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Speaker 1: wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, December fifteenth, two thousand and seventeenth,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number ninety two. Welcome back to another
Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are live at the SWBC
Speaker 1: more Get Studios at the Star talking a little Cowboys
Speaker 1: football of how's everybody feeling this morning? Great? Good of
Speaker 1: you to join us, Derek, Yeah, yeah, good, I forgot
Speaker 1: you were part of this show. Was still work here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do still work here? How are you? And? Uh?
Speaker 1: Jay King? And I'm ready to Eagleton? Don't you know
Speaker 1: who I am? Is that me? Really? Yeah? You don't
Speaker 1: sound like I was about to say. Do you really
Speaker 1: think I'd do that kind of stuff? Like? Do you
Speaker 1: know who I am? I bet you've said that before.
Speaker 1: I've never said that before. I don't think that much
Speaker 1: of myself like that. How are you? Nick? I'm good. Good,
Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. No one gave you a hard time
Speaker 1: about missing the show yesterday because they didn't really notice
Speaker 1: or care. That's not I've had something to do with
Speaker 1: being here for the first two that's true. Yeah, good point,
Speaker 1: good point. You only missed one day, that is big
Speaker 1: a deal. But this week you're at forty plus, Like
Speaker 1: only one of the four people here takes the time
Speaker 1: to like keep track of what day, what episode it is,
Speaker 1: and like you know all that, you know, have your
Speaker 1: own sign off and your own greeting and all that.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, do it with flair man. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, let's tuck some Cowboys football. How
Speaker 1: many pieces of flair? Thirty three, thirty seven? It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Catch me up on injuries, what's going on with those
Speaker 1: uh those inside? Okay, Um, you did not participation for
Speaker 1: three you know yesterday when we did the show with
Speaker 1: Brian and I've had a good feeling yesterday that David
Speaker 1: Irving would practice, and he did not. He did not.
Speaker 1: So that's really that's that's what I'm looking at as
Speaker 1: far as like really interesting developments. I think I feel
Speaker 1: like the writing is probably on the Wall that Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick's not quite ready, especially given that the secondary has
Speaker 1: played well, no sense in rushing him back. James Hannah
Speaker 1: upgraded to limited lyle Collins and Tyrn Smith both did
Speaker 1: something yesterday, so uh, you know, Bryce Butler, same thing.
Speaker 1: Like you kind of get the feeling that everything's sort
Speaker 1: of rounding into shape except for your starting defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Have you guys talked to anybody about the concussion Eddie sustained?
Speaker 1: And I mean it seems to be kind of lingering
Speaker 1: a bit. It's now into the second week. I know,
Speaker 1: all concussions are different. I'm dealing with that at home
Speaker 1: right now. The concussions are different and and they don't
Speaker 1: always progress the same way. They're not always the same way. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Rico Gathers, who we saw getting a concussion back can
Speaker 1: training camp, ended up in ir and still is not
Speaker 1: practicing fully with the team or whatever. So have you
Speaker 1: guys talk to anybody Is this one of those that's
Speaker 1: just like, is it always just a situation where you
Speaker 1: wait and see or they thinking that maybe this is
Speaker 1: a worse concussion than than others that they've seen. Have
Speaker 1: you heard anything that suggests, you know, what his status
Speaker 1: really is like long term here. I think the only
Speaker 1: thing we've really heard was that he was making progress,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean anything if it was started out
Speaker 1: really really bad. So I'm sure Rico's made progress. So
Speaker 1: you know, I got the I got the sense that
Speaker 1: he would probably play this week earlier this week. I
Speaker 1: don't feel that way anymore, right because he's not practicing.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how I felt. I kind of mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy that takes him, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty much a nude picture of himself and puts it
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you know, when he's not concussed. And so
Speaker 1: it's what I'm saying, is is that never taking a
Speaker 1: nude picture of yourself and put it on Instagram, you're
Speaker 1: saying you have I'm just asking, like he made it
Speaker 1: something like that was such a weird a MySpace thing.
Speaker 1: You did it on MySpace, but never on Instagram. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, it's kind of crazy. He's a different cat,
Speaker 1: that's okay. Trying to figure out if he's concussed or
Speaker 1: not might not be the easiest thing to do, and
Speaker 1: that may be the problem here that they're like, we
Speaker 1: don't have a good base. We don't really know. I
Speaker 1: wonder if I mean, you know, it's the guy that
Speaker 1: was looking for his nipple ring at practice lost. He's
Speaker 1: a different cat. There's no doubt I like David like you.
Speaker 1: I just don't like David Irving. I don't like you
Speaker 1: like he's the best he is. But I wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: there's no I mean, he played with a concussion. That's
Speaker 1: what he did. I mean he did. It's not like
Speaker 1: he took a knock and exited and got evaluated like
Speaker 1: he And that's the other part to it, too, is
Speaker 1: that I guess you didn't see a moment in the
Speaker 1: game when, like you know, sometimes you see a guy
Speaker 1: you we saw Rico get hit and and we were like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that was a major hit. And and so
Speaker 1: it didn't surprise anybody. I don't think now, as long
Speaker 1: as he's been I was probably still surprising. But but
Speaker 1: he didn't surprise anybody that that was something that was
Speaker 1: gonna take a while. I don't remember that moment in
Speaker 1: again in the game when David Irving, like when I
Speaker 1: saw a hit and I was like, oh wow, no,
Speaker 1: well problem, I guess, Well my point was gonna be,
Speaker 1: is you know, didn't. I didn't. I saw him delivered
Speaker 1: to somebody else. I didn't see him take the hit.
Speaker 1: Was there a like that? Yes, he landed on his
Speaker 1: back in that game, and I mean he he had
Speaker 1: a hard time getting off the field. I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be out right then, but he did come back.
Speaker 1: But I know exactly that was that the one in
Speaker 1: the Washington It was in the Washington game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in the Washington game because he came back
Speaker 1: later and hit Cousins and then knocked him into Lawrence
Speaker 1: earlier in that game. So this was before the hit on,
Speaker 1: This was before the sack. Yeah, okay, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: I mean not Rogers. Isn't good. I mean, obviously we
Speaker 1: know this isn't a good situation because but he did
Speaker 1: the play that I think happened on he he got
Speaker 1: kind of flipped around and he landed up on his
Speaker 1: neck and back, and he had a hard time getting
Speaker 1: off the field. But but I my point was, I
Speaker 1: wonder if they're being even more cautious, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's not like you took the hit and then immediately
Speaker 1: went into evaluation and you were done like he played
Speaker 1: with it, which is I would assume even more dangerous.
Speaker 1: So maybe they're using an abundance of caution in light
Speaker 1: of that because he played the rest of a football game,
Speaker 1: and that could also signal you can't trust the players.
Speaker 1: It's a great point because if they if they if
Speaker 1: he went on the sideline and didn't really tell anybody
Speaker 1: and they didn't notice, they didn't see the hit to
Speaker 1: say maybe there's something wrong or whatever the case might be,
Speaker 1: if they were relying on his word and he just
Speaker 1: was like, I'm good, I can go, Yeah, then maybe
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, guy, we need to have more
Speaker 1: testing and not really listen to the player on this one.
Speaker 1: This time yesterday, I felt pretty good that he would play,
Speaker 1: and I'm guessing I'm leaning more towards not now. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's that's the big one for me. So obviously
Speaker 1: Scandrick has had I mean the with the back problems.
Speaker 1: He probably is not I wouldn't assume is gonna play
Speaker 1: at this point. Talking about Bryce Butler, he's got the
Speaker 1: foot injury. Last week when he popped up on the
Speaker 1: injury or where we were kind of like, well, we
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. Now it's into a
Speaker 1: second week. Is this a little more serious than to
Speaker 1: maybe what we assumed initially, Yes, because I know he
Speaker 1: wants to do anything and everything to play in this game.
