
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: these people who aren't doing the thing with the money

636
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: that you want them to do. And I'm like, I'm

637
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: just in this place right now. I hate reducing things

638
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: to jealousy because jealousy sounds like it is oversimplified things.

639
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: But jealousy is actually so complex and it's it's the

640
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: root of so many things. And I only recently learned

641
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: this mad because you know, I'm so successful and everything.

642
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: People are fucking people are fucking jealous and they do

643
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: like try to ruin you this, yeah, your life because

644
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: they resent that you have what they think they want.

645
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: They don't even fucking want it. I promise you I

646
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: don't have anything. I have a couple things, I have

647
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: baby things. I've been on the right, I've been on

648
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: the lowest rung of the writing. Fact that people think

649
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: it's popping and you would think that I have everything.

650
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: The way people want to destroy you, it's fucking crazy.

651
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: And then it's not just the dollar amount anymore. It's

652
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: also the fame people amount because you don't know.

653
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: Yes, nobody knows what anybody makes. And I don't think

654
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: anybody actually wants to be rich. I think people want

655
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: to be shouted out when they go out in public,

656
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: but they don't know what comes with that. I've not

657
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: gotten attention, but I've been with niggas who are getting attention.

658
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: And let me tell you that shit is fucking unpleasant.

659
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: Like relax, fucking each to Eggo waffles and have your

660
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: normal fucking life. Like true story. You do not want

661
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: to be no fucking easter Ray. You don't want to

662
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: be no like. You don't want to be in like

663
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: you don't want.

664
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: To be these and when they get like when you

665
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: see people like like get mad at people having check

666
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: marks on Twitter and ship or or Instagram or having

667
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: too many followers and stuff, it's always like this weird

668
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: nbia jealousy and you look at like, what really pushed

669
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: me off of people is looking at folks like political

670
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: practices being really closely related to everyone that's in my

671
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: lane doing better than me. I'm like, wait a minute, exactly.

672
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: How come? How come my ideology specifically everyone who also

673
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: wants to write in television.

674
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: Just a problem with America. This is this is what's

675
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: bringing us down.

676
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: This is a heel that you're willing to die on.

677
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 6: But to go back with what you was saying, Sweetie,

678
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 6: I think for me when it comes to that famous part,

679
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: people don't know what these people had to do with

680
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: the sacrifices they would like, They don't know. They just

681
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 6: assume that's something that they want.

682
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: But guess what.

683
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 6: The average person can walk outside the house and live

684
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 6: their lives and nobody will never know who they are.

685
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 6: These people the second they open their front door, they

686
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 6: are recognized. They cannot live a normal life. They can't

687
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 6: go shopping, they can't like they have to have bodyguard.

688
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: Like people do not realize that what you quote unquote

689
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 6: have to give up in order to have this particular

690
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 6: level of fame. And it's very lonely there being there

691
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 6: when you know that you can't live this normal life.

692
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen to us, Sure I do.

693
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: But I do want to be careful. I'm not out here,

694
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, sympathizing more for like Beyonce than the homeless

695
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: na on the street.

696
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody, I'll think anybody.

697
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: No, no, I was gonna say.

698
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: I was listening to quest Love of Supreme show and

699
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: it was an episode with the Lounge on there. It's

700
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: a really great episode Bute was talking about. They were

701
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: talking about Prince and how everyone thinks they want to

702
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: be Prince, but Prince would be fucking miserable sometimes because

703
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: it was like they go to a hotel, He's stuck

704
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: in the hotel.

705
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: He can't do ship, you know what I mean.

706
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: So like it's like you're better off being like someone

707
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: in the crew, someone in the band, because those people

708
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: like you get the best the best of words, right, yes, you.

709
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Read all the better, get all the group means who

710
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: want to fuck you on your way to Prince, and

711
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay princess bills, and you don't

712
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: have to perform princess sets, and you don't have to

713
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: show up for Prince's obligations. Like I totally, totally, totally

714
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: understand that, Like there's nothing, there's nothing I want less

715
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: on the planet than to be so famous. I can't

716
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: go outside. That sounds to you, I got to sneak

717
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: like Beyonce. It's gotta go to fucking gas stations for

718
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: a thrill. That sounds fucking insane, that sounds fucking crazy.

719
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: I want to be able to just go to Chick

720
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: fil a. God forgive me gay people. I want to

721
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: go to Chick fil a, no problem, Like I don't

722
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: want it to be an issue. We got a sneak

723
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: pictures and post on Twitter, you know what I mean

724
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: if I like order from White cast or some shit.

725
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: Like I've been thinking. I haven't really found the full

726
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: thought on this, but at some point people turned from

727
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: like regular fans and enthusiasm shit into like now everybody

728
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: or not everybody. A lot of people act like the

729
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: woman who kills Selena, like they think that like that's

730
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: what normal is for being a fan now it's you know,

731
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: I think.

732
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: Culture is the worst thing that's happened to us, and

733
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: for us to have reclaimed the term that's down started

734
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: out so crazy.

735
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: It's nuts.

736
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: It's nuts. Like somebody reminded me yesterday that fan did

737
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: drive himself off for Breaded Roddy and Eminem hadn't even

738
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: seen the letters yet. Like that crying that is that

739
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: is nuts. That is absolutely fucking nuts. I mean like

740
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: it's always been kind of bubbling in the back of

741
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: my mind, but all the hype over Normani last year

742
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: was the breaking point for me. I was just like,

743
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: because because uh, okay, I'm ana whisper this. I just

744
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: feel okay about normal. But it was so overwhelming, Like

745
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: that motivation video came out and I was like, yeah,

746
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: she's a beast set dancing, but none of this is

747
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: inspired and I don't enjoy her voice particularly It's just

748
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: a perfectly fine pops off and I would never I

749
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: have given it a negative review. I appreciate a doky

750
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: and shorty doing her things, so I would never be

751
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: like Normani is terrible. But I also was like, I

752
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: it is absurd that on my own platform, I am

753
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: scared to feel okay about it all wow, and then

754
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: like I saw Cardi B posting Normany this you don't

755
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: even know Normany And then it was like it was

756
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: like all these like celebrities feeling obligated to celebrate her,

757
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: and then the fandom being like kill cause Miller because

758
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: she was racist when she was fucking Oh, you're gonna

759
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: murder people over this mediocre artist. He's Louise. I don't

760
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: if you want to murder assassinate me over some good

761
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: should I did? You know what I mean? Like I

762
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: was about to ruin your Paris life because it was

763
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: never gonna see art the same way murder me. But

764
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: if it's like it's it's like, oh, what's so on?

765
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: You can hit on the radio and passion, Like how

766
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: do you have the passion? And I realized that it's

767
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: not about the artists or the art anymore. It's about not,

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, belonging, feeling self important, empowerment through these like

769
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: really toxic yeah faces.

770
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Hives.

771
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, I and I I am, we

772
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 6: are in the age of hives, and hives are very dangerous. Oh,

773
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 6: they can be very dangerous because the hives total purpose

774
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 6: is just to protect the queen or whatever they're circling ground.

775
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: That's their whole purpose. Anything that you.

776
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Know even thought about that your absolutely fucking role.

777
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, anything that comes, they attack it. They don't care,

778
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 6: like they can't tell good from bad. They was like

779
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 6: you said something, I got to say something, and they don't.

780
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: They don't care because their whole purpose is to protect

781
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 6: the person that actually don't need protection, but they feel

782
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: like they must want.

783
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: I think that the thing though, right, So not to

784
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: get too deep, but I always do.

785
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: But it's not even I love it. I love it.

786
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: I listen to you every day, you guys.

787
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: It's not even about the person. It's about it's about

788
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: the group. It's not about the person. And like the

789
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: person is a substitute for a reason for them to

790
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: hang out like online virtually. So like that's why, like

791
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: that's why certain people have to be a thing, because

792
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: they have to be a thing because we need a thing.

793
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, I think, you know, like and

794
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: I you know, I have any shade towards nobody.

795
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: I really I didn't even really listen.

796
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, because like that's like like I finally

797
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: hit forty and then I was just like I don't

798
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: have to be involved. Do your thing, y'all have fun,

799
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: So that has nothing to do with me. And people like, oh,

800
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: you haven't heard that song?

801
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: No, and I'm fine, yeah hear it.

802
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, not even in shade. Just no, this

803
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 3: seems like a temporary thing.

804
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: May will pleasantly be surprised in a couple of years

805
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: from now, I'll be like, oh, that's stuck around. But

806
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: for a lot of times, it's just a temporary thing

807
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: because people need to think. And I think another great

808
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: example of this was Doja Cat's return, you know, because

809
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: I know at first she was.

810
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm I have perpetrayed that return I thought. I thought.

811
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: I thought that the reaction to the first misstep was

812
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: an overreact.

813
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: Me too, me too, And I mean she did apologize,

814
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: and I read the apologizes.

815
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good apology. It just don't matter.

816
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: You know, once motherfuckers decide they don't fuck with you,

817
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: you could literally come to their house and suck every

818
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: person's dig by yourself and they're still gonna be online,

819
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: like like, I don't believe it. Her pr agents made

820
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: her do that, so don't so I don't. I don't

821
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: really go for all that ship, I don't care, but

822
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: the resurgence of it. The reason I was I was

823
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: interested in or I saw it so much is because

824
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: this time people was kind of branding it behind like

825
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: black girl magic type ship. Same thing happened with nor

826
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: Mind when yes, it was like it was like because

827
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: she got a number one with Nikki, and all of

828
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, it was like, look at all these black

829
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: women with number one. I was like, y'all hate Nikki.

830
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: Y'all said she married a rapist.

831
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: To go back to your point about it being a

832
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: group online and not like somewhat related to the identity

833
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: of the person who they're standing, but mostly about being

834
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: in a group. Nikki's fans hate her husband. They don't

835
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: want her to be married no more.

836
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: They would be to me what you say exactly.

837
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: So it's not even like, uh oh, we stand everything

838
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: you do. It's it's like we want to control everything

839
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: because everybody wants to want Nikki to divorce the husband.

840
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: Me too. Secretly, I'm not gonna lie that niggas sounds crazy,

841
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: but if but like I don't want to beyond to

842
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: divorce jay Z, but also jay Z is my favorite rapper.

843
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: That is it's just they all, they're all the fucking

844
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: woman that kills Selena.

845
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: Man, it's crazy, like like that's the.

846
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: One thing I'm really understanding how we're celebrating this, Like

847
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: it's ultimately mentally deviated behavior.

848
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the only thing that I'm not the

849
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: only thing, but it's one of the things I'm really

850
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: glad about growing up in the household I grew up in.

851
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: I just didn't do celebrity worship. So I feel like

852
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: I missed the boat. But but I'm glad to not

853
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: be on that fucking boat because I don't.

854
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: Really get disappointed in people either.

855
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: Like so when Doja Cat fucks up, I'm like, weren't

856
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: weren't were we really making her a theme thing?

857
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Like we didn't think she was gonna be president.

858
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: We just thought she made music and had a fat

859
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: ass Like it wasn't like a fucking movement.

860
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: But I think there's not proper context to these things.

861
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 2: Well this is what I was gonna say, So look

862
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: at like because this happened with Cardi and like it

863
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: made me caution against it. I don't because I always

864
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: ended up bracing for people that I actually do like

865
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: people's people that like her shit didn't funnel their politics

866
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: into her shit, right, So then it's like she can't

867
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: be a nigga that raps.

868
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: And receiving who she actually.

869
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: Is right now.

870
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: She gotta be an intersectional woman, this socialist blah blah blah.

871
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: And it's like that's kind of cool that you want

872
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: her to think to express that, but then when she doesn't,

873
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: now we have to have like the you know, open

874
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: letter to Cardi B.

875
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: And it's like that part of you being crazy, that's

876
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: not her being crazy. She didn't change or do nothing.

877
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: She didn't tell you to be like ball hooks and

878
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: Cardi B said she didn't tell y'all to do that.

879
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: You did that, and now we have to have this

880
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: fucking discussion. I don't like that shit.

881
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: Well we you know, because ultimately we be lying. We

882
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: be lying about who we are, we be lying about

883
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: who other people are, and we just lying ask niggas,

884
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know I'm trying to lie in like

885
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: the other day. You know, obviously I'm not part of

886
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: this community, so I feel kind of records talking about it.

887
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: But Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga, actually, fuck it, they

888
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: both women I could talk about them. But Ariana Grande

889
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: and Lady g Got put out a song together called

890
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: rain on Me the other day, and I listen. I'm

891
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: a television writer in Los Angeles. Literally every person I

892
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: know is a white gay person. I all my white

893
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: gay friends is like, ah, that song was killing it,

894
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: rain on Me. So I go looking for this song. Nigga,

895
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: when I tell you, the shit was mid, the shit

896
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: was fucking mad. I can shot this song out like

897
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: it was so wag, like it was so corny. And

898
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching all of these people lie to

899
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: me about how good a song this is. And these

900
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: are people that I respect. I know they have good

901
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: taste because I've talked to them, converse about things, We've

902
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: worked on things together. And it's so embarrassing to watch

903
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: people feel like they gotta lie about some shit. And

904
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's proximity to success. Like true story,

905
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: I like and friends. I'm not famous. I am the

906
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: friend of the friend of the friend of the famous person,

907
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: and I'm watching my friends try to climb up and

908
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: get to famous, and I'm seeing the behavior change before

909
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: I have the opportunity to be too swept up in it.

910
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: But like, you know, see that shit, and it's just

911
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: so wild to me because I can shoot you a

912
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: text right now be like nigad know you know that

913
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: and they'll be like yeay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but

914
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: I want so and so on my podcast I want.

915
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: And it's a game.

916
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: It's a game, and it's it's just very interesting because

917
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: you never I don't think I anticipated social media is

918
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: turning us into brand of beest people when we aren't

919
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: even brands, but we like I even like I'm not

920
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: even going front. There are things that purposely don't comment on,

921
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and even still I comment too much, Like I called

922
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: somebody a coon last summer and HBO was pressed, so

923
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like it's really like.

924
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: You gotta be well, you know, like the other Sometimes

925
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the whites though, because there was

926
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: a time when they like corny shit and nobody could

927
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: tell them you know what I'm saying, Like they the

928
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: tools to get to them to let them know, like, Yo,

929
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: this thing that y'all are going to give a reward

930
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: two at the MTV Music Awards, it's actually trash and

931
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: nobody fucks with it.

932
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 3: But y'all they don't have that anymore so now.

933
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: So now when they try to make something happen, be

934
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: on their ass right away. They don't even get like

935
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: a day to be like, yo, this is the ship

936
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: everybody like.

937
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: Right, They don't never get they can't have ship no more.

938
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: We be on their ass now. It's so different for them.

939
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: Man, oh so you didn't like watching let me get.

940
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: It'd be so serious in the street.

941
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 3: It's a vest man.

942
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: But like so like they like, that's definitely a new

943
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: phenomenon for them because they had stopped trying to make

944
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: things happen for a while, Like they were like what

945
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: what do you black stink?

946
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: And then if we were like nah boom, they were like.

947
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Fuck it, we're not We're not gonna fuck with it,

948
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: like Igga Zella was doing good for a while, Macamore,

949
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: And then it's like it would trickle down the niggas.

950
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: We'd be like no, no, not good.

951
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: Did you did you watch Day not yet?

952
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm scared. I think it's gonna be good, and

953
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: I'm scared to watch.

954
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: No, my nigga, it is good. And that angry. It

955
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: makes me so angry because they're like there are things

956
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: that they don't in my opinion address well, like little

957
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Dickie's whiteness and the privilege, like they kind of like

958
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: fan services a little bit. They like kind of like

959
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: hell a nigga, Like if we don't talk about this,

960
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: we gonna look crazy. But it's like they're in kind

961
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: of a paradoxical situation because like they can't solve it.

962
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: The nigga is rich and white and has this TV

963
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: show be cookies? Rich and white? Like what can we

964
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: do on the platform that we have because of the privilege?

965
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: But it's excellent, Like I white love it. I love it.

966
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: I love it.

967
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Here's my thing though, Like Shadow and Act did this

968
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: and it was so fucked up when when it first

969
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: came out and they were doing the like is it

970
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 2: probably madic? They were like Kevin Hart's new FX series

971
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: Dave right.

972
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: Because.

973
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: No, people, you know what I learned from working in

974
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: television that you niggas don't know how TV works. It

975
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: makes me so angry. I love the angry. I be

976
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: wanting to shape ship this whole asking for insecure to

977
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: being our.

978
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: Right.

979
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: Also it's like mad hard like because like that's the

980
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: other thing too, people think like like people will right ship,

981
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: Like my favorite is when people write ship that they

982
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: want to show to be and I hate to tell them,

983
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: but the only people that want that are you, Like, no,

984
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: like the reason that Like I remember one time someone

985
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: with a long thing piece that was like, yeah, we

986
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: the character of Kelly Insecure needs to be this, that

987
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: and the other. Matter of fact, I'd watch a show

988
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: about her and it's just her and she's watering her

989
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: plants and she's working out and she's going to work.

990
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: I say.

991
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: Show and not just that, not just that.

992
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: Nobody won't see that show like you.

993
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: It's easy for you to say that because you, like

994
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: you and your household of one thinks you want to

995
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: see that.

996
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: You don't even want to see that. No, you don't

997
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: want to see that.

998
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: Just the reason reality shows are still do fucking great

999
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 2: with ratings because people do want to see this function.

1000
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: They act like they don't.

1001
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: Yet they they act like they don't want to see it.

1002
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: I have this debate with some respectable ass shorty the

1003
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: other day and I was like, you a fucking lie.

1004
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: You're fucking lie because when I mentioned how much I

1005
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: love reality show and I am really good at convincing

1006
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: people of faiths that are toxic that's how my brain works.

1007
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: And so I was explained to her that she wants

1008
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: the television that she keeps telling me she don't. Oh, no,

1009
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want this. And then I

1010
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: mentioned me me from Real Housewives of Atlanta and guess

1011
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: who had an opinion, because the bitch what right. So

1012
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: it's like and but I will say that I love

1013
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: reality TV because I'm of the opinion that equality is

1014
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: getting to be as terrible as everybody else has. The

1015
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: luxury of individualism is that your flaws are yours and

1016
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: they don't they aren't like a shared quality of a

1017
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: group or whatever. And so uh, I was I was

1018
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: like trying to explain to her that I feel like, oh, okay,

1019
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: you know reality TV is, don't We're not turning this

1020
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: into a things peace. Don't go talking about practice here

1021
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: and there, Okay, woman chat or whatever. I just mean that, like,

1022
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: in a space that is dominated by men, as is

1023
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: most things, right, like television writing and character development and

1024
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: things like that, reality is the one place for girls

1025
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: to break out in the way that men don't have

1026
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: control over or don't shape, similar to the way that

1027
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: like men condescend about makeup or modeling as of an industry,

1028
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't let us do the serious,

1029
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: important things they could get masculine for whatever. So we

1030
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: go out and do these things. And I think of

1031
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: reality TV as like, where on fucking Earth does a

1032
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: television show feature fifty year old women being terrible?

