1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. This 11 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: is Strange with Joshua. 12 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: I am Joshua B. One and each week on this show, 13 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, 14 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 15 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, great news 16 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: on testing my alien DNA sword. Oh what a what 17 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: a story? And I guess I should recap for you 18 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: what has been happening since last year because last year 19 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I published an episode of this 20 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: podcast called Strange Things Episode one eighty three, and it 21 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: was titled Dead Aliens. You won't believe what Joshua received. 22 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: That was posted April nineteenth of twenty twenty four, and 23 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: I told the story one of the most bizarre I've 24 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: ever heard of. A man named John Edmonds who he 25 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: worked for a long time as a counselor and a therapist, 26 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: and in his late thirties, he decided he wanted a 27 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: more natural life out in the country, and so he 28 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and his wife decided to buy this ranch about an 29 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: hour's drive outside of Phoenix, Arizona, called Stardust Ranch, and 30 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: this is a very remote area, and so it was 31 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: a big property, ten acres. The house was like three 32 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: and a half thousand square feet, five bedrooms, three bathrooms, 33 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: large storage area, swimming pool, all that kind of stuff. 34 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: The idea was that they were going to open up 35 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: some stables there and they would make money by selling 36 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: horse riding trips and that kind of stuff. You know. 37 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: He had ideas for how he could profit from living there. 38 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: And when he and his wife bought the house, they 39 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: were told they found out that it did have a 40 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: spooky history. The house had been built in the nineteen seventies, 41 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: and so he bought this house around nineteen ninety six. 42 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: So the house had been around for a while, and 43 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: apparently at some point, I think in the seventies, there 44 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: was a suicide in the house. A young man killed himself, 45 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,559 Speaker 1: and so the house already had a spooky reputation. But nonetheless, 46 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, this was his dream come true. But they 47 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: started to regret it very quickly because when they really 48 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: got settled in was sure enough they started having all 49 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: kinds of bizarre, creepy things happening. At first, it was 50 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, more moderate stuff, ghostly stuff like shadows weaving around, 51 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: objects being displaced, all that, and then things just continued 52 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: to escalate. At one point, there was this weird man 53 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: who just showed up wandering around his property. The man 54 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: was he looked all disheveled, and he looked he had 55 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: a distant look in his eye, and he was carrying 56 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: a machetty. And John said, what are you doing? And 57 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: the guy says, oh, I'm the one who kills the monsters. Okay. 58 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: So all this kind of bizarre stuff continued, continued to 59 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: intensify until finally he and his wife started being abducted 60 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: by aliens at night in their bedroom. And I'm talking 61 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: about you know, it may have first been dreamlike experiences, 62 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: but very quickly they realized, oh no, no, there are real 63 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: physical aliens coming into the house at night. And that's 64 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: when the aliens began to show themselves frequently, and he 65 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: said that they were just as physical as you and 66 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: I are, and he was doing his best to kill them. 67 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: He shot numerous aliens on numerous occasions. He said that 68 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: did not seem to phase them, and so he was 69 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to handle the situation. You 70 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: can't just usually call the cops and say, hey, I 71 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: have these aliens showing up and harassing me on my 72 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: farm every night. Well, long story short, he ended up 73 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: obtaining a sword. It was a sword that just kind 74 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: of the way. He described that he was driving down 75 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: a road one day and there was a truck in 76 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: front of him that had big bundles of stuff, and 77 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: he knew something was going to fall off, and sure enough, 78 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: an object fell off, and it was this Samurai sword. 79 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Samurai STI elseword, and he felt like this was a 80 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: gift from God. And so after that, the next time 81 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: he saw an alien in his house or on his property, 82 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: in both cases he found that he could he could 83 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: kill them with this sword. Okay, he could cut their 84 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: head off. And so the weirdest thing, however, is that 85 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: after the alien, After an alien would die shortly thereafter, 86 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: he said that its physical remains would vanish, almost like 87 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: it just wasn't actually going to be rooted in this domain, 88 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: but they would leave fluids and tissues behind. And so 89 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: he actually got in touch with a doctor, doctor W. C. Levinood, 90 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: who analyzed some of the fluid and said that this 91 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing he'd ever seen, that this DNA 92 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: seemed to be a combination of what we would consider 93 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: plant and animal. And then right after that, doctor Levin 94 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Goood died and then his wife died. Now Ghost Adventures, 95 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Zach Began's show did an episode about the story. It 96 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: was season fifteen, episode three, at least that's on That's 97 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: how it's listed on a Roku Disney Plus. That episode 98 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: is called Stardust Ranch and I think it originally aired 99 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: July thirtieth of twenty sixteen. And edmund was talking about 100 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: using this sort to kill the aliens and telling the 101 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: story right, John Edmunds. It's easy to say John edmund 102 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: It's John Edmunds. So they tried to sell the place 103 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: and nobody wanted it. I can see why. And then 104 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: when he was I think in his early sixties, he died. 105 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: John Edmunds died February of twenty twenty two. I'm not 106 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: sure how he died, but as soon as he was dead, 107 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: his wife just got up and left everything. And it 108 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: was the price dropped it dramatically, and nobody wanted this. 109 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And you know, this is what you would maybe call 110 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a stigmatized property. But anyway, all this stuff was sitting 111 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: inside the place was left vacant, nobody knew what to 112 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: do with it. And then I got contacted by some 113 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: paranormal investigators last year named Nathan and Aine, and they 114 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: said they had something amazing to tell me about. And 115 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I should also mention I don't want to forget this. 116 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: If you really want the details on this story, there's 117 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,359 Speaker 1: a book you can get on Amazon. It's called Stardust 118 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: Ranch The Incredible True Story, and it is an incredible story. 119 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: So that's a book written by John Edmonds with Bruce McDonald. So, 120 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Nathan and Angel they said that they worked for this 121 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: company that would go to places that had sort of 122 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: been abandoned and then they would I guess their job 123 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: was to go in and clean them out and see 124 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: how much could be liquidated and sort of repossess everything 125 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: on behalf of the bank. And Nathan said that when 126 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: he went in there, he was just amazed at how 127 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: intact everything was, how literally it looked like John Edmond's 128 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: wife had just gotten up and walked out. And there 129 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: was still like, you know, food in the fridge, and 130 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: there were there were all kinds of you know, expensive 131 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: electronics around vic there were cameras, but the cameras, I 132 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: think he said, didn't have any footage in them, so 133 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of weird. So anyway, as they were going 134 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: through the house, well guess what they find. Nathan and 135 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Angel found what appears to be a samurai sword. Okay, 136 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: a samurai sword. And this thing looks like it's been 137 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: through some rough times. It's got some scratches on it, 138 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: and it's got all kinds of weird stains that look 139 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot like blood. And fortunately Nathan and Angel are 140 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: big fans of the show and support my work, and 141 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: they said, you know, we don't know the proper way 142 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: to test this thing, so we'd like to give you 143 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: this sword, Joshua, and and see if you can find 144 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: out you know, more about it and what's what this 145 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: material is that's on it. So he was very very 146 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: kind ship this sword to me. You can imagine how 147 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: excited I was to open that package. And I told him, 148 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, even though it was a gift, I felt 149 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: I needed to pay him something for it. And so 150 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: then I began the process of getting this thing DNA analyzed, 151 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: and I thought this is going to be a breeze. 152 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to analyze this thing? 153 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: Well? 154 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong. When we come back, though, I'm 155 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: going to tell you about the great news that I 156 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: have and it leads to a bigger conversation actually about 157 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: DNA testing in general. Hey, you know what, if you 158 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: like this show, here's ahead up. 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I have your host, the Wizard of Weird, 176 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Joshua with P Warren beaming into your wormhole brain from 177 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every 178 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: day is golden and every night is silver. Getato zume, 179 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: And think of how excited I was this guy John Edmonds, 180 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: who for years owned this infamous ranch. He was all 181 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: over the place. He wrote this book called Stardust Ranch, 182 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: The Incredible True Story. He was on TV shows like 183 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Ghost Adventures, a major show. He was interviewed by the 184 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: great Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM and told 185 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: his story. And he always talked about how he would 186 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: use this sword or a sword to kill these aliens. 