1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Book Kick Golf Live right here on 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Giants dot Com. I am John Schmilt joined by Lance Meadow. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: The phone number for you it's two one four or 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: five one three or hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter. It's 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: all presented by cores Light. Download the cores Light rewards 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: apt to an Amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. John Schmulk, 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, Giants getting ready for the Texans. Let's move 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: on from recapping the game last week. We had David 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Deal yesterday Lands, so we kind of went into all 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line mackination. So there's nothing that we can 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: really add that's gonna give you more than what David 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: gave us yesterday. So, um, let's break down here what's 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: going on with the Houston Texans. Lance from uh seeing 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the forest from the trees type of perspective. Both teams 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: are OWEN two. You obviously, you start the season oh 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: and three. Your chances of making the playoffs they're already small, 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: and OWEN two probably about a ten percent chance, give 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: or take though I think one team in the last 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: each of the last four years to start OWEN two 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: and made the playoffs. So you have a shot once 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: you get to Owen three, the mathematics are not in 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: your favor. Oh absolutely, I said, this reminds me of 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: the game last year, John, We were a little further 24 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: along when the Chargers and the Giants played each other 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: and they're both owing four. That was game five, hanging 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: into Week five, and ultimately the Chargers won that game, 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: and the Chargers made a valueant comeback. If you're recall, John, 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: they won nine of their last twelve. They finished up 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: nine and seven, just felt short of the postseason. So 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to your point, yes, it is possible to regroup. It 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: is possible to recover. Even with that being said, very 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: difficult than the percentages are against you. But this is 33 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: a huge game. It goes without saying for Bowl teams 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: because they're looking for some semblance of continuity Bowl teams. 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: I think if you compare both of these squads, they 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: both have had their fair share of ups and downs. 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: They've both been close in the contests where a play 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: here or play Their level of execution, decision here, decision there, 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: ultimately was the difference between them winning and losing a 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: football game. So you know this is gonna come down 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: to to me, and I know we sound like broken records, 42 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: but Houston's offensive line has just as many question marks 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: as the Giants offensive, if not more. They're bad. Yeah, 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: and they brought in three new faces this offseason. So 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: the reason why I bring that up, John, because the 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Giants also made numerous amount of changes. The Texans had 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: their fair share of issues in two thousand seventeen. They 48 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: go out in free agency and they bring in some 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: established veterans. If you look at they brought in Zack Fulton, 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: who was with Kansas City for the last four seasons. 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: He's their right guard. They brought in at left guard 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: Seneo Callamette, who was with the New Orleans Saints the 53 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: last four seasons. Yeah, well, you know, we try to 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: make sure that it rolls off the tongue. And Martinez 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: Rankin was a draft pick this year and the only 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: reason why he's playing left tackle is because Seantrel Henderson 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: went down a week one with a broken ankle. So, 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, you can argue you've got two teams they 59 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: had issues and in seventeen they addressed them. Hasn't necessarily 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: followed the exact game plan that they had in mind. 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: And then Nick Martin was a draft pick last year. 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: They're starting center, so very similar to how they've kind 63 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: of pieced this thing together. When you compare it to 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the Giants, they don't have that, you know, big splashy 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: fridge in addition, like Nates so older. But it is 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: a new group. And look, they've struggled inside their tackles, 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: have given up a lot of pressure, and that thing 68 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: is a great way to start your lance. You I 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: watched the Texans their first two games on coaches tape. 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: They want to throw the ball down the field, they 71 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: will go into shotgun. Deshaun Watson's gonna sit back there 72 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: and he is gonna hold the football and hold the 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: football and by time to try to get DeAndre Hopkins 74 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: and Will Fuller downfield. Bruce Ellenton in there too, if 75 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you want and make big plays down the field. If 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: there was every game where the Giants were going to 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: get a little bit of pass rush and affect the quarterback, 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: this is it. They are ripe for it. Olivia Vernon, 79 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: We'll see what his final practice report is, uh tomorrow. 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday it looked like when the media was out there 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: he was gonna practice a little bit. On the report, 82 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: it turned out he was a d n B. So 83 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you what he did right now 84 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: because I don't want to give you a bed information 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: like I did yesterday. But certainly, lance very very important, 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: whether Vernon's on the field or not. If you can't 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: pressure to Shawn Watson, he will pick you apart, whether 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: it's with his arm or with his legs. This pass rush, 89 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's even more important than the Giants 90 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: offensive line this week. If you can't get pass pressure 91 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: on the Shaun Watson in this game, the Texans are 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: putting up thirty plus. They are period, they just are. 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: And the Giants have not been able to put any 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: sort of consistent pass rush on against other teams so 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: far this year. One sack, one takeaway, and that one 96 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: takeaway in many ways because they haven't forced the opposing 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: quarterback into mistakes. That has to get better this week. 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: It's so stopping the run, Yeah, it's great. You gotta 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: do what I understand. You've gotta pressure the pass this week. 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: You have to make Watson uncomfortable and force him into 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: mistakes and make him get rid of the ball so 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: they don't make those big plays down the field. Yeah, 103 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: because if you get a hit on him, John, and 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you know he's in an awkward situation. The ball goes up. 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Now that may give you an opportunity to win a 106 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: jump ball. He loves to throw the ball deep down 107 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: the field because in his philosophy, John, he says to himself, 108 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and you brought up the personnel. Will Fuller and DeAndre 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Hopkins not only do they have great vertical speed, but 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: they're also very good at pursuing the football. They will 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: not leave their quarterback out to draw. So his feeling is, 112 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: if I throw it into double coverage, I still feel 113 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: my wide receiver is not going to leave me out 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: to dry. He's gonna go after and pursue the football. 115 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: So that's why Deshaun Watson doesn't shy away from taking 116 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: those chances. That's why you get hits on him. You 117 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: affect how the ball comes out. It's gonna put you 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: in a position to get take away the football. And 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: on two of those balls he's throwing interceptions this year, 120 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: throwing the ball into literally literal double coverage. Two guys 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: surrounding the receiver on deep posts down the middle of 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: the field. Terrible decisions by Watson. If a guy's single covered, 123 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: you want to throw up a jump ball to see 124 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: if they make a play short. I get it, no 125 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: argument for me, especially when you've gotta speeds. They're like 126 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Fuller and a guy like Hopkins who's basically plastic man 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: trying to get to the trying to get to the football. 128 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: But double team and he will force the ball down 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the field into mistakes and he will, he'll do it. 130 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: He's he is not a checkdown guy. Dak Prescott likes 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: to check it down and throw short passes. Noah and 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is not running a college offense here either. 133 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: It's not. You know, they were in a little bit 134 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: of readoption and some r pos, but it's less than 135 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: what you saw from Jacksonville and frankly probably Dallas. So 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: they have Watson in the NFL offense. They don't move 137 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the pocket a lot will step back there and they 138 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: want to let him chuck it down the field. And 139 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: when he has time in a clean pocket, lens he 140 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: has an arm to make every throw and he is 141 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: accurate with the football. I know they lost last week, 142 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of that was a fluky special teams play. 