1033
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 3: Right?

1034
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: We have all these TV shows like Better Call Saul,

1035
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: the Sopranos, all these middle aged than older men being

1036
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: terrible and being heroes, and we're doing it. But the

1037
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: minute girls want to be terrible on TV, it's trash TV.

1038
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: You don't want it. And then when they go you

1039
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: you're not gonna script us as complicated figures. So we're

1040
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna be complicated ourselves, like in our real life. As

1041
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: they capture people. People want to reject it or whatever whatever,

1042
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's there's an honesty in that, and people

1043
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: love to pretend they don't like it. People don't. They

1044
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: don't engage honestly with anything. And I don't know who

1045
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: we are all performing for, because we also all hate

1046
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: the people we gotta play for. I don't get it

1047
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: eat what's going on.

1048
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 6: And it's really wild though, because truth be told, a

1049
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 6: lot of the people are really quick to tell you

1050
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 6: what they don't like, but they will never tell you

1051
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 6: what they like. Okay, okay, okay, you don't like it,

1052
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: let me hear what you like, because see, if they

1053
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 6: tell you what they like, they know that shit is

1054
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 6: coining to somebody else. Because a lot of people's thing

1055
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 6: is just to go around and tell people that's wrong

1056
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 6: with everything in the world. Because actually the problem ain't me,

1057
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 6: it's you. It's something can you that you're unhappy? So

1058
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 6: you scroll online to bust up in everybody's party and

1059
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: kick over the cake and pop the balloons and kick

1060
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 6: the record play over because you're unhappy.

1061
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing to do with that. And also, uh,

1062
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 4: to piggyback on what you said before.

1063
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 6: I think that when people make these lists, what a

1064
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 6: lot of times what they see is that the it's

1065
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 6: documentaries and motherfuckers, you don't watch them a lot of

1066
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 6: times what they I don't want this and I want it.

1067
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 6: I don't if it's fiction, you want real? Okay, it's

1068
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 6: a lot of real shit out there. It's very boring and.

1069
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: Right.

1070
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 6: So the thing is you lie, like like like you

1071
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 6: just tell them your lies to do all.

1072
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: It's also like teams and ship like correct.

1073
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: And I think people don't want to like upset their

1074
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: team and their social networks and their groups and stuff

1075
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: like that too, because like people like it's like, how

1076
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: can I say that I'm for all this positivity? But

1077
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: then if I watch Insecure and Molly and East are

1078
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: arguing and I'm tuning in every week and I'm live

1079
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: tweeting it and I'm talking about it five fucking days

1080
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: of the week on my social media, I have to

1081
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: be like, I hate this, this is terrible.

1082
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: Why can't they just get along? Cause nigga has nothing

1083
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: they talk about.

1084
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: If they get along, that's not a show, Like, that's

1085
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: no show. These niggas show up, have self care Sunday

1086
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: every week and nothing goes wrong.

1087
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 3: It's the lowest rates show on TV. No one watches it.

1088
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: It never gets renewed, So like that that whole idea

1089
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: is stupid, Like you need the drama to make it work.

1090
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: And I think with one of the things right reminded

1091
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: me about where reality TV was. I remember when, like

1092
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: remember when anytime an NBA player dates are Kardashian, we

1093
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 2: always have to have this thing where like people feel

1094
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: like they need to clarify that the guy is a

1095
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: serious NBA player.

1096
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so you might.

1097
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Think I'm sorry to cut you off. I feel very

1098
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: passionately about this. Remember when Lamar got caught in that

1099
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: fucking brothels and Scott THEMPELP did a fucking whole fucking

1100
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: thing about how the Kardashians ruined Lamar, Like Lamar hadn't

1101
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: been an attic since he was fucking eighteen years old.

1102
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: God lost, God lost his freshman year in fucking Vegas.

1103
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: But it was suddenly Chloe's problem. Suddenly Chloe made him dangerous.

1104
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm like nigga, you are writing whole storylines about a

1105
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: nigga throwing a ball in a hoop. We are just

1106
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: a shallow You are justice shallow. Don't play with me

1107
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: like this. This is fucking crazy. And listen, I love

1108
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: NBA ball, I love NBA ball. I am a god

1109
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: forsake and cursed Nicks fan from since I am five

1110
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: years old. Don't play with me. It's the same shit,

1111
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: the same part of me that wants to talk about

1112
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: Chloe and Jim and I hate Chloe and Clinton, but

1113
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I be talking about him because I'm a mess too.

1114
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: But the same shorty who wants to talk about the

1115
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: people dating them is the same shorty who's watching the

1116
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: man they dating. I cannot belie believe it. I cannot

1117
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: believe it. You guys be whispering and talking and talking

1118
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: and whispering. Oh I heard he's gonna go to this team.

1119
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: I heard he cuts out Stephen Ain't Smith, Oh my

1120
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith was trying to fight with Kevin Durant.

1121
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: The nigga actually plays balls and you are you are

1122
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: called a reporter, but what you do is professionally got

1123
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: about like Kevin. And you gonna say to me what

1124
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I fucking like? Ain't good? Ain't masculine? You as girly

1125
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: as the nigga's come.

1126
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: We just watched at here. We just watched a ten

1127
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: hour XO on.

1128
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 6: Nothing but drama, and all the men were up and

1129
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 6: down the goddamn timeline.

1130
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I.

1131
01:00:54,280 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: Would have just let's sit him back, okay, because you talent?

1132
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: How come this part of the gable for me? You

1133
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: niggas gossip.

1134
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: The people do when they watch reality show TV.

1135
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 6: It's not a difference and so, but for some reason

1136
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 6: they want to separate it like they're different things.

1137
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: Everybody likes gossip. I don't know why people don't believe this.

1138
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 6: Everybody likes gossip.

1139
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: Because if you tell people pod please go tell everybody.

1140
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm tight, I'm okay.

1141
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: The thing that kills me were the people that would

1142
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: correct the headlines and be like, Chris Humphries is a

1143
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: New Jersey Nets NBA professional basketball player. He is not

1144
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: the husband. He's not the husband of uh And I

1145
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: was like, nigga, people in this world know him. You

1146
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: can't you that the numbers approaching.

1147
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: And can you imagine being approaching being a bench player

1148
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: on the net and if it were a fucking senate.

1149
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: And for the record, I am fair, okay, I feel

1150
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: the same way every time they say not to call

1151
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: that woman George White.

1152
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: Same way. One of them, one of them is famous.

1153
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: What is it so mad?

1154
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: She? It's so fucking stupid. It's so fucking stupid. It's

1155
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: what lawyer? Do you know? It's famous for being a lawyer.

1156
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: There's too it's Johnny Cochran and whatever niggas Johnny Cockran

1157
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: is killing with their name. I was in high school

1158
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: with Bashe's daughter. That's why I know who the other

1159
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: person on j case was. Get the fuck out of here,

1160
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny Cochrane and niggas may have gotten your

1161
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: favorite person, you know, Cochran.

1162
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Matt Locke. Okay, there's like like.

1163
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't look at I don't even fucking know.

1164
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: But that's because people be approaching it with their teens.

1165
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: Man like that was the white woman feminist team. That

1166
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: was like, no, she was already. I'm like, nigga know

1167
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: she's George Cooney's wife. And you know why, you know

1168
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: who's okay with that her? Because she's fucking George Cooney.

1169
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: She wants your niggas to know. What's the point of

1170
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: fucking George Cooney? If nobody knows?

1171
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: Come on, what's the point.

1172
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: George Cooney, David forty blonde, yes, twenty in twenty years

1173
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: and we knew all of their names, and we knew

1174
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: that nigga was gonna give them babies. Then George Cooney

1175
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: got married and gave somebody's babies. That's why she's important.

1176
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Come on, people do law? People do law? Unrecognized all

1177
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: the time, Listen, why are we recognizing shorty because she's

1178
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: sitting on the right deck right.

1179
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: She snatched that nigga up.

1180
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: She was the number one priusee. She snatched them up.

1181
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: We gotta give credit words due.

1182
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: We don't want to keep we don't have to keep

1183
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 1: telling her she's popping that she changed her last name.

1184
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: She had a last name, and she changed this including right,

1185
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: so she want us to acknowledge.

1186
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: She knows came she know?

1187
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: Okay, she She's like, oh, I know, I was popping

1188
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: you guys, don't you can stop, you can stop.

1189
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm with Jordie.

1190
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 4: I changed my name too.

1191
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: If I'm a famous civil rights lawyer and I go, wow,

1192
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: i am a famous civil rights lawyer. I'm I'm known

1193
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: internationally for saving refugees, and I'm an un person or whatever.

1194
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: And I meet some white nigga and I take his

1195
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: last name. That's on purpose, that's a choice. Surety was

1196
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: pushing fifty, like.

1197
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: Come, it is what it is now look if you

1198
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: don't want it.

1199
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: There's plenty of famous, rich niggas that I mean, non

1200
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: famous rich people that you know don't look like George

1201
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: Clooney and and is well renowned. But I mean Eve

1202
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: snatched up a dude. We don't know that nigga's name,

1203
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: don't know him with.

1204
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: His name is Maximilian, I don't remember.

1205
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: None of us know his name. We don't. My point

1206
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: is he not the famous one. Eve is the famous one.

1207
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: Okay, she snatched up and she's living comfortable. We don't

1208
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: need to know his name.

1209
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: She don't get if we know his name.

1210
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: He could deliver me a pizza. I be like, Okay, she.

1211
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: Don't give a fuck. She's living comfortable off of that.

1212
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Karen, he would, Karen, he would deliver you a

1213
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: pizza at like two hundred mo for hour.

1214
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: Very Yes, fly you to Italy.

1215
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Tastes like a race car.

1216
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 4: Like.

1217
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: I love, don't be living.

1218
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: I did not know Eve had a job being on

1219
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: TV every day because she don't ever fuck up. She

1220
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 2: she don't want to like views or the show, the Talk,

1221
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: the suit whatever. She on one of those shows, and

1222
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: she's been on that for years. She just don't fuck up,

1223
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: so we never hear about her. You know how hard

1224
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: that is to keep that job and not be fucking

1225
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: up as a black woman, because like that's kind of

1226
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: what they get the black women on there to dudes

1227
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: to be the one who fuck up, so they could

1228
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: be like, oh, we went viral because Whoopy said some

1229
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: crazy shit today, or we went viral because Manda Diva

1230
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: said so crazy shit yo, even on there just minding

1231
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: her motherfucking.

1232
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: And you are fucking hysterical for that. That is hilarious

1233
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: to Ria. You remember that she's Amanda Diva because I'll

1234
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: be trying to be like niggas. Why are you pressed?

1235
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: It's fucking Amanda.

1236
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: Diva right.

1237
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: This weekend, I'm like, yeah, she's corny like Amanda, but

1238
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: he is fucking dope to me. And I'm actually not

1239
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: on some stand ship because we've literally just spent like

1240
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: two hours shing stand culture. It is wild to me

1241
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: because in that conversation, like you said, we like drama again,

1242
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: right in that conversation about female rappers, and we skipped

1243
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: that whole fucking era between Little Kim and Nicky, because

1244
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: there was a whole time where Nicky, excuse me, where

1245
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: even Little Kim overlapped even Passy Brown overlapped even and

1246
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: Funky and down South shorties, Jackie, oh all these people.

1247
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: Eve was popping. I remember my mom corn rolled my

1248
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: hair back for me so I could look like Eve.

1249
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: She wouldn't let me get the yellow weaves because I

1250
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: was eleven, but I was out here and it looks

1251
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: like Eve and Eve went. I remember Eve having hit

1252
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: well into two thousand and two, maybe two thousand and three.

1253
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: So we talking ninety nine to like two thousand and three,

1254
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and nobody talked about us, and.

1255
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: It was rumored that she had a sex tape was

1256
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: ev J, and I remember, no.

1257
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: It's not Nigga. I've seen it. Ceeze J fucking dildo

1258
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: fucked her on tape. And now she's on the talk,

1259
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: like you say, what a legend.

1260
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: A legend like she left.

1261
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: She left that ship behind so easy, doll like it

1262
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: was just like you looked up and it was like, oh.

1263
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: No, Eve Fox billionaires.

1264
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: Now I don't know where you guys have been, but no, no,

1265
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: none of that ghetto.

1266
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: Ship for me. I won't be on love and anything, okay.

1267
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: Hat So I am so astonest that you guys are

1268
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: telling me that she's on the tall.

1269
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: Yes, crazy right, because she don't every day and she

1270
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: don't be. What happened was Karen was getting up early

1271
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: to go to work, and so I was like, let

1272
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: me get up and watch it to the car and

1273
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 2: so I'll come in. I'm already up. I'm like, I

1274
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: guess I'll watch these morning shows or something and do

1275
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: stuff in the background. And then one day I just noticed, like, yo,

1276
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: even is on this show, and I was like.

1277
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 3: I've watched this three or four days in a row.

1278
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: She's just on here.

1279
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: She's smart, she never says anything controversial. How she had

1280
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: this dout like a month? Yeah, I was like, she must.

1281
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: Have had it for like a month smart form.

1282
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 2: And so that was like, Nah, she's been she's been

1283
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: doing that for like two or three years or whatever

1284
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: the fuck.

1285
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: I was like, and she.

1286
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: Ain't never went viral for no dumb ship because that's

1287
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: kind of what they do with the black person on

1288
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: the Joe. It was like, Nah, she just be on

1289
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: there minding her motherfucking business.

1290
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: Someone in the chest that she replaced Tyler.

1291
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, good for her. Man, Like I said,

1292
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: she coming up.

1293
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 3: All right. We this is the longest intro of all time.

1294
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm it's all good. It's all good. We love to

1295
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 2: just get to talking. Now we do have news.

1296
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 3: Okay, we have coronavirus.

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Speaker 2: Me a coronavirus is starting every show with coronavirus segment.

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Speaker 3: Featuring different songs.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what they're gonna sound like.

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: Today's song is, uh, who is this?

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: It looks like no Rose mullet.

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: Okay, coronavirus is called coronavirus.

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: You're about to get some folk folk virus songs.

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: Rose mullet sounds like a white woman who wants to

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: warble over some acoustic guitars.

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01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, I've only I've never listened to any of the

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: songs before we hit play.

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: This one's only a minute long.

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: It's rose mullet, and it's coronavirus parentheses COVID nineteen theme.

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 3: Song, because you know it needs a theme song.

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: Apparently it's just like the Pokemont song, Like what.

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: Is this gonna be?

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit play. Let's see listen.

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 7: This is a public service announcement. The coronavirus is global.

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01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 7: Canti back to knock upside.

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01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,520
Speaker 4: I'm quarantined and I'm so bored.

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01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 7: Got nothing to do but the sure it's gonna go online.

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 7: It's such a tweet, stood up, bead and then repeat.

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 7: So I sit down, Got nothing to do, so I

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 7: step outside and get some food that I enough better

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 7: watch out. It's come for you. Tell me just to dream,

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 7: but I see stand right at me. COVID nineteen, Come

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 7: for me, Coronavibus con right by.

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Speaker 4: Live, I'm scared.

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 7: I wanna se COVID nineteen come from me Coronavibus con

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01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 7: right by Corona Corona Vibus, Corona Coronavibus, Corona Corona virus,

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01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 7: Corona Corona vibus.

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Speaker 3: That was the coronavirus name.

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: So first of all, can I just say that as

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: where as theme songs go like, it's terrible, Yes, I

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01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: just spent my tongue. Theme songs is supposed to be repetitive,

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: so they're sticking people's head. If you think about your

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: favorite theme song from television, they rather repetitive, or at

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: least the song the verses sound like the previous verse.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: So this whole like switching it up on this terrible

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: ed M track. God, you know, I hope this song

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: dies along with Yeah that song because I knew that

1340
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:21,839
Speaker 1: was trouble.

1341
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 2: That song went to one of the Coronavirus Memorial Day parties.

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: So so in two weeks it's gonna be completely gone gone.

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01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: It sounds like the kind of white song that used

1344
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: to be popular, like write at that slight little bump

1345
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: between like the nineties and the eighties where people, yeah,

1346
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 2: where people.

1347
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: Were going to Giza and wearing that stupid shirt and

1348
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: they were.

1349
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 3: Like, you didn't really need to sing the song. Like

1350
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: I remember we graduated talk we had that.

1351
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: One song that was about sunscreen and it was long

1352
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: as fuck and people were playing it.

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: Haven't heard the song? Oh god, it's so terrible.

1354
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: If you only like seven or eight years older than me, why, Like,

1355
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's enough for a close.

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,480
Speaker 3: The clash.

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 8: Where sunscreen.

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 3: If I could offer you.

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01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 8: Vague familiar sunscreen would be it. Long term benefits of

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01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 8: sunscreen have been proved by scientists. Let me get to

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 8: the beat, four pm on some title Tuesday, do one

1362
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 8: thing every day?

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: Is there a charity of Chris Rocks? No one came first.

1364
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Ross came a second, but like this, And

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: then there was also that song which actually is a

1366
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: bop that I don't know the name of it, but

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: the one where it's like.

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01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 3: I will siting at the counter.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the ship, that's the ship. White people got

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: that one right. But the point I have a.

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: Question, do you guys so that okay are there? Did

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01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: you guys chase out white songs or where they're just

1373
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: like white songs that were so popular they got to you.

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my point.

1375
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: There was no methodology at the time to take away

1376
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: white people's things, so white people got to pick some

1377
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: songs and then you just had to fuck with them

1378
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: songs because that's what it was we had.

1379
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: There was no Spotify list.

1380
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: There's this whole career is me.

1381
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 3: You just gotta accept it.

1382
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: And like, I'm Britney bitch and I'm not like I said,

1383
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not trying to cape for the white man. Okay,

1384
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: I'm not. But there was something lost in the cultural

1385
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: exchange that they now don't have any voice when it

1386
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: comes to It's probably like there used to be a

1387
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: time where I'd be like, fuck, they.

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: Got that one, right, I gotta give it up. That's

1389
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: that one.

