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Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 1: Welcomes he wanted Bills Live here on a Tuesday, February sixth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I guess I now that we're here,

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Speaker 1: I got I gotta say this because before I forget it,

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Speaker 1: one of my grandkids turns four years old today, Gordy

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Speaker 1: Gordon Gabriel Tasker, four years old. Happy birthday, Gordy. He's

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Speaker 1: named after my dad, after his great grand.

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Speaker 3: Have you been able to tell at his age? Is

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Speaker 3: this a future NFL punt gunner?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I don't wish that on any of them,

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Speaker 1: but no, I'm thinking too. I'm thinking I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: him into a PGA guy.

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Speaker 2: Content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Sport too, exactly football. Your life's all too short.

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Speaker 1: But a happy birthday, Gordy, so there's there's that. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take him out for it. Absolutely night a guy's

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Speaker 1: day out here pretty quick before. So happy birthday to him.

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Speaker 1: Had to get that out of the way, and that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about today. The super

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Speaker 1: Bowl kicked off last night with media Day. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about that in just a minute. And we got

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Speaker 1: We've got Doug Ferrara on from USA today. I was

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Speaker 1: coming in to do a little bit of an interview here.

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Speaker 1: He's in l in Las Vegas. Yesterday went good. We

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Speaker 1: had a lot to talk about yesterday as well. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of feedback on our question yesterday and today.

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Speaker 1: Question for you today is how many? Because we're talking

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Speaker 1: about this draft coming up and everybody's on this wide

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Speaker 1: receiver train and you've got all these rafts who are

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Speaker 1: already done and now the end of the season comes.

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Speaker 1: Now they got us taken a center yesterday and one

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Speaker 1: of them now has got us taken a defensive end.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's where we're kind of at today, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's where we're going to live for

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Speaker 1: the next three or four months, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think with ten draft picks, it's the

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Speaker 3: most draft picks that Brandon Bean has had going into

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Speaker 3: a draft. He could certainly make some trades here and there,

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Speaker 3: probably will, But that's what the Twitter question is today.

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Speaker 3: How many of the Bills ten draft picks have to

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Speaker 3: contribute in twenty twenty four and why we have a

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Speaker 3: bunch of comments already on that Twitter question, but find

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Speaker 3: us on one bills live on Twitter Acts whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to call it, answer that question and we will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course, you know, don't you know, be realistic,

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, I mean, as many as they can hit

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Speaker 1: on it's it's a must, right, I mean, the more

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Speaker 1: the better. Also, and as we get into this news

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Speaker 1: coaching news and notes around the NFL, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing time of year. And we went over

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. There was a ton going on yesterday and

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Speaker 1: here it is today. The coaching wheel continues to turn

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We spent a lot of time talking

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Speaker 1: about it yesterday, but even more happened. Rayhee Morris is

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Speaker 1: the new Atlanta head coach. We talked about that he

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Speaker 1: so he hired the Rams quarterbacks coach Zach Robinson as

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Speaker 1: the Rams are sitting there stuck right the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 1: as we knew they were gonna do a big reset.

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Speaker 1: They got there. They're getting their house in order. They

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Speaker 1: Brent Tillis was hired as the executive vice president of

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Speaker 1: football Operations. All right, so all right, whatever those titles are,

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Speaker 1: you know. Then, of course Dave Knalis is the new

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Speaker 1: head coach. Now four position coaches have been added. First,

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Speaker 1: Harold Goodwin is the assistant head coach and run game coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He had the exact same title in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: With Canalis, so then they also hired that's Harold Goodwin

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Speaker 1: Then they hired Bernie Parmally, who's the running backs coach.

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Speaker 1: He last year he was with Jacksonville as their running

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Speaker 3: And he was the Bills wide receiver coach in twenty

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Speaker 2: The last there you go, he was there, There you go.

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Speaker 1: And then of course, and then they also hired Joe

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Speaker 3: Well, I think to me, it starts. You can say

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Canalis can get a lot more out

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Speaker 3: of Bryce Young than he what the you know, Frank

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Speaker 3: Reich ultimately got out of him last year. But to me,

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Speaker 3: it starts with your general manager. How well do you draft,

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Speaker 3: how well do you work fore agency? And Dan Morgan

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Speaker 3: has such a good reputation around the NFL. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: great linebacker in Carolina. That's where the Brandon Bean connection

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Speaker 3: came in was integral and some good drafts here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: So I think they finally have the right guy calling

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Speaker 3: the shots at the top at the GM spot with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's basically depending on how good and gifted

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Speaker 1: gifted your roster got to be around him.

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Speaker 1: I think with Bryce Young totally mentally, they're really a

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Speaker 2: Gifted, and there wasn't a lot around him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you gotta you gotta upgrade around him. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's where they're gonna they're gonna have to do. Also,

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots is for AFC East people like

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Speaker 1: us Uh. They have hired former New York Giants head

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Speaker 1: coach in Carolina offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo as their offensive

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Speaker 1: assistant coach. Mcadow joins Alex van Pelt, former Bills player

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this. Gered Mayo is now the youngest

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Speaker 3: And to me, what's so interesting about that fact about

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Speaker 2: It seemed like a bunch of these.

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor's Bobby Sloweck got a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: And you think about how it went with McDermott here

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Speaker 1: So that's what Girard Mayo and these guys. It's a

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, I mean, Sean was you know in what is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think on that note, sometimes you could

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Speaker 3: like those Dolphins teams played super high one more games

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Speaker 3: to expect After Rex Ryan with Sean McDermott, the roster

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Speaker 3: So I think that's important to remember with a guy

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Speaker 3: like Gerard Mao that maybe is not inheriting that talented

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Speaker 3: get the number one overall pick next year. He's trying

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Speaker 3: to win football games right now. I think that's the case,

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Speaker 3: regardless of age, for any head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about too as you look around the league.

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Speaker 1: Even further, the Rams have promoted Chris Shula to the

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Speaker 1: kin Kaid of course, sixteen games played, seventy three receptions,

434
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Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy three yards, a couple of touchdowns,

435
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth overall. Osiris was fifty ninth overall, and he's acting.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a guy that it looks

437
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Speaker 1: like he's gonna be here for a decade. Osiris Torrens

438
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Speaker 1: is the guy. He only had five accepted penalties in

439
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Speaker 1: seventeen games out of a thousand snaps he was absolutely

440
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Speaker 1: rock solid and he played like a true pro Dorian Williams.

441
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Speaker 1: He played in all seventeen games, he started twice. He

442
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Speaker 1: had forty tackles, two quarterback hits. He was a third

443
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Speaker 1: round or ninety first overall. And that's a guy as well.

444
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of Bills fans.

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Speaker 2: Are like, I want to see more of him.

446
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Speaker 1: He's an enormously fast player, real athlete playing linebacker, and

447
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Speaker 1: as he gets more and more reps under his belt,

448
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Speaker 1: he'll get better and better and show the coaches what

449
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Speaker 1: they need to trust him with more responsibility on the field.

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Speaker 1: Justin Shorter, one hundred and fiftieth overall in the twenty

451
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Speaker 1: twenty three draft, snapped a hamp not snapped, pulled a hamstring,

452
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Speaker 1: and was on IR for the entire year. I said

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. I don't know this. I haven't talked to anybody,

454
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Speaker 1: but it seems obvious to me that they hid that

455
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Speaker 1: guy out on IR. I think they've got some plans

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Speaker 1: for him in the future. And now he's a tall dude.

457
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Speaker 1: He's very big, and he's got good straight line line speed,

458
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Speaker 1: good catch radius. I mean, he's I don't want to

459
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Speaker 1: say he's freakishly tall to me because I'm a normal

460
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Speaker 1: hype guy, right, and he is. He's six y four,

461
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Speaker 1: He's all a six four. He stands out in the room.

462
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Speaker 1: He's a real athlete. And I and the question is

463
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Speaker 1: this for whatever he needed to do in the offseason

464
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Speaker 1: or in the in training camp last year or after

465
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Speaker 1: the draft, what they wanted to see of him to like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's the listen, We need him to run

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Speaker 1: routes better, or we need to run more routes a

468
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Speaker 1: bigger route tree, or catch better, or be stronger, or

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Speaker 1: learn how to release better against whatever those things are.

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Speaker 1: And I begin to tell you it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see has he done it? Has he worked on it?

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Speaker 1: Because they're there. They do not pull punches. This is

473
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Speaker 1: this work. This UH performance review is pretty specific when

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Speaker 1: they talk to these guys. I need to release better,

475
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Speaker 1: you need to get some speed, you need to get stronger,

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Speaker 1: you need to work on your explosion, you need to

477
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Speaker 1: come in and out of breaks. It'll be very specific

478
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Speaker 1: as to what he is supposed to work on this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And of course they told him during the season as well,

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Speaker 1: after he healed up or when he was healing up

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Speaker 1: for his hamstring. I'm I'm thinking that guy has a

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Speaker 1: chance to be a contributor and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Six four two thirty three.

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Speaker 3: What I loved about him at Florida only six drops

485
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Speaker 3: in five seasons in college, and he was a down

486
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Speaker 3: the field guy for everything that you just mentioned, Steve.

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Speaker 3: I do think, of course they're always going to say, look,

488
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Speaker 3: you need to work on this, this, this, this, and this,

489
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Speaker 3: especially for a young guy that doesn't have a catch

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Speaker 3: in a regular season game, made some plays like you're

491
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Speaker 3: seeing here if you're watching on TV in the preseason game,

492
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Speaker 3: had a touchdown against the Pittsburgh Steelers down there in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: What I like is that.

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Speaker 3: Even if you don't see huge leaps in all those intricacies,

495
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Speaker 3: those nuances of playing the wide receiver spot, you're talking

496
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Speaker 3: about a six foot four, two hundred and thirty pound

497
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Speaker 3: wide receiver with mid four or five speed, very strong hands.

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Speaker 3: He can get down the football field. And we've been

499
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Speaker 3: already talking about it. We're here in early February. So

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Speaker 3: much they need to draft a receiver to get down

501
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Speaker 3: the field, get down the field, get down the field,

502
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Speaker 3: and I think that they will address someone that has

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Speaker 3: some speed like they will add someone to this roster

504
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Speaker 3: early in the draft, but you kind of have, like

505
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Speaker 3: you mentioned yesterday, a red shirt player and Justin Shorter

506
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Speaker 3: that can already be that niche guy. Doesn't need to

507
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Speaker 3: be Stefan Diggs running routes, but just his presence on

508
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Speaker 3: the field, being as big and as much of a

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Speaker 3: long strider as he is with that college film where

510
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Speaker 3: he's catching everything in traffic, that is a good player

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Speaker 3: to have on this rush.

