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Brought to you by the United States 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Sports Service and the AD Council. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host Rashan McDonald. I recognize that we all 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: have different definitions for success. For some, it's a sizable paycheck. 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Mine is helping people wake up and inspiring them to 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. These 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: are my passions and that's what I'm going to do 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: for you. I want you to stop tripping over your 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: small challenges that are out there and rise above for 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: those bigger obstacles that are gonna be there for you 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: every day of your life. And money making Conversation interviews 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: provide relatable information to the listener of my career and 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, and how 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: to live a balanced life. My next guest is a 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: special one. Thank you for coming on a short ahead 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: of time. I'm about to introducer. My next guest is 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the co founder and CEO of the Women's National Football 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Conference the w n f C. The Women's National Football 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Conference is the groundbreaking organization that exists to create and 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: foster and environment for fee athletes to sustain healthy lifestyles 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: through playing, coaching, and participate in American football at the 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: highest level. Again, at the highest level, the w NFC 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: has over one thousand athletes and coaches across seventeen stage, 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: which makes up twenty teams with thousands of fans. We're 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: gonna turn that into millions. The w n f C 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: was started in twenty and eighteen in order to bring 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: the sport of women's tackle tackle football, not touch, not fluff, 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: not football to the masses. Please welcome to money making 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: conversation to co founder and CEO of Women's National Football Conference, 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: Odessa Odessa Jenkins. Yes, sir, let's just okay. First of all, 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's talk about your name first, because I know, 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I know you have a beautiful name. Oh that's a Jenkin. 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Wherever you it's out like your uncle calling you, your 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: your daddy calling girl. When did you get the name 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Odessa Jenkins from? You know? That's my grandmoma's name. Name 53 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: from the South? I am. I am. I am actually 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: born and raised in Los Angeles, California, but I'm born 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: to a Southern queen and the Southern kid. My mother 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: and father are both from uh. My dad from Palm Bluff, Arkansas, 57 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and my mom's from Little Rock. I have a Southern 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: woman's name. My actually, my fool name is o Death 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: a Landale Jenkins. So I'm named after both my paternal 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: and paternal grandmothers. They have big planes for death. Oh yeah, 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, it's beautiful. So so give us 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: a little back. I know your your former athlete and 63 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: and so, but you know, athletes get a bum wrap 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: sometimes because they just they just people just recognizing for 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: their talent, their physical talent, and we all know that's 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: as a short window, a short window. So you have 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: to plan what the realistic path is for long term 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: financial to test and being at your female sometimes the 69 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: options are even more limited to try to pursue your dreams. 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Talk about the athletics side of your life going through 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: high school into college. Sure, um so, as I said, 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: I grew up in south central l A. Sports have 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: always been a tremendous part. I lived in l A 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: fifteen years. Well where do you work to high school? 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: And what you call in south central l A? Just 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: for my listal So, I grew up on ninety nine 77 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: in San Pedro my family and that was where I 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: was pretty much raised. But my childhood was a watch. Um. 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: I lived in the Jordan Downs, I lived in the 80 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Nickinson Project away so my home church, which is still 81 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: a home church today. Uh is on a hundred and 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: seventh inkl Maya, right in south central l A. So 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: when I say south central after what I mean, Actually 84 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: my mom worked outside of l A in in Bellflowers, 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: so I actually bust the school with my mom. So 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: after elementary school, when I went to ninety ninth Street Elementary, 87 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: shoutout to nine nine Street Elementary. My mom busted me 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: to school. So I wrote a bus in the train 89 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: to school from the seventh grade until I graduated high school. 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: So I never went back to l A Unified after Um, 91 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: my elementary school. Parks start to become a part of 92 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: your life, you know, it was it was, it was. 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: It was huge for us because, um, growing up in 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: the city, there was a lot of my family was um, 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, no shame in my game. My family was 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: into a lot of uh you know, the drug trade 97 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of violence, and there were a lot 98 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: of things, a lot of great people in my family, 99 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: but there was just a lot of stuff around us, 100 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: and sports was the one thing that kind of kept 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: us away. So I started becoming known around town as 102 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: a girl with the ball, whether it was a basketball 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: or football or volleyball or whatever. I just I just 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: always wanted to do something different. Uh it was it 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: was just inside of me to want to compete. I 106 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: was a competitor, and so I picked up a football. 