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 6: Is that one is singing cause you can't tell me

1391
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 6: when was your last?

1392
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: When was your last? Like fuck it, I don't care

1393
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: white black people dragging for this? This my white ship.

1394
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm going up. It was Arianna thank You album for me,

1395
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: Like fuck it, black people, this is my white bitch.

1396
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 4: Because I'm here to tell you right now you couldn't

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 4: tell you.

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: I've never really been one that like cared what the

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: white people did, so I didn't really fuck with them

1401
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: like that, but I think, uh, and then for black folks,

1402
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: like with music, I don't like to talk to about

1403
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: music to folks a lot of times.

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: Because it's so subjective.

1405
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: But I think the last joint that I was like,

1406
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: this is white as fuck and it goes was that was.

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01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: What was the name of that? It's a song that

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: you don't know your beautiful song? That joint?

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, no, this ship is. I was like,

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: this ship is actually good. I don't really care what

1411
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: niggas think. I don't I'm not even gonna seek out

1412
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: to know what niggas think about this because like I

1413
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 2: was like, that's actually about So that was probably the

1414
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: last one.

1415
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: And then Karen and Karen, what was the last time

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: he was like, look, this list is I don't know

1417
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: to tell you.

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01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 4: You know what the same thing that that are.

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01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 6: On the gun day, I was listening to What's the

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 6: Tea and Nick Ju and Reggie was talking about her

1421
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 6: How'm just dropped the neighbors talking about how good it was,

1422
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 6: and I've never really listened. I never really listened to

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 6: any of her music. I was like, you know what,

1424
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 6: let me go check it out. I fucked around the

1425
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 6: push play and I rocked that ship all the way

1426
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 6: to the end.

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: I was like, oh sh my favorite.

1428
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: My favorite is when you find out that other niggas

1429
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: do fuck with it that like, so from my I

1430
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: was huge in the Maroon.

1431
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,799
Speaker 3: Five first like three.

1432
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: Albums, and I remember playing I remember playing that for

1433
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: the chat one day and everybody was like, this is

1434
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: my ship and I was like, wait, it's all our ship.

1435
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 4: We all yeah, but but but.

1436
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: If you do, I'm not even lying to you. Swear

1437
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: to God. The first time I got things to a

1438
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: Maroon Fire song. So they are very, very intimately connected

1439
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: with me and fingers in my ROI.

1440
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to Adam Levine, Okay, come on through, and

1441
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: You's why I didn't even get mad when they didn't

1442
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: have time. Everybody they're like, why are you gonna let

1443
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: them do the Super Bowl halftime?

1444
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I saw some I feel like I

1445
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: saw so many people, myself included being like, listen, my

1446
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: fifteen year old South loved this.

1447
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 9: Niggas.

1448
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm telling you, niggas, you gotta remember this nigga

1449
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: was hating for a political reason. You had jay Z

1450
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: was gonna work with the NFL. Well, first it was

1451
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 2: none of us are gonna work with the NFL because

1452
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: you know they blackball Caepernick. And they're like, well, we're

1453
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: coming to Atlanta. Don't you all want to like have

1454
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta artists? Like, none of you niggas better go over there.

1455
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: I don't give a.

1456
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 2: Fuck who you are, Okay, I don't care if it's

1457
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 2: Jermaine the pre I don't care if it's outcast. Everyone declined,

1458
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: and people was declining and ship, and so they worked

1459
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: down to like.

1460
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll go to ma Room five if

1461
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 3: he was like, oh.

1462
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted cardis there right, and.

1463
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: They're like these black ass white boy I'm tired of

1464
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: this I was getting And I was like, so wait, we.

1465
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: Don't fuck with my room found No more? Is that

1466
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 3: when I'm being led to believe?

1467
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: But this love, this love was.

1468
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1469
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 6: They had the mis you can play from beginning Sunday

1470
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 6: mornings like.

1471
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: Get the on my face, listen, Sunday Morning is my

1472
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: African mother's gym. You're under saying when Sunday Morning came out,

1473
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: my mother was like forty eight and by they.

1474
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: Tried to they tried to gaslight us during their last

1475
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Man, that was when I said. That was

1476
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: the day I remember I said, I'm not fucking with

1477
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: black Twitter no more.

1478
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh, let do you know what mine? Not fucking black

1479
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: no more?

1480
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: Uh I have thirty seven of them, but go ahead.

1481
01:18:54,120 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: That's hysterical my most recent one. Uh, I out myself

1482
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: like every time I complimented a white woman, I felt

1483
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: myself finding the reason to compliment a black woman right after. Honestly,

1484
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: it will be awesome, some wildly irrelevant ship. So I

1485
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: was just me like, I was like, Wow, you know,

1486
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: Kate Blanchet is so fucking profit. By the way, don't

1487
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: you fucking love Laurien Right? She's great.

1488
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 3: I think people started telling me shit was bad. That

1489
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: was good. Was when I got fed up.

1490
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: Because you start feeling crazy, like like the same way

1491
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: I came to y'all just to make sure it was

1492
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: not okay to stalk reality TV people. I never trust

1493
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 1: my brain anymore, and I like not to be super arrogant,

1494
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: but my intellect has always been the only thing I've

1495
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: ever liked about myself. I don't I don't think i'm pretty,

1496
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm like cool. I don't think I'm like,

1497
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be funny, that this is not me fishing,

1498
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: this is just me placing my brain where it actually is,

1499
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: just being honest about myself. So I appreciate you wanting

1500
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: to help myself esteem, but we gave up one a

1501
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: long time ago, and so I appreciate you. No, truly.

1502
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was copping. I thought I was beautiful

1503
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: and funny before I got to LA, and then I

1504
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: got to La. I'm not.

1505
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: Right right, you got hold on, hold, I got a pause.

1506
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: All right, we're back.

1507
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: You were telling us how you moved to LA and

1508
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: it killed your self esteem, and now you don't think

1509
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: you're pretty and smart, And.

1510
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: No, I still think I'm smart. Don't you know that part.

1511
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna take that one from me. It was hard.

1512
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm out here being like I'm the smartest bitch than everybody.

1513
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: But no, it was really really hard because I turned

1514
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: thirty in December, and on two weeks notice, I got

1515
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: my job at the Good Place, and I had to

1516
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: be out. So I turned thirty on December twelfth or whatever.

1517
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 1: I had interviewed for the Good Place, maybe December seventeenth

1518
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: or something, and then had to wait a couple of

1519
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: weeks and I was in LA by January twenty. First

1520
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: that if you've spent thirty years in the Tri state area,

1521
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: like true story, I went to Princeton, so that's Jersey

1522
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: an hour away. I literally had never had a different

1523
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: environment to be in personally, and suddenly I'm in this

1524
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: place on short notice. And maybe this is controversial, but

1525
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: La black people, in my opinion, don't respect blackness in

1526
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: a way that I understand and get, Like, God, forgive me,

1527
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: this is a terrible sentiment, but it's true. I'd be like,

1528
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: you don't even like life campages out here, like I

1529
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: can't even give Like how did that find? I'm like,

1530
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm not You're not gonna like my Nars difference, y'all.

1531
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: We were like, listen, I got four c hand nigga,

1532
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: they do not care. I'm like, listen, I take.

1533
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I do.

1534
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: I do think it's like because we were talking about

1535
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: black twitter and like not trusting ship. I do think

1536
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: it was for me it was them putting dirt on

1537
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: ship that I'm like, all right, well, I guess it's

1538
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 2: no need to check that out. But then it's like

1539
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: a double thing because it's like, oh no, we shipped

1540
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: on that for you to check it out.

1541
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nigga, like you mean like do you

1542
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: mean like TV or music?

1543
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 3: All of it?

1544
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Like people everything like this ship is terrible, don't fuck

1545
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: with it. And it's like jokes about how terrible is

1546
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, then there's no need for me to

1547
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 2: fuck with it, right, And then.

1548
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: La, in my opinion, sorry to cut you off. In

1549
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: my opinion, La, Hollywood, no, let me not say that.

1550
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: But a certain kind of people in laws who are

1551
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: black are very anti black and they don't realize it yet. Yeah,

1552
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: and it's a very frustrating thing to encounter. It's a

1553
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: very frustrating thing to watch sort of trickle down to

1554
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: the rest of society. I remember, h so uh keny Embarrass'

1555
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: show Black as Fuck came out and I haven't watched it.

1556
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: Yet, Yeah, but niggas been shitting on the door like

1557
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: it started off like motherfucker's like fuck this show, blah

1558
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: blah blah blah you even get a chance to see it,

1559
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the ship that turned me off.

1560
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: Because then I watched it and I was like, this isn't

1561
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 3: even bad, Like how did y'all.

1562
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 2: Hate this like y'all hate the dude? Y'all don't hate

1563
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: the thing like y'all hate it. Before you even fucking

1564
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: got a chance to bring people were saying they hated

1565
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 2: after an episode. There were people saying, I didn't watch

1566
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: an episode. Let me tell you thirty seven things bad

1567
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 2: about this. That's crazy to me. But you didn't see

1568
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: it because it's about It's about the collective community of

1569
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 2: hating the shit.

1570
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,839
Speaker 3: It's not even about the thing.

1571
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: We've decided online. We've decided arbitrarily what blackness looks like

1572
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: and what is the most appropriate. Yes, and I don't

1573
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: let me tell you I didn't watch Blackish. I hate

1574
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: the title of the show, and I watched the pilot

1575
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, not for me, but you

1576
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: will never catch me trashing it. Yes, but there's this

1577
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: weird and it gets people successful, and I think people

1578
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter try to emulate it so sad they can

1579
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: be successful, which is to offer why your version of

1580
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: the black art today is better than the black art

1581
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: that came before it. And you know that's common. It's

1582
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: called the anxiety of influence. You'll see it in Greek

1583
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: mythology and Greek playwriting and like all that stuff. It

1584
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: is throughout all kinds of Western culture, and I think

1585
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Black people adopted it. I don't think, you know, pre

1586
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: colonial black art has all that, but I could be wrong.

1587
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I just know your art and Nigeria's art, but it's

1588
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: like very very bizarre, the thing that you have to

1589
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: kill your father so that you can be successful. And

1590
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I remember there was just like one

1591
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: so that whole week of black As came out and

1592
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen it. I was just on Twitter

1593
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: looking at it, and I just kind of was like, wow, man,

1594
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: like you are really gonna kill this man because he

1595
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: tried to talk to you. That's fucking nuts. That's fucking crazy.

1596
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: They not even talking to you and this man tried

1597
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Gonna kill him. But in particular,

1598
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: I remember I saw a tweet from a person I

1599
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: think his name was like Ernest Always and this is

1600
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: not me trying to start beef on your on your platform,

1601
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: it's just something I remember, and he was like he

1602
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, gave his long fucking thread about why this

1603
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: show is trash, and then he said this, you know,

1604
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: he kind of implies that Kenya Barras has a history

1605
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: of colorism, which may or may not be true. I

1606
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 1: don't fucking know, but he said this is the final

1607
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: nail in the coffin, and that phrase made me go,

1608
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm done with all of this. Can you imagine you

1609
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 1: are some little nigga on Twitter?

1610
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 5: Do you think you think that this ain't me?

1611
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: On BT?

1612
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 5: Kennya Baris has made ABC so much fucking money that

1613
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 5: they gave him of the shows. He has two prime

1614
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 5: time shows on ABC and one on Freeform. And oh

1615
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 5: he don't really fool with that because he over at

1616
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 5: NAT flits to this hundred million dollar deal. And you

1617
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 5: think your tweet is the nail in somebody's fucking coffee.

1618
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: You jealous bitch, You corny bitch, you whack bitch. I

1619
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: don't even go up for Kenya like that, but you

1620
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,919
Speaker 1: think that your little social media is the difference between

1621
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: all of us and and like and these legends. If

1622
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: it's so easy to do, my niggas, go do it right.

1623
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: And then the thing is because I heard uh an

1624
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: episode of like the Grios podcast that was about black

1625
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: as fuck and they had ernest On there to like

1626
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: explain his point of view or.

1627
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 10: Whatever was doing podcast tours to explain why he's jealous

1628
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 10: on the show, there's a fuck out that's can and

1629
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 10: ship it was.

1630
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: I had a chip on my shoulder because the way

1631
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: people handle black ladies schedule, you would have thought we

1632
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: murdered me on this. You would have thought that we

1633
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: was raping children on that show. All we did was

1634
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: try to make you laught and maybe miss the fucking mark.

1635
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: And I don't even think we did what then paying

1636
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: attentional wasn't giving us a chance? Do you know what

1637
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: goes into a sketch show? Everybody loves nostalgia. I want

1638
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: you to watch three episodes in a row of in

1639
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Living Color and tell me if every sketch hit. Watch

1640
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: three episodes of fucking Chapelle Show, first season and tell

1641
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: me if anything hits.

1642
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Get not just not just that, but also not just that,

1643
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: but watch it with your twenty twenty lenses.

1644
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 3: Right, do it? Do it?

1645
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Do it the way you do everything else where everything

1646
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: has a thread and needle to be funny.

1647
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 3: Now I can't offend anything.

1648
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: Episodes of The Jamie Fox Show and Martin are written

1649
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: by white and Jewish man and the fuck you mean

1650
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: black girls can't write black comedy, Get the Fucky.

1651
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: And I remember that time because kind of in the

1652
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: same vein as black as fuck. It was a lot

1653
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 2: of like, well, then that's because you're this type of

1654
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: black person.

1655
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 3: I don't know you. I don't have to know you.

1656
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just inject all these stereotypes and stigmas. Y'all

1657
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: didn't grow up around black people. You hate black people.

1658
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: You all have white men and shit, but.

1659
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Also time out, but also time out. How come your

1660
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: version of black gests to be on TV? But mind don't?

1661
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: How come how come I'm supposed to hide and act

1662
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: like I'm invisible because I went to a school because

1663
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: I because I had a certain socioeconomic status. If we

1664
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: being honest, if we being honest, with the exception of

1665
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 1: the Cosby Show and the and the and the TV

1666
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: shows that got fired through it, all of black representation

1667
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: was low income and hardly educated. And then when it

1668
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: got to be different, now niggas is feeling lest out,

1669
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: and let's have a conversation about what things white people

1670
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: love to greenlight, what things white people will power love

1671
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: to green light. I could talk with you about that,

1672
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: but we not go on front like the shows you like,

1673
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: wasn't white people telling that black people was poor and

1674
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything else going on? I love good Times,

1675
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: but Good Times is not a nigga production.

1676
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: Right and then and then also you have written by.

1677
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: White people through Norman Lear's lands in the Child cat

1678
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Roup and exactly what I'm fucking getting out right, Seriously,

1679
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna sit here and be like, oh oh we

1680
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: love this, this, this, this and this and this, and

1681
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: it's like, if anything, the real revolution came in the

1682
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: nineties when you had women black women's showwriters being like, Okay,

1683
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: we want to see girlfriends that we want to see,

1684
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, other ships, like black representation on TV was

1685
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: white controlled, and quite as it kept, it is still

1686
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: white controlled. I love Black Ladies Schedule. That is a

1687
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: nigga operation through and through. And it is so corny

1688
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: to see people because they're jealous. And I'm not saying

1689
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: that's on some like those people want to be me.

1690
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: I think jealousy is a complex emotion and people don't

1691
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: understand it's their driver that they are upset when something

1692
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: is not within their control, within the sundlines of what

1693
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: they want within their scope. Now, it's bad because we

1694
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: didn't think of it because we wouldn't have thought of it.

1695
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 4: Well.

1696
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Also, I think there's there's a thing where people want

1697
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 3: to resist respectability to a point where they make it

1698
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: respectable again, and they don't really like they don't think

1699
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 3: about the prisms that they put our artists in when

1700
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 3: they do that shit where it's like, yeah, you could

1701
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: be black, but it's gotta be this type of black.

1702
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 3: It's gotta be this type of way.

1703
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so I can have a fat character

1704
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: on my show, Okay, cool if I want to write

1705
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: her like one of the girls. All the girls go

1706
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: through shit that all the butter of the jokes sometimes

1707
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You only get sensitive when the fat

1708
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: person the butter the joke. So everyone else fucks up

1709
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 2: all the time, that's okay because they're not fat, But

1710
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 2: the one fat character has to basically be boring. They

1711
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 2: gotta always be right, they gotta always like address every wrong,

1712
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 2: They gotta always come out and on the top.

1713
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 3: In the end, nothing can ever be fucked up at

1714
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 3: that far.

1715
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 10: Eat it.

1716
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: It's absurd what we expect of the marginalized people every time.

1717
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: And you sit there and tell us it's freedom when you're.

1718
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Nice and more and more. The part that's even worse.

1719
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: We have more ship now, so you literally could just.

1720
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: Watch other ship. This is not Yeah, this isn't.

1721
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 2: Like when you had the Coze Show and it was like,

1722
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 2: here's the here's your black shows. Okay, Coze Show, family

1723
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: matter what. This isn't like that anymore. Like you can

1724
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: go and pick on some obscure ass streaming platform that

1725
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 2: I've never fucking heard of.

1726
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: There it exists, I don't.

1727
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: It's like PBS max is fucking out there and it's

1728
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: got the one obscure black show that you want to

1729
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: see about black ghosts that fucking write books that don't

1730
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 2: ever experience racism. You have that, and then what fucks

1731
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: me up even worse is like, whatever, this one black

1732
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 2: show doesn't do. That's the shit people were like, Okay,

1733
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: So if they would have made the right choices and

1734
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: did this, then I would watch that the fucking show

1735
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 2: comes out, because that's how life works now. That show

1736
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: that you said you spoken to existence, it always comes

1737
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: out and then they go, I don't like that. That's

1738
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: one of the reasons I got mad about A Black

1739
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Lady's Sketch Show was because you had people saying shit like, well,

1740
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: this is for white people.

1741
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 3: There's no fucking white people in the fucking show.

1742
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 4: It's like, did you watch the show?

1743
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: They don't even have bits where it's like, oh, a

1744
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 2: white person came on and we all reacted to the

1745
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: racism of having to deal with white It was literally

1746
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 2: black escapism.

1747
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: It was black.

1748
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: It was black absurdism and black woman absurdism. Yeah, it

1749
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 2: had LGBTQ people, It had all this shit, and people

1750
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: were picking every single fucking sketchle part And I'm like,

1751
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: you are the people that say you wanted this, You

1752
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: wanted to see black women in power to do exactly

1753
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: what the fuck is on your screen, and you couldn't

1754
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 2: wait to call them out of their fuck your names

1755
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 2: like they were some type of problem, like oh, like

1756
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: you might as well call them bad winches how to funk?

