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Speaker 1: My guest there the show to day is You're Londa Ross.

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Speaker 1: She's an actress, writer, director, and activist who was starting

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Speaker 1: Netflix to Get Down, which I enjoyed, abs how ABC

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Speaker 1: is How to Get Away with Murdered Lifetimes When Own

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Speaker 1: starting in a very popular Showtime hit drama, The Shy

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Speaker 1: Move by personal Relationships and our character. On the show,

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Speaker 1: she got involved with Chicago's w OC Breast Cancer Survivor

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Speaker 1: community and inspired over one hundred thousand dollars in donations

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Speaker 1: from the Fineberg Foundation, the three grassroots organizations in Chicago

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Speaker 1: this season on the Shore, the show deals deeply into

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Speaker 1: many joys and complications of black love. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation master Class, the expert on the show

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Speaker 1: because she's head highs that she has had loads. You're

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Speaker 1: Londa Ross. How are you doing in London? First of all,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Make Conversation mastically. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing to day? I don't know. I'm here

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Speaker 1: in l a um working, so that's great, which is

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Speaker 1: really great. You know, I did just just set back

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Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty. How did you I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: have that. You share that with my fans? How did

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Speaker 1: you deal with that? A whole uncertainty period and the

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Speaker 1: being a successful actor, writer and director. You know, it

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Speaker 1: And when things started to shut down, you know, nobody

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Speaker 1: so you know, I just took the time to you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, knowing that there's no into this that we

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Speaker 1: And you know, that time went by, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: That's a long time. It's a long long time now.

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Speaker 1: You know. Interesting thing about you as an actress is

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. And Chicago

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