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: My first sport was football. All the boys and cousins 108 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: of my family they allowed me to play. As long 109 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: as you can ball, That's what they always told me. 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: As long as you can ball, now, I will let 111 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: you play. So I started playing, and I played football 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: up until the eighth grade. And a coach at the 113 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: time told me like, hey, yo, you're gonna if you 114 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: want to go to college, and I know you do, um, 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: and you want to get your college pay for it 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: through athletics, you need to play a girl's sport, um, 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: and you need to pick up basketball or something else. 118 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: And it broke my heart because I was pretty decent 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: football player and I'm small. Were you playing and what 120 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: kind of speed were you? Right? Sound like the whole time, 121 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't like people to be bragging pretty pretty pretty 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 1: decent football player, you know who? It was pretty decent, dope. 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: That's a pretty fat woman. Up in to the eighth grade, 124 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: I was probably still averaging um, a couple of TVs 125 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: A game. Probably want a buck fift team the boys. 126 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: So I was putting up a hundred yards of game. 127 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: And even up until the eighth grade, UM, there was 128 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: never I was never interested in playing against boys, so 129 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people grow I was. 130 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: I always wanted to play against other girls, UM because 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: obviously once you get to the eighth grade, the boys 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: start getting bigger and stronger and faster, and it's like 133 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: me right and me there, and so I always wanted 134 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: to play against the girls. But there was just no opportunity. 135 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Girls football didn't exist. There was nobody UM that was 136 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: making that available. So I went on high school, play 137 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: some basketball, won a couple UM district championships. Now in 138 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: l A, UM got the l A Times Player of 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: the Year, started to get recruited, and I end up 140 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: going to be one with a school, a small v 141 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: once called cal Poly up in Sandwich Be School, California. 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: U yep, start bawling. At the time I went there, 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: we hadn't won anything yet and ended up ended up 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: her me cal Poly into a pretty good program, a 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: pretty good winner out there in the Big West. One 146 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: of one player of the year a couple of years 147 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: and had a pretty decent college career, so I was, um, 148 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, successful, But as soon as I graduated from college, 149 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I went to go FID football again. So um, it's 150 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: always been the thing that I love. I love to compete, 151 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: and I know you probably talked to a lot of 152 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: athletes and entrepreneurs, but football is unique. You gotta have 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: a different level of team and compete to want to 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: do this, uh for a long time. So let me 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: tell you about football sport. I could never play by 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: the way, because I see, I can't see. I can't 157 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: look at somebody who's gonna run at me as fast 158 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: as I'm running towards them and not there left the right, 159 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: but they just want to stay dead on. See, that's 160 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: a different mentality for me because you know what I 161 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: like to call it. Well, I'll just tell you, boy coward. Okay, 162 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you right now. Well, I'm not gonna 163 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: do That's not gonna get on the football field and 164 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: know him that food coming at me to hurt me. Yeah, 165 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: a half ability as a matter of fact, so so so, 166 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: but before we get into the league, you know, we're 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: right in the midst of a COVID nineteen pandemic. Is 168 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: affecting all sports. And we saw ESPN basically get shut 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: down basically because they had no sports to cover spots. 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports one as well had no sports. So how 171 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: has it impacted And give me give me a feel 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: for what what when does the league start? What's that 173 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: window for what the league is? Yeah, so the league 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: we played the spring, right, we planned the spring. The 175 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: whole concept was to try and not compete with major 176 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: men sports, right, Um, So give them in their their 177 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: their platform that they've turned over the last hundred years 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and create something for when the NFL fan or they 179 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: frankly the NBA fan, the MLB fan, whatever sports they're playing, 180 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: is looking for that next competitive thing. Sort of the 181 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: same concept that the X OFFLS and the a f 182 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: L had. Um. But we play April to jump live. 183 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: So frankly, this last weekend would have been our championship weekend. 