1757
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Like you literally did that yourself.

1758
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: It was hey brod I Rafasani born and raised in Brooklyn,

1759
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: New York. Born born in East flat Bush, actually born

1760
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: in Bushwick. Raised in East flash Bush, then East New

1761
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: York and now Crown Heights. If I go chill at

1762
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: my parents' house, I am suburbans, right, I'm suburban, and

1763
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: my thing was this I did a lot of because

1764
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: it was the first time that a TV product that

1765
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I had worked on had been viciously attacked. So I

1766
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 1: worked on a good place that has Even though the

1767
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: good place didn't have like the greatest ratings in the world,

1768
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: it was just kind of accepted by internet nerves. It's

1769
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: like a perfect show, right, And I agree, it's a

1770
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: perfect show. And like the President's show was too small

1771
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: and white to be even got at well, I don't

1772
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: even think people was watching, to be honest, and I

1773
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly okay.

1774
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 4: With that.

1775
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: Black Lady schedule. Was was wild because it was so unkind.

1776
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: It wasn't hey, I don't think this show is funny.

1777
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 1: It was never. It was never, hey, this comedy trope

1778
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. It was never like her singing

1779
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: voice was problematic. It was always y'all are not black

1780
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: the right way, and y'all are not attractive the right way,

1781
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: and all of this, all of this, and I got

1782
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: so sensitive. I was always arguing online, always arguing online,

1783
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: and it ended up being a bad look for me.

1784
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Like I haven't deleted those tweets, but I do regret them,

1785
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, you're you're a liar. You

1786
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: need this to be bad, and you need this to

1787
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: be terrible for different reasons than the Organs.

1788
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 2: They were looking. They were looking for a community. I

1789
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 2: remember we talk at the time and I'll be like, yeah,

1790
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: this isn't even about y'all. It's them stowing up a

1791
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 2: signal flair to other people to like, come hate this.

1792
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 3: Can we hate this together?

1793
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: Yes? I remember there was like one instance where some

1794
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: woman said, we don't like And also, I want to

1795
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: be clear, these are not the statements on behalf of

1796
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: anybody at Black Lace Schedule or me. This is just

1797
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: my opinion on a thing that I don't write for

1798
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: anymore because we're on hiatus. I'm not there. Who knows

1799
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: what my future looks like. But I just thought that

1800
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:50,560
Speaker 1: it was really wild because the space for white productions

1801
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 1: and like white supremacy is internalized even in the wokest

1802
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: of peace. It is because Euphoria was aaron on h

1803
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 1: HBO at about the same time, and I remember somebody

1804
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: wrote on Twitter like a huge thread and hey, god,

1805
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: so many retweets, and I was just appalled by how

1806
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: popular that thread was. Where that person sat down and

1807
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: broke down why we were suburban and not black enough,

1808
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: and how all of the black women on HBO are

1809
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: exactly the same. And I'm like, there's no fucking way

1810
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,839
Speaker 1: that you have watched any of the shows that feature

1811
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: black women on HBO and think that they are the same.

1812
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Because Phoebe is my fucking girl. Phoebe Robinson is my homegirl,

1813
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: my sister, my ditch, and I will tell you right away,

1814
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: she don't do black like I do black. It's I

1815
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: love her any fucking way, you know what I'm saying.

1816
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: So for you to even say that a show I

1817
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: wrote on resembles even too Dope queens, you're a fucking liar.

1818
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: And then for people to be like, I'm in the

1819
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Steel and Robin thd they are such different fucking people.

1820
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: You're a fucking liar, you're a jealous person. And for

1821
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: you then say that, uh, Black Lady Sketch Show and

1822
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 1: all the black HBO productions are bad, but you love euphoria.

1823
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 1: But to say that Black Lady's Sketch Show is not realistic?

1824
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: What eupho real life? You live in? What you for

1825
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: your life you live in the first fucking episode, I

1826
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 1: should have gone. I turned off Euphoria halfway through and

1827
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,440
Speaker 1: then had to go back and rewatch the first episode

1828
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: because they had a black man raping a little white girl.

1829
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: But black ladies sketch shows hung for the black people.

1830
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,839
Speaker 1: Suck my motherfucking dick, you whack bitches, you jealous cunts.

1831
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm drunker than I have to be.

1832
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 3: Well you.

1833
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 2: Also, it's also the thing that all those black women

1834
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 2: have in confidence that they have a show so exactly,

1835
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 2: that's the main problem. It's so crazy because like, take

1836
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 2: a time machine back ten years and I guarantee you

1837
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: that same person's.

1838
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 3: Like, why why won't people give a Ray a show?

1839
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 2: She has a YouTube series called Awkward Black Girl, and

1840
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: it's so good, but these white people don't never see us.

1841
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. She gets she gives a show. She

1842
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 2: actually starts producing ship. She starts hiring all black women writers,

1843
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 2: rooms and ship, and it's like, wrong type of blacks.

1844
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 3: Why do these blacks get a show? I'm like, God, damn,

1845
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 3: what happened. That's like.

1846
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, Eastern Ray is terrible, you know

1847
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,520
Speaker 1: a better Ray. Her name is Ray Sarvy. And then

1848
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 1: when I come when I come out and I'm popping

1849
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: it be like, well, I know a rack who's a

1850
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: better race than race.

1851
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 2: It's crazy because also the thing too with that is

1852
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: that they'll they'll throw that extra layer of respectability on

1853
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 2: it cousins black, but all the time they running behind

1854
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: black freedom and this black joy that black lives.

1855
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 1: But it's the only liberation that's afforded to anybody. Because

1856
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you're worried about the reputation of

1857
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: the community and then you're then you're excited.

1858
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 2: Sitting on this stuff not but fuck them being excited

1859
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: about that other ship. Why you got to take the

1860
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: time out the ship on the other stuff.

1861
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't like.

1862
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't give a fuck if you really

1863
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 2: was like, because I look, I've seen black ship that

1864
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like this. I don't give

1865
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: if it's black and not like this just isn't good

1866
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 2: to me. You know, everyone has those things, but I

1867
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 2: think it's it's a different time.

1868
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: There's there are a lot of things I don't mention,

1869
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: but I will on every occasion take the opportunity to

1870
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: ship on slaves play. That was a fucking abomination and

1871
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: it was terrible, and I actually thought, God forgive me.

1872
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:43,839
Speaker 1: Fuck them niggas anyway.

1873
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: But I think I think I'm friends. I think I'm

1874
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 2: friends with the person. I'm friends with the friend of

1875
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 2: the person who wrote it. So if they're listening, yeah.

1876
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: I was with a friend of the person who wrote it.

1877
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 1: I've seen that ship before. Everybody else seen that Ship's terrible.

1878
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: It's fucking terrible, and it's okay because I don't. I didn't.

1879
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I kind of was just like, oh what whoa what

1880
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: was that? And I tried to be patient about it.

1881
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: But then when all of these publications was lying about

1882
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: how much they loved it, then I have to be like,

1883
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna get my Twitter to go on.

1884
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't even tell people this is horrendous. But generally speaking,

1885
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't like to shit on black art. That's not

1886
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: actively doing harm. I do think that slave plate does harm,

1887
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: which is the exception I made for that. Maybe that

1888
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: was a lie. I told myself to feel better about

1889
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: hating on something.

1890
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 3: But I think everybody does.

1891
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: I think everybody is doing that, like, yeah, that's like

1892
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 2: that's actually low key. I don't really like I don't

1893
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: like that feeling and I don't like to promote that

1894
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 2: where it's like this thing is the exception, because I

1895
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: feel like what happens is when we really don't like something,

1896
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 2: we elevate the power and significance of it.

1897
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 3: Most people, most people in.

1898
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 2: Our chat room have not heard of slave play, right,

1899
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 2: most of the people like you walked on the street,

1900
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: man on the street, the white the black people, Hey man,

1901
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 2: what you think about slave Like, I don't even know

1902
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're talking about, right, So it's a

1903
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 2: small collection of people. What happens is white people in

1904
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 2: that industry.

1905
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: Love it, and they made and they've made the conversational

1906
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: conversation we didn't even want to fucking have. It was

1907
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 1: a conversation maybe not necessarily a playwright. When it has

1908
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: and and now our art is filtered through there well

1909
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: and more often, and then people resent the Black party

1910
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 1: for how the white people receive it.

1911
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 4: Right.

1912
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 3: So that's that's why.

1913
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing I'm saying too about the even

1914
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 2: with slave play, like it might be, I didn't see it,

1915
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: so it's sure it's horrible, it's terrible. But at the

1916
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: same time, no no, no, no, no, no no, no, this

1917
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: is me.

1918
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 3: No no, no, this is me.

1919
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 2: This is me conceding that for the part of the argument, right,

1920
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't because I don't want to. I'm saying, let's

1921
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: concede that it's terrible, right right. I don't feel no, No,

1922
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: I feel like even if it's terrible, it's no like

1923
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 2: it becomes harmful and violent and more stuff to us

1924
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 2: when we really don't funk with something, because now people

1925
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 2: throw that ship on everything they don't funk with, you

1926
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like it's like they bastardized

1927
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: the strength of those terms because it's like like.

1928
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 3: Black lad sketch show is violent and I'm like, it's not.

1929
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:29,440
Speaker 4: It's not right. Yeah, you're like google.

1930
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: The definition, right, I could just go find it. I

1931
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: will say with black la uh not black scheduled.

1932
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 3: Way to not Yeah, I do that too, that too.

1933
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: And then I saw all of these reviews about it,

1934
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, no, this is an alternate

1935
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: reality because all the reviews were people positive and didn't

1936
01:43:55,880 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: they weren't positive, like oh, they countered my anxiety about it.

1937
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: They just acted like the stuff I had a problem with.

1938
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 2: So it's like the white people, it's like, uh, fuck,

1939
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: you didn't see Black as Fuck. It's like they have

1940
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 2: an episode of Black as Fuck where they talk about

1941
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 2: white critics being afraid to talk about black sh.

1942
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly that.

1943
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 11: Sometimes I felt like it was like that, and then

1944
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 11: I so then I remember tweeting having read all of

1945
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 11: these bogus reviews.

1946
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: About it, and you know, when Rihanna went to the play,

1947
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: everybody's like, well they did, must be fiving. So I tweeted.

1948
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: I remember specifically tweeting something like, Hey, is there anybody

1949
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: who's a black woman who wants to have an honest

1950
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: conversation with me about and we could talk privately, And

1951
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I got a couple of d ms and I got

1952
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 1: it out because I wasn't gonna be out here black

1953
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: art for you to watch you do. After the lesson,

1954
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: I just fucking learned about your slaughter and black art.

1955
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate that because, like, I also think people run

1956
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 2: with that ship too, And that's another thing I never

1957
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 2: want to be, is the black person they called the

1958
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 2: ship on the black thing, because that's the thing too.

1959
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 3: I was talking.

1960
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend who he used to

1961
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 2: be like, he used to really write for some big publications.

1962
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 2: He's kind of had to like restart his career because

1963
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 2: he stopped writing for him because he noticed that he

1964
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 2: was getting the call to be like, Okay, so Kobe died,

1965
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 2: can you write about his sexual assault? And he's like,

1966
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: when David Bowie died, we didn't write that, So why

1967
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 2: like why.

1968
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Right? Right? So then why did.

1969
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: We about his white making children?

1970
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 10: Right?

1971
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 2: And so he's like, why are y'all calling me for that,

1972
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, Michael Jackson documentary calling him for that one?

1973
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: But you know, he's like, you know, why why aren't

1974
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: y'all calling me for these other jobs? And he he

1975
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: just had an epiphany on his like like, wait, I'm

1976
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 2: the black guy who character assassinates black people. Because y'all

1977
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 2: don't want to put your hands on it, you can

1978
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 2: put my byline. They were changing the headlines to the articles.

1979
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,600
Speaker 2: He was writing all kinds of crazy shit, and so

1980
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: I do I do like understand that too. I watched

1981
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 2: something this weekend. I was like, Oh, this ship was

1982
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 2: not good. And I was just like, yeah, just not

1983
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 2: talk about it, like just like, oh, I thought.

1984
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: You meant like you watched something that has a commentary, but.

1985
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, this ship wasn't good to

1986
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 2: me like it was. It was and I found out

1987
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: later behind it. Matter of fact, I can say it

1988
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 2: because uh, the daughter like great great.

1989
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: Great wasn't Oh you watched that?

1990
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was called self made. It's on Netflix. It's

1991
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: only four parts, and it.

1992
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 1: Felt told me to watch that, but I wasn't gonna

1993
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: tweet about.

1994
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 3: Not watching that, but it was.

1995
01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 2: I watched it and it was like four parts and

1996
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 2: it was rush right, and that that was my main problem.

1997
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 2: Like they got a good cast and all this shit,

1998
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 2: but it's just you know, when you rush shit so

1999
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 2: fast as like things don't Revelations that are supposed to

2000
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 2: build are just like.

2001
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 3: This nigga cheating. You're like, what how did we get here?

2002
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 4: Like that?

2003
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 3: Like that's crazy.

2004
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: So what happened was the great great granddaughter of Sarah

2005
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 2: Breed Love aka Battle c J.

2006
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Walker.

2007
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: She wrote something for The Undefeated where she talked about

2008
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 2: her conflicted feelings of being a part of the promotion

2009
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: of it and not wanting to like speak out against it,

2010
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 2: but feeling that it wasn't as good as it could

2011
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: have been. And behind the scenes they stripped. Yeah, and

2012
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: then behind the scenes they stripped six episodes. This ship

2013
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 2: was supposed to be ten episodes made more sense, right,

2014
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 2: and so they stripped it down.

2015
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 3: To four, And so of course it didn't.

2016
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 1: Turn out to us come out right. I am astonished

2017
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: to hear that, right, because do you know how many

2018
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars are in a six episode chunk? Like,

2019
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: let's not let's lie and say or not even lie,

2020
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: but let's like grapple with the fact that Netflix might

2021
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: have only given a black series dislimited budget to then

2022
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: reduce the budget by six whole episode, right.

2023
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 2: So they basically had an impossible job, right, because you can't.

2024
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I would have if I was Lebron, I

2025
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: would have scrapped it. But I mean, I don't have

2026
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: the luxury of doing Lebron doesn't have the luxury.

2027
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in my kid and so, but she wrote

2028
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 2: about all this stuff and how conflicted she felt and stuff,

2029
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 2: and I read that and I was like, the thing

2030
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 2: that stuck out to me is that she felt that

2031
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 2: way the whole time. She had to wait until Memorial

2032
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: Day weekend to finally tell the world, Yo.

2033
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 3: It's not good. And I do understand, and it's unfortunate.

2034
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 2: It's not anyone, it's not any of the black people

2035
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 2: working with this fault, but yeah, we didn't. They didn't

2036
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 2: have enough and so it didn't do my great great

2037
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 2: grandmother's legacy justice or whatever. And I mean it was

2038
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 2: like it was like sad, but it's also like, damn it.

2039
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 2: They don't sum up every fucking thing. We've just been

2040
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 2: talking about, that dichotomy of like, fuck, I want to

2041
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: come out and tell people like this shit ain't good,

2042
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 2: but then I'm shitting on it.

2043
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm fucking up. And she was like she was so

2044
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 3: conscious of it.

2045
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 2: She said she knew she couldn't say anything because the

2046
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: headlines would have said the ancestor of Madam C. J.

2047
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: Walker doesn't approve of this movie, which is something that

2048
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 2: a lot of people do. When Bruce Lee, they wouldn't

2049
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 2: find like Bruce Lee's great great granddaughter to shit on

2050
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 2: the Hollywood.

2051
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: Daughters and Rights loved.

2052
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 2: So she she was so cognizant of it. She kept

2053
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: it to herself, even knowing I don't really approve of this,

2054
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: and then they gave her like script review, not script approval.

2055
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 3: So she was like, I don't want people thinking I just.

2056
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Is she a TV Is she a TV person?

2057
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't think but she works, she works in the

2058
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 2: haircare industry, still, the beauty industry.

2059
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 3: Still, she's still so, she's so. It was just sad.

2060
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's what it made me think of all

2061
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: the ship we've been talking is like that's it, Like

2062
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 2: you can't even say it, but you want to be.

2063
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 1: A complex place where like you don't want to be

2064
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: the killer of black art. You don't want to over

2065
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: criticize black art, but you don't want to undercriticized black art.

2066
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: And then what is black art anyway? Right? Black art

2067
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: because the niggas who made it are black? Or is

2068
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: black art because in a certain tradition, like is justin

2069
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Timberlake making black art? Am I making black art? If

2070
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: it's just pure I don't even know if there's a

2071
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 1: white music genre that is pure white because they stole

2072
01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: it from myself. It's yodling, it's Irish river dance, black art,

2073
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's such a very

2074
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 1: complicated place.

2075
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 6: And one thing about it it has to have a

2076
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 6: balance to it because what are y'all talking about is

2077
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:14,839
Speaker 6: so complex because a lot of it is white gays

2078
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 6: and it's just something about white gays and white eyes, right,

2079
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 6: and and.

2080
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 4: And it's a stress and that comes from white supremacy.

2081
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things.

2082
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 1: And people are more sorry to cut you off, kryon,

2083
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish. But people are more uh

2084
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: responsive to it than they would ever allow themselves.

2085
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,440
Speaker 6: Right because because the thing is, people say they want diversity,

2086
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 6: and people say they want equality, they don't really want that.

2087
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 4: All they want.

2088
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 6: Is for black eyes to approve it because they know

2089
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 6: white people got the money. And I'm just gonna get

2090
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 6: that real like like like they just assume that white

2091
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 6: people got the money. So whatever we do, we have

2092
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 6: to do it where white people will approve it to

2093
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 6: give us the money.

2094
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 4: So demos, we gets the money, we can quote up

2095
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 4: do what we want to do and or have these freedoms.

2096
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 4: But is that freedom? You know? And and that's the

2097
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 4: real question.

2098
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 6: And the thing about black art and and and what's

2099
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 6: considered blackness. The thing is black people can write about

2100
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 6: black things from their experience and it's black art. Also

2101
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 6: white people can write black art and is still considered black.

2102
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 9: And that's literally every eighty right and and and and

2103
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 9: now that that right there blows wrote people's minds act

2104
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 9: like that is a foreign concept because in their mind,

2105
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 9: everything that a white person whites is evil, is dirty.

