1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: you by bally bet Now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Nathan Segura. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Hi, let's go live on a Tuesday edition of the program. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Bo and Gibe here with you as we do the 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily. We are brought to you by bally 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Bets sports betting partner, your Cleveland Browns and No live 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: in Ohio and eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Good to talk 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: to you, my friend. You like I saw this morning 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the news of our great friend Bernie Cozar and in 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: the Cleveland magazine story, I know we both reached out 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: to Bernie independently heard back from him, as is typically 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: the case with him. His spirits are sky high always. Yeah, 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: you know, you've known him longer than I have. I've 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: gotten to know him pretty well here over the last 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: seven or eight seasons or ever long it's been since 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: since I've been doing the show, and he used to 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: come in regularly. We'd see him once a week. I 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: did a little bit of the TV show with him 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: years ago. I don't recall a single time ever seeing 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: him where he wasn't in the best mood ever, biggest smile. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: You'd never know if there was anything good or but 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: anything bad going on in his life, You'd have no 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: idea because every time he walks into a room, he's 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: got a smile on his face and he is ready 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: to be Bernie Kozar. And what that means in Cleveland, Ohio, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: and what that means to a Brown's nation is the 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: ambassador for this franchise of the last fifty years. That's 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: what he is. He's been the face of it, through good, 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: the bad, through all of it. He's been the epitome 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: of what it is to be a Cleveland Brown. And 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: so he's aware of that, and so he's ready to 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: kiss babies and shake hands because that's all part of it. 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: But he's genuinely one of the kindest, happiest guys I've 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: ever come in contact with in our time. And so 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: to see the news this morning in the piece in 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Cleveland Magazine and then to read it and have that 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: kind of hit home and then hear how positive he's 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: taking all of it, and have a little bit of 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: correspondence with him this one hits hard because he is. 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: I think Ze said at one time that he is 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: more popular here than Joe Montana was in San Francisco. 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: I would argue that Bernie is more popular here or 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: as popular here, as any athlete is in any hometown ever. 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about like Maridona in Buenos Aires or 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Messi and Buenos Pele and sal Paulo. I mean, like, 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: it's that type of universal adulation that he has. And 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: so when you hear news of this and I read 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: it this morning, it hits you hard. 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it does. 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: I don't. 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean my youth in the eighties. Yeah, that Bernie 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: was as big a part of that as anything. I 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: remember it. His ex wife was a teacher at l 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: like what high school? 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: Really? 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like they were when they were dating, Like 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: it was like that's Bernie's that's Bernie's lady. Oh yeah, 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: it was. It was wild. But like Bernie, Bernie was 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: he still is. He was a god to be growing up. 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: Like it was Bernie Kosar, It was Bernie. It was 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: Mac and Byner and Slaughter and Ozzie Knewsome and then 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: on the defensive side, it was Clay and Carl Big Daddy, 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: Harriston and Hanford and Minifield and Felix right. 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: And like that. 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: Everybody was lovable. But Bernie was the leader of the group. Yep. 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: Like and you know, Bernie got ready for games, and 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Bernie performed and performed at a high level. But when 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: it was time to have fun, I'm not sure there 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: was a better ring leader. Yeah, for the fun portion 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: of the program then Bernie, like you would see, he 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: would go out to bars, he would hang out with fans. 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: He you know, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't like. 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't like today where everybody's kind of isolated or 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: there's a VIP room or there's a back area for 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: everybody to hang out. I mean those guys they had 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: drinks with you. Yeah, like you could be sitting next 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: to them at dinner. And I mean Bernie, Bernie was 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: the face and the guy that bucked the draft, and 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: you know, said I'm going to enter the supplemental Draft 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: because that's the best chance for me to come home. 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: What he did. So there was a couple of weeks 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: ago there was a it was the anniversary of the 86 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: supplemental Draft, and I knew I knew some of it, 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: but I did not know the full details of how 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: it all happened, and I went and looked it up, 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: and I'm I'll probably get some of this stuff wrong, 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: and people can correct me on social the parts of 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: it I get wrong. But basically, they used a loophole 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: in terms of his graduation rate at the University of 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: Miami to get him in the supplemental draft, and because 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: he did not declare for the actual NFL draft, where 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: rest assured he would have been the number one pick 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: in that draft. And I just talked about this, I 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: think a couple of weeks ago. There were two teams 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: that tried suing the league, Houston and one other one 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: that were interested in suing the league for Bernie getting 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: around going into the regular draft and avoiding playing for them. 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: And it was Buffalo who did the deal with us 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: for the Browns to acquire the number one pick in 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: the supplemental draft to acquire him. But because he did 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: not declare for the regular draft, he went into supplemental 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: and then he was able to get himself in a 106 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: position where he could be drafted by his hometown team. 107 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: It's the definition of gets us as a youngstown kid. 108 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: So I want to play for the Browns and I'm 109 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: going to make sure I do. And he did, and 110 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: they actually have to put in a rule the following 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: year saying that we can't do that anymore. 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: Oh, we got our guy. 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all the rules you want to make you 114 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: need to do. 115 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 116 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: So like Cleveland, we have the Ted Stepien rule, which 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: is you can't sell draft picks consecutively. So that comes 118 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: from us, and then we have Bernie on the other 119 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: end of it, who engineered his playing career here. And 120 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: I think I think that I was trying to think 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: about this morning in terms of his beloved nature, and 122 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: there really isn't anybody I could come up with. I 123 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: was thinking, like, universally beloved in a city where I mean, 124 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: I suppose like Magic Johnson in Los Angeles would probably 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: have that to where he is the pied piper and 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: he's that he's universally beloved. There's probably some NFL situations 127 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: like that. I don't like Jim Kelly and Buffalo. It 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: feels like it has to be a northern city with 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: the exception maybe of Magic, where you know, like we 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: put so much into our sports here and it matters 131 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: so much. But I was saying this morning, I don't 132 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: know if Lebron James never left and if he had 133 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: won three titles with the Cavaliers, I still don't know 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: if he would have been Bernie. I don't think so. 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: I think just because the Cavaliers will never be the Browns, 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: they never will like there is this this franchise is 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: so entwined with the fabric of this city and this region, 138 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: and he was the perfect rep is the perfect representation 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: of it through all those years, and it's I just 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, the crazy thing is it's a 141 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: relatively short period. It's eighty five to ninety two, correct. 142 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I mean you feel like sometimes we talk about Bernie 143 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: and we think that he played here for eighteen years, 144 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: but he didn't. It was a pretty short stint. It 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: was a brilliant stint, but it was a short stint. 146 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: They got to the precipice of championships twice but weren't 147 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: able to knock down the door. But just universally beloved. 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: And still to this day. Yes, I mean that's I 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: had a buddy of mine. 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: He was his girlfriend or his wife is from New 151 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: York and she was coming to the Jets game a 152 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and he said, well, I said, well, 153 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: what's she wearing. She goes Jets jersey and I said, 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: what are you wearing? He goes, I was gonna wear 155 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: a Kozar jersey. I said, you'll be fine. Yeah, you'll 156 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: be fine. Yeah, no big deal, You're gonna be good. 157 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean, was it ninety two? Was that when he 158 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: got cut? Yeah? I believe ninety two. So then he 159 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: goes to Dallas and they couldn't keep Cozart nineteen Cowboy 160 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: jerseys in stock. I mean, it became bigger than a 161 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: Browns thing. I mean it became a we're ride or 162 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: die with our guy and hoping he gets a ring. 163 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: And when he played in the NFC, I think it 164 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: was the NFC Championship game, and then he got in 165 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: at the end of the Super Bowl, like it was 166 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: it was awesome, like you were just so so happy 167 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: for him. But he never forgot where he came from 168 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: and came back and like, hey, I did that, and 169 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: I you know, I played a couple more years, but 170 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: never home was always Cleveland. And that's you know, that 171 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: doesn't happen much in this day and age. You know, 172 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: players players go to other places. They don't stay here 173 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: in the off season, they don't, you know. Yeah, and 174 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: guys like him, guys like Deeke Hanford, you know, they 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: they stuck around. They're here and they're here. They've been 176 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: here for the long haul, and they're entwined and everything 177 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: that goes on and in this you know, in this 178 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: world that surrounds the Clee. But you know, it's like 179 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: we talked about Lebron yesterday when he left, Like when 180 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: the Browns came back in ninety nine, who was on 181 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: the field. Bernie. Yeah, when Lebron came back for the 182 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: first time in Cleveland, wanted to be united against the 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: Miami Heat. It's a Browns player that's on Oh, that's 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: on the court. 185 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. 186 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there were numerous other people, but Bernie's there. 187 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 2: He's always there. I used to do this bit where 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: like anytime, especially in the lean years of the franchise, 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: you know, the end of Learner is the assles st 190 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: taking over ownership. He's like, anytime he wanted a universal 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: standing ovation in the building, just trot Bernie out to 192 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: center field and you'll get one. Yeah, Like it was 193 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: kind of that's just if he the amount of times 194 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: I've seen Bernie honored at midfield. It happens all the time, 195 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: and rightfully, rightfully so, but it's just he has that 196 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: and he needs us now. He's He had some quotes 197 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: in the story here. He is going to need a 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: liver transplant in the future. That is part of it. 199 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: And Bernie also has been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease as well, 200 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: so he will need require that liver transplant in the future. 201 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: He is just sixty. He had this quote and he said, 202 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: I strongly believe in the power of positive thinking. For me, 203 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: it's not just a slogan. I believe that positive energy 204 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: can be manifested in our brains. I love to live 205 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: in the space of positivity. I want to think about 206 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: things that are helpful. It sounds like I'm getting on 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: a soapbox here, but I visualize good health. It's not 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: so much that I'm trying to sell it to myself 209 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: or that I'm in denial, as it is choosing to 210 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: be positive because everybody's got something. We've all got health 211 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: issues to some degree, we all have bumps in the road. 212 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: There you go. That sums it up. 213 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a lot of it. When it comes 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: down to Parkinson's is the power of positivity and the 215 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: support group. I mean, my father's got Parkinson's. So it's 216 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: all about the people that are surrounding you and whatever 217 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: everybody can do to help, and whether it's just a 218 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: kind word, whether it's thinking about the you know, the 219 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: power of prayer if you believe in that, you know, 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: and the great medical people in this town, yes that's 221 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're in a good place for for 222 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: for problems, Yes you are. So the very best are here. 223 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: You know. I believe that you know nothing but good 224 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: things are going to come his way. And you know, 225 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 3: I mean that this city, this city loves him and 226 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: you know we're all hoping and praying for him. 227 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Jamie with this nineteen is the reason I love football. 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: We love you nineteen. I think that'll be a Brown's 229 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: nation will wrap its arms around Bernie Cozar today as 230 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: it has over the much of his life. Yes, I 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: think much more positivity coming his way. Absolutely. How many 232 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: you think about how many like how many dogs are 233 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: named Bernie and this over the like you know, in 234 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: the last forty years of this town, how many dogsbody cats? 235 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: But he p had so many how many kids nicknames 236 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: or that, how many nineteen jerseys were sold, how many 237 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: babies were born, how many babies were named? Yeah, I 238 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: mean that's he's the man. 239 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: He never wanted to leave, came back, you know that 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: the day that Belichick caught him. Yeah, I mean. 241 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: I was happy we had him in here, and I 242 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: was happy that he talked about the two of them 243 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: mending the fences on that. That was, you know, because 244 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: we've talked to him about that too, So that was 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: that was all pretty cool through the years that all 246 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: of that happened. But our thoughts and prayers organizations are 247 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: with Bernie Kozar today as that news became public in 248 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: the Cleveland magazine story. Coming up next, we'll get into 249 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: the hot topics of the day, go around some of 250 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: the sports world as well. A lot of little news 251 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: and notes here to get to mentioned yesterday Burrow on 252 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: Pardon My Take, some of the highlights from that, some 253 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: of his comments story, and Thompson Robinson on the program 254 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: as well. We will break down interior defenders out of 255 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season. Jabari Thrash, rookie first round 256 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: pick on the program today as well. 