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: We've been going into our championship. We canceled our season 185 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: in February, knowing are anticipating with COVID would do to 186 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: the world, um, and knowing that we don't own facilities, right, 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: we coordinate with high schools and colleges for our fields 188 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff, and knowing that it would 189 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: hit us hard. So frankly, if it hit us just 190 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: as hard as it did everybody else. But one thing 191 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: that it did do is it helped the world of 192 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: sports carriers and content providers realize that there's different content 193 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: out here in sports a k. A. Women's football has 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: some pretty exciting content to provide um if you point 195 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: your camera headed. So in a lot of cases people 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: said this has been detrimental to their business. In my case, 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: I see it as a come up, as an opportunity, 198 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: right um, as an opportunity for us to bring our 199 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: business this to the masses and our sports and the masses. 200 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: So this has been a win. I don't look at 201 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: anything as a loss. I look at it all as 202 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity. And this is a major opportunity for us 203 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: to put the content in this football and for us 204 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: from folks who wouldn't have normally look well, you know, 205 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: I tell everybody that you know this whole year my 206 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: brand money making conversation. I used the pandemic period to 207 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: catch up. I thought from us, I caught a lot 208 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: of my competition. The fact that you know they when 209 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: you when you launch your brand, you kind of behind 210 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: everybody else. And so if the brand is stalled and 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: you still have a plan to market and brand and 212 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: promote and get your and and get in front of people, 213 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: then guess what people take notice because guess what everybody 214 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: else is stalled and their mind is very curious right 215 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: now as to what else I can do to to 216 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: entertain my brain because there's so much available time for 217 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: me to be. But that's why Netflix blew up, you know, 218 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: because everybody was sitting at the house. Everybody found Netflix. 219 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Netflix stock is like almost earn of dollars because of 220 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: the fact that people are trying to find information. That's 221 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: why people watching Korean baseball, they're trying to find information. 222 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: NASCAR ratings are up because of the fact that people 223 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: can find information. How are you keeping your brand in 224 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: the forefront or in front of our eyeballs? Yeah, there's 225 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things. So one I think we went 226 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: we did one of the smartest things that we could 227 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: ever do, and that's invest in some real PR, brand aid, 228 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: marketing and content strategy. So um, we went and we 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: went signed up on this with this organization called ice one, 230 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: which is an amazing organization that helps women and startups 231 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: get funding right UM, and so through them we were 232 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: able to be awarded a grant for helping the world 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: to reimagine sports. So Adidas UM pump some resources and 234 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: some funding into us and with that we went in 235 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: higher professional pr which a lot of women and sports 236 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: don't have. UM. We have a focus on our head 237 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 1: of branding and marketing to put more content out on 238 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: social UM well be we're beating up our website and 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: our web present and making content available to our users 240 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: to go spread out. So that's those are the two 241 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: biggest things that we're doing. Beautifying our content so making 242 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: it more alreadily available, prettier UM. And then we're also 243 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: investing in others that can go tell our story. But 244 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: you bring up a great point of being able to 245 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: catch up because those are things that we would frankly 246 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: never do UM were it not for COVID nightcing. Absolutely. 247 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, you know, when you're dealing with marketing, it's 248 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: all it's all a competition and so and also the 249 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,479 Speaker 1: bigger level of competition is like everybody has a you know, McDonald's, 250 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: they have Hamburgers, Burger King has Brand Burgers, five Guys 251 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: has Hamburgers, and you know tucking for our chicken as 252 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: chicken Popeyes as chicken, Chick fil A has Chicken. And 253 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: so when those brands are out there ahead of you, 254 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: then you have to figure out how do I step 255 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: parade and clearly define who I am. And so that's 256 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: why I brought that up. Because of the fact that 257 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: COVID and eighteen you can't see it as a disaster. 258 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: This is a setback because we all want to be planned, 259 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: we all want to be feeling the stands. We all 260 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: want our brands for more importantly, now you're dealing with 261 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the details of death. You know about correct being very 262 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: meticulous about what exactly the messaging you're trying to tell. 263 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: What are you talking to you when you when you, 264 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: when I when I talk like that? What are you 265 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: telling your team, your marketing team? What's the over the 266 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: mandate right now? Yeah? The manthdate is alignment right that 267 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: we are an organization that has a mix of people 268 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: and content that's about a purpose that everybody's kind of 269 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: clamoring for. Um. The women in our league are of color. 270 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: We have the story of adversity and triumph and everything 271 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: we do. Because women's tackle football players don't get paid 272 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: to play. So there's this story of triumph and and 273 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: our adversity that we tell. We are women. Women are 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: the fastest growing sports consumer on the planet. 