2106
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 6: He's that he got to kill all the niggas. That's

2107
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 6: that's not true. But my thing is that when it comes,

2108
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 6: it's about creativity. Just because I'm not a part of

2109
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 6: something does not mean I can't tell that a part

2110
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 6: or a piece of that story of something that I

2111
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 6: may or may not have experience because.

2112
01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:01,799
Speaker 1: I I just want to say, celebrate that Karen has

2113
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: finally given me justification enough to love robinsick out loud.

2114
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: I love that nigga. Can I handle? Can I go there?

2115
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: That's my nigga making the black arnt with his white

2116
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 1: at Okay.

2117
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, I feel like I feel like Leslie.

2118
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 2: Leslie Jones experienced that where a lot of black people

2119
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: were they were like her only audience. And then she

2120
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: was like she was like fifty, and it was like okay,

2121
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,759
Speaker 2: so she's just gonna do this forever and then boom

2122
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 2: SNL happens and it's like, oh, she's graduating. There was

2123
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: a celebration and then she does her black ass Leslie

2124
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,600
Speaker 2: joneshit sn L and niggas.

2125
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 3: Got so uncomfortable.

2126
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm like y'all know she's been making

2127
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 2: that joke for her whole career, Like, how you gonna take.

2128
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 3: This away from.

2129
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:05,719
Speaker 1: Bruh? Do you understand my family, we didn't get cable

2130
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 1: until I was about thirteen years old, So it was

2131
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 1: like the summer before September eleventh we got cable and

2132
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: Comic View. What hop shit it was like for me,

2133
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I should be watching this.

2134
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: Mommy is sleeping, so I would watch. So when my

2135
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: mom would sleep, me and my brother we'd be up

2136
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty watching Common View. And let me tell you,

2137
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Leslie fucking Jones was on there, her whole ass in

2138
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: a black tanktop and denim jeans, and she had relaxed hair.

2139
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: And you know how when back in the day before

2140
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: it was popular to put weaves in, you would wrap

2141
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: your head, so yeah, yeah, we flat on your face,

2142
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: and so she had that. And she was talking about

2143
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 1: back then how she was a female basketball player and

2144
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: like it was hard to get men or whatever whatever.

2145
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: And it's hilarious because people credit, you know, Chris Rock

2146
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: with getting her on fn L. But if white people

2147
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: didn't improve Shorty when they got there, Chris Rock is

2148
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Chris Rock. He ain't Lord Michaels, you understand. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there's other people Chris Rock try to get on

2150
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: that show. There's other people who did get on the show.

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Speaker 1: Shorty got on the show, very talented. She's somebody I

2152
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: will never forget from my growing up. I remember her jokes.

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: So Shorty does that bit about you know how she

2154
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: hates being single in the presence and that back in

2155
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 1: slavery days, she would have been the baddest bitch, especially right.

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01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: That was the bit, yes, And I thought it was

2157
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant because it called our black asses out and

2158
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: it always wow, you greeted us, you made it us,

2159
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: you made us life skin, you did this to us.

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01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: Now we have all these colorism issues and whatever, and

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01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: black people look at you. You would have a bitch

2162
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: like me was fine, but you let this hate get

2163
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 1: to you. Let's talk about it, and it's turned. I

2164
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: remember specifically, I remember it was the name Shorty's Jamila

2165
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: Lemux without here trying to trash pretty life and bitch

2166
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: and telling fucking Leslie Jones. She can't tell this. Joe

2167
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: can't talk about her actual relationships to beauty standers and

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01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: her own slave ancestry. You whack for that. And then

2169
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 1: all I could think about was you care about this

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: because you care about white people.

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01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 10: You know it.

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01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: You are just as obsessful what white people think of

2173
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 1: you as you claim everybody else to be. Not personally,

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01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know Jamilla or whatever, but I just remember

2175
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: drawing that conclusion from the conversation.

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01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 3: It was a lot. It was. I remember that.

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Speaker 12: Got I felt like they were predominantly like yeah, yeah,

2178
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 12: other it was like bougie black people.

2179
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Speaker 1: There was another one's dark tall ass.

2180
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: There was another one that did the same thing, same

2181
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 2: type of chick. When she got the job for the

2182
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters movie, I was gonna bring it up, but why

2183
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: why she came, Why she got to work for the MTA,

2184
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 2: Why she can't be a scientist?

2185
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 3: And Leslie Jones is like work.

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01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: For the MTA, to tell you, and then and then

2187
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: also like TV, we really like that.

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01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 2: Also, the thing that would have been bullshit is how

2189
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 2: they would have rejected the fuck out of her the

2190
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: second she started talking about ectoplasm and blah blah blah,

2191
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 2: it's fitting out lines that don't look right.

2192
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: Then it would have been like yeah, it would have

2193
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 3: been like well, why they do this to her character?

2194
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 3: Why couldn't she just be herself?

2195
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, they didn't do that to Winston

2196
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: the first time around. Women are subject to her special

2197
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of criticism that you gonna get because I want

2198
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: to know, I want to know this is not me

2199
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: cause and ship because well, I have a complicated relationship

2200
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 1: with his art, but I want to know why Donald

2201
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 1: Glover can go in and out of community in Atlanta.

2202
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 1: But if it's if that Nicole Brown tried to do

2203
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: something like that, it would probably be an Yeah.

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01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 2: I think I think there's a lot of stuff where

2205
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: men have a certain level of privilege with this ship,

2206
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 2: like we talked about we talked about.

2207
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: Get to be Obama, but women don't get to rhyme.

2208
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: Women have to be like, oh, I'm a nigga, right.

2209
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 2: Like we did the same thing with uh the we

2210
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 2: talked about on the show a couple of years ago,

2211
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 2: when people were throwing around like Donald Glover is a

2212
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 2: genius and I'm not taking that away from him.

2213
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 1: I think I hated that. I was very angry about

2214
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: that because that would that felt to me like condescending

2215
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: white people deciding here's a black person who reflects an

2216
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 1: aesthetic that feels white. And so now we're gonna beat

2217
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,879
Speaker 1: you over the head with the notion that he's an genius,

2218
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 1: but just to say he isn't. But it felt like us, right,

2219
01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: and I.

2220
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 2: Not just not is that with white people though, I

2221
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 2: think even with black people right like it was?

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01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 3: It was.

2223
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 2: It's a thing where we call a man a genius,

2224
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: especially if they're.

2225
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 4: That.

2226
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: We don't do that for like especially and I think

2227
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 2: a lot of times we do it to justify the flaw.

2228
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: So it's like, like, Okay, I still like this person.

2229
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 3: This person does horrible ship. Kanye is a genius, you know,

2230
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 3: like yeah, but.

2231
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 2: They never do horrible ship, So we don't ever have

2232
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 2: to justify like and Beyonce and call her anything because

2233
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 2: like she never would even do some horrible ship in

2234
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 2: the way that we allow me to do.

2235
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, And now wouldn't that be hilarious? Now I need

2236
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 1: I would love to see God forgive me. This is

2237
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: not a good thing to wish for. But if it

2238
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 1: came out Beyonce with touching children, I would love to

2239
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: see black response to it.

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Speaker 11: I don't want to see it, No, I don't want

2241
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 11: to see it actually, I would love to engage with

2242
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 11: sthetical world.

2243
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: What that would do to our brains because there is

2244
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 1: this like this, like this, there are so many expectations

2245
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: that are unfair and unkind to all of the black people.

2246
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: And then you have various you know, deviations from what

2247
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: is like perfect right, and look she spent Beya say,

2248
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 1: spent how many years trying to be perfect? Well we

2249
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: got twenty five twenty at this point. Yeah, and r

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02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Kelly only had to do I really, racke fly, that

2251
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: was good. That's the ones there are the ones that

2252
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: keep us around. But I only roc a Fly got

2253
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 1: us there. And Beya say, there's nothing that a black woman,

2254
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, could do that that one song that

2255
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 1: could make us forgive us for make us forgive her

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Speaker 1: for all tips of seconds.

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Speaker 6: No, no, because when it comes down to it, men

2258
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 6: can be forgiven. Women are not to be forgiven, and

2259
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 6: that nest people don't want to talk about what depends.

2260
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:07,960
Speaker 1: That's frustrating because then it makes us have to contend

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02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 1: with each other. Now I'm a exampful of you black men,

2262
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 1: because you're getting away with ship that my black female

2263
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: ass can't get away with. But it was white people

2264
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 1: who made it the problem.

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02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 2: In the first And I think what's wild is that

2266
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 2: was substituted for redemption and forgiveness for black women. Is

2267
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 2: this other thing of being like that's where the standing

2268
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 2: ship comes from. It's like, well, what we'll do is

2269
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 2: everything they did was right, so you can never you

2270
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 2: can never you can never take it away.

2271
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 3: So so now you know.

2272
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 2: If somebody fucks up, there's like a whole hive of

2273
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 2: people out there to be like they fucking up, but

2274
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 2: there's a whole nother other people. I was like, no,

2275
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 2: that's not fucked up when she does it, you know,

2276
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Like so I guess.

2277
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: That dehumanized her both levels, even in support, right, like

2278
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 1: even with like Dojah Cat, which she did very very

2279
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 1: horrible ship, unforgivable ship this weekend. But it was just

2280
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 1: astonishing to me. Like I remember, like when the first

2281
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of homophobic shit came around Grace from Will and

2282
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 1: Grace was shipping on Shorty right, and I'm like, you

2283
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:18,839
Speaker 1: are fucking great, Willing, fucking Grace, But I've never heard

2284
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: of Deborah Messing shitting on like a snoop dog or

2285
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: like sitting on a jay Z. We sort of just

2286
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: accept white people's projections onto us, and which isn't to

2287
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 1: say that we all do. I don't want to speak

2288
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: for other black people, but I've noticed that we don't

2289
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: get leeway the way that y'all men get leeway. Now

2290
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 1: you gotta answer for all y'all fuck nigga.

2291
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, y'all females just get carried away.

2292
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 3: Not that. But what's wild is like even when Leonard.

2293
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 2: Del Ray, when all she named all these black women

2294
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 2: artists and shiit no no, you know, like there is

2295
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 2: like this weird thing where, like I think expectation of.

2296
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Us to be better than everybody else and to carry

2297
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 1: on the betterment of society. Okay, now that black women

2298
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: have admitted that they can sometimes be in tactic relationship,

2299
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: let's celebrate my toxicity. Help, let's try to say black.

2300
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 2: Also, it's also wild because like I think that's what

2301
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 2: I heard Kamala Harris too, was like she didn't get

2302
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:36,480
Speaker 2: to be flawed, like and like people people thought they were.

2303
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Booker is good on cop relations You think you get

2304
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: to be a fucking Corey Booker being good to criminal?

2305
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 3: No, none of them.

2306
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Do you think you think Obama was the best on

2307
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: fucking time relationships.

2308
02:03:57,960 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you a perfect example. I'll give you

2309
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 2: a perfect example, Eric Holder. We still hold Eric Holder.

2310
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 1: And even white people hold Loretta Lynch to a standard.

2311
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 1: They never held Eric's Holder too. I mean, you know,

2312
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 1: they always they all blame this Hillary gate, whatever, be

2313
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 1: the collusion, whatever, because Loretta Lynch was seen talking to

2314
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. Is there a photo of Eric Holder where

2315
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,760
Speaker 1: Bill Clayton? I bet you did, right, there's a photo.

2316
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 1: If there's a photo of Eric Holder talking to Hillary claim,

2317
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 1: I bet you there is. And Eric Holder, this nigga

2318
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:37,320
Speaker 1: has been a prosecutor the whole time, just like Larga.

2319
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 1: At least, Loretta Lynch is a delta evers. But hey,

2320
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 1: man is a falling black person. But Loretta Lynch you

2321
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: would have thought, oh she you know, you would have

2322
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 1: thought she fucked up everybody's kids, Like, are you fucking

2323
02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 1: kidding me?

2324
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 3: That's that's the man like.

2325
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 2: And what's weird to me is seeing black people that

2326
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 2: don't get the jig because a lot of times they're

2327
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 2: the ones responsible for setting that tone.

2328
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 4: Right.

2329
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:12,960
Speaker 3: They make it so you can disrespect Kamala Harris.

2330
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:16,919
Speaker 1: They make it so now we dragging Joe Biden, although

2331
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,440
Speaker 1: he was a cunt for it. I was mad by

2332
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 1: people equivocating about There was a Jameel Hill tweet and

2333
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I was like, surety, you ain't got to do this

2334
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 1: one this way, you ain't got to do but like, okay,

2335
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: so now you ain't black. All these people on Twitter,

2336
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 1: all these black folks on Twitter are going in extra

2337
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: and now Trump is selling a T shirt. It's stuff

2338
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 1: like that. If you want to talk about people thinking

2339
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,480
Speaker 1: were stupid and we go along with any trend or whatever.

2340
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 1: It's Republicans see the worst of us every time, the

2341
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 1: worst of our intellect every time, and like you said,

2342
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 1: they we set the tone on that because we have

2343
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: in private conversations and right social media.

2344
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 2: Yo, what's crazy is the people that tweet shit like

2345
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't want any white people to say anything about this,

2346
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 2: but I'm about to say and I'm like, niggas, they

2347
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 2: don't respect you, right, they don't How many years of

2348
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 2: this do you have to go through before you like,

2349
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:19,760
Speaker 2: maybe I just shouldn't say it here because they don't

2350
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 2: respect That's why I say shit for the podcast, because

2351
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 2: it's like, this is a platform where I know white

2352
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 2: people won't come in and interrupt the ship, like we

2353
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 2: can have this conversation.

2354
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: I'll just like, I haven't been doing this.

2355
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:33,280
Speaker 3: It's all good.

2356
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 2: But but that's but like that's a more safer place

2357
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 2: to have that you can't have that fucking And that's

2358
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 2: also because them niggas feel like they do have to

2359
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 2: explain blackness to everybody all day. They end up in

2360
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 2: them impossible situations of like, let me explain to you

2361
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 2: guys why it's not okay what Biden said. But at

2362
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 2: the same time, it doesn't mean that I'm like, no, nigga,

2363
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 2: just don't do what I do. I don't fuck with

2364
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Domina Silk. So anything that insults them, I'm not gonna

2365
02:06:58,560 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 2: hop in it.

2366
02:06:59,200 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 3: It don't matter.

2367
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 4: That's you can see.

2368
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 3: I don't even know what he could say.

2369
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what a fucking white person could say

2370
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: about Dominance Hill that would really make me step up.

2371
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 2: I honestly, I've thought about it longer hard and been

2372
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 2: like I would let it slide.

2373
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 3: I would let it slide.

2374
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: Though there are individual people right like you would have

2375
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: to like hang Candice Owens and then drag up from

2376
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:26,360
Speaker 1: the back of the truck.

2377
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 4: For me, it would have to be so bad right now,

2378
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 4: Ya'm taking this too.

2379
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 3: Ff. I'm like, okay, guys, that's enough.

2380
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: But the problem for me that exists with a thing

2381
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:41,400
Speaker 1: like that is that when you set things up at

2382
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 1: such extremes, you can't have a conversation, a real life conversation.

2383
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 4: Right, And that's the way you.

2384
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 7: Is.

2385
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating. So like when Joe Budden Joe Budden,

2386
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 1: I think Joe Budden and Joe Biden are equally bad,

2387
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: and I might think Joe Budden is worse. In fact,

2388
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 1: I know I think Joe Buden is worse. But so

2389
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 1: the Jamelle hits Hill thing I had a problem with

2390
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: was because there is such an obligation to be the

2391
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:19,040
Speaker 1: black person who makes the case for why it's okay

2392
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 1: black people do this thing. She she was like, oh,

2393
02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, what he said was accurate, And I'm like, no,

2394
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't accurate. What he said was stupid, but it

2395
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: wasn't stupid in a way that was impactful to this race.

2396
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: But we exist in a polarized world where I can't

2397
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:42,360
Speaker 1: put out a tweet Joe Biden said something dumb, but

2398
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 1: it's not impactful to the race. I have to say

2399
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 1: it was totally fine. What this, Nigga says, or I

2400
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: have to say he is a rapist, dessore my favorite

2401
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 1: rapist on them portance, nig I don't. And this is

2402
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 1: my frustration with fan culture, stand culture, I think.

2403
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 3: More often than that, which is politics.

2404
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:09,800
Speaker 1: By the way, we'll go ahead, yes, yes, which is embarrassing.

2405
02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: I remember specifically asking my friend, my friend who was

2406
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 1: super super pro Bernie, and I said to him, I said, Mike,

2407
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 1: you are a stand up comedian. You don't work for

2408
02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:28,240
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders campaign. Why is his name in your Twitter

2409
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: bio and not even on some trying to depress Bernie support.

2410
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 1: I was an Elizabeth Warren, a supporter, but I just

2411
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:39,240
Speaker 1: wanted to understand how we have gotten to a place

2412
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 1: where a politician is emblematic of my identity, literally, my biography,

2413
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 1: the space for my story about myself is a person

2414
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: who isn't me. You people are fucking crazy. I don't

2415
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 1: give the fuck who it is, where it is, why

2416
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 1: it is, how it is. You are letting a per

2417
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 1: who whose job is to sort of have the right

2418
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 1: idea about something but leave rooms to be swayed depending

2419
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 1: on popular opinions. You are that person to be definitive

2420
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 1: of who you are. You're sick, get help, you're crazy.

2421
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 1: I think I just don't understand how we got here,

2422
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: like this is crazy.

2423
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think what the stand culture ship and the

2424
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:28,960
Speaker 2: online like polarization, that's how you end up there where

2425
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 2: it's like everything they did is great, everything you know,

2426
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 2: and and like the other thing too, is I don't

2427
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 2: I know Jamail Hill don't fuck with Joe Biden like that,

2428
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 2: Like she don't like she's criticized him and all that

2429
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 2: shit before.

2430
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 3: It's just when you're in a position.

2431
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 1: That we have, why did we have to jump out?

2432
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:47,879
Speaker 3: And right, That's that's what I'm saying. When you're.

2433
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,880
Speaker 2: When you're in the position of the black person that

2434
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:56,480
Speaker 2: explains shit to white people, the pressure of having to

2435
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 2: always be that person gets the folks, and I think

2436
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,120
Speaker 2: that's how she end up explaining it, like because because

2437
02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 2: like what we're not seeing is her mentions where it's like, oh,

2438
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 2: so you're just not gonna say anything about this over

2439
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:11,440
Speaker 2: and over and so you know, she writes she writes

2440
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 2: for the fucking Atlantic, like at some point she gonna say,

2441
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, we've had this conversation me ain't you and

2442
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 2: been like, you know, you don't have to tell these

2443
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 2: nigga shit, right, you can just like continue to catch

2444
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 2: a check and fuck them like, don't let them they

2445
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 2: don't like it. You still get paid and you're like, nah,

2446
02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:29,040
Speaker 2: but I want to say this, so I want to

2447
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 2: do And I think that's that happens. No matter how

2448
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 2: big you are, on how famous you are, somebody like

2449
02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 2: Jamel Hill gonna end up in a situation where she

2450
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,720
Speaker 2: has to explain like this is why it's not a

2451
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 2: physical is because many, many, many black people think, if

2452
02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 2: you fuck with Trump and you're black, you ain't really black.