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Visit Cleveland Browns dot com slash next Gen 265 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: STM to reserve your spot to day Hot Topics around 266 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: the League presented by University Hospitals. Steelers defensive back Cameron 267 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: Sutton has been suspended without pay for the first eight 268 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: games of the twenty twenty four season for violating the 269 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: NFL's Personal conduct Policy. 270 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: It was a domestic violence situation that clearly warranted the 271 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: league stepping in and really hammering him. Yeah good, Yeah, exactly, 272 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. 273 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Can't tolerate that. Jaguars defensive been Josh Allen changing his 274 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: last name to Heinz Allen. His reading the name changes 275 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: to honors family members who wore the name Heines Allen 276 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: on the back of their jerseys. Heines Allen has three sisters, 277 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: all of whom play college basket, one currently w NBA. 278 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: He also has an uncle who played in the NBA. 279 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: There will now only be one Josh Allen in the league. 280 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: He was He's out of Kentucky, right, Josh Allen? That's 281 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: what I thought. Yeah, defensive end of Kentucky first round 282 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: pick a couple of years ago. This is will this take? 283 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: Will he demand you call him it? I guess like 284 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: no one ever says their last name anyway. 285 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: There's Heines Allen tackle Heines Allen. 286 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: I guess it's always hard when they do this in 287 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: the middle of it all, Like we did that with 288 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Tyrod Tad. You know when he was here. 289 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: It was like, wait, what told us at the podium? 290 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: It's actually to Rod? 291 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: Come again. You played all those years at Virginia Tech 292 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: and all this time in the league and you've been 293 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: Tyrod and now you're to Rod. 294 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: Going into a game. I think Week one, no pressure, 295 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: but we got to change everything how we call the 296 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: game and call him. We're gonna go, okay, all right, sure, great, 297 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, like I get it. 298 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: I we still at some point stop them. I mean 299 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: that because of the spelling of my name, I would 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: get I would certainly get on an opposing team announcing starters, 301 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: I would get a beew. That definitely happened. I would 302 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: get that. And then I remember when people are many 303 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: people recruited me, but those who did it was several 304 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: times it was b e a n like Bean, so 305 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: I would have I had a coach on from one 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: school Division two school in North Dakota called me and 307 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: want call my parents' house and asked to speak to 308 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Bean Bishop. That's what they asked for. And I thought, well, 309 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: there's not a Bean, but there's a bow. And also 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to North Dakota, so that's just going 311 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: to shake out. But not so it happens. But like you, 312 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: even as a kid who knew nothing, I corrected. Like 313 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: you feel like it's being pronounced wrong, just correct it 314 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: even when you're young. You could have directed it at 315 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. And this is a different choice, obviously, trying 316 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: to honor others who did it, didn't Was it it 317 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: was Maurice Jones Drew who did it? 318 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Was it Maurice Jones? 319 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: It was just yeah, it was yeah. He changed it 320 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: to Jones Drew or was it Maurice Drew. It was 321 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: one of the other, but he added it in there too. Yeah, 322 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: there was another. Well, there was the UCLA running back 323 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Kareem Abdul Jabbar who did it at one point, but 324 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: that was that was more the spelling, and I think 325 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: the Kareem Abdul Jabbar the basketball player tried stopping him. 326 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: Do I have that right on Maurice Jones Drew. 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: Although Jones Drew was his legal name, he went just 328 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: by Maurice Drew early in his Bruins career. 329 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 330 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: During the five season, he reinstalled Jones to honor his grandfather, Maurice, 331 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: who died after suffering a heart attack all attending a 332 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: UCLA game at the Rose Bowl. 333 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. So there was I thought 334 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: I had that in some form you did. Yeah, Brandon, 335 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: I have posting pictures and watch Commander's practice film to 336 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: his TikTok account. The current forty nine Ers receiver slated 337 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: to play under his fifth year option this season, but 338 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: he has made it clear he wants an extension here. 339 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: So if we were doing thing or not a thing 340 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: right now, think Brandon and iuk posted pictures of him 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: watching Commander's practice film to his TikTok account. The current 342 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers receiver is slated to play under his 343 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: fifth year option this season, but he's made it clear 344 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: he wants an extension. Thing or not a thing, not 345 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: a thing, not yet, not yet, until something gets close. 346 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: This is all just the needling. It's just the public 347 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: negotiation that takes place between player and team. He's been 348 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: noisy all summer with this stuff. He wants a deal, 349 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get him one until something comes 350 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: of it. It's not a thing. 351 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: I will say this, and I agree with you. If 352 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: he's doing this in season, then there's a problem. 353 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but. 354 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: Why not give him a deal? Like I'd give him 355 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: a deal before i'd give Deebo Samuel anymore money. 356 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 2: I think what they're I don't have any I mean, 357 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: Z would have a better handle on because he has 358 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: Pedro at his disposal, a better handle on their cap 359 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: situation going forward. But my hunch, my hunch would be 360 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: is they know they're gonna have to pay party at 361 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: some point, and they don't want to get in a 362 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: position where they can't keep everybody else Like they paid McCaffrey. 363 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: They're paying a lot of people right now, and they 364 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: still have this window where they don't have to pay party, 365 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: but they're gonna have. 366 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: To sure, so that's probably after year yeh. 367 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: I don't know when his rookie situation. Now, he's got 368 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: those bonuses because he's played so well, so it's something 369 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: he's making six round money, but he also hasn't gotten 370 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million correct at some point that's coming. 371 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: So has he played two years because he went to 372 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game, lost a. 373 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Filler in the league or is second this is just 374 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: his third year? Yeah, yeah, so he's just going into 375 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: year three. 376 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: So I feel like after like day one, contracts are 377 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: only four years, so do you try to get out 378 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 3: in front of that? 379 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: Well, they would be smart to, right, but also like 380 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: they're paying everybody else, So like that's what I'm wondering. 381 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I'm sure they would love to have Brandon 382 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: Ayuk long term, but at the same time, like they 383 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: also have to make sure they have cap flexibility in 384 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: the future. Yeah, for the rest of their roster, and 385 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: especially when they're finally gonna have to pay a quarterback, 386 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: which they haven't had to. 387 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: Do twenty twenty five will be the final year of 388 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: his rookie contract. 389 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Jeez, who's got this year and next, so they'll probably 390 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: do a deal. They'll do a deal after this year 391 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: with him when he has one year left. That's why 392 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: he'll do it. 393 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: I take that back. This is the final year. 394 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: So they probably have a team option for next. 395 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Come to twenty twenty. This is on Yahoo two years ago. 396 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: Black Party was mister relevant. Come to twenty twenty five season, 397 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: the two hundred and sixty second selection of the draft 398 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: will be playing under a mega rich contract extension. The 399 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: twenty four year old Party enters the final all year 400 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: of his rookie contract in twenty twenty four, which we'll 401 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: see him make a salary of nine hundred and eighty 402 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: five thousand. 403 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: So he's he so they have so that's it. 404 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, after this, after three, after year three. 405 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm seeing some of this stuff from all 406 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: the way back in March around free agency and all 407 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: of that. The former seventh the forty nine ers are 408 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: ready to pay Brock Party some of the who's that 409 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: guy we always have from Arizona Sports. He has some 410 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: writing on this. Howard ballser Yeah, yeah, yeah, could make 411 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: so the forty nine ers could well, the forty nine 412 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: ers play hardball in negotiations with PERTY. So all of 413 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: this is coming to head this summer. But the forty 414 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: nine ers would be able to franchise Take Party until 415 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six using progestions based on twenty five as 416 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: a baseline, so they could tag him for the for 417 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: the next couple of years. They could do the Cousins 418 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: thing and have forty five million or whatever that that 419 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: number would be for the next couple of years. So 420 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: there's there's that that's in play too. He's not going anywhere, 421 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: but I'm guessing that's why I hasn't been done is 422 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 2: because they're trying to figure out how to make all 423 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: that work. I saw this on social this morning as well. 424 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: The Commanders announced their bringing back their yellow pants for 425 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: this year. They'll be worn with the burgundy jerseys. 426 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: So it's a good look. 427 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: It's a great looka it's also the this is a 428 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: the Dan Snyder when he bought the Redskins. That's what 429 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: he did is he went burgundy over gold because when 430 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: we were young and the Redskins were dominant, it was 431 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: burgundy over white. And then they would wear white over burgundy. 432 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: The Joe Gibbs era like that's it and they were 433 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: white at home a lot to stick it to the 434 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. So it was a white jersey with a 435 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: burgundy pant. And it wasn't until I want to say 436 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: Snyder that they started. It's possible in the old days 437 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: they wore gold pants. It's great. Look it's better I 438 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: think than the burgundy pant. It's really clean. But it's 439 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: that's a snider as when he brought the team back. 440 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: I do I do wonder, like when do they rebrand 441 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: that thing and get out from under the Snyder commander's thing. 442 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of changes. I mean they've tweaked 443 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: a lot in house from a personnel standpoint in front 444 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 3: office and. 445 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: They steadfastly tony it Gibbe. Any time that you say, 446 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: like are you going to do it, they're like, oh, 447 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: it's not even on the table. 448 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: Now we were talking earlier. We think they played in 449 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: an all black UNI last year. 450 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: They did well. They also had an all maroon one. 451 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: They had a maroon over white. They had an all 452 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: maroon and then had a white over maroon and white 453 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: over white. But then they had the all black too. 454 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: They did have a maroon jersey, but it was over 455 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: white was the idea. 456 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: I don't again, what what are you calling yourselves? See? 457 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: This is I don't buy this at all. So this 458 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: was in end of May this year. The decision not 459 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: to change the name comes as a relief to many 460 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: fans who have grown attached to it. No one has, no, 461 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: one has, Harris comments put the end of rumored speculation 462 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: that had been circulating. There is absolutely nobody attached to 463 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: the commander's name. No, no one, none, no. Everybody in 464 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: the NFL hates it. 465 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure you know what maybe, uh, 466 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the apathy has settled in Washington. 467 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if they even care about their football 468 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: team currently. 469 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: Not currently. No, And it used to be one of 470 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: the beacons really in the sport in terms of the 471 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: amount of correct following that they had. It was impossible 472 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: to get season tickets. Aren't they finally demolishing RFK? I 473 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: thought they finally got the green light. 474 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: To do that. 475 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: Yes, so they're not going to put that stadium in 476 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: the Beltway, but it'll be somewhere outside of it. Where 477 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: where will they build the new stadium. I'll tell you 478 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: if I, if you had a part of that, I 479 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: would want that rebrand done. I would want nothing associated 480 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: with Daniel Snyder, and I would want that rebrand done 481 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: for the second you walk into that new stadium, if 482 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: not the year previous. 483 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: Even if you just went to like the Washington football 484 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: team again, well, I thought that was fine. 485 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did like a like they kept saying 486 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 2: like the fans wanted this, but they didn't. There was, uh, 487 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: there was. Redtails had a lot of momentum for the 488 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: World War Two squadron. The Redtails had a lot of it. 489 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: There was also red Wolves had a lot of it. 490 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: There's a lot of red Wolves. But they were worried 491 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: about I think the timberwolves thing or whatever. But like, 492 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that. That doesn't doesn't hold much water 493 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: to me. I think they liked warriors a lot, but 494 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: then in Golden State you couldn't have that. And then 495 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: the other one was the one that Z and I 496 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: was talking about is Red Hogs, Like it fits in 497 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: with what they were, the Hogs, and they have that 498 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: crazy mascot thing that they have that's Sergeant Tuddy whatever 499 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: they on his name is. Was brutal. Yeah, but like 500 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: you have, you have this connection. There is no team 501 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: in professional sports that uses a pig. The only one 502 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: in sport that does is the razorbacks. That I can 503 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: think of, like lean into that man, and that'd be 504 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: pretty cool. Like you could do that cool. You could 505 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: wear the uniform with the scriptar that Gibbs wore on 506 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: his hat. You could put that on the helmet and 507 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: just go to that look and just put the script 508 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: ar on the helmet. I feel like that solves it. 509 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why you don't do that. It seems 510 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: so easy. 511 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: We can't we They can't get out of their own way, 512 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: that's the problem. 513 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: And I just look, you just buy a team for 514 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: six billion, and you're like, all right, let's make sure 515 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: that let's not do anything rash, Like let's do the 516 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: right things because it's been driven so far into the 517 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: ground by Snyder over twenty sevens. 518 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: And I don't know, like the the Nike rules because 519 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: you have to keep a uniform, like when they made 520 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: them the Commanders. 