187 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: And I've got this sword, I say, well, I've got 188 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: a famous sword here, so that means that I should 189 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: easily be able to get this thing properly tested. Because 190 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: who out there in the DNA world would not want 191 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to test a sword, a famous sword with 192 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: some kind of tissue or fluid on it, given this 193 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: this story that's been around forever. I mean, who wouldn't 194 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: want to do that? And it turns out that I 195 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: have a couple of contacts in the scientific field. And 196 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I know that there are people out 197 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: there who call themselves DNA analyst or DNA specialist, but 198 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: a lot of them are not actually that accredited, all right. 199 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: So in other words, they may just they may be 200 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: either amateurs or they just kind of they work very 201 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: very independently without a lot of peer review, or they 202 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: are just strictly into the paranormal and say a lot 203 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: of fanciful things. So I was like, no, no, no, I 204 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: don't want to waste this opportunity on somebody like that. 205 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: I want to go to, you know, a real doctor 206 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: at a real university, you know, mainstream university, and have 207 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: this done the kind of thing that you might see 208 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: done if you were making a documentary for the National 209 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Geographic Channel or something like that. I think it rises 210 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to that level of interest and significance. So I have 211 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: a couple of contacts in the the mainstream university world, 212 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the collegiate world, and I thought, okay, well that's that. 213 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: I'll contact them and we'll get the ball rolling and 214 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: figure out what we need to do. So I contacted 215 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: them and said, he guess watch, you know, I've got 216 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: this marvelous thing, this great opportunity. What do we need 217 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: to do to get it tested here? And I was saying, 218 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to pay whatever and it is necessary. 219 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: And I was shocked when both of them were like, no, sorry, 220 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: can't do that. Why why why not? Like, well, because 221 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: it's like we know what you do, Joshua, and we 222 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: appreciate what you do. But if we start associating ourselves 223 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: with this kind of thing, then it's jeopardizing our credibility 224 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: and so we just can't do it. You know, this 225 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: is a livelihood, that kind of thing. And I understand that. 226 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean because look, to me, the paranormal is normal 227 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: at this point. Everybody is not like that, okay, And 228 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: you have these people who are highly qualified, who spent 229 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: years in school, and they're trying to get ten year 230 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: at a university or something, and they don't want to 231 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: jeopardize it over something that might make them look silly. 232 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I've encountered this kind of thing over the years, and 233 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that holds back paranormal research. 234 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, that's fine, that's okay. It 235 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: should be easy to find somebody out there. So I 236 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: started contacting other places, other credible organizations, let's just put 237 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: it that way. And I just kept hitting roadblock after roadblock, 238 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: and it was the same old thing. Now, sure, like 239 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: you can go and you have like DNA tested for 240 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: paternity or something like that to see who the father 241 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of a kid is or something. But you see, here's 242 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: the problem that people don't A lot of people don't 243 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: realize that this is the problem when it comes to 244 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: DNA testing weird things. DNA, the process of DNA science 245 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: is great at matching up to things. So let's say 246 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: you have you have well, like on a crime scene. Okay, 247 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: you have a fluid or something or a hair on 248 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a crime scene, and you can take that and then 249 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: take a piece of DNA from this individual and see 250 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: if they match up. That is very effective. And you 251 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: can also match DNA to a known animal. So let's say, 252 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you go out there and you get 253 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: a frog and we all agree this is a frog. 254 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: It's a real frog, and you get that frog's DNA 255 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: and you say, here's what that That frog's DNA looks 256 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: like this. You put that into the DNA catalog and 257 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: from there on, if you have a mysterious DNA, you 258 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: can say, well this we look at look at this. 259 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: It matched up with the frog. But if there is 260 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: no accepted specimen of something that exists out there, then 261 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: a scientist doesn't have anything to match the DNA with. 262 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: And so it's like, how do how do we know 263 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: if this is an alien's DNA? If you don't have 264 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: a dead alien specimen out there and you can that 265 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: you could compare this with. And this goes for bigfoot, 266 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: and it's like you here are these people say, look, 267 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: we have bigfoot DNA. Well maybe you believe that because 268 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe you've got some weird DNA, but if you can't 269 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: compare it to a bigfoot specimen, you can't say this 270 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: is bigfoot DNA, and that goes for all cryptids. And 271 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: this is the challenge when it comes to getting people 272 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: who are credible to want to test these bizarre, unknown 273 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: varieties of DNA. And so I get that, I understand it. 274 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: And the limitations of DNA technology are they're they're much 275 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: much more, they're much broader than you might think. And 276 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, as you can tell by by 277 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: trying to do this, because I'd never tried to pursue 278 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: having something like this DNA tested before. I thought it 279 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: would be relatively easy, because hey, you know, I have 280 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: this show here, I work with Coast to Coast AM 281 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: and people know who I am and what I do 282 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: and my stories out there, and you know it's it's 283 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: it's something of public interest, and you know what. I 284 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: started trying and trying and trying to get somebody credible 285 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: to take a look at this, and it just wasn't happening. 