Speaker 1: He wants to play against his former team, the team
Speaker 1: that drafted him, in an area that he's really familiar with.
Speaker 1: I mean he you know, well, I say that he's
Speaker 1: from you know, college in California, not really up there,
Speaker 1: but he went, you know, he obviously played for the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and so he wants wants to play in this game
Speaker 1: and even said he was fine missing last week's game
Speaker 1: if he could play this week. But I think he's
Speaker 1: getting caught up in a couple of other things. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's just the situation of his foot. I
Speaker 1: think that it maybe Noah Brown is close enough to
Speaker 1: take in some of those snaps that you put the
Speaker 1: injury on top of that, but that wouldn't keep him
Speaker 1: out of practice. Then I wouldn't keep him out of practice,
Speaker 1: but it might keep being active, Yeah, which is important
Speaker 1: for him because he's on a one year deal and
Speaker 1: after this year he's got to go out into free
Speaker 1: agency and try to find another deal. And when he's
Speaker 1: missing games with her not being able to put David
Speaker 1: type of thing. Yeah, you know, I mean they want
Speaker 1: to they want to put these He already missed some
Speaker 1: games too, so yeah, I think that factors into these
Speaker 1: guys telling trainers that they're good. I got him good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah. The thing about a receiver is it's
Speaker 1: different than a concussion. You got a foot injury for
Speaker 1: a receiver. You you know, if you're not very fast,
Speaker 1: everybody can see it. Yeah, and that's his thing. He is.
Speaker 1: He speed, speed guy. That's what he brings to the table.
Speaker 1: Speed pretty much theoretically not not speed enough for Nick,
Speaker 1: but a speed guy. Nonetheless. Well, it's still the point
Speaker 1: now that if you use saying Bolt doesn't come in
Speaker 1: here with a cowboy helmet, I just don't care. And
Speaker 1: it's just not it's not fast enough. When we were
Speaker 1: at the Giants um, I asked him on the bus.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the conversation, Nick, but
Speaker 1: he basically said that he was feeling around ninety five
Speaker 1: percent whatever that means, but basically insinuating that he talking
Speaker 1: about Bryce Ryce health wise. Yeah, because I asked him,
Speaker 1: he said the same injury. You know, back from training him,
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, and he kind of explained me, it's
Speaker 1: like certain, however, he steps on the foot and maybe
Speaker 1: bothers him a little bit in a way. But he
Speaker 1: was saying from the way, it sounded like he's feeling
Speaker 1: close to being, you know, one, and to me surprising
Speaker 1: to see that he hasn't practiced yet. Were you nice
Speaker 1: to him, like when this conversation happened, Like, were you
Speaker 1: like asking about him? Were you like, why aren't you
Speaker 1: playing whist boy? Like I can picture that very clear?
Speaker 1: Like her, like her literally just like insulting, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like you're gonna play or you a coward? I asked him, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Because I could see him in
Speaker 1: his face like he he is not, you know, very
Speaker 1: happy right now. So I asked her, Hey, so you
Speaker 1: were right Dan, Okay, yeah, I'm happy. That's just wondering. Wow,
Speaker 1: it was on the bus with a bunch of players.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's just gonna call him out. That's
Speaker 1: a good Yeah. I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. She is kind of fearless. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about inactives. I think we all kind of
Speaker 1: agree based upon that conversation that Butler Irving and Scandrick
Speaker 1: will likely be inactive this week. Going beyond that, you
Speaker 1: basically have one, two, three, four, five, maybe six players
Speaker 1: that you need to get four more four more of
Speaker 1: them onto onto the inactive list. Let me throw out
Speaker 1: the names and then you tell me the four that
Speaker 1: you'd like to see that you think will be there.
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones, Chaz Green, Justin march Lillard or Justin Durant
Speaker 1: or both. If you choose Trey Williams and Blake Jarwin,
Speaker 1: who are your four? Well, let's start with Trey Williams
Speaker 1: real quick. Yes, he will be inactive this week. However,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got to figure something out there because their
Speaker 1: third running back is inactive. Now next week, Sekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: will join the party, and uh, maybe he looks like this,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't, but he he will be the third.
Speaker 1: I mean, they won't be the third running back, but
Speaker 1: they won't keep I mean they'll they'll probably have three active.
Speaker 1: I don't think Alfred Moore they even have one like
Speaker 1: Willy will They cut Trey william Oh I would imagine, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would guess. But but my issue is is that
Speaker 1: he's the third running back. He's inactive that won't happen
Speaker 1: next week. You know, next week Alfred Morris will be active,
Speaker 1: so will Rod Smith? Of course, Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: an interest. I think that's a question. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I think that's a that's a for sure, can't
Speaker 1: be a question. You cannot bring this guy back wherever
Speaker 1: he's been, what he's doing. He can't just come in
Speaker 1: and say you're the guy. You got to have Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris active. Well, but if you had Rod Smith active?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that not enough? Just the two of them?
Speaker 1: I don't think now, don't get me wrong. If you've
Speaker 1: got spots like this week, I think inactives are kind
Speaker 1: of an afterthought. But but let's assume that everybody's healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have five shows. I guess next week the thought
Speaker 1: can we just focus on having a good Friday? Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: your third running back is going to be inactive, but
Speaker 1: next week that might not be as easy. So tray
Speaker 1: tray William w us next Wednesday. I agree with with
Speaker 1: Nicholas for whatever that's work. I don't care what you
Speaker 1: agree with. Wow, Okay, I didn't care. Cool, thanks, not worth? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I gotta feeling sorry. I'll just turn this rest of
Speaker 1: the show. Um, okay, Oh, go ahead, finish your statement.
Speaker 1: Zeke's been gone for six weeks. You can't guarantee you
Speaker 1: know what kind of condition he's in or trust that
Speaker 1: he's just ready to rip off twenty eight carries his
Speaker 1: first week back. I think it's the Seahawks against yeah,
Speaker 1: against a very good defense, even with the injuries they have. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I wouldn't sit. Maybe you sit Morris for
Speaker 1: the Eagles if if you know, if Zeke looks good
Speaker 1: or whatever, But I would. I would have through running
Speaker 1: backs active for that game. So going back to this
Speaker 1: week's game, Trey Williams, Trey Williams, you think is that
Speaker 1: is in sidem down? So give me three more guys?
Speaker 1: Who was three? Lake? Darwin? How you down to two?
Speaker 1: Jarwin and pick pick your linebacker? Probably one of the two.
Speaker 1: You don't put both one probably you know, well you
Speaker 1: don't need to put both. Okay, I would probably, I
Speaker 1: mean i'd probably sit to rant because March Lillard can
Speaker 1: play special teams and you've got all your other linebackers healthy.
Speaker 1: Got eight one more between Dayton Jones and she Wait,
Speaker 1: I thought you said we only needed three. We needed
Speaker 1: four more. We had three stand Irving Bryce. You were
Speaker 1: too busy trying to si. This guy's going to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, right, I knew you were going to do this.
Speaker 1: Sp uh. Someday he will stop it. I guarantee will
Speaker 1: Dave go. Um crap? What what were my options? I'm sorry, Dayton,
Speaker 1: you down to Dayton Jones or Chaz Green. I think
Speaker 1: your finals well all right, I think that I think
Speaker 1: they felt good about what Dayton Jones did last week,
Speaker 1: so I'll be well, oh um, what about oh damn.