521 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: It's four Well, we dealt with it because we had 522 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: the uniform thing and it was it's like four seasons 523 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: or something before you can go back. Yeah, that's kind 524 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: of the league's rule because they build all the merch 525 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: out and so you have to you got to get 526 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: to that point where you can we can have that 527 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: sorted out. 528 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 529 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, to me that I likes, I like. I think 530 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: they look great. I think they look great. Yeah, you 531 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: don't need a black uniform. And it's ridiculous. Correct, we 532 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: have Hurricane Barrel is at Southeast Texas. Some damage the 533 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: roof on Texans Energy Stadium, the home the storm storm 534 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: and put a hole in the roof of the stadium. 535 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: Are awaiting a full damage assessment. Texans first home game 536 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: this year's preseason on August seventeenth. It'll be fixed by then. 537 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: Are we gonna get any remnants of that? 538 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: We are? They comment later on later on Tony Oh 539 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: tonight tonight? Yeah, tomorrow, I believe. Of course, it's a 540 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: Golf League day. I only have like two left before 541 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: my summer's over. 542 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: That's it. 543 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: Oh. 544 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: I just pulled up my ACI Weather app and there's 545 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: Barrel Tracker. It's on. 546 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: Okay, so what is it telling you? Because I watched 547 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: I looked at another website and they were like, it's 548 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: gonna come later in the week to Ohio, and. 549 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: I'm like Tuesday night, Thursday morning, let me check the 550 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: hourly on this gibbe. 551 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's gonna go just west 552 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: of us, but we're gonna get some wind and we're 553 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: definitely gonna get a lot of rain. 554 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: All right, so we've got I mean, it looks like 555 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: it's right now. It looks like it's gonna start raining 556 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: at any moment. According to Aki. 557 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 3: Weather, it's supposed to be overcast most of the day and. 558 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: Then yeah, nothing too crazy, okay. Then tomorrow morning, like 559 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: three am to five am, a lot of rain, thunderstorms 560 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: eight and nine o'clock tomorrow, and then all afternoon and 561 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: you get it in course a lot. It looks like 562 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: a lot of thunderstorm and then it looks like it's wonderful. 563 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: I think we're in the clear. It's not gonna do 564 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: you any good, but I think we're gonna be in 565 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: the clear by the time you get like Thursday and Friday, 566 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: and then it's gonna be back to hot as buckets 567 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: over the weekend, all right. So that's where you're at, 568 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: ninety eight percent chance of rain tomorrow. Can I interest 569 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: you in that you're not golfing brother. 570 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 5: It's fine. 571 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: I got to get some other stuff done around here. Anyways. 572 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: It's two weeks from tomorrow I leave for Western Area, 573 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: so I got to get a few other things done. Anyways, 574 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: I was hoping just for like three hours of solitude. 575 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: Was there any Is there any fan interaction down there Greenbrier? 576 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: I don't believe so. 577 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: So like they don't not to say not to send, 578 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: like send our fans to West Virginia. It's quite the hall, 579 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: but like if there were fans, is there because I've 580 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: been there and I was trying to think, is there 581 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: any place where people could get up high enough to watch? 582 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: And there is I think right. 583 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: There are bleachers. Yeah, I don't believe anything is open 584 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: to the public. And it's interesting because you know there 585 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: the highway, the one highway is right there, right right 586 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: by it. When the team comes out to start practicing, 587 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: there are multiple West Virginia State troopers lights out, Oh 588 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: no stopping, no watching, keep going, keep cruising. Don't even 589 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: think about you know we we I know we've had 590 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: some corporate partners, yeah, some VIPs that we that we 591 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: bring in. But I don't believe any interaction. 592 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: How do you for people who have not been there, 593 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: and they ask you what it's like. How do you 594 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: attempt to make sense of that place? It's beautiful. It's 595 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: a stunning setting. 596 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, it's especially right when you pull in the 597 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: main the main road right up to the stunning you know, 598 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 3: the main the men building. 599 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: It's not just folks. It's not just that they built 600 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: a football facility there. They also built like a eight 601 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: thousand seat tennis center there, like it's like a mini 602 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: US Open tennis venue is there. They have three eighteen 603 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: old golf courses. Anybody can play. The old White is 604 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: the most will be there two weeks after US Live 605 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: is usually there. And then they have the other thing 606 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: is they have that really private course. That's that they 607 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: have there as well. 608 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: I believe he's gotten to play it. 609 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, illuminary so that you can. So you 610 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: have that, you have like the hot springs, and you 611 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: also have like a bunker, a nuclear bunker. Is there. 612 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: If the world's ending next good or two weeks. 613 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: If you want to go falconing, you can go do 614 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: that that. You can shoot guns, you can get pulled 615 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: on a carriage, you can there's a TV. 616 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: Who was the player we saw in the carriages we're golfing. 617 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: Last year, it was our off day. We got to 618 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: golf and one of the one of the guys was 619 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: literally in the back of the carriage by himself. 620 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of cool. They tell you, like everything that happened, 621 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: the history of it and where it came from. 622 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: Pool is amazing. 623 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: There's that crazy there's that beautiful church that's right in 624 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: the middle of the kind of like their oval. The 625 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: pool's great overlooks the golf courses. We were there for 626 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, three or four days. This was a 627 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: couple summers ago. Just is like we're like, we just 628 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: got to get away for a couple of days, and 629 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: we're like, I've never been, Like, let's go. So we 630 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: drove down. I just would say, like I've never been 631 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: anywhere like it. Like the decorations were that all That 632 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: door to the draper really bright, like it makes your 633 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: head explode. It's like rainbow does. It's really bright. Man 634 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: Like people think I'm like, I remember getting out of 635 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: the elevator and then West Virginia President and former Ohio 636 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: state President Gordon Gee was asleep on a bench And 637 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: I knew Gordon because he was at Ohio State when 638 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: I was doing all the coaching shows. I knew him 639 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: really well. He was just sleeping on a bench at 640 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: the bottom of the elevator, like just laned out. I'm like, 641 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: what is going on? This place is the craziest place ever. 642 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the governor owns it. 643 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffries owns it. He's the governor. He's a wealthies guy. 644 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: See the governor first day, he'll be ready. Yeah, it's wild. 645 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: It's like I tried to describe, I'll never forget. Like 646 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: I told my wife, I go, when you come down here, 647 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: like the picture I sent you, because she's like, what's 648 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: the hotel room look like? Because I heard about that? Yeah, 649 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: I go, it's not going to do it justice. Like 650 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: the bathroom is like black and white tile. Yes, the 651 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: carpet is a solid color and it's usually a pretty 652 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: bright and then the walk in closet because the closet's 653 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: crazy big. Is one design. The rest of the the 654 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: rest of the place is a whole nother design and 655 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: all different. It is every color on the color wheel 656 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: in use. If you want ice, there's no ice machine. 657 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: You have to call down brand and a bell hop 658 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: brings you a bucket of ice. Definitely needed more ice, 659 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: a lot more. 660 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: They have the bowling alleys, then they have the indoor pool. 661 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: See, I just like, I don't think we're allowed. We're 662 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: not allowed in the basement because there's a casino. 663 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: Well you can get there, We're you can. It's a 664 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: different wing. 665 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: You can get to look a look at it. 666 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: Look at his bad finally working. Look at him. 667 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: He'll be at the Green briar, of course he will. 668 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at this, like here is like 669 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: these pictures I took of the boys, like and like flower. 670 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: You can see its yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they're 671 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: all in like their suits. Uh look at the size 672 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: of the rows of NBC's head for consakes. 673 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It is an interesting, unique place. I'm 674 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: happy that I'm on the Cleveland Browns dime for it 675 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: because because it's a little it's a little pricey. 676 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. They love their history. 677 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: They do, they do. And I will say this, everybody 678 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: that works there is they're so over the time. 679 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: My god, they got the indoor tennis. I forgot about this. 680 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: They have the indoor tennis facility. Yes, yeah, that's right, 681 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: I forgot. We played payball. 682 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: They are very very nice and whatever you need, they 683 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: can get it for you and they can take care 684 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: of you. It's yeah, that is him. 685 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: I ever got best. 686 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: This. 687 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: He did get an ice cream Sunday. Yeah, that was 688 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: quite like good wings at the at the sports bar there. 689 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, good food. Yeah, the food food was was very good. 690 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 691 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: If you get a chance to go into like the 692 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: little town there, yeah, the town's got some cool little 693 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 3: bars and restaurants. You're also forty five minutes from some 694 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: of the best white water rafting in the United You're 695 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: very close to that, which I have done. And I'd 696 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: recommended the Gorge. And and isn't. 697 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: There like another resort down there, like the Omni or 698 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: something that's down there to that's like a monster resort, 699 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: like just in the middle of the of the hills. Yeah, 700 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: very cool, full place. It's a track, but it's like 701 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: it is, it's very good. And if it's raining, it's 702 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: really hard. And you because that when we drove down 703 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: there was raining and you're like you're driving through these 704 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: mountains and you're like, there is no there is no burm. 705 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: It went line at Line Mountain like there was no 706 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: if I'm like I said to my wife and I 707 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: hate it when I even say this out loud in 708 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: the car. I'm like, if we get a flat tire, 709 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: I don't even know what happens here. Do we shut 710 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: down the freeway if I get a flat tire here? 711 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Possible? 712 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: Possibly because there's no pulling off. 713 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, and like people go fast, like eighteen wheelers. 714 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: Oh it speeds that. I'm like, I don't think that's 715 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: a good idea, but okay, yeah, that's fine. Storms coming 716 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: over the mountains, Uh, we got caught one last year. 717 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: Una almost died trying to rescue a backdrop. I mean 718 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: there were there were new deck chairs. They ended up 719 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: on a hill. Yeah, that's football fields away. It comes 720 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: at you quick. 721 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: I remember that from the when it decided to rain, 722 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, it's going to rain. And you 723 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: understand how they had the flooding that they had down there, 724 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: because it like when sometimes with the way they were 725 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: explaining to me, when it comes in and gets stuck 726 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: in those valleys, it basically just gets stuck. Yeah, and 727 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: there's nowhere to blow it out, so it just buries 728 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: it in rain. Absolutely. Does did you play golf down there? 729 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: We did? We played. We only had one day off, 730 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: and I negotiated with the club pro and nice because 731 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't play at the at the price 732 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: here at that before. 733 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: But he's if I remember right, the kid, I don't 734 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: know if it was the same guy when you guys, 735 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: because we were there the year before. He was a 736 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: huge Buckeye fan, like the head pro was, and he 737 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you're good. Like he hooked it up 738 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: pretty good and then like after a certain hour they 739 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: really took care of it correct. 740 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we teed off at like three o'clock 741 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: and then you just zip. Yeah. It was one of 742 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: those where I was like, look, I'm not asking for freebie. Yeah, 743 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: but like and also like can I get a little 744 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: can I get a little discount because the three hundred 745 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: and twenty dollars for eighteen in a card is not 746 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 3: going to work for my bank? Well? 747 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: Also, like that was the old White Prices, right, yes, yeah, 748 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 2: like the other there were two other ones. They're both 749 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: really fun that are really cool. We played me and 750 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: the boys played all three when we were down there, 751 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: and there wasn't much difference between the Old White and 752 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: the other ones. They were all pretty much the same, 753 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: and the other one which was it like the sneed. Yeah, 754 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: that's the one that was like only like the people 755 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: who live there or luminaries have the ability exactly. 756 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: That's on the side of the mountain. 757 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, on the way to the West Virginia kind of 758 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: sort of you'll go buy where Joe Burrow kind of sorry, 759 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: used to be at the University of Ohio or Ohio University. 760 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: Burrow was on part of My Take. I mentioned this yesterday. 761 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: He was on part of My Take this week. You 762 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: mentioned that how he doesn't do it's interesting how he 763 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: chooses what media to do and what not to do. 764 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: This is the most I've seen him doing quite some time. 765 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: So he does them every year he does, pardon my take. 766 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 2: He did it last summer too. But like like Ben 767 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Baby and some of the other guys I've talked to 768 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: were on that beat, are like, we never get to 769 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: talk to Burrow, Like nobody gets to talk to him. 770 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: He just doesn't do it and they must not make him. 771 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: But he does go on PMT and talks about a 772 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: bunch of things, including the notion of playing for a 773 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: gold medal in flag football. He said, quote, I really 774 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: want to play for the Olympic flag football team like me, 775 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: Jamar Justin, me and my friends out there playing football. 776 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: I think it'd be really cool. I don't understand why 777 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: flag football is an Olympic sport. I mean, this is absurd. 