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: Their defense held the Titans to under three hundred yards 144 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: in fact, they outgained Tennessee by about a hundred and 145 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: sixty yards in that game, about four fifty to two ninety, 146 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: and DeShawn Watson was twenty two or thirty two for 147 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: three hundred some yards and a touchdown. Two touchdowns, I think, 148 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: so he played pretty well in that game. He didn't 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: play well against New England. He played well last week 150 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: against Tennessee. He threw one each to Hopkins and Fullers, 151 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: so those were his two touchdown passes. And the interception 152 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: that you were mentioning, Hopkins initially split the double team 153 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: and then put his hand up. If you go back 154 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: and you watch the game, and I think Watson felt 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: there was a fracture of a second for him defeat 156 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: it in there. Then all of a sudden, the double 157 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: team closed in. And despite the fact that I thought 158 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Hopkins made a good play on the football, there was 159 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: no way he was going to hauld that in, as 160 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: acrobatic and athletic as he is. But to your point, 161 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: you're right, they've been able to move the football. You know, 162 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: field position has been a big thing. And if you 163 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: go back to that last play of the game, used 164 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to potentially has a chance again at the field goal range, 165 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: tie the game and send it over time and Watson 166 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: just held onto the football for the Sunday clock ran out. 167 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: After he threw the ball with about six seconds left 168 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: in the game, when they had the possession. When it 169 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: was seventeen seconds, he throws it over the middle of 170 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the Hopkins. There's no time left for them to snap 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: it down and try to run another play. So, you know, 172 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: some mental errors I think have come back to bite Euston. 173 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: But you know, as much as we've talked about the 174 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: potential for this offense too rely on big plays and 175 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: put points on the board, you also can't overlook the 176 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: fact that this defense has a lot of playmakers up front. John, 177 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: that this offensive line for the Giants is gonna be 178 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: tested with probably as close to a unit as you'll 179 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: see with what Jacksonville brought to the table. And then 180 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: with respect to the secondary, you know they've got a 181 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of veterans back there. Tyrone Matthew they brought in 182 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: as a free agent. He he's very familiar with James 183 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Betcher's scheme. I will tell you that even though he's 184 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: going up against the Giants offense, because he was with Arizona, 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: they got Jonathan Joseph who has been a former Pro 186 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Bowl corner, Aaron Colvin they brought in from Jacksonville, who 187 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: you can throw it in the slot, and then Kareem Jackson, 188 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: to me, is probably the most intriguing player in the 189 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: secondary because he was a corner, they moved him to safety. 190 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: But then when they drafted Justin Reid this year, John 191 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: they sort of been moving back and forth, so they 192 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of playmakers back there to compliment what 193 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: is a very fearsome front seven. I will say this, 194 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: other than J. J. Watt right now, those front is 195 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: probably more name recognition than it is production. Whinney merciless 196 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: heading into this game, believe it or not. Is according 197 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, and take it with a grain 198 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: of salt, Houston's lowest rated defender this year. He doesn't 199 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: have a hurry, he doesn't have a pressure, he doesn't 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: have a knockdown, he doesn't have a sack. He's put 201 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: up goose eggs. So he hasn't played well to start 202 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the year. Clowney doesn't have a sack either, didn't play 203 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: last week with the back. He's been limited in practice 204 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: this week. I would imagine he's probably gonna play in 205 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: this game, but we'll if to wait and see. Backs 206 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: can be tricky, you never know, uh J J. Watt. 207 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: In the other hand, while he doesn't have a sack 208 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: technically awarded by the NFL, he's played great. He's all 209 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: over the place, he's in the backfield. He just hasn't 210 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: quite gotten home yet. His run defense has been spectacular. 211 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: PFF hasn't ranked that. I think is the sixth best 212 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: defensive end in in in in the league so far 213 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: this year, so he's playing really really well. And then 214 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: their um rookie Duke Edge of four, who basically last 215 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: week only had four pass rushing snaps but had a 216 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: sack in two hurries in those four stacks absolutely, so 217 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you see him out there 218 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: a little bit more this weekend pass rushing situations. So 219 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at. Up front. They don't do 220 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that Dallas did last week 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: with blitz Is and you know, running a lot of 222 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: stunts and a lot of games. They don't do those 223 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: sorts of things, so that will make things a little 224 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: bit easier on the Giants. But they can win one 225 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: on one and the Giants are gonna have to block 226 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: them up in order. Again, you don't need to dominate 227 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: up there. You just need to be good enough to 228 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: allow the offense to function the way it's supposed to function. 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Give your quarterback time, that's all you're asking, not asking 230 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: to give him a century. Just give him two or 231 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: three seconds so that he can give the wide receivers 232 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: a chance to get down the field and makes them throws. 233 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: How about two reads? Give him time for two reads, 234 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: let him go to his second guy, and you know what, 235 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: if you can't get to a start, you live with it. 236 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: But Eli I could barely get to his first read 237 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: in the last game, the pass rushers would get there 238 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: so close. You mentioned the secondary real quick. A lot 239 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: of soft covers. They don't play any press man, a 240 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of zone, some cover two, some cover three. I 241 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: think they know that their corners aren't the most athletic 242 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: league gifted guys. Are they gonna shut down these you know, 243 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: high powered wide receivers one on one. So they give 244 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: him a lot of help and they play zone. They're 245 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: pretty disciplined, so I think the Giants offense is gonna 246 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: have to be pretty patient in this game. They haven't 247 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: allowed a big deep pass down the field in their 248 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: first two games the Titans, they've been very good in 249 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: that respect. I'm sorry Texans. Yes, they played the Titans 250 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: and the Patriots. They have I think there was one 251 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty yard throw to Gronk who was 252 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: double covered and made an unbelievable catch going down the seam. 253 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Other than that, these guys are not getting beat over 254 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: the top land, So this Giant's offense is going to 255 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: have to be patient. Yeah, if you even go back 256 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and you watch that Tennessee game, John, to your point, 257 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: a lot of what Tennessee did was dump it off 258 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: and get yardage after the catch is opposed to you know, 259 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: run guys deep down the field. So you know, well 260 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: disciplined unit, I think is a good way to describe it. 261 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: The one other player that I did want to mention 262 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: when you were going through the front seven who I 263 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: think deserves a little credit and I don't personally think 264 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: he's a household name, but their nose tackles DJ Reader 265 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: who's got two sacks already on the season point and 266 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: leads the team. He's somebody that I don't think he 267 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: can sleep on as well. And he's pff second best 268 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: defender of that group after J. J. Watt. So you're right, 269 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: he has played really well this year. He's a fifty 270 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: six d and pick from a couple of years ago, 271 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and he has played good ball. So that's a that's 272 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: a very good point. He has played well. He gets 273 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: penetration right up the gut and then he lets obviously 274 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Clowney and Watt go to work. So you know they've 275 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: got some men and potatoes up front, as I like 276 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: to say. But you know, maybe not as crafty and 277 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: creative with Romeo Cornell's defense as what Rod Marinelli does 278 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: with Dallas, but you know, the defensive line, in the 279 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You know, whether you speak to any of 280 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: the players that are on the Giants roster, they're always 281 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you whatever happened the previous week is really irrelevant, John, 282 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: because every team has its own set of challenges because 283 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: every team follows a different scheme. But the one thing 284 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: that I would not be surprised with is if you're 285 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell, you are going to look at what Jacksonville 286 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: and Dallas did, John, And even though that not may 287 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: not be a part of their strategy with stunts and 288 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: so forth. What it surprised me. Maybe he tries to 289 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: adopt some things that they have and run just to 290 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: try to catch the Giants off guard. Testament early No, 291 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting point because if you 292 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: look at the Texans on tape lands, they don't do 293 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. But will they then? And 294 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: they do it. I think I counted a handful of 295 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: four or five times over It's but that's it's easy 296 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: to make it part of your identity for a week 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: in a game plan situation, and that's the thing. And 298 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: similarly on the offensive side of the ball. And I 299 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: don't the folks that all might not believe this when 300 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: I say it, but it's true. I watched every play 301 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: in the first two games this year. DeShawn Watson hasn't 302 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: kept the ball on a read option play once this 303 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: whole year. They've run it, he hands it off every time. 304 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: His only design run was on a quarterback draw at 305 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the end of the Patriots game when they were in 306 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: the red zone, and I think at the four yard 307 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: line he tried to run in and out a quarterback 308 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: draw and he got stopped. So I'm not sure if 309 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: they're telling him to be cautious there because he's protecting 310 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: his surgically repaired a c L or whatever the case 311 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: might be. Lands But the bottom line is that he 312 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: has not run the ball on his line situations. However, 313 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and I mentioned the James Becher, that doesn't mean they're 314 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: not gonna try to do it this week based on 315 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: the issues the Giants have had stopping it. So the 316 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: Giants are going to have to prepare for it, and 317 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: we'll see how that ends up going. Because I would 318 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: not be surprised if both those things you mentioned, the 319 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: games on the defensive line and him holding the ball 320 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: on the Reid option and running some of those bootlegs 321 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and such, and and you know, going outside on those 322 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: options plays, if the Texans didn't put those in, I 323 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: think that'd be pretty foolish on their part. Given the 324 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: failures of Giants have had dealing with those, there be 325 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: a head scratching move. I mean, why not see if 326 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: the Giants made the necessary corrections. To me, that's a 327 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: no brainer. But you look at Blake Bortles the forty 328 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: one yard run John in Week one, Doc had seven 329 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: rushes for forty five yards, And I don't care whether 330 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: they were designed or not. The point is the opposing 331 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks in the first two weeks have had success 332 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: against the Giants defense. Yeah. When I say designed, I 333 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: just mean they weren't past plays in which the quarterback 334 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: rant it. These are quarterback keepers where it's a it's 335 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: a run play, it's not a pass play. And I 336 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: think Prescott had three of those last week if I 337 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: remember right, and all three of them went for more 338 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: than five yards to went for more than ten yards, 339 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I think. And then you the Borders Monster. And then 340 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: of course the one of the preseason two. Let's be 341 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: honest this that also counts with the Patriots. That's a 342 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: fair point. I mean the one that Doc ran where 343 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean he caught the entire Giants defense off guard 344 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: where you hate fake the hand off the Elliot correct 345 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Then then Prescott went to the left and everybody else 346 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: was staring at Elliott. So you know they have Lamar Miller. 347 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: And I know you brought this up earlier. John goes 348 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: without saying, you gotta stop the run. But the Texans 349 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: are the number one rushing attack in the National Football 350 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: League through the first two weeks of the season, which 351 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: is helped by Watson by the way running on because 352 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: you have to anticipate that. But as a team, man, 353 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna look at Lamar Miller's numbers versus everybody else. 354 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: As a team, they're getting over about a hundred forty 355 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: yards per game right now and more than five yards 356 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: per carry. Now, if you take out Watson's runs, and 357 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: I did that, and again he didn't design runs. They're 358 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: not running plays, but it's a scrambles on pass plays 359 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: that's about forty yards per game. So I'll knock them 360 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: down from about a hundred and fifty five yards per 361 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: five hundred fifty yards per game two around a hundred 362 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: and ten yards per game, which instead of first would 363 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: put them tenth in the league. And still, by the 364 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: way over five yards per carry. So these guys aren't 365 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: game breakers. Lamar Miller is not gonna, you know, scare 366 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: the bejeezs adea like and Ezekiel Elliott or let in 367 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: four net. You know, Alfred Blue is a you know, 368 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: black and Blue up and down runner. He's not a 369 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: compliment break a lot of big plays. He's their short 370 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: yardage guy. But they have run the ball effectively, and 371 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I think their offensive line plays a lot better run 372 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: blocking than it does pass blocking. So yeah, look, you 373 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: gotta stop that because if you get the Texans in 374 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: second and short, that is a huge green light for 375 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: them to take shots down the field. The second and 376 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: short is your perfect down and distance to make those 377 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: take those types of chances. And if you go back 378 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: to the Tennessee game, and this was similar to the 379 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: issues Dallas had against Carolina, they had penalties, Watson was 380 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: sacked a few times, and that pretty much put them 381 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: in a position John where they were playing from behind 382 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: the chains for the majority of the game. And you 383 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: know that's where you want you still to be playing 384 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: from because you want Watson, regardless of the down, John 385 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to just start heaving it down the field and maybe 386 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: you get a chance or a takeaway. If the running 387 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: game is rolling, then the quarterbacks that much more comfortable. 388 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: And and that, to me is what happened with Jacksonville 389 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: because even when Leonard Fournette went out, yelled and did 390 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: enough to say to Boardles, hey, Blake, we're not looking 391 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: at you to be the hero. And then if you 392 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: go to the Dallas game, Dallas wasn't necessarily running for 393 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards, but Elliott did enough that it also 394 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: took some pressure off of Prescott throughout the course of 395 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: the contest. Yeah. Look, and if you go down to 396 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: then the Texans pass rush can tee off because you 397 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: can't run the football. So I think you put all 398 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: those things together and I think those are some important 399 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: keys for the Giants. All right, let's do your calls 400 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: at two o one, five on three. We want to 401 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: remind you that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented by 402 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: our good friends over at Course Light. Download the cores 403 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Light rewards that to an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. 404 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's do this. Let's do it. Always been 405 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: hole in the longest is Tim and Jackson, New Jersey? Hey, Tim, Hi, 406 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: how you guys? Hey a long time? The speak quest 407 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: after Week four. After the Week four game he gets 408 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Giants will activate Josh More for a 409 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: four game suspension and re least the struggling Eric Flowers. 410 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it in thanks to the call of 411 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Josh Morrow will get activated because the suspension will be up. 412 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: But um, I don't believe that they will release Eric 413 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Flowers because right now he's better than the other options 414 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: at tackle and I'm not gonna make this an Eric 415 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: Flower show because you should have heard the deal Charlie 416 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: incident from yesterday. It was quite I did have to 417 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: say anything was great. I just kept hearing Kip my 418 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: mouch On Davidal just be yelling animals fantastic um. But look, guys, 419 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I know it's frustrating and you say, oh, anybody's got 420 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: to be better than that. No, no, anybody doesn't have 421 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: to be better than that. There are worse players. CO 422 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: watch the Texans two tackles on all right, not much better, 423 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: if better at all. So and they got a rookie 424 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: as one of their tackles. Plus and by the way, 425 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Davenport was their starting left tackle. But I I guess 426 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: they thought that ranking is more comfortable on the left side, 427 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: so when Henderson went down, they moved Davenport from the 428 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: left side to the right side, which is what you 429 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: think you'd watch a more veteran guy on the left side, 430 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, But I guess they ranking is that much 431 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: better on the left side, and that's why they did 432 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: it well. And that's where Rankin played when he's in 433 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Mississippi State. He was their left tackle for four I 434 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: think four seasons. He was there cons the presidents there, 435 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: so maybe they just felt that they can't adjust him 436 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: to write where Davenport can, and therefore it's must easier 437 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: to make that move. But you know, once again, I'm 438 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: not saying we're trying to make this an Eric Flowers show. 439 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: But what I don't understand is why is this the 440 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: game that we're still talking about Eric Flowers when Flowers 441 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: actually I thought it was pretty effective against the Dallas Cowboys. 442 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: He he makes no sense to me. He did not 443 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: get killed one on one on that game. So it's 444 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: all about putting things in perspective two one nine four 445 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: or five one three. Let's go back to the phone 446 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: and say what's up to Antonio in Manhattan? Antonio, Hey, 447 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? John? And Lance? How are you guys 448 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: doing all right? Antonio? What do you got for us? 449 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: I just want to say, man, that David deal yesterday 450 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: was so awesome money with their Um, I wish you 451 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: guys had more opportunity, both Lands and John. I hope 452 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: you guys have more opportunities with him down the line. UM, 453 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: it's just allowed that there were a few guys with 454 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: him and Hope. It's hope. That's how it works out, 455 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, Antonio, what's your point? All right? So I 456 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: got a couple of things first and foremost, Yeah, I agree, 457 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers wasn't. How come nobody is even mentioning um 458 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: soldier at all? Soldier, you know what was the had 459 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: two stacks on his side, whether it was him or 460 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: running like they had to pick up the stack. Nobody's 461 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: talking about him, And I don't know why. Why is that? 462 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: Is it because he's the new guy on the block. Well, 463 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I think Eric Flowers is an easy target based on 464 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: what's happened in previous years. That's why I think everybody 465 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: turns to that point. And I've said this multiple time. 466 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: You have issues on the offensive line across the board. 