286 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: And I finally got a referral to a professor at 287 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: a mainstream university. And this is this is after months 288 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: of trying, because I was not going to just hand 289 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: the sword off to somebody or even take an unnecessary 290 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: swab unless it was somebody who was really credible and 291 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: somebody who would at least be willing to say, hey, 292 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: I'm willing to put my reputation on the line to 293 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: say that what we have here is DNA that seems unusual. 294 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: And scientists don't like to admit when they don't know things, 295 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: but they do exist. There are scientists out there who 296 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: are real explorers, real investigators, real researchers. They're willing to 297 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: take some risks with their reputation perhaps, and they're willing 298 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: to say I don't know what this is. And so 299 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I contacted this professor. Let's see, I got in touch 300 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: with him November of last year, twenty twenty four, and 301 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: he works with the forensic doctors at this major mainstream 302 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: university here in the United States. And I said, hey, 303 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: I have this famous sword blah blah blah, here's the 304 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: whole story. Listen to the podcast I did. I have 305 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: not allowed anyone to do a DNA test on these 306 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: stains yet, Are you interested? Do you know someone who is? 307 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: And he at first he said yes, but you know, 308 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: I need to have some meetings with this this committee 309 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: where we go over what we agree to test. And 310 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: he's like I said, all right, fine, So, like you know, 311 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks go by and I haven't heard anything, 312 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: and he's and then he says like, well, look, real 313 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: science takes time. And I was like, okay with this 314 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: guy is just another guy who's just given me the 315 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: run around here, and uh, I just figured it, well, 316 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I will just hang on to this sword until the 317 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: day comes when you know, somebody will who's who's in 318 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: the right position, will contact me about it, about testing it. 319 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: And then, much to my surprise, much to my surprise, 320 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: just days ago, I got an email from this professor 321 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: at this university and he's he I've got his email 322 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: in front of me. He says, thank you so much 323 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: for your stream patience. I was hoping to have things 324 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: together to send to you to swab the sword in January, 325 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: but for a number of reasons, including my building being 326 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: unexpectedly shut down for urgent repairs, I only now have 327 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: this ready to send to you. He says, Please send 328 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: me your best address. I am sending you two sterile 329 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: collection tubes with swabs built in, he said, you only 330 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: need one, but this way you'll have an extra iNeST 331 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: in case. I'm going to send you one small vial 332 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: of DNA free water. I'll send you directions for collecting 333 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: and submitting the sample. It's like it's happening. It's happening. 334 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: We're up on a break. When we come back, i'll 335 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: tell you what the next step is going to be here, 336 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: and then I want to tell you something that I've 337 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: learned about these companies that you may have come across 338 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: that promise you that if you can you give them 339 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: their DNA, they can give you a complete rundown of 340 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: like your health. Sounds a little fishy, doesn't it. I'm 341 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the 342 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM para normal podcast network, 343 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: and I'll be back after these important messages. Welcome back 344 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: to Strange Things. I'm the iHeart Radio and Coast to 345 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Coast AM para normal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua 346 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: pe Warren, and this is the show where the on 347 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: becomes usual. What a year I have had. I mean, 348 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: if you have listened to this show regularly, I mean 349 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: it's just been one breakthrough after another, or at least 350 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: you know. Here, here's the thing I have to follow 351 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: very strict instructions, which I'm very happy to do in 352 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: order to properly test to to like, you know, swab 353 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: this sword. And I am going to videotape myself doing 354 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: it so that there's no question that the samples have 355 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: been collected properly. So I'm keeping the sword. I'm not 356 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: sending the sword in. You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't 357 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: chance that. And then so I'm sending these samples and 358 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: then I don't know how long I'll have to wait, 359 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: but I know they are going to a a real 360 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: forensics department with real doctors at a real university who 361 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: are saying they're going to examine this, and they haven't 362 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: asked for any money. I should be receiving their kit 363 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: any day now. And you know the question is, well, 364 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: what are they going to find? And here's here's here. Honestly, 365 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: here's my thinking on this. I do people are probably 366 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: shocked to hear this, but I do understand and believe 367 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: deeply in the scientific method. And a part of thinking 368 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: that way is considering what's known as Ockham's razor, and 369 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: that is that the likeliest explanation is usually the correct one. 370 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: That if you have something sounds like it's wrapping on 371 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: your wall at night. Maybe it's a ghost, but maybe 372 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: it's more likely that you have a pipe or something 373 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: like that that is creaking under certain circumstances. So you 374 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: have to see what the likeliest thing is. So look, 375 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I would not be a bit surprised if they come 376 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: back and say, well, you know, this guy lived on 377 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: a ranch. I mean, I don't know if he was 378 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: out there killing chickens or something. It's like, I wouldn't 379 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: be surprised if they say this is chicken blood or 380 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: or either human blood or who knows. I mean, this 381 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: guy could have been making everything up and he could 382 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: have just smeared some blood from the butcher shop on 383 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: this thing. So I mean, and that's fine because I 384 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: feel like that one way or another, this mystery is 385 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: going to be solved because they're either going to come 386 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: back and they're going to say basically one of three things. 387 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, uh, yeah, this is blood from a 388 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: from a hog or whatever, or they're gonna say this 389 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: is uh the sample is not even DNA, and it 390 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough shape to test. We couldn't tell anything 391 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: about it, so we can't conclude anything, or they're going 392 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to say, this appears to be DNA, but we can't 393 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: match it to anything in the catalog, and that would 394 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: be the coolest outcome, because I think that would be 395 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: about the best that we could get from this. But 396 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what, if you had a credible university that 397 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: collected something like that, then at least it would allow 398 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: them to go forth and maybe start comparing other supposed 399 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: alien blood or whatever that's found in other sites where 400 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: people have had these encounters, and that would be very interesting. 401 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: So I'm fortunate that you know, the scientists are telling 402 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: me right now that they are open minded to tackle 403 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: this and do it properly, and so yes, you will 404 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: be the first to know the results. So be sure 405 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: to sign up for my free and spam free e 406 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: news that are right there on the homepage at Joshua 407 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: pe Warren, because that'll be the fastest way for me 408 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: to get the word to you. But here's what I 409 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up to you now that I've been 410 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: sort of studying and I'm by no means a DNA expert, 411 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: but you know, I've been looking into this a lot 412 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: more than the average person, as you can tell, and 413 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: my wife Lauren. She contacted me a while back, and 414 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: she was telling me about some of these kits that 415 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: she'd seen out there on the marketplace. There are companies 416 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: that say that you can get a kit and send 417 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: them some of your DNA and they can turn around 418 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: and give you an analysis of all of your sort 419 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: of health issues that you may or may not be 420 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: prone to have. And that's because I have a lot 421 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: of quirky health issues. I don't want to get into 422 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: all that right now, but you know, I was I 423 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: almost died when I was born. Every time the doctor 424 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: was trying to deliver me, the biblical cord was pulling 425 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: me back in and choking me to death. It was 426 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: around my neck several times. My dad said that when 427 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: I finally was released, that I had purple splotches all 428 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: over my head and they had to put me in 429 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: some kind of chamber and so that I came into 430 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: the world with difficulty, you know. So it's it's always 431 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: been a little weird for me. So Lauren was saying, 432 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, have you seen these kits that these companies 433 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: are providing where it would be interesting to see if 434 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: they could tell you, you know, if you have some kind 435 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: of you know, genetic quirks. I'm a weirdo anyway. So 436 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: and so I said, well, let me look into this. 437 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: And here's what I have found. There is such a 438 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: thing as d n a H testing for for health purposes. 