778 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: What are we doing? Like you could have one hundred 779 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 2: and fifty teams that are American that would beat what 780 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: country would be second in flag football? And how far 781 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: distant where would the very best flag football team of 782 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: filling the blank country land in the American flag football 783 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: team hierarchy? If we had like mahomes head a team 784 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: like of all the NFL guys played. 785 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 786 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't understand flag football is Olympic sport at all. 787 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't either, But they want it. They want 788 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: it's an overall effort to grow flag. 789 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: Football, which I think is really smart. And I think 790 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: that the NFL has done a pretty good job with 791 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: flag football, and when Daryl was here, he used to 792 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 2: do a lot of that and even with a full 793 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: contact but like there is a bit of a crisis 794 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: in the sport right now where the numbers aren't what 795 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: they where they used to be in the youth level 796 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: with football now some of that's other options and some 797 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: of his parents are a little weary about sticking a 798 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: helmet on a kid at a young age. And if 799 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: there are alternatives, play flag as long as you can 800 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: just keep them in the sport, keep your best athletes 801 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: in the sport. Yeah, and don't have a stigma attached 802 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: to flag where there doesn't need to be one. So 803 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 2: that's probably the win on all of that. He also 804 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: had this to say, this is Joe Burrow talking on 805 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 2: pardon my take about Ohio State and LSU in terms 806 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: of his allegiance. 807 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: What would you say to Ohio State fans that try 808 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: to claim you. 809 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 6: I didn't play football there. I mean I practiced football there, 810 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 6: did a lot of practice. I did a lot of 811 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 6: practicing and lifting. You graduated, I graduated. I usually tell 812 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 6: people that I went to school at Ohio State and 813 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 6: I played football at LST. 814 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 4: That's good. 815 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 6: I liked I got a lot better from practicing at 816 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 6: Ohio State, but I didn't get to play, so I 817 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 6: don't really say that I played. 818 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: Here's what I would say about Joe. I don't know 819 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 2: a single Buckeye fan who's trying to claim him. I 820 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: don't know anybody who's like, hey man, we got Burrow, Like, 821 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 2: no he played at LSU, and that's been his stock 822 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: answer on that for years, which is, I went to 823 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: school at Ohio State and I played at LSU. I 824 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: think where this comes from his recruiting, and sometimes Ohio 825 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 2: State will use him as an image of like, sure, 826 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: here's a guy we developed, and that's one hundred percent true. 827 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: He was developed at Ohio State. He was there for 828 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: three years. He graduated from Ohio State. He was cultivated 829 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 2: at Ohio State, and then he went to go play 830 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: at LSU. It was it's what his Ohio State experience 831 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 2: was very much like a kid going to business school 832 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: and then you go to LSU to go work for 833 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: the finance company. Like that's what he did. He because 834 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: what he was when he got to Ohio State and 835 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: he left were two things differently Entirely, there's this misconception 836 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: that Burrow was like a five star recruit. 837 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 4: He was not. 838 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 2: If you go look at his recruit he was a 839 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: three sometimes lower four star, but high three star. But 840 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: much of that was because Ohio State offered him the 841 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: only other place it was like Ohio State and Nebraska. 842 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: And that's because his brother's played in Nebraska's dad played 843 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: at Nebraska there wasn't. He wasn't getting Alabama offers or 844 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: Georgia offers coming out of high school. He was a 845 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: kid who went to the Plains High School in Athens. 846 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: He was really good. He's a damn good basketball player too, 847 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: but he did not. He was not what he ended 848 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: up being when he got to LSU. That was developed 849 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: at Ohio State from in terms of fitness regiment when 850 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: it comes to weightlifting, diet, all of it preparedness. He 851 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: went to quarterback finishing school for three years and then 852 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 2: he went to LSU and applied his trades. 853 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: And he did it quite well. Who was so who 854 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 3: beat him out in the three years? Dwayne Haskins all 855 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: three years, no so well. For again, like his freshman 856 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: year at it's j T. 857 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: Barrett, and j T. Barrett was a two time Big 858 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Ten Player of the Year. So his freshman year it's Barrett, 859 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 2: his sophomore year it's Barrett. Then he is slightly ahead 860 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: of Haskins going into his junior year and Haskins red 861 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: shirt sophomore year, Burrow gets hurt. Haskins goes in in 862 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: the Michigan game when Barrett gets hurt and lights it 863 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: up and everyone's like, oh, here's the future, we see it. 864 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 2: So the two of them going to Spring that March 865 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: and basically play to a dead heat. But in Urban's head, 866 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: he knew that Haskins was great in the Michigan game 867 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: and he knew he could handle live action. So Urban, 868 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: to his credit, went to Burrow in March and said, 869 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: we're going to go with Haskins. I want you to stay, 870 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: but I understand that you want to play. I get it, 871 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: So anything you need will make it happen for you. 872 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: And then Joe became a free agent. So this was 873 00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: in the spring of eighteen. It was Nebraska, Cincinnati and 874 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: LSU were the three, and there were people down there saying, 875 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 2: we'll go to Cincinnati. Luke fickles there he knows you 876 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: go to Nebraska, there's familiarity, and actually Nebraska coach Scott 877 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Frost at the time said, I don't think Burrows any 878 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: better than the guy we got Adrian Martinez. A bit 879 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: of a miss there. By the way, Scott Frost is 880 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: no longer the coach at Nebraska. LSU took him and 881 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: I argued at the time, and there's audio of this, 882 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: that if you went that I would have gone to 883 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 2: LSU because you knew that they had talent. And I said, 884 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: if you win at LSU, you're a god forever, like 885 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 2: just a little like no one foresaw him win a 886 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: national title, like beat Bama once and you'll never pay 887 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: for a dinner in the state of Louisiana the rest 888 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: of your life. Yeah, And so he went there and 889 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: then and really his first year there he was just okay. 890 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: Towards the end of his first year it really took off. 891 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: And then his senior year is arguably the greatest season 892 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 2: a college quarterback has ever had. It's that one in 893 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: the Cam Newton year when Cam won the Heisman. Those 894 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 2: are the best, in my opinion, the two best single 895 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 2: seasons the quarterbacks ever had in college football. 896 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: Is one of Here's why it's not burb has ten regrets. 897 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: Is it's not because Haskins through for fifty touchdowns and 898 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: was a Heisman finalist in that year when Burrow was 899 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 2: kind of fine in his way at LSU. And the 900 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: next year they got Justin Fields, who was a Heisman finalist. 901 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 4: So like. 902 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 2: They get two Heisman finalists and two first round picks. 903 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: Burrow went to LSU kind of like everybody won. I 904 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: suppose he wins a little bigger. But it's not like 905 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: they missed on Burrow and the backup was some kid 906 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 2: who can't play. 907 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: Sure the backup was a first round pick like Scott Frost. 908 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Problem, it's not the No, they didn't do that. 909 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: It's not Scott Frost. 910 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: No, it's not it's not Scott Frost. All right, coming 911 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: up next, speaking of quarterback story in Thompson Robinson One 912 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: on one with Z, you listen to Cleveland Brons Daily 913 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 2: on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 914 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed Now 915 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 916 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 7: Oh. 917 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: Here for my friends at Jim Beam and what do 918 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: sports in Jim Beam have in common? Both are better 919 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: when enjoyed with others. So grab a bottle, gather your friends, 920 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: enjoy the game, because with Jim Beam you come as fans, 921 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: you leave his family. Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey forty percent 922 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: alcohol by volume, copyright twenty twenty four, James B. Beam 923 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: Distilling Company, Claremont, Kentucky. Drink Smart and now here is 924 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: Z one on one with our I guess third string 925 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: quarterback now Dorian Thompson Robinson. Very impressive. Let's have a listen. 926 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 8: Very happy now to be joined by Brown's second year 927 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 8: quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson, dtr First of all, great to 928 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 8: see you back on the field. 929 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: How are you feeling. 930 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 4: Oh, I feel amazing, grateful. 931 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 9: I think it is my only emotion right now, just 932 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 9: being able to get back out here on the get 933 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 9: my feedback under myself, get get confident with the guys, 934 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 9: get back around the guys, and being able to just 935 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 9: do my job again. 936 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 4: I felt amazing out there. 937 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 8: So when you reflect on last year, what do you 938 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 8: make of the season, not just for the team, but 939 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 8: for you, because in any way unbelievable roller coaster with 940 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 8: some high highs and then a seemingly unfair low with 941 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 8: the injury and the timing of all that. When you 942 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 8: kind of look back at all of that, what do 943 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 8: you take away from that season? 944 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 4: I think just a great foundation for the rest of 945 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 4: my career. Uh. 946 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 9: There was a lot of bad, a lot of good, 947 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 9: all things learning and nothing but growth ahead. So I mean, 948 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 9: I couldn't have asked for a better rookie year. Obviously, 949 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 9: being on a playoff team first year, it was definitely 950 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 9: fun and exciting, getting different guys in the building like 951 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 9: Joe and PJ, you know when Deshaun was down, and 952 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 9: getting those experiences and being able to share stories with them, 953 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 9: I think will help me in the long run too. 954 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 8: So yeah, for sure. And listen, you were a part 955 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 8: of and today mini camp practice. Jim Donovan was the 956 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 8: one who came out and did the breakdown, and you 957 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 8: will know that. What I'm probably gonna say next is 958 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 8: when he made that return against Pittsburgh. The emotion there 959 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 8: and that was the game that you led the Browns 960 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 8: at home on a game winning drive to set up 961 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 8: a Dustin Hopkins field goal to beat the Steelers in 962 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 8: Donovan's return and an insane atmosphere Like is that when 963 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 8: you look back at that, is that the thing that 964 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 8: you remember the most maybe about last season? 965 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: Just how truly special that was? 966 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 9: Uh yeah, I mean that week overall? Would it be 967 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 9: in my birthday week? Getting the call my birthday and 968 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 9: I was going to be up and being able to 969 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 9: go through that week of practice with the guys behind 970 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 9: me and everybody knowing I was going to be up 971 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 9: that week. So yeah, that was definitely one of my 972 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 9: more enjoyable moments of my rookie year for sure. 973 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 8: So I was watching the video back because I put 974 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 8: out a tweet congratulating Jim on his retirement, and I 975 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 8: picked the video of his call of the field goal 976 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 8: make to beat the Steelers. 977 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 3: You couldn't even look. 978 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 8: You were on the sideline, you were a head down, 979 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 8: couldn't look, and then they told you and you were 980 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 8: just like pure joy, right. 981 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 9: Of course, of course, just whirldwin of emotions. Again, a 982 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 9: super special moment for me, being my first win and 983 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 9: just all the work that I'll put in to get 984 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 9: there as well as where I'm getting to now and 985 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 9: trying to drive ahead. I couldn't be more proud of 986 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 9: myself as just well as my teammates. 987 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 8: So let's go to Denver for a second, because I 988 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 8: really thought you had it like it in the middle 989 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 8: of that game. It just kind of clicked for you 990 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 8: and you started going. We scored two straight possessions, and 991 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 8: obviously we know the injury comes after that you get 992 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 8: knocked out there, But did you feel that too? 993 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: Was your confidence? 994 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 8: Is that where you're kind of like, I got this, 995 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 8: And I know you had confidence from that game winning drive, 996 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 8: but it felt like in that game, something changed and 997 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 8: you were starting to make real good anticipatory throws. You 998 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 8: had that big time out on the right side that 999 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 8: I remember pretty well, Like, was that a moment where 1000 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 8: you said to yourself and as you come back and 1001 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 8: draw the inspiration kind of come back from an injury, Like, yeah, 1002 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 8: that was I was on the ascent right there. 1003 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 1004 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 9: I mean really just playing off of the Steelers game, 1005 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 9: I really felt like being on this team, you never 1006 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 9: counted out the game at what point in the game. 1007 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 9: It is, especially with this defense and the guys that 1008 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 9: we have on offense. So taking that into Denver, there 1009 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 9: was definitely more of a comfortability again, getting a whole 1010 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 9: week of practice under my belt and just being able 1011 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 9: to just continue to grow. I think that was the 1012 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 9: biggest part of it. But man, would have would have 1013 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 9: been nice to not get injured that game because we 1014 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 9: were for showing a role going towards the end of 1015 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 9: that game for sure. 1016 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 8: And then you would have gotten to go back to 1017 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 8: U c L at your facilities and play which I 1018 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 8: know had to be absolutely brutal. So maybe in the 1019 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 8: future we'll have to dial that up again when you 1020 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 8: get another shot. 1021 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 4: Of course, of course for sure. 1022 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 8: All right, so you're back here now your room, some 1023 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 8: new faces in there. In comes Jamis, in comes Huntly. 1024 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 8: What's it kind of been like in that room with 1025 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 8: the four of you? And obviously it is a very 1026 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 8: unique and special quarterback room here in the National Football League. 