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Speaker 1: An idea in that Pittsburgh preseason game. Now, remember the

513
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Speaker 1: Steelers lumped up the Bills pretty good in the preseason

514
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Speaker 1: twenty seven to fifteen in Pittsburgh. In that game, Justin

515
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Speaker 1: Short was a leading receiver for the Bills. He had

516
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Speaker 1: five catches on six targets, a touchdown, and a long

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Speaker 1: of seventeen, so he had a nice catch ratio. So

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Speaker 1: that's as something you really like to see, and that's

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Speaker 1: you know, So there there's a lot to look forward

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Speaker 1: to this offseason, this preseason, this draft.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Ten picks is.

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Speaker 3: A lot I wonder too, And I'm sure we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get some comments from you guys on this. How many

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Speaker 3: of those picks do they ultimately make? Because we know

526
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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean is not afraid right to trade up and beyond. Yes,

527
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Speaker 3: you head on Khalil Shakira in the fifth round, you

528
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Speaker 3: hit on Christian Ben for a big time in the

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Speaker 3: sixth round.

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Speaker 2: A lot of.

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Speaker 3: Those Day three picks late have gotten poached by other

532
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Speaker 3: teams because there's just not enough roster spots.

533
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Speaker 2: They don't make the fifty three men roster.

534
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Speaker 3: Jack Anderson Alex Austin had the interception on Josh Allen

535
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Speaker 3: with the Patriots late in the season. He was a

536
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Speaker 3: Bills draft pick seventh round past year. I wonder if

537
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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean goes into this draft and says, hey, look,

538
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Speaker 3: I'm glad to have ten picks, but I'm not gonna

539
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Speaker 3: necessarily need to make all the six and the seventh

540
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Speaker 3: rounders that they have some extras, because it's going to

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Speaker 3: be hard, even with a team that's not gonna be

542
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Speaker 3: able to spend as much in free agency, but for

543
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Speaker 3: all of those ten rookies to ultimately make this roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be well, it's gonna be a tough,

545
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Speaker 1: a tough team to make again. This year was really difficult.

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Speaker 1: Last year with the depth and the and the experience

547
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Speaker 1: they had at the front lines. Nevertheless, like we said,

548
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Speaker 1: there were three or four guys who did and absolutely

549
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Speaker 1: contributed to the success of the team. One of the

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Speaker 1: things you got aspects of this team, and I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this when I was talking about continuity and teams that

552
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Speaker 1: are trying to run it back and how difficult it is,

553
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Speaker 1: not only because, you know, because of a tough league

554
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Speaker 1: to win in, but also because you can't keep everybody

555
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Speaker 1: in the house that she had you ran to the

556
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Speaker 1: to the championship with. Think about the Philadelphia Eagles, they

557
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Speaker 1: kind of ran it back. I think there is and

558
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Speaker 1: they had an and this you know, they kind of

559
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Speaker 1: kept it going until they couldn't and then they absolutely

560
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Speaker 1: flamed out. And I think the last month and a

561
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Speaker 1: half of the season exactly the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that they really went into the gutter the last month,

563
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Speaker 3: you know, after beating the Bills in overtime, I think

564
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Speaker 3: the last two months. Yeah, they were one and six

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Speaker 3: down the stretch and then got blown out in the wildcard.

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Speaker 1: Right they were Yeah, it was one in I'll show

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Speaker 1: you it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one in six or one and seven.

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Speaker 3: And to me, they were a perfect sign of they

570
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Speaker 3: didn't evolve. They were like, hey, let's just run it back.

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Speaker 3: They had a lot of older pieces up front on

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Speaker 3: the offensive line and the defensive line with Fletcher Cox,

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Speaker 3: Jason Kelcey, you know future you know, probably Eagles Hall

574
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Speaker 3: of Fame type players, but they haven't hit on a

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Speaker 3: lot of those draft picks outside of Jalen Carter early

576
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Speaker 3: in the first, second round, third round. So to just

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Speaker 3: say let's just run it back, Let's do exactly what

578
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Speaker 3: we did last year, same scheme, same ideas, same philosophy,

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, getting off to their great start

580
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Speaker 3: down the stretch, the parody of the NFL really showed

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Speaker 3: and teams were able to figure out Jalen hurts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that reasons it's hard is

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about it at the top of the

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Speaker 1: show both days when Chris has been here. Is coaching

587
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Speaker 1: staff Squirrels. You're gonna have a new defensive coordinator this

588
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Speaker 1: year for the Buffalo Bills, an offensive coordinator to begin

589
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Speaker 1: the year that you finished the year with last year,

590
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Speaker 1: and Joe Brady. You're gonna have Al holcom as a

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Speaker 1: linebackers coach instead of Bobby babbitte You're gonna have Marcus

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Speaker 1: West as a defensive line coach who is the assistant

593
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Speaker 1: defensive line coach. All of this stuff's going on just

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Speaker 1: on the Bills roster under the Bills coaching staff. Players

595
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: react differently to different guys, Coaches react differently to different players.

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Speaker 1: The vibe will be different. It will be markedly different.

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Speaker 1: And some guys are gonna get the opportunity and have

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Speaker 1: expectations attached to them where listen, this is a different year.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be you have to do this

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Speaker 1: and this and this, and some guys will rise to

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Speaker 1: the occasion and others won't. A lot in this off

602
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Speaker 1: season for the Buffalo Bills, that not only the draft

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Speaker 1: class and the lack of free agency money that there

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Speaker 1: is to spend, but also you know, with hed the

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Speaker 1: coaches and getting that staff put.

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Speaker 2: Together, and that is right there very quickly.

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Speaker 3: One of the challenges I think when you're a good

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Speaker 3: team over three, four or five years, that other teams

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Speaker 3: that aren't to your level are going to poach your

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Speaker 3: assistance and your coordinators. So that's the challenge for a

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Speaker 3: head coach and a GM to say, how do we

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Speaker 3: replenish this where we don't see a drop off with

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Speaker 3: new coaches.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to continue to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Bill's coaching staff. In the next segment, we're going to

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Speaker 1: take a break. Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Colidah Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso here.

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Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about the coaching staff of

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Speaker 1: the Bills and how that has come together and some

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Speaker 1: of the changes. And I think you know, obviously we

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Speaker 1: went through this a little bit last year with Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott taking over the defensive coordinatorship and and then Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey as well kind of getting into his second years

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Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator of the Bills. Now Here we are

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Speaker 1: again two new coordinators in training camp. This is going

627
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Speaker 1: to be their first training camp as sitting in that seat.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how that goes and what

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Speaker 1: feedback we start to see, what do you you know,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? I mean, certainly it's going to

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Speaker 1: be an easier transition for Joe Brady since he had

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Speaker 1: you know, six or eight games on the on the

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Speaker 1: back end of last season and a playoff run under

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Speaker 1: his belt. And but even so, Bobby Babbage has been

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Speaker 1: in the building since the beginning of the you know,

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Speaker 1: the McDermot era. So what are your thoughts on how

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Speaker 1: these things might affect both sides the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, My biggest storyline going into even just training camp,

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Speaker 3: like you're mentioning, is how will Joe Brady's offense look?

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Speaker 3: He mentioned as he takes over in season this past

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Speaker 3: year for Ken Dorsey that hey, we're still running Ken

642
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Speaker 3: Dorsey's offense. I'm just going to put my own spin

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Speaker 3: on things. We saw a lot more empty SATs. That's

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen with no with no protection in the backfield.

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Speaker 3: With him, a lot more shotgun, maybe a little bit

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Speaker 3: more screen game. They ran the football a lot better.

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Speaker 3: But now he gets an entire offseason. This is Joe

648
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Speaker 3: Brady the offensive coordinator to install what he wants to

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Speaker 3: be his entire playbook.

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Speaker 2: So how will that look? Are the Bills?

651
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're not going to show that much in training camp,

652
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Speaker 3: but once the season starts, what will be the biggest

653
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Speaker 3: philosophical differences between what Ken Dorsey did with e motioning

654
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Speaker 3: with play action? You know, are they going to change

655
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Speaker 3: anything that was Brian Dable to Ken Dorsey and then

656
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Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady. That to me, I think

657
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: has the biggest impact or potential impact of anything else

658
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Speaker 3: on this Bills team. How does Joe Brady's offense look?

659
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Speaker 3: Is it like the LSU offense that he ran with

660
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: Jamaar Chase and Justin Jefferson and Joe Burrow or with

661
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Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater in Carolina. I want to see his exact

662
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: playbook that is not just you know, calling the plays

663
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: from another offensive cordat.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, you can say, you know

665
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Speaker 1: it's his LSU playbook, ers Carolina playbook, or you know

666
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: his his you know, Ken Dorsey playbook, which was pretty good. Yeah, exactly.

667
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: I think the thing that we've found out about these

668
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: NFL coordinators is his playbook should and the way it's

669
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the league is run now. Brady's playbook should reflect the

670
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: guy he's got playing quarterback and the weapons that guy's

671
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: got around him. So whatever he Joe Brady does with

672
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: those weapons is going to look different than the weapons

673
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Speaker 1: he had in Carolina and the weapons he had at LSU.

674
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Speaker 1: Even because and I make the joke all the time,

675
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Speaker 1: I mean he had Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson

676
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: playing against dental students. So I'm not going to get

677
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: too excited about how successful he was, National championship and

678
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: all that. That's awesome, and Joe Burrow was is a

679
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: phenomenal player, and so were those other two dudes, right,

680
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: And there was a bunch of other cats on those teams.

681
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: It's different up here, and that as much as anything,

682
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: dictates how successful you are and how creative you got

683
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: to be and what kind of formations you got to

684
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Speaker 1: lean on because of the guys who are really good

685
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Speaker 1: at this level.

686
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think too the biggest difference, and that is,

687
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, paying all the respects to that trio at LSU,

688
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: how good they were in college and now have you know,

689
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: transitioned to the NFL.

690
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen's a totally different quarterback than Joe Burrow.

691
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Speaker 3: That the absolutely the designed run game, the off structure stuff,

692
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: it's totally different. I think Josh, it's Josh Allen and

693
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes to me in terms of what they can

694
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: do as runners, scrambling, throwing on the run. Joe Burrow

695
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: is more inside the pocket, precision passer, so just that

696
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: right there, whatever Joe Brady was saying, all right, this

697
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: is what worked at LSU, he can add new wrinkles

698
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: because of what you're saying, Steve Josh Allen brings to

699
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Speaker 3: the table.

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Speaker 2: What I do think this is just a theory.