439 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: There are certain particular genes that you can look through 440 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: that can be matched up with certain particular conditions. But 441 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: from all the research that I've done, most of these 442 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: doctors who are experts of this say this is we 443 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: don't have the ability right now to honestly to take 444 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: these companies seriously. For one thing, these companies they charge 445 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money, like for example, there's one on Amazon, 446 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: and I think the cheapest you can get one of 447 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: their kids for is six hundred dollars. And then once 448 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: they send you the results, well now you also have 449 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: to subscribe and continue paying them. And so and I 450 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: was looking at this kit all these kinds of kids 451 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: that I found that they claim that they can do 452 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: that give you a health profile like that. They don't 453 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: have many reviews, and most of the reviews are bad. 454 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, that particular one that she 455 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: sent me and I'm not going to use any names. 456 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: I was just looking at it before the show it 457 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: says right there on Amazon on frequently returned item, it 458 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: only has thirteen reviews to and then it says frequently 459 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: returned item. Well, I wonder why that is. And if 460 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: you just start looking at the reviews of these things, 461 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: then you'll you'll realize that there are a lot of 462 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: problems there. Furthermore, there are experts at doctors who say, 463 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: you can go to two of these different companies that 464 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: are claiming to offer the same kind of service and 465 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: then they will both send you back results that are different. 466 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: So how should that happen? Who's you know, where's the 467 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: credibility there? So from what I understand from talking you know, 468 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: or and doing just doing research, is that look that 469 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: Like I say, some of these health tests can provide 470 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: insights into certain genetic predispositions and carrier status. But there 471 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: are these commercial companies that are not intended to diagnose diseases. 472 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: There are a lot of factors that may affect how 473 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: the results are interpreted. And there are a lot of 474 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: doctors who say that this can cause big problems because 475 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: if they send you some kind of information and say, oh, 476 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: you're inclined to have some kind of a health problem, 477 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: now you start freaking out and it becomes a self 478 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: fulfilling prophecy. And so most doctors out there, I mean, 479 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I guess you could say there are some mixed results, 480 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: but for the most part, the technology just isn't there yet. 481 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: But you know, now that I have a legitimate DNA 482 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: expert that I'm going to be able to correspond with, 483 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: at some point I will ask the real experts to 484 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: give an opinion on that. And you know, and I 485 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: don't talk about health stuff, so I'm not going to 486 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: give you kind of any health advice. I'm just telling 487 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: you what I found that I don't I don't. I mean, 488 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: if you could do it, you know, for a hundred 489 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: bucks or whatever, and it might be an interesting novelty, 490 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: and especially if you don't have to like sign up 491 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: and subscribe to some service. But right now, everybody's just like, 492 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: look that we don't have the credible commercial companies out 493 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: there that can fulfill what they're offering, especially for the 494 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: prices they're charging. And again it kind of goes back 495 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: to like DNA people they hear about it all the time. 496 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, crime's got solved. So they think if 497 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: DNA is brought up something is automatically credible. But that's 498 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: what they actually understand very little about what the strengths 499 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: and weaknesses of DNA are. And like I say, it's 500 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: mainly for matching up things, matching up known variables, matching 501 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: up certain types of people with other types of people, 502 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: or matching up a certain person with his or her 503 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: own DNA. Or it can be used by medical professionals 504 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: to go in and look at for very particular types 505 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: of genes and anomalies and such that may apply to 506 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: a very particular condition for a particular person. But I'm 507 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: not ready to go spend money on that yet, and 508 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: so that's just my opinion. But I'll let you know, 509 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: like I say, if that changes is you know, the 510 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: technology is changing at light speed. Okay, it's time for 511 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, I think I'm going 512 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: to end the show by catching up on some stuff 513 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: that I call mental manner. These are things that I 514 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: just like to talk about because well, the show is 515 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: it's called strange things, and sometimes I just come across 516 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: things that I think are odd. And I just discovered 517 00:36:52,080 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: something odd the other day, something strange about Marguerita pizza. Yeah, 518 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: Margarita Pizza and it's that kind of a program. We 519 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: can go anywhere we want. I wonder if you know 520 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: this bit of trivia, and I've got some other mental 521 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: manna for you as well. To end the show on 522 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: a quirky note, why not. I'm Joshua Pee Warren, and 523 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: you are listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and 524 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast A and Paranormal Podcast Network, and I 525 00:37:32,360 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment 526 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and 527 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, 528 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, And here's something that's just been on 529 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: my mind for a while. I was, you know, thinking 530 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: about the idea of testing like DNA testing paranormal things. 