WEBVTT - #551 Packers Unscripted: 4-for-4 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:14.720 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted social 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.160 distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.440 joined as always by my partner and crime Wes Hodkowitz 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.960 and West. The Packers have reached their bye week, and 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.080 like a really good clean up hitter in baseball, there 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.520 four for four, Green Bay is four and oh after 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.680 four games and in sole possession of first place in 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:41.160 the NFC North one quarter of the way through the season. Yeah, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:42.760 it's funny, Mike, if you go back and look at 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.280 how this has sort of played out for the Packers. Certainly, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.559 there's been some injuries that they've had to weather and 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.440 unfortunately a few guys that they've lost for the extended 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.559 run here. But other than that, not much else has 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.120 gone wrong for the Packers during this four games start 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.280 to this season. I mean, offensively, right now, one of 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.600 the most pro left picking potent offenses in the National 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.319 Football League. Certainly, you look at this game. I I 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.920 outlined this on a tweet I had on Monday night. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.520 You had Davante Adams week one, then it was Aaron Jones, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.919 then it was Alan Lazard and then lo and behold 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.480 week four. It turns out to be Robert Toanyan three 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.080 touchdown catches, only the third time that that's happened since 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.840 with the Packers tight end in a single game. It's 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.360 just been one thing after another. But at the core 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.520 of this, I'll put it out there, Mike, I mean, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.839 it's been some exceptional game calling, play calling, in game 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.319 planning from Matt la Floor and his coaching staff and 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.200 Aaron Rodgers just being brilliant. I mean, now, thirteen touchdown, 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.559 zero interceptions on pace for really, I hate to even 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.119 put it this way right now, but you know, a 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.800 career type season. I mean, he has been playing lights 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.600 out football in the first four games of the year, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.800 and the Packers have really followed suit well. I remember 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.480 saying last week after the victory in New Orleans that 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.560 if you had told me the Packers are going to 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.560 be without Davante Adam, We're not going to rush for 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.920 a hundred yards and they were going to score thirty 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.160 seven points against the Saints and leave the Super dumb 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.760 with a victory, I would have said, I'm not quite 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.800 sure how that's going to work. Well, so what happens 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:17.360 this week? No Davante Adams, no Alan Lazard, no, Marcedes 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.040 Lewis either he misses the game with an injury, and 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:25.840 yet Aaron Rodgers throws four touchdown passes, only six incomplete passes, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.160 and has a one forty five point seven passerrating and 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.080 you just you kind of go, how how is he 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.600 doing this? How are they doing this? It just doesn't 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.480 It doesn't fit the norm, the narrative that you think 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.320 would occur with what the Packers have been dealing with, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.240 and yet here they are another thirty point performance easily 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.400 could have been thirty seven if you're not stopped on 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.280 fourth and gold the one and uh um, and the 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.520 Packers offense is just is just in almost in a 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.240 league of its own right now. Yeah. And it's funny too, Mike, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.280 if you go and actually break it down on like 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.280 this the Packers in terms of just passing to the 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.919 running backs and tight ends, Rogers was a perfect twenty 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.160 for twenty in this game, three touchdown passes. Uh It's 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.200 quite remarkable the way he's been able to orchestrate this thing. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.000 Somebody insider inbox asked me, as I'm preparing at the 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.720 time in which we're taping this for Wednesday's edition, somebody 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.720 asked me about what has impressed me the most through 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.960 the first four games of this season, and really it 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.880 keeps coming back to the overall offensive efficiency and also Mike, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.240 just how well they've performed in four minutes situations. Uh, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.680 you and I can talk about how they're right now, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.640 I think fifth in the league and third downs conversions, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.680 but that's not just always being in good positions. It's 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.000 also picking up some third and longs too that at 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.000 times that's been a real difficulty for the Packers over 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.480 the years, going back to Mike McCarthy's time here as well. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.280 And they're doing it and I think they might have 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.600 either one or none. Uh when you know three and 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.960 notes to this point of this season, it just seems 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.840 like every time that Aaron Rodgers lines up, there is 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.800 a feeling they're gonna be able to push the all downfield. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.280 It was funny listening to Mount la Floor after the 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.640 game on Monday, I'd say, yeah, for as much praise 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.160 as I got a week before for the flow and 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.760 the play calling, I didn't really feel like I was 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.400 in a flow. Well that's not quite feeling like he 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.720 was in a flow. Still ended up being a really 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.680 solid offensive performance and and certainly a dominating win. I mean, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.640 this was a defining victory. It looked like a three 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.200 and O team, even missing Davante Adams and Kenny Clark 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.440 and whatnot, still look like a three year three and 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.159 O team, you know, dismantling and deconstructing, and team that 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.520 is still yet to win this season. Yeah, I mean, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.839 you can take your pick as far as the statistics 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.719 with Aaron Rodgers and where he is at the quarter 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.719 pole of the season. Here thirteen touchdown passes, zero interception, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.640 zero turnovers as a whole for the Packers offense, and 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.359 as Rogers pointed out after the game, not even a 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.800 lot of close calls in terms of turnovers. I mean, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.320 you've seen it over the years, West, you know, I mean, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.239 a bad passes, a dropped interception. You know, quarterbacks benefit 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.039 from that all the time. Rogers hasn't really had any 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.680 of those. And on top of that, the Packers haven't 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.160 even had a fumble actually hit the ground in the 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.320 field of play because the only fumble on their on 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.520 their statistical chart is won by Aaron Jones back in 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.120 Week one in Minnesota, where the ball flew out of 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.279 bounds and never really had a chance to be recovered 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.120 by the defense anyway. So um, what the Packers are 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.599 doing here offensively, it's incredibly efficient. We talked in the 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.000 early weeks about how all the moving parts on the 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.480 offensive line the Packers weathered those storms. That group has 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 been playing really, really well. Now they finally had a 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.400 second straight week with the same starting five, the same 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.400 group up front, and it's and again it was the 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.799 same type of performance. And and another statistic, Aaron Rodgers 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.840 has only been sacked three times in four games, with 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.280 plenty of dropbacks, and he puts at least two of 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.599 the three sacks just on himself for not being able 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.320 to get away from pressure situations that he feels he 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.400 should escape. So um, just a lot of things really 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.120 falling into place for this Packers offense despite injuries. And 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.360 the Packers are going to have to deal long term 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.320 now without Alan Lazard for a while. It sounds like 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.719 they won't have Josiah Deguara, the rookie tight end for 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.080 a while. He has a significant knee injury. But so far, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.320 whatever the missing pieces have been, it hasn't mattered. And 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.479 that's a credit to Aaron Rodgers, it's a credit to 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.480 all those guys, I think, particularly the guys up front 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.839 with the offensive line and the Matt Lafleur in that 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.719 offensive coaching staff for the game plans they're putting together 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.880 week after week. Yeah, And I don't want to just 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.600 sit here and point towards, you know, certain past offenses 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.080 or Packers teams and say, well, this is how much 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.640 better they are now. But you think back to two 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.520 thousand fifteen and when they lost Jordy Nelson, how much 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.279 the domino effect that that had on the entire roster, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.839 the passing game, the way that they were able to 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.640 move the ball downfield. And this year they went two 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.839 games without Davante Adams, you had Alan Lazard step up 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.960 and then he's gone here for the foreseeable future. But 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.720 you know, we've talked time and time again, Mike about 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.560 how malleble this offense is, and I thought this game 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.920 was the ultimate testament to that. Matt Lafleur has had 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.839 that two running back package in his back pocket for 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.640 some time now. In addition to all the motioning that 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.840 they do with Tyler Irvin as a you know, kind 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.960 of a hybrid receiver. They did some plays there with 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.200 Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams in the backfield. And do 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.920 you know why, because you're making a case that those 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.120 are the two top playmakers on offense going into this game. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.840 You know, there was a lot of consternation at the 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.200 end of the first half of a well where is 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.960 Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams had seventy seven receiving yards. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.240 That was the most in the first half by a 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.800 Packers running back in six years. I mean, you ride 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.960 with the hot hand, and I think we're so used 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.120 to saying, well, Aaron Jones is the starter. Now you 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.560 kind of forget about what Williams brings to the table too, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.760 coming five yards short of his first hundred yard receiving 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.560 game in this matchup, and getting back to Tanyan there too. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.000 You know the red zones, Mike being able to push 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.080 the ball in. Now, obviously they had they came up 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.800 short on the fourth and goal earlier on, but once 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.679 they got into the red area there in the second 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.080 and third quarters, they were hard to stop. And one 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.480 of the big things when you think back to these 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.880 Packers offenses, when they are effective, when they can find 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.560 a way to get the ball, doesn't necessarily have to 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.239 be a tight end, but oftentimes it can be find 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.080 the way to pass the ball in the red area, 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.640 good things are gonna happen. Tanyan stepped up ninety receiving yards, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.240 three touchdowns. Uh, you know, a classic performance, something that 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.280 you know, Greenby I think really is wanted to see 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.520 from the third year tight end now. And yeah, it 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.040 wasn't Adams, it wasn't Lazard it it had to be 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.520 somebody else and they found a way to make it happen. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.480 A few interesting stats with regard to Robert Tanyan's three 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:36.079 touchdown performance in this game. First, he is the uh 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.800 I'm trying to remember now for certain, the third Packers 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.760 tight end in team history to have three touchdown catches 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.400 in one game, joining Keith Jackson from and jere Michael 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:52.080 Finley from earlier this decade. And Robert Tanyan also has 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.080 uh a touchdown catching three consecutive games, and he's the 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.800 first Packers tight end to do that since jew Michael 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.560 Finley back into two thousand twelve. And I'll throw another 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.240 one at you West. Robert Tayan now has seven touchdown 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.959 receptions from Aaron Rodgers. That ties him for the lead 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:14.720 amongst the undrafted players who have caught touchdown passes from 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.400 Aaron Rodgers. John kun also had seven, not including playoffs. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.960 Will see maybe Robert Tanyan has some playoff touchdown receptions 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.560 in his future as well. We don't want to get 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.080 ahead of ourselves. But that being said, um before we 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.880 shift gears to the defense, a little bit of sponsor business. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.640 Serious x M NFL Radio channel is the only radio 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.880 outlet dedicated to the National Football League seven days a week, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:43.000 three d sixty five days a year. Okay, West defensive 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.480 side of the ball. I'm writing about this this week 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.800 for our website. This Packers defense has gone through its 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.360 ups and downs through the first four games. I think 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.400 there wasn't it wasn't the pinnacle. It wasn't the perfect 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.000 performance by any means against the Atlanta Falcons. But I 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.320 think we saw a much steadier defensive performance on Monday 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.200 Night than we had seen previously. You start out with 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.560 a couple of three and ounce. You don't allow the 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.920 Falcons into the end zone until the second half. You 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.440 you have a big stand in the red zone after 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.040 a long drive to hold the Falcons to a field goal. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.240 You stop at potential touchdown drive towards the end that 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.079 would have made it a one score game late in 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.079 the fourth quarter. Those types of pieces, those are the 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.840 elements that we saw from what was a much steadier 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.720 defense for the Packers in nineteen I think Monday Night's 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.439 performances starting to get this defense to point in that direction. Well, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.719 there were two things I really liked about this performance. One, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.559 they came out right away and got three three and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.400 out's in the first half. That that kind of allowed 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.560 them to get on this run. And then you know, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.160 the offense to start finding itself and you know, finished 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.400 really strong with those two Robertsonian touchdowns in the second quarter. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.080 That was really good. But it was also the way 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.920 they finished in the second half. I mean, Mike, they 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.640 had a lot of things that started working against and 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.160 now certainly you look around the Atlanta side of things, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.920 they weren't able to finish the game with you know, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.240 Julio Jones, but Kevin King goes out with the quad injury, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.960 Shannon Sullivan goes out with the concussion he gets diagnosed 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.520 with that's your number two and number three cornerback. So 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.280 they had to get really creative there. You saw Raven 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.520 Green get used in the slot, Will Redmond came in 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.120 the dime package basically had four defensive backs I'm sorry, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.920 four safeties and its defensive backfield out of the six Jr. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.080 Alexander put together a strong performance. They were able to 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.000 maneuver their positions there in the secondary, and I think 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.280 you're seeing a unit that's getting more comfortable playing with 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.440 itself outside of what you would consider maybe the quote 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.800 unquote starting eleven. So that was a huge positive. But 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.000 at the end of the day, you go back to 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:46.199 your playmakers and Zadarius Smith. He he owned this ball game, 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.559 especially in the second half. I mean, three sacks. You're 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.840 gonna write about it on packers dot com with with 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.280 your what um you know what you might have missed. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.920 He's affecting plays even when he isn't getting at the quarterback. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.000 Though he finished is the game with the team high 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.440 eight tackles. Do you understand how difficult that is to 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.600 finish the game with to lead your defense and tackles 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.160 if you're an outside rusher. I mean, this is what 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.360 this guy's bringing to the table. Five quarterback hits, four 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.720 tackles for a loss, and a partridge in a pear tree. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.440 This is this is really incredible stuff that he's putting together. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.520 Five sacks Mike through the first four games. That's tied 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.520 with Miles Garrett for the most in the NFL. The Packers, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.160 we were all wondering the conversation was going into this year. Okay, 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.360 Zadarius Smith is no longer an unknown commodity. This guy 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.480 is gonna have people. You know, he's gonna be in 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.400 the crosstairs. People are gonna be gunning for him. And 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.360 it really hasn't mattered. I mean, there's a couple of 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.360 penalties that I'm sure that Mike Petton and Mike Smith 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.920 want to clean up. But other than that, man Darius 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.720 Smith is the real deal. Yeah. And Matt Lafleur even 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.600 said it on Tuesday when he spoke with reporters that 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.640 you know, Zadarius Smith is such a leader on the defense. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.800 He's he's got that personality, he's got that energy, everything 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.839 he brings. For this Packers defense to be playing at 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.720 its best, Zadarius Smith needs to be that leader, needs 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.400 to be that got, that all pro type guy at 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.520 the top of his game. And la Fleur said, hey, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.720 you know, he's been battling through some stuff just like 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.920 everybody does. He hasn't necessarily been a d percent healthy 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.200 since the start of the season, so the bye week 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.280 potentially is going to do him some good as well 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.960 as several of those other guys that you mentioned. Uh, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.199 you know that the Packers are dealing with injury wise, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.120 and hopefully they get Kenny Clark back as well now 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.440 that he's he's missed three straight games. But um, but yeah, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.160 the defense just had a different feel to it. It 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.280 just does have a different different aura about it. When 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:37.000 Sadarius Smith is dodging blockers and dominating the way that 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.440 he was. And I'll throw this in as well, because 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.559 you know, we saw some big plays earlier in the season, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.600 Alexander getting the sack safety in Minnesota, Sullivan getting the 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.360 pick six against the Lions, and Zadarius with the big 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.560 force fumble you know on Taysom Hill down New Orleans, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.960 that play in the end zone late in the fourth 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.600 quarter by Adrian Amos to knock that ball away at 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.480 the last second from Calvin Ridley and prevent that touchdown 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.400 on fourth and ten from about the twenty five yard line. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.439 That's not necessarily going to make all the big highlight 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.040 reels at the end of the end of the season. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.520 But that was a whale of a play by the 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.400 Packers veteran safety and as I said before, that prevented 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.920 it from becoming a one score game really for the 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.480 first time since the early stages of the ball game. Yeah, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.640 I mean it basically slammed the door on you know, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.000 the Falcons and being able to mount any type of comeback. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.120 And you know, certainly they were going through a lot 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.600 of things and mentally just trying to push through what 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.320 they've had to go through here with some really demoralizing losses. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.920 You know, Matt Lafleur said it all a week long. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.680 He felt like they were going to get the falcons best, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.640 best effort in a lot of ways. I think they did. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.200 It's just that Atlanta has really been hit hard by 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.560 the injury bug. Then you look at that's that the 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:44.640 way they finished this game though, and in a credit 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.280 to Adrian Amos, I mean, those are the type of 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.360 plays that if you're not just giving that little extra ounce, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.040 maybe that ball gets through, maybe that does become a 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.320 touchdown reception. But it really shows the veteran presence that 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.720 he provides back there, and and if you listen to 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.280 the way that those guys responded to that play after words, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.360 you would have thought he intercepted it. I mean, guys 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.800 were just jacked up, they were excited. It was the 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.440 type of exclamation point that I think they really wanted 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.080 to put on this performance because we've seen them come 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.320 down the stretch where they've been you know, well ahead. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.119 The decision is not in really jeopardy at all whatsoever. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.120 The wind is in the bag, so to speak. But 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.720 you know, you give up some passes here and you 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.520 give up some yards there in those garbage things that 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.600 really hurts you in the rankings. Green Bay for the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.560 most part, didn't do that here. They kept a foot 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.600 on the gas pedal and despite some of the pieces 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.120 that they were missing defensively, again, I think they've really 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.520 learned to play without them and in you know, finding 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.600 a way to develop that chemistry, even if there's some 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.120 new guys that are in the mix. Yeah. Well, as 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:41.960 I mentioned at the top of the show, the Packers 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.760 are four and oh and in first place all by 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.760 themselves in the NFC North. I want to talk a 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.680 little bit more about that in just a second, but 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.760 gear up for game day, folks. Open a Packers checking 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.520 account from Associated Bank and score a fifty dollar Packers 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.320 Pro Shop gift card. Learn more at Associated bank dot com. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:04.680 Backslat Packers. All right, well, the Chicago Bears took their 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:09.560 first loss of the season on the chin the Indianapolis Colts. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.720 All to talk about the Bears changing quarterbacks and Nick Foles, 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.040 and I do think the Bears have the better quarterback 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.160 playing right now. But I tell you what, and the 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.440 Packers are going to see this Indianapolis Colts team at 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.720 Lucas Oil Stadium in about a month and a half. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.520 That Colts defense is legit West. They they shut down 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.400 the Minnesota Vikings earlier, they completely bottled up the Chicago Bears. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.000 The Colts and Philip Rivers kind of a new lease 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.480 on life there in Indianapolis after after some rough times. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.120 And um that that victory by Indianapolis has the Packers 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.440 four no and one of only I'm sorry, I have 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.720 the Packers in first place stopping the Bears from getting 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.800 to fourn O. And the Packers are one of only 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.880 two teams in the NFC at four and oh along 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.280 with the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, I mean, first off, when 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.120 you talk about the Colts, I mean the exciting thing 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.400 about Indianapolis is I can't tell you how often if 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.680 you go back to Philip Rivers run with the Chargers, 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:10.000 they really had a really strong, impenetrable defense. And it's early, 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.600 but I mean the numbers that the Colts are putting 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.480 up now in contrast to the rest of the National 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.040 Football League, it's gonna be tough to knock him out 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.520 of that spot here for a while. They're gonna need 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.280 to have some pretty big performances against them in order. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.000 I think they're giving up like two or thirty six 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.320 yards a game right now. I mean, and there's only 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 maybe five teams that are keeping on defenses or offenses 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.080 underneath three right now. So it's a really strong, formidable 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.919 group that the Colts have assembled. And certainly, uh Philip 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.560 Rivers has shown over the years, I mean, exactly what 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.120 he can do when he's given you know, not necessarily 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.800 having to play from behind, that he's able to control 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.520 the game. A little bit more from the Bears perspective, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.000 it was probably the performance you did not want to see. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.080 You make that move to folds. I think that that 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:51.720 was going to be something where if they could have 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.720 gotten off on the right foot, then then you feel 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.480 more confident about where this offense is headed. Instead, you 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.040 start to get into this little area where you're not 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.040 too quite certain who your quarterback is, You're not too 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.200 certain what the direction of your offense is going to be. Uh. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.800 In that way, it was dis concerning for the Bears. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.159 The nice thing though for them is it appears like 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.560 they're gonna press forward the folds here. They're gonna stick 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.920 to their guns. And if he ends up being the guy, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.000 I think that that's the right move. You can't be 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.920 doing this thing where you're going in and out every 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.880 single week with a different quarterback. You've got to give 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.680 the other ten guys on the offensive side of the 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.160 ball in understanding who the leader is going to be 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.120 in Fols has shown in the past that he can 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.800 be that guy. It's just tough for them right now, 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:34.679 considering how well he played in a relief appearance for them, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.520 that they weren't able to get that same kind of 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.040 strong start on the back end of it. Yeah, no 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:40.760 question about it. I think there are a lot of 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.920 a lot of uncertainty just as to where things are 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.199 headed in in Chicago on offense right now. Yeah, and 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:48.919 to throw something else in there too. It isn't just 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.640 all on the quarterback. There were a lot of years 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.520 between if it was Matt Forte or you know, they 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.399 had a running back, they had a running game that 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.800 they were really well established with. You know, as much 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.280 as we talk about Trabisky here the last two three years, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.840 they just have not had a consistent running presence. And 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.119 if you don't have that, especially for that type of quarterback, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.520 it's going to make life a little bit more difficult. 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.400 And every time Mike you can look at the Bear 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.720 stats and it happens time and time again. I'll look 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.320 at him in the middle of the third quarter and 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.800 they're leading rusher is David Montgomery with eight carriers for 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.159