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Speaker 1: Babies, Chili Dog, and in cold that's old, that's old,

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Speaker 1: Chili Dog, and in Cole Slower little Dog, Cold slowed.

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Speaker 2: Um mm hmmmmm.

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Speaker 3: See, I ain't got no I ain't got no theme

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Speaker 3: song yet. We ain't got no theme song.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: The only reason why I said that because this episode

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Speaker 3: is epic. It's not just a regular episode.

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Speaker 2: This one of them one, this from from the Dirty side.

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Speaker 2: Huh what you know about the dirty side.

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Speaker 3: This is a real epic moment right here for the

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Speaker 3: whole team.

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Speaker 2: Man, they so hype. I wish they would just be quiet.

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Speaker 4: Some tail fo Yeah, we're.

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Speaker 2: About three all right, We'll make all the noise you want.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because this, this, this right here, this episode, we

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Speaker 3: need to stay tuned, because we gotta pioneer in the

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Speaker 3: game man, a real South Atlanta legend and one fourth

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Speaker 3: of the iconic Goodie Mob Kujo Third Station.

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Speaker 1: My God, Chili Dog and in Cold Slowing Babies, but

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Speaker 1: that's old, that's old, Chilia dog, and and Cole Slower.

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Speaker 2: Dog, Cold Slower.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get that to Hey, I gotta get that

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Speaker 1: to my brother, my brother throw appreciation flap.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we did.

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Speaker 4: Boulder Crab appreciated folks.

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Speaker 2: Man you you know you Atlanta legend.

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Like like scale of one to ten? Man, what's your

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Speaker 3: what's your range from being a Hawks fan?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Boy, stop, I'm a strong tension, strong tension. I'm a

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Speaker 1: strong tension Bro. I'm always been home team man, win

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Speaker 1: lose a drop. Bro, you know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: can't go with nobody else, Bro, Gotta go with the

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Speaker 1: home team.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember your first game?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Uh? The music being has got me to go into

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Speaker 1: watch them on TV. You feel what I'm saying? So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this music business got me to my first Hawks game,

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Speaker 1: so this might be my maybe like my third one man, believe.

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Speaker 2: The third game your whole life?

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Speaker 4: Yes, bro? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine how even icons, even though they work

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Speaker 4: I've been one of the compos I was a little kid,

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Speaker 3: So you know what that means, right that Atlanta Hawks

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Speaker 3: We gotta keep bringing these Atlanta legends, yes, please, So

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Speaker 2: The Atlanta streets, like what part of the city I

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Speaker 2: know this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you know, it's all corporate,

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you, but I know what what what

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Speaker 4: Kujo Man?

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Speaker 1: I gotta give it up to the west Side Chapel Road, Man,

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Speaker 1: When they first called call it back, Uh, west Side

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Speaker 4: Team, Yes, sir, already already.

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Speaker 2: So what was the ATR music scene like back then?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, let me take it a little bit further, man,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Uh Kelo Sam and Sam shout out

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Speaker 3: So even before y'all got up on the radio, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like the Dungeon Family, you did you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying that that was a r I p to to Rico.

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Speaker 3: Like, we didn't have too many spots where we could

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Speaker 4: So we're talking about like a club.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that, just a regular spot, you know, man.

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Speaker 1: I got a five five nine man, five five nine,

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Speaker 1: five five nine man, the Velvet Room, Mojoe. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, man.

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Speaker 1: Like people listen to the music and people actually actually dancing, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean club be Losings. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 2: Because you for you for Chapel four.

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Speaker 3: What's the club right there by the by the corner

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Speaker 2: Used to have right before you get over the railroad track?

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Speaker 1: The thing was I still when I was staying on

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Speaker 1: I ain't no Green bron that was our life. Ain't

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Speaker 1: him at the dungeons, you know, because he would go

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Speaker 1: hell we at?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 1: So we don't come back to about four five six hours,

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Speaker 1: Dude come back with food and everything, and everybody like, Man,

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Speaker 1: where you being?