Speaker 1: You probably don't want to sit Daniel Ross either, not
Speaker 1: if Irving's not playing. If irvings plan, I think he's
Speaker 1: gotta be act. They didn't they sit him. They said
Speaker 1: him last week against the Giants though didn't. Yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: I would say, Daniel Ross, okay, let me ask you
Speaker 1: this question, though, playing a team that has a running
Speaker 1: back the caliber of the running back you're gonna face
Speaker 1: this weekend, do you think maybe you need that extra
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I think I'm way more worried about how
Speaker 1: my linebackers are playing than my defensive tacks. Got it
Speaker 1: funny the way you say sign back because you already got,
Speaker 1: but you're already gonna have on. I'm saying, like Daniel Ross,
Speaker 1: isn't the difference between whether or not Marshawn Lynch has
Speaker 1: a good day. That's what I'm trying to say. All Right,
Speaker 1: So I would probably sit Daniel Ross, and you'd keep
Speaker 1: Dayton Jones and you'd keep Jazz Green active just because
Speaker 1: it's I mean, they've they've been practicing, or they both
Speaker 1: were a practice yesterday. They've both played really well, but
Speaker 1: it still seems smart to have an insurance policy other
Speaker 1: than I don't I mean, if they're both gimpy, might
Speaker 1: why not both? Yeah? I worked well so far. Just
Speaker 1: just remember this when I said Blake Darwin James Hannah
Speaker 1: has Yeah, there's something worth keeping an eye on. And
Speaker 1: he's been he was limited yes your day day, so
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's progressing. He miss wins the limited.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens today. And he's coming off his
Speaker 1: best catch of his entire career. So I think everyone
Speaker 1: probably play. I'm trying to figure out if that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we had a hard time
Speaker 1: coming up with another one that was like that was
Speaker 1: a great kid. I'm not saying it wasn't I'm just
Speaker 1: that might be the best catch that any guy's made
Speaker 1: for this team this year. Like, just that was very
Speaker 1: good catch easily. Still. Yeah that was six years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was six years ago. I mean, no one's putting
Speaker 1: that on the T shirt. Six years ago. It seems
Speaker 1: like a long time. It does seem like a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Yeah, that's how seasons go, though. Ye think
Speaker 1: about those games back in September, they feel like they
Speaker 1: were two seasons ago. Like that feel like a long December. No, no,
Speaker 1: Counting Crows, this isn't. Yeah, you don't strike me as
Speaker 1: a Counting Crows fan. Nah, I don't even know who
Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, you do shut out, seriously, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Who is that cool? Whatever? Are?
Speaker 1: We'll put on some Marvin Gay. It's fine. There you go.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions for these guys, just
Speaker 1: some big picture questions. I want to find out a
Speaker 1: little bit more about who they who are, what they're
Speaker 1: concerned most about in this game, Cowboys versus Oakland. I'll
Speaker 1: come up this Sunday and Sunday Night Football. And also
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about the running back
Speaker 1: position to the Cowboys, or should the Cowboys change up
Speaker 1: what they've been doing? Should they maybe consider Rod Smith
Speaker 1: having more of a role than what he's had so
Speaker 1: far in these games where Zekiel Elliot has been out.
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Speaker 1: Back to the break, sluckle back, Got to be Different Break?
Speaker 1: Never heard of? Never heard a Long December by Accounting Crows. Sure,
Speaker 1: I don't understand why that bothers him so much. Like
Speaker 1: it's like one of those songs that it's just ubiquitous
Speaker 1: in American life, Like you can't get away from it obviously.
Speaker 1: So because I've never heard I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to say that I've you you don't
Speaker 1: like it or whatever, but like if you've really never
Speaker 1: heard it, I've really never heard it. Like seriously, I've
Speaker 1: never heard it before. Crazy to me, and I listen
Speaker 1: to a lot of music. I just never heard that never.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a like you know, it's whatever,
Speaker 1: stoy go away. It's the second time of the day
Speaker 1: you told me to go away. Don't like this? What
Speaker 1: you just don't like that kind of music? What kind
Speaker 1: of music is that? What are you trying to say? See,
Speaker 1: Ken's got it pulled up on the boarders. How popular.
Speaker 1: I've never heard the song, and I'm surprised. I'm just never,
Speaker 1: Like you said, if it's one of those songs, just
Speaker 1: see it, everyone, just hear. How have we not played
Speaker 1: this on any of our seasons? Because every name December
Speaker 1: has been a long December? Like why has it been?
Speaker 1: Like the music too slow to be on anything that
Speaker 1: we would do. It's pretty slow. It's a great songs, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm not right now, I'm not convinced it's a
Speaker 1: great song. What is a great song? What is a
Speaker 1: great song? I took this thing. I took this thing
Speaker 1: off the rails. Go everybody, everybody, great song, Um, your
Speaker 1: next pit Bull? Great song? Sexual Healing. It's a great song. Okay,
Speaker 1: this I got nothing to say to that. That is
Speaker 1: a great song. Amber a great song. You want to
Speaker 1: hear my favorite American song? Okay, I'm pretty dirty? Oh no,
Speaker 1: the worse than sexual Healing? Uh? Put it down on me?
Speaker 1: Oh who's that? I'm not gonna sing it. I like
Speaker 1: the way I don't know what you yeah, I like
Speaker 1: the way you grind with Yeah, there we go. When
Speaker 1: I really thought this was a good idea, really started.
Speaker 1: Its Usually I can't just say something from the COOMBI
Speaker 1: at Kings and let's move on what I listened to.
Speaker 1: It's usually Nick that takes this show off, So I
Speaker 1: apologize for he did. He started all of that. That's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jual Healing is a great song. It is a
Speaker 1: great so when you and your great song is what
Speaker 1: he just let us hear it. It's not his favorite. No, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there's Drake and I love.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Marvin gay Back Black all time favorites.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. That's too that's too intense for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: you started all this and you're not gonna give one. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, say it? What is
Speaker 1: it Amarillo by Morning or no, no juice? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. I would say, probably though, this is how
Speaker 1: we do it. This is how we do it. And
Speaker 1: I love that song. And I was in college. But
Speaker 1: when we got to meet him and I got to
Speaker 1: talk to him and asked him, what does this is
Speaker 1: how we do it? Really mean? And his answer was awesome.
Speaker 1: So I just I like it. He's just talking about
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you're doing whether you're singing songs,
Speaker 1: playing football, being on a show, whatever, here's the standard
Speaker 1: that you need to go buy. This is how we
Speaker 1: do it. I like it. So I've always loved that song, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like having never heard a Long December by Counting Crows
Speaker 1: is like saying I've never heard this is how we
Speaker 1: do It by Montell Jordan, Like it's really yeah, it's
Speaker 1: on the same level. It's on a very similar has
Speaker 1: heard this is how we do it? Like, and she's thirteen,
Speaker 1: we should But that song that can't just play it
Speaker 1: to me has the greatest lyrics of all time, the
Speaker 1: greatest rap lyric of all time. Right there? That that
Speaker 1: part right there, Well, Brenda has Got a Baby's pretty
Speaker 1: good too. But Brenda's got a Baby heard a Right,
Speaker 1: That's where the conversation is done. In the nine It's unbelievable,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Yeah, you're so obsessed with the nineties
Speaker 1: you've never heard like one of the biggest hits of
Speaker 1: the nineties. That's crazy. Yeah, But I was listening to
Speaker 1: up let's talk about let's talk about football. Let yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get back to it all right, so we h.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of questions I wanted to throw
Speaker 1: to you guys. I guess the big question that half
Speaker 1: of you guys is when you look at this team,
Speaker 1: and you guys have been on shows all week, so
Speaker 1: you kind of have a better idea of this than
Speaker 1: I do. But you look at this Raiders team offensively, defensively,
Speaker 1: special teams, what thing do you think is the biggest
Speaker 1: would be the biggest concern? Think you got from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys standpoint as you faced this team. Let's start with you,
Speaker 1: Dave Um. The Raiders pass rush is really the only
Speaker 1: thing about their defense that worries me a whole bunch,
Speaker 1: and Marshawn Lynch is the only component of their offense
Speaker 1: that really scares me either, which I feel weird saying that,
Speaker 1: because I mean Derek Carr somewhere is he's a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean he was in the MVP conversation. He's had
Speaker 1: his moments this year, but it just hasn't been there
Speaker 1: this season for them. Their receivers are either gimpy or
Speaker 1: not good. We don't know if a Marie Cooper is
Speaker 1: going to play in this game. It's on I look
Speaker 1: at it, and other than Amari Cooper, who we established
Speaker 1: early in the week when you were actually here, is
Speaker 1: like he's one game away from having just like the
Speaker 1: most atrocious year, like he blew up against Kansas City
Speaker 1: and other than that, it's nothing. And then you got
Speaker 1: Jared Cook and then there's nobody else on that Allen
Speaker 1: Crabtree has been a better receiver since he's been with
Speaker 1: Oakland and has moments when he's had really great games. Right,
Speaker 1: all he's just I mean, I know, I mean, as
Speaker 1: soon as you say it, then Lewis blew the hell up.