701
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Speaker 3: I think that in that Kansas City Chiefs Divisional round game,

702
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Speaker 3: beyond the fact that the Bills knew that they were

703
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: going in extremely banged up on defense second year in

704
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: a row, that that's happened in the division. I think

705
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: why we saw that game feature so many screens and

706
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: outlet passes, swing passes, at Ty Johnson, Latavius Murray, James Cook,

707
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: a lot of designed runs, was that Joe Brady did

708
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: not necessarily trust. Again, it's you know, we're saying this

709
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Speaker 3: a lot. Did not trust the secondary weapons outside of

710
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Speaker 3: Stefan Digg's dalon.

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Speaker 2: Kin k to a certain degree.

712
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Speaker 3: Being a rookie, you don't really know what you had

713
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: with him totally Kali secure making some plays. I think

714
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: what he wants to do have more wide receivers utilized

715
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: in this offense. That will almost dictate what the Bills

716
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: do in free agency and the draft, that hey, he

717
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: needs some more weapons he you know, produced to the

718
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: level that they did at LSU. Again, yes, they had,

719
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 3: you know, talent advantages with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson,

720
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: but to get more receiving talent on this roster where

721
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: you're not hoping that Trent Sherfield makes the catch of

722
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 3: his life or Deontae Hardy plays the game of his life.

723
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: So I think those two will combine to gather this

724
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: offseason what Brady wants and then what Brandon Bean can

725
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: ultimately go get him in free agency in the bargain

726
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: bin and then early in the draft or throughout the

727
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: draft with those ton picks.

728
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm on this kick lately about quantifying quarterbacks,

729
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: and you know, you've got guys like Tua Tongueva Lowe.

730
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: You got guys like Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, Pat Mahomes,

731
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. So you got

732
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: all these guys and they all have their own unique

733
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: set of skills. Now, Joe Burrow is a is a

734
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to me, is a unique cat. He will run for

735
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: a first down, but it's almost like you have to

736
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: beg him to do it, and he's gonna slide. I

737
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: mean that guy's taking no chances, right, Josh is the

738
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Speaker 1: other way he's and and here's the thing too. If

739
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: some of these guys like like Tua Dak Prescott is

740
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: in this conversation, guys like Kirk Cousins are in this conversation,

741
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: and certainly guys maybe below that line, take your pick.

742
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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to get into specific names, but

743
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: guys like Josh, guys like guys like Pat Mahomes can

744
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: take a defensive call that the defensive coordinator has wired

745
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and he goes, this is it.

746
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: We got them, perfect coverage, perfect rush, we got them.

747
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: This is what they're gonna run, and we're gonna take

748
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: it away, and they do. Those three guys can turn

749
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: it into a touchdown, not just win the play or

750
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: get out with an incompletion or a no play. They

751
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: can crush you with it. A lot of quarterbacks can't

752
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: do that. In fact, the percentage of plays you can

753
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: make after the play is is your first option is away.

754
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: For some of these guys, it's a coin flip, even

755
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: on option number two in a passing game with a

756
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: clean pocket. So you got to work around that as

757
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. Now you know, Andy Reid doesn't have

758
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: to do that, Joe Brady doesn't have to do that.

759
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Speaker 2: That helps.

760
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and certainly there's something to be said for what's

761
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: going on in LA with the Chargers. You got this guy,

762
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert who got from us on this side of

763
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: the country on the other coast or virtually. Then that

764
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: guy's really good. Well is he?

765
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Speaker 3: We haven't seen it yet, really come to a full

766
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he's reached his full potential yet.

767
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: With the joke, why not? I mean, who's I mean,

768
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: he's gonna be on his third offensive court, third or fourth.

769
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Baker Mayfield's gonna be on his eighth head coach,

770
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Okay, you gotta if you gotta

771
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: work around that guy, either you're working with him and

772
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: all his tools and his and his traits, or you're

773
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: building around him so you can overcome that stuff.

774
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

775
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: You just made me think of what I think is

776
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: very encouraging about what Joe Brady did down the stretch

777
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: and then even in the playoffs. He tapped into everything

778
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: that Josh Allen can give a team to have the

779
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: long touchdown run in the wild card round against the Steelers.

780
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: You saw a huge uptick in Josh Allen designed runs

781
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: once Joe Brady took over, and that came into twenty

782
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: twenty three as hey, maybe this is a year where

783
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: the Bills are not going to call as many runs

784
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: for Josh Allen. And I think it hampered the offense

785
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: that to have what you just mentioned, have that ability

786
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: when things break down, to let Josh Allen run and

787
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: pick up a first down or score a touchdown, or

788
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: score or hit a thirty yard play. Joe Brady showed that, Hey,

789
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: this is a team that's maybe not super strong at

790
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 3: wide receiver, but the offensive line is good.

791
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Speaker 2: The running back is actually pretty good.

792
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: This you know young running back in James Cook and

793
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: oh yeah, Josh Allen is basically one of one as

794
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: a runner in terms of size, athleticism and power like

795
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is not running over guys. Patrick Mahomes is

796
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: not doing that either, Right, So what you just mentioned,

797
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: I think is spot on. And you saw that with

798
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: Joe Brady. He took a step back and said, all right,

799
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm the offensive coordinator.

800
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: We're six and six. What do we do here?

801
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: And I think he did a tremendous job accentuating the

802
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: specific talent of his quarterback first and foremost, and the

803
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: rest of the talent on the roster.

804
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Speaker 1: What do you think about the fallout, the drop off

805
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: in production of Steph Diggs? You what do you attribute

806
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: it to? Is it a little bit of Joe Is

807
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: it a little bit of Joe Brady? Is it a

808
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: little bit of Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kincaid, is a

809
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: little bit of thirty years old?

810
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: I think all those things.

811
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Speaker 3: I think to just say, hey, Steph Diggs has just

812
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: lost two steps, he's totally washed. I don't think that's

813
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: the case. He think being thirty y, you know, turning

814
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: thirty this past season, we've seen a lot of historically

815
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: great wide receivers play thirty two to thirty three and

816
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: can still make plays. And the first half of the

817
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: season he certainly hadn't lost a step. He was, you know,

818
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: on pace for career highs. I think Joe Brady was

819
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: so concerned about spreading the football around because teams were

820
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: starting to shadow Stefan Diggs and have the safety over

821
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: the top and bracket coverage, and Joe Brady not really

822
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 3: wanting to just pigeonhole himself into Hey, if Stefan Diggs

823
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: doesn't have a big day, We're not going to score

824
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: twenty points. So that's when you saw the uptick with

825
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir and with Dalton Kincaid and the run game.

826
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Speaker 2: And there was certainly some weather games that kind of

827
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: factored in.

828
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Speaker 3: So he maybe has lost a quarter of a stop,

829
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Speaker 3: maybe even a half step, but I think it was

830
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: more about spreading the football around. Using Josh Allen in

831
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: the run game certainly was part of that. And the

832
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: fact that Stefan Diggs is who he is and has

833
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: become an elite receiver in Buffalo who's still drawing an

834
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: insane amount of attention. So suddenly next year, with Kincaid

835
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: going into year two, you have to certainly pay attention

836
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: to the Bills run game. Now with the offensive line

837
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: of James Cook, you throw in a bargain bin free

838
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: agent a Kendrick Bourne and a first round wide receiver.

839
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Speaker 3: Now you can't bracket in double team Stefon Diggs, and

840
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Speaker 3: I think we see him produce at a much more

841
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 3: characteristic level than what we've seen in the past next season.

842
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Speaker 1: First of a, yeah, that'll be interesting to see, and

843
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you I think there's no question that,

844
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, he's been really highly productive for more than

845
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: a handful of years now, and you would expect there

846
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: to be something late, at least a plateau anyway, But

847
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: in the early part of this season he was as

848
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Speaker 1: dominant as we've ever seen him.

849
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Speaker 6: Ye.

850
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Speaker 1: So I still think there's that gas in the tank,

851
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: and I think you're right. I think Joe Brady had

852
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and the switching over offensive corners had a little bit

853
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: to do it it. I think Josh had a little

854
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: bit to do with it. I think Kincaid had a

855
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: little bit to do with it, and I think James

856
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: Cook and Khalisha Kiir had a little bit to do

857
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: with it.

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm still thinking though, as i'm you know, I'm named

860
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: off all those quarterbacks a minute ago, you know, who

861
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: can make a defensive play into an offensive play.

862
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

863
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: We still feel like in this conference you're in a

864
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: little bit of an arms race, right, particularly when you

865
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: think about a team like Cincinnati. You know, Joe Burrows healthy,

866
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Speaker 1: that that's a team that's it's a problem. They got

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Speaker 1: a really good defense and their offense can score. Ye,

868
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Speaker 1: and Joe's going to hit the right guy Mahomes and

869
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey and those guys in Kansas City, they've done it

870
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Speaker 1: completely differently this year with defense. Now, they they muddled

871
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Speaker 1: through the regular season offensively, but they turned it on

872
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Speaker 1: here in the playoffs. So I don't know that I'm

873
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Speaker 1: I'm certainly on that board with let's get in more weapons,

874
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Speaker 1: let's do the stuff on that side of well, particularly

875
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Speaker 1: since I don't know that it's going to be possible

876
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Speaker 1: to build your defense into a stellar unit right out

877
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Speaker 1: of the gate this year, So you better give Josh

878
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Speaker 1: some help and so you can score points early.

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Speaker 3: Very quickly on this In terms of an arms race,

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00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: I think that's a great phrase to use. We are

881
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Speaker 3: about to see with Cincinnati, Kansas City, and Buffalo, let's say,

882
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: and then even Baltimore losing a bunch of coaches. Travis

883
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: Kelce's thirty four steph Diggs is going to be thirty

884
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: one that Bengals are probably gonna lose t Higgins. What

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00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: do those upper echelon teams in the AFC do to

886
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: rebuild again? And is it the Bills that become the

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00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: best offense? Is it the Bengals? Is it the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: to kind of regain that this is kind of the

889
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Speaker 3: secondary arms race with these quarterbacks as they're entering their

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Speaker 3: mid to late twenties. How do the teams replenish the

891
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Speaker 3: groups around them?

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Speaker 1: Still plenty more to talk about. We got Doug Farrar

893
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: coming on from USA today, Chris Rpasso, Steve task We're

894
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Speaker 1: going to take a break, come back and talk more

895
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Speaker 1: about the Bills coaching changes as we move into this offseasons.

896
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Speaker 1: Of course, we'll take your phone calls if you want

897
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: to call us as well. How many draft picks in

898
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: this draft class have to be contributors for the Bills

899
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Speaker 1: to be successful in the coming season. Steve Tasker, Christoph Passo.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Colidahealth. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. We've got a caller

902
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: on the line. We're talking about the coaching staff and

903
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, how it's changing and all the other stuff.