2453
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 3: And she ain't lye but you. I just wouldn't tell

2454
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:52,760
Speaker 3: nobody that that's all like you.

2455
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't right, like I save it for here because

2456
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, these niggs ain't gonna listen to this, but yeah, absolutely.

2457
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: Corrupt and untered. And I don't necessarily have to miss

2458
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 1: interpret tone, text, the language.

2459
02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 2: Right because I mean, like I said, when he said

2460
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 2: that ship, you know what I said, why did you

2461
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 2: go on there?

2462
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 3: That's the only thing I said. It was all like

2463
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:22,680
Speaker 3: it always ends up like this.

2464
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember listen when Elizabeth Warren went on that show?

2465
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 1: Was it last year? I said, I remember I spent

2466
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 1: all day arguing on Twitter. I said, if you niggas,

2467
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 1: don't vote for Elizabeth Warren because Charlemagne told you that

2468
02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:44,640
Speaker 1: she was pokenhonest, I will never fuck with you again.

2469
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 3: He called her Rachel dol dog like.

2470
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 1: He called her Rachel Dolar. Listen, we just listen. I

2471
02:12:56,440 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 1: will admit my blind spot. I ain't native. So Elizabeth

2472
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 1: Warren didn't harm Rapha Usney directly. If Natives people don't

2473
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 1: forgive her or will never forgive her, who am I

2474
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:12,880
Speaker 1: to say a single fucking thing about it? And you

2475
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:15,520
Speaker 1: could call me a hypocrite. I will talk through my

2476
02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: reasons with you. And if you still leave thinking I'm

2477
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 1: a hypocrite, God bless you. That's yours to have.

2478
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't even know how you can.

2479
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you could be a hypocrite

2480
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:28,480
Speaker 2: if you're gonna vote for Joe Biden, because that's us

2481
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,480
Speaker 2: being like, there's a thing that harmed us, and we're like,

2482
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 2: but we understand the context of everything now, and we're

2483
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 2: willing for the greater good of everybody, not just us, to.

2484
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 12: Let's specific exactly, and.

2485
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:47,560
Speaker 1: And and and and here we are listen, here's a

2486
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:52,640
Speaker 1: man who names his book Black Privilege. Okay, I can

2487
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 1: admit this now because it's years on. There was a

2488
02:13:56,600 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 1: weeknd like he has said some really like foul shit

2489
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 1: like about trans people on his TV show. And when

2490
02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:06,440
Speaker 1: I was on The President Show, we were supposed to

2491
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:11,920
Speaker 1: have Charlomagne on the show and we had Deray on instead,

2492
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 1: because in part, I want to say it was my decision.

2493
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 1: In part, I told my bosses. I was like, if

2494
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 1: y'all have Charlemagne on this show, asked this, you know,

2495
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:29,160
Speaker 1: transphobia shit and whatever, I'm gonna be the only black

2496
02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 1: female on your staff and I'm going to not be

2497
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 1: proud that I'm here, right, And so we ended up

2498
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 1: not getting him or whatever. And I just want to

2499
02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 1: understand how that person gets to be the kingmaker. I

2500
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 1: want to understand how that person who has not ever

2501
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 1: had our best interest in mind, he truly has a

2502
02:14:52,640 --> 02:14:55,600
Speaker 1: book called Black Privilege. And do you remember one time

2503
02:14:55,640 --> 02:14:58,000
Speaker 1: he told us it was okay for Justin Bieber to

2504
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:02,240
Speaker 1: call us nigga because we say it. I want to

2505
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:07,680
Speaker 1: understand how that person gets the first interview with black

2506
02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:13,160
Speaker 1: people besides Jesus, with Joe Biden. I want to understand

2507
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 1: how Hillary's hot sauce has anything to do with that.

2508
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 1: I want to understand how the nigga gets to cancel

2509
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris when he told me justin Bigboo could call

2510
02:15:24,600 --> 02:15:28,120
Speaker 1: me a nigga because I say, nigga at home gets

2511
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:30,160
Speaker 1: the whole fuck out of here.

2512
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2513
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 2: I think that's also the thing, like who selects that person? Right,

2514
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:37,560
Speaker 2: That's why it's like who gets in the door, who

2515
02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:39,240
Speaker 2: gets to maker.

2516
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:45,839
Speaker 1: White men white men? So in addition to whatever problems

2517
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:50,160
Speaker 1: white men have, white men love a cool black dude.

2518
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:53,480
Speaker 1: They don't have to compromise much of their identity to

2519
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 1: get the coolness rubbed off on them. In particular, I

2520
02:15:58,160 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 1: just remember how Ari e Mail was the person who

2521
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:03,600
Speaker 1: was interviewing him when he got protested by all those

2522
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 1: trans women at was a grastic nation. I don't remember

2523
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 1: what saying, uh it was on, but it was just

2524
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:16,520
Speaker 1: kind of like men, regardless of races. Just my opinion,

2525
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:19,280
Speaker 1: men will always bond over having big than one to

2526
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 1: violate people who don't. And Charlemagne is a perfect example

2527
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:27,800
Speaker 1: of that. He literally started his career making little Mama

2528
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 1: cride when her mama had just been a pleasure and

2529
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 1: if you think that that is a person who legitimately

2530
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:35,160
Speaker 1: has our back.

2531
02:16:36,280 --> 02:16:39,760
Speaker 2: And I think also white dudes like black people that

2532
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,720
Speaker 2: make them feel cool, right because like.

2533
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 1: Make them feel cool and regurgitates they have about us.

2534
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:49,120
Speaker 3: It's just justifying this, you know.

2535
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:51,800
Speaker 2: So it was but yeah, like that was the like

2536
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't even blame him that, like straight up, I

2537
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,240
Speaker 2: am whatever doing his job.

2538
02:16:57,360 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 3: That is what he do. Like that's literally own the

2539
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 3: campaign for.

2540
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:03,960
Speaker 2: That, Like, like that's the mistake that was made, Like

2541
02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:06,840
Speaker 2: a viral sound bite is what happens when people go

2542
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:09,080
Speaker 2: on that fucking show trying to talk about policy. We

2543
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:12,000
Speaker 2: had four or five different examples at this point. We

2544
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:17,640
Speaker 2: got a poker Rachel Dolas hot sauce kop Mala didn't listen,

2545
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:18,119
Speaker 2: she smoked.

2546
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:28,959
Speaker 1: Now we debate in on whether or not Tupac was born, and.

2547
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 2: So we end up with that, and that's not so

2548
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:30,320
Speaker 2: like that's on the campaign for that ship.

2549
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,520
Speaker 1: So I don't really I realized that I've just been

2550
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:37,000
Speaker 1: super negative about a bunch of people, So I want

2551
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:41,120
Speaker 1: to be clear to be also positive about people. I

2552
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:45,000
Speaker 1: love me some Robin CD. I love this woman who

2553
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:51,160
Speaker 1: works on MSc MSNBC called Christina Greer. I listened to

2554
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,960
Speaker 1: the read, listen to you guys or whatever. I just

2555
02:17:54,959 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 1: wanted to love Robin.

2556
02:17:56,320 --> 02:17:57,040
Speaker 3: We love Robin.

2557
02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:03,560
Speaker 2: Rob is back at the cookout okay as well.

2558
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:06,840
Speaker 1: So I just want to I love Sara McDonald's. She

2559
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 1: got herself a little little pulleter nomination pretty recently. I

2560
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 1: don't want it to seem like I'm purposely on y'all's

2561
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 1: platform to shot on other black people. And you know,

2562
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't want it to come off like I'm a

2563
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:20,840
Speaker 1: certain kind of black whatever. I just you know, I

2564
02:18:20,920 --> 02:18:23,840
Speaker 1: love I love black people too.

2565
02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:25,960
Speaker 3: It's all you do.

2566
02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't think you came off like that, but you know,

2567
02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 2: it's good to check because these niggas will be mad

2568
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:32,640
Speaker 2: if they ever hear.

2569
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:34,879
Speaker 3: Us out of context. That's what happens.

2570
02:18:35,640 --> 02:18:39,560
Speaker 1: Three and Lawrence's fine as fuck from Insecure. Good god,

2571
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:40,680
Speaker 1: good god?

2572
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:42,840
Speaker 2: Did you see what the haircut? Do you see you

2573
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:44,800
Speaker 2: seeing what the haircut? In the airport this week?

2574
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:45,959
Speaker 4: Yes?

2575
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 3: Wait, wait till you get to.

2576
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:51,160
Speaker 1: This week or am I gonna be in trouble? Are

2577
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 1: my pants going to be ruined?

2578
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:53,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2579
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean I think mad, I mean I think with

2580
02:18:56,440 --> 02:19:00,880
Speaker 2: everybody being in quarantine and with people not even be

2581
02:19:00,920 --> 02:19:03,039
Speaker 2: able to get to a barber and all this shit.

2582
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 2: I think it was my girl Queen from Teva Queen

2583
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:08,480
Speaker 2: and Jay. She was like, this is just Therona making

2584
02:19:08,600 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 2: us thirst over people harder because she was like, don't

2585
02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:12,160
Speaker 2: be food.

2586
02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:16,000
Speaker 3: Lawrence got Lawrence got an edge up it. Nobody else

2587
02:19:16,080 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 3: do right now. That sh it was funny, but.

2588
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:27,040
Speaker 1: There's you know, whenever black man on TV got a

2589
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:28,640
Speaker 1: nice you know it is.

2590
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:32,160
Speaker 2: I feel like barbers and people that's been cutting their

2591
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 2: oun hair got an advantage right now in Corona because

2592
02:19:34,920 --> 02:19:37,720
Speaker 2: it's like, look at this motherfucker boy, you looking great.

2593
02:19:37,800 --> 02:19:39,760
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, everybody else gotta put a hat on

2594
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 2: your mom.

2595
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm here with this like head dance and whatever. I

2596
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:49,760
Speaker 1: literally just cut my dress to hide my edges to y'all, like, I.

2597
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 4: Love you were saying that your hair and stuff was

2598
02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:51,959
Speaker 4: growing out.

2599
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:52,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

2600
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:56,080
Speaker 1: My hair is going out right now. I've been telling

2601
02:19:56,080 --> 02:20:01,200
Speaker 1: people that I have enough hair to put extensions into

2602
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:04,039
Speaker 1: corn row it like the cast and making the band,

2603
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:10,040
Speaker 1: but that I don't corn row it, like the looking

2604
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:13,279
Speaker 1: like I'm looking like a rapper who trying to front,

2605
02:20:13,360 --> 02:20:15,560
Speaker 1: like he has to put some weeds in his corn.

2606
02:20:15,400 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 2: Roads, like we were What if that's the effect that

2607
02:20:18,360 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 2: the coronavirus has on black population as everybody emerges with

2608
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 2: like afros and beautiful natural hair. Shit, It's like, Oh,

2609
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:30,320
Speaker 2: if we just had nothing else to do, we could

2610
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:32,400
Speaker 2: have we could have grown this ship.

2611
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:35,960
Speaker 1: We would love ourselves. We would love myself. The white

2612
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:40,640
Speaker 1: people just left us slow, So stay in the house. No, seriously,

2613
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm having such a I know we should go because

2614
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:46,560
Speaker 1: we out here almost have four hours I called us.

2615
02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:52,279
Speaker 1: But like, I'm in a weird place right now because, uh,

2616
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 1: for the last two years I've been rocking a low

2617
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:59,160
Speaker 1: sade designs and everything like. So this is me not

2618
02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:02,680
Speaker 1: having cut my hair from December and one. I love

2619
02:21:02,760 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 1: how it's still not long because I'm African and I

2620
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:09,400
Speaker 1: have no hangtime. Look at this force. Yes, I'm never

2621
02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna fucking I can't take anything.

2622
02:21:17,320 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 3: You just gotta put them.

2623
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:25,440
Speaker 1: Get into a fight with with a woman on this

2624
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,960
Speaker 1: train because I keep whisping her with my hair when

2625
02:21:27,959 --> 02:21:29,360
Speaker 1: I turned to the left of right.

2626
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:39,280
Speaker 2: We're so off topic at this point, but it just

2627
02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:41,880
Speaker 2: made me think of something else. Have y'all seen the

2628
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:44,880
Speaker 2: videos of the women that are accidentally quote unquote hitting

2629
02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 2: their man with.

2630
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:47,119
Speaker 3: The purse in the car.

2631
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 2: So like the man is sitting in a fashion seat

2632
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 2: and the women record themselves on the front seat and

2633
02:21:54,680 --> 02:21:55,279
Speaker 2: they take.

2634
02:21:55,240 --> 02:21:57,959
Speaker 3: The person they hit them upside their head with it.

2635
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 2: They're putting it in the backseat, and they like, like

2636
02:22:03,879 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 2: what he's like right?

2637
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:07,680
Speaker 3: It was like like and if they don't get them,

2638
02:22:07,720 --> 02:22:08,720
Speaker 3: like if the first time of.

2639
02:22:08,720 --> 02:22:10,440
Speaker 2: These like super cool about it where it's like he

2640
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 2: don't even notice it. They hit him like two or

2641
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:18,000
Speaker 2: three times. Manutil they be like what why secret?

2642
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

2643
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:23,560
Speaker 1: You can't the situation, but you take your little power.

2644
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,240
Speaker 3: I don't know when this started. I'm assuming these are people.

2645
02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:30,400
Speaker 2: It seems to be people in good, heavy relationships. I assume,

2646
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:32,120
Speaker 2: because who would try this with some nigga that you

2647
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:33,320
Speaker 2: think is violent?

2648
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:35,360
Speaker 3: Right, But like they hit the.

2649
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Dude controlling a little bit.

2650
02:22:39,440 --> 02:22:42,280
Speaker 3: Hey, maybe they just look you could be.

2651
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:45,760
Speaker 1: On the phone with your homeboy after a certain time, okay,

2652
02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:49,480
Speaker 1: now you you now you buckling the baby in and

2653
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:51,240
Speaker 1: you just happen to bring you on.

2654
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:54,320
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know them people.

2655
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:56,760
Speaker 2: Maybe every single lass dude on their deserves and I

2656
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,440
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck what I do find is that

2657
02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:01,959
Speaker 2: it's so awkwardly like funny or whatever.

2658
02:23:02,959 --> 02:23:04,960
Speaker 3: Well, my favorite is the one dude just hitting the

2659
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:06,879
Speaker 3: face and he just like he got hit in the

2660
02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:07,280
Speaker 3: face like.

2661
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:08,800
Speaker 2: Three times and he's just like trying to be on

2662
02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:10,640
Speaker 2: his phone and he finally just looks up.

2663
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:11,879
Speaker 3: He goes, are we good?

2664
02:23:12,520 --> 02:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Like okay, we need to talk, like what the fuck?

2665
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:21,360
Speaker 3: Yea like three times in their heads.

2666
02:23:21,400 --> 02:23:24,000
Speaker 2: Feels like I did something wrong. I don't know what

2667
02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 2: I did, Like, I don't know. Those videos cracked me.

2668
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 4: Can you explain, ma'am.

2669
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:30,440
Speaker 2: But also those are perfect examples of videos that wouldn't

2670
02:23:30,440 --> 02:23:33,160
Speaker 2: be funny the other way. Right, it's like this is hilarious,

2671
02:23:34,280 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 2: Like it's hilarious now, but it's like if Nicks was

2672
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:39,680
Speaker 2: slacking women for the CA like, no, we can't watch this.

2673
02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:42,400
Speaker 3: This is turn this report to to the police.

2674
02:23:42,879 --> 02:23:46,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, listen, I just want to be clear

2675
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:51,440
Speaker 1: that whenever people accuse me of having double standards, that.

2676
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, life is a double standard.

2677
02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah truly.

2678
02:23:57,640 --> 02:24:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, my mom can call me an asshole,

2679
02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:03,840
Speaker 1: and if you call me an asshole, we're gonna have

2680
02:24:03,879 --> 02:24:06,400
Speaker 1: a problem. I don't fuck to tell you that's just

2681
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:08,680
Speaker 1: a double standard. I don't know.

2682
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say pay women with a man makes and

2683
02:24:12,280 --> 02:24:14,160
Speaker 2: then we can start talking about them standards.

2684
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:18,240
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you mean. I asked you on

2685
02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:20,920
Speaker 1: to date, nigga. Yeah, I asked you on today, hoping

2686
02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:24,120
Speaker 1: you will pay for it, because I asked my boss

2687
02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 1: for a raise and the nigga didn't give it to me, so.

2688
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:32,200
Speaker 6: Asking we ain't getting, yeah, people to pay because you

2689
02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:34,199
Speaker 6: make more money, my nigga, you make more money.

2690
02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 1: I think it's really crazy. And I'm not even like

2691
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 1: just saying that like for a joke, like it being

2692
02:24:42,680 --> 02:24:46,879
Speaker 1: really crazy. I have a lot of low self esteem issues,

2693
02:24:46,959 --> 02:24:50,160
Speaker 1: like in general, but then there's so much other shit

2694
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:54,240
Speaker 1: compounded on top of that, and not even on some

2695
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 1: like oh my manager and people don't fight for me

2696
02:24:57,640 --> 02:25:02,840
Speaker 1: because they do. But like I'll hear about deals that

2697
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:08,040
Speaker 1: other TV writers have got, or you know, you know,

2698
02:25:08,200 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 1: how much they pushed somebody to push their album out

2699
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:14,800
Speaker 1: early or something like that, and I'm like, you asked

2700
02:25:14,879 --> 02:25:18,400
Speaker 1: them for that. I'm like, yeah, that's first, what's the fun?