467 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: If you look at the first two games of the season, 468 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Nate Soldiers had a holding penalty against him. You know, 469 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Taco Charlton went free untouched to sack the quarterback off 470 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: of his side in the Cowboys game. Will Hernandez you know, 471 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: allowed an easy defender to get to Eli in the 472 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: last game to Patrick o'mam ay. On the right side. 473 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Off stunts, you could go up and down across the 474 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, and by the way week one, it was 475 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: across the offensive line. Two guys. This is not just 476 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: one guy, it's the whole line. They've all made mistakes. 477 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you if you're gonna say there's issues, 478 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: then treat it accordingly, which is it's from left to right. 479 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, Antonio, let me throw this out 480 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: there too. It isn't just the offensive line either. There 481 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: were two bunches that should have been picked up by 482 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: Shane Stefan he didn't. And then with the one time 483 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: the Giants did get into the red zone, they ran 484 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: that sweet play right to see Kwon Barkley, and all 485 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: three tight ends missed their box three. They're all line 486 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: on that's to each other, and all three missed their blocks. 487 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: So this is this is a problem not just with 488 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: the offensive line, it's with the whole protection scheme in 489 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: general and blocking in general from all the positions that 490 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: they need to figure out and make work this week. 491 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: I agree. Um. In terms of Obi David, I know 492 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: that he's saying that he's matured, you know, but I 493 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: think that maturity has nothing to do with the emotion. 494 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: This guy is a guy that needs to play with emotion. 495 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want him to see him out 496 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: of control, But I would like to see a little 497 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: bit more emotion from Antonio. Do I mean to cut 498 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: you off? It's it's funny you brought that up. People 499 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: criticize him for playing with too much emotion, so I'm 500 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a little startled when you said you want to see 501 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: more emotion out of him. Yeah. I was not one 502 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: of those people for sure. Well I'm pleasantly surprised to 503 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: hear that because everybody I talked to always criticize him 504 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: fronting too much emotion. I'm with you. No emotions, fine, Antonio. 505 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: As long as those emotions don't turn into distractions and penalties, 506 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: it's fine. And by the way, if you go back 507 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: and I think he is, remember he just hasn't made 508 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: that one big play yet. He had a lot of 509 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: dinking dunks in that first week against Jacksonville, no big 510 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: plays down the field. But I do you a favor 511 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: when you have a second find on the internet the 512 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: you play of the se Kwon Barkley touchdown. He goes 513 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: down there and sprints down and does this quite frankly 514 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: hilarious dance. As as as Barkley is like very nonchalanting, 515 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: like holding the ball up and being all happy Odell 516 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: is doing like a walk walk like the Egyptian dance. 517 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: It's hilarious, So I think he is playing with emotion. 518 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: I just think you haven't had a chance to see 519 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: it yet, all right, guess. And then two more things 520 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: and I'll get off. And one thing is I want 521 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: to see the Giant when they get to the red 522 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: zone on the gold line, not going to the goal 523 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: line offense, but spread the field. Just because our weakness 524 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: is our offensive line. We just don't push too well. 525 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: So I've either see the Giant spread it out and 526 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: try to figure out that way. And then another thing 527 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: too is um, John, I know you said you mentioned 528 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: you watched the film for the Texans. Um when when 529 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: when Watson was at the center, most of the time 530 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: it's either very short play action or most of the 531 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: time is the run play. So I hope we take 532 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: advantage and just blitz them all day and have a 533 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: great one. Guys. I appreciate it. Um, he's in shock 534 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: more than he's under center. When he's under center, they 535 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: did run a lot of those slants. He's right, I 536 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: did not track it like what the percentages run past 537 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: center and shock and they will run it out of 538 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: shotgun too, So you might be right, Antonio, I didn't 539 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: track that, to be quite honest with you, UM, and 540 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I frankly don't have time to go back to it. UM. 541 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say wrong because I didn't track 542 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: that part. As for the spread stuff, and I'm happy 543 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying this when Paul Latino is not on the show, 544 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: because he might reach over and start strangling me with 545 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: his old school mentality. I like running out of the 546 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: spread formations. I think when you go big with the 547 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: multiple tight ends, the defense will put your their bigger 548 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: players on the field. And and quite frankly, lands and 549 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't think this is unique to the Giants. I 550 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: think it's around the league. Tight Ends are big blockers anymore. 551 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: You know tight ends coming into the league from college. 552 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: Now they're catching passes. They're not block They're not Howard Cross, 553 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I would rather get 554 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of dbs on the field, spread the field 555 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, and give Barkley some room to maneuver. 556 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I'd rather take as many defenders out of that box 557 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: as possible by spreading the field, getting at the Barkley 558 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: and let him go. I don't want to bring guys 559 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: in there by piling guys into some jumble formation, not 560 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: spread the field and give him some space. Well, it's 561 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: just me. No, I don't disagree with you. I think 562 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with smaller spaces, and this is just logic. 563 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: The whole point is you want to be able to 564 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: spread the guys out because then it gives you little 565 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: crevices in room to find some openings, especially with a 566 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: guy like Barkley who has the opportunity to make people miss. 567 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: If you give him space, he can take advantage of that. However, 568 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: if I have an offensive line, John, then I think 569 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: it's really good at run blocking, and they're guys that 570 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: could literally push the pile forward. And I'm not saying 571 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: that the Giants offensive line has proven that consistently enough, 572 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: then I have no problem with punching up my big 573 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: guys because I think they have a good track record. 574 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants are there yet where you 575 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: have an overwhelming amount of confidence that that would be 576 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: the formation you'd want to run consistently. Yeah, I think 577 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: it depends on what you're good at. But I think 578 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: where the Giants are now, and given all their weapons 579 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: and if you spread out, you know, you know Ingram 580 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: and three or four other wide receivers and or rather 581 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: three wide receivers, and you have Barkley alone in that 582 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: backfield and the defenses and dime and then like one 583 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: linebacker and four linemen. It sounds like a good matchup 584 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: to me. I'm of course, because you figure as you 585 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: go down the line of all those matchups, John, somebody's 586 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna have an advantage because somebody's gonna go up against 587 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: a non athletic corner or safety, or Barkley is gonna 588 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: get lined up and he's gonna break a tackle. I mean, 589 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: how many tackles and all people talk about the negatives 590 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: last weekend, I get it, But how many tackles at 591 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: Sae kwon Barkley breaking that game? Holy small, Especially on 592 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: that first drive if you remember where they moved the 593 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: ball and they decided to punt on the fourth and one. 594 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: He was joking back and forth Beckham too, by the way, 595 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: that both of them were forcing a lot of miss tackles. 596 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: It just wasn't big explosive place. Well, the Cowboys gang tackle. 