904
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Speaker 1: What it's gonna mean for Josh Allen, the offense and

905
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: the defense going forward. We got Butch on the line.

906
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Butch from the east side. But can you hold on?

907
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: There we go, hold on, this is it's me. It's

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Speaker 1: not Butch. There we go. Butch on the east side.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, let us know.

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Speaker 6: My man, my man, Steven christ Christie, you're doing out

911
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 6: of a job feeling in Man, I'm proud of you, man.

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00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 6: Keep representing the family.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: The family is great. I just want to just say this, man,

915
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Speaker 6: I got a couple of things to say.

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Speaker 4: And it's very important, and I want you really, both

917
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: of you guys expertise, and I want you to really

918
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Speaker 4: just digested a little bit before you comment.

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Speaker 6: Number one. And Steve, as you know, by being a

920
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Speaker 6: former player and coming from the college you came from

921
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Speaker 6: trying to get in the game. You know, everybody's hungry

922
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 6: to make a football team. A lot of people to

923
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 6: look at people on the depth chart that's ahead of them.

924
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna use you, Steve, when you was in Houston,

925
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 6: when you first got to the Houston Oilers and you

926
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 6: had an opportunity looking on the depth chart of where

927
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Speaker 6: you wanted to go living your dreams for you and

928
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Speaker 6: your family, your mom and dad and etc. You always

929
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: so like, Okay, this guy in front of I think

930
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Speaker 6: I can beat him, or this free agent just came out,

931
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Speaker 6: I think I'm better than him. And this is where

932
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: the game is revolved now. The game is revolved from

933
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 6: the old days of bringing old guys in. It's free

934
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 6: agents and paying the big money. Now PlayStation and matt

935
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: and all these games. These gamers out here now, these

936
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 6: kids are playing games and they want their numbers to

937
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: be great on these games. So these young kids coming

938
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 6: out of college are really ready to play now more

939
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Speaker 6: than ever before. And moving going back on your topic,

940
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 6: is now with the Buffalo Bills, is we're I'm not

941
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Speaker 6: gonna say we were of the last ones to revolutionize

942
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 6: this this new thing that is coming, but now we're

943
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Speaker 6: going it's going to hit us this year because of money,

944
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 6: and we're going to use the people that we had

945
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 6: last year that we didn't use that much, young players.

946
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Speaker 6: And then this draft class is coming in and I

947
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: see the Buffalo Bills maybe not drafted at twenty eight,

948
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 6: they might move back and pick up picks. And I

949
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 6: can see them moving. I see Brandon picking up pigs

950
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Speaker 6: later on the build. They have a lot of capital

951
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 6: fires draft picks coming into training camp because they're gonna

952
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: be needing all these guys. But this is the reason

953
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Speaker 6: why I call it's a guy Eric the enemy out

954
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 6: there that I would love to bring in on his

955
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 6: offensive assistant the long to work with Joe Bay maybe

956
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 6: he could be the quarter that coach office assistant Tom

957
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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin mentioned something I don't know if you've got

958
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: Steven and Chris, if you guys seen it or not.

959
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Speaker 6: When he spoke about teaching, he said he embraced teaching

960
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Speaker 6: as a coach and more. These coaches we have on

961
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Speaker 6: our staff, they're gonna be challenged this year more than

962
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Speaker 6: ever to be great teachers because they're gonna they're gonna

963
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 6: teach these young kids to play right away, to be competitive,

964
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Speaker 6: not just be on the team, but to keep us winning.

965
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Speaker 6: And so moving forward, I'm wanna hang up on this car.

966
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for taking my car. I really

967
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Speaker 6: appreciate it, and I love lets and I loved you.

968
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Speaker 6: Gr is that we're gonna draft players and now I

969
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Speaker 6: need these teachers and I need Charman, Deermott and Brandon

970
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Speaker 6: me to realize, evaluate your coaching staff. You're teaching. It

971
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Speaker 6: doesn't hurt to bring more teachers on board because you're

972
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Speaker 6: gonna be teaching these young kids. And if you're not

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Speaker 6: tuning with these kids, if you're not what I mean

974
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Speaker 6: by tuning with if you can't get on any level

975
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Speaker 6: understand what he are. Let's say, Christie, Christine, no disrespect you,

976
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Speaker 6: but I believe you're younger than Steve and I and

977
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna say to you, you have a generation that

978
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Speaker 6: you can relate to that maybe Steve and I can't.

979
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Speaker 6: We're going to have to have teachers like you, Christy

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Speaker 6: on our staff to relate to these young kids. That's

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Speaker 6: all I'm saying. I love you guys, thanks so much

982
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Speaker 6: for taking my call. I love WG MSG and I'm

983
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Speaker 6: listening to the rest of the show. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Buch, appreciate it. Yeah, there's a lot in that,

985
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Speaker 1: no question.

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Speaker 3: An.

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Speaker 1: You're right, everybody comes out of college Hungary, and I

988
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: agree with you. Guys are coming out of college much

989
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: more polished, particularly at the wide receiver, defensive back, tight

990
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: end of the skill positions. They're coming out much more

991
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: polished because they got seven on seven groups. The teams

992
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: are getting, you know, high school and lower levels of

993
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: football are getting together in the offseason throwing seven on

994
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: seven against other teams and that kind of thing they got.

995
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: It's a big subculture that's going on out there in

996
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: football right now as well, and it makes these guys

997
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: much more ready to play when the season does kick off.

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00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: I'll say this as well. You said something about the

999
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Speaker 1: coaching staff has to be teachers. I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Chris Brown and I have thought about

1001
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Speaker 1: a lot, and we brought I think. I don't know

1002
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Speaker 1: if Chris and I talked Trepasso and I talked about

1003
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Speaker 1: this yesterday or not, but this has been one of

1004
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: the best staffs in the NFL during Sean mcdermot's tenure

1005
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: of developing players and getting them better and better and better.

1006
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Speaker 1: Part of it's the culture and the atmosphere they you know,

1007
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: they have created, and some of it is the coaching

1008
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: that these guys get and the way they're handled off

1009
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: the field that gives them a desire to get better

1010
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: inside themselves. Because even but you'll understand this, it doesn't

1011
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: mean anything if I coach, you coach, you coach if

1012
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't really care about getting better. And that's part

1013
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: of the the interview process of getting in here. They

1014
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: want to find out what makes these guys tick, and

1015
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: those are the buttons they push. If you're doing it

1016
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: for the money, they'll dangle a paycheck in front of you.

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Speaker 1: If you're doing it because you want to be the

1018
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: best you can be. They don't have to do anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to be the best you

1020
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Speaker 1: can be, they'll help you get there. If if you

1021
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: have to be challenged, they'll tell you can't do it.

1022
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Speaker 1: They don't think you can do it, and that will

1023
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Speaker 1: motivate you. That's how they work. They find what makes

1024
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: you really want to get better, and those are the

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Speaker 1: buttons they push. This staff has been able to do

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Speaker 1: that by and large to most of the guys they've drafted,

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Speaker 1: and everybody who comes in here is better when they leave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and very quickly on that point.

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Speaker 3: Being a coaching culture here in Buffalo that Sean McDermott

1030
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Speaker 3: has really created that so good at developing players. It

1031
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Speaker 3: allows Brandon Bean in the scouting department to bring in

1032
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Speaker 3: some very highly athletic players that are raw, like Gregory

1033
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Speaker 3: Russeau coming in and Tremaine Edmunds, and even Josh Allen

1034
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Speaker 3: was not a finished product when he was coming out

1035
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: of Wyoming. There was a lot of refinement that was

1036
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Speaker 3: needed to his game. The Bills have had not with

1037
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Speaker 3: every pick, but they have not been afraid to pick

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00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: the raw, high upside guy because Sean McDermott, regardless of

1039
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Speaker 3: if he's you know, having assistance lead and bringing another guy,

1040
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott himself and the rest of his staff believe

1041
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Speaker 3: in their philosophy and teaching, like Butch was mentioning, teaching

1042
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Speaker 3: these young players how to become the best vers versions

1043
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Speaker 3: of themselves, and that is incredibly important. If you can

1044
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: get to these guys to their upside, that's huge, and

1045
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Speaker 3: we've seen that with a lot of players during the

1046
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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott era.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. Lee and Maryland,

1048
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Speaker 1: hang on the line. We'll take you right after the break.

1049
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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue this conversation as we get into what's

1050
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna happen with this coaching staff after this offseason when

1051
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: they get back into training camp. This is One Bill's

1052
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1053
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 6: These One Bills Live presented by calllighta Help.

1054
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Steve Taster and Christopher Passo

1055
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: sitting in for Brownie. This week, we're gonna take go

1056
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: right to the phone calls. We've been talking about the

1057
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills coaching changes, the draft that's coming up, how

1058
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: important it's going to be, and how many selections in

1059
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: this draft for the Buffalo Bills have to be contributors

1060
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: in order for this team to be successful this coming season.

1061
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Speaker 1: Let's take a phone call and it's gonna come down

1062
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: to I hope I can get him on here. Yes,

1063
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Speaker 1: Lee and Marilyn Lee, go ahead, You're on One Bill's Live.

1064
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Speaker 7: Hi, good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you today?

1065
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Speaker 1: Very well? Thanks?

1066
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Speaker 7: Good well. I know you're talking about coaching changes and

1067
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 7: players and all this kind of stuff. It's just I

1068
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 7: think the foundation is there. But and I'm jumping the

1069
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 7: gun here. My question to you is how critical do

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Speaker 7: you think it is for the Bills to take the

1071
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Speaker 7: number one seat? Now, with that said, we saw what

1072
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Speaker 7: just happened, you know, with the Raven number one seed,

1073
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Speaker 7: But in your opinion, how critical do you think it

1074
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Speaker 7: is for the Bills to try and get that number

1075
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 7: one seat.

1076
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Speaker 1: As crazy as it sounds, I think it's better for them.

1077
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Speaker 1: It's obviously a plus for every team, but I would

1078
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Speaker 1: say it's even more of a plus in the opening round.

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00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Have to have a home game in the opening round

1080
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Once you get into the Championship round. Dude,

1081
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: these guys are ready for it. They don't care about

1082
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: the home field away. I mean, they're gonna play as

1083
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: well as you want them to play. And the Bills

1084
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: have proved. They proved it by playing extremely well in

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00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: Kansas City in the AFC Championship or at least in

1086
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: the division round. And then also, you know, both the

1087
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens, now is a

1088
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: one seed, have both been knocked off. The Chiefs got

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00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: knocked off by Cincy and Baltimore just got knocked off

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Speaker 1: by Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take a slightly different approach here. I

1092
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: think it is huge. I think again, you're not trying

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00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: to get in front of yourself like you said, Lee.