1027 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I mean I can't say enough about Jamis 1028 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 9: and Tyler. Everybody knows about Deshaun and how well of 1029 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 9: a person and player he is, but for those two 1030 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 9: to just come right in and make the room a 1031 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 9: very close knit group. Uh, you know, we hang out 1032 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 9: outside the buildings, We're we're talking all the time, we're communicating, 1033 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 9: we're asking each other question. There is no rookie or 1034 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 9: a veteran guy in the room. Everybody's on the same 1035 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 9: level with learning a new offense, so we're all collaborating 1036 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 9: trying to learn it all together as well as helping 1037 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 9: the rest of the offense get it downpack. So I 1038 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 9: couldn't speak enough about those two guys, for sure. 1039 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 8: Is Jamis amongst the most entertaining teammates you've ever had 1040 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 8: at any level. 1041 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, you can say that for sure, for sure. Yeah, 1042 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna say anymore. You got to meet him 1043 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 9: to figure that out. 1044 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 8: But yeah, to appreciate the full great and the fact 1045 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 8: that I don't think he has an off switch. 1046 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 3: I think it is all on all the time. 1047 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 4: No, that's that's him, That's who he is. I love 1048 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 4: him to death for it too. 1049 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 8: So all right, So this offense you mentioned, learning new offense, 1050 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 8: Ken Dorsey comes in. I talked to you before we 1051 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 8: started this and immediately like, I know you're gonna ask, yes, 1052 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 8: I love it. 1053 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: What do you love about it? 1054 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 9: I mean, you're gonna get a lot of guys with 1055 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 9: a lot more options to do different things given the quarterback, 1056 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 9: more more field to work with, and just a lot 1057 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 9: more space to attack on the defense, making him have 1058 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 9: to cover the whole fifty three and the third and 1059 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 9: not just one or two sides of the field or 1060 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 9: just to run gamer just the past game. 1061 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 4: So I think would be very balanced. 1062 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 9: I think Dorsey's gonna, you know, collaborate with Kevin as 1063 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 9: well as the rest of the offensive staffs to just 1064 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 9: put together what fits whoever's in the game at quarterback, 1065 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 9: what fits his strength. 1066 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 8: So when you come from college, right and you were 1067 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 8: in UCLA, you were in the shotgun a great deal. 1068 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 8: The Shawn's been in the shotgun his whole career. Jamis 1069 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 8: has been in the shotgun his hulker. I don't know 1070 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 8: if people realize how different it is, right going from 1071 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 8: under center back to the defense. You have a quick 1072 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 8: snap shot back to the defense turn around, then you 1073 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 8: have to make that decision as opposed to being able 1074 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 8: to be in shotgun and see what you've all done 1075 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 8: your whole lives. And there's gonna be a lot more 1076 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 8: of that, certainly in this offense. Is that something you're 1077 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 8: just all more comfortable with when you guys talk about. 1078 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 9: It, you know, I think that's what this time of 1079 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 9: the year is for getting out on the practice field 1080 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 9: with OTA's mini camp, training camp and just ironing out 1081 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 9: those reps and being able to just get comfortable, whether 1082 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 9: it's spending time on the practice field or outside of 1083 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 9: it in your own time to make sure that you're 1084 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 9: as comfortable as possible when the lights are on. 1085 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 8: So, yeah, you excited to get back to the Greenbrier. 1086 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 8: I remember I remember talking to you there, had got 1087 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 8: some reps and like you can get your time boom 1088 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 8: first one bomb touchdown on your on like your first 1089 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 8: set of downs. 1090 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, No, I'm excited. I'm excited. 1091 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 9: That's always a great time, or at least it was 1092 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 9: last year for team bonding. Uh, that's really where I 1093 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 9: got to know a lot of the guys on the team. 1094 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 9: Uh know the backgrounds, where they're from, what inspires them. 1095 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 9: So I'm definitely excited for that as well as you know, 1096 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 9: I'm not the rookie this year, so I get to 1097 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 9: see all the rookie rookie talent shows and things like 1098 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 9: that and get the boo them on and stuff like that. 1099 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm definitely excited for Green Bar. 1100 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 8: You and your budd said, obviously we've talked. We know 1101 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 8: the story there played together in high school. You guys 1102 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 8: hanging out around town, so I got to see out 1103 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 8: there and Uh for the what's like DJ James Kennedy, 1104 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 8: that's right at Ford. How you guys having fun kind 1105 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 8: of going through this together, being able to go into 1106 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 8: your second year together, trying to take that big leap together. 1107 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 9: Right, I mean, like you said, it's all about being together. 1108 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 9: Nobody feels nobody feels uncomfortable in any situation because we 1109 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 9: know we have each other's back. So I think that's 1110 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 9: that's probably the funnest part about it is that you 1111 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 9: know you can just go out there and be free 1112 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 9: because you know you have your brother behind you, and 1113 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 9: if we're both wrong, then we're both wrong together. 1114 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 8: So any plans for once we break them ani camp 1115 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 8: over the summer, I know you're going to be grinding 1116 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 8: and working, But any trips or anything like. 1117 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 9: That, Yeah, we got a couple lined up. We're going 1118 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 9: to Paris, going to Cobbo with the boys, getting some 1119 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 9: time off in June, and then you know, we're back 1120 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 9: at it down in. 1121 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 4: California for all of July. 1122 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 9: So Harris trying to make it down to Miami too, 1123 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 9: with all the quarterbacks and the receivers, get all together 1124 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 9: and have a couple of workouts. 1125 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 3: So that'll be awesome. 1126 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 8: Well, DTR, always a pleasure. Great to see you back 1127 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 8: out here. Excited for you this season again. 1128 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys. Go Browns baby. 1129 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Z and DTR. Coming up 1130 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: next to the second hour of the program, Defensive Tackle. 1131 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 2: How the NFL grades are guys and some of the 1132 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 2: best guys at the position around the league. We'll get 1133 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 2: into a little bit of the broadcasting news in the 1134 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 2: world of sports today as well in Jamari Thrash, fifth 1135 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 2: round pick receiver out of Louisville, will sit down with Gibbe. 1136 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 2: So you have that to look forward to, which is 1137 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: very very nice. You'll listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on 1138 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1139 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet now 1140 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1141 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Cleveland brown Daily a fifty ESPN 1142 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 2: Cleveland brought to you by Ballet Bets Sports spreading part 1143 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Browns now live in Ohio. All right, 1144 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 2: yesterday we did the running back position, so now we 1145 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 2: will compare defensive tackle lists. We have the PFF list 1146 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: and then we also have the ESPN list. So it's 1147 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 2: front of the program sam monson, who does the top 1148 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 2: thirty year defenders ahead of twenty twenty four. Remember there. 1149 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: The reason I find these interesting is the PFF numbers 1150 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: are completely analytical, so there is no subjective nature to 1151 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 2: any They have a grading system. They plug in the 1152 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 2: data into the grading system and that spits out the ranking. 1153 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 2: The Fouler list is talking to personnel guys in the league, 1154 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: and so it's entirely subjective. So you it's interesting. Yesterday 1155 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 2: we did the running backs and I think nine out 1156 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 2: of ten. 1157 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 3: Matched Yeah, Breece Hall was the one that didn't. He 1158 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 3: was the only one that is number two on one 1159 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 3: list and eight on another. But everything else, I think 1160 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones was the only one not in the top 1161 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 3: ten list between the two. 1162 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody else matched up and wasn't. Was Breece two 1163 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 2: on the Front Office list or on the PFF. 1164 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 3: List on the front of front office. 1165 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: So that's the subjective, Yeah, because Derrick Henry was number 1166 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 2: two ten rinking. That's right, That's right, all right, So 1167 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 2: let's try it this way. So I have the I've 1168 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 2: got the ESPN list, and do we have you have 1169 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: the PFF list. 1170 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,720 Speaker 3: I do. Now, this is unique this year, as Jeremy 1171 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 3: Foller writes, there's no Aaron Donald, who has been the 1172 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 3: consensus No. One for what five six years? 1173 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least you forget about that. Yeah, it's it's rare, 1174 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 2: just for a couple of minutes on him. It's pretty 1175 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 2: interesting that we basically had for the longest time, like 1176 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 2: you could not crack the all time NFL starting lineup, 1177 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 2: and we have with Brady and Donald. Both guys cracked 1178 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: it in the last fifteen years. Donald would absolutely be 1179 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 2: one of the starting defensive tackles and Brady's the starting 1180 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 2: quarterback on that list. Yeah, and that was a list 1181 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 2: that was pretty hard to get into, Like forever, it 1182 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 2: was me and Joe Green and it was this and 1183 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: that was it. But Donald is he cracked it. 1184 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 3: So and that's what Foller says, Aaron Donald consistently gardened 1185 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 3: more first place votes than any other player in the 1186 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 3: four years of pulling at any position since we started 1187 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 3: this exercise in twenty twenty. 1188 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 2: That's what it felt like, I mean. 1189 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 3: And he also said, let's not forget about Fletcher Cox, 1190 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: who was a former number three on the list who 1191 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 3: just retired. 1192 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that, I mean, that makes an awful lot 1193 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: of sense when you think of it in that manner. 1194 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 2: All Right, So number one on the Fowler list is 1195 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: Chris Jones, which feels pretty appropriate. 1196 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, he held out last year and it worked 1197 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 3: out quite well for him. 1198 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 2: Eighty percent of the first place votes, so he was easy. Yeah, 1199 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 2: he wants stole votes from Donald. He writes, he's down 1200 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 2: in a class by himself. Yeah, here's one of the 1201 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 2: quotes his size and consistent dominant efforts. Just so hard 1202 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: to block, he says, a mismatch because of how long 1203 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 2: and strong he is, and he can win from every spot, 1204 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 2: edge over center. B Gap led all defensive tackles with 1205 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 2: thirty five sacks over the past three years. 1206 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty four more pressures than any other interior defender 1207 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 3: over the past two seasons. Again, a guy that probably 1208 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 3: is like I could have had a couple first Team 1209 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 3: All pros. 1210 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just was pulling him up because you know, 1211 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 2: Ze and I always talk about that when you think 1212 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: about like what it does it take to be a 1213 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 1214 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1215 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 2: So he's a five time All Pro pro bowler on 1216 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: five occasun's and a three time Super Bowl champion. Yeah, 1217 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer? 1218 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 3: Is he first team All Pro? 1219 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 2: He's first team All Pro twice, third team three times. 1220 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 2: But he's three times Super Bowl champion and. 1221 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 3: Probably not a first ballot. 1222 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 2: But he's heading there though. He's he's thirty. Yeah, so 1223 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: he's at Mississippi State second round pick. Just a dude, 1224 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 2: Just a dude. Yeah, he's definitely heading there's He's All 1225 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 2: Pro every year except nineteen. He's been a Pro Bowl 1226 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 2: every year since twenty nineteen. He's an All Pro every 1227 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: year since eighteen. So yeah, he's a dude. He's a dude. 1228 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 2: He's number one with a bullet, number two on the 1229 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 2: Front office list from ESPN and Jeremy Fowler Quinnin Williams. 1230 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 3: PFF has him as number three, and they have a 1231 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence at number two, who's number three on the ESPN. 1232 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: So there you go. So they just inverted those two. 1233 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: So they go Williams Lawrence on the Front office and 1234 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: then it went the other way on the PFF list. 1235 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 2: On that one, then it goes Jeffrey Simmons out of 1236 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 2: the Titans, is four on the on the Pro Personnel list. 1237 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: Wow, number eight, okay on the Titans list. 1238 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 2: Lose my pen giving, I don't know, all right, So 1239 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: we had Simmons. 1240 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 3: Simmons recorded forty seven total pressures twenty nine defensive stops 1241 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 3: in twenty three by while marred by injury, and that 1242 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 3: campaign still featured at least one dominant outing, where he 1243 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 3: notched a pair of sacks and six QB pressures against 1244 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 3: the gutless Falcons in Week eight. 1245 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 2: The gutless Falcons, they're not gonna be gutless anymore. I 1246 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: don't know I find a new gutless. 1247 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know yet. I gotta I need to see. 1248 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 3: I need to see their non gutlessness. 1249 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna be gutless. We gotta pick 1250 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 2: one every year. Justin made Bouquet is five from Baltimore. 1251 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 2: He's fifth on the personnel list. 1252 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that cost him, you know, having to bring him 1253 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 3: back cost them some other players. 1254 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, four years, ninety eight million for Matta Buket. 1255 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 3: So these are awful a little bit. PFF has him 1256 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 3: into number eleven. 1257 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So that's the first one outside the 1258 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: top ten. Yeah, this is harder too, though, like d 1259 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: Tackle is. 1260 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's stuff. 1261 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 2: The personnel guys have Christian Wilkins out of the Raiders 1262 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: at six. 1263 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 3: Great player. Big loss for the Miami right, yeah, big 1264 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 3: loss for Miami. Where is he? Oh he's number. 1265 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: Ten, Okay, so he's still in the top ten at least. 1266 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: So right now, just Matta Buquet is outside the top 1267 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 2: ten off the personnel juxtaposed to the PFF list, all right. 1268 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 2: Heading in at number seven is Derek Brown Carolina. 1269 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 3: Brown is number four on the PFF list. 1270 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so he stays in it, and then DeForest Buckner 1271 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 2: is eight. 1272 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 3: I feel like he's been playing forever. 1273 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 2: It does. Yes, he's only thirty, he's thirty years old, 1274 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 2: but it does. You're right, it feels like he's been 1275 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: really good for an awful long ten. 1276 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 3: He's number six on the list. 1277 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 2: All right, So so far we just have one outside 1278 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,479 Speaker 2: the top ten. In terms of a mix up. Number 1279 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: nine is Kenny Clark. Where you're scrolling a long time, 1280 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: my friend. 