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Speaker 1: I am Joshua B. One and each week on this show,
Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,
Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a
Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, great news
Speaker 1: on testing my alien DNA sword. Oh what a what
Speaker 1: a story? And I guess I should recap for you
Speaker 1: what has been happening since last year because last year
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I published an episode of this
Speaker 1: podcast called Strange Things Episode one eighty three, and it
Speaker 1: was titled Dead Aliens. You won't believe what Joshua received.
Speaker 1: That was posted April nineteenth of twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: I told the story one of the most bizarre I've
Speaker 1: ever heard of. A man named John Edmonds who he
Speaker 1: worked for a long time as a counselor and a therapist,
Speaker 1: and in his late thirties, he decided he wanted a
Speaker 1: more natural life out in the country, and so he
Speaker 1: and his wife decided to buy this ranch about an
Speaker 1: hour's drive outside of Phoenix, Arizona, called Stardust Ranch, and
Speaker 1: this is a very remote area, and so it was
Speaker 1: a big property, ten acres. The house was like three
Speaker 1: and a half thousand square feet, five bedrooms, three bathrooms,
Speaker 1: large storage area, swimming pool, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: The idea was that they were going to open up
Speaker 1: some stables there and they would make money by selling
Speaker 1: horse riding trips and that kind of stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: He had ideas for how he could profit from living there.
Speaker 1: And when he and his wife bought the house, they
Speaker 1: were told they found out that it did have a
Speaker 1: spooky history. The house had been built in the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 1: and so he bought this house around nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: So the house had been around for a while, and
Speaker 1: apparently at some point, I think in the seventies, there
Speaker 1: was a suicide in the house. A young man killed himself,
Speaker 1: and so the house already had a spooky reputation. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: you know, this was his dream come true. But they
Speaker 1: started to regret it very quickly because when they really
Speaker 1: got settled in was sure enough they started having all
Speaker 1: kinds of bizarre, creepy things happening. At first, it was
Speaker 1: you know, more moderate stuff, ghostly stuff like shadows weaving around,
Speaker 1: objects being displaced, all that, and then things just continued
Speaker 1: to escalate. At one point, there was this weird man
Speaker 1: who just showed up wandering around his property. The man
Speaker 1: was he looked all disheveled, and he looked he had
Speaker 1: a distant look in his eye, and he was carrying
Speaker 1: a machetty. And John said, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: the guy says, oh, I'm the one who kills the monsters. Okay.
Speaker 1: So all this kind of bizarre stuff continued, continued to
Speaker 1: intensify until finally he and his wife started being abducted
Speaker 1: by aliens at night in their bedroom. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: about you know, it may have first been dreamlike experiences,
Speaker 1: but very quickly they realized, oh no, no, there are real
Speaker 1: physical aliens coming into the house at night. And that's
Speaker 1: when the aliens began to show themselves frequently, and he
Speaker 1: said that they were just as physical as you and
Speaker 1: I are, and he was doing his best to kill them.
Speaker 1: He shot numerous aliens on numerous occasions. He said that
Speaker 1: did not seem to phase them, and so he was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to handle the situation. You
Speaker 1: can't just usually call the cops and say, hey, I
Speaker 1: have these aliens showing up and harassing me on my
Speaker 1: farm every night. Well, long story short, he ended up
Speaker 1: obtaining a sword. It was a sword that just kind
Speaker 1: of the way. He described that he was driving down
Speaker 1: a road one day and there was a truck in
Speaker 1: front of him that had big bundles of stuff, and
Speaker 1: he knew something was going to fall off, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: an object fell off, and it was this Samurai sword.
Speaker 1: Samurai STI elseword, and he felt like this was a
Speaker 1: gift from God. And so after that, the next time
Speaker 1: he saw an alien in his house or on his property,
Speaker 1: in both cases he found that he could he could
Speaker 1: kill them with this sword. Okay, he could cut their
Speaker 1: head off. And so the weirdest thing, however, is that
Speaker 1: after the alien, After an alien would die shortly thereafter,
Speaker 1: he said that its physical remains would vanish, almost like
Speaker 1: it just wasn't actually going to be rooted in this domain,
Speaker 1: but they would leave fluids and tissues behind. And so
Speaker 1: he actually got in touch with a doctor, doctor W. C. Levinood,
Speaker 1: who analyzed some of the fluid and said that this
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing he'd ever seen, that this DNA
Speaker 1: seemed to be a combination of what we would consider
Speaker 1: plant and animal. And then right after that, doctor Levin
Speaker 1: Goood died and then his wife died. Now Ghost Adventures,
Speaker 1: Zach Began's show did an episode about the story. It
Speaker 1: was season fifteen, episode three, at least that's on That's
Speaker 1: how it's listed on a Roku Disney Plus. That episode
Speaker 1: is called Stardust Ranch and I think it originally aired
Speaker 1: July thirtieth of twenty sixteen. And edmund was talking about
Speaker 1: using this sort to kill the aliens and telling the
Speaker 1: story right, John Edmunds. It's easy to say John edmund
Speaker 1: It's John Edmunds. So they tried to sell the place
Speaker 1: and nobody wanted it. I can see why. And then
Speaker 1: when he was I think in his early sixties, he died.