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00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't think Sean mcdermy is saying this today or

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00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: when they first report back for mini camp in May.

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00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: But I think that should be the first goal.

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00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: It should be getting the one seed, and it's beyond

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00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: just having the opening round playoff game. Of course, that's huge,

1099
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: and what Steve just outlined, it's not a given that

1100
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 3: if you're the one, you're automatically in the super Bowl.

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00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: The last two years in the playoffs the Bills have

1102
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: and not that this is something that always happens, but

1103
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: the last two years in the first round in the

1104
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: wildcard round as the two seed, the Bills have had

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00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: injuries in that wildcard round and against the Steelers, it

1106
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 3: was like the whole defense was getting decimated in that game,

1107
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: Losing Christian Benford, losing Terrell Bernard. I think we're enormous

1108
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: and we're big reasons why the Chiefs were able to

1109
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: move the ball as efficiently as they did the year

1110
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: before Daykwon Jones goes down against the Dolphins, the Bills

1111
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: are starting. They didn't have Jordan Phillips for that Cincinnati

1112
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: Bengals Division A Round game. They had to start a

1113
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: practice squad defensive tackle against Joe Mixon and Joe Burrow

1114
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase and T Higgins in that game. So

1115
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: to me, it's not even about the opening round game.

1116
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: It's to just get that second bye week. That it's

1117
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: kind of makes it interesting that there's a battle for

1118
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: the one seed every year in each conference, that it's

1119
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 3: just for one spot, and it's certainly about the getting

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00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: the home game and facing that that low seed, a

1121
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: six or a seven seed, But to me, it's or

1122
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 3: just the lowest remaining team in the division round. It's

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Speaker 3: just getting a free win in the playoffs is enormous.

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00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: You don't have to get anyone injured and everyone can

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: rest up to get ready for that playoff run.

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00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

1127
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: certainly if you go in and if you tell take

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00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: if you enter the health thing, plus the bye week,

1129
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: certainly that can give you a boost. We've also seen

1130
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: teams get off the slow starts in the division round

1131
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: because they kind of had a week off.

1132
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: Although it's not a given.

1133
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: I think that's overblown. Yes, absolutely, and I I mean

1134
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: I was on the road once in an AFC championship

1135
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: game and we thumped that other team. So but we

1136
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: had all three others here in Buffalo and we benefited

1137
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: for sure. So there's no question home field is a benefit.

1138
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: But I think when you get to the championship round, man,

1139
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: oh man, you're a grizzled bunch. I mean, you're hard.

1140
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: You know. It takes a gargantuan effort to get there.

1141
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: It takes a gargantuan effort get in the playoffs, let

1142
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: alone win a playoff game, then get to the eight

1143
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: championship round. And it's like man, oh man, so I

1144
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: it does in the mechanics of the game, with the

1145
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: noise and all of that, it does help, but it's

1146
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: not the magic elixir. I think you're more right than anything.

1147
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: I think it's more about injuries and where you fall

1148
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: in that way. Now, in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,

1149
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: the Bills were very healthy headed into the playoffs, very healthy,

1150
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: and and it showed they played awesome, but you know,

1151
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: he ran into it. You guy that made a couple

1152
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: of plays on you and you end up losing by

1153
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: you know, in overtime. So and the same thing in

1154
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: the year before. So it's it's not the magic elixir,

1155
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: and it is a benefit, but recently teams have shown

1156
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: they can do it. The Bills certainly think about this.

1157
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: The Bills are they don't care. They'll go into Kansas

1158
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: City again, They've been there every day, go there every year,

1159
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.

1160
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: And I think what we talked about in the previous segment,

1161
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: there's so much parody in the AFC. There's so many

1162
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: elite level quarterbacks or borderline and elite quarterbacks in the

1163
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: AFC that yeah, you can win.

1164
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: A road game in the playoffs. We just saw the

1165
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: Chiefs do it.

1166
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: We've seen a bunch of teams of late, especially in

1167
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: the AFC, that they can go on the road. And

1168
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: you know, Tennessee beat Kansas City a few years ago.

1169
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 3: Baltimore had a one seed the year that Lamar won

1170
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: his first MVP. They ultimately lost that divisional round game.

1171
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: So it's not a given. Just the free win. And

1172
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 3: to say, hey, guys, you went through an eighteen game schedule,

1173
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: a seventeen game schedule, You got the bye week whenever

1174
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 3: it is, and now we get another bye week to

1175
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: get some guys healthy. We don't know, like you said.

1176
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty twenty twenty one, the Bills were healthy, so

1177
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Speaker 3: that that playing in that game, and they didn't have

1178
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: any injuries in the wildcard round. The last two years

1179
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: the Bills have been a lot more injured, especially on

1180
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: the defensive side, which has been kind of strange just

1181
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. And then they had

1182
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: more injuries in the wildcard round. And then suddenly you're

1183
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: playing Baile Inspector and Tyler Metikaevitch against Patrick Mahomes and

1184
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey and Isaiah Pacheco in the divisional round. So

1185
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: to me, it's the free win and you get the

1186
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: opposite of chanting more injuries. You got that extra week

1187
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: to get your whether it be your defense or your

1188
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: offense healthy, going into the division around to win and

1189
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: then host the AFC title game.

1190
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: All right, So we had a chance ship before airtime today,

1191
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: we had Doug Ferrara on USA Today. He's a writer

1192
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: and editor for USA Today. He's in Las Vegas, and

1193
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: we had a chance to talk to him just before

1194
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: we came on the air today, So we taped a

1195
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: little bit of an interview for you to listen to.

1196
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: This is about the super Bowl coming up, a little

1197
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: bit about the start of all the stuff that is

1198
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and also some stuff about the Buffalo

1199
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: Bills and their draft. Here's Doug far Our USA Today. Okay, Doug,

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: let's get started. You're out in Vegas. Give us an

1201
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: idea out the vibe out there. How is the Vegas

1202
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: going to be different than other Super Bowl venues.

1203
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting. It's been rainy. I came down from

1204
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: Seattle where I live, and I thought I brought the

1205
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: weather with me. It's been very rainy. It's been a

1206
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: great host city so far. It's it's kind of like

1207
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 5: when New York City hosted the Super Bowl, and it's

1208
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 5: just one of those things where when you bring in

1209
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl for sensus like, oh my gosh, we

1210
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 5: can't handle all this crazy stuff. You're in Vegas. I mean,

1211
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 5: come on, it's another Tuesday. It's not very different. So

1212
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: I think the city has set up for it really well.

1213
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 5: I was at the opening night last night, and yeah,

1214
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 5: Legion Stadium was packed with I think Niner fans were

1215
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: more attendance and Chiefs fans based on the sheer volume

1216
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 5: of things. But yeah, everyone's psyched, and I think we're

1217
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: just about ready to go.

1218
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah see or Doug getting right into the game. You've

1219
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: already written a lot about this matchup, and we saw

1220
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: that just a few years ago. Explain to the listeners

1221
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: and the viewers about the Chiefs on defense and why

1222
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: blitzing rock Party might be a bad idea.

1223
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: It could be a very bad idea. Well it might

1224
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: be to me. I and I got to talk to

1225
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: Steve Spagnolo the DC for about half an hour at

1226
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: opening night, which, of course, if you talk to Steve

1227
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 5: for half an hour, your brain is just going because

1228
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 5: he's a brilliant guy, as you guys know, and Spags

1229
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 5: will bring you blitzes that you can't really decide. There

1230
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 5: aren't a lot of keys in his defense. Their guys

1231
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 5: are so multiple, they're coming from everywhere. They have four

1232
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 5: linebackers who can move around and do different things like

1233
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 5: Leo Chanel can play slot or defensive end. So they'll

1234
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 5: play a lot of bass like three linebackers, but it's

1235
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 5: not bass. They'll play dime, but it's not really dime.

1236
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 5: So Rock Party will have a real challenge in trying

1237
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: to decipher what Stags is doing. But when teams of

1238
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 5: Blitz purty this year, he's been Thermo nuclear against the Blitz,

1239
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 5: one of the two or three best quarterbacks the NFL

1240
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: against the Blitz, because and Spags was, I mean, he

1241
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 5: was effusive and his praise are purty. He brought up

1242
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: pretty a few times to the group of media that

1243
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 5: were there without even prompting, like this guy is great.

1244
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 5: He's got the quick game, he can hit the end

1245
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: cuts downfield, and he said he's not a second year player.

1246
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 5: Anyone who says he's the average is wrong. So Purdy

1247
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 5: will value up against the blitz but I don't think

1248
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 5: he's seen blitzeres like this before, so to me, and really,

1249
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 5: the Chiefs defense is why they're why they're here more

1250
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 5: than anything else. The way Spags just put it all

1251
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 5: together with these new guys and new pieces, and you

1252
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 5: talked about how the intelligence of this defense is something

1253
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 5: maybe he's never had before, these young guys who can

1254
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 5: come in and just take over. So yeah, blitzing pretty

1255
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 5: usually is a bad idea, But as I said, I

1256
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 5: don't think he's seen blitzes like the ones Spags will present.

1257
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Well. One of the things about Brock Purdy, he's been

1258
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: such a story because you know, he's drafted like mystery,

1259
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: I relevant is a huge story. We don't see guys

1260
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: like that very off and you can think of a

1261
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: couple of guys that would pick way down in the draft.

1262
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's is the most prominent one. Now, Brock Purty

1263
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: is a guy who looks to be on a really

1264
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: above expectation trajectory. Even Dak Prescott has been was a

1265
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: mid round pick, I believe, fourth round pick for the Cowboys. Yeah,

1266
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, so there's guys like that out there. Do

1267
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: guys like Brock Purdy and obviously Tom Brady and Dak

1268
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: Prescott kirk Cousins fourth round draft pick picked it the

1269
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: same year as RG. Three guys like that. How do

1270
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: they alter the evaluation process? And we're going to talk

1271
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: about your mock draft of the Bills in a little bit,

1272
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: but how do they change the evaluation process for deciding

1273
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: who could be good at the NFL level?