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With 316 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: auto dot ai, you can search the meeting notes, insert images, 317 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: playback the audio, and share them with your friends or coworkers. 318 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: You can capture action items, remember meeting details, and keep 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: everyone informed. Auto dot ai works for in person or 320 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: virtual meetings like Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Google meet. Sign 321 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: up for free at auto dit ai or download the 322 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: app for free auto dot ai. That's O T T 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: E r AI. So right now, what does the twenty 324 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: one season prepping and look like? Yes, so it's an 325 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: exciting time we're actually looking at It's what expansion looks 326 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: like by trying to be smart and not move too fast, 327 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: but looking at other cities. There are a lot of 328 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: other cities who want a team, a w NFC team 329 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: because of what we represent. So that's step one, just 330 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: evaluating and and doing a market research on what are 331 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: the right cities for us to bring a team too, 332 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: because there's might be existing teams out there already. There 333 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: might be new markets that we need to expand to. 334 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: So that's that's step one UM. Step two is bringing 335 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: on investors right working on our investment strategy, who are 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: the kind of people that we want to invest in 337 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: the business. And step three is our TV deal. So 338 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: how do we bring UM O T T to a 339 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: content from an over the air standpoint and a content 340 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: from over the internet standpoint? So working with which partners 341 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: we want to partner with UM to bring our content 342 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: to TV. We have a huge production investment going in. 343 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have ten games that are going to be 344 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: professionally produced and trying to find the right medium to 345 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: put those ten games on. And then last but definitely 346 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: not least, this partnerships and sponsors. We are lucky enough 347 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: right now to have an awesome sponsor and Adidas and 348 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: another awesome sponsor in reddel Sports. We were the first 349 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: women's tackle football league to be sponsored by either of 350 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: those global companies. And we're just looking for the next 351 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: where thel the next Adidas to help take us to 352 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: the next level. Okay, the word tackle football. Okay, let's 353 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: talk about that right quick, because you know I know 354 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: where I can give me some basketball players I know 355 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: if I had started a baseball league, I could just 356 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: bring some softball players from college. Okay, they can probably 357 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: all a little bit smaller, but they can play professional 358 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: base baseball if I wanted to where do I get 359 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: my tackling women? Where do I get my women? If 360 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: I want to start a professional women still on it 361 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: for everywhere. But frankly, I got you. It's it's a. 362 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: It's a. It's a. It's one of those if you 363 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: build this day would come more women than you would 364 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: ever know want to play football. So what we do. 365 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: What we do is every team, every team and every 366 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: city builds a trial, has a trial. So we have 367 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: like a national tryout day in the w NFC. Um 368 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: so every year on the same day, are around the 369 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: same month, and this is going to be in November 370 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: for this year, all of our teams are going to 371 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: start marketing trials. Um So we do it on social 372 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: we do it locally, we do it at gym's, we 373 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: do we go to high schools, we go to local universities. 374 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: UM I'm sure you've heard of. Now women's flag football 375 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: is technically a varsity sport for the first time in 376 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: the history of the world. So we're working with those 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: schools and n A and the n AI to develop that. 378 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: We're also working with the Boys and Growth Club to 379 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: develop a mechanism for building a pipeline that way. But 380 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: really we just put it out there and women show 381 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: up from everywhere. We have former w w n b 382 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: A players in our league for women's professional soccer players 383 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: softball everywhere. But the way that it works is we 384 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: generally have a call out for tryouts a private, some 385 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: private and some public. We usually do some sort of 386 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: recruiting mechanisms, so every team has a recruiting function where 387 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: they're working locally to see who are the pro and 388 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: semi pro female athletes in their city. So between that 389 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: league wide tryout day and the private and public um 390 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: city recruiting mechanisms, that's how we get our women. And 391 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: those trials are usually held at universities are our local 392 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: high schools. Okay, listen, I'm at your website right now. 393 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Fantastic website, by the way, w n FC football dot com. 394 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: Amazing website. Now let's let's let's talk about the branding 395 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: and marketing, because you know, when women try to do 396 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: something athletic in the field of football, we've had a 397 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: lot of our wonder I won't use your word sexes, 398 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: but very you know, scatly clad football game, the puff 399 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: football game, the flag It all led to skippy close 400 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: and and non tackling sports. Now that is that Is 401 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: that a competition that you have to that a branding 402 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: that you have to avoid a deal with this maybe 403 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: trampling into your approach to create a real football league 404 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: where women really do tackle, where women really do play. 405 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: It absolutely is. It's a it's a it's a it's 406 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: a part of the it's a part of the world 407 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: right selling sex, particularly sexualizing women and frankly sexualizing women. 