1281 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Did I miss it? Hold on easy? Maybe I screwed 1282 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 3: that up. 1283 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark, one AFC executive, says, I don't feel he 1284 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 2: gets enough credit. Better defensive tackle than most. He has 1285 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: a lot of similarities to that real guys have at 1286 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 2: the top, size, power, athleticism, can play multiple spots. He 1287 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 2: was fifth previously on the list. That was his highest 1288 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: ever ranking. Last year he was an honorable mention on 1289 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 2: this list, and he ends up nine on Fowler's list. 1290 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't he's number twenty seven. 1291 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh on pfs, that's a big discretion. That's the biggest 1292 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 2: one we've seen by far. 1293 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, did I miss him? 1294 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1295 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: And then Javon Hargraves with San Francisco is ten on 1296 01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 2: this list. One NFL executive on Hargraves, he always had 1297 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 2: a deep rush toolbox of the good effect at the quarterback. 1298 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 2: He's a little quieter than we prepare for when he 1299 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: was in Philly, but he remains an issue as an 1300 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 2: interior rusher. 1301 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 3: Number ten Margraves joves PFF. It had Jones, Lawrence two, 1302 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 3: Quinn Williams three, Derek Brown four. They had Cam Hayward 1303 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 3: number five. 1304 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 2: So Cam is on the honorable mention on the On 1305 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 2: the ESPN list. 1306 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 3: They had Buckner sixth. Hard Grave was number seven on them. 1307 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so the only one so they should have been 1308 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 2: two that weren't on who was? Give me the top 1309 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 2: ten again for a PFF. 1310 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 3: Chris Jones was number one, ye fexter Lawrence two, Williams three, 1311 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 3: Derek Brown four, Cam Hayward five, Buckner is sixth, Hargrave 1312 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 3: is seven, Simmons is eight. One that we haven't talked about. 1313 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 3: Jalen Carter was No. Nine. 1314 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Oh, the rookie fill of Georgia. Yes, yeah, the baby 1315 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 2: rhino yep. 1316 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins was number ten. 1317 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so those are your two differences Heyward and Jalen Carter, 1318 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 2: you remember this, and I know that you do. I'm 1319 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 2: asking rhetorically. When the Eagles showed up here for the 1320 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 2: year they went to the Super Bowl, and they showed 1321 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 2: up for the team practices and their defensive line got 1322 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: off the bus and you went, oh, oh good lord. 1323 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they walked right. 1324 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: We have one of the best offensive lines in the league. 1325 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 2: We had Miles, we had all this, but they were 1326 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: on another level. 1327 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 3: Wasn't Joe Thomas with us us And we were all like, 1328 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 3: oh my god. But it changed the philosophy in this 1329 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 3: building totally because last year a lot of bigger, a 1330 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 3: lot bigger, got a lot bigger. 1331 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Just think of it from the perspective of, well, you 1332 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 2: remember that when we were I remember having all of 1333 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 2: us having that conversation. It was you and me and 1334 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 2: z and Joe, and we were talking about like if 1335 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts can go, They've got everything, like a j 1336 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 2: Brown was there, Like all those running backs, all that speed, 1337 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 2: those lines. It was like and they bullied us and then. 1338 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 3: We knew we had like one good series where like 1339 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 3: oh we can hang No no no. 1340 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no no no no. They were built different. Two 1341 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 2: years ago, and then last year kind of went the 1342 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 2: other way, right, and you were. 1343 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 3: Like, now the one, I'm going to call it a 1344 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 3: snub and I'm gonna put my brown and orange goggles on. 1345 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 3: But how's Dalvin Tomlinson not an honorable mention? 1346 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 2: He gets nothing? 1347 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 3: He was number twenty six on six on. 1348 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 2: The PFF list. I mean, they only did what they do. 1349 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 2: They did six honorable mentions the the. 1350 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 3: And he didn't make it in there did. 1351 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 2: Another one too over the horse been there. Yeah, well 1352 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: he's got a chance. 1353 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I just does he need more sack? Sure? 1354 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 3: But I mean he he helped open everything up for 1355 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 3: everybody on the ends and for our linebackers. 1356 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very, very good. Yeah, all right, we'll 1357 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: go round the broadcasting world. Coming up next to listen 1358 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 2: to Clevelan Brons Daily on a fifty ESPN. 1359 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed 1360 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and. 1361 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Attention, home owners, is your roof ready to a stand? 1362 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 2: Another harsh winner? I know it'll be here before we 1363 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 2: know it. Bite your tongue, I know, And I want 1364 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 2: to speed through anything. You know, it's just mean Meghan's 1365 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 2: doing to put that in the script. 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And 1384 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 2: then he puts out a video with him and Eli 1385 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 2: in it, and he says, it's in the game. I'm 1386 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 2: in the game and he's in. He's the most celebrated 1387 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 2: backup maybe in the history of college football quite honestly, 1388 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 2: it times up. Interestingly, though he spoke to The Athletic, 1389 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 2: he hasn't spoken really at all since he's been at Texas, 1390 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 2: and he did an interview with the Athletic about how 1391 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 2: hard it has been to sit and watch Quinn Yours, 1392 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,919 Speaker 2: who's the starter at Texas, was formerly at Ohio State. 1393 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 2: He talked about how he thinks Arch will come out 1394 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 2: in the better for this and the one thing Quinn did, 1395 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 2: which is kind of a false equivalent. Equivalently, he said, look, 1396 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 2: I know what it's like to say I had to 1397 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 2: sit at Ohio State. I'm like, dude, You're at Ohio 1398 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 2: State from like the third week of August until the 1399 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 2: middle of November, and then he was gone. 1400 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 3: The kid was vaporized. Like he was correct. He had 1401 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 3: a nice little nil deal too. 1402 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't know. Yeah, I was upwards of two million, 1403 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 2: and he didn't now that wasn't from Columbus. That was 1404 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 2: a kombucha deal that he had in Texas, which I'm 1405 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 2: getting too a little bit into weeds for our audience. 1406 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: But like he he was, he was trying. He did 1407 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 2: not want to leave South like Carol which is a 1408 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 2: powerhouse in Texas. He didn't want to leave high school. 1409 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 2: They were the number one team in the country, he 1410 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 2: was a National Player of the Year, all of those things. 1411 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 2: But in order to capitalize on his nil, he had 1412 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: to graduate early. So that's how it all got fast tracked. 1413 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 2: He basically went to Ohio State and said I'm coming. 1414 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: They're like, we'd rather you didn't. And he said, well, 1415 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm coming now or never, and they said, okay, fine, 1416 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 2: we'll take you, and they took him. But there was 1417 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 2: ever any plan for where a seventeen year old who 1418 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 2: was going to unseat c. J. Stroud as a starting 1419 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 2: quarterback at Ohio State. So meantime Arch has sat for 1420 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: two years. It will be two years. Do you know 1421 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 2: where his first game will be as a starting quarterback? 1422 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 2: If this year goes according to plan and Quinn starts 1423 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 2: every game? No idea a venue you have heard of, 1424 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 2: the Horseshoe. So next year, Texas opens in Columbus against 1425 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 2: Ohio State in what would be Arch Manning's first game. 1426 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 2: The quarterback presumptive quarterback for Ohio State on that day 1427 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 2: will be a kid named Julian Sayan, who was the 1428 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 2: number one high school quarterback prospect in the country last year. 1429 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 2: So next year first game of the year is Arch 1430 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Manning versus Julian Sayan. Texas and Ohio State both will 1431 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 2: be ranked in the top five in the country. I 1432 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 2: believe it will be the most expensive ticket in the 1433 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 2: history of Ohio Stadium. I think it's in play. It's 1434 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 2: debut if it needed is. And honestly, even if it's 1435 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 2: even if it's even if he's just playing and it's 1436 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 2: he started some game this year because yours got hurt, 1437 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 2: It's going to be a brutal ticket. 1438 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 4: Uh there. 1439 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 2: Think about the celebrities that will be there. You know, 1440 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 2: the Manning family would be there, that old group, Matthew McConaughey, which, 1441 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 2: by the way, I have you've ever been on the field. 1442 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,719 Speaker 2: When that guy's on the field, he's wound up, brother. 1443 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Really shot out of a cannon. 1444 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 2: McAfee. 1445 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 3: That's yeah, everything. 1446 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 2: Lebron will be there. Oh, Vince Vaughn. Vince Vaughn is 1447 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 2: always a he's he flips between wherever game day is 1448 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 2: of a Notre Dame guy. If it's in Columbus, then 1449 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 2: he's a buck eye guy. Really, Oh you see him 1450 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 2: in Buckeye. It just depends where he is because he's 1451 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 2: in Rudy, So like he takes any what. He's from Chicago, 1452 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,640 Speaker 2: so he's got that part of it. But like I 1453 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 2: think his dad loved the Buckeyes or something. So anytime 1454 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 2: columb anytime there's a big game press box and Columbus 1455 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 2: Vince Vaughn coming out of G Smith's box. But the 1456 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 2: kid is going to sit for two years, which is 1457 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 2: just crazy in this day and age for a guy. 1458 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 3: So here's my question. If he sits for two years, 1459 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 3: can he play one year then go pro? 1460 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Yes, he'd be three years in now. I don't think 1461 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: he's dead. I mean Peyton stayed four years at Tennessee, correct. See, 1462 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 2: he must really like college life because he hasn't transferred 1463 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 2: out of Texas. And he could have. I mean, he 1464 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 2: would have been the starting quarterback at Old Miss, he 1465 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 2: would have been the starting quarterback for Olabama. He would 1466 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 2: have the started quarterback. 1467 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 3: All of them. 1468 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 2: And he's stuck. So he loves Texas and he's staying there. 1469 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 2: But it's it's wild. 1470 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 3: I mean, what what happens if he's not the arch 1471 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 3: manning that everybody thinks. I mean, if you haven't played 1472 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 3: for two. 1473 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 2: Years, that's a great question. I don't. Well, the good 1474 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 2: news is like the family's done quite well for themselves, 1475 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:52,759 Speaker 2: so I think he'll be okay. 1476 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 3: Sure, But. 1477 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 2: Chris Kelley, he opened all those hotels all over the country. 1478 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Those I think they're called the graduate hotels. Have you 1479 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 2: heard of those? They're on college campuses and they build 1480 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 2: like the atmosphere is like a college campus, Like all 1481 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,559 Speaker 2: the rooms are very specific. There's one in Columbus. But yeah, 1482 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 2: like it's I don't know what happens. Like I'll be honest, 1483 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 2: Like it'd be hard for him not to be great. 1484 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 2: Like he's got the pedigree, he's got the tutelage. I mean, 1485 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 2: he's under Sark, his uncles. All of it, like be 1486 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 2: pretty crazy, and he wasn't great. 1487 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 3: I see sitting for one year, but now you're sitting 1488 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 3: for a second year. 1489 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody does it anymore. In the old days, it 1490 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,640 Speaker 2: was pretty common. Yeah, you never see it. You just 1491 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 2: never see it anymore. No, I don't know, but that's 1492 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 2: going to be a ticket. 1493 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize that that's next year's open. I mean, 1494 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 3: they're not good years. Ohio State's not playing little Sisters 1495 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 3: of the Poor. 1496 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 2: They're playing nobody this year. Correct, But well they got 1497 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 2: they got Oregon, Michigan, Penn State. But they're all conference games, yes, 1498 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 2: the first month for them, some joke. 1499 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah, there's plenty of good to gets for those games. 1500 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be fine. You're not doing a home and 1501 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,679 Speaker 2: home with Marshall some of the You're gonna be fine 1502 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 2: on that. Around the broadcasting world, WW is hiring ESPN 1503 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 2: play by play voice Joe Testador. He will lead a 1504 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: three man booth for the WAWE, including Corey Graves and 1505 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 2: Wade Barrett. Fifty three year old Testatur will stay at 1506 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,759 Speaker 2: ESPN and ABC as well, where he calls college football 1507 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 2: in top ranked boxing. He will sell this to beat hell. 1508 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 2: It feels like a total natural for him. And also 1509 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 2: I can't help but wonder what if because remember he 1510 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 2: was the voice of Monday Night Football, and he was 1511 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 2: the problem I think he had with Monday Night Football 1512 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 2: is he called Monday Night football the way he used 1513 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 2: to call those Saturday night SEC games. And those Saturday 1514 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 2: night SEC games were nuts. The environment is infectious and 1515 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 2: you there's an energy that comes with it. And it 1516 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,719 Speaker 2: was him and Witten and Booger McFarland on the Ridiculous. 1517 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 3: They surrounded him with nothing, nothing, nothing. 1518 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 2: No, And he's really good. He's really good at college football. 1519 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 3: He's joined us a couple of times. 1520 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has. Yeah, because we were on Monday Night football. 1521 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 2: I remember him joining us. We talked about pizza because 1522 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 2: there was a pizza joint in Connecticut his family owned, 1523 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 2: so forth. But no, he's really good at college football 1524 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: and that's really really what it's all about. But it 1525 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 2: seems to me that would fit to me with him 1526 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:20,919 Speaker 2: being with WWE. 1527 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I feel like that that's a home run for him. Yes, yeah, 1528 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 3: he'll sell that he needs to stay in college football. Yes, 1529 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,759 Speaker 3: and and do WWE. I've not heard him do boxing, 1530 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 3: but I'm sure it's pretty good too. 1531 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 2: So WWE moves to Netflix. 1532 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of rumors like he's going to do 1533 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,640 Speaker 3: like he's going to do SmackDown? 1534 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 2: Is that for the Friday Yes, which I was just 1535 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,560 Speaker 2: going to say, I would think think it would be 1536 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 2: more realistic for him to do Monday. 1537 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's McAfee and Michael. 1538 01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 2: Cole, right, but like just from a well, yeah, I 1539 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 2: don't know how that was. I don't know how he 1540 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 2: could do it. I don't know how you could do 1541 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 2: because those are live shows, right, those Friday night shows. 1542 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know how you could ever do a 1543 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Friday night a Friday night show SmackDown and then get somewhere. 1544 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 2: I guess you could if w W or ESPN is 1545 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 2: willing to do the Herb Street and fly at Private, 1546 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 2: then you could get anywhere. 1547 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 3: And then you do the game Saturday night. Yeah, but 1548 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that the Herbie Fowler game on Saturday? 