1274
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve, it's so hard with quarterbacks because so much

1275
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 5: of it is above the neck, and you can't really

1276
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 5: see that on tape per se. If you watch Purdy's

1277
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 5: college tap, he's a completely different guy. Not as mobile

1278
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 5: or not. I mean, he he made plays, but he

1279
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 5: was a little more logi in the pocket. And people

1280
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 5: just said about Prescott like, I don't know if he

1281
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: can move. Then he gets in the NFL, and you know,

1282
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 5: that's fine, not a problem. The two things that stand

1283
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 5: out to me about Purdy in the NFL and the

1284
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 5: postseason has been a little weird, but he has an

1285
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 5: ability to decipher coverage switches very well, and he usually

1286
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 5: throws with great anticipation, especially on He reminds me a

1287
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 5: lot of Jared Goff. You see Goff running those digs

1288
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 5: any kind of incut. He will throw before the receiver

1289
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 5: makes his break, and that's so crucial when you have

1290
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 5: that tight coverage. Perdy can do that very well as well.

1291
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 5: So he you know, anticipation, judging what the defense is

1292
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 5: trying to do to, you know, to get to array

1293
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 5: against you. And it's another reason he's so good against

1294
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 5: the blitz. He's also in a perfect situation with Kyle

1295
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 5: Shanahan where he is presented with and this is not

1296
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: to denigrate party, every every offensive coach should do this.

1297
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: You're presenting easy openings for your quarterback. So with Purdy,

1298
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: you know there's going to be some teams that, oh,

1299
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 5: we want the next rock Party, so let's get a

1300
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 5: you know, age looking guy from a sort of mid

1301
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: level college you know will have That's not really how

1302
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 5: it works. If anything changes in the evaluative sense, Steve,

1303
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 5: maybe it's we look a little more above the neck

1304
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 5: and we you know, focus on I don't know that

1305
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: the tests because a lot of people miss out on

1306
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 5: CGS Stroud with that. But maybe people look a little

1307
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 5: bit more at the processing ability and what people do

1308
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 5: above the neck to transfer onto the field. And I

1309
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 5: don't I mean outside of interviews and visits and things

1310
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 5: like that. I don't know how you do that, but

1311
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 5: really that's so much of what Perty's game is all.

1312
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: Right, moving from Perdy to the ground game. I think

1313
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: after the AFC Title game, the fact at Baltimore kind

1314
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: of abandoned the run average thirty one rushes per game,

1315
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: only ran the ball sixteen times in that game. That

1316
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: was I think the biggest criticism coming from that AFC

1317
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: Title game. Forty nine ers are probably going to be different,

1318
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: and I think the Chiefs run game in the playoffs

1319
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: and even down the stretch when they're leaning on Isaiah Pacheco,

1320
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: that kind of seems like when their offense is really

1321
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 3: at its best. So tell us about how and why

1322
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: the run game on both sides of the ball could

1323
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: ultimately determine who wins.

1324
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: A Super Bowl.

1325
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Ravens planted six running back carries in the

1326
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 5: whole game. Lamar had a twenty three yard quarterback draw

1327
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 5: and Gus Edwards haid that fifteen yard runner where the

1328
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 5: Chiefs stacked eight and they just flew right through it

1329
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: and then they stopped running the botto. I'm like, okay, guys,

1330
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: are coaches, you know more than I do.

1331
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: But weird.

1332
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 5: The interesting thing about the Chiefs just overall in a

1333
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 5: personnel sense is how much they run out of how

1334
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: much they operate at a heavy personnel. For the second

1335
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: straight year, the Chiefs led the NFL in throws out

1336
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 5: of thirteen personnel, which is three tight ends. Pacheco led

1337
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 5: the league in runs out of thirteen personnel. So they

1338
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 5: are a heavy personnel team and they will blow you

1339
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 5: off the ball with that stuff. So the Niners, I mean,

1340
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 5: they're an aggressive front and they'll do some overload stuff,

1341
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 5: but it's really you know, three to one side. They're

1342
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 5: basically a four on the floor front. Four guys and

1343
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 5: they're really coming after you. They want to attack. Well,

1344
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 5: that leaves gaps open. And a guy like Pacheco, yes,

1345
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 5: he you know all the memes, and he runs like

1346
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 5: someone knows the money in whatever. He runs like he

1347
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 5: bites people. But he's really good at getting outside, getting

1348
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 5: through skinny gaps, things like that. He's a professional running

1349
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 5: back and he can take it to you. That's been

1350
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 5: a kind of a weakness or a vulnerability for the

1351
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: for San Francisco's defense, and they can score so much

1352
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 5: on you. Usually it doesn't become a factor. I think

1353
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 5: in this game it could. On the other side, the

1354
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 5: Chiefs defense, same kind of attack, you know, although he's

1355
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 5: a lot more different fronts. Christian McCaffrey by far blew

1356
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 5: the rest of the league way in inside and outside

1357
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 5: and split zone. They are such a zone running team

1358
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 5: and they're so good at it, by far, the most

1359
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: prolific zone runner in the NFL. Chiefs haven't been really

1360
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 5: good at that. They've had some gap and some spacing

1361
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 5: and some key problems. So, and I've written about this,

1362
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 5: I think run defense could decide who wins this game.

1363
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a quick follow there.

1364
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: I think it's it's really interesting that you bring up

1365
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: thirteen personnel with the three tight ends in that division

1366
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 3: around game the Bills. That's what the Chiefs came out in.

1367
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: The Bills were down to rel Bernard. They were running

1368
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: through you know, third and fourth string linebackers.

1369
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 5: That to me, yeah, they were down everybody.

1370
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that in that game.

1371
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: I think that's how the Chiefs were able to move

1372
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 3: the ball as efficiently as they did. Patrick Mahomes still

1373
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: played well, but they were getting six seven yards of

1374
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: pop on the ground. Will be interesting in this Super

1375
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: Bowl to see you're not facing back up linebackers. You're

1376
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: facing dra Greenlaw and Fred Warner at the linebacker spot

1377
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: could be a little different, but certainly bringing that point

1378
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: up I think will draw the attention for just people

1379
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: watching the Super Bowl to see when and how often

1380
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: the Chiefs use those three tight ends when they're throwing

1381
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: the football or running it.

1382
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a quick follow on that. The Chiefs run

1383
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 5: a lot of four strong and they'll do it with

1384
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 5: their three tight ends. They'll bunch three tight ends and

1385
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 5: then bring the checko to that side. So then you've

1386
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 5: got if you've got two high coverage, it's four on

1387
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 5: three or four on two. And that's a real problem

1388
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 5: that the Kelsey or Kyle Hamilton, you know, missed the coverage.

1389
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 5: What happened was it was four on two and Kyle

1390
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 5: Hamilton was stuck like, well do I take Edwards Hilaire

1391
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: in the flat or do I take Kelsey on the

1392
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 5: corner wrapp He was, he was in an impossible situation.

1393
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 5: He keyed on Edwards Hilaire because I think it was

1394
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 5: the three yard conversion third and three or something like that,

1395
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 5: so Kelsey was wide open. Oh Hamilton busted it. Well,

1396
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 5: it wasn't really that it was what the Chiefs did,

1397
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 5: and the Bills used four strong a little bit more

1398
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 5: when Joe Brady took over, So you guys have seen

1399
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 5: that too. But I would expect a lot of that.

1400
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 5: And that's where Warner especially is key, because there's no

1401
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 5: better linebacker in sort of short to intermediate to deep

1402
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 5: intermediate coverage. That guy can go all over the field,

1403
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 5: and Warner and green Law do a lot of stuff

1404
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 5: with blitzes and zone exchanges. Another piece here wrote this week,

1405
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 5: you know people are saying, well, Steve's Steve Wilke's defense

1406
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 5: is static, like that's not what I saw this year.

1407
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: And they, you know, their front is pretty what it is,

1408
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 5: but they're so versatile and cover. They play a lot

1409
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 5: of Cover three and they'll start with too high and

1410
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 5: sort of bring it to that. So you know, Mahomes

1411
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 5: will know that, but I think it it won't. You're

1412
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 5: not going to beat Mahomes, but I think they could

1413
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 5: delay him with their coverage switches as well.

1414
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: We'll watch the Kansas City Chiefs. We've seen him. I mean,

1415
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 1: they're they're on the verge of being a dynastry. You know,

1416
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: four Super Bowls three looking for the third championship out

1417
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: of the last of five you know super Bowls. They

1418
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: muddled through the regular season offensively a little bit. They

1419
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: did not look like the same team. They were not

1420
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: the number one seed, they were the three seed. They

1421
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: and whereas parentally they've been the team that you had

1422
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: to go through Kansas City to get home. So it

1423
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: was a different year for Kansas City. What changed for

1424
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: them in the playoffs because they look a lot like

1425
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: they did the other three Super Bowls or two Super Bowls.

1426
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, excuse me. I think they were playing with their

1427
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 5: food a little bit, with in the personnel sets in

1428
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 5: the regular season, you know, trying to get Kadarius Tony

1429
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 5: on the on the right track and you know, mvs

1430
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 5: and all that. I think they've relied more on the

1431
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 5: sheet Rice who's a great young receiver, more more actually

1432
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 5: more three tight end stuff, two and three tight end stuff,

1433
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 5: and really Pacheco has become more and more of a factor.

1434
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 5: So it's more of a balanced run game. And the

1435
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 5: thing is, you know, Mahomes is not throwing it deep

1436
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: a lot that that's just not what their game is.

1437
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 5: They don't have that guy. We're going to talk about

1438
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 5: my mock and I would say that both of these,

1439
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 5: you know, both the Bills and the Chiefs could use

1440
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 5: a more consistent deep guy. But it really is more

1441
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 5: of a balanced run game. And it does harken back to,

1442
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 5: you know, the old Andy Reid Philadelphia Eagles teams where

1443
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 5: it was kind of a West Coast concept. It's a

1444
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 5: little different, but I think they've just keyed in on

1445
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 5: who works best for them in this particular offense. So

1446
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,879
Speaker 5: it's it's more it's more aligned scheme to personnel.

1447
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, So let's thanks for all that breakdown. We

1448
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: want to get back to Also one of the mock

1449
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: drafts you put together. You've You've got the Bills coming

1450
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: down on Tony Franklin, the wide receiver. He's six y

1451
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: three buck ninety out of Oregon. And obviously this is

1452
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: kind of a roll of the dice because down at

1453
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: twenty eight, lots could happen before it gets there. But

1454
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: there's no question the Bills are in the market for

1455
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: a wide receiver as good as they can get, as

1456
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: close to a number one guy as they could get.

1457
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: Why Tony Franklin.

1458
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Troy Franklin from Oregon, really good deep receiver, but

1459
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: he can take a screen and just blow through six three, one,

1460
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 5: seventy eight. Not a big guy, you know, not wide,

1461
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 5: not like huge, but can run just about any route.