Speaker 1: John Edmunds died February of twenty twenty two. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how he died, but as soon as he was dead,
Speaker 1: his wife just got up and left everything. And it
Speaker 1: was the price dropped it dramatically, and nobody wanted this.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is what you would maybe call
Speaker 1: a stigmatized property. But anyway, all this stuff was sitting
Speaker 1: inside the place was left vacant, nobody knew what to
Speaker 1: do with it. And then I got contacted by some
Speaker 1: paranormal investigators last year named Nathan and Aine, and they
Speaker 1: said they had something amazing to tell me about. And
Speaker 1: I should also mention I don't want to forget this.
Speaker 1: If you really want the details on this story, there's
Speaker 1: a book you can get on Amazon. It's called Stardust
Speaker 1: Ranch The Incredible True Story, and it is an incredible story.
Speaker 1: So that's a book written by John Edmonds with Bruce McDonald. So,
Speaker 1: Nathan and Angel they said that they worked for this
Speaker 1: company that would go to places that had sort of
Speaker 1: been abandoned and then they would I guess their job
Speaker 1: was to go in and clean them out and see
Speaker 1: how much could be liquidated and sort of repossess everything
Speaker 1: on behalf of the bank. And Nathan said that when
Speaker 1: he went in there, he was just amazed at how
Speaker 1: intact everything was, how literally it looked like John Edmond's
Speaker 1: wife had just gotten up and walked out. And there
Speaker 1: was still like, you know, food in the fridge, and
Speaker 1: there were there were all kinds of you know, expensive
Speaker 1: electronics around vic there were cameras, but the cameras, I
Speaker 1: think he said, didn't have any footage in them, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of weird. So anyway, as they were going
Speaker 1: through the house, well guess what they find. Nathan and
Speaker 1: Angel found what appears to be a samurai sword. Okay,
Speaker 1: a samurai sword. And this thing looks like it's been
Speaker 1: through some rough times. It's got some scratches on it,
Speaker 1: and it's got all kinds of weird stains that look
Speaker 1: a lot like blood. And fortunately Nathan and Angel are
Speaker 1: big fans of the show and support my work, and
Speaker 1: they said, you know, we don't know the proper way
Speaker 1: to test this thing, so we'd like to give you
Speaker 1: this sword, Joshua, and and see if you can find
Speaker 1: out you know, more about it and what's what this
Speaker 1: material is that's on it. So he was very very
Speaker 1: kind ship this sword to me. You can imagine how
Speaker 1: excited I was to open that package. And I told him,
Speaker 1: you know, even though it was a gift, I felt
Speaker 1: I needed to pay him something for it. And so
Speaker 1: then I began the process of getting this thing DNA analyzed,
Speaker 1: and I thought this is going to be a breeze.
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to analyze this thing?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong. When we come back, though, I'm
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Speaker 1: day is golden and every night is silver. Getato zume,
Speaker 1: And think of how excited I was this guy John Edmonds,
Speaker 1: who for years owned this infamous ranch. He was all
Speaker 1: over the place. He wrote this book called Stardust Ranch,
Speaker 1: The Incredible True Story. He was on TV shows like
Speaker 1: Ghost Adventures, a major show. He was interviewed by the
Speaker 1: great Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM and told
Speaker 1: his story. And he always talked about how he would
Speaker 1: use this sword or a sword to kill these aliens.