2701
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:21,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like I've been collecting six hundred

2702
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:24,520
Speaker 1: extra dollars a week for six years. I'll be like

2703
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:27,320
Speaker 1: what and you don't have to pay them that that's

2704
02:25:27,440 --> 02:25:32,840
Speaker 1: not much like I like, I have no concepts of deserve,

2705
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:40,039
Speaker 1: and so when when people offer women for free, I

2706
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 1: will take because I probably would never see whatever thing

2707
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:47,120
Speaker 1: that is unless I hear that other people have asked for,

2708
02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:49,440
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't even occur to me to have the

2709
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:53,360
Speaker 1: self seemed to decide that I deserve something it should

2710
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:57,760
Speaker 1: go after. It's actually wild that I'm even, you know,

2711
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:02,240
Speaker 1: as successful as I am, because there's lit her really

2712
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:05,480
Speaker 1: no self esteeming points.

2713
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:09,000
Speaker 2: But you know what's crazy though, you knowing you for

2714
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:11,480
Speaker 2: this long or whatever, you also put so much pressure

2715
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:15,480
Speaker 2: on yourself so like like you'll be like you'll straight

2716
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:18,560
Speaker 2: up be on something like if I don't have Blake

2717
02:26:18,640 --> 02:26:20,120
Speaker 2: by the time I'm thirty, I don't know what the

2718
02:26:20,120 --> 02:26:20,760
Speaker 2: fuck I'm gonna do.

2719
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:23,400
Speaker 3: And in my mind, I'm like, thirty is so fucking young.

2720
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Like it's like I was talking about therapist and she

2721
02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:30,680
Speaker 2: was like, uh, she said I was a perfectionist, and

2722
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck no, I'm not like I'm

2723
02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:36,600
Speaker 2: I let you slides up about and then she started

2724
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:38,680
Speaker 2: breaking down like, well, you said this, and you said this,

2725
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:40,960
Speaker 2: and you talk about being disappointed yourself. You talk about

2726
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:43,840
Speaker 2: people being disappointed and you that only happens if you're

2727
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 2: thinking there's a level of perfection or something out there

2728
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 2: you can attain where all this goes away.

2729
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 3: And that's not true. And she's like, you know, your work,

2730
02:26:52,879 --> 02:26:53,240
Speaker 3: it's this.

2731
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 2: You're you're always thinking of the things you can control

2732
02:26:55,680 --> 02:26:58,440
Speaker 2: in your work, the things you can control, instead of

2733
02:26:58,520 --> 02:27:01,279
Speaker 2: like pushing for these out outside of stuff and asking

2734
02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:04,200
Speaker 2: for more. Then, like you said, then I think I

2735
02:27:04,280 --> 02:27:07,760
Speaker 2: quote unquote deserve. But yeah, you look around. We did

2736
02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:10,000
Speaker 2: that article about the white podcasters and I was like,

2737
02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 2: these niggas get money, like they don't.

2738
02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 3: They get money and they look at the money and

2739
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:18,040
Speaker 3: be like this all the money, that's it. I'm going home.

2740
02:27:20,480 --> 02:27:24,400
Speaker 1: It's really crazy because I totally feel you on that,

2741
02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:27,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure caring You can relate on a woman

2742
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:32,840
Speaker 1: level too, because you are not only do you have

2743
02:27:32,959 --> 02:27:37,840
Speaker 1: this innate kind of perfectionist thing in you, but when

2744
02:27:37,879 --> 02:27:41,039
Speaker 1: you're a woman, you kind of learn that it's impolite

2745
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:44,320
Speaker 1: to want better for yourself, and you learn that it's

2746
02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:48,039
Speaker 1: like you have to sit there and it's rude to

2747
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:52,720
Speaker 1: think that you deserve more, even as you deserve more.

2748
02:27:52,920 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And.

2749
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:57,600
Speaker 6: I think what I've learned, and I'm still getting better

2750
02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:01,240
Speaker 6: at this, but what I've learned about getting older is

2751
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:05,560
Speaker 6: that you have to break the chains of what defines

2752
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:09,480
Speaker 6: being a woman, because everybody has these things drilled in

2753
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:12,760
Speaker 6: them from a very young age about what it's just.

2754
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Like sitting back here all the time, and it'll come

2755
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 1: up random, right, I know, I thought that, right.

2756
02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:22,480
Speaker 6: And and and and that's very hard to do, you know,

2757
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:26,320
Speaker 6: because if I ask, I'm rude. You know, If I demand,

2758
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:28,600
Speaker 6: I'm rude. If I do this, I'm a bitch. If

2759
02:28:28,600 --> 02:28:30,119
Speaker 6: I do this, you're.

2760
02:28:31,720 --> 02:28:35,119
Speaker 1: Kind, You're right, you know, if.

2761
02:28:34,959 --> 02:28:39,600
Speaker 6: You do right, if you do all these things, all

2762
02:28:39,640 --> 02:28:44,360
Speaker 6: of a sudden, it becomes a problem. And I think

2763
02:28:44,480 --> 02:28:49,000
Speaker 6: for me personally, us doing this and actually starting our

2764
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:52,039
Speaker 6: own business help my mind kind of expand because I've

2765
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 6: always been a dreamer, like I kind.

2766
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:55,560
Speaker 4: Of go, okay, this.

2767
02:28:57,200 --> 02:29:00,000
Speaker 6: Person, you know, I always always am and I'm I'm

2768
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:02,600
Speaker 6: I'm the type of person where I'm always quote unquote

2769
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:06,000
Speaker 6: in the clouds. I'm like, Okay, these these things are possible.

2770
02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:08,800
Speaker 6: These things are possible. But the thing is, I always

2771
02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 6: have those wishes and dreams and hopes for everybody else,

2772
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:13,320
Speaker 6: these things are possible for you.

2773
02:29:13,320 --> 02:29:16,640
Speaker 4: You go like like like like, I am very good.

2774
02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:20,359
Speaker 6: At pushing other people to be the best version of themselves,

2775
02:29:20,879 --> 02:29:23,400
Speaker 6: but when it comes to me sometimes that's very hard

2776
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:24,560
Speaker 6: because I'm like.

2777
02:29:24,520 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 1: You was like taught you that? Who taught you to

2778
02:29:28,560 --> 02:29:33,080
Speaker 1: uh support instead of chase? Because I also feel like

2779
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I learned to support instead of chase? And my mom

2780
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:39,720
Speaker 1: is an artistic genius and she never chases. She just

2781
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:43,680
Speaker 1: supported my daddy, who I love them, ain't as dope.

2782
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:48,760
Speaker 1: Who taught you to support and not chase? Whether a

2783
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:51,880
Speaker 1: girl or was it a man, Whether a girl who

2784
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:55,160
Speaker 1: had internalized that, or was it a man who had

2785
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:58,119
Speaker 1: crushed all of off female women?

2786
02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:02,360
Speaker 6: For me, it was just part of my personality of

2787
02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:07,120
Speaker 6: not wanting to disrupt the room, not want because I

2788
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:09,760
Speaker 6: was by the very old school of children were meant

2789
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:11,960
Speaker 6: to be seen and not heard. I hate that fucking phrase,

2790
02:30:12,000 --> 02:30:13,320
Speaker 6: but a lot of people believe that.

2791
02:30:13,480 --> 02:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Do you have any boy children in your life? Though?

2792
02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:19,640
Speaker 1: Because I learned women or children are not supposed to

2793
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:22,440
Speaker 1: be seen, children are not supposed to are supposed to

2794
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:25,039
Speaker 1: be seen and not heard. And then my brother was

2795
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:27,200
Speaker 1: heard even though I wasn't supposed to be heard. So

2796
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:30,600
Speaker 1: then I started talking and then it became cool. But

2797
02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I was told girls weren't supposed to talk, and then

2798
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:35,520
Speaker 1: I saw boys talking and I was like, well, that's

2799
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:40,680
Speaker 1: not fair. So who told you to that as a child,

2800
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:42,840
Speaker 1: because I'm sure if there was a man around or

2801
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:45,360
Speaker 1: a boy child around, he probably got to talk even

2802
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:47,440
Speaker 1: when they told you he wasn't supposed to be talking.

2803
02:30:48,080 --> 02:30:51,320
Speaker 4: But see, I think with me being an only child.

2804
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:51,800
Speaker 3: I've never.

2805
02:30:53,440 --> 02:30:56,119
Speaker 1: Apologies. No no, no, no, no no no.

2806
02:30:56,680 --> 02:31:00,240
Speaker 6: I've had male cousins and things around me, and they work,

2807
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:02,800
Speaker 6: they got to speak out, they got to be demanding.

2808
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:07,600
Speaker 6: But I always looked at it as they're just being boys,

2809
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:12,119
Speaker 6: if that makes sense, And I thought, for me, you know,

2810
02:31:12,440 --> 02:31:14,560
Speaker 6: that wouldn't be quote unquote ladylike it.

2811
02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 4: But you know, but you know what say weird, Yes,

2812
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:20,680
Speaker 4: But but what's weird is that.

2813
02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:25,520
Speaker 6: As I've gotten older, I began to be more aggressive

2814
02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:27,720
Speaker 6: because I was the one that pursued Roderick.

2815
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:30,640
Speaker 4: You know, so on certain things.

2816
02:31:30,840 --> 02:31:39,959
Speaker 1: You know, wait talking about I have never chased anybody

2817
02:31:39,959 --> 02:31:44,160
Speaker 1: who wanted to say chased. Listen, you in a whole marriage,

2818
02:31:44,200 --> 02:31:45,440
Speaker 1: every nigga, I've chased.

2819
02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:51,039
Speaker 6: It was one of those things where I went, I

2820
02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:55,440
Speaker 6: like him, I like him a lot. I hope it

2821
02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:59,680
Speaker 6: goes somewhere. And I remember this, Uh my mama, she

2822
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:02,280
Speaker 6: had had two tickets to some play. This is wait

2823
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:03,600
Speaker 6: for a tile of period. But it was like a

2824
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:05,440
Speaker 6: time of shop to beauty shop too.

2825
02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:06,279
Speaker 3: I remember that.

2826
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:13,320
Speaker 1: And talk like the movie. No, no, no, it.

2827
02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Was a p I don't know.

2828
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 1: It was a play before the movie.

2829
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:20,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is related at all. I

2830
02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:21,600
Speaker 3: just know that that was the name of the play.

2831
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the name of the play.

2832
02:32:23,040 --> 02:32:24,959
Speaker 6: Like we went to like a movie theater and we

2833
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:27,080
Speaker 6: got to see it and watching all that stuff.

2834
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:28,920
Speaker 1: How old were y'all? Because I know you guys have

2835
02:32:28,959 --> 02:32:29,640
Speaker 1: been together.

2836
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:29,920
Speaker 3: A long time.

2837
02:32:30,320 --> 02:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Sixteen sixteen?

2838
02:32:32,560 --> 02:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Wait, so you was chasing the niggas a sixteen Oh

2839
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:47,400
Speaker 1: my god, wait, come out, come on, come on. Can

2840
02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:49,959
Speaker 1: you imagine being sixteen and being like, but I know,

2841
02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:56,480
Speaker 1: my pussy's good, what's up? I'm thirty two, and I'm like,

2842
02:32:57,520 --> 02:32:59,000
Speaker 1: it's juicy some days.

2843
02:32:59,240 --> 02:33:04,400
Speaker 12: But yeah, No, it was one of those things where

2844
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:09,240
Speaker 12: because the thing about Roderick is that me and him

2845
02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:12,720
Speaker 12: had actually been riding the bus together when you sit

2846
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:15,160
Speaker 12: in the in the front seat, right behind the bus driver.

2847
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:20,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, we were both dreams.

2848
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:22,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I would sit right right behind the bus

2849
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:24,800
Speaker 6: driver and I would save a spot for him.

2850
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:27,800
Speaker 4: Every single started. You knew not to sit there. That

2851
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:28,760
Speaker 4: was his spot.

2852
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:31,200
Speaker 6: So me and him would sit there and we would

2853
02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:33,920
Speaker 6: just talk about all these different types of.

2854
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:36,240
Speaker 4: Things, and and and we and.

2855
02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:38,760
Speaker 6: And the thing is what was funny is that when

2856
02:33:38,760 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 6: me and Roderick talked on the phone, we always picked

2857
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 6: up regardless of how long it was, like the conversation

2858
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:45,680
Speaker 6: never ended.

2859
02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:48,320
Speaker 4: You know. Our parents have to rush us off the phone,

2860
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:50,279
Speaker 4: you know. So it's one of those things.

2861
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:52,360
Speaker 6: And I think for me, when I realized that Roger

2862
02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:55,280
Speaker 6: actually listened to me because I talked, I talked a lot,

2863
02:33:55,320 --> 02:33:56,440
Speaker 6: but most people didn't listen to me.

2864
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:58,000
Speaker 4: They was like if you don't shut.

2865
02:33:57,800 --> 02:33:59,120
Speaker 3: The hell up, you know.

2866
02:33:59,360 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 6: For Red, I was like, you still talking, Like like

2867
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:05,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I could I have literally taught

2868
02:34:05,600 --> 02:34:07,280
Speaker 6: people to sleep and they will be sleeping.

2869
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:08,959
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give a damn. I would just keep talking

2870
02:34:08,959 --> 02:34:10,080
Speaker 4: to them because I had to talk.

2871
02:34:10,160 --> 02:34:13,240
Speaker 6: I was one of them kids that you just wanted

2872
02:34:13,280 --> 02:34:15,640
Speaker 6: to take take some demth take and put it around

2873
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:18,360
Speaker 6: her mouth and be like, please, baby, please, please, maybe

2874
02:34:18,360 --> 02:34:18,880
Speaker 6: be quiet.

2875
02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:22,360
Speaker 4: Have we heard enough of your voice to day?

2876
02:34:24,360 --> 02:34:29,480
Speaker 1: I was one of enough kids got her sucking hystergirl.

2877
02:34:30,840 --> 02:34:34,360
Speaker 6: Yes, my mama would tell you, Lord, have mercy, Karen,

2878
02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:37,080
Speaker 6: you would talk anybody to death.

2879
02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:39,480
Speaker 4: I would say I probably would if you allowed me to.

2880
02:34:40,879 --> 02:34:45,480
Speaker 1: That is so funny. That is incredibly sweet. I love

2881
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:48,160
Speaker 1: this story. So what now we had twenty years or

2882
02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:48,800
Speaker 1: something like that.

2883
02:34:50,520 --> 02:34:50,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2884
02:34:50,959 --> 02:34:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't Let's see, so we've been dating twenty We've

2885
02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:59,160
Speaker 2: been dating like twenty five twenty six years, and cause,

2886
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:02,160
Speaker 2: like I think, shut up.

2887
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Twenty five years is young enough for people to see

2888
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:12,080
Speaker 1: remaking movies and you out here over than that crazy?

2889
02:35:12,520 --> 02:35:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we got married in September two

2890
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:16,240
Speaker 2: thousand and two.

2891
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:20,720
Speaker 1: So wait, okay, I have questions because you guys, this

2892
02:35:20,840 --> 02:35:23,600
Speaker 1: is very rude, but I'm gonna ask you anyway. You

2893
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:28,959
Speaker 1: guys clearly aren't having children, so it wasn't a shotgun wedding.

2894
02:35:29,080 --> 02:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Why did you get married? So y'all?

2895
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh, because Karen's mom was just super pressed about getting

2896
02:35:38,560 --> 02:35:40,000
Speaker 2: her out of the house for some reason.

2897
02:35:40,040 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2898
02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeahs still from North Carolina.

2899
02:35:43,360 --> 02:35:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know why though. It was just

2900
02:35:45,879 --> 02:35:49,120
Speaker 2: like I don't know because she was a year behind

2901
02:35:49,120 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 2: me in college. So it was like I was working

2902
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:55,640
Speaker 2: my first job, which wasn't a lot of money, and

2903
02:35:55,680 --> 02:35:59,119
Speaker 2: I was staying with my parents, and then she got

2904
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:00,760
Speaker 2: home and we were trying to save up money that

2905
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:03,160
Speaker 2: summer and waiting for her to get a job job,

2906
02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:06,359
Speaker 2: but she was working as a waitress at like Shawny's

2907
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 2: or something, and then her mom just started tripping, like

2908
02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:14,199
Speaker 2: like just out of nowhere. And it was like, well,

2909
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't you know, because I'm like listening to Karen

2910
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:17,959
Speaker 2: talk about it every day.

2911
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:20,240
Speaker 3: I was like, well, you sound miserable.

2912
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:22,920
Speaker 2: We might as well just move in together and be

2913
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:25,560
Speaker 2: broke together and won't be miserable.

2914
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:27,160
Speaker 3: So that's what we did.

2915
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:32,920
Speaker 1: So that's so it's like a forced sweetness, but it's

2916
02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:35,960
Speaker 1: very sweet, but I also understand the pressure. And it's

2917
02:36:36,040 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 1: weird because your mom thinks that they want the best

2918
02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 1: for you, that you know, they need to make sure

2919
02:36:41,879 --> 02:36:46,000
Speaker 1: that a man values you, like I remember. I remember

2920
02:36:46,120 --> 02:36:49,959
Speaker 1: like I had gotten sexually assaulted in college, and like

2921
02:36:51,240 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 1: I got sexually faulted and the person left me with

2922
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:57,800
Speaker 1: an stv oh that's a lot of things in public,

2923
02:36:58,160 --> 02:37:02,280
Speaker 1: but it's what happened. And my mom was consoling me,

2924
02:37:02,480 --> 02:37:04,480
Speaker 1: and she told me that I was au dentic can

2925
02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:06,640
Speaker 1: that nobody was gonna want you know what I mean.

2926
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:11,440
Speaker 1: And that's just and that sticks with you.

2927
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:17,080
Speaker 2: But because they're they're parent and they feel like they're helping.

2928
02:37:17,480 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Yes, he really thought, She really thought, like, hey, get

2929
02:37:22,600 --> 02:37:26,200
Speaker 1: rid of that. It was HTV guys, nothing crazy, just

2930
02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 1: a little more, you know. But like but like she

2931
02:37:30,400 --> 02:37:34,560
Speaker 1: she was, she was really nervous because she she's a

2932
02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Nigerian woman born in the fifties. Your virginity and your

2933
02:37:39,560 --> 02:37:41,920
Speaker 1: purity was all that mattered. So she here's the question,

2934
02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:46,160
Speaker 1: help me understand. And on top of that, she was

2935
02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:50,240
Speaker 1: here trying to understand. Helped me regain a sense of value. Right,

2936
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:53,840
Speaker 1: but okay, now Rod has to marry you, Rod has

2937
02:37:53,879 --> 02:37:56,120
Speaker 1: to move you in, Rod has to marry you. But

2938
02:37:56,360 --> 02:38:01,200
Speaker 1: in that pressure that's applied making you like nothing in

2939
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:03,720
Speaker 1: the means was well for this.