Speaker 1: As soon as I said I thought he was manageable.
Speaker 1: But like, there's nobody on this team. He's not Keena Keena.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not going in no, of course not. I'm
Speaker 1: not going into this game just being like crab Tree, right, whoa, whoa? Hey,
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't see it. This has a
Speaker 1: feeling though, about that Falcons game, where you know you're like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Falcons? What's wrong with Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: he's the MVP, what's wrong with car And then it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and then here it is like playing at home,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. I just think those those
Speaker 1: breakdowns defensively, you know, they they happen every now and again,
Speaker 1: there's just and and Eli missed this guy in the
Speaker 1: first or second quarter there, I can't remember. They had
Speaker 1: one drive wide open. He just missed it. And you
Speaker 1: just don't expect these these guys to miss those. But
Speaker 1: but it's happening, and we're leaving these guys just wide open.
Speaker 1: And I will I mean, car doesn't take a lot
Speaker 1: of sacks. I think he said like twenty one on
Speaker 1: the years. He's top he's top ten. Uh, It's I
Speaker 1: thought they were. I thought they were farther down in
Speaker 1: Sex anyway. But they have the line to protect him,
Speaker 1: which I mean, so you gotta cover well, you gotta
Speaker 1: cover longer. That's that's something worth watching. But honestly, I
Speaker 1: think if you can stop their running game, if you
Speaker 1: can keep Marshawn Lynch from blowing up, and I think
Speaker 1: they can like he has. I mean, their golfense just
Speaker 1: has not lived up to the expectation that it had
Speaker 1: in the preseason obviously, and I think if you stop
Speaker 1: their run, I just don't see them being like I
Speaker 1: just don't see them putting up like thirty points. I
Speaker 1: just would be surprised by that. Amber. What could serge
Speaker 1: you moth most. I absolutely agree with Dave. I'm just
Speaker 1: glad that Shaun Lee and Anthony Hitchens are going to
Speaker 1: be able to be on the field. Hopefully Shaun Lee
Speaker 1: there's no reoccurring trouble there with his hamstring that we
Speaker 1: are able to see him most of the time being
Speaker 1: on the field. And I really loved everything I saw
Speaker 1: from him last game, and it's absolutely amazing the way
Speaker 1: he plays and how he tackles and how he manages
Speaker 1: he controls the whole defense. So I'm just glad he's
Speaker 1: there because is my main concern would be mister Lynch
Speaker 1: all right, Nick, I don't know, never been a big,
Speaker 1: like big fan of him, of his game. Really, No,
Speaker 1: not really, I mean, I mean, big strong running back.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's that great right now. I think they can
Speaker 1: bottle him up, I really do. I don't. He doesn't
Speaker 1: concern me as much as the other guys. You know,
Speaker 1: I kind of know what you're talking about because I'm
Speaker 1: kind of the same way. I think he's a volume runner,
Speaker 1: Like if you let if they keep giving him the ball,
Speaker 1: if they get in games where they can keep giving
Speaker 1: him the ball. As the game goes on, he'll wear
Speaker 1: you down a little bit more like he reminds me
Speaker 1: of um Eddie George a little bit like Eddie George
Speaker 1: is not a kind of guy that you were afraid
Speaker 1: of him taking it eighty yards at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the game. Eddie George is just so big and so
Speaker 1: physical that as the game wore on, if they were
Speaker 1: still in a position where they could run it. If
Speaker 1: he gets the thirty carries in a game, or twenty
Speaker 1: eight carries in a game, good luck, you're probably not
Speaker 1: gonna win that. Yeah. So that's the kind of back
Speaker 1: that Marshawn. So don't get me wrong, he's a really
Speaker 1: good running back. But I think it's a different like.
Speaker 1: You don't fear him the way you fear back in
Speaker 1: the day, the way you would have feared a Marshall fallk,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just it's different kind of guys.
Speaker 1: It's not he's not that guy that necessarily just destroys
Speaker 1: you from start to fat. But you look at their offense,
Speaker 1: who from who else from their offense would you actually
Speaker 1: think stands out more? Great point question? I still believe it,
Speaker 1: But that just because you're the best doesn't mean well,
Speaker 1: the question leading player from Yale, if you have to
Speaker 1: choose from the group, the question was what concerns you? Right,
Speaker 1: she doesn't get there. God, I remember that this is
Speaker 1: what concerns me, just from the offense or just overall.
Speaker 1: As I say at the beginning of the question offense defenses,
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention on um Khalil Mackal he's the best.
Speaker 1: He's the best defensive player on the team. He's one
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. And you know, I
Speaker 1: the cat always have great tackles, there's no doubt about it,
Speaker 1: and they're playing well. But I think his versatility and
Speaker 1: what they do, and then the fact Bruce Irvans got
Speaker 1: a lot of sex on the other side. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty good one two punch, so he's obviously getting a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of help on his side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think and I Cowboys don't do that a
Speaker 1: ton of then we give a lot of help. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be anxious to see where Khalil Mack is.
Speaker 1: He's the guy you guys have probably sit this early
Speaker 1: in the week when I wasn't here, but probably Lil
Speaker 1: Mack is. He typically on one side of the other
Speaker 1: or does he filip around. He's he's a right or
Speaker 1: left end primarily, He's gonna be primarily on Lyle's side.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that matchup? I mean, it
Speaker 1: makes some money. I feel I feel good, but I
Speaker 1: mean Lyle, Lyle, I feel like he's earned the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt. I think one it would be silly
Speaker 1: not to try to give him some help. I mean
Speaker 1: it would it would. I think it would be foolish
Speaker 1: just to be like, well, yeah he's got it, he's good.
Speaker 1: But I feel like he has earned some confidence. Lyle
Speaker 1: has no doubt about it. But all it, I mean,
Speaker 1: all it takes this one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean, this could be the matchup. This is just
Speaker 1: not good for him for whatever reason, maybe like Max
Speaker 1: got a better first step, or he's more powerful than
Speaker 1: other guys. You know. I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker 1: Actually I wrote I wrote a story about Lyle yesterday
Speaker 1: and was talking to him about it, and it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But he was just talking about, like, now, the biggest
Speaker 1: thing that he's had to learn this year is patience,
Speaker 1: because play and tackles so much different than being a guard,
Speaker 1: like and you watch Lyle Collins play like he wants
Speaker 1: to maul people, Like he just wants to come off
Speaker 1: the line and destroy you. And you can't necessarily do
Speaker 1: that when you play tackle, Like you have to understand
Speaker 1: that they have to come through you, they have to
Speaker 1: get around you. And I mean, like, you know, even
Speaker 1: something as simple as just getting in the way might
Speaker 1: be what you have to do on a given play,
Speaker 1: Like it's not all just about demolishing the guy in
Speaker 1: front of you, which is what he got so used
Speaker 1: to as a guard. So he said he's learned a
Speaker 1: lot about that, you know, over the course of the season.