Speaker 1: And I've got this sword, I say, well, I've got
Speaker 1: a famous sword here, so that means that I should
Speaker 1: easily be able to get this thing properly tested. Because
Speaker 1: who out there in the DNA world would not want
Speaker 1: the opportunity to test a sword, a famous sword with
Speaker 1: some kind of tissue or fluid on it, given this
Speaker 1: this story that's been around forever. I mean, who wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to do that? And it turns out that I
Speaker 1: have a couple of contacts in the scientific field. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I know that there are people out
Speaker 1: there who call themselves DNA analyst or DNA specialist, but
Speaker 1: a lot of them are not actually that accredited, all right.
Speaker 1: So in other words, they may just they may be
Speaker 1: either amateurs or they just kind of they work very
Speaker 1: very independently without a lot of peer review, or they
Speaker 1: are just strictly into the paranormal and say a lot
Speaker 1: of fanciful things. So I was like, no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to waste this opportunity on somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I want to go to, you know, a real doctor
Speaker 1: at a real university, you know, mainstream university, and have
Speaker 1: this done the kind of thing that you might see
Speaker 1: done if you were making a documentary for the National
Speaker 1: Geographic Channel or something like that. I think it rises
Speaker 1: to that level of interest and significance. So I have
Speaker 1: a couple of contacts in the the mainstream university world,
Speaker 1: the collegiate world, and I thought, okay, well that's that.
Speaker 1: I'll contact them and we'll get the ball rolling and
Speaker 1: figure out what we need to do. So I contacted
Speaker 1: them and said, he guess watch, you know, I've got
Speaker 1: this marvelous thing, this great opportunity. What do we need
Speaker 1: to do to get it tested here? And I was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to pay whatever and it is necessary.
Speaker 1: And I was shocked when both of them were like, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: can't do that. Why why why not? Like, well, because
Speaker 1: it's like we know what you do, Joshua, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate what you do. But if we start associating ourselves
Speaker 1: with this kind of thing, then it's jeopardizing our credibility
Speaker 1: and so we just can't do it. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a livelihood, that kind of thing. And I understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean because look, to me, the paranormal is normal
Speaker 1: at this point. Everybody is not like that, okay, And
Speaker 1: you have these people who are highly qualified, who spent
Speaker 1: years in school, and they're trying to get ten year
Speaker 1: at a university or something, and they don't want to
Speaker 1: jeopardize it over something that might make them look silly.
Speaker 1: I've encountered this kind of thing over the years, and
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that holds back paranormal research.
Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, that's fine, that's okay. It
Speaker 1: should be easy to find somebody out there. So I
Speaker 1: started contacting other places, other credible organizations, let's just put
Speaker 1: it that way. And I just kept hitting roadblock after roadblock,
Speaker 1: and it was the same old thing. Now, sure, like
Speaker 1: you can go and you have like DNA tested for
Speaker 1: paternity or something like that to see who the father
Speaker 1: of a kid is or something. But you see, here's
Speaker 1: the problem that people don't A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: realize that this is the problem when it comes to
Speaker 1: DNA testing weird things. DNA, the process of DNA science
Speaker 1: is great at matching up to things. So let's say
Speaker 1: you have you have well, like on a crime scene. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have a fluid or something or a hair on
Speaker 1: a crime scene, and you can take that and then
Speaker 1: take a piece of DNA from this individual and see
Speaker 1: if they match up. That is very effective. And you
Speaker 1: can also match DNA to a known animal. So let's say,
Speaker 1: you know, if you go out there and you get
Speaker 1: a frog and we all agree this is a frog.
Speaker 1: It's a real frog, and you get that frog's DNA
Speaker 1: and you say, here's what that That frog's DNA looks
Speaker 1: like this. You put that into the DNA catalog and
Speaker 1: from there on, if you have a mysterious DNA, you
Speaker 1: can say, well this we look at look at this.
Speaker 1: It matched up with the frog. But if there is
Speaker 1: no accepted specimen of something that exists out there, then
Speaker 1: a scientist doesn't have anything to match the DNA with.
Speaker 1: And so it's like, how do how do we know
Speaker 1: if this is an alien's DNA? If you don't have
Speaker 1: a dead alien specimen out there and you can that
Speaker 1: you could compare this with. And this goes for bigfoot,
Speaker 1: and it's like you here are these people say, look,
Speaker 1: we have bigfoot DNA. Well maybe you believe that because
Speaker 1: maybe you've got some weird DNA, but if you can't
Speaker 1: compare it to a bigfoot specimen, you can't say this
Speaker 1: is bigfoot DNA, and that goes for all cryptids. And
Speaker 1: this is the challenge when it comes to getting people
Speaker 1: who are credible to want to test these bizarre, unknown
Speaker 1: varieties of DNA. And so I get that, I understand it.