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Speaker 4: Where you being? So Lenix? Man?

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Speaker 1: So now Man, west Side was like that was like

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to miss way

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Speaker 1: of the Dungeon, Man, because that was our spot right there, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I mean spending night man, sleeping bags. You gotta worry

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Speaker 4: Man. That was a that was a haven for us. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Can you give us a real insight on what the

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you what the Dungeon did. Man.

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Speaker 1: It gave Atlanta. It gave Atlanta an identity. You feel

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because all they thought that we was

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Speaker 1: was you know, what I'm saying strip club music. You

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Speaker 4: To meet people like gilp Si Lo t Mo, these

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Speaker 4: Each point. You feel what I'm saying. Southwest Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm saying here, I'm coming over here from

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Speaker 1: and it was like music, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to give Atlanta that name. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: I guess it was just it was just some stuff

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Speaker 1: with that type of music. Because didn't nobody sit down

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Speaker 1: soul food or write a song like sound there. But nah,

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Speaker 1: this was just this was just in us, you feel

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And and it was awesome, man, because

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Speaker 1: Hank Aeron stayed across the street from the other Dungeon

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Speaker 1: doing our Soul Food album that that Curtis Mayfield stayed

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Speaker 4: You feel me? So you know what I'm saying, Man, Man,

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Speaker 4: it was Man.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for this music, man, you know, I

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Because we can get west side all day, always feel

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. And that's what music did

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Speaker 3: So when Dre said, man, the South got something to say.

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Speaker 2: Remember when when did he go up there and grab

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, they booing, Yeah they did, they booing.

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Speaker 3: Did like at a time, like people don't understand, like

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Speaker 3: everybody's accepted nowadays in this music right right right. I

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Speaker 3: oh y'all don't like what.

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Speaker 1: Man, we well, we was ready to fight everybody in there, bro.

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Speaker 1: I mean we was ready, man, I mean, man.

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Speaker 4: That was just so llegified.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad because the day I posted something on

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Speaker 1: I thought I was there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Then I seen all of us walk up on the

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, right on Drake, right on Big Yeah,

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Speaker 4: They was bullers.

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Speaker 1: But you know what New York was like their cousin

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Speaker 1: that every time you go off his house, he always

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Speaker 1: picking on you know what I'm saying to this time

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Speaker 1: you come up on that, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: You're getting one of your feeling. So New York gave

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Speaker 1: we came back. But it wasn't none of that. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't none of that, because we did the Apollo you

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Speaker 1: cool breeze, I mean outcasts now, And we got up

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Speaker 4: This jamming, bro. I mean, man, we got some songs.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. They don't know nothing about no rap.

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Speaker 4: Right to see Atlanta right.

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Speaker 4: My mama put me up on Goodie Mob. Oh man.

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Speaker 1: I used to ride and call my daddy he bumping

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So, but that being said, man, yeah, like my brother

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Speaker 2: I'm about to be thirty three, man.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, they just letting you know how long you've

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Speaker 1: You heard what we said, man, it was man, and

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Speaker 1: because they was who they was, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: And them guys was doing they damn thing.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I mean, bro, I had to hang with I had

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Speaker 2: But you know, music is what you call that?

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Speaker 4: What is? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Timeless?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm thirty three.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Understand y'all music until I got old enough, so it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you feel.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, I'm sixteen now

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Speaker 3: And mall way right right, and I'm like, man, I've

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Speaker 2: I'm been trapping.

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Speaker 1: Look, bro, we was like twenty something years old though

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Speaker 1: back then we was writing, right, it was like poetry,

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Speaker 4: Bro. I mean when you're talking about digging in the

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Speaker 1: These boys was going deep man, going into the seventies.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the late sixties pulling out stuff. Man,

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Speaker 4: You feel me?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta do it, just like anyone some

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Speaker 4: You, Oh, that's what he was talking about. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: Now you able to really hear you, able to get

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Speaker 4: How How how you sound.