597 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: They might the first guy might not have gotten him, 598 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: and then three or four guys showed up well because 599 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: Dallas his philosophy was listen, Eli could dump it off. 600 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep everybody in front of us, so we're 601 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna have other layers of our dfense john in position 602 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that they don't break away for the 603 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty yard game, which also, by the way, 604 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: brings me to one of the points at the last 605 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: color bro which is what Houston does too. By the way, 606 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: just f y I, which is the fact that when 607 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: you go up against a mobile quarterback like Deshaun Watson, 608 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: you want to blitz, blitz, blitz. You gotta be careful though, 609 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: because if you overcommit, Watson's the type of guy he'll 610 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: find the space and then you give up a fifteen 611 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: to twenty yard run. So I'm not big on blitzing 612 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: is the number one priority when you go up against 613 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. I think it's even if you're a 614 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: little hey, you stay back, you protect your zones, you 615 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: watch the crevices, you watch the creases, and you don't 616 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: give up the big play. You can still wind up 617 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: solving a team like that. And that's exactly what New 618 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: England did in Week one, which maybe smart football. Yeah, 619 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: they they contained, and they trusted one of their guys 620 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: up front to eventually get the Watson, which because of 621 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: their offensive line struggles, happened more often than not. And 622 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: they kept guys back in the zone coverage, didn't let 623 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: the Texans receivers beat him down the field, kept everything 624 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: in front of him, which frustrated Watson because he wants 625 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: to throw it down the field so exactly. And he 626 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: held the football and held the football and held the 627 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: football and eventually you get home. And that's what I 628 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: think the Giants game plan needs to be. Yeah, I'm 629 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: not saying you don't Blintz at all, but that, to 630 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: me is not your problem solver this week. Your problem 631 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: solver is don't let Wolf Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins beat 632 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: you deep because they're very different receivers. Fullers a lot 633 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: faster than Hopkins, but Hopkins is one of the best 634 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: possession receivers in terms of you know, catch radius and 635 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: making plays with balls and near him than anybody in 636 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the league. And Fuller is a legit deep threat. They're 637 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: using the stretch the field and they'll keep running them 638 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: on those comebacks and deep incuts. What she backs the 639 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: defensive back off a little bit exactly, and they're good. 640 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: And I mentioned Verdon before. I would be surprised Sheremer 641 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: seemed to indicate before practice that Apple was not gonna 642 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: go cornerback injes are growing to come back the next week. 643 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: I think that's asking a lot, you know what I mean. 644 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: So I would be surprised if Apple was out there 645 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: on so and when Apple spoke to the media the 646 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: other day, John, he even indicated, you know, still some 647 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: discomfort and has in that area. It didn't sound like 648 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: he was overly confident. And that brings up a good 649 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: point because you know, we've talked about Vernon's health of 650 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and you just mentioned coverage down the 651 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: fields important going up against Hopkins and Fuller. It's not 652 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: like he got one side of the field where you 653 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: can say, hey, we'll take our chances. So now if 654 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: Apple's down and be w Webb's gotta fill in, and 655 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: now you gotta work with different personnel in the slot. 656 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm used in John, I am gonna 657 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: test b w web early. And by the way, that 658 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: to me is a no brainer, not just him, because 659 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: they will and Bruce Ellentton is their primary slot guy. 660 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: And you could do a lot of worse than Bruce Ellington. 661 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: By the way, he's been very productive guys in for Fuller. 662 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: They will put DeAndre Hopkins in the slot. With his 663 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: strength and power and catch radius. How is Dante Dion 664 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: at a hundred and seventy five pounds at five nine 665 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: or whatever he's listed at, how is he going to 666 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: cover him in the slot? He runs a slant? Yeah, 667 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: what is he supposed to do? Is not even his 668 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: fault just because of Hopkins size and strength and catch radius. 669 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: So that's another matchup, especially down in the red zone. 670 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: If I'm the Giants and I'm the Texans, I would 671 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: keep an eye on where they line up Hopkins. And frankly, 672 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: we don't really know how Betcher does this. He had 673 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson follow people around when he was in Arizona. 674 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: Will he have Jenkins follow Hopkins around them matter where 675 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: he is? Well, Jenkins follow him into the slot. I 676 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I like that matchup because I think 677 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Jenkins is one of those physical corners that everybody likes 678 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: to mix it up. So I think it's a good 679 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: match for Hopkins. I think he's actually gonna play him 680 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: pretty well. If he's on him, but he's gonna follow 681 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in the slot? Is he's just gonna stay outside. I 682 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: don't know how the Giants are gonna handle that. I 683 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: think it'll be very interesting to watch well. But then again, 684 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say Jenkins does follow Hopkins who's covering Fuller. 685 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: There we go. Because if you're Deshaun Watson, Okay, you 686 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: don't love the matchup on the left, so you're gonna 687 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: go to the right and then Bruce Ellington in the 688 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: middle of the field. And they also they don't have 689 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: stellar tight end play where like you're really worried about it, 690 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: but you know he's capable of making a play here 691 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: or there too because he has the size. Who's their 692 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: second tight know Griffin? They used somebody else. They drafted Aikins, 693 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Aikins drafted this year. Yes, he's their number two 694 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: who I think got maybe a catch or two in 695 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: the last game. Has it been heavily involved. But he's 696 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: a guy that I would say, probably by the second 697 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: half of the season may have a better feel for 698 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: the offense and perhaps they get him involved. But right now, 699 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: I think Houston and Bill O'Brien are more than content 700 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: with Ellington, Fuller and Hopkins. They've got more than enough weapons. 701 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas a third tight end also that they throw 702 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: out there. So those would be the three guys, and 703 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: you're at Jordan Akins seem he's like the twenty six 704 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: year old he was. He got the Central Florida. He 705 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: was on the same team as Chakim Griffin. The Southern 706 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: Florida right south Florida South. Thank you for I was 707 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: in Florida somewhere, the southern area. There's so many of 708 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: those damn Florida schools. There's more per capita universities in 709 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: Florida than like any other place on the planet. He 710 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: was actually he was Central Florida. He was Central from 711 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: looking it up right now, Yeah you see if Yeah, 712 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: he was UCF with Kim Griffin. There was a receiver 713 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: that went there too. And like I said, he's twenty six. 714 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I think he was a baseball player. I forget why 715 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: he started so drafted by the Texas Rangers. There we 716 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: go to all the draftwork in March, paying off the 717 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: little nuggets. Yeah, alright, let's go to struggled in the 718 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: minor leagues though, do you know what he hit in 719 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: the miners in the position. Did you play big guys? 720 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Never rose above a ball? It says he played, you know, 721 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: it does not give that info, says he was just 722 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: drafted by the Rangers in the third round, six or 723 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: two thirty. Yeah, unless unless you are in judge, I 724 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: think you're a first baseman, right, I would think, But 725 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: it does not specify should have played a corner after? 726 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: Maybe find that as we waste our time, Robert and 727 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: can speak as lands. What's up? Robert? Hey, how you 728 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: guys doing? What's picking up the kids right now? Um? 729 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I love you guys, love the show people. I'm down 730 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: in Florida, so people always ask, you know about all 731 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: the moves of Giants made over the season and what 732 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: I thought that the season will look like, and be honestly, 733 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: we all was happy. I would have been happy with 734 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: or would be happy with the eight made seasons. Um, 735 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: because as much in exciting as it was getting all 736 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: the players we've got, and and everyone that's not a 737 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: Giant fans thought that it was there such there was 738 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: such moves. I kept telling, uh, telling my friends who 739 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: are Dallas fans and everything, Well, we have so many holes. 740 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad they did what they did. But fixing what 741 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: was wrong with the Giant has been our own the 742 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Giants was gonna take a couple of years. And that's why, 743 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: and that's why I told him. Look, and eight made season, 744 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm good with because it's gonna take another two years 745 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: probably to get that line solid unless they make some 746 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: unless they get lucky on a couple of a couple 747 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: of moves or a couple of drafts. So I mean, 748 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: it's not it's not fun to have a losing record 749 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: right now, but you know, I'll, like I said, as 750 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: long as we come out, I'm still okay with the 751 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: season than you appreciate. I let Robert finish it because 752 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be me and about three years. So it 753 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: sounds like he's very busy. He's got his hands full. 754 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: All he said, he's picking up his kids. I feel 755 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: his pain. Um, but I look Robert right, and Lance 756 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: and I were on all spring and we used to say, guys, 757 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: you can't You're not gonna fix this offensive line problem 758 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: one off season. And what happened. People called and yelled 759 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: at us and said, no, of course you can fix 760 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: it in one season. Why not you can fix it 761 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: in one season? Now, that you see, Oh, maybe you 762 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: can't fix it in one season. People called like, I 763 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: can't believe they could have fixed it in one season. Well, 764 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: if you listen to us back in April, we would 765 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: have told you that. And guys, they went three and 766 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: thirteen for a reason. I don't think there were three 767 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: and thirteen team the same way I don't think they 768 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: were a ten and six team there were the year before. 