Speaker 1: I think his direct quote was, it's a night and
Speaker 1: day difference from you know, September to now, which I
Speaker 1: think bears out when you watch play playing a lot
Speaker 1: better than people are talking about it, Like nobody's really
Speaker 1: talking about it because there's been so many other issues.
Speaker 1: Still getting tweets and emails from people that are like,
Speaker 1: they need to do this so that he can move
Speaker 1: back to guard. I'm like, why they've made the transition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've made the transition at this point, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see where it goes from here, Like if they
Speaker 1: can get Zach's resigned to a deal, and you can
Speaker 1: keep this line together for another two years, you know,
Speaker 1: until somebody else comes up, and then you have to
Speaker 1: start wondering or tiring, gets to the point where you
Speaker 1: got to start winning. Whatever might happen. But for two
Speaker 1: years solid, if you got the same offensive line, whatever
Speaker 1: happens at guard, I think you're whatever. Let's just assume
Speaker 1: whether he's here or whether they go out and have
Speaker 1: to get somebody else. If you got those four pieces
Speaker 1: altogether for there for a couple of years, I think
Speaker 1: you're really working with something. I really do. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I agree as well. I think he's played
Speaker 1: very well. I think I love that answer about him
Speaker 1: learning how to play tackle, you know, different than guard.
Speaker 1: It's almost like full back to running back, where you
Speaker 1: just attack mode, where you have to be patient. And
Speaker 1: you know, if anyone knows about being patient, here's a
Speaker 1: guy that was expected. I know y'all well talked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday on the show about where he would have
Speaker 1: gone if if he didn't have the incident. The top
Speaker 1: fifteen it was a non instant top ten, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then then you getting undrafted. Now, I think he would
Speaker 1: have been drafted, had his agent didn't come out and say,
Speaker 1: do not draft us. We're not playing, I mean, don't
Speaker 1: take us a sixth seventh round. Still can't believe that worked.
Speaker 1: I know, like once you get to like the fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth round and I'm just like, screw it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take take a shot sixth round. Why not take
Speaker 1: a shot? Right? Exactly, Like six round picks don't make
Speaker 1: it through training camp every year because you can pay
Speaker 1: him whatever you want to pay him. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean even if but you know what, though,
Speaker 1: it's better for the k it was better for him
Speaker 1: to not because when you get drafted, they give you
Speaker 1: a rookie pool that it wouldn't have been that high
Speaker 1: for him to be like a fifth or sixth round pick.
Speaker 1: But can't you always go back and do a restructure
Speaker 1: on the deal, right? It can only restructure after three years.
Speaker 1: Third year, Well that's oh that is for draft picks. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just for draft picks. I mean, not
Speaker 1: if you can restructure like an undrafted guy or or
Speaker 1: something like that. Actually really smart what his agent did. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: but in fact he got away with the fact that
Speaker 1: it worked is I mean if he had, if they
Speaker 1: had gone through with their threat, he would have sat
Speaker 1: out for a whole year, wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: go back to college, would have just had to work
Speaker 1: out for a year and hope for the best the
Speaker 1: next year. That's not and I don't think he would
Speaker 1: have done that. I really don't. They came out after
Speaker 1: the draft and we're like, we were bluffing, like they
Speaker 1: said that, especially if you have if he got drafted
Speaker 1: by team that actually he could see himself like he
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to get a job, you know, unbelievable
Speaker 1: play by him and his agent, unbelievable play by Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones and get him here. And it's I feel like
Speaker 1: it's unusual for stuff like that to pan out as
Speaker 1: well as it has. But like it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: been great because the money he got this year after
Speaker 1: his second year, they wouldn't have been able to do
Speaker 1: that if he was a fifth, sixth round pick, right,
Speaker 1: So it's worked out for everybody. Yeah, it was a big,
Speaker 1: big coup of the Cowboys to be able to secure
Speaker 1: his services. They just fell into the right spot at
Speaker 1: the right time, and then Jerry was able to close
Speaker 1: the deal, So salesman, here you go. Um, here's another
Speaker 1: question I have for you, guys. Um, after what happened
Speaker 1: last week with Rod Smith and the number of yards
Speaker 1: and the way he played last week, do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should consider the possibility of using him in
Speaker 1: a different role and not necessarily making him the primary back.
Speaker 1: I don't. They don't do that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: would you do more than just give him third down duties?
Speaker 1: Would you maybe get him in there starting in the
Speaker 1: I know usually they'll flip out in the third series
Speaker 1: of the game, but would you do more? Would you
Speaker 1: maybe go two series for Morris, two series for Smith too,
Speaker 1: smooth series for Morris or something more like that to
Speaker 1: give him a little bit more of an opportunity. Yep,
Speaker 1: I think, I think a little bit, but but not
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, remember he went eighty one yards
Speaker 1: because the Giants really were just caught in a really
Speaker 1: bad defense. I mean, I don't think he was out
Speaker 1: of the game right and I if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: that play right there, then I don't think we're talking
Speaker 1: all because his numbers are just totally inflated. That he
Speaker 1: made the play would give him credit there, But I
Speaker 1: would put him in there a little bit more. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think his more impressive plays were not that touchdown
Speaker 1: or even the second one. I think is the run
Speaker 1: that right before Beasley's play was great, the blitz pickup.
Speaker 1: He's doing a lot. He just does a lot of
Speaker 1: things well. So for that reason, yes, I would play
Speaker 1: him a little bit more than Morris, But I I
Speaker 1: don't know how much more i'd like that rotation there.
Speaker 1: I agree with I like this rotation a lot better, though,
Speaker 1: I know, right how much? Do you also a factor
Speaker 1: in that? If you look at kind of how things
Speaker 1: are going to go beyond this, you would think that
Speaker 1: Rod Smith probably has a better chance of being here
Speaker 1: longer term and I'm talking about next year, yeah, than
Speaker 1: maybe Alfred Morris getting him more opportunities because when Zeke
Speaker 1: comes back, his opportunity is going to be extremely limited.
Speaker 1: Would you want to give him more opportunities here because
Speaker 1: you think that there's promise and you want to kind
Speaker 1: of just get him in more. I mean I would
Speaker 1: give yeah, I would give him more touches, and I
Speaker 1: would lean towards trying to have the carries split fairly evenly.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't I don't care about what it
Speaker 1: means for the future. I mean, what's you know, training
Speaker 1: camp next year, Like he's not going to be any
Speaker 1: better or worse because he got ten more carries in December,
Speaker 1: and I don't care about that. But I mean, he's
Speaker 1: under contract in twenty eighteen, he's I mean, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. And I think he's
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, he's probably not a hard
Speaker 1: guy to hold onto in the future. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I said this earlier on one of our other platforms.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember which one at this point, but
Speaker 1: Zeke Rod and a draft pick is what I want
Speaker 1: the running back room to look like next year. That's
Speaker 1: my And that's nothing against Alfred Morris. It's just smart
Speaker 1: football in my opinion, Like why whatever you have to
Speaker 1: give Alfred Morris, he's you know, he's nearing that thirty mark,
Speaker 1: which is bad for running backs. Younger younger, always younger.
Speaker 1: So and Rod has shown he has now delivered on
Speaker 1: that potential that we've talked so much about, Like you've
Speaker 1: seen that he can do it, even if the numbers
Speaker 1: are a little bit inflated. I feel good about his potential.