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Speaker 3: Now I hear the word he Everything sounds even better

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Speaker 4: Like you said, music time, it's just sitting there waiting

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Speaker 2: It's waiting for you to catch up.

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Speaker 4: When it's time for you.

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Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate it because you know what, before we

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Speaker 3: get out of here, I gotta know what is your

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Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore?

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Speaker 2: Hip hop?

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Speaker 4: Whoa just hip hop? Period? Five? Mount Rushmore is five

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Speaker 2: How man on Mount Rum? See all the people that graduated.

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Speaker 2: I graduated, well, you know at did six months of college.

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Speaker 4: Ah, that's good.

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Speaker 2: That ain't say nothing about my.

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Speaker 4: Oh Maz's high school on day high.

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Speaker 2: School already nineteen ninety two. Man, baby, Yeah, you've been

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Speaker 2: doing this. Yes, it's really all about Longevy, it is

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Speaker 3: It ain't about Oh I did that in the ninety No,

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Speaker 2: Two, all the way to twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: But it's about making good decisions too, yes, sir, about

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Speaker 1: making good decision. But my mom rushmore. See, I grew

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Speaker 1: gotta put public Enemy in there because they came with

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Speaker 1: I got to say nWay man, because man, that.

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Speaker 4: Stuff that they was talking. Bro, I was scared to

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Speaker 1: I was like, boy, y'all y'all for real, right, y'all,

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Speaker 1: y'all shoot folk like that or that man ain't going

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Speaker 4: I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: They gotta control, Bro, And let me see, I gotta

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Speaker 1: give it to I gotta put I gotta put rock

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Speaker 1: him up there, man, rock him, are being rock him

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Speaker 4: Up in New York, Bro, because after he came out, folk.

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Speaker 1: Had they had to rush and go read a book

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta throw. I gotta throw rock saying

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Speaker 1: chante up in the rock, Roxy Rock saying shante Bro.

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Speaker 4: I mean she was a man. I had a crush on.

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Speaker 1: Her brother, because y'all all, y'all did everybody had a

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Speaker 4: But just to just to hear what she.

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Speaker 4: She was rapping like a woman. She won't she was

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that type of that type of stuff kind

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Speaker 4: And when I seen I forgot to put the fat

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Speaker 2: Man, you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Fat boys sores five on my five.

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Speaker 2: We'll call some more stones.

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Speaker 1: I did b yeah, man, So like I said, I

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Speaker 1: We want it. We want the crown to stay down here.

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Speaker 1: But want somebody get real good at what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: They may take over.

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Speaker 4: They may do the thing.

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Speaker 1: Man embrace, hey, you got to man, that's the one

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Speaker 1: Got to learn how to embrace the next man that's up.

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Speaker 4: You feel me. Can't hate on the next man if

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Speaker 4: he's good. We got all this, all this ducks in

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Speaker 3: Got to all right here we go. We got up

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Speaker 3: the speed around before we get back out here and

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Speaker 3: see hear ready, Here we go album You enjoy making the.

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Speaker 4: Most Oh man, uh, still standing, Bro?

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Speaker 2: Still standing? Okay, worst traffic in the letter, greater curve, Bro.

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Speaker 4: But they don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: They don't understand Here we go, sports car s u

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Speaker 3: V or pick up truck.

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Speaker 4: Man, I gotta do that pick up truck. Bro.

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Speaker 2: Got to have one pick up one food for the

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Speaker 2: rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, lamb chop.

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Speaker 2: Lamb chop.

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Speaker 3: Got hear it.

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Speaker 2: Easiest way to impression date.

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Speaker 4: Make be funny. You gotta have a sense of humor.

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Speaker 2: Gott don't be funny all night.

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Speaker 4: Make a laugh every now and then. Man, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: you got it.

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Speaker 2: You got it, got man, Hey, listen here man, Hawks

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Speaker 2: and friends. There you have it.

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Speaker 3: Brought to you another episode with an icon with a legend,

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Speaker 3: Man Good in mock Kujoe, you did