531 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: And I just want you to know that sometimes I 532 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: hear people talk about, well, is is this is this 533 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: a bigfoot? Or is this a paranormal thing? Or is 534 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: this an alien or is this a paranormal thing or 535 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: and you know what, in my mind, like paranormal means 536 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: beyond normal. That kind of covers it all. So saying ghosts, 537 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: UFOs and bigfoot and the paranormal is I guess it's 538 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: kind of like saying Big Max whoppers and burgers. It's redundant. 539 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: To me, it's all paranormal. It's either normal or it's 540 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: not normal. And we can argue about what normal is 541 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: and how to draw the line there. But to me, 542 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: ghosts are paranormal. UFOs are paranormal. Bigfoot's paranormal, All cryptids 543 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: are paranormal. If it's not if it falls outside of 544 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: the average person's daily experience, we can call that paranormal. 545 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: It's all paranormal, folks. And maybe you know, maybe this 546 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: is just semantics and I'm splitting hairs here, but here's 547 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: another tip that I will give those of you out 548 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: there who fancy yourselves UFO and you a researchers. A 549 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: lot of people say there was a craft over here 550 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: flying through the air, and then they'll say, then they 551 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: saw two crafts over there flying through the air. Well, 552 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: as far as I understand, the plural of the word 553 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: craft is craft, so you can say there's one craft 554 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: over here or there are five craft over there, but 555 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to say crafts. And also 556 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: people mix up the word phenomenon, which is singular with 557 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: phenomena and that's the plural. So it's like, we have 558 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: a strange phenomenon happening on this mountain, and we have 559 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: three strange phenomena happening over on that mountain. You know, 560 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm a writer. I'm sorry, but I once in a 561 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: while I think about how we we define these things. 562 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: A lot of it begins, you know. We think about 563 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: things often beginning with the how we the language and 564 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: how we phrase it. There's a relationship between how we 565 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: envisioned concepts and how we talk about these things. And so, 566 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's interesting and I think it's important. 567 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: All right, now, time for some mental manna. And again, 568 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: this is just stuff that it's not necessarily paranormal, but 569 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: it's strange to me and stuff that I just kind 570 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: of come across in my life. Who does it like pizza? 571 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: Right? 572 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, do you know where 573 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: the word pizza comes from? I wasn't sure, and then 574 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: recently I was looking it up, says The oldest recorded 575 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: usage of the word is thought to be from May 576 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: nine ninety seven of CE. That's a long time ago, 577 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: the year nine ninety seven. It appeared in a Latin 578 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: document from part of the Byzantine Empire, but they think 579 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: that the entomology it goes back to the Byzantine Greek 580 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: and Late Latin, which basically they had a word piita 581 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: for piita bread. We all have heard of pia bread 582 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: around flat bread baked in the oven at high temperatures, 583 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: and then occasionally I guess they would add toppings. And 584 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: so I think piza is where the word pizza came from. 585 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: Now you could say, well, where did peta come from? 586 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: We could keep going down that rabbit hole. But that's 587 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: all you need to know for now. But you know, 588 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: I've always been, you know, being a typical American pig. 589 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, I like, I love those supreme pizzas that 590 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: have all that all, like the meat lover stuff. I 591 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: can't eat that as often as I want anymore. Now 592 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: that I'm middle aged trying to take better care of myself, 593 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how well that's going. I'll have to 594 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: go one of those DNA tasks. But I used to 595 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: never order a margarita pizza and uh and I'm not 596 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: talking about like a margarita drink. That's a different story. 