1462
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 5: And he had fourteen receptions of twenty or more areas

1463
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 5: last year the Bills in total from the receivers had

1464
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 5: twenty four. He had seven touchdowns on deep passes the

1465
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: Bills receivers in total had six. They obviously need a

1466
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 5: guy like this. It won't be wrong with Doonsday from

1467
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 5: Washington because he'll be gone by twenty eight. But Brian

1468
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 5: Thomas Junior from LSU is a guy like another guy

1469
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 5: from watching Jalen Pope from Washington, kind of an underwraty guy. Well,

1470
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 5: he can send you, he can take the thing off

1471
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 5: the top. So if it's not Franklin, then someone who

1472
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 5: can take one safety and sort of make him his

1473
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 5: Huckleberry to a point with those deep routes. And also

1474
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 5: in Franklin's case, what I really like about him is

1475
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 5: the shorts intermediate passing game and how he's just a

1476
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 5: yack monster, because I think that is a big part

1477
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 5: of what Buffalo wants to do with their offense.

1478
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 3: So for me with Franklin and I think this is

1479
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: the ultimate kind of two pronged question for the Bills

1480
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: as they probably address receiver early. Do you see Troy

1481
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: Franklin as someone that can hit the ground running in

1482
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 3: year one and be that instant impact guy, or do

1483
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: you see him maybe it's going to take a year

1484
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: or two for him to develop and then eventually do

1485
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: you see him as someone who can be a wide

1486
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: receiver one in the Bills offense? Given the age of

1487
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs and you know, two or three years from now,

1488
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 3: I think the Bills will be hoping that they already

1489
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: have that air apparent two.

1490
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs on the roster.

1491
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 5: Sure swings, screens, steam routes, posts, things like that. I

1492
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 5: think he's ready, and it's just it's opening things up

1493
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 5: for him. He's going to be seeing different coverages. Obviously,

1494
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 5: the players are better. Obviously, you know, hit the ground

1495
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 5: running and receiver one. It's hard to quantify what those

1496
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 5: things mean. But if you were to tell me that

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Speaker 5: you know he'll hit you know, four or five deep

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Speaker 5: touchdowns and sixty catches for a thousand yards and maybe

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Speaker 5: four or five touchdowns in his rookie year, wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 5: I mean Brady knows how to get guys open. It's

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 5: just they haven't had that deep guy. And the thing

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: about the specter of that when you have that guy,

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 5: I mean, Gabe Davis was their primary deep receiver last year,

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 5: consistency issues did come into play. If you can get

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 5: maybe a couple of those guys all of a sudden,

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01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 5: and it's just a different offense. Defenses have to do

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Speaker 5: things differently as far as receiver one. I mean, I

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01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 5: could point to five or six guys in this draft

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Speaker 5: who could be that. It's just a matter of where

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: they land and kind of how they develop.

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Speaker 1: Doug Farrar USA Today writer and editors out in Loss

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Speaker 1: of Vent. Guess, thanks for joining us. Appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes with us.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Doug, My pleasure, guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Colide Health. We're going

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Speaker 1: to take a break and come back and join us.

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Speaker 2: This a Buffalo Bill's Great.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives Steep task. Along with

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso, we're talking about the Bill's draft coming up,

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01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: about how many hits they have to have in this draft,

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: how many picks have to be contributors for the Bills

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01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: to continue to be successful. Certainly, this is going to

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: be one of the most important draft classes of Brandon

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: Bean's tenure because they gotta have guy. I mean they are,

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: they're under tight constraints with a cap right now, and

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01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 1: they got to hit on some picks. So we asked

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01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: you how many contributors do the Bills need from this

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: draft and from the tweet sheet? The tweet sheet brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: system company of the Buffalo Bills, And we go to

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: first to Mickey. If they use all ten picks, I'd

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: like to see at least four of them getting meaningful

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: snaps on either respective side of the football. The other

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 1: six should at least be playing special teams. Ten guys

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01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 1: on the field from this draft is almost unrealistic.

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: That wouldn't happen with any team.

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: It's unrealistic, but I get it. If they are, it's

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01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: a home run. And certainly you're right, there's gonna be

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: guys from both sides of the ball in this draft.

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: They're not gonna draft ten offensive players or ten defensive players,

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01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: and there's probably gonna be a wide variet They're probably

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: gonna take a safety. They're probably gonna take a defensive

1543
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: lineman at some point, they are probably gonna take They're

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a wide receiver or three or you know,

1545
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: or two or three in this draft, not all of

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: them in the first two or three rounds, but there's

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna be certainly some taken even in the mid to

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: late rounds. So, yeah, ten guys contributing are actually on

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster.

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: It's a stretch, big time stretch.

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's never happened, but I can't

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: think of a team that I can remember that would have.

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01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in that response, four of them getting meaningful snaps,

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 3: I think three or four would be and this is

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: kind of the magic number that Steve has kind of

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 3: thrown out. Would be a home run that you had

1557
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: four in twenty twenty two to this past year. We'll

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: see what happens with Justin Shorter, who we've talked about,

1559
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 3: Dorian Williams, who I think is super talented, but he's

1560
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 3: kind of in a crowded linebacker room. The Bills get

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 3: a meaningful a meaningful weapon at wide receiver, someone along

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: the defensive line, and someone at safety, and we're talking

1563
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: like Dalton Kincaid level or Khalil Shakir level or Christian

1564
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: Benford level. Maybe not superstars, but look like quality players.

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01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 3: They get those three along with again some bargain bin

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01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 3: free agents, and then just returning the guys that they

1567
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: already have on this roster of the veterans, I think

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01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: they will be in great shape. And if you have

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 3: ten picks, chances are you probably, especially with this scouting

1570
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: department in this GM, you're probably gonna get those three

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 3: guys in this draft.

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think if you can get four, you're

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: going to be great. This from Jeremy on the tweets sheet,

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01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: he goes, I believe we should have at least four

1575
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 1: if all the picks are used all ten. The compensatory

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: pick could be the big difference. Hitting forty percent is

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: huge and reasonable if we have a few picks that high. Certainly,

1578
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: you got to think that the guys at the top

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: three picks of this draft, and I can't remember exact numbers,

1580
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: is twenty eight, I think it's sixty to ninety or

1581
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm not sure exactly what they are,

1582
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: but if they hit on those three guys. You can

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: bet that even if they when they pick those guys,

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: if indeed they have all those three picks, those guys

1585
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: are going to have some physical gifts that will stand out.

1586
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: That'll give you an idea that, man, they got a

1587
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: chance to be good. That's kind of what happens when

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: you get up in the high first day of the

1589
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: draft or the second day of the draft. These guys

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: are still the really, really physically gifted guys.

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: And I think we have to look at these ten

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 3: picks from the right perspective of where these picks are.

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: They have the first round pick, a second round pick,

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: they're going to get the third round compensitory for lousing

1595
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmonds last offseason. Then a fourth, then two fifths,

1596
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: three sixth, and a seventh. Now this would come in.

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01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm the biggest advocate keep all your picks, trade back

1598
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: at more just because of you know that thirty forty

1599
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: percent range. If you're hitting there and you get more

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 3: roles at the table, then you're all of a sudden

1601
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 3: turning two good players into three or four. But you

1602
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 3: could also look at the other side of the coin

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01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: and say, maybe the Bills are not wanting to make

1604
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: three sixth round picks because those like we're saying, it's

1605
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 3: going to be hard for those guys to make the roster.

1606
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 3: You package one of the sixth you know, a twenty

1607
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: twenty five fifth rounder, to move up in the fourth

1608
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 3: round and get someone that you really like, whether it

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: be that he's very refined or he has a lot

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01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 3: of upside. So you see ten picks and it's not

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: like they have, you know, two first, two seconds, two thirds,

1612
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 3: two fourth, it's more backloaded.

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,919
Speaker 2: So that makes me think that although, like we've said, Khalil.

1614
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 3: Shakir fifth rounder, Christian Benford sixth rounder, I think this

1615
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 3: staff has shown that they can hit on those late

1616
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: round picks. But in general, if you just look at

1617
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 3: the draft as a whole, it's going to be harder

1618
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: for those guys to play meaningful snaps and become good players.

1619
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 3: It just a lower percentage chance the further you go

1620
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: down the draft board, which makes me think that Brandon

1621
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: Bean will be in the trade up mentality. Maybe not

1622
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: in the first round unless one of the receivers that

1623
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: he really likes is there within striking distance, but second, third,

1624
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 3: fourth round, like they did with say Dawson Knox, a

1625
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 3: few drafts ago that they identified him as the guy

1626
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: that they really liked. They liked his upside, they traded

1627
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 3: up to get him. I could see on Day two

1628
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: or early Day three using some of those later extra

1629
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 3: picks to move up to get who they want.

1630
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's you know, everything's on the

1631
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: table with Brandon Bean.

1632
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: You knew it.

1633
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: He trades up a lot in the first round. Has

1634
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: only been one year of his tenure here that he

1635
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: didn't and that bears watching. But I think we're into

1636
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: the somebody's gonna have to hit in this draft, no

1637
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: question about it.

1638
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: For sure.

1639
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: They're absolutely going to be dependent on that. Otherwise they're

1640
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: going to have some things they really have to overcome.

1641
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: As the sea and wear ison from Dinah on the

1642
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: tweets sheet, she says, out of the ten picks, she says,

1643
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: at least six figure. We'll use one or two to

1644
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: move up. Other teams will grab a couple when we

1645
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: try to put them on the practice squad. We may

1646
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: not need six depending on free agency, but we're losing

1647
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: a lot of players this year and need bodies. Yeah. Now,

1648
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have trouble feeling, you know, fifty three

1649
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: man roster, no question about it. They're gonna have, you know,

1650
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: space to do that. But having yeah, you're just not

1651
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna get six guys that play meaningful snaps out of

1652
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: one draft class unless if we're talking unless there's something

1653
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: catastrophic that.

1654
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 3: Happens, if you're talking special teams, and like that response

1655
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: from Dinah is saying that you just need bodies that,

1656
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: say you lose a Tyler Matakaevich on the special teams,

1657
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 3: Saran Neil potentially suddenly, yeah, you do need some younger guys,

1658
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 3: and you mostly want to plug in relatively inexpensive players

1659
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 3: on special teams.

1660
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: You don't want them to get injured.

1661
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 3: You don't want you know, you're running out your number

1662
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: one tight end or your number one or number two

1663
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 3: corner on special teams. Six, though, would be a stretch.

1664
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 3: I think again, three or four would be amazing. I

1665
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 3: think they at least need to They need a wide

1666
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 3: receiver and either someone on the defensive line or at

1667
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 3: safety most likely to be that meaningful o Cyrus Torrance

1668
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid type. Then as you extend further out and

1669
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 3: you get to four or five, I think you would

1670
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 3: have to be saying, oh, well, yeah, he played meaningful

1671
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: snaps as a punt gunner or on special teams, returning kicks,

1672
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 3: blocking for kickoffs, something like that. Really, I don't think

1673
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: you'll find many teams unless they're rebuilding and they're like, hey, look,

1674
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: we're just going to throw out a bunch of rookies.