769 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, they were probably more like an an eight 770 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: team in a in a five and eleven or six 771 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: and ten team. But it's a very top heavy roster there. 772 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: There's a reason they've churned through about twenty of the 773 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: people that were on this team after final cuts, they're 774 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: still trying to fill out the bottom of this roster. 775 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: You can't fix all those issues in one off season. 776 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: And Lance, the other big point that I made all 777 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: offseason long was there were certain players on this roster 778 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: that if you lose them, it's gonna be very difficult 779 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: to function without them. And one of the top three 780 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: guys on my list was Olivier Vernon because he was 781 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: your pass roushier that was gonna win one on one. 782 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: He was your proven pass rusher to correct. He's your 783 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: guy and he hasn't played and it's killed them. And 784 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: I know they haven't given a ton of points defensively, 785 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: but let's be honest, Blake Bortles and Dak Prescott have 786 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: not been exactly hassled these last two games, and you 787 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: aren't playing two offenses that are known as being explosive. 788 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: When you start playing better quarterbacks, that's gonna come back 789 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: and bite you in the fannie So and it's gonna 790 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: start this week, which is why it's important hopefully Vernon 791 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: can play. If you can't, somebody's got to get an 792 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: effect the quarterback. You half to you half the half 793 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: DA half d you half do well. And I would 794 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: also say this is the best receiving corps that they're 795 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: going to see thus far in the first three weeks 796 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: of the season, easily. So you're gonna be challenged more 797 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: from a secondary standpoint, you're still having that taste of 798 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. Yeah, this is gonna put a little 799 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: bit more pressure on the defense's plate, There's no doubt 800 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: about that. And you know, with respect to the offensive line, 801 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez is a rookie, So you're talking about the 802 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: growing pains of a young player. Patrick o'mama is joining 803 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: a new team, playing next to a guy that's playing 804 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: a completely new position in Eric Flowers. Now is also 805 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: playing next to a new center, by the way, in 806 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: John Greco. So you know, when you take all of 807 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: these things in the consideration, and Nate Solder, who is 808 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: a proven left tackle but is now coming into a 809 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: new team and also playing next to a rookie left guard, 810 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: that's why to expect everything just like that to happen 811 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: in the flip of the switch. Sometimes maybe asking for 812 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: too much. Now, I know what a lot of people 813 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: are gonna say, John, in response to that, We wait 814 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: a minute. Pat Shermer came from Minnesota. The Vikings did 815 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. They brought in a number of new phases. 816 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: But the Vikings brought in two veterans in Riley Reef 817 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: and Mike Rembers, and the rest of that offensive line 818 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: was not full of young players on the interior like 819 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: the Giants work. Well, one was their center. Yeah, that 820 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: was the one guy that was just about to get 821 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: to who they drafted. But you know, we're talking about 822 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: the guards and the tackles. For the most part, you 823 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: had some experience there. You had guys that had you know, 824 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: gone through the trenches at least a year or two. 825 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: Whereas the Giants, they've got either guys playing new positions, rookies, 826 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: slash even a guy like Greco John who has been 827 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: in the league for a long time. He's got far 828 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: more reps and guard than he has its center. And 829 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: I did ask him, by the way, in the locker room. 830 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: You'll see the interview. I think it's up on giants 831 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: dot com ready, and before we started, I just want 832 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: to be like John, I want to just check with 833 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: you how much of you played center in your career 834 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: and he goes, well, I've played a few games there, 835 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: but for a couple of years my primary job was 836 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: backup center, so I did have a lot of reps 837 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: at center and practice. So I think, And I wasn't 838 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: sure until I asked the question, which is why I 839 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: asked it. I think he's pretty comfortable there. I don't 840 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: think that part of it's going to be an issue. 841 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: Um mobility wise, you know, he's an older guy. I'm 842 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: not sure how well he moves, but I don't think 843 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: mentally making calls and things like that. I don't think 844 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna be No, And I agree with you, and 845 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: that's probably not what I was really alluded to you. Sorry, no, 846 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you misinterpreted. I guess my feeling 847 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: was more of the now, you're just playing with some 848 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: guys that maybe you haven't taken a boatload of reps 849 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: with in terms of just the alignment to comfort the communication. Yeah, 850 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: he's certainly snapping the ball to Eli, knowing the offense 851 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: he's been with Pat Shermer. That's not what I would 852 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: be concerned about. I would just be, you know, a 853 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: little bit concerned about or you know, maybe need a 854 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: week or two to see what it's like lining up 855 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: next to Patrick o'mama, to see what it's like being 856 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: next to Will Hernandez. And you know that's why I'm 857 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: anxious to see. Well, I would assume John, this is 858 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: gonna be the week where Spencer Polly or Evan Brown 859 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: is going to be active. That should be surprised. You 860 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: know one of those two is gonna be active. And 861 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: I mentioned it's gonna it's probably gonna be pullycuse he's 862 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: the veteran right right. He started all sixteen games with 863 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: the Chargers, So one of them is gonna be up 864 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: serving as the emergency backup center, and then as we 865 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 1: get later on in the season, not saying that John 866 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: Greco's in danger of losing the job, but if they 867 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: feel as if they want to go with a guy 868 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: that's had far more center experience such as Pulley, we 869 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: could very well see them maneuver the offensive line again, 870 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: depending on where Pulley is with respect to digesting the 871 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: offense to one four or five on three. Lenz in Columbia, Maryland, 872 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: He's up next Highland. Hey, guys, how you doing. What's upright? Lin? Yeah? Listen, 873 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: know how I know you guys are really smart together. 874 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: You you just talked about everything I wanted to talk 875 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: about you. We can read your mind. All right, We'll 876 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: talk to you next time. A couple of Let me 877 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: throw a couple of things out there. Uh, you know, 878 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: Tim brought up Josh Morrow. Um. I'm anxious to see Morrow. 879 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: He He's one tough dude. I'm telling you you can't 880 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: have enough tough dudes on defense. And I think Morrow 881 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: will add to that. I think he'll He'll be a 882 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: good addition. Um. And and John, I don't know what 883 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: scale don Tidon stepped on to get up to one 884 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: seventy five. But that that h but I think you 885 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: had the write one. Oh my gosh, Andre Hopkins against Dion. 886 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: But hey, you know what, we're gonna be playing some 887 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: guys who I guess we call them back ups this week. 888 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: We're going to have to We're forced into doing it. 889 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: But you know, Lorenzo Carter, d W Web, John Greco, 890 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: you're on an NFL roster for a reason. You can play. 891 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: You're also a backup for a reason because you can play, 892 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: so and we're paying you. Get out there and make 893 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: a play. Come on, d W, make a play, and 894 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: I think they'll come I think they'll come through. I 895 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: think they'll come through. You know, it doesn't have to 896 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: be a lot of plays, guys, you know, just tip 897 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: a ball, d W defensive pass, maybe get a tip. 898 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, Carter put some pressure on this guy. Greco 899 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: handled that nose tackle, uh, and you get to start 900 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: next week. Um. I think I think the key to 901 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: the game is really gonna be how well each center 902 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: handles the nose tackle. Snacks has got to dominate. He's 903 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: got a Domino eight enough where we literally shut down 904 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: that run game down. Nick Barton is a little light 905 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: in the rear end land and so I think Snacks 906 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: is a real good chance to do with that. Yeah, 907 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. And we shut down 908 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: put Watson second and eight, second and nine, go get him. 909 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: Let Lorenzo Carter loose. Um and uh, you know, I 910 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: want to see him play more downs. I want to 911 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: see Carter play more downs. Carter makes things. Things happen 912 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: when Carter is on the field. Things happen, good things 913 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: happen when Carter is on the field. And you know, 914 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Grego has got a handle that guy Reader, you mentioned him, 915 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: he's a pretty good player. But if we have to 916 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: devote two players the block and Reader, oh my goodness, 917 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be the second and nine guys. Yeah, 918 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know so, Um and listen, nothing like 919 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: senior leadership. You know, we got a senior guy tying 920 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: it all together on that offensive line. Um. I'm I'm 921 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty confident. I'm feeling pretty calm finite about this. Um, 922 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question. You know, 923 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad Evan Ingram