1549 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 3: That's the ABC game. He does the ESPN game. So 1550 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 3: Herbie Fowler will have the primetime or I mean they 1551 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 3: may not always have primetime. They may have because now 1552 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 3: they have the entire SEC package. So I think Herbie 1553 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 3: and Fowler will have the SEC game of the week 1554 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 3: every week. That's going to be their game Gotcha and 1555 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,759 Speaker 3: then the rest. 1556 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 2: But the thing is, like on some of these weekends, 1557 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 2: the SEC played the hits man, like Georgia is playing Texas, 1558 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Alabama is playing Oklahoma. I'm going to read you just 1559 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 2: for the humor me for just a second. Absolutely, the 1560 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 2: Florida Gators football schedule, okay. 1561 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so in otherwise, they're doing what the Big Ten 1562 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 3: should have. 1563 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 2: Been, the opposite of what the Big Ten is. 1564 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1565 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 2: So this is the Florida football schedule this year. Okay. 1566 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 2: So Florida opens against the Miami Hurricanes, so we're going 1567 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 2: to be ranked probably in the top fifteen. Then they 1568 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 2: get Samford, Okay, that's a bye, then Texas, A and 1569 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 2: M the Mississippi State, then UCF, who's now in the 1570 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Big twelve, then Tennessee, then Kentucky. Now this is Florida's 1571 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 2: November schedule, Okay, Georgia, Texas, LSU, Ole, miss Florida State. 1572 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 3: They could go on in five. 1573 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you somethbody, I've never seen a 1574 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 2: November slate like that ever, not even with that Big 1575 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 2: ten five like Haymakers, Georgia right now is going to 1576 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 2: be first or second to start the season, Texas is 1577 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 2: going to be third or fourth to start the season, 1578 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 2: LSU is going to be top fifteen. Ole, Miss is 1579 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 2: like seventh or eighth to start the season. Florida State's 1580 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 2: top fifteen. They play five teams in the preseason pool. 1581 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: Who I think will be ranked in the top fifteen, 1582 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 2: including teams one and three or four in November. Who's 1583 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 2: all MISSUS coach Lane Kiffin. 1584 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,679 Speaker 3: That's That's what I was like. I thought that was Kiffin. 1585 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 2: By the way, that's coming out of Tennessee and Kentucky 1586 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 2: and A and M. 1587 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 3: And miss Kentucky. Kentucky's now they're unreputable. 1588 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 2: That's just But they played all the hits. So there's 1589 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 2: some weekends where like Herbie and Fowler will be at 1590 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 2: like on some of these Florida games where like Herbie 1591 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 2: and Fowler might be I don't know what November two 1592 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 2: looks like, but let's just say that that's Alabama Oklahoma 1593 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 2: on November two. Well, that same day is Florida Georgia 1594 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 2: the Cocktail Party. So Tess could get that game or 1595 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 2: he could get the other one. 1596 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 3: He's going to get good games. 1597 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 2: They're gonna get really good games because the SEC, as 1598 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,719 Speaker 2: I mentioned, they played all of the hits. Some Olympic 1599 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 2: news for you, Team USA's basketball roster is unveiled. Isn't 1600 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 2: it amazing to me too? It's amazing to me that 1601 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 2: we Lebron's than in our life for twenty years. So 1602 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 2: he was voted most Outstanding Player of the team USA Camp. 1603 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 2: He's forty, yeah, almost forty years old, and he's still 1604 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 2: doing it. They put a video up of him. All 1605 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 2: the offense was running through him still like he's still 1606 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 2: the alpha at this age. I am crazy. 1607 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Okay. The good news is I sidebarred totally and I 1608 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 3: was looking at week ten. Oh, okay, November second, go ahead, SEC, 1609 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,559 Speaker 3: give it to me, Ole, Miss Arkansas Okay, Vanderbilt, Auburn okay, 1610 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 3: Texas A and m South Carolina okay, Kentucky, Tennessee okay, 1611 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 3: Maine Oklahoma. That's the University of Maine. 1612 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 2: Oh, they must have Alabama either before or after it. 1613 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, UMass, Mississippi State, and Florida Georgia. 1614 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 2: So Florida Georgia will be that's the key then, yep, 1615 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 2: that's the big one. Yeah yeah, Well do you have 1616 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,639 Speaker 2: it up? What do you got for November? The weekend 1617 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,720 Speaker 2: of November ninth. 1618 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 3: In the SEC? Yeah, LSU, Alabama, Okay, Georgia, Ole, miss Missouri, Oklahoma, Yeah, Tennessee, 1619 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:11,560 Speaker 3: Mississippi State, Florida, Texas, South Carolina bandy Okay. 1620 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 2: So that's the one where you have a headliner monster, 1621 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 2: so they've already set. For example, they've already set. They 1622 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 2: already have the times on their games, so like they 1623 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 2: already have Texas Florida being a noon game in Austin, 1624 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,679 Speaker 2: so it's eleven am local, but that game's already locked. 1625 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 3: In our bye week. God might go see an SEC 1626 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 3: game offense pick one. 1627 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 2: They're all good. Yeah, yeah, they're all very very good. 1628 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 3: I mean even yeah, it's just one hit after another. Okay, 1629 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 3: you were talking about USA, but. 1630 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 2: We did the Lebron thing and then the fact that 1631 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,679 Speaker 2: he's still the alpha on this team all these years later. 1632 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like this team as it's constructed. 1633 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 2: What's your issue? Old, Yeah, I think they're probably what 1634 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 2: my guess is they're trying to do is they don't 1635 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 2: want What was the year that George carl was the 1636 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 2: coach and we sent like Darren Williams and those guys. 1637 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,679 Speaker 2: They got buried. They lost like three times sure, twice 1638 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 2: in qualifying and they didn't even meddle. I don't think 1639 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 2: in the damn thing. I think what they're trying to 1640 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 2: do is say, hey, Lebron, Steph Durant, you go and 1641 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 2: show Anthony Edwards how to behave. Yeah, you go show 1642 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 2: him so that the next time he's an Olympian, we 1643 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 2: never have this again. That's my hunch what it's about. 1644 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Kawhi Tatum, Lebron, Drew Holliday, Halliburton, Embiid. Like, 1645 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 3: the problem is some of these guys can't stay healthy 1646 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 3: during a regular NBA season. Yeah, Anthony Davis, Yeah, Devin Booker. 1647 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Out of bio bio. Yeah. I think it's probably a 1648 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 2: bunch of old heads showing young kids how to behave 1649 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 2: and then they can turn the page on it. And 1650 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 2: where are they Paris this year? That's part of it. 1651 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to hang out in Parisford two for a 1652 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,559 Speaker 2: couple of weeks on there. They're not staying at the 1653 01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 2: They're not staying in any tent. 1654 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 3: He's staying on a luxury yacht on the setin Like 1655 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 3: remember the one year like stayed on like, well. 1656 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,679 Speaker 2: Wasn't it It was in the Barcelona Olympics. They stayed 1657 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:15,400 Speaker 2: in Monta Carlo. Yeah, okay, yeah, remember Jordan with the 1658 01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 2: gambling in Montic car Park trying to cover that up? 1659 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 4: What a mess. 1660 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 2: The USA Select team, who's scrimmage in the Olympic team 1661 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 2: is made up of all NBA players except for seventeen 1662 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 2: year old Duke Commit Cooper Flag. So this kid, this 1663 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 2: is the this is the next kid? Is this kid? 1664 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: He is a he's from Maine, correct, and he's graduated 1665 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 2: a yearly to go to Duke Like. 1666 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 3: He'll be a one and done. 1667 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna I mean the people already tanking for him, 1668 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 2: Like the Chicago's tanking for him. Brock, you watch a lot, 1669 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 2: You're you're a hooper. You play a little bit of 1670 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 2: the hoop. So you think the kid, does he check 1671 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 2: all the boxes necessary? Give me an NBA comp? 1672 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 10: Yeah, I honestly, Katie. Katie would be my NBA comp. 1673 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 10: You can stretch the floor. Shoot, he's long, He's probably 1674 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 10: gonna be a better than black shots. And he's almost 1675 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 10: like seven feet tall, right, he's tall, Yeah, sixty and 1676 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 10: I'd say a little short. I'd say like six eight 1677 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 10: six nine. 1678 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, So he's not seven. 1679 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 3: Shire you better do something with him. 1680 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 2: And he's and he graduated high school early. Did he 1681 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 2: go to like Mona Verde or something. I think it 1682 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: was one of those I'm verd Yeah, yeah, or mont bird. Yeah, 1683 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 2: so he wasn't in, he wasn't going to he didn't 1684 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,600 Speaker 2: stay in nice gift. He managine, can you imagine like 1685 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,160 Speaker 2: this kid being developed in Maine going to the great 1686 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 2: about that? Like this this kid just comes from Maine 1687 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 2: and is the best. And he's been like like my 1688 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 2: kids know about him, Like my twelve year old's been 1689 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 2: talking about this kid. Oh dude, you got to see 1690 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 2: you on on this on snap is on this. Look 1691 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 2: at this video of him, Like why am I? Why 1692 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 2: do I care about a fifteen year old kid from Maine? 1693 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 2: You're about to now, I'm we're about to ye. And 1694 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 2: there's two in a row, right because it's Boozer's kid 1695 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 2: who's really good in twenty twenty six, yes, yeah, and 1696 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 2: then the Darren Peterson kid is legit the kid from 1697 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Akron you've talked about, Dude, he's the best. Again, I 1698 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 2: didn't see Lebron in person playing high school. He's the 1699 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 2: best high school basketball player I've ever seen in person 1700 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,759 Speaker 2: as the Peterson kid. So he went to Huntington Prep 1701 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 2: last year. I'm not sure if he's going back there 1702 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 2: this year or not, do you know, I'm not sure, 1703 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 2: but he's like the number three player in this class. 1704 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 2: So it's like flag and then he's he's actually he's 1705 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 2: he's the same age as Boozer. He's twenty six is 1706 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,759 Speaker 2: when he will go. But yeah, there's there's some incredible talent. 1707 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 2: Ohio's got some incredible Terry Easter kid can go, the 1708 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:33,879 Speaker 2: kid from Toledo, the crumble kid from up here. Johnson, 1709 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 2: Michi's cousin is really really good. He's committed Ohio State. Yeah, 1710 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 2: there's a there is a ton of talent on that 1711 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 2: side of things, all right, Z one on one with 1712 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 2: Jamari Thrash coming up next. List to Cleveland Browns Daily 1713 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPN. 1714 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed 1715 01:21:51,479 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1716 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,679 Speaker 2: Hey brown says, every one of go to New Orleans 1717 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 2: for a Browns game. True Frian Travel Official Fan Experience 1718 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 2: partner Your Cleveland Browns host some premium trip travel packages 1719 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 2: for Browns fans. Oh yeah, I'll get them and meet 1720 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 2: and hang out with our good buddy Kevin Mack. Is 1721 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 2: it truefantravel dot Com and oserve your Ultimate Browns Package 1722 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,600 Speaker 2: two day and now is this this is a crossover 1723 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 2: a BP A C I like a little a BP 1724 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 2: A CBD crossover. So here's Gibbe with Jamari Thrash, our 1725 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 2: fifth round pick out of Louisville. 1726 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 3: Then happy to be joined by our fifth round pick 1727 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 3: Jamari Thrash from Louisville by way of Georgia State. I 1728 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 3: want to give a lot of credit to Georgia State 1729 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 3: because I feel like they they got you to that 1730 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 3: next level. So when you got to Louisville, you were 1731 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,959 Speaker 3: able to showcase everything in a Power five type conference. 1732 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's start there and your journey through from 1733 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 3: Georgia You had a number of offers for colleges. Why 1734 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:54,719 Speaker 3: Georgia State. 1735 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 7: George State always just kept in touch with me. To 1736 01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 7: be honest, they were they had I had to bease 1737 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 7: releaship with them. They came to my school every Friday, 1738 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 7: they never missed a game. They even came to my 1739 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 7: basketball games. And they was right up the road. It 1740 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 7: was an hour away. So I just feel like I 1741 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 7: just had a great relationship with the coaches there. 1742 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 3: So at Georgia State, you have a good relationship. You 1743 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 3: go there. What were your goals going into going into college. 1744 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 7: My goal is going into college really just go out 1745 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 7: and just be myself. When I got there, you know, 1746 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 7: my first year I played probably like two or three games, 1747 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 7: but I already asserted. So after that, you know, I 1748 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,719 Speaker 7: just wanted to take time, you know, build my body, 1749 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 7: learn more, and just study the game. 1750 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 3: So you had a did you have a chance to 1751 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 3: go leave earlier or did you wait until after or 1752 01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 3: four years at Georgia State. 1753 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:38,759 Speaker 5: Getting the portal? 1754 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I nah, nah, okay, No, Actually the 1755 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 7: year that I blew up, well, the year that my 1756 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 7: basic year I had there, I actually had the two 1757 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 7: guys that were hitting me all those following years, they 1758 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 7: actually left. 1759 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 5: So that's what kind of led me to stay. Gotcha, gotcha. 1760 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,759 Speaker 3: So at Georgia State, a memorable moment that stands out. 1761 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,960 Speaker 7: To you probably when we beat Tennessee. I was a freshman, 1762 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 7: so I didn't I didn't play that game, but just 1763 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 7: being there, being on the sideline, being on in the 1764 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 7: sideline and it just got loud like the probably the 1765 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 7: last game I played it was probably Auburn when they 1766 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 7: bought the kick and then I swear to that I 1767 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 7: felt the ground shape. I ain't never feel I ain't 1768 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,759 Speaker 7: never been in the stateium that loud. Auburn got loud. 1769 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 7: But that was probably my my biggest, my best memory. 1770 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 7: Probably we played Tennessee and we beat them. 1771 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 3: All Right, So you have you have a very good career. 1772 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 3: Number one, you were a great high school player. Uh, 1773 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 3: you go on to Georgia State, you have a lot 1774 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 3: of success, transfer portal. After four years, you end up 1775 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 3: in Louisville. What made you decide on Louisville. 1776 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 7: Well, to be honest with you, I got in the 1777 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 7: portal kind of late because I was gonna stay. I 1778 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 7: was gonna stay at Georgia State. But I talked to 1779 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 7: my parents and you know, they just felt like that 1780 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 7: was the right decision for me to make. So when 1781 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 7: I got into portal, I got a portal on the Thursday, 1782 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,360 Speaker 7: and it closed on a Sunday, so I had a 1783 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 7: short window to you know, choose my school. So once 1784 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 7: I got into portal on their Thursday, I went to work. 1785 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 7: I went I had a job, So I was going 1786 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 7: to work. My phone was blowing up, blowing up, blowing up, 1787 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 7: blowing up. So I just had to take time out 1788 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 7: of my job and go answer the phone call, talk 1789 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 7: to different coaches. But so I went to Auburn first. 