Speaker 1: And the limitations of DNA technology are they're they're much
Speaker 1: much more, they're much broader than you might think. And
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, as you can tell by by
Speaker 1: trying to do this, because I'd never tried to pursue
Speaker 1: having something like this DNA tested before. I thought it
Speaker 1: would be relatively easy, because hey, you know, I have
Speaker 1: this show here, I work with Coast to Coast AM
Speaker 1: and people know who I am and what I do
Speaker 1: and my stories out there, and you know it's it's
Speaker 1: it's something of public interest, and you know what. I
Speaker 1: started trying and trying and trying to get somebody credible
Speaker 1: to take a look at this, and it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 1: And I finally got a referral to a professor at
Speaker 1: a mainstream university. And this is this is after months
Speaker 1: of trying, because I was not going to just hand
Speaker 1: the sword off to somebody or even take an unnecessary
Speaker 1: swab unless it was somebody who was really credible and
Speaker 1: somebody who would at least be willing to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to put my reputation on the line to
Speaker 1: say that what we have here is DNA that seems unusual.
Speaker 1: And scientists don't like to admit when they don't know things,
Speaker 1: but they do exist. There are scientists out there who
Speaker 1: are real explorers, real investigators, real researchers. They're willing to
Speaker 1: take some risks with their reputation perhaps, and they're willing
Speaker 1: to say I don't know what this is. And so
Speaker 1: I contacted this professor. Let's see, I got in touch
Speaker 1: with him November of last year, twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: he works with the forensic doctors at this major mainstream
Speaker 1: university here in the United States. And I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I have this famous sword blah blah blah, here's the
Speaker 1: whole story. Listen to the podcast I did. I have
Speaker 1: not allowed anyone to do a DNA test on these
Speaker 1: stains yet, Are you interested? Do you know someone who is?
Speaker 1: And he at first he said yes, but you know,
Speaker 1: I need to have some meetings with this this committee
Speaker 1: where we go over what we agree to test. And
Speaker 1: he's like I said, all right, fine, So, like you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks go by and I haven't heard anything,
Speaker 1: and he's and then he says like, well, look, real
Speaker 1: science takes time. And I was like, okay with this
Speaker 1: guy is just another guy who's just given me the
Speaker 1: run around here, and uh, I just figured it, well,
Speaker 1: I will just hang on to this sword until the
Speaker 1: day comes when you know, somebody will who's who's in
Speaker 1: the right position, will contact me about it, about testing it.
Speaker 1: And then, much to my surprise, much to my surprise,
Speaker 1: just days ago, I got an email from this professor
Speaker 1: at this university and he's he I've got his email
Speaker 1: in front of me. He says, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your stream patience. I was hoping to have things
Speaker 1: together to send to you to swab the sword in January,
Speaker 1: but for a number of reasons, including my building being
Speaker 1: unexpectedly shut down for urgent repairs, I only now have
Speaker 1: this ready to send to you. He says, Please send
Speaker 1: me your best address. I am sending you two sterile
Speaker 1: collection tubes with swabs built in, he said, you only
Speaker 1: need one, but this way you'll have an extra iNeST
Speaker 1: in case. I'm going to send you one small vial
Speaker 1: of DNA free water. I'll send you directions for collecting
Speaker 1: and submitting the sample. It's like it's happening. It's happening.
Speaker 1: We're up on a break. When we come back, i'll
Speaker 1: tell you what the next step is going to be here,
Speaker 1: and then I want to tell you something that I've
Speaker 1: learned about these companies that you may have come across
Speaker 1: that promise you that if you can you give them
Speaker 1: their DNA, they can give you a complete rundown of
Speaker 1: like your health. Sounds a little fishy, doesn't it. I'm
Speaker 1: Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the
Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM para normal podcast network,
Speaker 1: and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Strange Things. I'm the iHeart Radio and Coast to
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Speaker 1: pe Warren, and this is the show where the on
Speaker 1: becomes usual. What a year I have had. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you have listened to this show regularly, I mean
Speaker 1: it's just been one breakthrough after another, or at least
Speaker 1: you know. Here, here's the thing I have to follow
Speaker 1: very strict instructions, which I'm very happy to do in
Speaker 1: order to properly test to to like, you know, swab
Speaker 1: this sword. And I am going to videotape myself doing
Speaker 1: it so that there's no question that the samples have
Speaker 1: been collected properly. So I'm keeping the sword. I'm not
Speaker 1: sending the sword in. You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: chance that. And then so I'm sending these samples and
Speaker 1: then I don't know how long I'll have to wait,
Speaker 1: but I know they are going to a a real
Speaker 1: forensics department with real doctors at a real university who
Speaker 1: are saying they're going to examine this, and they haven't
Speaker 1: asked for any money. I should be receiving their kit
Speaker 1: any day now. And you know the question is, well,
Speaker 1: what are they going to find? And here's here's here. Honestly,
Speaker 1: here's my thinking on this. I do people are probably
Speaker 1: shocked to hear this, but I do understand and believe
Speaker 1: deeply in the scientific method. And a part of thinking
Speaker 1: that way is considering what's known as Ockham's razor, and
Speaker 1: that is that the likeliest explanation is usually the correct one.