is on this team. He's 924 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: he's a terrific player now and he's going to be 925 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: a terrific player. I'm a little you know. One of 926 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: the things we talked about with Ingram ever since the 927 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: draft is nobody's going to be able to keep up 928 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: with him with his speed. And certainly he showed some 929 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: speed straight down the middle, straight line speed general score 930 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: that I touchdown on Sunday, But jeez, I you know, 931 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: I want to see him get to the get to 932 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: the edge, run away from somebody. You know, if you 933 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: catch the ball short of the marker, you know, get 934 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: to the get to the first del marker. I just don't. 935 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: I don't see the perceived speed translating yet, you guys, 936 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: Can you guys comment on that. I'm not sure I 937 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: call it speed. I think there has been a lack 938 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: of explosiveness, and I'll use that term instead because I 939 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: think that's what you're looking for, make the explosive play 940 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: once you get your hands on the football. And I 941 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: don't think we've necessarily seen Ingram do that yet. I 942 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: think that's fair well, because I label him as an 943 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: athletic player. I don't know necessarily if I would label 944 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: him as a blazing speed Odell Beckham, say Kwan Barkley 945 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: type of player. But but I get I I understand 946 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: the point you're making. The point you're making is also 947 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, even if he is short of the marker, 948 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: can he force somebody to miss too then pick up 949 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: the first down? But what what I will counter that with, 950 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: saying Lennon is I don't view Evan Ingram with the 951 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: skill set that Beckham and Barkley have. But Beam and Barkley, 952 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: they catch the ball short of the marker, they have 953 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: the ability to force a guy to miss. Evan Ingram 954 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: is the type of player that, because of his athleticism, 955 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 1: he can out jump you, he can win a jump 956 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: ball with you, and he can maybe beach in the 957 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: end zone. I don't look at him as a guy 958 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: that's necesarily going to force the opposing defenders to miss. 959 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: So you know that what you're maybe anticipating him to do, 960 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 1: I just don't necessarily see that as part of is strange. 961 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: And then if you think about it, you don't really 962 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: see Jimmy Graham make people missing the old backfield and 963 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: guys like that, you know what I mean, they use 964 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: their athleticism to get open, not necessarily meet guys miss 965 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: once they have their hand on the ball. Yeah, but 966 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, but still I don't want to be certain one. 967 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if they catches that ball short about the 968 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: first time, get to the first town marker, don't catch 969 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: the ball short, run your route past the marker. I 970 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 1: think that's your bigger thing. Okay, that's always a good idea, 971 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: but still I think I think, you know, I thought 972 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: England would be the kind of guy and LANs You 973 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: and I talked about it after the Jacksonville game. There 974 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: was one play we were talking about Miles shacks. It 975 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: was to play where Ingram blocked Black the last and 976 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: I made a comment that jack came across the field. 977 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: Miles Jackson came across the field and made the tackle 978 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: on Ingram. You know, I think back on that play, 979 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: Ingram's got to get the first down there. I don't 980 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: care how fast Miles stacks. Miles Jackson pretty athletic line. 981 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: You know he's not going up against Joe Schmo there. 982 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: But but I get your point, you know, speaking to Jacksonville, 983 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to steer this conversation of the director, 984 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: but you know how you came up with the phrase. 985 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: You know, you're not putting a roster together to beat 986 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think it's time. I think it's 987 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: time to edit that phrase, don't you think considering what 988 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: happened earlier this season? Line? Absolutely, And we had a 989 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: prime example of it on Sunday. Remember with a minute 990 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: and thirty to go against Shacksonville Jacksonville punt team, and 991 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: we put the kid back there, not Beckham, And a 992 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: lot of people say, you know, why don't you play 993 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: Beckham in that situation Sunday? Beckham? What's up? Keeping well? 994 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: But keeping mind? Kalen Clay and I think that's a 995 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: prime example. Um, I'm not saying we you know, if 996 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose a game, you lose a game 997 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: to a team in the other conference. Now, I prefer 998 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: you win the game to home game. But if you 999 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: follow what I'm saying, But someday, I think Schermer I 1000 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: think he was bitterly disappointed they lost that game. And 1001 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: I just think he thought we were gonna win that 1002 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: football game and he I think he was terribly disappointed. 1003 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean you could tell him the way he was playing. 1004 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean Beckham on the hands team, not just one play, 1005 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't the two on site kicks? Yeah, Lenn local Len, 1006 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 1: I I agree A pent and thanks for the call. 1007 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: And on Sunday, we we always we always loved hearing 1008 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: fromt of you and the thing that that gotten me 1009 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: and I was in the press conference room, Lends you 1010 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: couldn't see it. You're back in the studio. Did you 1011 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: hear during the press conference? It was almost like a 1012 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: little banging sound in the back. I went back and 1013 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: watched because you had told me that after we spoke, 1014 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: and then I went back and watched the video the compressor, 1015 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: Like in between questions, Sherman was just standing at the 1016 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: podium and kind of absent mindedly, just kind of doing this. 1017 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen him do that before. I'm pretty sure 1018 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: he was really annoyed. And that was in the Cowboys game, 1019 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: just because I know Lim was bringing up the Jaguars game. 1020 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to confuse. I just think Shermer's 1021 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: a guy that's not going to let his emotions show. 1022 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: And I know New Yorkers don't like that. They always 1023 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: complain about it. You can go back to all the 1024 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: coaches where they're like, oh, he never shows any emotion. 1025 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: I want to see him getting mad and throw stuff 1026 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: and do all this other crap. That's not from what 1027 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: I've seen so far, I don't think that's gonna be 1028 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: what Pat Schremer is. And it's fine as long as 1029 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: the team wins. So don't don't lose your mind and 1030 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: think that he's not letting these guys know they're playing 1031 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: poorly and and as upset after losses because he's not 1032 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: throwing stuff. It's just not his personality. It's not how 1033 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: he wants to present themselves well. And also John, sometimes 1034 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: how people conduct themselves with the media. And I'm not 1035 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: saying that Pat Shermer is Dr Cheko and Mr Hyde here, 1036 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: but what you show to the media and how you 1037 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: hand yourself professionally doesn't mean that you don't get a 1038 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: little worked up with your players. So the point is 1039 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: when fans get irritating, like I wanted to see some 1040 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: fire out of the coach, that doesn't mean that he's 1041 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: not showing emotion when he's in the locker room. Perfect example, 1042 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: people make fun of Jason Garrett all the time because 1043 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: and he's the clapper. He never says anything. If you 1044 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: go back and watch that Amazon series from last offseason, 1045 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: that that that they did with Dallas during the regular season, Yeah, nah, 1046 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: he's dropping f bombs left and right. He's yelling at people. 1047 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: Trust me, what you see out publicly is not usually 1048 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: what the guy is like behind the scenes. Well, and 1049 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: the other thing. I mean, listen, this is not necessarily 1050 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: a whole breakdown of Jason Garrett. But while we're on 1051 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: the topic, if you understand the history of Jason Garrett 1052 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: to the guy has been around coaching his entire life. John, 1053 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: his father was a longtime coach, his brother was a 1054 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: long time coach and is currently a coach at Lafayette. 1055 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: John Garrett. Yeah, I mean that's why I said, you 1056 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: gotta know a person. And Sherman too. He's been around 1057 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: coaching and different personalities his entire career. So I don't 1058 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: necessarily buy that. Alright, we got three calls. I have 1059 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: to get off exactly a two thirty guys, So if 1060 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: I rush you a little bit, I apologize. I was 1061 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: trying to get let off. Was hard, It's always hard. 1062 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to Attacus in the Polkados. He's up next, 1063 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: not Atticus. Hey, guys, how are you doing today? Alright, 1064 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: A couple of quick things. I just don't understand why everybody, 1065 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get why you would trash Flowers in the past, 1066 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: but not for nothing. Flowers has he started off sloppy 1067 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: in the first game, but he really held his own 1068 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: in that Dallas game, and he and Will Hernandez have 1069 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: probably been the better playing too offensive lineman that we 1070 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: have had. And we gave all this money to a 1071 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: mommy and being Solder, and I still think that they're 1072 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: going to get it together and developing to being a 1073 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: more cohesive unit. But the Flowers alone, the kids taken 1074 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: a beating for the ineptitude that we're seeing across the 1075 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: entire line, and I don't think it's fair, and I want, 1076 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: let's not make it out that you gave patrickal Mammy 1077 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: Nate Solder. Okay, those are two very different level contracts. 