1790 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 7: I went to an Auburn was the only like an 1791 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 7: hour away from my hometown. I was Auburn fan. I 1792 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 7: went to Auron things didn't really go right with the academics, 1793 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 7: so I went to Louisville on that Friday, went to 1794 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 7: Louver on that Friday and stayed all the way until Sunday. 1795 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 7: And so when I went to Louisville, went to a 1796 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,080 Speaker 7: basketball game with Coach Brown, and the fans were coming 1797 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,720 Speaker 7: up to Brown tell them how excited they were about 1798 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 7: him coming back. And over time, I'm learning, I'm learning 1799 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 7: a lot, I'm picking up information. So I didn't know 1800 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 7: coach Brown was from Louisville. I didn't know he played there. 1801 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 7: I didn't know his brother played there. Like he got 1802 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 7: real history there, like. 1803 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 5: Him and his family. 1804 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 7: So just over time I started hearing stuff and started 1805 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 7: picking up on a lot of stuff, and he just 1806 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,720 Speaker 7: felt like it just felt right. And just seeing what 1807 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,600 Speaker 7: he did for Charlie Jones the year before, and know 1808 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 7: when I played the same position as Charlie Jones, you know, 1809 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 7: it just made a lot of sense for me to 1810 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 7: go there. 1811 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 3: What was the best part of Louisville, not necessarily affiliated 1812 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 3: with football. 1813 01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 7: Probably the community when I got there, And that's another 1814 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 7: thing that made me go there as well. You remind 1815 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 7: me of my hometown a lot, So when I got there, 1816 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,640 Speaker 7: I was just able to fit in with the community, 1817 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 7: fan base and just everybody there. 1818 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, probably the community. 1819 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So you work your way through, you go to Louisville. Uh, 1820 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 3: you have a lot of success and also having a 1821 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 3: lot of success while dealing with a hand injury. How 1822 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 3: tough was that mentally physically and how do you think 1823 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 3: that made you a better football player at the end 1824 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 3: of the day. 1825 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 7: So I never missed the game ever in my life. 1826 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,679 Speaker 7: I never until I broke my hand, and I still played. 1827 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 7: I came back the following week and play, and I 1828 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 7: think the week after that I skipped the game. But 1829 01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,320 Speaker 7: once I broke my hand, you know, it taught me 1830 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 7: a lot about you know, adversity, adversity and mentally and 1831 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 7: not only mentally, but only and physically. So you know, 1832 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 7: I'm practicing, I got this big thick pad in my 1833 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 7: glove and trying to catch, but I can't catch the ball, 1834 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,679 Speaker 7: so and im and nobody's nobody's hard on me. Nobody's 1835 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,080 Speaker 7: hard on me than myself. So if I drop a ball, 1836 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,600 Speaker 7: you know, hard on myself. But I also had to 1837 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 7: take the time. I had to tell myself, like many 1838 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,719 Speaker 7: just had surgery yesterday, like I had surgery, had emergency 1839 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 7: surgery Sunday, came back to practice on like Tuesday. I'm 1840 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 7: still trying to catch on, Like all right, you gotta realize, 1841 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,280 Speaker 7: like you just you fresh out of surgery, like everything 1842 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 7: on click soon. You just gotta be patient. So that's 1843 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 7: something that I just really just was on my in 1844 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 7: my head about. But over time I started I was 1845 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,800 Speaker 7: able to catch the ball. Swelling had started going out 1846 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 7: a little bit, so over time I was slow to 1847 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 7: getting back to myself. 1848 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you were leading, You were on the 1849 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 3: leading receivers, if not the leading receiver on that football team. 1850 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 3: When when you got hurt. Is there a moment that 1851 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 3: stands out to you from your time at Louisville on 1852 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:31,759 Speaker 3: the football field. 1853 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 7: Definitely when we beat Notre Dame, we beat Notre Dame 1854 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,599 Speaker 7: crowdstor on the field, and that was something that I'm 1855 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 7: not used to, so I wouldn't use it. That and 1856 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 7: then just taking picture with fans, you know, when I 1857 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 7: went to Little I actually got treated like like I 1858 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 7: was one of those guys, so I could go to 1859 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 7: the grocery store people know who I am. So that 1860 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 7: was kind of just when I had to make when 1861 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 7: I went to Louisville. But it's all love, okay. 1862 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 3: Jamari Thrash joints of a wide receiver, fifth ront pick 1863 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 3: out of Louisville and Georgia State and happy to have 1864 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 3: him here on the cross Country More campus. You go 1865 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 3: to the Senior Bowl after your college days are done, 1866 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,679 Speaker 3: Kelly Brownson, wide receiver coach, but on the other team. 1867 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 3: But someone saw something in you at the Senior Bowl. 1868 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 3: And this Browns regime has done a great job year 1869 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 3: in and year out of finding talent at the Senior 1870 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,840 Speaker 3: Bowl every year to draft, whether it's on day two, 1871 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 3: whether it's on day three. What was that experience like 1872 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 3: and did you get a feel that the Browns at 1873 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 3: that point might be interested in you during the Senior Bowl? 1874 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 7: Nah, The experience I had at the Singer Bowl was 1875 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 7: a great experience. First and foremost just being in the 1876 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,800 Speaker 7: same room with that I was in the room Lad 1877 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 7: xavierly get just being in the same room with those 1878 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 7: guys and seeing you know, what cebarates done from everybody else, 1879 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,640 Speaker 7: and seeing what cebarates me from those guys, and just 1880 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 7: being in a competition with the competitiveness in that room. 1881 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 7: It just brought a lot out of me. So and 1882 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 7: just seeing that when I actually went to the senior 1883 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 7: bable was like, okay, like I'm actually here, Like I'm 1884 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 7: actually like that might be good at football. Like, so 1885 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,640 Speaker 7: I think you were pretty good before that, So when 1886 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 7: I got there, that kind of solidified me. I feel 1887 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,400 Speaker 7: like that kind of solidified me as you know, I'm 1888 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,640 Speaker 7: actually pretty good at football. So just being in the 1889 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,519 Speaker 7: same room with those guys and just learning different things 1890 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,639 Speaker 7: from them and different things because I think coach Brown 1891 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 7: Coach Brown was our head coach from New England. 1892 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 5: He was he was our head coach. 1893 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 3: So just being pretty good coach to learn from too. 1894 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 7: So just learn different schemes and being able to show 1895 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 7: my versatility. 1896 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,479 Speaker 5: It helped me a lot throughout this process. 1897 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,719 Speaker 3: All right, So when was your first interaction with the Browns? 1898 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 7: Uh? Probably the combine? Okay, all right, did you meet 1899 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 7: with them in the in the booth? What was that 1900 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 7: interview process? What was that whole interview? Like those are 1901 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 7: pretty intense sessions. 1902 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wanted to I was just being myself. Coach. 1903 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 7: Coach oh actually did my interview. He actually drove a 1904 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,000 Speaker 7: couple of plays, had me speak a lot of football speak, 1905 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 7: a lot of football knowledge back to him, and so 1906 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 7: he wanted to see how fast I retained a lot 1907 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,599 Speaker 7: of information. So I just wanted there with just being 1908 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 7: myself and just was able to talk ball with coach And. 1909 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 3: That translates into key Mini Camp weekend obviously. Yeah, and you, well, 1910 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 3: I'll ask you real quick about the draft in just 1911 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 3: a moment. But I watched something from dan Orlovski from 1912 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 3: ESPN and he pulls out his Rookie Mini Camp playbook 1913 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,120 Speaker 3: or you know the playbook that they were giving. It 1914 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 3: was Kyle Shanahan's from the Houston Texans in like two 1915 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 3: thousand and seven, and he's like, you know the amount 1916 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 3: of things that get thrown at you Rookie Mini Camp weekend, 1917 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,680 Speaker 3: because it's all designed to see how much you can 1918 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,680 Speaker 3: retain and how quickly you can retain it and take 1919 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,599 Speaker 3: it to the football field. Have you noticed that here 1920 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 3: in your first couple of days. 1921 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, sir, Right well, right now, they got me 1922 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 7: planning they got me doing a lot of moving around. 1923 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,720 Speaker 7: Coach Coach Osea showed me he's talking about doing a 1924 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 7: pretty good job of retaining a lot of information and 1925 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,000 Speaker 7: handling it. So yeah, I think I'm doing a pretty 1926 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 7: good job of it so far. 1927 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 3: Good glad to hear it. The draft call, where were you? 1928 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 3: What was going on in your house? And what was 1929 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 3: it like? 1930 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:53,559 Speaker 5: Uh? 1931 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,719 Speaker 7: We I mean I was just sitting there waiting, waiting, 1932 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 7: waiting on my phone call. I thought I was going 1933 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 7: to get picked early. So the first round, they took 1934 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,040 Speaker 7: seven receivers in the first round. So I'm like, okay, 1935 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 7: I can possibly go third. I wasn't things that I 1936 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 7: was thinking third. I didn't get picked third, and so 1937 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 7: now I was in Atlanta two. But a matter of fact, 1938 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 7: I was in Atlanta, family friends around. So We're just 1939 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 7: sitting there waiting, waiting, waiting, and it's so crazy. I 1940 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,640 Speaker 7: was showing my brother because my agent came to me 1941 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 7: was like, all right, look like these next five teams 1942 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 7: they could possibly grab a receiver. He was and my 1943 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 7: name was on the board next. Well, I was like 1944 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 7: on the east on the NFL network. 1945 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 5: I was like one of. 1946 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 7: The best available receivers. So he was like, it was 1947 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,040 Speaker 7: New England was on the board. 1948 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 5: It was Cleveland. 1949 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 7: They like the Panthers, Dallas and somebody else. I'm actually 1950 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,639 Speaker 7: showing my brother. I'm showing my brother like the list. 1951 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, I can get picked up by 1952 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 7: one of these teams. When as soon as I showed 1953 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 7: them Cleveland, I had a it was something Ohio something 1954 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 7: Ohio number. 1955 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,839 Speaker 5: I answered. I'm like, hello, like, hey, this is Cleveland 1956 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,840 Speaker 5: Browns in the FaceTime Like cool. So I go get up. 1957 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 7: I go upstre I'm trying to grab my grab my hat, 1958 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,680 Speaker 7: trying to grab my hand. I'm talking to talking to 1959 01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 7: mister Barry on the phone. He's like, yeah, man, we're 1960 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 7: gonna select you with the in the fifth round. So 1961 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 7: I'm looking for my hand and grab my hat. So 1962 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,160 Speaker 7: I tell the people like yeah, Cleveland. So now we're 1963 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 7: just waiting on the probably on TV. 1964 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,559 Speaker 3: It's weird though before it happens, so it's like you're 1965 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 3: already excited, but you got to kind of hide the 1966 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 3: excitement a little bit. But that moment, I'm sure when 1967 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 3: it comes up on the TV for you and your family, 1968 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 3: something you're never going to forget. 1969 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's it's super surreal because like me, I'm 1970 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 7: a time I'm a real laid that kind of guy, 1971 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,240 Speaker 7: Like I don't really show a lot of emotions. So 1972 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 7: you know, once I got my name called, it didn't 1973 01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,800 Speaker 7: really hit me yet. It didn't really hit me until 1974 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,400 Speaker 7: I got up here that I'm actually in the NFL. 1975 01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 7: So yeah, so really I do really just trying to 1976 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 7: take everything to day at a time. 1977 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:35,160 Speaker 3: What are your goals? 1978 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 7: Uh? 1979 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 3: As you get ready here, yeah, I mean there's a 1980 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 3: lot being thrown at yours rookie mini camp. Then they're 1981 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 3: going to go into the off season program and join 1982 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,400 Speaker 3: the Vets and that all leads into mandatory mini camp. 1983 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 3: What's your goal? What do you want to you know, 1984 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 3: really work on and hone before training camp at the 1985 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,840 Speaker 3: end of July. 1986 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 7: Probably, you know, just get a lot of faster, get faster, stronger. 1987 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 7: I want to be able to uh. I don't want 1988 01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 7: to say yeah, I want to be able to master 1989 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,479 Speaker 7: the playbook. I want to be a mess the playboo 1990 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,000 Speaker 7: because they're thrown a light at me right now, but 1991 01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 7: there's nothing I can't handle. So whenever I come like, 1992 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:05,200 Speaker 7: I just want to be able to be on my 1993 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:05,880 Speaker 7: p's and q's. 1994 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,759 Speaker 3: I know you got places to be. I get meetings 1995 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,559 Speaker 3: and some more practices here before things are all said 1996 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 3: and done. Welcome to Cleveland. We're excited to have you. 1997 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,599 Speaker 3: I will tell you I was going back through history 1998 01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 3: Antonio Brown, sixth round pick, Tyreek Hill, Stefon Diggs, fifth 1999 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 3: round picks like make a name. It starts on special 2000 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 3: teams and goes from there. I know you were Gunner 2001 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,280 Speaker 3: in college, but I wish you all the best of luck. 2002 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,519 Speaker 3: Enjoy Bubba vent Trope because he's a wild and crazy guy, 2003 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:37,560 Speaker 3: but he's awesome. Uh and Ken Dorsey and Kevin Stefanski 2004 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 3: and coach O'Shea are really going to take your places. 2005 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 3: Wish you all the best of luck. 2006 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Success All right, there you go. And you know we 2007 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 2: were talking, you and I were talking in the break 2008 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,800 Speaker 2: gabay about how you know, in the old days, with 2009 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,640 Speaker 2: this roster, a guy like this fifth round pick, you go, hey, 2010 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,400 Speaker 2: maybe this guy could come in and play. Maybe it'd 2011 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 2: be someone who could sneak in and start. 2012 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:55,720 Speaker 4: If you landed one. 2013 01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,720 Speaker 2: He's just gonna have to work like hell to make 2014 01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 2: the team. And that's what most of the guys we drive. 2015 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to work like hell to make the 2016 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 2: team because the roster is as good as it is. 2017 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good problem to have, it is, Yes, 2018 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,559 Speaker 3: it is. I don't know what we'll figure out. What 2019 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,600 Speaker 3: the heck's gonna happen. It's not the most interesting storylines 2020 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 3: in August. They're gonna be a little rough. 2021 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 2: No, they just they just are what they've been and 2022 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,920 Speaker 2: this is the product of having a good team. Yeah, 2023 01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 2: is there's It's just a couple of questions here or there. 2024 01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 3: And get us to Week one in Dallas against Dallas. 2025 01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 4: That's it. 2026 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to talk to coach about making sure 2027 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 2: we were white and home that game. Make them wear blue, 2028 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,240 Speaker 2: Philly guy, I would think he would know that. Next 2029 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 2: levels up next, We're back tomorrow. 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