Speaker 1: I think Alfred Moore is setting himself up for maybe
Speaker 1: another contract with a team I'd say like a Jacksonville
Speaker 1: or somebody, or maybe the Rams or somebody with a
Speaker 1: young back that's the star. Alfred has proven one thing
Speaker 1: he can he can sit back and and he you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't cause any issues or anything. He
Speaker 1: waits for his turn. He's been in the you know,
Speaker 1: ultimate professional and he's a good you know, he's been
Speaker 1: a good player. He surprised me a little bit with
Speaker 1: with what he's been able to do. Um I said
Speaker 1: all along, I thought they should have gone with McFadden.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was proven wrong, but but
Speaker 1: they know that in the in the practice so and
Speaker 1: and a lot of that had to do with Rod Smith.
Speaker 1: They wanted to get Rod and more involved. They thought
Speaker 1: he was more of a future. I don't know what
Speaker 1: position Rod Smith is, which is a good thing. What
Speaker 1: is he? I mean think he's not a running back
Speaker 1: or something other than a running back. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what he really is. I mean, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a running back, but he's a gigantic running Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I remember remember back in the day they don't know this,
Speaker 1: but back now just dismissing us. Now you you have
Speaker 1: a maybe a shot Larry Centers. Yeah, yeah, from the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Right now. The name sounds familiar, but I
Speaker 1: mean I don't I don't have I mean, he was
Speaker 1: a fullback, but he wasn't because he caught Pastor Anderson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's something like that. It's fullback, running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't know what he is. But
Speaker 1: you don't have to define it. Just put him out
Speaker 1: there and let him make plays, because because if you're
Speaker 1: having a hard time defining it, the other teams having
Speaker 1: a hard time figuring out who to put on him. See.
Speaker 1: But I don't I think he is clearly a tailback
Speaker 1: running back. I don't think he's a fullback. Clearly a tailback.
Speaker 1: When he goes out and has an eighty one yard
Speaker 1: pass where he dukes the safety and goes I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a running back. That's a running backs due what well,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what you think. That's a receiver or
Speaker 1: you cam on a receiver. I don't know what he is.
Speaker 1: That's not a fullback for sure. So I think I
Speaker 1: think his his characteristics and what we've seen him do
Speaker 1: to me clearly puts him in the category of a
Speaker 1: running back. In my opinion, I don't think when they
Speaker 1: had to put him at fullback, I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was great there. No, So so I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't think. I don't. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: another position where he fits more than me until next week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a better place for him than
Speaker 1: running back. I don't think it's receiver. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fullback. I think running backs where he belongs. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a traditional running back. Either
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's a good player. We just want the
Speaker 1: right kind of guy on the team. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: stuff going on. She can pick up the slack. What
Speaker 1: will happen is, though, is she'll say, you haven't unpacked
Speaker 1: from New York and it's like it's Monday night football,
Speaker 1: I want to watch the game. You're like, unpack your stuff,
Speaker 1: get it out and get it. I gotta have room
Speaker 1: for this. That's a bad wife. So you don't have
Speaker 1: a bad wife. I have, damn. So you're saying I
Speaker 1: don't need a wife, I'm saying, got it? And you
Speaker 1: would be unpacked if you had one like you saying,
Speaker 1: but for different reasons. No, you just need a good wife.
Speaker 1: I'm working on it, all right. Let's keep that working.
Speaker 1: Are you that that? Just? This show is so off
Speaker 1: the rails, and it's spend a lot of December, and
Speaker 1: as it's called the drought season. That's what stop some
Speaker 1: sexual now we do it. I just want to name
Speaker 1: all of the songs we had. I just want to
Speaker 1: talk about Cowboys football, all right. Then I'll get some
Speaker 1: questions in the numbers two one four eight seven two
Speaker 1: twenty one O two. Again it's two one four eight
Speaker 1: seven two twenty one O two. We have a phone
Speaker 1: call from Michael and Arizona. Michael, what up, Hey? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Happy Friday? Might Pete? Hey? What up? Hey? Man?
Speaker 1: You know how Rod we're talking about Rob Smith like
Speaker 1: as a running back catching out of the backfield. What
Speaker 1: do you think, Bruce arians how he would you utilize him?
Speaker 1: You think he would utilize him like um David Johnson
Speaker 1: would like if we could, if the Cowboys could use
Speaker 1: him like called David Johnson is utilize down here? Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, all right, all right, thanks, I'd rather do
Speaker 1: that with Ezekiel Elliott than Rods. I mean, that's something
Speaker 1: we're going all the way back to the offseason. Is
Speaker 1: you know, I wish the Cowboys would get their running
Speaker 1: backs more involved in the passing game, and we've seen
Speaker 1: what they can do. Is I would I believe the
Speaker 1: two longest receiving touchdowns of the season are both from
Speaker 1: running backs. Are they not Zeke and San Francisco and
Speaker 1: Rod in New York? Yeah, they have that type of ability.
Speaker 1: Rod has to do it. It's the longest reception of
Speaker 1: the season by any player in the league. There you go.
Speaker 1: I mean there's only the four more guys that went.
Speaker 1: I mean there's some nineties. We're just worth mentioning that
Speaker 1: a six three running back got to the house on
Speaker 1: an And I know the Giants blitzed, but still like
Speaker 1: this is the NFL, Like you get caught and well,
Speaker 1: you know the other thing to think about here, and
Speaker 1: I don't know this for fact. I just I was
Speaker 1: talking to a guy that's an Ohio State guy, and
Speaker 1: he said, back when he was in college, he was
Speaker 1: a four or five guy. Like this is not a
Speaker 1: guy that even though you think he's big, you don't
Speaker 1: consider him to be a speed guy, right, But this
Speaker 1: is a guy coming out of high school's very very
Speaker 1: highly recruited. I think he was a five star recruit
Speaker 1: and was a four or five runner, So this is
Speaker 1: not a slow running back. We were down on the
Speaker 1: field and I was it was on the other end
Speaker 1: coming toward us, and it got to about the thirty
Speaker 1: yard line before I realized it was Rod Smith. I
Speaker 1: thought Noah Brown was taking it to the house when
Speaker 1: his first I just didn't. I've never really seen that
Speaker 1: play where the running back slants over the middle like that.
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him do that, so I thought I
Speaker 1: was probably a receiver. I've seen it from plenty of
Speaker 1: other teams. Yeah, the Cowboys, which goes back to my point,
Speaker 1: do it more often, and I've seen the Saints do
Speaker 1: it a lot, and they do that a lot. Those receivers,
Speaker 1: Terrence and Dez, they actually, I mean they helped with that.
Speaker 1: I mean they were down there, they were getting this
Speaker 1: was a personal protector. They were getting in the way dead.
Speaker 1: The reason that play worked is because Dez was bracketed,
Speaker 1: which you know, you go back and watch. We can
Speaker 1: say all you want about how Dez has struggled, but
Speaker 1: like defenses still pay attention to after that fifty years.
Speaker 1: If you notice after his touchdown in that game, they
Speaker 1: started doubling him quite a bit more. You started seeing
Speaker 1: them put the safety just basically right on top of him,
Speaker 1: and so there were two guys just sitting on top
Speaker 1: of Dez for a lot of the rest of that game,
Speaker 1: which I think does open up open upout. But that's
Speaker 1: what we've been wanting from DESN. Make those kind of
Speaker 1: plays and force them to say. That's what g omb does.
Speaker 1: Forces the safety get off, brother, get off? Yeah, brother?