1675
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 3: You're not going to see six or seven rookies playing

1676
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: meaningful snaps from the same draft class.

1677
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: So if you get into this looking at how many

1678
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: they've got ten picks, and I'll give you the numbers.

1679
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,919
Speaker 1: I mean, what picks over all they are. It's twenty eight, sixty,

1680
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: ninety nine, one, twenty eight, one fifty eight, one sixty one,

1681
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: one ninety seven, two oh one, two oh five. So

1682
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: they got one to ninety seven, two to one, and

1683
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: two oh five, and then they end up with two

1684
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: forty five. So they've got those ten picks. They start

1685
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: from twenty eight and go all the way to two

1686
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: hundred and forty fifth.

1687
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

1688
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: And they've got a couple of clusters in there, which

1689
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: is the compensatory picks and the ones that come at

1690
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: the end of the You know, they always draft at

1691
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: the bottom of the round, so you get the twenty

1692
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: eighth pick, and then you get a compensatory pick at

1693
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: the end of that round whatever it is, so it'll

1694
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: be the after the fifth round, they'll get a compensatory

1695
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: pick at one sixty one, you know what I mean.

1696
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: Although the fifth rounder is from Green Bay for the results,

1697
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: they got that back. So they got that back. Yeah. So,

1698
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: and then the one ninety seven is from the Rams.

1699
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: The two to oh one is from Dallas. Uh so

1700
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: they've got three picks from other teams. None of this

1701
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: seems to be uh yeah, third round, yeah, the third

1702
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: The ninety ninth is the compensatory pick.

1703
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the that's the ninety nine pick.

1704
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: So the top one hundred picks is pretty good for

1705
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 3: a team that's been on the cusp of making AFC

1706
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 3: title games getting to a super Bowl.

1707
01:21:59,000 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty good.

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: And that's where you're thinking, Okay, we got to get

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01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: somebody in there. We got to get somebody who can

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01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: contribute maybe two out of those three, and Brownie's sitting

1711
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: here pounding the table. They're gonna can take two wide

1712
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: receivers with those and get double up. I'm not convinced

1713
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: I get it. You may need one but depending on

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01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: the quality. If you get got twenty eight, then you

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01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: don't need them at sixteen nine.

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: Because I got twenty eight. It's gonna theoretically, of course,

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: all this is theoretical, but it's gonna be one of

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: those guys that is for sure gonna get on the field.

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: And then okay, then because if you get if you

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01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: take the one at night, now you're not gonna get

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: both those guys on the field, right, So you need

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: somebody at sixty and somebody ninety nine that actually can play.

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: Then don't draft nine wide receivers when you can only

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01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: put two on the field, I guess, is my point.

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01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: It would more be about opportunity at that point that

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01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: there's just with Stuph Diggs and with Khalil Shakir. If

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 3: you want to insert Justin Shorter off the red shirt

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01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: season the first round wide receiver in this kind of

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: theoretical situation, then it would be hard for even a

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: third rounder to get on the field. You might want

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 3: to invest on the defensive line, either on the interior

1733
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 3: next to Ed Oliver or maybe at defensive end if

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01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: they don't retain aj Epanessa. So I certainly think they

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01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 3: have a lot of options. They definitely will have some holes.

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01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: Every team does. We talked about the continuity and how

1737
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: you can't just run it back and just hope your

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01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 3: team from the previously year can just do exactly what

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 3: it did the year before. So the Bills are not

1740
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 3: in that unfamiliar of a situation. As teams that are

1741
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: getting to divisional rounds and winning the AFC East, winning

1742
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: their own division, you're gonna be picking late in the

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01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 3: round and you have to replenish with young talent. What's

1744
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: good is about Brandon Bean's tenure. Like I mentioned, he

1745
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 3: misses on kyer Elam in the first round trades up.

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01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: It seems terrible. But also in that same draft class,

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 3: you pick up Christian Benford in round six and he

1748
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: right now, it's kind of a wash. I mean, you

1749
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: would like, of course, both of those corners to be

1750
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 3: good players. But I remember being on a radio show

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 3: before training camp and it was like, how big is

1752
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 3: it for kyer Elam to be good this season? I said,

1753
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: for him, it's big, But for the Bills it's not really.

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 3: As long as Christian Benford plays well, they have their

1755
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: cornerback probably number one of the future, so he's shown

1756
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: that he can find those gems.

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01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: Later in the draft.

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01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: He'll probably trade up at some point to get that

1759
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: guy that they've identified in the scouting department that they want.

1760
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 3: But keep an eye on the fifth and the sixth

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: round is Tyler Bass being another one Khalil Shakira that

1762
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: I mentioned. They've found those players that have become quality

1763
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 3: pros and are really cheap later in the draft.

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: From Nick on the tweets Sheety, he writes in and says,

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: with losing major contributors at wide receiver, defensive end, defensive tackle,

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01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: and safety, I'd say they need at least three major

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 1: contributors at wide receiver, defensive end, and tackle. Yeah, defensive

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01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: tackle and possibly a safety if they can't land a

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: cheap free agent starter, cheap labor and younger, less injury

1770
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: prone players are a must. Let the youth movement begin. Yeah,

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01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it done. It's possible, and certainly

1772
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Allen Alla like Pat Mahomes and

1773
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City was able to do it for a year.

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01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: When they lost Tyreek Hill and they lost their entire

1775
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: secondary in defense, they replenished the defense secondary with draft

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: picks and they went back to him won the Super

1777
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 1: Bowl after losing Tyreek Hill. So it's been done recently

1778
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: by other teams. And I think when you got a

1779
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: guy pulling a trigger like Josh or like Pat Mahomes,

1780
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: he gives you a margin of error.

1781
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good point that Josh Allen is

1782
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 3: going to make any wide receiver on this roster better

1783
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: just from him. And I said this yesterday what he

1784
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: can do with the football, throwing the ball at all

1785
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 3: levels of the field and having Joe Brady in the

1786
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: year two as the offensive coordinator, getting familiar with what

1787
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 3: Josh Allen likes, what he doesn't like, what plays work,

1788
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: what don't. And then on the other side you have

1789
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott and we don't know who's going to call

1790
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 3: the plays. Is it going to be him or Bobby Babbage,

1791
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: But like you mentioned Steve, Bobby Babage has been with

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01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott since twenty seventeen. Sean McDermott has proven that

1793
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 3: he gets the most out of his talent on the

1794
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: defensive side. So they're in a good spot.

1795
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: All right, we'll tell your calls maybe after the break

1796
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: if we get a chance right now, we're gonna take

1797
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back with more of your

1798
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: feedback on the tweet sheet. How many Bills draft picks

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01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 1: must be contributors this season for the Bills to continue

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01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: to be successful. We're gonna take a break. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Task along with

1803
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Chris Papasso, We're going back to the tweet sheet. How

1804
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: many of Buffalo's draft picks, of the ten picks they have,

1805
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: how many must be contributors for the team to be

1806
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: successful Again from Brian, he says must is a deal

1807
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: breaker if they end up with six or seven picks,

1808
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: which means they're gonna use three or four to move up.

1809
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I guess in some of these picks and four or

1810
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: five become four or five of those six or seven

1811
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: picks become perennial contributors, with two to four stepping into

1812
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: prominent roles this year, I'll be happy. He also says this,

1813
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: which is I found true. I agree with it. Bean

1814
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 1: will also fill out all but one or two holes

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01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: in free agency. I think that's something we forget about.

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01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to free up some cap space. They'll

1817
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: free up all the pace they need before the draft.

1818
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: They have to do it by the new league year

1819
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: start at mid March. They're gonna fill a ton of

1820
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: holes in free agency. Now, some of those holes will

1821
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: be filled by guys that you can get excited about,

1822
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: but you are available for a reason. Like last year,

1823
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: we were pretty excited about Trent Sherfield, pretty excited about

1824
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: Deontae Hardy, and while they did some things in the season,

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: they weren't splashes in production wise. Right.

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01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look at the history of Brandon

1827
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 3: Bean along the defensive line, For as much as I

1828
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: do think the Bills will draft a defensive tackle, probably

1829
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: a defensive end as well, Guys like Daikwon Jones, Tim

1830
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: settle A fi Obada a few years ago. He likes

1831
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 3: to have Quentin Jefferson a few years ago, who played well.

1832
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 3: He likes to have that veteran next to Ed Oliver

1833
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 3: that that piece. Obviously bringing in Linval Joseph during the

1834
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 3: season this year, he's going to do his part with

1835
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 3: a lot of one year deals. Like we mentioned yesterday,

1836
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 3: guys that you can lure in here for the culture,

1837
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: the fact that the Bills are thirty games over five

1838
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: hundred in the last four years. Things like that, where

1839
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 3: the Bills are not going to go in with man

1840
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 3: a glaring need at receiver, a glaring need at safety,

1841
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: a glaring need at defensive tackle. He is shown to

1842
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 3: still be able to be active even with that big

1843
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: quarterback contract and a lot of other big contracts on

1844
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 3: the roster, which is not easy to do for a

1845
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 3: lot of GMS.

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01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's another one from Pat who's maybe perhaps

1847
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: a listener of the shows. We talk about this a lot.

1848
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: To me, this isn't a draft question, but a development question.

1849
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: If the ten Bills picks, how many will be given

1850
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: a chance to play, how many will struggle grow and

1851
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: grow versus how many will get buried behind serviceable veterans.

1852
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: Most should get coached up and contribute. In my opinion,

1853
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing too. Some of these guys are going

1854
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 1: to may not be ready when camp starts, but by

1855
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: and even by our started the regular season. But week ten,

1856
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 1: week twelve, week fourteen, maybe they're solid, maybe great starters

1857
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: on whatever position you want to put them at.

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about this past year, suddenly a bunch of

1859
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 3: injuries hit the middle of the season and Dorian Williams

1860
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 3: is out there and a lot of young pashes and

1861
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 3: he flashed, and Khalil Shakir went from a fifth or

1862
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 3: sixth option up to a second or third option. So yes,

1863
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 3: they will have to be ready and you want them

1864
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: by November and December, where the Bills have historically been

1865
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 3: really good in the Sean McDermott era to be able

1866
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 3: to play in that first season.

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Speaker 1: Plenty more to talk about. We're going to be back

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01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow talking about this draft and what the Bills are

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01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna do. Christopher Prossor will be back with me. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. More draft talk tomorrow and more

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