408 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: On your website, you say real women, real football, real football, correct, 409 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: and so that is a part. Then when you say 410 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: women's football to most people, they think of lingerie, right 411 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: because it was, it was on TV, it had sponsors 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: that had those things. But women have been playing a 413 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: lot in all eleven uh tackle football for seventy years. 414 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: And the reason that it hasn't broken out like in 415 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: sixteen months we have done in the w NFC would 416 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: no other leagues have done. And that's had the ability 417 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: to get funding and do sponsorships. But it's absolutely in 418 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the way we have today. We have other leagues that 419 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: are selling other things other than the sport and marketing 420 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: the sport and marketing in different ways. Now, let me 421 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: tell you, I'm not a fool to it. Like I 422 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: believe in the beauty of women, and I believe in 423 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: selling what is all all parts of a woman. But 424 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe that my product at all has to 425 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: be a sexualized product in order for people to take 426 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: it seriously. And that's the difference between me and some others. So, yeah, 427 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: something I gotta fight again. But I'm a fighter. I 428 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: told you where I was from early at the beginning 429 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: of yeah, well better, well more Jordan, what if we 430 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: if we had Yeah, if we have somebody we have 431 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: that in front of us, We're gonna overcome it, just 432 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: like everybody else. That's just money making conversation. We talked 433 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: about the entrepreneur side. We talked about the barconty side, 434 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: the brandy side, and you have to do your competition 435 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: order to beat your competition, because that's where we're We're 436 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: in the winning game. And this interview and when I'm 437 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: looking at the teams, you have the Pacific Conference of 438 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: the Atlantic Conference. Now I know I'm from Houston, Texas, 439 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: and I know Texas is big. Now you've got two teams, 440 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: the Houston Heat and the Texas Elite Spartans. Now I'm 441 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: assuming to Houston Heat is in Houston, Texas. Where's the 442 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: Texas and Eatue Spartans located? Where are they located? There? 443 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: They are located in Dallas. Okay, So it's another rival 444 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: between big d in h towns. Yes, I like that. 445 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah, 446 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: the technically Spartans I actually, um, I own that team. 447 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm talking to Jerry Town. I'm talking to 448 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: Jen Are Yeah you are you are? We The technically 449 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Spartans are the defending champion of the w NFC. Oh 450 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: how conveyan the founder? Yeah that she owned wins. It's cold, um, 451 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: but yeah, that team, that team is a is a 452 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: chim and women's football. That team is hasn't lost the game, 453 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: has been every top team in the country and there 454 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: they set They set the trend in women's tackle football. 455 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, pretty good team. Now are you scaring those 456 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: players up? There? Come the owner? You know, y'all better 457 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: get back and ship you know from from Nickerson, she 458 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: can hurt you'll congratulations, congratulations, and so and so I 459 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: leave with love, I leave, you leave, you leave a 460 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: little loving, might talk a little hurt, but you go. 461 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: You get your point across. I'thing that right now. You 462 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: better let them know absolutely. So when when sponsors coming 463 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: too a brand, what are they expecting? Because you know, 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: we all know that you need financial support, no bi no, 465 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, no no league can exist, even the NFL, 466 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: they don't have financials aboard they last. So what does 467 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: the sponsor expect from you when they sponsor your brand? 468 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: And they usually they usually expect us to amplify a 469 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: story or amplify a cause or a message, the same 470 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: way that they do with other leagues. Right, it's like, um, 471 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: we want you to put our brand in front of women. 472 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: We want you to put our brand in front of 473 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a certain audience that either we're not in front of 474 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: today or that we want to continue to be in 475 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: front of. So usually our pitch is that we are 476 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: women in sport, we are women in fitness, and we 477 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: are diverse. We are women of color, and we are 478 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: women of l g B t Q backgrounds in a 479 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: lot of cases, but we're mothers, were sisters, were consumers. 