1078 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: They're very I do understand that. But when you hear 1079 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: the level of criticism that's given out, it's not given 1080 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: out to those guys. And they did get paid from 1081 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: nice contracts. I guess. Look, I agree Flowers has gotten 1082 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: the blunt of it. We've got a lot of patrickal 1083 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: Mammy calls too, we have Yeah, yeah, right, I mean 1084 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: he signed he signed a three year de so you 1085 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: know for fifteen million reports. I said, oh, mommy signed 1086 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: a three year deal reportedly worth fifteen million. It's not 1087 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: as if you know the million a year or some 1088 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying the amount of criticism just 1089 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been balanced. What else? And then the other thing is, um, 1090 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: you know you got these other people talking about now, 1091 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: don't you You imagine you didn't get Sam Donald. I 1092 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: think that with Eli's experience and ability to be able 1093 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 1: to check out of plays and change the protections, Donald 1094 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: would have thrown three picks and been sack ten times 1095 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: in that past game could have been though. I also 1096 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: think that if there's something be sets of effort man, 1097 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, like I was, I've watched every player that 1098 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: last game. And this also leads up into this game 1099 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: against Houston because I still believe in our team and 1100 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: I did. I'm sorry, no, we're listening, you know. I 1101 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: believe going eight and e was a good mark to 1102 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: strive for for us this year. As as discouraging as 1103 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: that loss was last week, I'm still encouraged because I 1104 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: think that as the team gets an opportunity to continue 1105 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: to jail, they will play better. But effort counts for something. 1106 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: Barkley never gave up on any play that he played 1107 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: in Kerry Win is just an unbelievable effort. Guy Collins 1108 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: and Snacks and there are a few others. But when 1109 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: you look at the tape, you see some players who 1110 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why, it just seems like the effort, 1111 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: their cup of efforts seems to spell pretty quickly compared 1112 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: to some of the other players. Not just like to 1113 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: see that level of effort across the board. Um, but 1114 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: I believe in our new coaches. I believe that we 1115 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: will still have many bright spots this future of this season. 1116 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: I just would like to see more effort across the 1117 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: board and leave flowers alone, all right. I appreciate good stuff. Yeah, 1118 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm always very hesitant to question guy's effort. I just 1119 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: don't like doing unless it's something where you see it 1120 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: on tape and he's just sitting there and he's watching, 1121 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going there. I prefer to the term be 1122 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: the lack of execution. Yeah, I think there's a lot 1123 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: of fans they watch players John and you know, they 1124 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: don't get over, they miss a tackle, they don't get 1125 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: their arms wrapped up. Is that effort like I don't 1126 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: care or execute or maybe you're just not a good 1127 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: enough athlete to make the play whatever very possible. In 1128 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: New Jersey. He's up next. He has Hey s from 1129 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: how it's good to hear from you and get to 1130 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: your point, man, where we're a long one time. I'm right, 1131 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: I took this up. I was hearing. I was listening 1132 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: to you, Johnny. You was talking about Dante Dion and 1133 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: I used to play corner and I'm kind of shut. 1134 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: But see, there's techniques that short people use that are 1135 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: able to give them a certain type of advantage because 1136 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: they have low center gravity, and one of those are 1137 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: being able to steer the receiver in the direction you 1138 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: want him to go, so he could have the help. 1139 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: So if Dante Dion and if he plays Hopkins in 1140 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: the inside, and he knows that he has inside help, 1141 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: he pushes them there because the linebackers there. If he 1142 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: likes that he does, if he knows that he doesn't, 1143 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: then what he has to do is just try and 1144 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: be able to gain the angle to make Hopkins go 1145 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: a different way. See, there's certain techniques, and I know 1146 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: he's short and he could use his height, but he's 1147 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: still able to gain certain type of advantages over Hopkins 1148 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: if he uses it. And I think that the defense 1149 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: as a whole, they need to tackle, they need to 1150 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: gain tackle, they need to wrap up, and the offensive rhyme. 1151 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: They doesn't need to go back to the basics because 1152 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: that does. They need to simplify, go back to the basics, 1153 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,760 Speaker 1: and and they should be fine. So I appreciate you, fellas, 1154 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: and I listened to your comments up there. Thank Yeah, 1155 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: you're right, Dion can do stuff like that. Once the 1156 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: balls in the air, though, all bets are off. But 1157 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: it's not just height, and that's why I brought up 1158 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: Dion's weight. I mean, Hopkins, it's gonna be hard for 1159 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: him to steer Hopkins anywhere. Hopkins is gonna go where 1160 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: he wants, got a much bigger frame. Yeah, and I 1161 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: think that's the issue. It's it's the strength advantage as 1162 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: much as it is. I mean, how do you think 1163 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: an kuom Bolden won all those years? You can win 1164 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: with speed strength, and it really is a good route 1165 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: runner too. So yeah, I agree, there are things Dion 1166 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: can do hoss, but he's at a really big disadvantage 1167 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: if he gets caught on that matchup. Well, and honest, 1168 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: the other thing you have to understand this, Dion only 1169 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: has those first five yards to work with. After the 1170 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: first five yards, forget the end zone or the jump ball, John, 1171 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: All bets are off after the first five yards. So 1172 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: if he doesn't win the battle of the line of scrimmage, 1173 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: Hopkins is gonna take him wherever he wants. And hopkins 1174 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: athleticism is through the roof. I mean, I've seen him, John. 1175 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: There could be a ball that's underthrown and he will 1176 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: jump over the guy and claim the football back. Very unique, 1177 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: Adam and Columbus Ohio or wrap us up, Adam. He 1178 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: got sixty seconds? Yeah, all right? Um, Well, you know, 1179 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: I think the frustration you're hearing from a lot of 1180 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: fans about the on line is the fact that it 1181 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: almost looks like we regressed a little bit. You know. 1182 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna take some time to get the 1183 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: commune and get into poperinghe when we get it fixed, 1184 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: get some coach and get some communication and able to 1185 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: make draftic fixes very quickly. I don't if you guys 1186 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: saw that that Brian Balding or breakdown on some of 1187 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: the on line breakdowns. I enjoy when I can see 1188 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: film broken down like that. So I'm an expert, you know, 1189 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm a layman, so it's it's it's interesting for me 1190 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: and helps me have a more educated approach to watching 1191 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: the game. One play I noticed where Taco Charlton came 1192 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: off the right and they said the miscommunication of either 1193 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: Stewart or Solder. Stewart got blown up by Shaun Lee 1194 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,479 Speaker 1: on that play, and it looked like if Charlton didn't 1195 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 1: get to Eli, it was certainly going to be Shawn Lee. 1196 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: Is Stewart a blocker is playing? Was always a little 1197 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: of a head scratcher to me, And it seems like 1198 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's not paying dividends like you hope. I know 1199 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: it's early, but no, it's a good question. He is 1200 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: supposed to be a good pass protector and he's the 1201 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: guy that's strong and he should be able to do it. 1202 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: And thanks for the call. We appreciate you being brief. 1203 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: Calls back. I'll makes you get more time next time. 1204 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, but yeah, I mean you wonder I've 1205 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: seen a couple of pass pro situations where I thought 1206 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: he would do better. Um. I think that's fair. Oh, 1207 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: he was asked to do that in Carolina, so it's 1208 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: not as if the Giants are putting him in a 1209 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: position that is unknown for him. I mean him and 1210 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams were two veteran backs. They rotated. Stewart was 1211 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: in on passing downs and you know that I think 1212 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: goes back to also the communication between the offensive line 1213 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: and the running back and so forth. But I mean 1214 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: the play he may be referred to, I have to 1215 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: personally go look back. I remember Taco Charlton coming off untouched. 1216 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember necessarily him engaging Shawn Lee. No, so 1217 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: that's the play Stewart blocked Lee inside and nobody blocked 1218 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: Charles Charlton. Okay, I just need I wasn't necessarily focusing 1219 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: on Stewart based on my memory inside that I'm back 1220 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: and look at that, I'm focusing on more of Charlton. 1221 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: So I mean that just is maybe an example of listen, 1222 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: Shaun Lee, who I think is one of the best 1223 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL, getting the better of an experience 1224 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: running back to Lance good times. Absolutely tomorrow, you and Datinous, 1225 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: Russe and Datino, that's right, be russwitcht Wednesday to Friday, 1226 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: Russ and Datino tomorrow. 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