Speaker 1: That if you have something sounds like it's wrapping on
Speaker 1: your wall at night. Maybe it's a ghost, but maybe
Speaker 1: it's more likely that you have a pipe or something
Speaker 1: like that that is creaking under certain circumstances. So you
Speaker 1: have to see what the likeliest thing is. So look,
Speaker 1: I would not be a bit surprised if they come
Speaker 1: back and say, well, you know, this guy lived on
Speaker 1: a ranch. I mean, I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: out there killing chickens or something. It's like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they say this is chicken blood or
Speaker 1: or either human blood or who knows. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy could have been making everything up and he could
Speaker 1: have just smeared some blood from the butcher shop on
Speaker 1: this thing. So I mean, and that's fine because I
Speaker 1: feel like that one way or another, this mystery is
Speaker 1: going to be solved because they're either going to come
Speaker 1: back and they're going to say basically one of three things.
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, uh, yeah, this is blood from a
Speaker 1: from a hog or whatever, or they're gonna say this
Speaker 1: is uh the sample is not even DNA, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough shape to test. We couldn't tell anything
Speaker 1: about it, so we can't conclude anything, or they're going
Speaker 1: to say, this appears to be DNA, but we can't
Speaker 1: match it to anything in the catalog, and that would
Speaker 1: be the coolest outcome, because I think that would be
Speaker 1: about the best that we could get from this. But
Speaker 1: you know what, if you had a credible university that
Speaker 1: collected something like that, then at least it would allow
Speaker 1: them to go forth and maybe start comparing other supposed
Speaker 1: alien blood or whatever that's found in other sites where
Speaker 1: people have had these encounters, and that would be very interesting.
Speaker 1: So I'm fortunate that you know, the scientists are telling
Speaker 1: me right now that they are open minded to tackle
Speaker 1: this and do it properly, and so yes, you will
Speaker 1: be the first to know the results. So be sure
Speaker 1: to sign up for my free and spam free e
Speaker 1: news that are right there on the homepage at Joshua
Speaker 1: pe Warren, because that'll be the fastest way for me
Speaker 1: to get the word to you. But here's what I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up to you now that I've been
Speaker 1: sort of studying and I'm by no means a DNA expert,
Speaker 1: but you know, I've been looking into this a lot
Speaker 1: more than the average person, as you can tell, and
Speaker 1: my wife Lauren. She contacted me a while back, and
Speaker 1: she was telling me about some of these kits that
Speaker 1: she'd seen out there on the marketplace. There are companies
Speaker 1: that say that you can get a kit and send
Speaker 1: them some of your DNA and they can turn around
Speaker 1: and give you an analysis of all of your sort
Speaker 1: of health issues that you may or may not be
Speaker 1: prone to have. And that's because I have a lot
Speaker 1: of quirky health issues. I don't want to get into
Speaker 1: all that right now, but you know, I was I
Speaker 1: almost died when I was born. Every time the doctor
Speaker 1: was trying to deliver me, the biblical cord was pulling
Speaker 1: me back in and choking me to death. It was
Speaker 1: around my neck several times. My dad said that when
Speaker 1: I finally was released, that I had purple splotches all
Speaker 1: over my head and they had to put me in
Speaker 1: some kind of chamber and so that I came into
Speaker 1: the world with difficulty, you know. So it's it's always
Speaker 1: been a little weird for me. So Lauren was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, have you seen these kits that these companies
Speaker 1: are providing where it would be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: they could tell you, you know, if you have some kind
Speaker 1: of you know, genetic quirks. I'm a weirdo anyway. So
Speaker 1: and so I said, well, let me look into this.