480 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: So the thing that brands really love about us is 481 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: that we can be flexible. Right, there's a lot of 482 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: us were in um you know, seventeen cities were national. 483 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: That's always good. And then usually what's unique about a 484 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: football team that isn't that you don't find in a 485 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: lot of other women's sports is that football players cannot 486 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: look the same if your team wants to be successful, right, 487 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: so every football if every football player was five ft 488 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: seven a hundred and fifty pounds, your team's gonna get 489 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: the tailwhoof right, exactly exactly, So our sport is super 490 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: super unique and that women have to be from completely 491 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: different backgrounds um, socio economically, they have to look different. 492 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: There's some women that are big, there's some women are small. 493 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: So really we really do, in one sport have the 494 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: total eclectic story of all women that we can tell. 495 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: We can tell the story of big women, little women, 496 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: short women, dog women, light women. And so it's a 497 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: really unique place that our sponsors find as a gold 498 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: mine when it comes to content. Awesome, I love it. 499 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: I love it now. The reason I'll teach you earlier 500 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: about being the owner and undefeated and uh the champion, 501 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: UM you came through the Bill Waller's NFL Diversity Coaching 502 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: Fellowship program. Correct, and you also want the intern coach 503 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons. So so you've you've been u 504 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: as they say, coached up and the professional men's sports. 505 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: How did that help you? And you know with the 506 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: with the Women's National Football League it was huge, um. 507 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, actually it was with the Falcons right before 508 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: I started up that started to UM source a partner 509 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: and investment for the w NFC. So being um, you know, 510 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Scott Poey, who was the general manager at the time 511 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Falcons, was a is a mentor of mine. 512 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: And there's a huge influence of mind UM and coach 513 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Quinn and all of those guys in the Atlantic. Yeah, 514 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: they they are. They are exceptional men, but also exceptional 515 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: leaders and businessmen. And so I really learned a lot 516 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: from being in the room, UM and being in that 517 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: organization about how to organize the sports business, what kind 518 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: of people you need to put around the business, um. 519 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: Because whether it was from coaches like Raheem Morris sitting 520 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: down with me and teaching me the game, or whether 521 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: it was first you know, yeah, that's a bad man Um, 522 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: but the players, the players had a great deal of 523 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: respect for me, Um, DeVante Freeman, all those guys, and 524 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: they they actually set me down and start and talk 525 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: to me, and I talked to them about the business 526 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: of the sports. So it was a huge influencer to me. Um. 527 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Now my passion is women in sports. But they were 528 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: all able to give me some some great building blocks 529 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: on what I should do when I built out the 530 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: w NFC. And the best advice that they gave me 531 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: was not making don't make promises that you can't keep, 532 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: and build it from the base. Well, you're fantastic. I'm 533 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: talking to the co founder and uh co owner and 534 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: coach of a team. She's managed by all female leadership 535 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: brain trust over there at the w NFC. It features 536 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: twenty teams playing a ten weeks spring session, you know, 537 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: broadcast on national television. Her team, she's the owner. She's 538 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: like the Jerry Jones because her teams based in Dalar. 539 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking to, the black female Jerry Jones 540 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: right now. I want to thank you for coming on 541 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: my show. You're fantastic. I love your energy, you know 542 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: your ability to be able to pivot and understand that Uh, 543 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, COVID eight team is not everybody. Disappointment is 544 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: not gonna destroy me and a much success when when 545 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: you when you when you get the league back up 546 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: and running, please come back up. If you want to 547 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: bring a player on with you. I want to support you. One. 548 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: I got almost a million social media followers. Eight percent 549 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: of my followers are female. By the way, I want 550 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: to let you know. Okay, and now and so that's 551 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring you on the show. Now 552 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: you you coming to the right man. Okay, I got 553 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: the lady, I got the ladies. Okay, everybody's got the 554 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: ladies definitely. Well that's all, Dickens. I wanna thank you 555 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Okay, thank you so much 556 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: for having me. And I'm honored that you tell us story. 557 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: And for all the women out there, go do what 558 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: you do. I hope that this uh message of a woman, 559 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: a black woman in football is helping you realize and 560 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: inspire you to go do something that somebody said you couldn't. 561 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: Go get it. Go get a girl. Alrighty, I'll talked 562 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: to you later and be in touch with me. 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