WEBVTT - Conversations About Integration 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Seillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:22.440 low blasses, Malone. So this is a special No Seilings. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:29.800 I have brought the podcast brilliance of No Selings together 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:36.120 on one platform. I'm so excited. I'm not perfectly excited 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.960 because we're missing Britain. That just don't feel right. We 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:45.560 got my boy d D who always supplies the fire. Yes, 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.880 Carner boy, you'd be having us over here, faded crazy 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.360 and this is this is how he gets away with 0:00:54.440 --> 0:01:01.720 it because where you know, yeah, stacking the fence. You 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:08.840 feel me. I'll be like, wait, what so Pete just 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.920 flew in town. Yeah, from Florida, Florida. It's the first 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.000 time I felt cold there and over a year. That's 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.880 why they get the worst hurricane. I spoiled by the weather, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.000 So the hurricanes and earthquake when it's like that, I 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.240 will happily. I would trade being in the middle of 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.080 a hurricane over walking to the car in like thirty 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.000 eight degree weather in an hour, all day long, all 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:38.520 the long, all day love um category one, category one. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.560 So what's the deal you got this crazy ass thing? 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.120 I don't quite know what that is? But something burner made. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:51.560 That's probably bad. Yeah, that was excellent. It's forbidden fruits 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.920 that ship all purply and ship I saw it, look 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:04.360 all purply purple wheels. It's nice. It's nice. You scared gold? 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.360 How is he? How how are you? You know? Being 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.960 an influence here and you don't even smoke it? He 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.639 gets he influences. He doesn't get influenced exactly, I do 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:23.800 all the Yeah, there you go, pe got it? Okay, okay. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.440 Plus this is like a deep conversation. So this tastes 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.960 really good. This is really good delicious, Yes it is. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.399 It's very tasty and very fruitful and taste you could 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.400 taste the fruit. Taste the fruit, you really can. It's 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.959 really good. Which fruit is that you could taste? Oh 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:51.600 my gosh, um. It tastes like some kind of citrus. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:58.360 M he tastes the oranges in there. Citrus is oranges 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.120 and when it is to be a little bit of grapefruit. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.440 Oh but it's sweet, but you do taste of citrus sweet. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.440 It tastes very clean and very like do they drop 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.320 orange or something to do that? How do they get 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.440 the citrusy flavor? This is nice? What shout out to 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.360 the grower. Some strange just come through with more of 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.480 a citrusy tone, like O gs have a citrusy tone. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:28.959 Just genetics, I guess all genetics and that's called what again, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.520 forbidden fruit? Oh yeah, forbidden fruit need to be hot 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:41.600 because conversation serious. We are. Don't worry, We're freakinging high. Okay, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.960 So I had a sweet tea on the way in 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:55.960 Sweet had a soda. Fucking shuda. Um. So what's been 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:02.840 on my mind is why the fuck gosh okay, let 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.960 me back down. Thank you, thank you, because you are day. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.839 You gotta come like that's serious. That's how I thought, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:18.880 And I'm frustrated. Um pete. Why did we integrate? Why 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.360 did What was the push for integration? And you this 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.120 is right up your ali, this is something we would 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.039 normally talk about. I think that in the time, the 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.919 push for integration was the fact that you had a 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:38.320 hamstrung portion of the economy that, to expedite growth, needed 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.320 to integrate with with with a faster moving, more robust 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:49.480 sector of the population's economy. That makes sense. The only 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:56.640 problem with it is it allows you to take certain 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.159 people to that economy because you still have have those 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:07.560 same fund up water fonts. But my whole complain about 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.400 it is right. If you don't take away the people 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.839 that can integrate into this economy, they are forced to 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:20.680 build their own society for sure. And and that was happening. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.320 There was a pretty good vertical trajectory of growth in 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:29.359 the first half of the twentieth century. That I don't 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.040 there's different opinions as to how, how and why that 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:39.440 flattened out. Um some people. I don't think that integration 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:44.760 really damaged that so much as all the all the 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.160 goings on that happened with it from like all the 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.000 social programs hitting at once and impacts that had three, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.200 four or five dominoes away from you know, ground zero. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.360 That's fair. What do you think about integration? But do 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.279 you know what integration is? Rich do? But I do 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.039 not understand. And I didn't understand what. No, I didn't 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:13.919 understand it. That was really what the fund is Pete 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:21.920 talking about. I'm thinking prison integration, So maybe I have missed. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.000 It wasn't prison integration. No, go ahead, Pete, give it 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:31.480 to them in and everyday term. It just means white people. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.000 Let me give it to you the way I would 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.160 give it to you. White people had the majority of 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.080 the economy, so people wanted to integrate. Right, You integrate 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:45.200 because you want everybody else to grow their own economy 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.520 as well. So you put them where the economy is booming, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.880 so you shift them over here. That's integration. Integration is 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.080 the picture of Jerry Jones standing at the door and 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.200 the black kids is trying to get into high school, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.159 and the kids is stopping them. They integrating a high school. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.640 Red Lining is when they would stop certain black people 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.200 or people that were undesirable at that time to white 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.680 people from moving into their neighborhoods and say, okay, we're 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.600 not going to let them move into this neighborhood or something. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.080 That's so, then you integrate neighborhoods. You start bringing black 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:24.600 folks into already existing powerful economy. Okay. And so you're 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.040 saying that you don't think that there should have been integration. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.239 It's a horrible idea. So it's only a good idea 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.280 to shut people up. It's a horrible idea for a 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:39.640 mass community because what happens is you start taking one person, right, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.880 one successful person, and then you move them over here 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.720 with these folks and they're not forced to build for 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.240 their own social group as well, not just they're like 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.040 somehow we try, we really want to believe. Well, I 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.360 think me and PD agree with that there are economy groups. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.240 I mean, I do think there's a bit of bigotry 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 at even at that well, but most for the most part, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.920 it's it's more like classism. Yeah, Like, you know, there 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.920 was a lot of weird politics. I was listened to 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.720 a podcast the other day about the history of the 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.600 Central Valley and how like the Oklahoma diasporaate, which is 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.960 a very sophisticated way of saying, a bunch of poor, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.680 white trash people from Oklahoma moving into the Central Valley 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.600 and everybody hated him. Like the Mexicans who lived there 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.560 didn't like them. The white people have been farming there 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.640 for didn't like them, and they just kind of like 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.800 tried to exclude them out of every possible area of 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.880 commerce that they could. They didn't want to deal with them. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.760 So and you know, they didn't have high levels of education, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.400 they were kind of roughnecks, whatever the hell, so just 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.760 kind of were different. So it makes sense, right, So 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.760 these conversations make sense, right, you fun with sports d 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.360 It's why, like I'm said where a Dion Sanders right 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.360 where he's He made a lot of promises like I'm 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.960 not one of the people that's on Dion Dion May 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.679 a lot of promises. Came in, used a press release 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.440 and a press conference to announce he was coming to 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.280 be the savior of h b c Us. That was 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.840 what he said. That's what he said. It's not what 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.480 I said, It's not what I think. This is what 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.000 he said. So he came in on like the cloud, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.720 like Jesus like. And then he actually referenced God, God 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.920 sent me to save HBCUs, not even j as you, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.479 not even just Jackson State. He said, h b c Us, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.880 I'm God sent me to save him. And fast forward 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.720 three years later, he takes a job that pays shot 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:41.280 him though silly ten times, failed fourteen times the money Colorado. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.280 So the community is mad, right or what not? The 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.040 community that the dits sport is upset right, the whole 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.000 diaspard because he said what he said out of his mouth, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.800 So people are holding him to that. Now, was it 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.199 a realistic thing when he said it? Dobbly not. It 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:07.760 would require some serious, serious serious like an industrial mind. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.360 You would have to have a really serious plan, like 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.360 not even intellect at that point. You would need to 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.439 really be prepared for that type of task. It's not impossible, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.720 it's just tough. So I get why he took the 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.360 next move, and it probably was always to make the 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.360 next move. But the problem is he sold everybody on 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.040 this idea of like, hey, I'm going back to save 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.440 black people. That's what it translates to. So when black 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.600 people are disappointed, everybody upset. Why is a man dean? 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.319 He took a better job to bear himself, bitch that 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.560 nigga met rich forever and he didn't go to an 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.960 HBC out of high school himself as a player. No, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:51.920 mhm you So I understand that. So I do understand 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.400 why the diaspor is upset of him because of what 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.040 he said out of his mouth. Now, there are some 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.319 people that just feel a certain way, but most people 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.360 know that he said so many things, and that's why 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.400 we started rooting for him and paying attention to him 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.640 in the first place. So it's when you actually monetize 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.880 the movement, and that's what he did. He marketed the 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.920 movement for a personal game. I'm not saying he didn't 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.720 have any effect I'm sure there's some good things that 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.560 happened over those two or three years, but because of 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.720 what he said out of his mouth, motherfucker's is disappointed. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.000 They want to hold him accountable, like what happening, like 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.559 what's up? You know? In his defense, he lost money 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.680 on that, but but but it was never he never 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.520 mentioned money when Guy sent him. He did say God 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:39.320 sent here to get He lost his you know, CBS contract. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.960 He wasn't on you know, NFL today and all that 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.520 stuff all the time. He would would probably paid him, honestly, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.360 more than the coaching job. So he took an l 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.880 financially to go do that, and it did do very 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.880 well for Jackson States, visibility, whatever else. It's a challenging thing. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.559 If he had probably stayed two more years to where 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.880 so a couple of really good recruits he got could 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.520 go to the NFL, you have concept that would have 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.000 probably been that he could have turned the corner there. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.600 The issue is, if you're gonna have some criticism about Dion, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.160 you have to have criticisms about all the black blue 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.840 chip players that go to not HBCU schools, because the 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.920 five that chose to go play for Dion, they weren't 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.679 choosing to go to an HBC. They were choosing to 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.800 play for Dion and all the other teams in his 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.880 league got none of those guys. But but this is 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.960 my thing, right, and this is why you can't blame 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.800 the blame. You can't. I wouldn't blame what I'm saying this, 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.240 this this separation is they didn't come in with that mentality. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.319 They came in to play for Prime. Deon Sanders is 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.360 prime time coach Prime. They came in to play for 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.160 coach Prime. Prime came in because God sent him to 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:56.000 save the h b c U s eight months. So 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.960 the new job that he got, because I did see 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.000 where he got a new coach. Whereas so it's like 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:09.720 one black like the football film, he was like, Oh, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.640 that's a lot of black people that need this big 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:16.480 old picture. You definitely had the negative. So people are furious, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.800 you know what what I'm saying. And it just made me think, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:24.440 like I think about that situation, um and and I'm 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.319 wanted a few people. I don't complain to Pete a 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.760 lot because Pete is white, right, So I don't want 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.600 to just slander black people to Pete because Pete already 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.880 hear enough black people slander. I'm sure no matter you know, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.440 whatever's going on as white present, I'm sure he's heard 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:44.080 black people slander. But my my issue is that's why 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.720 I hate integration, because I have a hard criticism for 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:53.680 successful Black people are wealthy elite, which I don't believe 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.520 more black people wealthy. This is a whole another story. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.079 This is a whole another story. But they got something. Okay, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.560 if they were forced, like if they wasn't complaining about 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.920 how messed up our water found was and how nice 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.160 the white folk water found was and said, Okay, well 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.439 we're just gonna make our water foun nice. So if 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:13.920 let's say, if we were still on the water found 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.000 system in two thousand two, and jay Z looking at 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.800 the white person water found, he like, man, I don't 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.560 want to drink out this water found for that the 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.720 black colorful water found it looked crazy. Jay Z has 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.920 the kind of money, he has the kind of money 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.280 where he could put a new water fountain there. So 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.880 then when he's drinking his water, he's drinking out the 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.000 correct fountain. But everybody else that looked like him, may 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.960 come from his issues, get to drink out of nice 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:42.800 and water Fountain. If if you decide like, hey, I'm 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.600 going to upbuild it. I can't get into I can't 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.120 get into Beverly Hills. They're not letting me over there. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.480 They're not letting me in Orange County. They're not letting 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:57.640 me a newport. So I gotta make paradise right here. Yeah. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.800 I think if you were to look at it as 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:05.960 countries not integrating at all, looks like the Soviet Union. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:14.400 It's an economic challenge integrating but not but but maintaining 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:23.240 like a pretty rigid autonomy over your entity. That that's China, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.360 you know, because China, before they integrated, they were starting 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.600 you gotta use regular work because we're like, what are 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.560 you talking about. I know China's like, um, I don't know. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.640 If it's like China got like like when communists China 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.960 and Mao Sate Tongue took it over, they were only 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.880 like they only dealt with China. They didn't deal with 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.360 anybody else. So they don't do business with anybody else everything. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.960 So he's saying that they stayed to themselves. They didn't 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.720 give any business to anybody else. That's how they build 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.040 the economy based off of doing work for the world 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.480 only through them. And then when they be now so 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.800 once they got all the world's patents and all the 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.240 world's ideas, which is crazy, they will start building everything 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.200 for the whole world. That's how they dug themselves out 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.440 of the poorhouse. Give us your jobs. We're building for 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.640 cheap We have put all our people to work. Yeah 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.720 there's a cheap job. But our people didn't have no 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:20.080 work at first. So now in Mexico, now start starting 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.640 to get better. So people that didn't have any working, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.280 and you know, you start thinking third world looks like 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.040 third world country, like super poor countries. They said, hey, man, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.400 send us all your work. We'll building at pennies on 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.760 the dollar. Pennies on the dollar, and when you have 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.640 nothing is good fucking money. And they created this system 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.440 set up where the government takes care of people. Hey, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.600 we're gonna take care of you. You just work. And 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:49.240 the singular most impactful Jim Crow law in economics senses 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.040 that prevented that model from happening is the one that 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:57.280 is mentioned the least by people ever, and that's the 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.880 minimum wage law, which was implemented purely to prevent that 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:06.000 from taking place. In the South. Mm hmmm, So what 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.119 he's saying is he's saying the problem with this working. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.639 So the reason all of the high dollar people that 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.680 was building everything Americans start taking their business other places 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.080 is because the federal government or different states started raising 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.760 their minimum ways, so ship that you would get done 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.400 for cheap, you have to pay more money. So then 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.159 business owners had to start outsourcing. Well, there was a 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.760 period of time when in the South, black unemployment was 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.280 lowered and white unemployment because you can pay them less 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.919 because they came from the plantation. And then they have 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:43.960 implemented that hard line now because now you need because 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.879 now you need to choose based off of who you 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.440 relate to, who looks like you, who who you think 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.040 is your family. Because that's what I really believe in 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.720 what looks like racism is more or less pretty much. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.640 There's no there's no economic incentive to hire people that 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.120 don't you know what means? That makes sense? All right, 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.119 all right, gotta fund up makes his I know you 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:10.119 look at like the stick class smoking fucking weed. So 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.040 it's like if we're doing like for the project right 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.359 for the ops, like right, we send it out to 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.280 a different country and they do all the labor for 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.159 sense on the dollars? So what sense on the dollars? 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.720 And we over here. It's funny because I hear a 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.959 lot of people in America complaining about what we are 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.360 they building shoes in China for change, like people talking ship. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.399 You hear people say that what is lebrons think about 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.960 them paying the low wages in China for shoes. Bitch, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.240 that ain't a low wage in China. Oh yeah, that is. No, 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:35.800 it's not a low wage in China because you can 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.679 live on it. No, That's why I like in the 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.359 at the Apple thing at the country that the company 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.199 that's else was for Apple. They've been trying to escape. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.560 They're jumping out of windows and running out and trying 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.800 to get the hell out of there. And they're there, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.959 kept on grounds and they just work then till they 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:59.000 freaking die. But you live. That's how it works. That's 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.000 the exchange. The exchange is I'll give you a job 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.199 as a government and a place to live. This is 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.800 not available, so the model we we can be upset 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.680 that the model hasn't changed today, because that's that's a complaint, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.359 right is the model hasn't changed today in China. But 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.159 what if I want China was ship. Poor motherfucker's was homeless, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.160 and they was having famine famine like like more like 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.320 like mass death because of famine sweeping the nation. They 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.120 have figured out a way to feed all of their 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.480 people everybody. So, yeah, you might live eighty years and 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.320 work your ass off and gonna die, but you live 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.240 in somewhere And we really, in theory, have the same 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.119 thing a little different. So do they have a choice. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.960 So they're just so they have to work there if 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:44.600 you want to have a place to live. They are 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:52.080 heavily indentured every like. So there's no like, Okay, I'm 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.480 not working there. It's not you. I mean you could 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.840 not work. No, you aren't allowed to leave the grounds. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.920 What happens if you do? You don't, they'll they'll track 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.600 you down and drag you. Yeah, that sounds like some 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.760 slavery ship to me. I mean, I think from a 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.000 Western way, we look at a lot of things different, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.320 and I think we like to see ourselves as a 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.879 better place. And I understand why, because to some degree 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.840 we do have different things, but I'm not quite sure 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.679 they're better. We try to prolong people's life with the 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.720 bare minimums here. Yeah, yeah, I mean, um, let's say 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.240 you didn't have to work there, where would you live? 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.480 If I was in China with you for short way, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:35.840 you could be They'll pay you a lot of money 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.000 because you can teach English. So it's different. They looking 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.640 for people that teach English. They gotta plan mm hmm. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.560 So but that's my point. So if you're coming from 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:49.520 like uh, if you're coming from a third world situation 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.600 where poverty is crazy like that, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.600 it's different. It's different as hell. So I'm not one 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.240 of the few they'd be like, what China is this? 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:00.880 I'm like, well, they figured out a way to get 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:02.480 their people out of part I wish I can get 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.320 most black people into a place to where they can 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.520 live and own the house and ship. Now Chi, I'm 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.960 not saying China's happening. I'm saying that would be a 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.160 cool goal. I think we had the right idea when 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:16.000 the industrialization when not when the industrialization, when industrial era happened, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.159 I think we was on the right track. We had 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.560 a really solid thing going on. Yeah, I mean, people 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.760 could own a home, you could work, but again people 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.920 complaining and then But I think that was the best 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.120 that's the era. I think about what Trump says, Let's 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:34.080 make America great, that's what he's talking about that eraor 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:39.680 what so what when year is that last? With late 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.320 eighteen to the to the early mentor I think it 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:47.680 would acculmodated in the nineteen twenties, Yeah, where Americans had 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.400 jobs and then as they started to raise minimum ways, 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.320 people are like okay, you know what we can Yeah, 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.520 and probably through like the fifties, also like post World 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.200 War two, there was a lot of growth. Oh yeah, 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:04.960 post because they went bad, like the cars because we 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.160 have it was a lot of people driving, like more 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.879 like Japanese or like not in the fifties now like 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.239 now because you have to buy cheap Okay, it's like 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.600 Walmart is popping because don't nobody got no money, so 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.320 they have the cheapest prices. So but you need somebody 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.960 with cheap prices because nobody got no money. So almost 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.119 like a funked up a circle that just keeps happening, 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.280 like that joint y'all got going. Y'all been high, but 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.720 y'all just keep going. Should just put it out probably 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:36.600 half about four minutes agog to keep going. Yeah, about 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.439 ten hours, y'all have five hours 'all was done for me. 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.959 So yeah, that's that's that's the vicious circle that's happening. 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.600 Like you need it. We love the cheap price at Walmart. 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.800 But we love the cheap price at Walmart because don't 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.040 nobody got no money. The people got money, don't give 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.800 two funks. They're not shopping at Walmart. They're going to Target. 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.879 So that's the thing. The people who really can really 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.960 appreciate to say means would not even shop there. Nobody's 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:12.040 gonna fucking Walmart. So back to the point, Pete, it 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.680 could look like USS or it could look like that, 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.200 but I think it has a chance to even look 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:23.160 different because if people are forced to build their own communities, 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:28.320 force you that's the thing I really think. And this 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.960 is we're telling you this, your white guy, but my nigga, 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.320 you have to force the black elite to do better 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:44.160 by black people, because no matter how you look at it, 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:45.840 it's going to be a space where it's like, why 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:51.960 didn't you could do it too? That's not true. Um, 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.080 we've waited on the government for a long time to 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.160 do what we feel is right. That ship ain't never happened. 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.240 That they won't even apologize. California got a plan. They're 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.280 supposed to give out two hundred and roughly a quarter 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.520 million dollars. Now they want to give them payments. You know, 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.679 niggas gonna die first. Yeah, the state don't have to 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.480 go bankrupt first. I mean, that's they're gonna die real big. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.159 It's huge. But this will be the state that compared 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:19.879 how much the ship they taught taxed the ship out 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.760 of everybody. But the point I'm saying is that's really 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.720 right the thing, and it's not so you have to 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.720 lay the burden on the elite that you empower, like 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.879 white people. Like white people will not celebrate somebody that 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.720