Speaker 1: And here's what I have found. There is such a
Speaker 1: thing as d n a H testing for for health purposes.
Speaker 1: There are certain particular genes that you can look through
Speaker 1: that can be matched up with certain particular conditions. But
Speaker 1: from all the research that I've done, most of these
Speaker 1: doctors who are experts of this say this is we
Speaker 1: don't have the ability right now to honestly to take
Speaker 1: these companies seriously. For one thing, these companies they charge
Speaker 1: a lot of money, like for example, there's one on Amazon,
Speaker 1: and I think the cheapest you can get one of
Speaker 1: their kids for is six hundred dollars. And then once
Speaker 1: they send you the results, well now you also have
Speaker 1: to subscribe and continue paying them. And so and I
Speaker 1: was looking at this kit all these kinds of kids
Speaker 1: that I found that they claim that they can do
Speaker 1: that give you a health profile like that. They don't
Speaker 1: have many reviews, and most of the reviews are bad.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that particular one that she
Speaker 1: sent me and I'm not going to use any names.
Speaker 1: I was just looking at it before the show it
Speaker 1: says right there on Amazon on frequently returned item, it
Speaker 1: only has thirteen reviews to and then it says frequently
Speaker 1: returned item. Well, I wonder why that is. And if
Speaker 1: you just start looking at the reviews of these things,
Speaker 1: then you'll you'll realize that there are a lot of
Speaker 1: problems there. Furthermore, there are experts at doctors who say,
Speaker 1: you can go to two of these different companies that
Speaker 1: are claiming to offer the same kind of service and
Speaker 1: then they will both send you back results that are different.
Speaker 1: So how should that happen? Who's you know, where's the
Speaker 1: credibility there? So from what I understand from talking you know,
Speaker 1: or and doing just doing research, is that look that
Speaker 1: Like I say, some of these health tests can provide
Speaker 1: insights into certain genetic predispositions and carrier status. But there
Speaker 1: are these commercial companies that are not intended to diagnose diseases.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of factors that may affect how
Speaker 1: the results are interpreted. And there are a lot of
Speaker 1: doctors who say that this can cause big problems because
Speaker 1: if they send you some kind of information and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're inclined to have some kind of a health problem,
Speaker 1: now you start freaking out and it becomes a self
Speaker 1: fulfilling prophecy. And so most doctors out there, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say there are some mixed results,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, the technology just isn't there yet.
Speaker 1: But you know, now that I have a legitimate DNA
Speaker 1: expert that I'm going to be able to correspond with,
Speaker 1: at some point I will ask the real experts to
Speaker 1: give an opinion on that. And you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't talk about health stuff, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give you kind of any health advice. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you what I found that I don't I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you could do it, you know, for a hundred
Speaker 1: bucks or whatever, and it might be an interesting novelty,
Speaker 1: and especially if you don't have to like sign up
Speaker 1: and subscribe to some service. But right now, everybody's just like,
Speaker 1: look that we don't have the credible commercial companies out
Speaker 1: there that can fulfill what they're offering, especially for the
Speaker 1: prices they're charging. And again it kind of goes back
Speaker 1: to like DNA people they hear about it all the time.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, crime's got solved. So they think if
Speaker 1: DNA is brought up something is automatically credible. But that's
Speaker 1: what they actually understand very little about what the strengths
Speaker 1: and weaknesses of DNA are. And like I say, it's
Speaker 1: mainly for matching up things, matching up known variables, matching
Speaker 1: up certain types of people with other types of people,
Speaker 1: or matching up a certain person with his or her
Speaker 1: own DNA. Or it can be used by medical professionals
Speaker 1: to go in and look at for very particular types
Speaker 1: of genes and anomalies and such that may apply to
Speaker 1: a very particular condition for a particular person. But I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to go spend money on that yet, and
Speaker 1: so that's just my opinion. But I'll let you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, if that changes is you know, the
Speaker 1: technology is changing at light speed. Okay, it's time for
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to end the show by catching up on some stuff
Speaker 1: that I call mental manner. These are things that I
Speaker 1: just like to talk about because well, the show is
Speaker 1: it's called strange things, and sometimes I just come across
Speaker 1: things that I think are odd. And I just discovered
Speaker 1: something odd the other day, something strange about Marguerita pizza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Margarita Pizza and it's that kind of a program. We
Speaker 1: can go anywhere we want. I wonder if you know
Speaker 1: this bit of trivia, and I've got some other mental
Speaker 1: manna for you as well. To end the show on
Speaker 1: a quirky note, why not. I'm Joshua Pee Warren, and
Speaker 1: you are listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast A and Paranormal Podcast Network, and I
Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment
Speaker 1: of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And here's something that's just been on
Speaker 1: my mind for a while. I was, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: about the idea of testing like DNA testing paranormal things.