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, let's get a question from Twitter. Other
Speaker 1: than the center and guards, what other ways of scheme
Speaker 1: wise are there to block the linebacker. The concern is
Speaker 1: the Raiders linebacker Bowman thinking that he's going to be
Speaker 1: a nightmare for the Cowboys. Yeah, you're talking beef, beef
Speaker 1: thirty one. It's beef thirty one, but he wears forty one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you want to see more beef. Keith Smith, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just sent him up there. And then that touchdown that
Speaker 1: Rod Smith had the run, I thought, I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of good blocks on that play, but
Speaker 1: Keith Smith, I mean comes in who really blocked two guys.
Speaker 1: He's he can handle it. I mean what I can return. Guy,
Speaker 1: you gotta be crazy to play that position. You got
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of that in you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's kind of liked it, like he doesn't care. He
Speaker 1: doesn't need to throw his body out there. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what makes him really good. That's really affective.
Speaker 1: I know the question said other than the Garden Center,
Speaker 1: but like Travis Frederick, that's what it is. Earned your contract.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean he's a great player. I
Speaker 1: don't say it that way like he hasn't been darning it.
Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a tough one and go
Speaker 1: get him. Yep. All right, let's get a call from
Speaker 1: Nolan in California. Nolan, what up? Hey, what's up? Guys?
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say a day two Amber, I've seen you out at
Speaker 1: training camp and you actually hooked me up with the
Speaker 1: T shirt on the sidelines, so I just wanted to
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Oh, no problem, you're welcomes. Yeah. My question
Speaker 1: is for this week, for this game against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I know Marshawn Lynch, you know you guys have been
Speaker 1: talking about him. We need to stop that run. Do
Speaker 1: you guys think that he's gonna be that effective or
Speaker 1: do you think it's just gonna be the old Raiders
Speaker 1: we've seen all year and play the way they've been playing.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna hang up and listen. Thank you. You
Speaker 1: know when you're six and seven. It I don't know
Speaker 1: how they've been playing all year, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: they've They've played some games where they've played well, and
Speaker 1: then they struggle, and then there's just like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: being How have the Cowboys been playing all year? It's
Speaker 1: some really good games or some bad games. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I know that he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of he doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: one hundred yard games. I believe he just had his
Speaker 1: first one two weeks ago. But he has scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown in the last three games. He's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: starting to look more like Beasts mode than it did
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. I worry like people are misconstruing
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I don't think Marshawn Lynch is
Speaker 1: going to take over this game like the by the
Speaker 1: expectation that you have for him. He's not having this
Speaker 1: amazing season, like I think he's got one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five carries for something like six or seven hundred yards,
Speaker 1: like he's averaging like fifty a game. But I think
Speaker 1: he has the potential to do that if you don't
Speaker 1: do your job right. And like I said, it's not
Speaker 1: so much that he just scares the crap out of me,
Speaker 1: but of the options on this offense, especially if a
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper's not playing, he's the one I'm worried about
Speaker 1: the most, and he's the one that I think can
Speaker 1: open up their offense for everything else. Like if if
Speaker 1: he's not having success, I think you can limit these
Speaker 1: Raider receivers. I just don't. They don't do a lot
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. I know this is not the answer
Speaker 1: that people want to hear, and quite frankly, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make for great radio when you do this, But in
Speaker 1: this instance, I think it's uniquely it makes the most
Speaker 1: sense when you're talking about these two teams in particular,
Speaker 1: to say we really don't know, and no one really does.
Speaker 1: Both these teams are so highly inconsistent this season that
Speaker 1: this could be a game where the Raiders offense gets off.
Speaker 1: This could be a game with the Raiders offense is
Speaker 1: completely shut down. It could be a game with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense completely gets off, and it's a game with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense is completely shut down. So it both
Speaker 1: these teams have been jeckelan high through parts of the season,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that there's anybody that has a
Speaker 1: really good handle on which team is going to show
Speaker 1: up for which team this week. So I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I feel really comfortable confident in
Speaker 1: saying that their offense will be great or their offense
Speaker 1: will suck. You know, Like we said with Crabtree earlier,
Speaker 1: he's not a great receiver, But it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: if he came in here and had several big catches
Speaker 1: and went over a hundred yards, that wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: Just based upon what I've seen this season, that would
Speaker 1: surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hear what you're saying, though, these
Speaker 1: are the two most disappointing and inconsistent teams based on
Speaker 1: what the preseason expectations were in the league and the
Speaker 1: way they've played. Like I know, we've watched all these
Speaker 1: Cowboys games and it's just like you can't get a
Speaker 1: real handle on them. I can't can't get a real
Speaker 1: handle on when they're going to really show up and
Speaker 1: play great versus when they're not. That's where it becomes
Speaker 1: very difficult to try to And you've got two teams
Speaker 1: like that in this instance, you just don't know. I
Speaker 1: just don't think it's hard. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: let's take a quiet question from Twitter. Well, we've talked
Speaker 1: about being predictable before a while back. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think that the reason as to why wide receivers are
Speaker 1: not able to have the success they should be having
Speaker 1: is it because the offense has become too predictable for
Speaker 1: the opposing defenses? You know what, there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for the pro We do what we do, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We go out there, we
Speaker 1: don't worry about the other team. We worry about ourselves.
Speaker 1: And there are teams with twenty members, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're coaching you know, staffs that that are looking at
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, the quality control, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for that that
Speaker 1: they are they when you kind of stick to your
Speaker 1: guns and you kind of focus on yourself, you get
Speaker 1: other people focusing on you as well. And I do
Speaker 1: think that they are somewhat predictable. We sit in the
Speaker 1: press box and we we have a good idea of
Speaker 1: what some plays are going to be. We talked based
Speaker 1: on personnel, based off personnel, based off of just well
Speaker 1: this is going to be, you know, and Brian, we
Speaker 1: don't sit with Brian. I'm not sure Brian does it
Speaker 1: almost every other play. Yeah, so one thing, Well, there's
Speaker 1: other teams that are probably that can can see it too.
Speaker 1: Have you guys noticed though, and we just talked about
Speaker 1: that one play to Rod Smith, there have been, it
Speaker 1: seems to me, in the last week or so, there
Speaker 1: have been some moments when it seems like they've tried
Speaker 1: some things that they haven't been used to, that they
Speaker 1: haven't done it customarily this season. Have you guys noticed
Speaker 1: the same thing or is that just like one play
Speaker 1: and otherwise they've just done basically the same thing. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to put you on the spot, but like,
Speaker 1: do you have an example? I mean, I thought of
Speaker 1: some other things last week I can't remember right off hand,
Speaker 1: but it seemed like there were a couple other plays
Speaker 1: that it was similar where they did something a little
Speaker 1: different than they normally would do. Oh was it the
Speaker 1: the catch by Beasley where they ran a M I
Speaker 1: can't remember. I can't remember. I'll need to go back
Speaker 1: and look. Lenahan's pretty reliable to add like two or
Speaker 1: three wrinkles to a game plan while keeping it largely familiar.
Speaker 1: Maybe did they do like they faked the reverse? I
Speaker 1: think in this in this past game, maybe with Dez. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I mean they've run the play, just
Speaker 1: not necessarily. Those guys, they there's there's a two or
Speaker 1: three wrinkles every week, but like it looks familiar, and
Speaker 1: I mean that's their big thing. I think we talked
Speaker 1: about that a week or two ago. It's where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: are you committed to your identity or are you just stubborn?
Speaker 1: And I think that that's a hard line to ride,
Speaker 1: And I agree with Nick that a lot of times
Speaker 1: they fall more on the stubborn side of things, which
Speaker 1: which I think it's been the narrative most of the season.