2940
02:38:03,800 --> 02:38:06,879
Speaker 2: It was like first well, first of all, obviously you

2941
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 2: know I've said it before, but obviously sorry that that

2942
02:38:09,560 --> 02:38:10,080
Speaker 2: happened to you.

2943
02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Terrible, No, I'm over it. And I just talked about

2944
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:17,000
Speaker 1: it casually. But I realized that other people when they

2945
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:20,120
Speaker 1: encounter me talking about it, they're like, hey, nigga, I

2946
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:22,520
Speaker 1: just heard you got raped for the first time. But really,

2947
02:38:22,840 --> 02:38:24,320
Speaker 1: I promise every time.

2948
02:38:24,320 --> 02:38:26,560
Speaker 3: I always always feel I'm sad.

2949
02:38:26,760 --> 02:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always feel obligated to say it because like

2950
02:38:29,440 --> 02:38:32,800
Speaker 2: we've talked about it before, but just people listening out

2951
02:38:32,800 --> 02:38:35,000
Speaker 2: there in the world will be like, these niggas didn't even.

2952
02:38:34,920 --> 02:38:37,840
Speaker 3: Say shit, so she really, yeah, they just moved on.

2953
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:40,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, God, like, nothing happened.

2954
02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Rape is so casual and really, but really, it's twenty

2955
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:51,120
Speaker 1: five percent of the female population is experiencing sis. It

2956
02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:53,880
Speaker 1: ain't a conversation stopper, right, you know what I mean?

2957
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:57,560
Speaker 1: And I just hate that it is a conversation stopper

2958
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:00,760
Speaker 1: because now we get obsessed with the thing that happened

2959
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,400
Speaker 1: rather than the correction, because now everybody's sitting here. I mean,

2960
02:39:04,480 --> 02:39:06,920
Speaker 1: I could go on forever about how I've tried to

2961
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:10,119
Speaker 1: do rape jokes on stage and niggas won't laugh at

2962
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 1: me because they're obsessed with my victimhood when I'm on

2963
02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the other side. I'm on the joke telling side or something,

2964
02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:19,400
Speaker 1: but you're looking at my physical body and telling me

2965
02:39:19,440 --> 02:39:22,160
Speaker 1: that it's been violated and you living in that violation,

2966
02:39:22,680 --> 02:39:25,480
Speaker 1: rather than engaging with me as the human who's over it.

2967
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:26,600
Speaker 1: So I could joke about it.

2968
02:39:26,959 --> 02:39:30,320
Speaker 3: You can't even say it about your own experience. That's crazy.

2969
02:39:30,520 --> 02:39:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah how long?

2970
02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:36,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, go ahead? What oh? But I was gonna say,

2971
02:39:36,320 --> 02:39:37,199
Speaker 3: oh yeah.

2972
02:39:37,240 --> 02:39:39,000
Speaker 2: It was like she just started adding like all these

2973
02:39:39,040 --> 02:39:43,240
Speaker 2: weird like like money things to everything, like pay for

2974
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:45,720
Speaker 2: this and do this and just shit that she hadn't

2975
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:48,039
Speaker 2: been doing before, and it made it so it's like,

2976
02:39:48,120 --> 02:39:48,920
Speaker 2: let's just move in.

2977
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:51,560
Speaker 3: But we got like literally.

2978
02:39:51,560 --> 02:39:54,200
Speaker 2: Uh, we got engaged in college because I was like,

2979
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:57,200
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm gonna marry, so it's just

2980
02:39:57,240 --> 02:40:00,640
Speaker 2: a matter when when we can do it whatever. So

2981
02:40:00,680 --> 02:40:04,440
Speaker 2: then we uh, that week was more No, it was

2982
02:40:04,520 --> 02:40:08,039
Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend, so like we went, did all the

2983
02:40:08,040 --> 02:40:11,040
Speaker 2: stuff for the apartment, got our moving date or whatever,

2984
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:14,480
Speaker 2: and I want to say, we moved in. That was

2985
02:40:14,520 --> 02:40:16,480
Speaker 2: it Sunday or Monday or something.

2986
02:40:16,600 --> 02:40:18,760
Speaker 6: And we actually tried to get married then, and they

2987
02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:19,960
Speaker 6: was like, no, nigga, you need to.

2988
02:40:20,240 --> 02:40:20,960
Speaker 3: It's the weekend.

2989
02:40:21,040 --> 02:40:24,600
Speaker 6: You need witnesses and witnesses like y'all, y'all need somebody

2990
02:40:24,680 --> 02:40:26,160
Speaker 6: y'all can't just walk up in here and get married.

2991
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:31,120
Speaker 3: So we actually got married on Labor Day. Labor Day. Yeah,

2992
02:40:31,120 --> 02:40:33,160
Speaker 3: we got married on Labor Day. And that's how. That's how.

2993
02:40:33,480 --> 02:40:35,520
Speaker 2: And we didn't have a wedding any of that ship.

2994
02:40:35,600 --> 02:40:37,840
Speaker 2: We just came to work and people was like, why

2995
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:40,720
Speaker 2: are you wiring in a wedding band? You got married,

2996
02:40:40,840 --> 02:40:42,920
Speaker 2: got married on the weekend. They're like, you're not even

2997
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:45,280
Speaker 2: gonna tell anybody. I was like, well, first of all,

2998
02:40:45,320 --> 02:40:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't even funck with y'all like that, Uh, y'all

2999
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:49,480
Speaker 2: are coworkers.

3000
02:40:50,360 --> 02:40:53,279
Speaker 3: But then yeah, it was that's yeah.

3001
02:40:53,120 --> 02:40:55,680
Speaker 6: And uh, race signed to give you a backstory. As

3002
02:40:55,720 --> 02:40:58,520
Speaker 6: I got older and me and my mamagain.

3003
02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I just pray. I love to hear from you. Wesley Snipe,

3004
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:09,160
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipe.

3005
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:09,400
Speaker 7: You are.

3006
02:41:11,680 --> 02:41:14,200
Speaker 1: You aren't so sweet? Karen? I love it. I love it.

3007
02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Your smile is perfect. It's really rude. I'm jealous because

3008
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:20,680
Speaker 1: I had Races, But my people were like, hey, fuck,

3009
02:41:20,840 --> 02:41:26,120
Speaker 1: you're retainer and so here we are. So your smile

3010
02:41:26,280 --> 02:41:29,400
Speaker 1: is so beautiful and you bring I love it shurry,

3011
02:41:31,920 --> 02:41:32,879
Speaker 1: So that's cool.

3012
02:41:32,959 --> 02:41:35,600
Speaker 6: As I got older and me and my mama talked,

3013
02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 6: I kind of pieced together. While my mama, she's really

3014
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:43,000
Speaker 6: old school as far as the non emotional type of person.

3015
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:45,280
Speaker 6: You know, she didn't tell me she loved me till

3016
02:41:45,320 --> 02:41:47,920
Speaker 6: I was much older, because she wouldn't have touchy, touchy

3017
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:51,160
Speaker 6: philly type of person. And what was happening is that

3018
02:41:52,120 --> 02:41:54,400
Speaker 6: in her mind she thought she was losing me because

3019
02:41:54,760 --> 02:41:57,040
Speaker 6: I'm older now, so now I can reflect back and see.

3020
02:41:57,520 --> 02:41:59,680
Speaker 1: So in her mind, she if you don't mind me,

3021
02:42:00,959 --> 02:42:03,959
Speaker 1: had she has she had like a full life or

3022
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:06,279
Speaker 1: like a family before you kim around.

3023
02:42:06,120 --> 02:42:08,879
Speaker 4: M Yeah, got it.

3024
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were like her second adulthood or whatever.

3025
02:42:14,959 --> 02:42:17,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, because the woman I call my mama isn't my

3026
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:18,720
Speaker 6: mama mom, she's my aunt.

3027
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:22,760
Speaker 1: And so okay, she had had a life and then

3028
02:42:22,879 --> 02:42:23,280
Speaker 1: came in.

3029
02:42:23,320 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 6: And so when she got met me at nine months old,

3030
02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:29,000
Speaker 6: So she got me when she was forty.

3031
02:42:29,080 --> 02:42:31,240
Speaker 4: So it's like a forty year old basically having.

3032
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Another Oh yeah, got it.

3033
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:35,920
Speaker 6: So she got so she literally raised me, so I

3034
02:42:36,040 --> 02:42:40,240
Speaker 6: was the last one, and so in her mind she

3035
02:42:40,280 --> 02:42:42,520
Speaker 6: felt like she was losing me, if that makes sense.

3036
02:42:42,680 --> 02:42:45,400
Speaker 4: So she didn't respond very well to that.

3037
02:42:45,959 --> 02:42:48,840
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that if you're older and you lose

3038
02:42:48,879 --> 02:42:53,520
Speaker 1: a child, lose quote unquote, it's scarier because you can't

3039
02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:56,560
Speaker 1: go build a new third life right after.

3040
02:42:56,320 --> 02:43:00,840
Speaker 3: The second What's what's your girl with me? Is over? Okay?

3041
02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:03,160
Speaker 3: So that was the other thing too. I was like,

3042
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:04,119
Speaker 3: it's around.

3043
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:07,560
Speaker 1: This. She ain't never going home.

3044
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:10,720
Speaker 3: I think I think she thought she was teaching.

3045
02:43:10,720 --> 02:43:12,760
Speaker 2: That's the lesson. I was like, No, she never coming back.

3046
02:43:12,800 --> 02:43:16,280
Speaker 2: This is you just fucked up your girl chose me.

3047
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:23,360
Speaker 2: You know the rules of the game, Daddy. I came

3048
02:43:23,400 --> 02:43:27,600
Speaker 2: in the house, you a rest taving for holes but not.

3049
02:43:28,080 --> 02:43:30,520
Speaker 2: But no, it worked out for the best anyway, man.

3050
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:34,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was definitely a weird, weird time there.

3051
02:43:34,600 --> 02:43:38,320
Speaker 1: All right, listen, look, I'm so sorry that I have

3052
02:43:38,760 --> 02:43:41,440
Speaker 1: held like I didn't even think I'd be talking to

3053
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:43,039
Speaker 1: you for ten thousand hours.

3054
02:43:43,120 --> 02:43:43,800
Speaker 3: It's all good.

3055
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:45,720
Speaker 4: Look, we enjoy bro.

3056
02:43:46,160 --> 02:43:49,480
Speaker 1: My throat is hurting and I gotta go write some ship.

3057
02:43:49,600 --> 02:43:52,320
Speaker 1: But I truly probably could talk to you all for

3058
02:43:52,400 --> 02:43:53,920
Speaker 1: like two more fucking hours.

3059
02:43:53,959 --> 02:43:55,680
Speaker 3: Wow. We enjoyed talking with you, Ray.

3060
02:43:56,400 --> 02:44:01,359
Speaker 2: I know it's been a long rambling, like just conversational episode.

3061
02:44:01,480 --> 02:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Do we didn't wonder I'm wondering if, like, because I

3062
02:44:04,879 --> 02:44:07,520
Speaker 1: have been secretly, well maybe not so secret day. I'm

3063
02:44:07,520 --> 02:44:09,600
Speaker 1: just sucking on my vase pen this whole time. But

3064
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:12,720
Speaker 1: like I'm nervous that I have said things that that

3065
02:44:12,879 --> 02:44:15,840
Speaker 1: makes sense go anywhere.

3066
02:44:15,879 --> 02:44:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can all just I think

3067
02:44:18,320 --> 02:44:20,800
Speaker 2: we can just all foul all of this under the

3068
02:44:20,840 --> 02:44:22,040
Speaker 2: complexity of blackness.

3069
02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:22,920
Speaker 3: I feel like there.

3070
02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Were several times when we were on one side of

3071
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:27,360
Speaker 2: the thing and then like some nigga we didn't like

3072
02:44:27,440 --> 02:44:29,040
Speaker 2: come up and we're on the other side of the thing.

3073
02:44:29,320 --> 02:44:31,360
Speaker 3: I feel like some.

3074
02:44:31,360 --> 02:44:34,680
Speaker 1: Nigga rock them, like.

3075
02:44:35,680 --> 02:44:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to join you in this. Okay, I'm

3076
02:44:38,360 --> 02:44:38,959
Speaker 3: not gonna.

3077
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna leave one of those black men that

3078
02:44:42,160 --> 02:44:45,680
Speaker 2: leave black women out by themself. No, I allowed it.

3079
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:48,880
Speaker 2: It was on our platform, and we in this shit together, sisters.

3080
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:51,320
Speaker 3: So they coming after youth, they coming after others.

3081
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:53,400
Speaker 4: Okay, we both close.

3082
02:44:54,560 --> 02:44:57,520
Speaker 1: Look at me, Look at me pretending like I didn't

3083
02:44:57,560 --> 02:44:59,920
Speaker 1: ask for this solidarity. You showed me and I.

3084
02:45:01,600 --> 02:45:01,680
Speaker 4: Up.

3085
02:45:01,800 --> 02:45:02,800
Speaker 1: Listen, come on.

3086
02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:11,720
Speaker 3: When they do the ra SONI uh is over party.

3087
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:14,760
Speaker 3: They gotta put me in the hashtag and carry. Okay,

3088
02:45:16,200 --> 02:45:18,480
Speaker 3: the chat room, y'all come in to chat room. We

3089
02:45:18,560 --> 02:45:20,000
Speaker 3: all getting canceled over this ship.

3090
02:45:20,080 --> 02:45:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we got the black guy who tests bumped,

3091
02:45:22,560 --> 02:45:24,680
Speaker 6: so all that means is that you ain't got no

3092
02:45:24,720 --> 02:45:25,640
Speaker 6: trust but to go up.

3093
02:45:25,720 --> 02:45:27,680
Speaker 2: I know we never make it to the white podcast

3094
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:31,039
Speaker 2: money though, because Charlemagne is definitely over there and he

3095
02:45:31,160 --> 02:45:34,760
Speaker 2: knows for one.

3096
02:45:35,560 --> 02:45:38,480
Speaker 1: It's Charlemagne and Candice. I don't think it's an accident.

3097
02:45:38,520 --> 02:45:42,120
Speaker 1: They both start with, so what are we doing here?

3098
02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:44,160
Speaker 3: We definitely not making it.

3099
02:45:44,520 --> 02:45:45,840
Speaker 4: They're gonna cross us off the list.

3100
02:45:46,000 --> 02:45:48,360
Speaker 2: All the var stool gonna get that call like, not

3101
02:45:48,440 --> 02:45:52,000
Speaker 2: those niggas, No, you don't want them all right, y'all,

3102
02:45:52,000 --> 02:45:55,480
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow. Uh, talking more podcast shit.

3103
02:45:56,480 --> 02:45:58,560
Speaker 3: I know it deliberation.

3104
02:45:58,800 --> 02:46:02,000
Speaker 1: That's the name of my challenge podcast to deliberation. Love

3105
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:06,039
Speaker 1: it listen by our podcast. I fucking love these two people.

3106
02:46:06,440 --> 02:46:09,360
Speaker 1: You probably loving toos you hear my drunk ass saytingist

3107
02:46:09,480 --> 02:46:13,880
Speaker 1: right now, So love us all, make them your faves

3108
02:46:13,920 --> 02:46:16,480
Speaker 1: on everything and listen.

3109
02:46:16,200 --> 02:46:19,280
Speaker 2: And love you too, Ray and continue success out there.

3110
02:46:20,920 --> 02:46:23,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully this ship is you know, soon everybody healthy and

3111
02:46:23,920 --> 02:46:25,360
Speaker 2: you do get to go back to New York.

3112
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:29,600
Speaker 3: I know you miss it some awful, so hopefully that comes.

3113
02:46:29,360 --> 02:46:32,840
Speaker 4: Through one day we get to see you in person, Yeah,

3114
02:46:32,879 --> 02:46:33,280
Speaker 4: for sure.

3115
02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:37,720
Speaker 1: You know. I actually was supposed to, like do so

3116
02:46:37,760 --> 02:46:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do a storytelling tour for some magazine.

3117
02:46:41,240 --> 02:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it in case they like

3118
02:46:43,040 --> 02:46:46,000
Speaker 1: bitch whatever, because we're doing the fault. They have a

3119
02:46:46,040 --> 02:46:48,600
Speaker 1: fall date, so I'm supposed to do some like interactive

3120
02:46:48,680 --> 02:46:51,600
Speaker 1: cool storytelling things whatever, And they had a Charlotte, North

3121
02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:58,240
Speaker 1: Carolina date, and I was gonna tell y'all.

3122
02:46:55,879 --> 02:46:56,840
Speaker 3: You know what, it's gonna be.

3123
02:46:56,879 --> 02:46:59,320
Speaker 2: All right, man, I'm just gonna make sure you know,

3124
02:46:59,360 --> 02:47:01,680
Speaker 2: I take care of ourself. Care takes care of herself.

3125
02:47:02,080 --> 02:47:04,800
Speaker 2: Everybody just take care of yourselves. Life is on pause

3126
02:47:04,840 --> 02:47:07,680
Speaker 2: like a video game right now. Okay, let's just make

3127
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:10,600
Speaker 2: it through Corona and then we're gonna we're gonna turn

3128
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:11,400
Speaker 2: up afterwards.

3129
02:47:11,440 --> 02:47:11,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

3130
02:47:11,720 --> 02:47:14,800
Speaker 2: I see some of y'all going early, and I'm not

3131
02:47:14,840 --> 02:47:18,320
Speaker 2: fucking with y'all. Okay, so in fourteen days, we'll know

3132
02:47:18,360 --> 02:47:19,400
Speaker 2: which one of y'all.

3133
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 3: You know, took it off a little too early.

3134
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:22,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're gonna we're gonna kill We're gonna get

3135
02:47:22,920 --> 02:47:24,240
Speaker 2: to see you, right, It's gonna be cool.

3136
02:47:24,879 --> 02:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be cool. Have some big y'all to.

3137
02:47:29,240 --> 02:47:36,480
Speaker 2: You, same to you, assuming everybody, and yeah, we'll be

3138
02:47:36,560 --> 02:47:39,880
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Also, me and Bossie will be doing this

3139
02:47:39,920 --> 02:47:42,320
Speaker 2: too much at some point this week. She's hella busy

3140
02:47:42,360 --> 02:47:44,880
Speaker 2: now too because she's blowing up. So all right, y'all,

3141
02:47:45,040 --> 02:47:48,640
Speaker 2: we'll talk to y'all later. Until next time, I love you,

3142
02:47:48,760 --> 02:47:48,960
Speaker 2: wow