Speaker 1: And I just want you to know that sometimes I
Speaker 1: hear people talk about, well, is is this is this
Speaker 1: a bigfoot? Or is this a paranormal thing? Or is
Speaker 1: this an alien or is this a paranormal thing or
Speaker 1: and you know what, in my mind, like paranormal means
Speaker 1: beyond normal. That kind of covers it all. So saying ghosts,
Speaker 1: UFOs and bigfoot and the paranormal is I guess it's
Speaker 1: kind of like saying Big Max whoppers and burgers. It's redundant.
Speaker 1: To me, it's all paranormal. It's either normal or it's
Speaker 1: not normal. And we can argue about what normal is
Speaker 1: and how to draw the line there. But to me,
Speaker 1: ghosts are paranormal. UFOs are paranormal. Bigfoot's paranormal, All cryptids
Speaker 1: are paranormal. If it's not if it falls outside of
Speaker 1: the average person's daily experience, we can call that paranormal.
Speaker 1: It's all paranormal, folks. And maybe you know, maybe this
Speaker 1: is just semantics and I'm splitting hairs here, but here's
Speaker 1: another tip that I will give those of you out
Speaker 1: there who fancy yourselves UFO and you a researchers. A
Speaker 1: lot of people say there was a craft over here
Speaker 1: flying through the air, and then they'll say, then they
Speaker 1: saw two crafts over there flying through the air. Well,
Speaker 1: as far as I understand, the plural of the word
Speaker 1: craft is craft, so you can say there's one craft
Speaker 1: over here or there are five craft over there, but
Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to say crafts. And also
Speaker 1: people mix up the word phenomenon, which is singular with
Speaker 1: phenomena and that's the plural. So it's like, we have
Speaker 1: a strange phenomenon happening on this mountain, and we have
Speaker 1: three strange phenomena happening over on that mountain. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a writer. I'm sorry, but I once in a
Speaker 1: while I think about how we we define these things.
Speaker 1: A lot of it begins, you know. We think about
Speaker 1: things often beginning with the how we the language and
Speaker 1: how we phrase it. There's a relationship between how we
Speaker 1: envisioned concepts and how we talk about these things. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's interesting and I think it's important.
Speaker 1: All right, now, time for some mental manna. And again,
Speaker 1: this is just stuff that it's not necessarily paranormal, but
Speaker 1: it's strange to me and stuff that I just kind
Speaker 1: of come across in my life. Who does it like pizza?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, do you know where
Speaker 1: the word pizza comes from? I wasn't sure, and then
Speaker 1: recently I was looking it up, says The oldest recorded
Speaker 1: usage of the word is thought to be from May
Speaker 1: nine ninety seven of CE. That's a long time ago,
Speaker 1: the year nine ninety seven. It appeared in a Latin
Speaker 1: document from part of the Byzantine Empire, but they think
Speaker 1: that the entomology it goes back to the Byzantine Greek
Speaker 1: and Late Latin, which basically they had a word piita
Speaker 1: for piita bread. We all have heard of pia bread
Speaker 1: around flat bread baked in the oven at high temperatures,
Speaker 1: and then occasionally I guess they would add toppings. And
Speaker 1: so I think piza is where the word pizza came from.
Speaker 1: Now you could say, well, where did peta come from?
Speaker 1: We could keep going down that rabbit hole. But that's
Speaker 1: all you need to know for now. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been, you know, being a typical American pig.
Speaker 1: You know, I like, I love those supreme pizzas that
Speaker 1: have all that all, like the meat lover stuff. I
Speaker 1: can't eat that as often as I want anymore. Now
Speaker 1: that I'm middle aged trying to take better care of myself,
Speaker 1: I don't know how well that's going. I'll have to
Speaker 1: go one of those DNA tasks. But I used to
Speaker 1: never order a margarita pizza and uh and I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about like a margarita drink. That's a different story.