597 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: I believe that would drink was named after Oh, a 598 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: prominent lady in Mexico. Another story for another day. But 599 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: pizza Margarita known as Margarita pizza, that's spelled m A 600 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: r g h E r I t A. It's it's 601 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: a roundish pizza and it's considered a Neapolitan pizza and 602 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: it's seasoned with hand crushed peeled tomatoes, mozzarella usually buffalo mozzarella, 603 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: fresh basil leaves, and extra virgin olive oil. And apparently 604 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: if you go you go back to the history of this. 605 00:43:52,480 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: The story is that there was a Queen Margherita and 606 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: back in eighteen eighty nine, who is visiting this town. Sorry, 607 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: I should have brushed up on this a little bit better. 608 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: She was visiting a town they were celebrating her, and 609 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: so they asked one of the chefs to make a 610 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: special pizza to honor her, which had the colors of 611 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: the Italian flag, red for tomato, white from montzauela, and 612 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: green for basil. And so they named it after the queen, 613 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: the Margarita Pizza. Well, I tell you all this because 614 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: I never again, I'd never really ordered margarita pizzas. But 615 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: I was watching this YouTube video about restaurants in Las 616 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: Vegas and there was this one food reviewer who is like, 617 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you have to go to this restaurant 618 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: here on the strip where they make this margharita pizza 619 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: and all the ingredients have to be exact to the 620 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: standards of the margarita pizza in Italy from this little region, 621 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: and that they have to import their their flour to 622 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: make their dough, they have to import the cheese that like, 623 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: you have to import everything. You have to put it 624 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: in a certain type of oven for a certain period 625 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: of times, like super strict standards, the kind of stuff 626 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: you hear people apply to like maybe different types of 627 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: waggu steaks, and she was just talking about how heavenly 628 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: it is. Well, I figure, you know, I've not been 629 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: to Italy, and I don't know if I'm going to 630 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: make it to Italy. So one day Lauren and I 631 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: were in the area. We go, let's go there and 632 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: see what this super authentic pizzas is as supposed to 633 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: be like. So we go in there and they bring 634 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: out this rather ordinary looking margherita pizza because they had 635 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: so few toppings on him, and it was absolutely delicious, 636 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: one of the best pizzas I've ever had. And I was, 637 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, really surprised by it was very light. It 638 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: was not thick with all these toppings like we Americans are. 639 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: So I started looking into this and I found one 640 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: other restaurant where I went to where they have these 641 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: same strict standards, and I found out that what you 642 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: have possibly eaten or probably eaten your entire life, that 643 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: you call a margarita pizza is not an authentic margarita 644 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: because when you go to one of these places that 645 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: has all the stuff imported, they have permission to call 646 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: there as a margharita DOC. The DOC stands for the 647 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: and I don't speak Italian, the nominacion the originic controller, 648 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: which I means like domain of original control. That is 649 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: an Italian designation of controlled origin, meaning the ingredients are 650 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: from specific high quality regions and made to certain standards. 651 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: And I mean it's like, this is a big deal. 652 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: If you if you have this designation at your straw 653 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: and you screw up, you know, you're blackballed basically. And 654 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: so I was like, well this is and so I 655 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: got one of these docs again and I was like, man, yeah, 656 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 1: this is like if this is one of the best 657 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 1: pizzas I've ever had that margarita doc. So I started 658 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: looking into the ingredients and I was like, okay, so 659 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: it takes buffalo mozzarella. So I was talking to one 660 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: of the servers and I was like, so, what's the 661 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: story behind buffalo mozzarella And the server said, oh, it 662 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: comes from buffaloes in Italy, and I was like what. 663 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: Lauren and I both are like what. Sure enough, buffalo 664 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: mozzarella is a mozzarella made from the milk of the 665 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: Italian Mediterranean buffalo. It's a very particular thing from that region. 666 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: They say that the history of why that there are 667 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: water buffalo at Italy is not clear. One theory is 668 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: that Asian water buffalo were brought to Ita by Goths 669 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: during the migrations of the early medieval period. You can 670 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: look into this yourself, but did you realize that when 671 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: you if you order a margarita and it's got buffalo mozzarella, 672 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: it's mozzarella that came from a water buffalo in Italy. 673 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: Go get yourself a margarita. DC. All right, that's the 674 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: mental manap for you, my friends. The clock has goddess, 675 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: so you know what time it is. If you can 676 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: close your eyes, take a deep breath. Let's all meditate 677 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: on making your next week the best week ever. Here 678 00:48:37,680 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: is the one, the only, the good Fortune tone. That's 679 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: it for this edition of the show. 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