Speaker 1: I'm really more talking about in the last game or
Speaker 1: so have they Has there been anything else that made
Speaker 1: you kind of say, well, maybe they are trying something
Speaker 1: a little different. Maybe not nothing that, you know, a
Speaker 1: fleeing that really would work. Saw it last night. Nothing
Speaker 1: that really jumped. Which it's funny because you know, and
Speaker 1: you know they made the play. It's awesome, it's great. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't seen a lot of the past
Speaker 1: of the running back, like like Rod Smith was like,
Speaker 1: I never get that ball in practice. Like He's like,
Speaker 1: I was shocked. And if you go they did a
Speaker 1: miked up feature. Gary Brown was like, I think he
Speaker 1: asked Dak. He was like, why did you throw it
Speaker 1: to Rod? Like obviously it's good, but we like, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: but it happened. What did you see? So even when
Speaker 1: they do something new, yeah, maybe not so much, you know,
Speaker 1: like Dak just did Yeah, Dak was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: do something here, right he is spitting the trash can
Speaker 1: and he made it and he knew he was on
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Did he say that I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it? Yeah? He I thought this is everybody has
Speaker 1: seen this by now because it was on a Showtime
Speaker 1: miked up feature and all that he's sitting with Lenahan
Speaker 1: and he's got gum which is nasty, and he like
Speaker 1: spits it into the trash that don't know Nick anyways,
Speaker 1: but he makes it and he's like, I'm on, coach,
Speaker 1: I'm on it right in the track, you know. And
Speaker 1: of course lenahanded with his you know, with Lenahan personality,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, did you good? He's like, yeah, I'm on,
Speaker 1: I'm hitting it today. I'm feeling good today. So okay,
Speaker 1: that was it? Cool. It's funny. The little thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, whatever, Well, what would have been interesting
Speaker 1: is is what if he would have missed? Does he
Speaker 1: go pick it up? Like the coke? Me out, coach?
Speaker 1: I don't know, me out, I'm feeling it. No. I
Speaker 1: remember I'm talking about last year when he when he
Speaker 1: got through something on the cup and he did he
Speaker 1: had to go pick it up. But are you gonna go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you go pick up up. Definitely don't want to leave
Speaker 1: gum on the ground because somebody's gonna step on. Just
Speaker 1: just not chew it. He looks so bothered he does.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know. It's really there's
Speaker 1: so many other things that are more disgusting than that. Anyway, Amber. Oh, actually,
Speaker 1: we got another phone call. We got a call. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tie in Georgia. Tye it, that's it, tie us up, Hey,
Speaker 1: ty Sorry, Hey, how y'all doing good? Are you? I
Speaker 1: just want to say I really enjoy your show and
Speaker 1: appreciate all the hard work y'all put into it. Thank
Speaker 1: thank you. We appreciate you listening. All right. I've got
Speaker 1: a frustration and it's a question I hope y'all can answer.
Speaker 1: I get so frustrated when I hear people like Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchens or DeMarcus Lawrence they're getting to a contract state
Speaker 1: and we've we've brought them up and they're great talent,
Speaker 1: and we know what they are, and then they tell
Speaker 1: us we can't afford them. What can we do to
Speaker 1: get to the point where we can afford them? Thanks,
Speaker 1: and I'll hang up. Let's be clear, I've never heard
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Well I shouldn't say never. There have been
Speaker 1: very few instances where the Cowboys couldn't afford a player
Speaker 1: that they really really want it. Yeah, And so when
Speaker 1: you hear anybody say well they can't afford them and
Speaker 1: they walk, then it's because the Cowboys didn't value them
Speaker 1: at whatever that amount was, that they were able to walk.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point, and I'm guilty of that.
Speaker 1: I say stuff like they can't afford him all the time,
Speaker 1: and that's not really what I mean. What I mean
Speaker 1: is a guy like Anthony Hitchins, and this is this
Speaker 1: is spitballing. We I can't predict to a certainty how
Speaker 1: it's going to play out. But when you say they
Speaker 1: can't afford him, it means Anthony Hitchins is probably going
Speaker 1: to command a price that they're not willing to pay
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about the rest of your salary cap
Speaker 1: and thinking about where they value him with what else
Speaker 1: they have on the roster, and all I mean, they
Speaker 1: could absolutely afford him. If if they were just hell
Speaker 1: been that Anthony Hitchins was going to be a cowboy
Speaker 1: for life, they could absolutely afford him. They could have
Speaker 1: afforded Barry Church. But Jacksonville comes in with thirty million guaranteed,
Speaker 1: and you look and say, well, we're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to give Zach that extension. If we do that,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be able to franchise somebody next year.
Speaker 1: If we do that, it's all And that's that is
Speaker 1: the day of the NFL is allocating your salary cap,
Speaker 1: your top fifty one contracts, making it all makes sense
Speaker 1: not just for twenty eighteen, but for the four years
Speaker 1: beyond that. So they I mean, they could absolutely afford
Speaker 1: these guys. It's just a matter of what do you prioritize.
Speaker 1: That's why I think we would all agree one way
Speaker 1: or another. It's a foregone conclusion that DeMarcus Lawrence is
Speaker 1: on this team next year, whether he's tagged or extended.
Speaker 1: If they let him go after Jerry's been talking about
Speaker 1: this war Daddy and talking about getting a pass rusher
Speaker 1: for for whatever amount of time they let him walk
Speaker 1: for whatever price, I think I would be shocked. Problem,
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I'll be shocked if they don't
Speaker 1: resign Hitchens. Really yeah, really on the team. Thank you
Speaker 1: have to. I think Dave said it best yesterday or
Speaker 1: two days ago. I guess you just can't. It was
Speaker 1: yesterday I was listening you said you just can't go
Speaker 1: win too next year with Shaun Lee and Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: You can't do it well. But it hasn't given you
Speaker 1: anything to show that he can stay healthy all the time.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith hasn't showed that he isn't ready to be
Speaker 1: the Jalen Smith he was in college. Anthony Hitchens, I
Speaker 1: think you need him, But wouldn't the draft be your
Speaker 1: your answer there? Rather than paying whenever that price it
Speaker 1: was with Wilbur like it was with Damien and Wilson. No,
Speaker 1: you have to draft higher. You got to get a
Speaker 1: better quality player. So would you not? Would you not?
Speaker 1: Would you not invest the first round pick in a
Speaker 1: linebacker at this point? I think you got other issues.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna do that, I'd rather resign. Anthony Hitchins,
Speaker 1: I hear it. It's it's gonna. I think the price
Speaker 1: matter than done. I get it. I think the price matters.
Speaker 1: Do it now? Okay, try now see what happened. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he would do that either. Predictions. I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys win by twenty twenty seventy seven. Oh,
Speaker 1: holy cow, Trent, seventy seven. This is their time, believe
Speaker 1: in it. That's what i's twenty four twenty. I do
Speaker 1: think they find a way to win. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, take your pick, neither one of you.
Speaker 1: I don't like you said. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: expect from either of these times. Okay, twenty seventeen Cowboys,
Speaker 1: some cool pick by a corner rookie, he'll score a
Speaker 1: touch them, all right. I think Cowboys win thirty one twenty.
Speaker 1: I think they get back into the thirty. So, like
Speaker 1: I think offensively, the Cowboys are gonna I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna figure it out against this defense, and
Speaker 1: I think they'll score some points. Um, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna They're probably got more confidence than they've had in
Speaker 1: a long time offensively, uh with since certainly since Zeke
Speaker 1: has been out, I think they're starting to kind of
Speaker 1: fill it offensively. So I don't think it. I just
Speaker 1: don't think this this run is over yet, and they
Speaker 1: may not make it to the playoffs, but I think
Speaker 1: the next few games are gonna matter, all right, they
Speaker 1: run away with it. I hope you're right. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys joining us. We will be back Monday. Monday will
Speaker 1: tell you what wouldn't right now? Who else is gonna
Speaker 1: be back day? Zeke will be back in the building.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely have some stuff around Zeke when he returns
Speaker 1: to the Star on Monday. Until then, for Nick Even,
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