Speaker 1: I believe that would drink was named after Oh, a
Speaker 1: prominent lady in Mexico. Another story for another day. But
Speaker 1: pizza Margarita known as Margarita pizza, that's spelled m A
Speaker 1: r g h E r I t A. It's it's
Speaker 1: a roundish pizza and it's considered a Neapolitan pizza and
Speaker 1: it's seasoned with hand crushed peeled tomatoes, mozzarella usually buffalo mozzarella,
Speaker 1: fresh basil leaves, and extra virgin olive oil. And apparently
Speaker 1: if you go you go back to the history of this.
Speaker 1: The story is that there was a Queen Margherita and
Speaker 1: back in eighteen eighty nine, who is visiting this town. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I should have brushed up on this a little bit better.
Speaker 1: She was visiting a town they were celebrating her, and
Speaker 1: so they asked one of the chefs to make a
Speaker 1: special pizza to honor her, which had the colors of
Speaker 1: the Italian flag, red for tomato, white from montzauela, and
Speaker 1: green for basil. And so they named it after the queen,
Speaker 1: the Margarita Pizza. Well, I tell you all this because
Speaker 1: I never again, I'd never really ordered margarita pizzas. But
Speaker 1: I was watching this YouTube video about restaurants in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas and there was this one food reviewer who is like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you have to go to this restaurant
Speaker 1: here on the strip where they make this margharita pizza
Speaker 1: and all the ingredients have to be exact to the
Speaker 1: standards of the margarita pizza in Italy from this little region,
Speaker 1: and that they have to import their their flour to
Speaker 1: make their dough, they have to import the cheese that like,
Speaker 1: you have to import everything. You have to put it
Speaker 1: in a certain type of oven for a certain period
Speaker 1: of times, like super strict standards, the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: you hear people apply to like maybe different types of
Speaker 1: waggu steaks, and she was just talking about how heavenly
Speaker 1: it is. Well, I figure, you know, I've not been
Speaker 1: to Italy, and I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: make it to Italy. So one day Lauren and I
Speaker 1: were in the area. We go, let's go there and
Speaker 1: see what this super authentic pizzas is as supposed to
Speaker 1: be like. So we go in there and they bring
Speaker 1: out this rather ordinary looking margherita pizza because they had
Speaker 1: so few toppings on him, and it was absolutely delicious,
Speaker 1: one of the best pizzas I've ever had. And I was,
Speaker 1: you know, really surprised by it was very light. It
Speaker 1: was not thick with all these toppings like we Americans are.
Speaker 1: So I started looking into this and I found one
Speaker 1: other restaurant where I went to where they have these
Speaker 1: same strict standards, and I found out that what you
Speaker 1: have possibly eaten or probably eaten your entire life, that
Speaker 1: you call a margarita pizza is not an authentic margarita
Speaker 1: because when you go to one of these places that
Speaker 1: has all the stuff imported, they have permission to call
Speaker 1: there as a margharita DOC. The DOC stands for the
Speaker 1: and I don't speak Italian, the nominacion the originic controller,
Speaker 1: which I means like domain of original control. That is
Speaker 1: an Italian designation of controlled origin, meaning the ingredients are
Speaker 1: from specific high quality regions and made to certain standards.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's like, this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: If you if you have this designation at your straw
Speaker 1: and you screw up, you know, you're blackballed basically. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, well this is and so I
Speaker 1: got one of these docs again and I was like, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like if this is one of the best
Speaker 1: pizzas I've ever had that margarita doc. So I started
Speaker 1: looking into the ingredients and I was like, okay, so
Speaker 1: it takes buffalo mozzarella. So I was talking to one
Speaker 1: of the servers and I was like, so, what's the
Speaker 1: story behind buffalo mozzarella And the server said, oh, it
Speaker 1: comes from buffaloes in Italy, and I was like what.
Speaker 1: Lauren and I both are like what. Sure enough, buffalo
Speaker 1: mozzarella is a mozzarella made from the milk of the
Speaker 1: Italian Mediterranean buffalo. It's a very particular thing from that region.
Speaker 1: They say that the history of why that there are
Speaker 1: water buffalo at Italy is not clear. One theory is
Speaker 1: that Asian water buffalo were brought to Ita by Goths
Speaker 1: during the migrations of the early medieval period. You can
Speaker 1: look into this yourself, but did you realize that when
Speaker 1: you if you order a margarita and it's got buffalo mozzarella,
Speaker 1: it's mozzarella that came from a water buffalo in Italy.
Speaker 1: Go get yourself a margarita. DC. All right, that's the
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